1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,240 I am very outset this morning and I state that I am truly sorry for all of this and for any part which I have played. 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,760 I am sorry for everything I did. Sorry. 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,540 And anything that has contributed to the debacle that we are dealing with today. 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,600 I would like to apologise to the committee that they have had to take this time to deal with this matter today. 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,680 Why did you not discuss your years with St Joseph's Bightstout movement? 6 00:00:24,500 --> 00:00:32,160 So, given the events of the last three weeks, there is a lot that I wish to say and there is a lot that I need to say. 7 00:00:32,160 --> 00:00:37,360 So please bear with me. My aim today is to help correct and clarify some very serious matters. 8 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:42,860 And I will be relying on my agent Noel Kelly here to go through the figures and provide greater detail. 9 00:00:42,860 --> 00:00:52,360 I would like everybody here today to understand that the figures and statements presented by ORTE over the last few weeks in relation to my remuneration have created a fog of confusion. 10 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:53,360 Fog. 11 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,440 A fog of confusion over what I was paid. 12 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:57,500 And when I was paid. 13 00:00:58,820 --> 00:00:59,700 And what I knew. 14 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:01,600 And when I knew it. 15 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,060 Full transparency and disclosure on ORTE's part. 16 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,160 I am sorry to say would simply have avoided so much of this. 17 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:09,020 You have had your mother. 18 00:01:09,020 --> 00:01:11,200 And I am here to do one thing and one thing only ladies and gentlemen. 19 00:01:11,380 --> 00:01:12,180 You are a liar. 20 00:01:12,180 --> 00:01:12,680 Committee members. 21 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,060 And that is to set the record straight and to call out some untruths. 22 00:01:16,580 --> 00:01:19,420 And it is my belief that there are seven material untruths that I would like to address. 23 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:20,340 And the first is as follows. 24 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:21,480 Jesus. 25 00:01:21,780 --> 00:01:24,480 This claim that I did not take a pay cut from ORTE in 2020. 26 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:25,320 This is not true. 27 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,880 I took a 20% pay cut from ORTE in my 20 to 20 to 2025 contract. 28 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,000 Simple as that. 29 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,920 I took a 20% pay cut from ORTE. 30 00:01:36,540 --> 00:01:44,320 I am obliged to do and present 205 radio shows and 38 as it was then live two hour late late shows under this contract. 31 00:01:44,420 --> 00:01:46,460 I am what is called an independent contractor. 32 00:01:47,260 --> 00:01:49,580 I get no pension or entitlements from ORTE. 33 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:50,500 That is the nature of it. 34 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,860 Under the terms of my contract I am allowed to do additional work outside of ORTE. 35 00:01:54,860 --> 00:01:56,160 That is also the nature of it. 36 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:04,760 And I stress that there is nothing morally, ethically or legally wrong with me or any independent contractor doing additional work for another client outside of ORTE. 37 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:15,660 But to be clear, I took a pay cut from ORTE of 20% in 2020 for each of the five years of my contract at a cost of 525,000 euro to me over the length of that contract. 38 00:02:16,060 --> 00:02:19,900 I will move on to my second untruth. 39 00:02:21,100 --> 00:02:24,880 The suggestion that my decision to retire from the late late show was prompted by this whole debacle. 40 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,120 This is not remotely true. 41 00:02:31,140 --> 00:02:37,280 I wasn't aware of any of this fiasco when I decided to retire from the late late show. 42 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,920 I made my initial decision to leave the late late show pretty much a year ago. 43 00:02:43,860 --> 00:02:45,060 It was very personal. 44 00:02:45,060 --> 00:02:48,580 It was made in the heart and in the soul. 45 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,160 Thanks very much there, Schultz, Jenny Lawler and Marty Morrissey's car. 46 00:02:55,420 --> 00:02:58,120 Conor Williams, thanks very much for starting the stream there. 47 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:03,300 But I don't appreciate the impression he was doing of me there as we started. 48 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,700 But thanks very much for loaning me your t-shirt that you were wearing as well, Conor. 49 00:03:07,780 --> 00:03:08,880 And you hammered your RTE. 50 00:03:09,380 --> 00:03:09,980 Here we go. 51 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,060 We've got some hot, shit hot revelations. 52 00:03:13,300 --> 00:03:14,560 I won't talk over it. 53 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:19,940 A lot of people in this country, as you know, were burnt out and exhausted after COVID, 54 00:03:20,020 --> 00:03:21,760 doing a lot more important jobs than I was doing. 55 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,460 But I'm just telling you from where I'm coming from. 56 00:03:23,780 --> 00:03:24,100 Exactly. 57 00:03:24,940 --> 00:03:27,160 So I turned it over in my mind over a few months. 58 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,980 But by the time I got to January, there was no turning over in my mind. 59 00:03:30,980 --> 00:03:31,900 I knew it was time to go. 60 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:33,200 I made the decision. 61 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:42,340 And just to make it abundantly clear, there is zero connection between my departure and this very raw situation of recent weeks. 62 00:03:42,340 --> 00:03:50,440 You are a liar. 63 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:50,780 Liar. 64 00:03:50,780 --> 00:03:55,820 And even then I had no inkling of the bombshell which was to come when RTE released their statement on June 22nd. 65 00:03:57,740 --> 00:04:01,800 The third untruth is that I was covertly or secretly overpaid by RTE. 66 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,680 This is not true. 67 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,260 I was not overpaid by RTE at any point. 68 00:04:07,580 --> 00:04:10,400 I fully accept I'm very, very well paid. 69 00:04:10,460 --> 00:04:11,240 I understand that. 70 00:04:11,700 --> 00:04:18,820 But I was fully paid in accordance with my contract, which my agent negotiated openly and honestly and in good faith. 71 00:04:19,460 --> 00:04:20,320 Stockton Rush. 72 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,400 Now there are RTEs under... 73 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:23,820 Thanks very much, Stockton Rush. 74 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:25,660 Which we challenged them on back in... 75 00:04:25,660 --> 00:04:26,760 Covert payments. 76 00:04:26,940 --> 00:04:34,160 There are indeed RTEs over declarations of which they actually paid me in 2020 and 2021. 77 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,960 This has caused justifiable anger among my colleagues. 78 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:40,500 I understand that. 79 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,620 And we're going to deal with all of that in the next few hours and indeed the next six hours or more. 80 00:04:45,780 --> 00:04:46,720 We'll stay for as long as it takes. 81 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:47,720 Oh. 82 00:04:48,380 --> 00:04:52,640 A few times RTEs in accurate declarations is an impression that I've been less than honest. 83 00:04:52,980 --> 00:04:53,720 This is not the case. 84 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,500 The fourth untruth is that I was aware that RTE were trying to conceal payments to me. 85 00:04:58,600 --> 00:04:59,840 This is not true. 86 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,180 I was not aware that RTE were concealing payments to me. 87 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:11,340 RTE acknowledged this in their statement of June 22nd, 2023, when they stated that Grant Thornton had made no findings against me. 88 00:05:12,540 --> 00:05:14,940 The fifth untruth, there was a secret... 89 00:05:14,940 --> 00:05:17,840 That last untruth is going. How are you getting on? Thanks very much. 90 00:05:17,940 --> 00:05:18,640 This is not true. 91 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,340 Celtic Tiger Knights in Grigashki. 92 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:23,280 It beggars belief. 93 00:05:23,940 --> 00:05:24,520 Think about it. 94 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,860 I had a separate commercial agreement with Renault. 95 00:05:28,340 --> 00:05:29,400 Renault were involved. 96 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:37,320 He was doing the Renault Roadshow. 97 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,600 The suggestion that was a secret makes no sense. 98 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:44,660 The sixth untruth. 99 00:05:45,340 --> 00:05:47,100 A lot of untruths going on here. 100 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,440 The RTE's underwriting of Renault's payment obligations was a secret. 101 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:50,940 This is not true. 102 00:05:51,700 --> 00:05:54,540 RTE's underwriting of Renault's payment obligations was not a secret. 103 00:05:54,940 --> 00:05:59,200 Mr. Cutty Knife and Celtic Tiger Knights, thank you very much. 104 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,340 RTE committed... 105 00:06:01,340 --> 00:06:02,580 And Stockton Rush. 106 00:06:02,580 --> 00:06:03,340 ...February 2020. 107 00:06:04,220 --> 00:06:09,460 To provide this guarantee in the early stages of contract negotiations around my 2020 to 25 contract. 108 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:12,980 This is unequivocally confirmed in an email date. 109 00:06:13,100 --> 00:06:15,800 Critical document 20th of February 2020. 110 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:17,680 From Brida O'Keefe. 111 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:19,620 Why did you not discuss... 112 00:06:19,620 --> 00:06:19,880 To my agent... 113 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:20,740 It was copied... 114 00:06:20,740 --> 00:06:22,840 To other members of the Executive Board... 115 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:23,920 The Director General... 116 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:23,920 The Director General... 117 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,420 The RTE solicitors offers... 118 00:06:25,420 --> 00:06:28,220 Everyone in RTE who needed to know... 119 00:06:28,220 --> 00:06:29,440 New. 120 00:06:30,620 --> 00:06:31,100 New. 121 00:06:31,500 --> 00:06:34,680 You'll find this on page 10 of the booklet of documents you have in front of you. 122 00:06:34,940 --> 00:06:35,800 Well, we fucked. 123 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:37,940 Higgy Schmars, thank you very much. 124 00:06:38,100 --> 00:06:39,220 And Shlippery Fates. 125 00:06:39,380 --> 00:06:40,960 And finally the seventh untruth. 126 00:06:41,380 --> 00:06:43,260 The seventh untruth, ladies and gentlemen. 127 00:06:45,780 --> 00:06:51,000 When they released the 2017, 18 and 19 earnings, as they did all in one day. 128 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,520 January 20th, 2021. 129 00:06:54,620 --> 00:06:56,460 This is a question I did not ask at the time. 130 00:06:56,580 --> 00:06:57,900 This is a question I should have asked. 131 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,880 I fully, fully accept that. 132 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,420 What did you ask? 133 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:02,620 You should have been asking what questions? 134 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:02,640 I will finally explain briefly. 135 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:03,860 And as clearly as humanly possible. 136 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:09,380 At the end of the 2015 to 20 contract, my agent advised me that I was entitled to... 137 00:07:09,380 --> 00:07:11,380 Phenomenal. 138 00:07:11,380 --> 00:07:13,380 Phenomenal. 139 00:07:13,380 --> 00:07:14,380 Phenomenal. 140 00:07:14,380 --> 00:07:18,380 Oh. 141 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,800 Fucking heavy, heavy revelations coming out here. 142 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,640 If you've just joined us, it's the Public Accounts Committee. 143 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:34,160 2023. 144 00:07:36,300 --> 00:07:36,820 Oh. 145 00:07:36,820 --> 00:07:41,580 Oh. 146 00:07:41,580 --> 00:07:41,900 Oh. 147 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,800 So let me reiterate, I actually waived my entitlement to this payment, 148 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,640 and I didn't receive one cent of it. 149 00:07:48,820 --> 00:07:49,400 I hid nothing. 150 00:07:49,580 --> 00:07:50,620 I had nothing to hide. 151 00:07:51,140 --> 00:07:53,740 Lots of fingernails slapping going on in the top there. 152 00:07:55,260 --> 00:07:57,800 There's a lot of fingernails tapping going on. 153 00:07:57,860 --> 00:07:58,380 He's kept it. 154 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:04,200 The rumor on the street is that Tuberty went and got a fucking manicure earlier on 155 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,060 and said to the woman doing the nails, 156 00:08:06,500 --> 00:08:08,460 I want a lacquer. 157 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,060 Have you got a lacquer for my nails? 158 00:08:11,180 --> 00:08:13,880 Because I'm going to be making some heavy, heavy points 159 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,120 on the fucking mahogany when I get in that committee room. 160 00:08:17,260 --> 00:08:20,300 All of the accounts in these years, 17, 18, 19, 161 00:08:20,460 --> 00:08:21,640 had accountancy reasons for... 162 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:27,160 Big Tripod, Schnuffles, Prig, Jukebox Connors, Lucas Radaby, 163 00:08:27,540 --> 00:08:29,940 Hot Judge, Higgy Smalls, Slippery Face, Cutty Knife. 164 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:30,580 Thank you very much. 165 00:08:30,700 --> 00:08:32,960 I'm particularly upset and disappointed about the decision 166 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,880 and framing of the RT statement of June 22nd, 167 00:08:36,180 --> 00:08:39,640 which inextricably linked my name to this whole fiasco. 168 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:40,020 No. 169 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,640 My name was mentioned 15 times in that statement. 170 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,180 Why did you not discuss your years with St. Joseph's Spiespout movement? 171 00:08:46,180 --> 00:08:48,500 And I was not consulted once. 172 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:56,080 I did not have the Grant Thornton report, which RT had, and which RT acknowledged made no findings of wrongdoing on my part. 173 00:08:58,380 --> 00:09:02,840 So far there's a lot of rejection. 174 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,840 He's putting the blame. 175 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,840 He's throwing RT under the bus. 176 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,080 Pretty much all of the damage was done. 177 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,380 But there's a lot of damage done already. 178 00:09:11,380 --> 00:09:12,700 Thumbs up. 179 00:09:12,700 --> 00:09:13,620 I declared my earnings. 180 00:09:13,620 --> 00:09:14,840 I paid every cent of tax. 181 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:15,840 Finger up. 182 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,340 My employer has acknowledged that. 183 00:09:17,340 --> 00:09:22,900 It has engaged in deceptive practices to pay me practices that were hidden from me. 184 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:24,840 Crazy bit of business. 185 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:25,840 The result, I'm nearly finished. 186 00:09:25,980 --> 00:09:27,160 Forgive me for overgoing. 187 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,620 The result of this is that I've become the face of a national scandal. 188 00:09:31,300 --> 00:09:34,040 I've been accused of being complicit, deceitful, and dishonest. 189 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,660 I think the statement of June the 22nd was very unhelpful in this regard. 190 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:39,900 Mr. Huxtable, thank you very much. 191 00:09:40,580 --> 00:09:42,340 I take full responsibility. 192 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:44,760 I can't say it enough. 193 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:54,840 I take full responsibility for not asking more questions back on January the 20th, 2021, when the figures for that 2017, 18, and 19 were released. 194 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,200 I take responsibility for that. 195 00:09:56,300 --> 00:09:56,680 I understand. 196 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,200 But that has become abundantly clear. 197 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:01,080 Abundant. 198 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:11,540 The RTE we love and the RTE we... 199 00:10:11,540 --> 00:10:14,340 The RTE that swindled us. 200 00:10:14,340 --> 00:10:18,480 Call my agent and ask for our help in establishing the full facts. 201 00:10:19,420 --> 00:10:26,500 Instead, they chose to hurriedly issue a deeply, deeply damaging statement on June 22nd. 202 00:10:26,620 --> 00:10:27,860 Truly madly deeply. 203 00:10:27,860 --> 00:10:30,740 I have nothing but respect. 204 00:10:30,740 --> 00:10:35,520 And admiration for that great number of decent, hardworking people in RTE. 205 00:10:35,680 --> 00:10:36,640 My colleagues, my friends. 206 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:42,200 And I'm very sorry for those whose lives have been made difficult with an incessant dripping of new revelations. 207 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,480 I'm thinking particularly in my radio show colleagues and friends. 208 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:52,660 Incessant dripping, ladies and gentlemen. Incessant dripping. 209 00:10:52,660 --> 00:10:54,660 You are a liar. 210 00:10:54,660 --> 00:11:01,380 Clara, Clara, thank you. 211 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:11,620 Gonna get through this. 212 00:11:11,620 --> 00:11:17,200 I put off the ground high of cards and letters from people who have written to Ryan Turbordy, Dublin. 213 00:11:18,380 --> 00:11:21,000 And I got them fair play to the post people in on post. 214 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:22,940 And I thank the Irish people for that. 215 00:11:23,340 --> 00:11:25,840 I am hopeful that they will see from my statement and my appearance here today 216 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,180 that I am determined to inform them of the truth and to demonstrate that I have nothing to hide. 217 00:11:29,580 --> 00:11:34,400 And I'm also hopeful that I will soon get back on air to do the job I love. 218 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:35,360 Game Boy. 219 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:36,380 Thank you all for your patience. 220 00:11:36,380 --> 00:11:38,940 Rome about a virtual environment with your avatar. 221 00:11:40,940 --> 00:11:42,900 And we've gone 15 minutes into it. 222 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:44,000 15 minutes. 223 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,260 It's normally five minutes for them. 224 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:51,180 So I would ask you to try and be brief, as brief as you can with it, please. 225 00:11:52,060 --> 00:11:54,280 But we do want to give you the opportunity because we're... 226 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,720 Why did you not mention your well-paid employment? 227 00:11:59,580 --> 00:12:00,800 With Noel Kelly. 228 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,220 Reno Ireland have just tipped. 229 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:05,340 Thanks very much to Reno. 230 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:05,840 Here we go. 231 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,120 It's the slug, man. 232 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:08,840 And to meet the House. 233 00:12:09,340 --> 00:12:10,580 Because we have huge respect for it. 234 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,360 And we haven't spoken to anybody else. 235 00:12:12,460 --> 00:12:13,880 And we just wanted to get the opportunity to put our flag on. 236 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,940 I've seen photographic evidence that this fella is jacking my swag. 237 00:12:19,100 --> 00:12:21,020 He was wearing my kind of style. 238 00:12:21,420 --> 00:12:25,140 Deputies, thank you for the opportunity to meet with you today. 239 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,060 Yeah, I've seen photographs that is nearly... 240 00:12:29,060 --> 00:12:33,080 It's like you're wearing his clothes or he's wearing your clothes, Sam. 241 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:36,100 And let's hear what he's got to say first. 242 00:12:36,100 --> 00:12:37,200 The fact that this fella has been... 243 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:37,260 The fact that this fella has been... 244 00:12:37,260 --> 00:12:39,260 The fact that this fella has been... 245 00:12:39,260 --> 00:12:39,260 The fact that this fella has been... 246 00:12:39,260 --> 00:12:40,360 The fact that this fella has been... 247 00:12:40,360 --> 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00:13:35,260 The fact that this fella has been... 304 00:13:35,260 --> 00:13:36,260 The fact that this fella has been... 305 00:13:36,260 --> 00:13:37,260 The fact that this fella has been... 306 00:13:37,260 --> 00:13:38,260 The fact that this fella has been... 307 00:13:38,260 --> 00:13:39,260 The fact that this fella has been... 308 00:13:39,260 --> 00:13:40,260 The fact that this fella has been... 309 00:13:40,260 --> 00:13:41,260 The fact that this fella has been... 310 00:13:41,260 --> 00:13:42,260 The fact that this fella has been... 311 00:13:42,260 --> 00:13:43,260 The fact that this fella has been... 312 00:13:43,260 --> 00:13:44,260 The fact that this fella has been... 313 00:13:44,260 --> 00:13:45,260 The fact that this fella has been... 314 00:13:45,260 --> 00:13:46,260 The fact that this fella has been... 315 00:13:46,260 --> 00:13:47,260 The fact that this fella has been... 316 00:13:47,260 --> 00:13:48,260 The fact that this fella has been... 317 00:13:48,260 --> 00:13:49,260 The fact that this fella has been... 318 00:13:49,260 --> 00:13:50,260 The fact that this fella has been... 319 00:13:50,260 --> 00:13:51,260 The fact that this fella has been... 320 00:13:51,260 --> 00:13:52,260 The fact that this fella has been... 321 00:13:52,260 --> 00:13:53,260 The fact that this fella has been... 322 00:13:53,260 --> 00:13:54,260 The fact that this fella has been... 323 00:13:54,260 --> 00:13:55,260 The fact that this fella has been... 324 00:13:55,260 --> 00:13:57,260 545 for the five years... 325 00:13:57,260 --> 00:13:58,260 He received those fees... 326 00:13:58,260 --> 00:13:59,260 What's the on about? 327 00:13:59,260 --> 00:14:00,260 Exactly. 328 00:14:00,260 --> 00:14:01,260 Nothing more... 329 00:14:01,260 --> 00:14:02,260 And nothing less. 330 00:14:02,260 --> 00:14:03,260 Alright. 331 00:14:03,260 --> 00:14:04,260 This is confirmed by the extracts... 332 00:14:04,260 --> 00:14:06,260 From Ryan's filed accounts... 333 00:14:06,260 --> 00:14:07,260 Company Tuttle Productions... 334 00:14:07,260 --> 00:14:09,260 Which we also include in the pack. 335 00:14:09,260 --> 00:14:11,260 We note that the accounts of Tuttle Productions... 336 00:14:11,260 --> 00:14:13,260 Run from January to December... 337 00:14:13,260 --> 00:14:16,260 Whereas RT's contract ran from September. 338 00:14:16,260 --> 00:14:17,260 In January 21... 339 00:14:17,260 --> 00:14:19,260 When RT made its incorrect declarations... 340 00:14:19,260 --> 00:14:21,260 They knew what they had paid Ryan. 341 00:14:21,260 --> 00:14:23,260 Indeed the Chief Financial Officer... 342 00:14:23,260 --> 00:14:24,260 E-mailed us on the 19th of December... 343 00:14:24,260 --> 00:14:25,260 Press! 344 00:14:25,260 --> 00:14:26,260 ...2019... 345 00:14:26,260 --> 00:14:27,260 Under pressure... 346 00:14:27,260 --> 00:14:28,260 Bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum... 347 00:14:28,260 --> 00:14:30,260 Bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum... 348 00:14:30,260 --> 00:14:31,260 ...relevant years... 349 00:14:31,260 --> 00:14:32,260 Correctly. 350 00:14:32,260 --> 00:14:33,260 But just over a year later... 351 00:14:33,260 --> 00:14:34,260 In January 2021... 352 00:14:34,260 --> 00:14:36,260 RT made false or incorrect declarations... 353 00:14:36,260 --> 00:14:37,260 About the same figures... 354 00:14:37,260 --> 00:14:40,260 In some respects... 355 00:14:40,260 --> 00:14:42,260 This was an accident waiting to happen... 356 00:14:42,260 --> 00:14:45,260 We'd previously asked RT to give us reasonable notice... 357 00:14:45,260 --> 00:14:46,260 When they planned to publish figures... 358 00:14:46,260 --> 00:14:48,260 My e-mail on the 16th of January... 359 00:14:48,260 --> 00:14:49,260 Yeah he's... 360 00:14:49,260 --> 00:14:50,260 He's been jacking my swag... 361 00:14:50,260 --> 00:14:51,260 He's not looking like me today... 362 00:14:51,260 --> 00:14:52,260 But I've seen some false... 363 00:14:52,260 --> 00:14:53,260 Photographs... 364 00:14:53,260 --> 00:14:54,260 Of him... 365 00:14:54,260 --> 00:14:56,260 And he was definitely trying... 366 00:14:56,260 --> 00:14:57,260 He was definitely... 367 00:14:57,260 --> 00:14:59,260 Trying to take my style away from me... 368 00:14:59,260 --> 00:15:01,260 I still don't understand... 369 00:15:01,260 --> 00:15:03,260 In March 2020... 370 00:15:03,260 --> 00:15:04,260 He looks a bit... 371 00:15:04,260 --> 00:15:05,260 He looks a bit better... 372 00:15:05,260 --> 00:15:06,260 He's taking the water on... 373 00:15:06,260 --> 00:15:07,260 He's taking the water... 374 00:15:07,260 --> 00:15:08,260 He's taking sips... 375 00:15:08,260 --> 00:15:11,260 Definitely the sign of a man feeling the stress... 376 00:15:11,260 --> 00:15:12,140 feeling the stress. 377 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,540 What we watching? Thank you very much. 378 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,300 Ario, Jorka, McGurk, and Vlembag, 379 00:15:17,420 --> 00:15:18,040 and 9ml Jill. 380 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,940 Tuba Lies, Harry Potter, Glasses, 381 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,780 Colum Meister. Thank you very much. 382 00:15:22,860 --> 00:15:25,380 He agreed that Ryan was not going to raise an invoice for this, 383 00:15:25,780 --> 00:15:27,660 and they wanted to agree how to explain it. 384 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:29,860 But in the draft which was sent to us, 385 00:15:30,340 --> 00:15:31,740 they proposed to change the payments 386 00:15:31,740 --> 00:15:33,220 which they made to Ryan already, 387 00:15:33,620 --> 00:15:35,180 effectively lowering them by 120,000 euros. 388 00:15:35,180 --> 00:15:37,780 I think I'd just seen a fella picking his nose there. 389 00:15:37,860 --> 00:15:39,540 They're not going to offset 120,000. 390 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,200 We had agreed not to ask for it in 2020. 391 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,520 I think I'd just seen a fella picking his nose there 392 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,460 on national television. 393 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,140 We argued against this, 394 00:15:50,780 --> 00:15:52,860 and they accepted our points at the time. 395 00:15:52,940 --> 00:15:56,380 This is clear from the document pages 14 to 16 of our pack. 396 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:57,840 For some reason, however, 397 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,600 Confused thinking returned, 398 00:16:01,020 --> 00:16:03,280 and they published again the wrong figures in January 2021, 399 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,280 effectively causing his reputation damage to Ryan the process. 400 00:16:06,660 --> 00:16:07,960 Huge reputational damage, sorry. 401 00:16:08,740 --> 00:16:10,320 One important point I should add. 402 00:16:10,980 --> 00:16:12,720 Just last month, on the 23rd of June, 403 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:13,920 RT published new figures. 404 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,320 Effectively, they restated figures for payments to Ryan 405 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,020 for 17, 18 and 19, 406 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,280 and added in declarations for figures paid to him in 2021. 407 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,520 Bizarrely, the figures they declare for both 20 and 21 are... 408 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:26,880 P.A.C. the musical, 409 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,340 20 Nights in the Gaiety this summer. 410 00:16:29,540 --> 00:16:37,880 Tupac Shakur. 411 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:42,880 Featuring a hologram of Tupac. 412 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,180 P.A.C. the musical. 413 00:16:46,780 --> 00:16:49,020 Let's turn to the Renault contract, which ran parallel to the... 414 00:16:49,020 --> 00:16:52,240 It's the Broadway show everybody's screaming about. 415 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:53,620 P.A.C. the musical. 416 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,740 Featuring a hologram of Tupac Shakur. 417 00:16:56,740 --> 00:16:58,260 ...December 2019, 418 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,580 from RT's then Chief Financial Officer, 419 00:17:00,740 --> 00:17:01,640 Miss Brida O'Keefe. 420 00:17:02,340 --> 00:17:04,780 This email sets out RT's starting position 421 00:17:04,780 --> 00:17:07,060 for negotiations on the 2020 contract. 422 00:17:08,340 --> 00:17:10,120 You will see that this email 423 00:17:10,120 --> 00:17:12,020 is where the idea of a commercial sponsorship 424 00:17:12,020 --> 00:17:12,880 for the third party 425 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,220 with an annual fee of 75,000 euros is first suggested. 426 00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:18,040 This comes from... 427 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,480 Featuring guest appearances 428 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,260 from Tupac Shakur the hologram 429 00:17:22,260 --> 00:17:23,580 and none other 430 00:17:23,580 --> 00:17:27,660 than Pac-Man the video game man 431 00:17:27,660 --> 00:17:31,680 and Mrs. Pac-Man as well. 432 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:32,720 ...this Renault contract. 433 00:17:33,300 --> 00:17:33,980 This is perhaps 434 00:17:33,980 --> 00:17:36,560 the most shocking revelation 435 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:37,920 of this morning. 436 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,440 Since this controversy began, 437 00:17:42,820 --> 00:17:45,120 RT tried to distance themselves from this decision. 438 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:46,780 Effectively, they have blamed 439 00:17:46,780 --> 00:17:49,160 the former Director General Dee Forbes 440 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,480 for doing a solo run 441 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,040 and giving a verbal commitment 442 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,500 to underwrite the contract 443 00:17:53,500 --> 00:17:54,920 on a Zoom call in May. 444 00:17:56,120 --> 00:17:57,920 RT executives had said 445 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,240 that there was a strong pushback... 446 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:01,040 Don't oppress with me all the time. 447 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,240 ...against the idea of underwriting the agreement. 448 00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:05,420 That is incorrect. 449 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,760 I refer you to page 10 of the pack. 450 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:08,880 The pack. 451 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:09,780 So at the time, 452 00:18:10,260 --> 00:18:11,080 Ms. Bredo Keefe 453 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,920 was Chief Financial Officer of RTE. 454 00:18:13,220 --> 00:18:14,020 Lot of waffle. 455 00:18:14,120 --> 00:18:16,100 This is going to go on for six hours, I hear. 456 00:18:16,620 --> 00:18:18,040 Slush puppy, thank you very much. 457 00:18:18,100 --> 00:18:20,120 Tub's COVID account, thank you very much. 458 00:18:20,460 --> 00:18:21,080 Say nothing. 459 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:21,840 Good lad. 460 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,380 Another member of the Executive Board, 461 00:18:24,380 --> 00:18:25,560 the then Director General, 462 00:18:25,900 --> 00:18:26,940 and RT's solicitor. 463 00:18:27,580 --> 00:18:28,420 In this email, 464 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,700 Ms. Bredo Keefe responds in red 465 00:18:30,700 --> 00:18:32,800 to various points which had been discussed. 466 00:18:33,140 --> 00:18:34,600 She states at the top of the email 467 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,300 that this is our final position. 468 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,440 The negotiations go back and forth, 469 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:40,020 back and forth. 470 00:18:40,120 --> 00:18:41,120 This is our final position 471 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:43,720 in respect of the new contract. 472 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:45,780 On the last paragraph, 473 00:18:46,460 --> 00:18:46,840 on this page... 474 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,640 I've just realized that he is still 475 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,760 being employed or still being paid, 476 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,520 so this is all on the public purse as well. 477 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:01,460 There was no secret. 478 00:19:03,140 --> 00:19:04,420 There is no secret. 479 00:19:05,140 --> 00:19:06,040 There was no secret. 480 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:07,860 To our surprise, 481 00:19:07,940 --> 00:19:09,840 Ms. O'Keefe told the committee last week... 482 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:14,640 Thank you very much, Biggie Schmalls. 483 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,560 And Yup the FGS, thank you very much. 484 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,000 And Ryan Pack Dyer, thank you very much. 485 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,640 Making exactly that offer a month earlier. 486 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:26,740 Don't you have a life? 487 00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:29,240 Last week, nobody from RT here, 488 00:19:29,500 --> 00:19:30,200 with Ms. O'Keefe, 489 00:19:30,300 --> 00:19:31,420 challenged her when she said that. 490 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,280 And we were surprised too, 491 00:19:35,100 --> 00:19:36,420 because on the 30th of June, 492 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:38,720 four days before she appeared 493 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,140 at the media committee, 494 00:19:40,460 --> 00:19:41,300 we wrote to RTE 495 00:19:41,300 --> 00:19:42,660 and highlighted the significance 496 00:19:42,660 --> 00:19:44,280 of Ms. O'Keefe's email. 497 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,420 Her email also cast a new light 498 00:19:47,420 --> 00:19:49,020 on the contribution of Adrian Lynch, 499 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:49,980 Deputy Director General, 500 00:19:50,060 --> 00:19:50,640 to this committee. 501 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,340 Mr Lynch told the committee 502 00:19:53,340 --> 00:19:55,500 that agreement was to give, 503 00:19:55,620 --> 00:19:56,100 underwrite, 504 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,220 the contract was given, 505 00:19:57,380 --> 00:19:57,720 verbally, 506 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:58,700 on a Zoom call 507 00:19:58,700 --> 00:20:00,280 with NK Management 508 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:01,300 on the 7th of May 509 00:20:01,300 --> 00:20:02,720 by the then Director General. 510 00:20:03,260 --> 00:20:04,180 And he described this 511 00:20:04,180 --> 00:20:05,520 as significant point 512 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,160 at the centre of this. 513 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,140 RTE had tried to portray 514 00:20:10,140 --> 00:20:11,660 the guarantee as the decision 515 00:20:11,660 --> 00:20:13,460 given late in the negotiations 516 00:20:13,460 --> 00:20:14,920 on a Zoom call by Dee Forbes 517 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:15,840 with the awareness 518 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,820 of the Executive Board. 519 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,060 Clearly, this is not correct. 520 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:21,800 The decision was taken early 521 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:22,300 by RTE 522 00:20:22,300 --> 00:20:23,000 and known widely 523 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,100 within the Executive Board 524 00:20:24,100 --> 00:20:24,620 and RTE. 525 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,400 So, let me move to the invoicing 526 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,800 arrangements for a Renault contract. 527 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:30,700 Our document pack shows 528 00:20:30,700 --> 00:20:32,420 that RTE did not just suggest 529 00:20:32,420 --> 00:20:33,220 the idea of the contract 530 00:20:33,220 --> 00:20:33,680 with Renault. 531 00:20:33,940 --> 00:20:35,720 It oversaw every development 532 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,260 but an implementation of same. 533 00:20:38,140 --> 00:20:38,900 We were happy with that. 534 00:20:39,060 --> 00:20:40,080 We knew Renault was a major, 535 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,140 major sponsor for RTE. 536 00:20:41,140 --> 00:20:41,660 Renault. 537 00:20:41,980 --> 00:20:42,920 So, RTE would be committed 538 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,120 to keeping them happy. 539 00:20:45,100 --> 00:20:46,100 We knew the contract for Renault 540 00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:46,980 was a separate contract 541 00:20:46,980 --> 00:20:47,880 from Ryan's independent 542 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:48,780 contractor services. 543 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,900 Ryan had for RTE 544 00:20:51,900 --> 00:20:53,340 for radio and TV work. 545 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:54,600 Renault. 546 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:55,140 We understood that 547 00:20:55,140 --> 00:20:55,980 Ryan would have to do 548 00:20:55,980 --> 00:20:57,300 extra work for Renault, 549 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:58,500 but that was no difference 550 00:20:58,500 --> 00:20:59,120 to the other work 551 00:20:59,120 --> 00:20:59,760 that Ryan would do 552 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:00,500 for the BBC 553 00:21:00,500 --> 00:21:02,380 or with his publishers, 554 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:02,860 etc. 555 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,100 This was just a separate 556 00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:05,340 commercial agreement. 557 00:21:06,260 --> 00:21:06,780 Ryan was agreeing 558 00:21:06,780 --> 00:21:07,960 to a substantial pay cut 559 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:08,460 from RTE 560 00:21:08,460 --> 00:21:09,160 and he was entitled 561 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:09,880 to seek other work 562 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:10,800 outside of RTE. 563 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:12,640 There was nothing secret 564 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:13,320 about this. 565 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,180 Nothing secret about this. 566 00:21:15,260 --> 00:21:15,820 Far from it, 567 00:21:15,980 --> 00:21:16,980 the contract required Ryan 568 00:21:16,980 --> 00:21:17,820 to do public appearances 569 00:21:17,820 --> 00:21:18,340 for Renault, 570 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:19,700 which they could seek 571 00:21:19,700 --> 00:21:21,140 and expect attention 572 00:21:21,140 --> 00:21:22,120 and indeed they did. 573 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,860 There was nothing secretive 574 00:21:24,860 --> 00:21:25,980 about Renault. 575 00:21:26,300 --> 00:21:27,660 The deal with Renault 576 00:21:27,660 --> 00:21:29,260 was all about Borge. 577 00:21:30,180 --> 00:21:30,780 Renault. 578 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:32,920 Renault. 579 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:35,400 Renault. 580 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:35,680 Renault. 581 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:58,420 Return of the pack. 582 00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:00,960 Return of the pack. 583 00:22:01,300 --> 00:22:02,260 Come on. 584 00:22:03,220 --> 00:22:04,900 You know I've grabbed your sack. 585 00:22:04,900 --> 00:22:06,440 Not really. 586 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:07,880 It never happened. 587 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:08,520 The address to be put 588 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,100 on the invoice. 589 00:22:09,260 --> 00:22:09,920 The VAT reference 590 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,100 to be included 591 00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:11,960 in the invoice 592 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,180 and it instructs us 593 00:22:13,180 --> 00:22:14,720 not to put any person's name on it. 594 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:16,820 This email also gave us 595 00:22:16,820 --> 00:22:17,620 general insurance 596 00:22:17,620 --> 00:22:18,740 from a colleague 597 00:22:18,740 --> 00:22:19,780 from a series that said 598 00:22:19,780 --> 00:22:21,460 if he meaning... 599 00:22:21,460 --> 00:22:22,500 A shout out to Jimmy 600 00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:23,340 and Adam, 601 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:24,800 the SPS crew 602 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:25,680 grinding it out. 603 00:22:25,820 --> 00:22:27,060 I hope you're getting on well, lads. 604 00:22:27,460 --> 00:22:28,720 And Renault Tuberty, 605 00:22:28,900 --> 00:22:29,840 thank you very much as well. 606 00:22:29,900 --> 00:22:31,840 And it's a well-paid job. 607 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,880 Quasi-quarantine conspiracy 608 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,120 and Frankie fucking Schoen. 609 00:22:36,260 --> 00:22:37,120 Thank you very much. 610 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,240 I drove you in a dream. 611 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,780 I know well who you car. 612 00:22:41,140 --> 00:22:42,180 Thank you very much. 613 00:22:42,860 --> 00:22:44,300 that was acting on behalf of RTE. 614 00:22:44,900 --> 00:22:45,520 We had no idea 615 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,600 they might be making payments 616 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,800 to us on behalf of RTE 617 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:49,620 or that the payments 618 00:22:49,620 --> 00:22:50,340 were linked to RTE 619 00:22:50,340 --> 00:22:51,780 underwriting the Renault contract. 620 00:22:52,660 --> 00:22:53,100 Renault. 621 00:22:53,300 --> 00:22:54,100 Never said that to us. 622 00:22:54,660 --> 00:22:55,220 Renault. 623 00:22:55,980 --> 00:22:57,600 And Renault never said that to us. 624 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,480 We simply followed instructions 625 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:00,020 we were given 626 00:23:00,020 --> 00:23:01,920 as we had with the first invoice. 627 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:03,520 You will see a copy 628 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:04,840 of the two invoices raised 629 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,360 in the name of us 630 00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:07,580 that's been sent by email 631 00:23:07,580 --> 00:23:08,440 from us to RTE 632 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,460 in the pack pages 26, 27. 633 00:23:11,980 --> 00:23:12,680 People have asked us 634 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:13,220 why you went along 635 00:23:13,220 --> 00:23:13,540 with those instructions. 636 00:23:13,540 --> 00:23:14,040 I think Alan, 637 00:23:14,260 --> 00:23:15,460 just want to say 638 00:23:15,460 --> 00:23:16,480 thanks very much everybody 639 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,220 for tuning in. 640 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:18,100 Hopefully, 641 00:23:18,300 --> 00:23:19,920 we get some answers 642 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,140 today. 643 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,040 Also, 644 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,420 I actually want to say 645 00:23:25,420 --> 00:23:27,160 thank you to Renault Harris 646 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,720 and Evan English, 647 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:29,280 the Irish, 648 00:23:29,380 --> 00:23:30,160 thank you very much 649 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,200 and Frankie Scales. 650 00:23:33,140 --> 00:23:33,620 So far, 651 00:23:33,860 --> 00:23:34,480 we've had 652 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,180 allegations 653 00:23:36,180 --> 00:23:38,580 of financial 654 00:23:38,580 --> 00:23:40,340 misdoing 655 00:23:40,340 --> 00:23:41,080 or wrongdoing 656 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,560 on behalf of RTE. 657 00:23:42,860 --> 00:23:44,760 It's getting deep. 658 00:23:47,940 --> 00:23:48,940 And I just want to say 659 00:23:48,940 --> 00:23:49,620 thanks very much 660 00:23:49,620 --> 00:23:50,740 to Larry Goodman's 661 00:23:50,740 --> 00:23:51,280 horse meat 662 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,380 and none other than 663 00:23:52,380 --> 00:23:54,600 Anaconda G 664 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,640 with the four tweezy 665 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,180 and the heezy. 666 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:56,940 Thanks very much 667 00:23:56,940 --> 00:23:57,600 for that as well. 668 00:24:00,540 --> 00:24:05,820 And it was a beautiful 669 00:24:05,820 --> 00:24:07,540 bit of waffle 670 00:24:07,540 --> 00:24:08,640 there from the man 671 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:09,200 himself, 672 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:09,800 Noel Kelly, 673 00:24:10,020 --> 00:24:11,360 who's the style jacker. 674 00:24:11,740 --> 00:24:12,900 Tried to jack my style. 675 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:14,600 And Anaconda G 676 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:15,740 with a lovely four tweezy 677 00:24:15,740 --> 00:24:16,640 coming in the house. 678 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:17,720 Lovely stuff. 679 00:24:19,060 --> 00:24:19,760 Sorry there, 680 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:20,060 Tom. 681 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,060 I was just, 682 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,040 when you were doing 683 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,100 your instant cream play 684 00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:23,300 there, 685 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:24,480 I was copying your voice. 686 00:24:24,540 --> 00:24:25,400 I'm sorry about that. 687 00:24:26,460 --> 00:24:26,660 Yeah, 688 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:27,200 well look, 689 00:24:27,380 --> 00:24:28,120 I've already, 690 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,100 I've had it up to here 691 00:24:29,100 --> 00:24:30,460 with people jacking the swag 692 00:24:30,460 --> 00:24:31,500 that Noel Kelly buck 693 00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:32,120 is one of them. 694 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:33,840 I don't need, 695 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:34,940 I don't need any cheek 696 00:24:34,940 --> 00:24:36,320 from you yourself as well. 697 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:37,480 That Ryan had just signed up 698 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:38,500 to new cuts 699 00:24:38,500 --> 00:24:41,340 in his 2020 contract 700 00:24:41,340 --> 00:24:43,060 of 525,000. 701 00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:43,840 Did he just say 702 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:44,820 Ryan had signed up 703 00:24:44,820 --> 00:24:45,680 to boot cuts? 704 00:24:45,900 --> 00:24:47,360 Of 120,000. 705 00:24:48,220 --> 00:24:49,300 Or new cuts? 706 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,040 For more cuts, 707 00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:51,380 given the size of those cuts. 708 00:24:51,700 --> 00:24:52,500 And to conclude, 709 00:24:52,660 --> 00:24:53,160 well, 710 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,060 given the size of the boot cuts 711 00:24:55,060 --> 00:24:57,420 that Noel Kelly was seen wearing, 712 00:24:57,660 --> 00:24:59,100 I wouldn't, 713 00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:00,180 I wouldn't really believe 714 00:25:00,180 --> 00:25:01,140 anything he's saying. 715 00:25:01,780 --> 00:25:02,880 I wouldn't believe a word 716 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:03,920 out of this lad's mouth. 717 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,460 But I would though, 718 00:25:05,540 --> 00:25:06,160 I would actually, 719 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,140 just on the record, 720 00:25:07,340 --> 00:25:08,200 I'd believe it all, 721 00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:09,480 just in case I get sued. 722 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:26,120 It's a hybrid skunk. 723 00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:29,440 RT is a hybrid organisation. 724 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,760 It blends all the euphoria 725 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,900 of a heavy sativa dominant hit 726 00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:37,400 with a beautiful, 727 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:38,360 beautiful, 728 00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:44,900 lie back and dream 729 00:25:44,900 --> 00:25:47,280 sort of Indica vibe as well 730 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:47,760 with, you know, 731 00:25:47,820 --> 00:25:48,640 with your nationwide 732 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,520 and your kind of, 733 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,180 kind of chillax programs 734 00:25:52,180 --> 00:25:52,780 like that. 735 00:25:52,860 --> 00:25:53,500 Your kind of 736 00:25:53,500 --> 00:25:55,460 home in the sun 737 00:25:55,460 --> 00:25:56,720 and how to buy, 738 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:57,900 how to buy a cheap house 739 00:25:57,900 --> 00:25:58,460 in Ireland. 740 00:25:58,620 --> 00:25:59,820 All the property shows 741 00:25:59,820 --> 00:26:00,320 that you get, 742 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:01,300 it's great to see 743 00:26:01,300 --> 00:26:02,240 all our money being put 744 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,120 towards that sort of stuff 745 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:03,520 as well 746 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,300 in the current climate 747 00:26:05,300 --> 00:26:06,260 when you can't even 748 00:26:06,260 --> 00:26:06,880 buy a home 749 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,120 or even rent a house. 750 00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:09,920 It's great to be teased 751 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,740 daily with those programs. 752 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:12,560 RT Slushman, 753 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:13,300 thank you very much. 754 00:26:13,620 --> 00:26:14,280 Steve Jennings, 755 00:26:14,420 --> 00:26:15,220 thank you very much. 756 00:26:15,380 --> 00:26:15,920 Smelly Kelly, 757 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:16,600 Rub's Belly, 758 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:17,520 thanks very much as well. 759 00:26:18,380 --> 00:26:18,720 Thank you. 760 00:26:20,540 --> 00:26:21,240 Just before, 761 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:22,080 thanks for those 762 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:22,660 opening statements, 763 00:26:22,820 --> 00:26:23,740 just before we move 764 00:26:23,740 --> 00:26:25,380 to the committee members, 765 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:26,920 just, 766 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,280 there's one issue, 767 00:26:28,460 --> 00:26:29,260 Mr. Trubber, 768 00:26:29,300 --> 00:26:30,320 that you might clarify for me. 769 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:32,400 The issue of the 770 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,660 75,000 payments, 771 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:34,800 obviously the invices 772 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,240 for that was what 773 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:36,920 brought this to light 774 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,160 in March when the 775 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:38,900 auditors found him. 776 00:26:39,620 --> 00:26:40,740 And when I first heard 777 00:26:40,740 --> 00:26:41,240 about this, 778 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:42,940 and I wanted to ask you 779 00:26:42,940 --> 00:26:43,540 this this morning, 780 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,300 just to set the scene 781 00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:45,880 for this meeting, 782 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:47,860 that those, 783 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,660 that 75,000 shortfall gap 784 00:26:50,660 --> 00:26:51,720 that had to be met up, 785 00:26:51,820 --> 00:26:52,500 call it what you like, 786 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:53,700 additional payment, 787 00:26:54,420 --> 00:26:55,500 the country was shut down. 788 00:26:57,260 --> 00:26:58,460 Thousands of my constituents 789 00:26:58,460 --> 00:27:00,080 and people around the country 790 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,280 were on 2 or 300 euros 791 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,000 was a weak pandemic payment. 792 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,060 And you and your agent, 793 00:27:05,660 --> 00:27:05,960 you know, 794 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:06,860 between you, 795 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,040 did you have any doubts 796 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,200 about the merits of that 797 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,940 or the credibility of looking, 798 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:11,720 you know, 799 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,500 to make up that 75,000 800 00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:15,260 at that particular point? 801 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,260 sensual piece of tub thing. 802 00:27:18,260 --> 00:27:19,080 Thank you very much. 803 00:27:19,420 --> 00:27:22,180 It's a sensual piece of tub thing. 804 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:24,160 Let's, 805 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,200 let's see if there's a good answer 806 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,220 to this question here. 807 00:27:27,300 --> 00:27:27,600 And we'll, 808 00:27:27,660 --> 00:27:29,480 we'll try and do a bit of Adam Curtis, 809 00:27:29,740 --> 00:27:32,520 burial sort of stuff to it as well. 810 00:27:32,780 --> 00:27:34,100 hopefully it won't ruin everything. 811 00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:35,240 And your own credibility. 812 00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:36,360 I appreciate the question 813 00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:37,560 and the kind words. 814 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,120 Short answers. 815 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,020 I'll keep them short. 816 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:39,380 I, 817 00:27:39,380 --> 00:27:39,680 I, 818 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,640 I think what I'm going to be saying 819 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,520 a lot today, 820 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,780 which is in relation to that, 821 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:45,880 is that, 822 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:46,540 is that, 823 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:47,280 my, 824 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,300 my agent and friend, 825 00:27:48,380 --> 00:27:48,820 Noel Kelly, 826 00:27:49,700 --> 00:27:52,680 it's his job to get the best deal 827 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,080 as he sees it for his client. 828 00:27:54,380 --> 00:27:55,180 On your instructions, 829 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:55,820 Mr. Torboli. 830 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:56,100 Well, 831 00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:56,720 you could say that, 832 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:56,900 yeah, 833 00:27:56,940 --> 00:27:57,240 of course. 834 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:57,580 I mean, 835 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:58,080 he, 836 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,820 he would absolutely try and get them. 837 00:28:00,180 --> 00:28:00,420 Well, 838 00:28:00,420 --> 00:28:01,600 he considers to be the best deal. 839 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,280 Do you have any doubts 840 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,120 in those discussions, 841 00:28:03,260 --> 00:28:04,700 those discussions that you had between you, 842 00:28:05,140 --> 00:28:06,480 back in the earlier part of 2020? 843 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:06,780 I think, 844 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,960 I think it would be fair to say 845 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,540 that in terms of the, 846 00:28:11,540 --> 00:28:12,080 the, 847 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,320 the financial implications 848 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,180 of the commercial side of RG. 849 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,640 This is the story about a man 850 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,160 who will pay money by Renault. 851 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,780 Did you have doubts about the, 852 00:28:22,780 --> 00:28:24,360 the public optics of this 853 00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:26,500 and the possible reputation of damage 854 00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:28,460 of looking for that 75,000 855 00:28:28,460 --> 00:28:29,580 in those circumstances? 856 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,280 Yes or no? 857 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,580 And did you discuss that, 858 00:28:31,660 --> 00:28:32,300 the merits of that? 859 00:28:32,660 --> 00:28:33,440 That's all I want to know. 860 00:28:33,820 --> 00:28:35,800 I would say that I would always have doubts 861 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,020 about doing too much. 862 00:28:37,340 --> 00:28:38,800 And did you discuss that with your agent? 863 00:28:40,020 --> 00:28:40,700 Can, 864 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:41,800 could you feed us, 865 00:28:41,860 --> 00:28:42,600 in the chat please, 866 00:28:42,660 --> 00:28:43,820 could you feed us lines 867 00:28:43,820 --> 00:28:45,200 from fucking Adam Curtis 868 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:45,780 sort of stuff 869 00:28:45,780 --> 00:28:47,700 that will fit this particular thing? 870 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,700 I'll put the voice over on, 871 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,180 do the burial tune 872 00:28:51,180 --> 00:28:52,880 and try and do something with it live. 873 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:53,980 Thanks for, 874 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,660 it can be a collaborative effort then. 875 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:56,880 George Washington's ghost, 876 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:57,540 thank you very much. 877 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:57,920 I say, 878 00:28:58,300 --> 00:28:59,200 you do your job 879 00:28:59,200 --> 00:28:59,820 and I do mine 880 00:28:59,820 --> 00:29:00,720 and that's how it works. 881 00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:01,780 But you knew that, 882 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,720 you knew that this gap 883 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:03,340 had to be met up 884 00:29:03,340 --> 00:29:04,540 and this 75,000 885 00:29:04,540 --> 00:29:05,100 had to be 886 00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:07,140 magiced up somewhere or another. 887 00:29:08,140 --> 00:29:09,120 I trust in the process. 888 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:09,960 Yes. 889 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,020 So you're terrified 890 00:29:11,020 --> 00:29:11,780 that you've no doubts 891 00:29:11,780 --> 00:29:12,360 about the merits, 892 00:29:12,740 --> 00:29:13,340 the credibility 893 00:29:13,340 --> 00:29:15,640 or the possible reputational damage. 894 00:29:16,020 --> 00:29:16,760 That must be discussed. 895 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:17,720 That was not discussed. 896 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:18,380 Okay, thank you. 897 00:29:18,540 --> 00:29:18,820 Thank you. 898 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:19,660 Deputy Imelda Munster, 899 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:20,520 15 minutes. 900 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,960 Good morning to our guests. 901 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:24,460 Ah, fuck it. 902 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:25,540 Fuck it. 903 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,280 I just want to start off 904 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,060 with the tripartite agreement, 905 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:29,700 Mr. Kelly. 906 00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:32,060 I fucked it up. 907 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:33,300 I fucked it up. 908 00:29:33,340 --> 00:29:34,460 But there was some good lines there. 909 00:29:34,540 --> 00:29:34,800 Wait a sec. 910 00:29:35,420 --> 00:29:36,540 No, I'm going to go for it again. 911 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:37,240 I'll go for it again. 912 00:29:37,420 --> 00:29:38,080 Tell us briefly, 913 00:29:38,180 --> 00:29:39,600 how did that actually come about? 914 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,440 What was the reason for it? 915 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,200 I'll just refer to some of my notes 916 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:44,680 if you don't mind. 917 00:29:47,660 --> 00:29:48,540 How it came about, 918 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,400 it was an RTE initiative. 919 00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:51,440 RTE, 920 00:29:52,020 --> 00:29:53,040 Renault's obviously. 921 00:29:53,260 --> 00:29:53,960 Yeah, okay. 922 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,060 Sorry, just for a second. 923 00:29:55,140 --> 00:29:56,200 It was an RTE initiative, 924 00:29:56,300 --> 00:29:57,760 but it had to stem from somewhere. 925 00:29:57,860 --> 00:30:00,400 You said in your opening statement 926 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,540 that Ryan was agreeing 927 00:30:02,540 --> 00:30:04,700 to a substantial pay cut from RTE. 928 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:05,960 So was it, 929 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,240 did it come about on the basis 930 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,180 of you negotiating with RTE? 931 00:30:11,540 --> 00:30:11,760 No, no. 932 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,280 Right, so how did it come about? 933 00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:13,780 It had no relation. 934 00:30:15,180 --> 00:30:17,860 Ryan's contract is for 205 radio shows 935 00:30:17,860 --> 00:30:21,580 and it's for 38 tour TV shows. 936 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,960 This was a totally separate agreement. 937 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,500 When it came about, 938 00:30:26,660 --> 00:30:28,840 Renault and RTE wanted Ryan 939 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,920 to do more work around the sponsorship. 940 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,480 This is the story about a man 941 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,380 who was paid money by Renault. 942 00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:39,060 We live in a time when all elites, 943 00:30:39,220 --> 00:30:40,540 whether on the left or the right, 944 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,340 believe in rigid rules that say 945 00:30:42,340 --> 00:30:43,560 there is no alternative 946 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,080 to the present political and economic system. 947 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,760 The sponsor wanted us to do activity to banish the sponsorship around the dealers. 948 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,760 But why would RTE... 949 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:54,760 ...of their own back... 950 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:55,760 ...the servant of the Fed to Fed... 951 00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:01,760 ...who's job is to pull back and tell dramatic stories that bring power to focus, find it impossible 952 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,760 because things like economic theory are both incomprehensible and, above all, boring. 953 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:13,760 Why would RTE, and who in RTE, came to you and said, "Listen, we want to look after Ryan, we want to sell a separate base deal." 954 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,760 This was a new kind of deal. 955 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,760 A Renault car, Renault Clio based deal. 956 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,760 You did not initiate that in any shape... 957 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:30,760 The spectacle of TDs greedily grasping their opportunity to feel morality superior is frustrating. 958 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,760 Most of them are on the take, and never say no to a lovely pile of free money. 959 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:44,760 Under the contract, the proposed terms of the new contract, this came from... 960 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,760 ...Bred O'Keefe and was coming to other people as well. 961 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:49,760 So they wanted Ryan... 962 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,760 ...and Renault had wanted Ryan to do... 963 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:52,760 ...to go to the dealers... 964 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:53,760 ...to go to the dealers... 965 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,760 ...to go to the dealers... 966 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:55,760 ...to meet... 967 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:56,760 Papa Nicole, eh? 968 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:57,760 The relationship with the sponsors... 969 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,760 There's a lot of paper shuffling going on. There's a lot of... 970 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,760 ...looking for figures, but there's no answers coming in. 971 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,760 The relationship with RTE, and the relationship is... 972 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,760 It's probably the biggest sponsorship. 973 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:18,760 So RTE contacted you and said, "Listen, we're a little bit concerned. Ryan is taking a pay cut. We want to set up a separate deal." 974 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,760 This is nothing about pay cuts. 975 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:21,760 This is nothing about pay cuts. 976 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:22,760 This is nothing about pay cuts. 977 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,760 This is a separate... 978 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:30,760 ...McGax asks, "Is Tuberti's agent Tucker Suleiman from Dragon's Den?" 979 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,760 I haven't watched Dragon's Den in a while, but he does look dragon-esque. 980 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,760 It does look like he would throw wads of cash towards... 981 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,760 ...crazy ideas at the drop of a hat. 982 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:49,760 "We would also need a side letter agreement from RTE to guarantee and underwrite this fee for the duration of the contract... 983 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:58,760 ...and beyond into the next contract. So you sought a guarantee for a deal that you'd nothing really to do." 984 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,760 You've peddled your lives all over the world. 985 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:06,760 Why I was looking for a guarantee is quite simple. It was never for RTE to pay it. It was that if the sponsor changes... 986 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,760 It looks... 987 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,760 It looks as though Ryan's gonna just let him take the flack now. 988 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,760 So it will be a lot of him talking. I think Ryan said his piece. 989 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,760 And that's that. 990 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,760 ...that RTE would pay if the deal went belly up. 991 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:28,760 It was never for RTE to pay. The guarantee was around if another sponsor came in that they would have... 992 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:34,760 So again, the relationship is with RTE and the sponsor, not with us. So they'd have to talk to the sponsor and say... 993 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:42,760 "Do you want him... would you like him to do...?" The sponsor obviously wants to have the host perform different duties for them. 994 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,760 "So you didn't agree with RTE underwriting the deal?" 995 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,760 "It wasn't about underwriting... it was about..." 996 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,760 "I love women." "I'm mad about women." 997 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,760 "I'm mad about women." 998 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,760 "I've been..." 999 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,760 "No, the sponsor's still there." 1000 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:54,760 "No, the sponsor's still there." 1001 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,760 "No, Reynolds was still... I'm talking about the tripart, I'm talking about years two and three as well, right?" 1002 00:33:58,760 --> 00:33:59,760 "Yes." 1003 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:06,760 "Not only did RTE underwrite the Reynolds contract, but they also... there was an agreement there to underwrite the two." 1004 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:28,760 "So the consensus is he's doing okay so far. Mass side says he's doing okay. Seems to be fielding the questions okay. There's been no smoking gun, so to speak, as of yet. Nothing really has rocked us inside the Oireachtas, which is probably where the area is, the Oireachtas committee. Nothing has really rocked the boat so far. 1005 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:36,760 "Tuberty came out swinging, leveling accusations of tomfoolery at RTE." 1006 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:43,760 "Which is quite amazing, considering that he's probably, you know, he might even be back working there this week or next." 1007 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:48,760 "And she, in that email, in page 10 of the pack, was responding to your request." 1008 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,760 "I tell you, Renault, where are they in all of this?" 1009 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,760 "Do you know, when are we gonna get to hear from Renault?" 1010 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,760 "So, I want to hear from them and what they had to say about the situation." 1011 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:18,760 "There's one thing about, and you said that Ryan was agreeing to substantial pay cut and he was entitled to seek work elsewhere. And that's absolutely fine. Nobody has an issue with this. But the problem here is that the deal was underwritten at your request." 1012 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,760 "Thank you very much. I'm not real. Take your meds. Thank you very, very much." 1013 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,760 "At your request by the public purse." 1014 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:25,760 "No." 1015 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:26,760 "That's the, that's the problem here." 1016 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:27,760 "Okay." 1017 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:34,760 "The deal was underwritten at your request for the three years of the contract, and it was paid for by public monies." 1018 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:35,760 "That's the issue." 1019 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,760 "It was on the public purse." 1020 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,760 "It was on the public purse." 1021 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,760 "Because the relationship with the sponsor is with RTE, it's not with us." 1022 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,760 "Underwritten by who? RTE?" 1023 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:47,760 "Yeah." 1024 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,760 "Yeah, the public purse. Yeah." 1025 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,760 "But the, but the sponsor, it's actually about the sponsorship." 1026 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:52,760 "We, we, we..." 1027 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:53,760 "I just want, no, look, you..." 1028 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,760 "So, in relation, in relation to..." 1029 00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:01,760 "You requested to be underwritten by RTE, and that could only mean that RTE take the hit for it and they pony up." 1030 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,760 "I just want to move on, because time is up the essence." 1031 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:04,760 "No, but that will..." 1032 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:05,760 "Pony up." 1033 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,760 "Pony up, Kelly." 1034 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,760 "Giddy up, Kelly." 1035 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,760 "You're taking us for a ride." 1036 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:14,760 "You pony." 1037 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:15,760 "You're taking us for a ride." 1038 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:16,760 "You pony." 1039 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:21,760 "It was raised, er, should be raised, and there was an instruction not to put any..." 1040 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,760 "It's time to feed the pony, lads." 1041 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,760 "The jig is up." 1042 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,760 "The pony's in the shed." 1043 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,760 "And it needs to be fed." 1044 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,760 "No, I don't think I'm going to blame on that." 1045 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,760 "I mean, did you..." 1046 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,760 "I presume you'd agree that there was no consultancy fees." 1047 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,760 "That there was no consultancy done for 75,000 for yourself." 1048 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:41,760 "What?" 1049 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:42,760 "No, we didn't." 1050 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:43,760 "What?" 1051 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,760 "Act on, at all times, instructions from RTE." 1052 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,760 "And as I've said, RTE is a hundred year old organisation with..." 1053 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,760 "Your time, and your pony, is up." 1054 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,760 "It's time to give up the pony, Kelly." 1055 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,760 "You're a businessman, you're a negotiator, you look after your clients." 1056 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:06,760 "Is that your job?" 1057 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:07,760 "That's your job." 1058 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,760 "There's no issue with that whatsoever." 1059 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,760 "But you'd imagine when you were instructed not to put names on the invoices." 1060 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,760 "And we're not talking about 2.99 or 3.50, 3.50 cents." 1061 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,760 "We're talking about invoices for 75,000." 1062 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:27,760 "And you knowing that you had asked them to underwrite the agreement." 1063 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:32,760 "So, you had asked them that they underwrite, they confirmed that they were underwriting the agreement." 1064 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,760 "They were putting it through the barter account." 1065 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,760 "You were told not to put a name on it." 1066 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,760 "You knew exactly what it was for." 1067 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,760 "And you didn't flag that up." 1068 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:41,760 "I don't know why you're so upset with me." 1069 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,760 "And yet you say there was nothing secret about the deal." 1070 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:44,760 "There was nothing secret about the deal." 1071 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,760 "There was nothing secret. We simply acted under instructions from RTA." 1072 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,760 "Yeah, yeah. But you knew they were underwriting the deal." 1073 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,760 "And you knew that was the 75,000 payment that was due to Mr. Tuberty." 1074 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,760 "We simply acted under instructions from RTA." 1075 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:02,760 "That's, yeah, fair enough." 1076 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,760 "Crazy bit of business." 1077 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,760 "That was pony money." 1078 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,760 "We're talking absolute 350,000 euros worth of pony." 1079 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,760 "And that at some point you were informed." 1080 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,760 "Telling you, Tam, they might have made a fucking balance out of us." 1081 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,760 "But they'll never make a fucking pony out of me." 1082 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,760 "Who and when?" 1083 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:22,760 "That was me." 1084 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:29,760 "I'm not sure I understand what you mean, but they're taking the piece, the pony and the biscuit, these boys." 1085 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,760 "And that would have been from OTE's legal office." 1086 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,760 "Their legal office, which would have been who exactly?" 1087 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,760 "From somebody from OTE's legal office." 1088 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:42,760 "Sorry?" 1089 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:43,760 "Pffft." 1090 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:44,760 "26." 1091 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:45,760 "Haha." 1092 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:46,760 "26." 1093 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:47,760 "Yeah." 1094 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,760 "Oooh." 1095 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,760 "26 of May." 1096 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,760 "Heavy, heavy shuffling of papers." 1097 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:57,760 "Heavy shuffling." 1098 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:58,760 "Thank you." 1099 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,760 "Embarrassing. This is very, very embarrassing for these guys." 1100 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:02,760 "And that was the 26th of May 2023." 1101 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:14,760 "Okay. And so, RTE knew, Grant Thornton knew, you knew, did you tell your client about it?" 1102 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,500 yes we would have 1103 00:39:16,500 --> 00:39:18,740 informed our client of course but that was the first 1104 00:39:18,740 --> 00:39:20,200 that we had heard 1105 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,380 that was the 26th of May 1106 00:39:22,380 --> 00:39:24,740 I just want to come to 1107 00:39:24,740 --> 00:39:26,880 Mr Tuberty if I can please 1108 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,320 and there's just 1109 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,360 in 2019 1110 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,620 you might have seen this out in the public domain 1111 00:39:32,620 --> 00:39:34,760 recently that you were launching the 1112 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:35,720 St Vincent de Paul 1113 00:39:35,720 --> 00:39:38,760 Christmas appeal and when 1114 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,700 you were interviewed you were said that you were haunted 1115 00:39:40,700 --> 00:39:42,720 St Vincent de Pony more like 1116 00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:44,640 with the pony money 1117 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:45,280 they were making 1118 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,000 pony up the dough lads 1119 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,660 or to ease cost cutting measures gracefully and when it 1120 00:39:50,660 --> 00:39:52,700 comes to this sort of issue that's not something 1121 00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:54,760 you've ever been found wanting 1122 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,180 on but 1123 00:39:56,180 --> 00:39:59,360 these boys won't be found wanting alright 1124 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,540 there'll be no want from these boys 1125 00:40:01,540 --> 00:40:04,240 not after the fucking pony money that was shuffled 1126 00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:05,080 into the shed 1127 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,580 I wouldn't characterise that as a 1128 00:40:07,580 --> 00:40:09,580 pay cut being subsidised by any deal 1129 00:40:09,580 --> 00:40:10,280 I also 1130 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,560 with respect 1131 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,560 with respect to Deputy I would also 1132 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,280 urge you not to conflate 1133 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,160 somebody being well paid with somebody 1134 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,800 who might not have a conscience 1135 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,940 particularly with work that you know that you mentioned 1136 00:40:25,940 --> 00:40:27,520 St Vincent de Paul it's a charity I have 1137 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,420 enormous time for since I was a child 1138 00:40:29,420 --> 00:40:31,700 In fairness, I'm sure... Sorry, just one second. 1139 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,220 But please, but please, but please, Minister. 1140 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,580 Sorry, Minister. Sorry, Minister. 1141 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,800 Sorry, Minister. Minister. 1142 00:40:40,780 --> 00:40:43,580 Sorry, Minister. Minister, I have a pony. 1143 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,700 I have a pony. I have a pony. I have a pony. 1144 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,660 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 1145 00:40:50,860 --> 00:40:52,420 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 1146 00:40:52,980 --> 00:40:54,580 Sorry, Deputy. I appreciate that. 1147 00:40:54,580 --> 00:40:57,280 Deputy, Deputy, I have a Renault pony. 1148 00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,640 Renault gave me a pony. 1149 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:00,640 OK? 1150 00:41:00,780 --> 00:41:03,960 You knew that this separate deal was being done 1151 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,420 and it would compensate for the pay cuts, 1152 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,340 but you also knew, and this is the thing, 1153 00:41:08,740 --> 00:41:14,760 that your agent had requested that RTE underwrite that agreement. 1154 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,500 So you knew... Sorry, I'll just get to the question. 1155 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,460 So you knew that that pay deal was going to make softer 1156 00:41:22,460 --> 00:41:25,980 or not even enhance any pay cut that had been taken, 1157 00:41:26,380 --> 00:41:26,900 but you also knew... 1158 00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:29,060 got some messages coming through there. 1159 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,160 Tubbs is trying to bully the situation 1160 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,240 and then realise how bad it looks. 1161 00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:35,360 Stopped. 1162 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,360 This was a separate contract... 1163 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,880 No, I'm not talking about the Renault. 1164 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:40,620 I'm talking about... 1165 00:41:40,620 --> 00:41:41,660 No, Kelly's coming in. 1166 00:41:41,660 --> 00:41:42,680 For separate services. 1167 00:41:43,340 --> 00:41:44,440 Kelly's coming in hot. 1168 00:41:44,540 --> 00:41:45,540 Kelly's coming in hot. 1169 00:41:45,580 --> 00:41:46,600 Mr Kelly, don't you have to brief this? 1170 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,300 This was a separate contract for separate services. 1171 00:41:49,420 --> 00:41:53,000 This had nothing to do with Ryan's new contract for radio and TV service. 1172 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,240 This was a separate contract. 1173 00:41:54,580 --> 00:41:55,800 That's what I'm talking about. 1174 00:41:56,300 --> 00:41:57,840 The tripartite deal... 1175 00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:58,900 Yeah. 1176 00:41:59,280 --> 00:41:59,840 Where the two... 1177 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,800 With RTE and Renault were sponsored. 1178 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,740 Yeah, where RTE had underwritten that agreement. 1179 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:05,440 Minister. 1180 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:06,700 And they were paying it. 1181 00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:08,720 And my question to Mr Tuberty was... 1182 00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:09,640 No, Renault were paying it. 1183 00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:09,960 Sorry? 1184 00:42:10,140 --> 00:42:10,840 Renault were paying it. 1185 00:42:11,020 --> 00:42:12,700 Renault, but RTE paid them. 1186 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:13,840 And then the two 75 payments... 1187 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,080 But if RTE paid them, that was an RTE thing. 1188 00:42:18,460 --> 00:42:19,480 Renault paid... 1189 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:20,120 Renault paid. 1190 00:42:20,540 --> 00:42:21,060 Yeah, but RTE... 1191 00:42:21,060 --> 00:42:22,760 And if RTE paid them, that was... 1192 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:22,760 That was... 1193 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:23,860 Yeah, that's fine. 1194 00:42:23,860 --> 00:42:24,540 That was... 1195 00:42:24,540 --> 00:42:25,260 We don't work for... 1196 00:42:25,260 --> 00:42:26,200 I don't work for RTE. 1197 00:42:26,460 --> 00:42:26,860 No, that's fine. 1198 00:42:26,860 --> 00:42:27,400 We don't work for RTE. 1199 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,420 So, I know you're trying to clarify. 1200 00:42:29,660 --> 00:42:29,980 Absolutely. 1201 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,100 I'm talking about the two... 1202 00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:34,180 We've just discussed it to you. 1203 00:42:34,260 --> 00:42:35,520 There's no way you don't know about it. 1204 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,420 The two 75,000 euro payments... 1205 00:42:38,420 --> 00:42:38,960 You are a liar. 1206 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,280 ...that were put to... 1207 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,900 ...that you were asked not to put a name on. 1208 00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:44,240 Don't upset with me all at mine. 1209 00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:45,020 Not to put any person's name on. 1210 00:42:45,220 --> 00:42:45,800 Again, again, again. 1211 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,960 They were underwritten, as you said, at your request. 1212 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,500 The question is, should the question be indirectly to Mr Tuberty? 1213 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:50,580 Mr Tuberty, yes. 1214 00:42:50,580 --> 00:42:51,680 Mr Kelly, please don't interrupt. 1215 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,040 The situation is... 1216 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,020 I think that the reason... 1217 00:42:54,020 --> 00:42:55,000 Sorry, Deputy, to clarify. 1218 00:42:55,140 --> 00:43:00,600 The reason Noel is coming in on this is because his knowledge of the nuts and bolts of these things is... 1219 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:01,500 Knowledge of the nuts? 1220 00:43:01,500 --> 00:43:04,980 So, I'm not being disreflected to you by not answering some of my money. 1221 00:43:04,980 --> 00:43:08,900 And likewise, but I'm asking you again in relation to that. 1222 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:10,800 When, you know, and... 1223 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:11,460 You heard it here. 1224 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,240 His knowledge of the nuts. 1225 00:43:14,020 --> 00:43:15,820 Protector of the Badgers, thank you very much. 1226 00:43:15,980 --> 00:43:17,880 Renault Safran V6. 1227 00:43:18,180 --> 00:43:20,240 KPMG Stealth Sniper, thank you very much. 1228 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:21,760 And I'm not really taking your meds. 1229 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:29,400 ...that tally with the fact that you knew that the two payments that were going through for 75,000, 1230 00:43:29,500 --> 00:43:31,640 the tripart agreement was struck, right? 1231 00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:31,880 Yes. 1232 00:43:32,260 --> 00:43:34,420 You knew that they were... 1233 00:43:34,420 --> 00:43:36,900 Apparently Noel Kelly has nut knowledge. 1234 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,560 This is hot off the press. 1235 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,900 From Ryan Tuberty, you heard it there. 1236 00:43:41,580 --> 00:43:43,360 His knowledge of it was of nuts. 1237 00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:45,380 Pure nut knowledge. 1238 00:43:45,460 --> 00:43:46,900 It was the licence fee holders that were paying... 1239 00:43:46,900 --> 00:43:50,340 Ivan saying he's saying he knows nothing. 1240 00:43:50,340 --> 00:43:54,000 There was a relationship with Renault that would sort that out. 1241 00:43:54,580 --> 00:43:56,540 No, the second and third one we're talking about. 1242 00:43:56,980 --> 00:43:57,620 I mean... 1243 00:43:57,620 --> 00:43:57,820 Yeah. 1244 00:43:58,240 --> 00:43:59,360 But am I not right in saying that? 1245 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:00,320 With all respect, don't... 1246 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,660 There seems to be a misunderstanding. 1247 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,000 No, no, there's no absolute... 1248 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,600 We've sat through three weeks of it, in all fairness, Mr. Tucker. 1249 00:44:05,660 --> 00:44:06,740 No, I appreciate that. 1250 00:44:06,740 --> 00:44:07,540 There's no misunderstanding from our... 1251 00:44:07,540 --> 00:44:08,740 Well, I'm misunderstanding, obviously. 1252 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:09,320 I apologise. 1253 00:44:09,540 --> 00:44:11,960 I'm talking about the 275... 1254 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,920 Look, if you prefer not to answer, that's fine. 1255 00:44:15,060 --> 00:44:16,380 If you don't want to answer... 1256 00:44:16,380 --> 00:44:17,620 No, I'm happy to answer. 1257 00:44:17,780 --> 00:44:20,840 I just feel that I was always under the impression 1258 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,760 that that money was from Renault, wasn't it? 1259 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:23,280 From Renault, yes. 1260 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,300 You've received 340... 1261 00:44:25,300 --> 00:44:27,820 Drive the new Renault tripartite, 1262 00:44:27,940 --> 00:44:30,900 starting at 75,000 euro. 1263 00:44:32,580 --> 00:44:35,060 Drive the new Renault tripartite tonight. 1264 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:36,500 I really dispute that. 1265 00:44:36,500 --> 00:44:38,340 OK, so we're going to move on... 1266 00:44:38,340 --> 00:44:42,840 Keep it moving, baby. 1267 00:44:43,020 --> 00:44:44,520 Keep it moving tonight. 1268 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,800 And thank you to the witnesses for attending. 1269 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,440 I believe he was awful close there to saying 1270 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:52,400 that money was just... 1271 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:52,920 I knew nothing. 1272 00:44:53,020 --> 00:44:54,160 That money was just resting. 1273 00:44:54,300 --> 00:44:56,060 It sounded like it was going down that road. 1274 00:44:56,420 --> 00:44:59,180 Thanks very much to Renault tripartite there for the tip. 1275 00:44:59,940 --> 00:45:01,220 We've got a situation, a-brewing. 1276 00:45:01,260 --> 00:45:01,780 Who's this guy? 1277 00:45:01,940 --> 00:45:03,740 Everything else that's open to us, 1278 00:45:03,740 --> 00:45:06,800 from Spotify to podcasts to everything else. 1279 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:07,160 Spotify. 1280 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,540 We're like most people who are big radio listeners in our house. 1281 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,900 You were in our kitchen five mornings a week. 1282 00:45:14,340 --> 00:45:14,740 What? 1283 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,280 Big, big shock revelations here. 1284 00:45:18,780 --> 00:45:22,340 Ryan Tuberty was in this man's kitchen five nights a week. 1285 00:45:22,420 --> 00:45:23,660 Five mornings a night. 1286 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,360 Bilbo Nagin, thanks for the tip. 1287 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,760 During COVID in particular and during the recessions. 1288 00:45:28,900 --> 00:45:29,780 We believed you. 1289 00:45:31,380 --> 00:45:35,120 And I think that's why we feel so shattered by this story. 1290 00:45:35,260 --> 00:45:37,760 Now, you've set out a very strong rebuttal here. 1291 00:45:38,460 --> 00:45:42,940 It's clear that RTE, when they appear before us again on Thursday, 1292 00:45:43,020 --> 00:45:46,340 are going to have a very serious set of questions that they have to answer. 1293 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:54,500 But the fact remains, public trust in our public broadcaster and in you, for right or for wrong, has been shattered. 1294 00:45:55,260 --> 00:45:57,820 And that has to be rebuilt. 1295 00:45:58,420 --> 00:46:00,640 And maybe today is the start and we'll see. 1296 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,560 I wanted to ask you just... 1297 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,560 We must rebuild. 1298 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:50,400 In the murky, in the murky world of media, where public influence converges with private interests, a troubling tale unfolds. Enter the enigmatic figure of a TV personality, whose role as a public broadcaster should embody the principles of impartiality and integrity. 1299 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:10,640 The truth about the influence of private money on those who are meant to serve the public. In this intrepid dance of power and profit, the lines between the public and private realms blur. 1300 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:22,640 A TV personality, entrusted with the responsibility of informing and educating the masses, succumbs to the allure of financial gain from private businesses. 1301 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:34,640 What was once a bastion of independent thought and critical discourse, now finds itself entangled in a dangerous liaison with the very forces it should be scrutinizing. 1302 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:42,640 Is that inclusive or exclusive of the 75,000 euro that you are receiving, either from Renault or... 1303 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,640 Thanks very much there to... Sorry, the mic is coming in hot there. Thanks to... 1304 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:53,640 To Bilbo Nagins for writing that and sending that to me there just a minute ago. Thank you very much. 1305 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,640 There's still more... There's still more of it. We can dip back into it in a minute. 1306 00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,640 That was... 1307 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,640 That's 20% refers to the payment direct from Ortea. 1308 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:08,640 Frankie Scolins, thank you very much. Oroctis Arrangements, thank you very much. CV and Kiki Stockhammer. 1309 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,640 Can we confirm that Conor Williams is in the Noel Kelly flock? 1310 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:17,640 Word on the street is he was taking huge bungs for positive TikToks. 1311 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:22,640 I can neither confirm nor deny. He did start this beginning of this stream. 1312 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,640 He gave me this t-shirt actually. 1313 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,640 He did get the stream up and running. I don't know what he was doing in my house. 1314 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:35,640 It was a strange scene. It was probably not unlike the scene of Ryan Toberty in that man's kitchen five mornings a night. 1315 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,640 I just have to contest that we regard this as separate. 1316 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:47,640 Now, the email over and back that we see in the contract negotiations are shocking to, I think, all of the members for a number of reasons. 1317 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,640 One being the number of people who are actually included in the EU. 1318 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,640 I think we might actually have Conor there. Conor, are you there, Conor? 1319 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,640 It also wants to add clearly to the fact that actually it's not separate. It is part of the Ortea contracting. 1320 00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:58,640 No, no, no, it's not part of the contracting. 1321 00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,640 Conor. 1322 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,640 I mean, if it was entirely separate, then why would Ortea... 1323 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:03,640 That's a good guy. 1324 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,640 Conor Williams here. 1325 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,640 ...is not that Ortea came to us with this? 1326 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:08,640 Like, at all times... 1327 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,640 Watching the pack, two packs, Shakur. 1328 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,640 So far, so tasty. 1329 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:43,640 I just want to say, Renault have nothing to do with any wrongdoing whatsoever. Great company, great cars, and I know a lot of good solid people from Renault are out Dublin as well. I think Bill Cullen introduced me, first introduced me to the Renault sphere back in 2009. And just unbelievable world of car manufacturing and car salesmanship there as well. 1330 00:49:43,640 --> 00:50:09,640 You're part in this. I want to ask for Kelly, no Kelly, knows what he's doing. No Kelly. And he is a great, great poniesmith and ponyshire. We know that the two problematic invoices were presented to Dee Forbes on the 8th of March. Renault knew nothing. Whenever he took his decision, he announced it on the 16th of March. Would you have Dee Forbes? 1331 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:15,640 Thank you very much, Conor. Hopefully, you're getting on well and we will see you soon at some stage. 1332 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:25,640 ...and this is like, it's, it's, there's so many untruths and so many stuff. I'm finding it was our stuff. I've only ever met Dee Forbes with her legal team and her lawyers... 1333 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,640 Said there's so many untruths and so many stuff, he just said. 1334 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:35,640 But Dee Forbes, I've never met Dee Forbes for lunch. I've never met her for dinner. I don't know Dee Forbes apart from when I meet her in the... 1335 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:45,640 I'm so sorry and it's, we're so time compressed here. Deputy, I think if you, if you have a question with regard to the departure of the Late Late Show, that was so deeply personal and so deeply from my heart. 1336 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:55,640 I would urge you to ask me about that because... I want to ask a very simple question and it sounds like you welcomed the opportunity. Was there any communication to either yourself, Mr. Tobey or to... 1337 00:50:55,640 --> 00:51:05,640 So many stuff. Cheekiest pony or chunkiest pony. Thank you very much, Conrad. Thank you very much, Erectus Committee and Frankie Scones. I hope you're getting on well there. 1338 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,640 The first indication was on the 23rd of May. 1339 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:14,640 Well, now I do want to contest that because on the 3rd of May, there is an over and back, a 3rd and the 5th of May... 1340 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,640 Sorry, sorry. Between Paul and Maloney and... 1341 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,640 ...and... Sorry. 1342 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:24,640 ...NK Management, where specific references made to the CMS invoices. 1343 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:25,640 Yes, yes, sorry. 1344 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,640 And I do want to ask about the decision to you, CMS. Thank you. 1345 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,640 So, I do want to contest that because there is certainly an over and back between... 1346 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,640 Sorry, on the 3rd of May... 1347 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:34,640 ...and Paul and Maloney. 1348 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:35,640 ...and Paul and Maloney. 1349 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:36,640 ...because there's just a lot of emails. 1350 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:41,640 On the 3rd of May, erm, was the first time that we were made aware of it. 1351 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,640 And then after that, we met with Grant Thornton to talk to them about it. 1352 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:45,640 Okay. 1353 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:52,640 So, in relation to Ryan stepping down or stepping back, Ryan had said it to me the previous year, and I was... 1354 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,640 I said to him, "Why? Why are you leaving?" 1355 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:55,640 Yeah. 1356 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:56,640 And he just said... 1357 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:57,640 So did the family. They thought I was mad. 1358 00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:58,640 Yeah. 1359 00:51:58,640 --> 00:51:59,640 Yeah. 1360 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:00,640 And to be honest with you... 1361 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,640 A very good friend of ours, Ryan... 1362 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,640 I said, "Ryan, why are you leaving? Stay in the lake, it's a brilliant... it's a great show." 1363 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,640 Is it, Buck? 1364 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:16,640 I knew after Covid, when you're playing to no audience, when you're... that it was a really difficult show to do. 1365 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,640 Mr Kelly, I'm so sorry to interrupt you. I don't want to come across this... 1366 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,640 But I have two minutes remaining and a list of questions as long as we are. 1367 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:29,640 Anyway, we've been aware of this for quite a while, and I was trying to get him to stay. 1368 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:41,640 Okay. I want to ask you about this... so this invoicing of Astus. And I do notice in the accounts that are returned at the end of the year that money transferred to total productions is... 1369 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,640 You have heard your mother. 1370 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,640 You can see it, essentially. 1371 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:55,640 In a normal run of a year, the amount of money derived from Noel Kelly management is quite small. In the years in question, it's large. You can see the 75,000 units. 1372 00:52:55,640 --> 00:53:06,640 You have, I think, four companies that which are registered out of unit B2 in the Calment Office Park and Balliament. So Noel Kelly management, Noel Kellage management nominees... 1373 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:12,640 Noel Kellage is after you. Loeb, thank you very much. And Fortnite Imperium, thank you. 1374 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,640 How was it CMS that decided to raise the invoice? 1375 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:21,640 Because I have two companies, which is NK management and CMS, and we were asked to send the invoice in... 1376 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:27,640 Kellage... Kellage... Kellage Cornflakes is after you. 1377 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:32,640 Well, it's... They would... They would... It's Noel Kelly management that appears at the end of the year. 1378 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:37,640 Sure, sure. But CMS is... We own CMS as well. It's a sister company. 1379 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,640 Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. 1380 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:44,640 Tony Aldante says Noel Kellage, the nut fellage. 1381 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,640 Sure, sure, sure. Noel Kellage... 1382 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,640 Noel Kellage... Skellage Michael. 1383 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,640 Again, we were directed by RTE. 1384 00:53:53,640 --> 00:54:00,640 With this direction from RTE, we've all received emails in saying, you know, just... 1385 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,640 Look at this lad, look. 1386 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,640 ...all you have to do is invoice a certain company in wherever and all of this money will be yours. 1387 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,640 This idea of... 1388 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,640 Captain Sack, thank you very much. Mamma Duck, Loeb, thank you very much. 1389 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,640 There's a way, boys! 1390 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:21,640 Um... You've no reason to suspect RTE are hiding payments, but they said, can you... 1391 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:28,640 Crazy bit of business. Crazy bit of payment hiding going on, maybe. Possibly. Maybe. We don't know yet, but no... 1392 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:35,640 We've just heard a bombshell revelation that Noel Kellage's name is actually Noel Kellage. 1393 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:36,640 It has its... 1394 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:37,640 Leng. 1395 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:38,640 1,800 employees. 1396 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:39,640 Free State Hall, thank you very much. 1397 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,640 Captain Sack and Leng, thank you very much. 1398 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,640 I mean, the context of this is... 1399 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,640 Sorry, you have been upset with the reporting of earnings beforehand. 1400 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,640 We were asked, we were asked under instruction to do this and that's what we did. 1401 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:57,640 We're hearing about payments. We're hearing about payments wrapped inside payments. 1402 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,640 That were posted inside a package. 1403 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,640 That were delivered to us, wrapped inside a puzzle payment. 1404 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,640 They were delivered in a Renault Clio. 1405 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,640 That was owned, that wasn't our Renault. 1406 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,640 That was owned by OnPost. 1407 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:15,640 OnPost came over, they had the Renault, but inside that there was a secret payment. 1408 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,640 Now, that payment was not discussed. 1409 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,640 It was agreed on. 1410 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,640 It was definitely taken for granted. 1411 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:27,640 What we do know, and what we can say, and what we're willing to tell you, 1412 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,640 is that it's a well-paid bit of business. 1413 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:36,640 My colleague there, Century Merchandising Services Limited is... 1414 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:37,640 Chinese whispers. 1415 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:43,640 No, no, but when I've done my company office searches, I found all the CMS companies have been struck off, 1416 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:50,640 so I'm a bit concerned about you using that when the company's office showed that all the CMS companies have been struck off the register. 1417 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:56,640 So it's trading under Century Merchandising Services Limited, not CMS. 1418 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:57,640 Mm-hmm. Okay. 1419 00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,640 CMS is just the... 1420 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:05,640 I know, but it's just from the clarification point of view that CMS, all the companies that are registered under that name, 1421 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,640 have been struck off for various reasons. Can I just ask a question in relation to the... 1422 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,640 Barter accounts. 1423 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:12,640 Between RTE... 1424 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:13,640 Barter. 1425 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:15,640 Barter. 1426 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:16,640 Barter. 1427 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:17,640 That's the agreement. 1428 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:18,640 That's the agreement. 1429 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:19,640 Barter. 1430 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:20,640 Yes. 1431 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,640 But the agreement then between... 1432 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:23,640 Which is... 1433 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:24,640 Barter. 1434 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:25,640 Is between... 1435 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:26,640 Barter. 1436 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:27,640 Barter. 1437 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:29,640 RTE and Ryan Chugger. 1438 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:29,640 The new Renault barter. 1439 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:30,640 Starting at €75,000. 1440 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:31,640 So the Renault contracts... 1441 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:32,640 So page five... 1442 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:33,640 I have a copy of the agreement here... 1443 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:34,640 Sure. 1444 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:35,640 And it shows... 1445 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:35,640 This is the agreement that was... 1446 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:36,640 That was prepared in relation to... 1447 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:37,640 Barter notes. 1448 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:38,640 Inside the pocket. 1449 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:39,640 Barter notes. 1450 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:40,640 Yes. 1451 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:41,640 Barter notes. 1452 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:42,640 Yes. 1453 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:43,640 It's not with total productions. 1454 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,640 So the agreement was written by RTE Legal. 1455 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,640 No, no, this is the one that I've got. 1456 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:48,640 I've got... 1457 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:49,640 I've got a copy of the agreement. 1458 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:50,640 I've got a copy of the agreement. 1459 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:51,640 I've got a copy of the agreement. 1460 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:52,640 I've got a copy of the agreement here. 1461 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:53,640 I've got a copy of the agreement here. 1462 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:54,640 I've got a copy of the agreement here. 1463 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:55,640 I've got a copy of the agreement here. 1464 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:56,640 And it shows... 1465 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:57,640 This is the agreement that was prepared in relation to... 1466 00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:58,640 Barter notes. 1467 00:56:58,640 --> 00:56:59,640 Inside the pocket. 1468 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:00,640 Barter notes. 1469 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,060 from BioT Legal. 1470 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,400 No, no, this is the one that I've got, 1471 00:57:04,660 --> 00:57:06,620 which is in... Oh, sorry, for the 1472 00:57:06,620 --> 00:57:08,620 services. Did you see the cheeky 1473 00:57:08,620 --> 00:57:10,500 bit of fucking... There was a note put 1474 00:57:10,500 --> 00:57:12,860 inside the dugout 1475 00:57:12,860 --> 00:57:13,180 there. 1476 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:16,780 Calvert, thank you 1477 00:57:16,780 --> 00:57:18,660 very much. Laleh luleh lo. And by 1478 00:57:18,660 --> 00:57:20,300 Pat, thank you very much. 1479 00:57:20,460 --> 00:57:22,140 A rogue payment just flew 1480 00:57:22,140 --> 00:57:23,800 into a man's pocket 1481 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,540 at pace, and we all seen it. 1482 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,300 That wasn't a note. 1483 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,120 That was a fucking IOU 1484 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:30,840 investment. 1485 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,360 That was a Renault fucking 1486 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:35,000 payslip. 1487 00:57:36,220 --> 00:57:38,380 Sure, well, Ryan Trubbley 1488 00:57:38,380 --> 00:57:39,320 being total. 1489 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,980 Okay, but can I just ask then, in relation to 1490 00:57:41,980 --> 00:57:44,200 75,000, does that go into 1491 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,500 the total production account? 1492 00:57:46,740 --> 00:57:48,500 Yes. Okay, because the invoice 1493 00:57:48,500 --> 00:57:50,180 then, when you... The invoice that was 1494 00:57:50,180 --> 00:57:52,280 produced... 1495 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:53,080 These lads! 1496 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,860 The invoice doesn't mention total 1497 00:57:57,860 --> 00:57:59,540 productions in the invoice that you 1498 00:57:59,540 --> 00:58:01,920 produced... Oh, panic! 1499 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,940 It doesn't mention total... Look at this, 1500 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,940 lads. Panic setting in. They've got their 1501 00:58:05,940 --> 00:58:07,740 fucking facts and figures wrong. They're looking 1502 00:58:07,740 --> 00:58:09,800 for numbers. They're scrambling around. 1503 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,280 Their papers are being shuffled. 1504 00:58:11,700 --> 00:58:13,680 So, we were directed again 1505 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,040 by RTA, RT Legal, to put down... 1506 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:17,500 Ryan Trubbley, we spoke partnership between 1507 00:58:17,500 --> 00:58:19,080 Renault and... But on a second, but if the... 1508 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,200 included personal... Sorry, but if the agreement... 1509 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,040 ...and program of activity. But if the agreement is 1510 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:24,280 ongoing with 1511 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,120 Total Productions, why then send 1512 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,940 out the invoice in a... Renault, 1513 00:58:29,020 --> 00:58:31,240 thank you very much. ...person's name rather than... 1514 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:32,740 The agreement 1515 00:58:32,740 --> 00:58:35,240 is with Renault 1516 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,200 or T.E. 1517 00:58:36,900 --> 00:58:39,020 The invoicing... And obviously 1518 00:58:39,020 --> 00:58:41,060 Ryan is the... Where's he going? Where's that 1519 00:58:41,060 --> 00:58:42,980 going then? We invoice on behalf of Ryan 1520 00:58:42,980 --> 00:58:44,620 and then... I know, but 1521 00:58:44,620 --> 00:58:47,040 from a legal point of view, what I'm saying to you is 1522 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,200 that there seems to be two different legal 1523 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,060 entities. One Total Productions, 1524 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:52,660 the other one... Fuckin' mine! 1525 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,480 No, there's... But D.E. Rimmons show that. 1526 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,360 So, no, that's the Renault and the 1527 00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,560 Ryan W invoice. There's only Total Productions 1528 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,300 which is Ryan... What's the story with this 1529 00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:02,560 fuckin' Total? Who's Total? 1530 00:59:03,020 --> 00:59:04,720 Total this, Total that, 1531 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,160 Totalbutt, Scuttlebutt, 1532 00:59:07,700 --> 00:59:08,620 Total Productions. 1533 00:59:08,620 --> 00:59:10,540 ...to an English company, 1534 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,440 a company based in the UK. 1535 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,160 Did you not raise... Waps in the grass! 1536 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:15,900 Thank you very much. 1537 00:59:15,900 --> 00:59:19,640 Because, obviously, if it's made out to a UK company, 1538 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:24,200 you're then not putting in for VAT or anything else, 1539 00:59:24,780 --> 00:59:26,580 yet the service was delivered in Ireland. 1540 00:59:27,580 --> 00:59:30,360 We, again, under instruction from RTE, 1541 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:31,440 we... 1542 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,200 What do you mean? In fairness, 1543 00:59:33,460 --> 00:59:35,800 you're a separate legal entity to RTE. 1544 00:59:36,140 --> 00:59:40,040 Could you not have asked further questions on that? 1545 00:59:40,380 --> 00:59:42,600 We sent the invoices into RTE. 1546 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:43,900 What's that noise there? Did you hear that? 1547 00:59:44,700 --> 00:59:47,260 Yeah, but when he were asked to send in the invoices, 1548 00:59:47,420 --> 00:59:48,980 he were asked to make out the invoices. 1549 00:59:49,940 --> 00:59:51,120 When, you know, 1550 00:59:51,180 --> 00:59:53,300 you were asked to make them out for a UK company, 1551 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,060 did it not raise concerns, 1552 00:59:55,060 --> 00:59:56,340 from your point of view, as regards, 1553 00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,860 you know, to make sure that she were not 1554 00:59:58,860 --> 01:00:00,720 doing anything which was, 1555 01:00:01,140 --> 01:00:03,000 you know, where the service, 1556 01:00:03,060 --> 01:00:04,700 in particular where the service was delivered 1557 01:00:04,700 --> 01:00:05,260 here in Ireland, 1558 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,320 the service wasn't delivered in the UK. 1559 01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:07,960 Sure. 1560 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,260 It was delivered to RTE, to Renault. 1561 01:00:10,500 --> 01:00:11,620 Renault for Sam. 1562 01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:12,340 Thank you very much. 1563 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:13,600 A dog and pony show. 1564 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:14,880 Who says, 1565 01:00:14,980 --> 01:00:17,020 with the €345,000, 1566 01:00:17,620 --> 01:00:19,540 I run a tripart agreement. 1567 01:00:19,540 --> 01:00:21,720 I have agreements in Renault, 1568 01:00:21,820 --> 01:00:22,780 in RTE, 1569 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:24,540 and in Total Productions. 1570 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:25,680 And let me tell you something. 1571 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:27,100 Try it sometime. 1572 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,040 You're going completely off the question, 1573 01:00:29,180 --> 01:00:29,260 David. 1574 01:00:29,700 --> 01:00:30,300 And look at this. 1575 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,160 David, you just put that question straight at the end, 1576 01:00:33,260 --> 01:00:34,320 because it's a very direct question. 1577 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,020 The direct question is, 1578 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:36,380 you know, 1579 01:00:36,500 --> 01:00:38,140 when the invoice was made out, 1580 01:00:38,220 --> 01:00:40,100 it was made out to a UK company. 1581 01:00:40,540 --> 01:00:41,580 What I'm saying is that, 1582 01:00:41,780 --> 01:00:43,340 the service was delivered in Ireland, 1583 01:00:43,700 --> 01:00:45,640 for Irish companies, 1584 01:00:45,740 --> 01:00:46,980 basically RTE and Renault, 1585 01:00:47,060 --> 01:00:47,960 here in Ireland. 1586 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,560 Did that not raise concerns, 1587 01:00:50,980 --> 01:00:51,260 which you, 1588 01:00:51,380 --> 01:00:52,740 from an accounting point of view, 1589 01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:53,300 yourselves, 1590 01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:55,140 that you were being asked now, 1591 01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:56,980 to bill a UK company? 1592 01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:58,380 You say in your statement, 1593 01:00:58,520 --> 01:00:59,240 that she knew nothing, 1594 01:00:59,500 --> 01:01:00,500 about the barter account. 1595 01:01:00,580 --> 01:01:02,140 She never dealt with a barter account before. 1596 01:01:02,500 --> 01:01:03,780 This is the first time dealing with it. 1597 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,480 Did you not raise questions, 1598 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:07,800 as to why you should make it out, 1599 01:01:07,860 --> 01:01:08,700 to a UK company? 1600 01:01:09,220 --> 01:01:09,360 Okay, 1601 01:01:09,460 --> 01:01:09,620 well, 1602 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:10,460 if I could just, 1603 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:11,860 in relation to that. 1604 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:13,420 Paul Gascoigne, 1605 01:01:13,540 --> 01:01:14,300 thank you very much. 1606 01:01:15,500 --> 01:01:16,380 Was there more reason, 1607 01:01:16,460 --> 01:01:17,400 for raising the question, 1608 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:18,800 if you didn't know about it? 1609 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:19,960 but we presumed, 1610 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:21,380 that they had a relationship with Renault. 1611 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,660 And we followed the instructions exactly, 1612 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:24,760 and subsequently, 1613 01:01:24,900 --> 01:01:26,080 did you raise that question, 1614 01:01:26,220 --> 01:01:26,760 when Renault, 1615 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:27,200 to know, 1616 01:01:27,660 --> 01:01:29,560 was this the reason why? 1617 01:01:29,940 --> 01:01:31,060 Was this the connection, 1618 01:01:31,540 --> 01:01:32,780 rather than send it in, 1619 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:33,400 remember, 1620 01:01:33,500 --> 01:01:33,920 to RTE, 1621 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:34,960 we'll give you the instructions, 1622 01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:35,560 not Renault. 1623 01:01:35,900 --> 01:01:36,240 Therefore, 1624 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:37,980 should you not have raised that question? 1625 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:39,240 Renault this, 1626 01:01:39,660 --> 01:01:40,740 Renault that. 1627 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:41,840 We didn't raise the question, 1628 01:01:41,900 --> 01:01:43,580 because it was under instruction from RTE. 1629 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:45,220 Okay, 1630 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:46,120 can I just ask, 1631 01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:47,360 in relation to, 1632 01:01:47,460 --> 01:01:47,740 um, 1633 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:48,660 Paige, 1634 01:01:48,900 --> 01:01:50,980 in the Grand Thornton report, 1635 01:01:51,500 --> 01:01:51,900 um, 1636 01:01:52,300 --> 01:01:52,600 at, 1637 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:53,340 at paragraph, 1638 01:01:53,660 --> 01:01:53,940 uh, 1639 01:01:53,940 --> 01:01:54,220 two, 1640 01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:54,460 two, 1641 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:54,880 three, 1642 01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:56,200 it raises the fact, 1643 01:01:56,260 --> 01:01:56,500 about, 1644 01:01:56,620 --> 01:01:56,840 that, 1645 01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:57,420 uh, 1646 01:01:57,420 --> 01:01:59,080 the Directorate General was not involved, 1647 01:01:59,180 --> 01:01:59,500 in dealing, 1648 01:01:59,640 --> 01:01:59,820 signing, 1649 01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:01,180 or implementation of this agreement, 1650 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,220 being the tripartite agreement. 1651 01:02:04,340 --> 01:02:05,220 Was there, 1652 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:06,880 because this seems to be, 1653 01:02:07,100 --> 01:02:07,600 we're being, 1654 01:02:07,860 --> 01:02:09,300 furnished certain names, 1655 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:10,740 but we're not being given all the names, 1656 01:02:10,780 --> 01:02:11,460 and I'm just wondering, 1657 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,280 who exactly was there, 1658 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,260 that knew about all of this agreement? 1659 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:18,100 Sorry, 1660 01:02:18,260 --> 01:02:18,580 so, 1661 01:02:19,460 --> 01:02:19,780 okay, 1662 01:02:19,860 --> 01:02:20,800 you were involved there, 1663 01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:21,520 but who, 1664 01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:22,860 from RTE, 1665 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:24,040 was there, 1666 01:02:24,380 --> 01:02:25,240 that was involved, 1667 01:02:25,380 --> 01:02:26,080 in this agreement? 1668 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:26,620 So, 1669 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:27,400 um, 1670 01:02:27,620 --> 01:02:28,140 from legal, 1671 01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:28,800 Trish Whelan, 1672 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:30,280 from finance, 1673 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:31,020 Brito Keefe, 1674 01:02:31,540 --> 01:02:31,760 see, 1675 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:32,280 uh, 1676 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:33,000 the CEO, 1677 01:02:33,340 --> 01:02:33,660 um, 1678 01:02:33,740 --> 01:02:35,560 and then, 1679 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:36,700 somebody on the exec. 1680 01:02:37,340 --> 01:02:38,540 I'm fucking really annoyed, 1681 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:39,540 because I can't find, 1682 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:40,820 I've seen a picture, 1683 01:02:40,940 --> 01:02:41,840 that somebody did, 1684 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,280 and I don't know where to find it, 1685 01:02:43,340 --> 01:02:43,740 but it's, 1686 01:02:43,740 --> 01:02:45,020 the picture of, 1687 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:45,360 uh, 1688 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:45,980 Noel Kelly, 1689 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:47,040 in the pinstripe suit, 1690 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:47,960 and Ryan Tuberley, 1691 01:02:48,020 --> 01:02:49,500 the one that everyone was looking at there, 1692 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:50,200 over the past week, 1693 01:02:50,700 --> 01:02:52,200 but someone had photoshopped, 1694 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,000 their heads around, 1695 01:02:54,220 --> 01:02:54,400 so, 1696 01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:54,720 uh, 1697 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:55,980 Tuberley's face, 1698 01:02:56,060 --> 01:02:56,560 was on, 1699 01:02:56,900 --> 01:02:57,940 Noel Kelly's head, 1700 01:02:58,300 --> 01:02:59,260 and Noel Kelly's face, 1701 01:02:59,300 --> 01:03:00,160 was on Tuberley's head, 1702 01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:01,000 and I, 1703 01:03:01,100 --> 01:03:01,380 I, 1704 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,320 I nearly pissed myself, 1705 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:04,300 this morning, 1706 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:05,560 looking at it, 1707 01:03:05,660 --> 01:03:06,500 it was the best, 1708 01:03:07,260 --> 01:03:08,800 way of waking up ever, 1709 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:09,300 you know, 1710 01:03:09,500 --> 01:03:10,920 obviously not pissing yourself, 1711 01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:11,500 but, uh, 1712 01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:11,700 I, 1713 01:03:11,700 --> 01:03:12,740 I laughed and laughed, 1714 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:13,560 about 15 minutes, 1715 01:03:13,660 --> 01:03:15,060 if anybody can find that, 1716 01:03:15,460 --> 01:03:16,480 because I, 1717 01:03:16,700 --> 01:03:17,880 I gotta hand it to you, 1718 01:03:17,940 --> 01:03:18,860 whoever made that, 1719 01:03:19,020 --> 01:03:20,120 it's hilarious stuff, 1720 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:21,440 if you can find, 1721 01:03:21,500 --> 01:03:22,960 if anyone knows where to find that, 1722 01:03:23,020 --> 01:03:23,780 and can send it to me, 1723 01:03:23,820 --> 01:03:24,660 because we could put it up, 1724 01:03:24,740 --> 01:03:24,880 and, 1725 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:25,120 uh, 1726 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:26,120 you'll all get a good laugh, 1727 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:26,600 out of that, 1728 01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:28,460 I can't find it now, 1729 01:03:28,900 --> 01:03:30,020 I wish I'd have saved it, 1730 01:03:30,220 --> 01:03:30,540 so, 1731 01:03:30,980 --> 01:03:31,220 and, 1732 01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:32,660 at the moment, 1733 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,240 there's a lot of paper rustling, 1734 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:36,020 a lot of panic setting in, 1735 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,000 the boys don't know what to answer, 1736 01:03:38,340 --> 01:03:39,320 or who to answer to, 1737 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:45,780 Ryan's having a stretch there, 1738 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:47,500 from Ortiz's office, 1739 01:03:47,700 --> 01:03:48,880 and was there anyone else there, 1740 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:49,820 um, 1741 01:03:50,100 --> 01:03:50,920 Trish Whelan, 1742 01:03:51,100 --> 01:03:52,200 from the solicitor's office as well, 1743 01:03:52,740 --> 01:03:53,020 okay, 1744 01:03:53,340 --> 01:03:53,640 all right, 1745 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:53,940 okay, 1746 01:03:54,540 --> 01:03:55,780 can I just move on there, 1747 01:03:55,780 --> 01:03:56,280 um, 1748 01:03:56,540 --> 01:03:56,860 to, 1749 01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:57,420 uh, 1750 01:03:57,540 --> 01:03:58,380 Ryan Troubledy yourself, 1751 01:03:58,680 --> 01:03:59,220 Ms Troubledy, 1752 01:03:59,380 --> 01:04:00,300 can I just ask, 1753 01:04:00,460 --> 01:04:01,480 you know this whole issue, 1754 01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,060 and my colleague raised it about, 1755 01:04:03,500 --> 01:04:03,720 you know, 1756 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:04,560 the level of, 1757 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,440 I'm just trying to find that picture guys, 1758 01:04:06,540 --> 01:04:06,600 I, 1759 01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:07,980 I don't know where it is, 1760 01:04:07,980 --> 01:04:08,660 2016, 1761 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,160 the income through the accounts, 1762 01:04:11,260 --> 01:04:12,500 was 660,000, 1763 01:04:12,660 --> 01:04:13,820 and I accept that there, 1764 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,520 has been a reduction, 1765 01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:17,420 in what you're receiving, 1766 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:17,700 but, 1767 01:04:18,220 --> 01:04:19,460 all of this controversy, 1768 01:04:19,900 --> 01:04:20,100 you know, 1769 01:04:20,140 --> 01:04:21,500 there's now a whole problem, 1770 01:04:21,860 --> 01:04:22,340 within, 1771 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:22,980 I suppose, 1772 01:04:23,060 --> 01:04:23,700 the entire country, 1773 01:04:23,780 --> 01:04:24,620 but also within RT, 1774 01:04:24,780 --> 01:04:25,040 about, 1775 01:04:25,500 --> 01:04:26,820 the whole issue of trust, 1776 01:04:26,940 --> 01:04:28,280 the whole issue of the ethics of this, 1777 01:04:28,780 --> 01:04:29,060 I mean, 1778 01:04:29,220 --> 01:04:30,800 looking at it now, 1779 01:04:31,180 --> 01:04:32,540 how do you feel, 1780 01:04:32,540 --> 01:04:34,140 that the trust can be built up, 1781 01:04:34,300 --> 01:04:34,720 back up, 1782 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,060 and the second thing is, 1783 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:36,660 about, 1784 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:37,780 your own, 1785 01:04:37,780 --> 01:04:39,540 It's gone, 1786 01:04:39,660 --> 01:04:40,700 I can't find it at all, 1787 01:04:40,700 --> 01:04:41,600 about going back, 1788 01:04:41,700 --> 01:04:42,520 working for RT, 1789 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:43,960 what's your own, 1790 01:04:44,300 --> 01:04:44,460 oh, 1791 01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:45,580 I don't have any doubt, 1792 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:46,600 I want to go back to work, 1793 01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:46,980 on the radio, 1794 01:04:47,180 --> 01:04:48,020 as soon as possible, 1795 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:49,480 I think that, 1796 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:50,200 I don't say that, 1797 01:04:50,300 --> 01:04:51,300 with any arrogance, 1798 01:04:51,540 --> 01:04:51,920 I just say, 1799 01:04:52,020 --> 01:04:53,920 I express desire, 1800 01:04:54,060 --> 01:04:54,560 it's what I do, 1801 01:04:54,940 --> 01:04:55,820 it's what I know, 1802 01:04:56,060 --> 01:05:00,740 And I want to get back to my team and to the listeners and do my job. 1803 01:05:00,740 --> 01:05:02,740 The whole issue in relation to trust... 1804 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:11,400 No, I understand that, Deputy, and I will say that I understand the amount of money we're talking about is eye-watering. 1805 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,980 I'm not a fool, I understand that. 1806 01:05:14,460 --> 01:05:19,320 But I haven't changed as a person over those years, despite the extraordinary bank policy. 1807 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,240 The question I'm asking you is how do you now rebuild that trust? 1808 01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,280 Well, a lot of the trust was taken from me. 1809 01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:29,400 But the question is how do we now rebuild the trust? 1810 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,040 First of all, the trust, if you go back into RT. 1811 01:05:32,540 --> 01:05:36,440 Secondly, the trust in RT itself. 1812 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:41,400 And certainly believing, as regards to building the trust, we put your own colleagues... 1813 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:46,820 I will just say I think that they're off to a good start this week with the new Director-General. 1814 01:05:47,060 --> 01:05:52,620 I think that hopefully people will see what I've said today and will hear what I'm saying today. 1815 01:05:52,700 --> 01:05:57,920 and they'll realise that a lot of what's happened over the last three weeks, I've been dragged into a mess not of my own making. 1816 01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:58,500 With your colleagues? 1817 01:05:58,500 --> 01:05:59,380 Deputy Devin. 1818 01:05:59,380 --> 01:06:02,380 My colleagues... The only thing I have for my colleagues is respect. 1819 01:06:02,380 --> 01:06:03,380 Deputy Devin. 1820 01:06:03,380 --> 01:06:05,100 Is that the best you can come up with? 1821 01:06:05,100 --> 01:06:08,420 Thank you very much to our witnesses for your attendance this morning. 1822 01:06:08,420 --> 01:06:08,560 Number two, this morning. 1823 01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:18,360 And can I say at the outset, you know, such is the issue surrounding this, that you're right about people stopping you. 1824 01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,420 Obviously, we're living in the same area. 1825 01:06:20,420 --> 01:06:30,260 And I know the high regard in which you're held and the respect people have for you, including kids who are wondering why the Toy Man is being in the news. 1826 01:06:30,260 --> 01:06:31,300 The Toy Man! 1827 01:06:31,980 --> 01:06:33,260 The Toy Man! 1828 01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:42,460 Obviously, I wonder, given the events of the last two weeks, we have engaged with RTE quite a number of times. 1829 01:06:43,020 --> 01:06:43,920 The Toy Man! 1830 01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:57,100 Has that been the reason why you wanted to come here voluntarily? Or was it actually more of what you heard from those engagements with RTE and what they've said, the various executives and board members? 1831 01:06:57,100 --> 01:07:04,640 Or has it been that everything else surrounded this whole issue? What's the main driver of you wanting to be here? 1832 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:08,480 I think that my name has been desperately sullied. 1833 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:12,880 You have been peddling live. I think my reputation has been sullied. I'm deeply upset. 1834 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:21,060 I'm hurt. I am in... I'm... It's hard to leave the house, if you really want me to be honest about it. 1835 01:07:21,060 --> 01:07:27,560 So, for what? I spent three weeks watching people telling stories. 1836 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:33,560 And I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm leaving a gap. Forgive me, it's a comma, not a full stop. 1837 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:41,740 But... I know... I'm not looking for sympathy now, or a violin. I'm simply saying to you. You asked me the question. 1838 01:07:41,740 --> 01:07:49,740 And you bring up, like, the kids. My relationship with the children of Ireland is so important to me. I know that sounds grandiose, but actually it is. 1839 01:07:49,740 --> 01:07:55,920 I want them to be happy and hopeful and proud to be Irish and read lots of books and just be wonderful young people. 1840 01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:57,920 You know, that doesn't change. 1841 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,920 You know? But what's happened in the last three weeks... 1842 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,100 It's like a frenzy. 1843 01:08:03,100 --> 01:08:03,100 It's like a frenzy. 1844 01:08:03,100 --> 01:08:15,720 Can I specifically ask you then, in terms of what you've heard, and maybe to Mr. Kelly as well on this, all of the evidence, and I presume you watched all of the evidence that's been given to both Oroctis committees over the last couple of weeks. 1845 01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:27,080 You know, even in Mr. Tuberty's statement, I think you refer to it as a fog of confusion. To me, it's a cloud of confusion at this point, because there's what you're saying... 1846 01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:28,700 It's a murky, murky fog. 1847 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,520 ...directly contradicts what this committee and others have... 1848 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:32,480 It's a murky fog. 1849 01:08:32,580 --> 01:08:37,480 ...over the last couple of weeks by certain individuals. And that's extremely worrying. 1850 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:41,500 Vincent Brown, thank you very much. Folliot and Paul Gascoigne, thank you. 1851 01:08:41,500 --> 01:08:43,080 Fact and truthful perspective. 1852 01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:43,960 The Toy Man. 1853 01:08:43,960 --> 01:09:12,120 Nobby Gobbler, thank you. 1854 01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,780 I doubt your decision, or when you make your decision. 1855 01:09:14,780 --> 01:09:15,260 Please don't. 1856 01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,100 But for clarity, in terms of the public... 1857 01:09:17,100 --> 01:09:17,640 Please don't. 1858 01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:21,700 Is there any correspondence predating kind of... 1859 01:09:21,700 --> 01:09:22,260 This scandal. 1860 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:23,180 April, May, yeah. 1861 01:09:23,260 --> 01:09:23,960 The Ortee scandal. 1862 01:09:23,980 --> 01:09:25,240 Between the two of you, just... 1863 01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:26,760 It's not that I want to publish... 1864 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:27,880 The Toy Man, thank you. 1865 01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,260 ...clear the record. Is there anything that has... 1866 01:09:30,260 --> 01:09:33,200 Text messages, emails, anything that's saying, look, this is coming up, or... 1867 01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:34,460 Sorry. 1868 01:09:34,460 --> 01:09:34,540 Sorry. 1869 01:09:35,140 --> 01:09:35,360 Definitely. 1870 01:09:36,540 --> 01:09:37,860 We asked to come here today. 1871 01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:38,380 I understand. 1872 01:09:38,380 --> 01:09:39,480 We asked to come here today. 1873 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:39,740 Yep. 1874 01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:40,780 We weren't invited. 1875 01:09:40,940 --> 01:09:41,360 We asked. 1876 01:09:41,660 --> 01:09:47,180 And we saw, over the last three weeks, I've never seen such horrendous, horrendous reporting. 1877 01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:53,980 And why, suddenly, the most trusted man in Ireland, Ryan Turbidee, it was, like, throw him under a bus. 1878 01:09:54,140 --> 01:09:54,300 What? 1879 01:09:54,440 --> 01:09:54,680 Why? 1880 01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:55,320 Why? 1881 01:09:55,640 --> 01:10:00,600 When that report came out, the first report came out, that was sent out from the board on the 27th. 1882 01:10:00,740 --> 01:10:01,620 Yeah, this is the statement. 1883 01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:02,460 Yeah, the statement. 1884 01:10:03,060 --> 01:10:05,820 We had to ask our lawyers, can we get a copy? 1885 01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,000 Because, again, we're on the back foot. 1886 01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:12,020 When RT said at the top 10 earners, again, we get 10 minutes. 1887 01:10:12,440 --> 01:10:15,560 And, again, I had to put in a request, can we please have the information? 1888 01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,380 And, again, so we got the statement. 1889 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:22,960 And when we got the statement, half an hour before, in doubt, we said, there's inaccuracies in this. 1890 01:10:23,620 --> 01:10:26,480 And Grand Fort has said, there's no wrongdoing on behalf of Ryan Turbidee and Old Kelly. 1891 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:27,160 Everything was... 1892 01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:28,100 Lads, lads, lads. 1893 01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:29,620 The authors put it in, and they didn't. 1894 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:30,600 Chill out, chill. 1895 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,060 Lads, lads, lads, lads, lads. 1896 01:10:32,620 --> 01:10:34,000 It was put in, right? 1897 01:10:34,340 --> 01:10:35,980 Stick it on the barter account. 1898 01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:36,940 Yeah? 1899 01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:38,120 Don't worry about it. 1900 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,280 Stick it on the fucking barter account. 1901 01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,600 Let's get out of here and go for a few jars, yeah? 1902 01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,220 So, I'm sorry. 1903 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:48,980 We have... 1904 01:10:48,980 --> 01:10:51,860 This has been the worst of times. 1905 01:10:52,100 --> 01:10:52,640 The worst of times. 1906 01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:53,660 No, I appreciate that. 1907 01:10:53,740 --> 01:10:54,900 And I know that's why you're here. 1908 01:10:55,700 --> 01:10:56,860 I'd like to add... 1909 01:10:56,860 --> 01:10:57,840 People have families. 1910 01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:00,400 People have families. 1911 01:11:00,660 --> 01:11:01,520 Come on, everyone. 1912 01:11:02,180 --> 01:11:02,720 I don't know what it means. 1913 01:11:03,100 --> 01:11:03,740 In the middle of something. 1914 01:11:03,900 --> 01:11:04,260 Get that. 1915 01:11:04,740 --> 01:11:06,120 I'm not doing my first radio. 1916 01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:07,180 I'm in a public eye. 1917 01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:08,500 I've never seen it. 1918 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,300 I don't know if any of you have been cancelled before, but let me tell you, you don't want 1919 01:11:12,300 --> 01:11:12,620 to be there. 1920 01:11:12,700 --> 01:11:14,440 So, just in terms... 1921 01:11:14,440 --> 01:11:14,840 Okay. 1922 01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:15,540 So, can I... 1923 01:11:15,540 --> 01:11:16,600 Well, we can talk about that later. 1924 01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,840 I ask you then, just in terms of the... 1925 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:23,880 I suppose the statements that have been made, both the physical statements and indeed the 1926 01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:24,280 oral statements... 1927 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:24,840 Simon... 1928 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:30,000 Simon O'Toole in the chat says, the Toy Master. 1929 01:11:30,060 --> 01:11:33,940 I don't know if I'm going to say about the secretly overpay... 1930 01:11:33,940 --> 01:11:38,220 Overpayment by RTE, which you said, which you challenged back in 2020. 1931 01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,200 Was that in writing, that challenge? 1932 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:40,620 It wasn't. 1933 01:11:40,700 --> 01:11:41,200 We have to... 1934 01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:41,720 We have to... 1935 01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:42,580 It's in your documents. 1936 01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:44,360 It's in your documents because... 1937 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:45,100 There's a lot of documents. 1938 01:11:45,100 --> 01:11:47,420 It's in your documents. 1939 01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,980 Check the fucking documents we gave you. 1940 01:11:50,940 --> 01:11:51,540 You have it in writing. 1941 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:52,340 That's all I wanted to... 1942 01:11:52,340 --> 01:11:55,180 We have it in writing and we went back and we actually asked that. 1943 01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:55,920 Okay. 1944 01:11:56,020 --> 01:12:01,500 Can I just also get a time frame then in terms of the negotiation of Mr. Tuberty's first 1945 01:12:01,500 --> 01:12:01,960 contract? 1946 01:12:02,660 --> 01:12:04,900 That started probably in 2014, was it? 1947 01:12:05,580 --> 01:12:05,840 Sorry. 1948 01:12:06,020 --> 01:12:10,500 The 15 contract would have started probably end of 14. 1949 01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:10,920 Yeah. 1950 01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:11,920 End of 14. 1951 01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:12,920 And then... 1952 01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:13,860 And that ran to 2020. 1953 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,680 And then there was fresh negotiations around that. 1954 01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:16,900 Okay. 1955 01:12:17,020 --> 01:12:23,200 Robert Downey Fluff, the Man Toy, Late Late Toy Man, Raoul Mote and Chris Mack. 1956 01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:23,980 Thank you very much. 1957 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:25,320 Probably late 19 or so. 1958 01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:26,260 So you can see where... 1959 01:12:26,260 --> 01:12:26,480 You can see where the confusion... 1960 01:12:26,480 --> 01:12:26,980 Look at the cup. 1961 01:12:28,020 --> 01:12:29,420 Look at the little cup he has. 1962 01:12:30,180 --> 01:12:32,860 It's the Toy Man with the cup, ladies and gentlemen. 1963 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,500 The Toy Man with the cup. 1964 01:12:35,940 --> 01:12:38,720 I don't have the fucking laugh button for the... 1965 01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:40,380 Forget it. 1966 01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,280 Confusion then or the cloud of... 1967 01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,320 One has a 20% pay cut and the other one has a... 1968 01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:45,980 Can you skip back? 1969 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:47,080 Oh, you can. 1970 01:12:47,440 --> 01:12:47,820 Oh, sure. 1971 01:12:47,980 --> 01:12:48,380 Sure. 1972 01:12:48,380 --> 01:12:48,440 Sure. 1973 01:12:48,820 --> 01:12:50,440 Well, the two of them people say... 1974 01:12:50,440 --> 01:12:51,220 Well, this is when... 1975 01:12:51,220 --> 01:12:53,180 Arises when people say... 1976 01:12:53,180 --> 01:12:56,040 Confusion then or... 1977 01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:57,720 Confusion then or... 1978 01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,720 The cloud of confusion... 1979 01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,280 I'll just... 1980 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:02,980 I'll just... 1981 01:13:02,980 --> 01:13:04,320 I'll give the... 1982 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,760 Who is it that sent me that... 1983 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,320 The text... 1984 01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,160 With the fucking script for the Adam Curtis thing. 1985 01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:14,000 Can't find it now. 1986 01:13:15,060 --> 01:13:16,620 Porrk, thank you very much there. 1987 01:13:16,740 --> 01:13:20,000 The Toy Man was in my kitchen every morning, says Porrk. 1988 01:13:20,060 --> 01:13:21,580 Chilling, chilling situation. 1989 01:13:21,780 --> 01:13:22,060 And... 1990 01:13:22,060 --> 01:13:24,780 If we just think about what that said... 1991 01:13:24,780 --> 01:13:26,420 That Porrk just said there. 1992 01:13:27,420 --> 01:13:28,980 And then we... 1993 01:13:28,980 --> 01:13:32,980 Show this image here of the Toy Man taking a sip from a little... 1994 01:13:33,660 --> 01:13:34,980 Small... 1995 01:13:34,980 --> 01:13:36,940 Cup. 1996 01:13:37,060 --> 01:13:37,520 Where is it? 1997 01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:38,180 Is it gone? 1998 01:13:42,180 --> 01:13:43,760 You did what you were told. 1999 01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:44,060 Yes. 2000 01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:46,400 The Aroctis player. 2001 01:13:46,540 --> 01:13:47,540 Get it sorted, lads. 2002 01:13:47,700 --> 01:13:48,760 I can't skip back. 2003 01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:49,300 It's... 2004 01:13:49,300 --> 01:13:49,680 It's... 2005 01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:50,660 It's great. 2006 01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:51,200 It's live. 2007 01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:51,760 We've got 720p. 2008 01:13:52,420 --> 01:13:52,760 But if... 2009 01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:54,380 Is anyone watching there in the Aroctis? 2010 01:13:55,020 --> 01:13:55,600 Anyone... 2011 01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:57,020 Anyone tuned into this stream? 2012 01:13:58,320 --> 01:13:59,740 You need to sort the player out. 2013 01:13:59,900 --> 01:14:01,300 It's better than the RT player. 2014 01:14:01,420 --> 01:14:02,040 I'll give you that. 2015 01:14:02,180 --> 01:14:03,220 But it's not... 2016 01:14:03,220 --> 01:14:04,840 It's not as good as YouTube. 2017 01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,040 Where is it? 2018 01:14:07,540 --> 01:14:09,960 I've worked personally with RT for 23 years. 2019 01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:12,680 I'd never have questions working with RT. 2020 01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:14,800 And did they ever ask you to invoice a company you never heard of? 2021 01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,240 We had never done a roadshow like this before. 2022 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:18,060 No, no, but... 2023 01:14:18,060 --> 01:14:19,220 So this is the first time. 2024 01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:20,300 The Renault... 2025 01:14:20,300 --> 01:14:20,540 I assumed. 2026 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:22,300 The Renault Roadshow. 2027 01:14:22,420 --> 01:14:22,820 The Renault. 2028 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:23,340 Okay. 2029 01:14:23,540 --> 01:14:26,600 And in terms of that Zoom call then, so the 7th of May, right? 2030 01:14:26,620 --> 01:14:28,600 With Dee Forbes and RT Lawers. 2031 01:14:28,940 --> 01:14:29,180 Okay. 2032 01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:31,660 And so were they the solicitors that you're talking about? 2033 01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:32,000 Yes. 2034 01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:32,920 The Trish Whelan and Criter... 2035 01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:38,460 So there was three representatives from RTE, two from the solicitor's office and the DG... 2036 01:14:38,460 --> 01:14:43,300 Sorry, there was one from the solicitor's office, the DG, and myself, and then a colleague 2037 01:14:43,300 --> 01:14:43,680 of mine. 2038 01:14:43,940 --> 01:14:44,620 A colleague of yours. 2039 01:14:44,620 --> 01:14:44,680 Yeah. 2040 01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:45,340 So it's on your side. 2041 01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:45,620 Okay. 2042 01:14:45,620 --> 01:14:47,640 And can I just ask then in terms of... 2043 01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:48,220 Noel Kellage. 2044 01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:50,520 Noel Kellage colleagues. 2045 01:14:51,100 --> 01:14:55,320 In terms of the toy show, the musical, because we've heard a lot about this and we've heard 2046 01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,100 there was a 2.2 million loss. 2047 01:14:57,220 --> 01:14:57,760 Now I know it's not... 2048 01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:58,980 2.2 million! 2049 01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,100 ...directly involved, but you're an agent obviously on behalf of Mr. Tuberty. 2050 01:15:02,500 --> 01:15:05,280 But Mr. Tuberty obviously worked with or works with RTE. 2051 01:15:05,660 --> 01:15:06,760 Can I please answer that one? 2052 01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:07,640 Well, we haven't got the best one. 2053 01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:08,880 Well, can I ask this... 2054 01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:09,880 He's dying... 2055 01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:11,960 Ryan's dying to answer certain questions. 2056 01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:12,600 From the... 2057 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:13,480 Toy... 2058 01:15:13,480 --> 01:15:15,760 From the late, late show... 2059 01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:17,520 The late, late toy man. 2060 01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:18,600 ...to the musical. 2061 01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:26,020 Be it production staff, other personnel from RTE directly working on Toy Show the musical. 2062 01:15:26,440 --> 01:15:27,440 The toy show... 2063 01:15:27,440 --> 01:15:27,900 The toy show... 2064 01:15:27,900 --> 01:15:28,060 Sorry. 2065 01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,600 Toy Show the musical was something I had nothing to do with. 2066 01:15:30,780 --> 01:15:31,840 So I think it's only... 2067 01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:32,360 Are you aware of anybody who was here? 2068 01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:37,240 I think it's only fair to say that you should put those questions to people in RTE about that. 2069 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,440 Because in fairness, like I... 2070 01:15:39,440 --> 01:15:40,100 That's not... 2071 01:15:40,100 --> 01:15:41,060 That was not my... 2072 01:15:41,060 --> 01:15:45,240 You're not aware of any staff that were seconded to from RTE to the Toy Show the musical? 2073 01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,640 No, there might have been people working in parallel, but seconded is probably too strong a word. 2074 01:15:48,940 --> 01:15:49,160 Okay. 2075 01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:49,560 Okay. 2076 01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:50,360 Okay. 2077 01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:58,440 And then, just in the last couple of seconds, can I just ask, probably Mr. Traverty, given that you're the face, as was said earlier, of this issue. 2078 01:15:58,580 --> 01:15:59,260 Yeah, that's... 2079 01:15:59,260 --> 01:15:59,900 That's been unfortunate. 2080 01:15:59,900 --> 01:16:06,700 This is the story about a musical about the late, late toy show, which cost 2.2 million euro. 2081 01:16:07,700 --> 01:16:08,640 The public plus. 2082 01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,720 What has been the biggest inaccuracy that you've heard? 2083 01:16:12,980 --> 01:16:17,320 It was sounded as one of the biggest new musical sensations to hit the country. 2084 01:16:18,060 --> 01:16:19,060 But this was a lie. 2085 01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:21,800 Thank you. 2086 01:16:22,140 --> 01:16:23,420 Deputy John Brady, 10 minutes. 2087 01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:39,360 I'd like to welcome our witnesses here this morning before the committee, and hopefully this meeting will go some way towards getting transparency, something that I think has been, you know, missing up until at this point. 2088 01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:44,240 I just want to establish a timeline, a clear timeline as to who knew what and when. 2089 01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:58,180 So, we know on March the 3rd, Mr. Traverty, you had stated when questioned about your ongoing position with the late, late show as to whether you will continue or not. 2090 01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:00,320 You said, I don't know where this is coming from. 2091 01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,640 The story comes up every year or two. 2092 01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:07,260 I am here talking to you today with a view to go straight back into the job I love. 2093 01:17:08,260 --> 01:17:10,660 Comedy sounds in the sound bank. 2094 01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:12,860 Maybe we've got some comedy sitcom sounds. 2095 01:17:12,860 --> 01:17:15,200 I can fill you in on all the details you want. 2096 01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:16,360 Okay, no, there's no need to know. 2097 01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:17,680 But that's accurate. 2098 01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:18,480 March the 3rd. 2099 01:17:18,660 --> 01:17:27,340 March the 7th, we know from questioning that Deloitte first contacted Richard Collins, the chief financial officer. 2100 01:17:27,480 --> 01:17:29,260 I think that has been established. 2101 01:17:29,460 --> 01:17:30,820 It's not disputed. 2102 01:17:31,300 --> 01:17:45,920 We know Mr. Collins then on March the 8th contacted Dee Forbes to get to the bottom as to the nature of those two invoices that we know have been issued. 2103 01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:47,980 That's not up for dispute. 2104 01:17:47,980 --> 01:17:57,460 Now it was suggested or it was stated that a meeting took place between Mr. Kane and someone within RTE. 2105 01:17:58,360 --> 01:17:59,840 It's a crazy bit of business. 2106 01:18:00,460 --> 01:18:01,760 Absolute crazy bit of business. 2107 01:18:02,580 --> 01:18:08,600 So far we've had revelations that Ryan was known as the toy man to children. 2108 01:18:09,500 --> 01:18:13,520 And also that he was in some fella's kitchen five days a week. 2109 01:18:14,820 --> 01:18:15,760 Crazy bit of business. 2110 01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:17,620 There was a barter account. 2111 01:18:18,220 --> 01:18:19,520 There was a Renault involved. 2112 01:18:21,700 --> 01:18:27,100 And that Noel Kellogg had no idea about what was going on. 2113 01:18:27,180 --> 01:18:28,520 Financial impropriety. 2114 01:18:29,020 --> 01:18:30,780 What was going on inside RTE. 2115 01:18:30,980 --> 01:18:33,900 When did you notify RTE that you were going to... 2116 01:18:33,900 --> 01:18:34,900 Sorry, sorry, sorry. 2117 01:18:35,460 --> 01:18:36,140 Alan Tyler. 2118 01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:37,240 You thought there was somebody else? 2119 01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:37,880 Yeah, sorry, sorry. 2120 01:18:37,980 --> 01:18:39,700 I'll come back to you if you want to go back to that question first. 2121 01:18:39,700 --> 01:18:39,860 Sorry. 2122 01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:41,960 Yeah, Alan Tyler, the new head of entertainment. 2123 01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:42,360 Yeah. 2124 01:18:42,500 --> 01:18:42,800 Yes. 2125 01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:44,420 You met with him on what date? 2126 01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,020 Alan Tyler, everybody. 2127 01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:47,060 A few times when he started. 2128 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:48,500 In March, what date? 2129 01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:52,540 Did he say quite a few tiles when he started? 2130 01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:53,820 About Alan Tyler. 2131 01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:54,600 Let's have a listen. 2132 01:18:56,260 --> 01:18:57,680 In March, what date? 2133 01:18:57,940 --> 01:18:59,140 In March, what date? 2134 01:19:00,440 --> 01:19:01,540 I'm not really sure. 2135 01:19:01,900 --> 01:19:02,260 I... 2136 01:19:02,260 --> 01:19:06,640 What was the purpose of that meeting? 2137 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:06,900 Yeah. 2138 01:19:07,100 --> 01:19:08,640 You were just suggesting... 2139 01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:09,680 I don't know. 2140 01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:09,780 I don't know. 2141 01:19:09,780 --> 01:19:09,920 I don't know. 2142 01:19:10,780 --> 01:19:13,300 I would have met with him quite a few times when he started. 2143 01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:14,060 In March. 2144 01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,520 He said, I met with him quite a few times when he started. 2145 01:19:17,660 --> 01:19:21,300 I thought he said he had quite a few tiles when he started. 2146 01:19:21,480 --> 01:19:23,160 And his name was Tyler as well. 2147 01:19:23,740 --> 01:19:29,720 Maybe there was some further development in this murky kind of thing that somebody was getting 2148 01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:31,220 a kickback of tiles. 2149 01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:32,820 Maybe he was getting a kitchen done. 2150 01:19:33,340 --> 01:19:34,560 And then there was tiles going. 2151 01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:39,280 Maybe there was like a sponsorship from Right Price Tiles or any of that sort of jazz. 2152 01:19:39,460 --> 01:19:42,020 I'm sure it'll all come to light. 2153 01:19:42,020 --> 01:19:45,740 On behalf of Informed Ortea, March the 13th. 2154 01:19:46,220 --> 01:19:46,960 And that's right. 2155 01:19:47,900 --> 01:19:48,140 Okay. 2156 01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:54,600 On the same day, you announced publicly that you were going to be stepping back from the 2157 01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:55,100 Late Late Show. 2158 01:19:55,460 --> 01:19:56,520 No, that was... 2159 01:19:56,520 --> 01:20:01,020 You were talking about that interview, that few weeks before where I was at an event. 2160 01:20:02,380 --> 01:20:04,460 And do you want me to go into this or... 2161 01:20:04,460 --> 01:20:04,640 No. 2162 01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:10,700 You stated publicly on March the 16th that you were going to be stepping back. 2163 01:20:10,700 --> 01:20:13,900 When did you notify RTE of your decision? 2164 01:20:14,440 --> 01:20:14,800 Oh, sorry. 2165 01:20:14,900 --> 01:20:15,320 Excuse me. 2166 01:20:15,540 --> 01:20:16,320 Yeah, my apologies. 2167 01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,880 The 13th to RTE and the 16th to the public. 2168 01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:24,420 So, can I ask, had anyone in RTE notified you, Mr. Tuberty? 2169 01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:24,740 No. 2170 01:20:25,300 --> 01:20:26,060 Or you, Mr. Kelly? 2171 01:20:26,140 --> 01:20:26,320 No. 2172 01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,180 Of the concerns that the light had? 2173 01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:30,200 Can I answer? 2174 01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:31,860 I really must, Deputy. 2175 01:20:32,140 --> 01:20:33,640 Toy Story 5! 2176 01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:35,760 Because we can be here until the last... 2177 01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:36,900 Yes or no? 2178 01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:38,260 Because time is up for us. 2179 01:20:38,260 --> 01:20:38,720 Well, do you know what? 2180 01:20:38,860 --> 01:20:39,480 Yes or no? 2181 01:20:39,540 --> 01:20:40,680 Did anyone from RTE... 2182 01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,300 I need a little time to, forgive me. 2183 01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:48,220 But I will be here until the last dog barks, until you believe me that that decision came 2184 01:20:48,220 --> 01:20:49,720 from my heart and soul. 2185 01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:53,200 That started being that decision, the kernel of it was last August. 2186 01:20:53,340 --> 01:20:57,340 So, we can talk about timelines and dates and grant fortune and everything else. 2187 01:20:57,540 --> 01:20:59,280 This was a very personal decision. 2188 01:20:59,660 --> 01:20:59,820 Okay. 2189 01:20:59,940 --> 01:21:01,400 So, can you answer the question then? 2190 01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:08,580 And did anyone from RTE contact either you, Mr. Tuberty, or you, Mr. Kelly, about the review that the light had initiated? 2191 01:21:08,580 --> 01:21:09,420 Not till May. 2192 01:21:09,780 --> 01:21:10,540 Not till May. 2193 01:21:10,660 --> 01:21:10,860 Correct. 2194 01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:11,320 Not till May. 2195 01:21:11,500 --> 01:21:11,620 Not till May. 2196 01:21:11,620 --> 01:21:11,920 Not till May. 2197 01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:12,680 Great stuff. 2198 01:21:12,820 --> 01:21:13,080 We've got... 2199 01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:13,520 We've got you. 2200 01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:14,160 The picture... 2201 01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:14,260 Sorry. 2202 01:21:14,260 --> 01:21:14,880 I was the one who went to it. 2203 01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:15,000 Sorry. 2204 01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:16,180 The picture has been found. 2205 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:17,620 The picture has been found. 2206 01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:18,880 Yeah. 2207 01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:24,620 If you could send Conor Ferran, I don't know how you would go about channeling this picture to me. 2208 01:21:27,780 --> 01:21:28,820 Because I can't... 2209 01:21:28,820 --> 01:21:30,160 You can't put a link in the chat. 2210 01:21:31,380 --> 01:21:35,520 Just maybe describe where I can find it there and I'll get to it. 2211 01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,580 Why was that only signed? 2212 01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:39,440 Paul Meschel, thank you very much. 2213 01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,140 And Buzz Shite here as well. 2214 01:21:42,220 --> 01:21:42,900 Thank you very much. 2215 01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:44,660 For 2020, the first... 2216 01:21:44,660 --> 01:21:45,400 Did you hear that? 2217 01:21:45,900 --> 01:21:46,420 Did you hear that? 2218 01:21:46,780 --> 01:21:47,620 Then it went to 21. 2219 01:21:48,620 --> 01:21:52,860 Big, big, exasperated exhalation there from Ryan. 2220 01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:54,940 Things are getting tough here, guys. 2221 01:21:55,620 --> 01:21:56,340 Listen to this. 2222 01:21:56,860 --> 01:21:58,260 At that stage... 2223 01:21:58,260 --> 01:21:59,740 Because the agreement originally... 2224 01:21:59,740 --> 01:22:00,060 Look, that... 2225 01:22:00,060 --> 01:22:03,140 It was supposed to be for 2020, the first... 2226 01:22:03,140 --> 01:22:04,220 The first lot of events. 2227 01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:05,140 But then that was COVID. 2228 01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:06,140 Then it went to 21. 2229 01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:06,960 The first lot of events. 2230 01:22:07,220 --> 01:22:07,940 The first... 2231 01:22:07,940 --> 01:22:11,600 It was supposed to be for 2020, the first... 2232 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:12,560 The first lot of events. 2233 01:22:12,780 --> 01:22:13,480 But then that was COVID. 2234 01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:14,360 Then it went to 21. 2235 01:22:14,480 --> 01:22:15,460 The first lot of events. 2236 01:22:15,460 --> 01:22:18,280 But it was supposed to be for 2020, the first... 2237 01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:20,040 The first lot of events. 2238 01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:20,820 But then it was COVID. 2239 01:22:21,420 --> 01:22:22,040 Sent to RTE. 2240 01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:23,260 They sent them to Astus. 2241 01:22:23,300 --> 01:22:23,960 Okay, I'm just... 2242 01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:25,280 I'm just asking about this. 2243 01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,720 The tripartite agreement, in fairness. 2244 01:22:27,900 --> 01:22:28,580 Oh, Mr. Kelly. 2245 01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:33,380 So it's purely coincidental that that was taken down off the shelf and signed in April. 2246 01:22:33,380 --> 01:22:34,460 Rub a dub in a tub. 2247 01:22:34,580 --> 01:22:35,340 Thank you very much. 2248 01:22:35,380 --> 01:22:38,480 A month and a half after Deloitte raised these concerns. 2249 01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:39,340 The edibles. 2250 01:22:39,580 --> 01:22:40,040 The agreement. 2251 01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,180 The treatment in the agreement is Renault. 2252 01:22:44,180 --> 01:22:45,020 The Renault agreement. 2253 01:22:45,140 --> 01:22:45,760 You've got RTE. 2254 01:22:45,900 --> 01:22:46,440 You've got Renault. 2255 01:22:46,440 --> 01:22:48,240 Separate agreement just to go... 2256 01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,100 We had right price tiles. 2257 01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:51,820 We had the pony club. 2258 01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:53,280 I bought a pony. 2259 01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,000 I gave Ryan the pony. 2260 01:22:56,200 --> 01:23:00,440 Then Renault came in with an extra repartite upgrade. 2261 01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:05,800 On top of the tripartite, we had a troika in there as well. 2262 01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:10,880 Antonio Perala there saying that Ryan's exhalation is down. 2263 01:23:11,060 --> 01:23:13,780 Somebody's just given some information to Noel Kelly. 2264 01:23:13,860 --> 01:23:14,020 Look. 2265 01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:18,060 The contract had been formed or come about. 2266 01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:20,280 So can I just ask in relation... 2267 01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:25,380 On the 18th of April, page 35 in the pack. 2268 01:23:26,060 --> 01:23:27,380 Niamh, thank you for calling this morning. 2269 01:23:27,460 --> 01:23:27,920 Email below. 2270 01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,840 The one I mentioned refers to the third side letter, which you don't seem to have in file. 2271 01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:32,440 We don't seem to have fully signed copy with Renault. 2272 01:23:33,780 --> 01:23:34,620 We signed it later. 2273 01:23:34,700 --> 01:23:37,920 The first contact with... 2274 01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:40,120 Sorry, but the first contact... 2275 01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:41,220 We weren't concealing any issue. 2276 01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:42,240 It was just a Renault. 2277 01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:42,740 It was just a Renault. 2278 01:23:42,740 --> 01:23:46,860 Can I just ask in relation to the commercial contract... 2279 01:23:46,860 --> 01:23:47,900 The Renault equipment. 2280 01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:50,000 Barter. 2281 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:52,160 Tripartite. 2282 01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:53,380 Now put it forward first. 2283 01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:55,940 The new Renault Clio. 2284 01:23:55,940 --> 01:23:59,180 It's unusual in terms of your negotiate on behalf of... 2285 01:23:59,180 --> 01:24:02,000 Drive the new Renault barter account tonight. 2286 01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,460 Starting at €75,000 per annum. 2287 01:24:05,460 --> 01:24:06,580 ...that you represent. 2288 01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:10,100 Would it be normal that RTE would put forward proposals... 2289 01:24:10,100 --> 01:24:12,400 Don't worry about the license fee payers, John. 2290 01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:14,580 They're only fucking chips anyway. 2291 01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:21,600 This is exceptional because Ryan, as the host of the Late Late Show... 2292 01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,320 ...and Renault as the sponsor of the Late Late Show... 2293 01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,960 ...and the Late Late Show being owned by RTE... 2294 01:24:26,540 --> 01:24:27,960 ...it is... 2295 01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:29,000 Yeah, it's unique. 2296 01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:29,500 It's an exception. 2297 01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,420 No other cases of any of the other people. 2298 01:24:32,580 --> 01:24:32,740 No. 2299 01:24:32,740 --> 01:24:33,800 No other cases. 2300 01:24:34,860 --> 01:24:36,320 Poddy Bob, thank you very much. 2301 01:24:36,460 --> 01:24:37,680 In relation to... 2302 01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:39,560 D4 Toy Store. 2303 01:24:40,060 --> 01:24:41,720 Shady Ganley, thank you very much. 2304 01:24:42,500 --> 01:24:45,480 ...that we know there was an attempt... 2305 01:24:45,480 --> 01:24:47,060 ...and there's a trail there... 2306 01:24:47,060 --> 01:24:49,640 ...that no names were to appear on the invoices. 2307 01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:54,820 Whose suggestion was it to label them as consultancy fees? 2308 01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:56,020 RTE. 2309 01:24:56,420 --> 01:24:56,880 RTE? 2310 01:24:57,140 --> 01:25:03,540 Who in RTE informed you to put them down as consultancy fees? 2311 01:25:03,540 --> 01:25:03,840 No. 2312 01:25:05,900 --> 01:25:07,220 Renault have shat the bed. 2313 01:25:07,540 --> 01:25:08,300 They're pulling out. 2314 01:25:09,300 --> 01:25:10,260 Don't worry, though. 2315 01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:13,700 RTE said they're going to foot the bill. 2316 01:25:17,020 --> 01:25:20,220 They say they've got enough money in the public purse... 2317 01:25:20,220 --> 01:25:23,180 ...to bankroll tubs for another lifetime. 2318 01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:30,720 What about the license fee payers? Won't they be angry at this? 2319 01:25:31,820 --> 01:25:33,900 Don't worry about the license fee payers, John. 2320 01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:36,760 They're only fucking chibs anyway. 2321 01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:44,760 He stated that it was in his view that the public had been defrauded because of... 2322 01:25:45,440 --> 01:25:45,940 Tubs. 2323 01:25:48,340 --> 01:25:50,080 600,000 tubs. 2324 01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:53,260 It's insane. 2325 01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:59,960 I would suggest purposely confuse the true nature of the invoices... 2326 01:25:59,960 --> 01:26:02,200 Your pedicure dies all over the world. 2327 01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:15,640 Would you agree with me, Chief Financial Officer, that the public has been potentially defrauded because of the issuing of these invoices by yourself and the payment by RTE of the 275,000? 2328 01:26:17,020 --> 01:26:21,600 At all times, we were acting under instruction from RTE, as I've already stated. 2329 01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:28,400 Okay, but would you agree with the Chief Financial Officer that the taxpayer has been... 2330 01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:32,240 Thank you very much there, lads from Hosier Lane. 2331 01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,240 Has Tommy not done some driving for Renault, Francis? 2332 01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:34,800 I'm not sure. 2333 01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:35,940 I'm not sure. 2334 01:26:35,940 --> 01:26:38,420 Tom, have you any information on the Renault connection? 2335 01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:45,920 I have not. 2336 01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:55,680 when they the European cars I drive Japan I drive Japan that's what I go for Toyota Nissan reliable 2337 01:26:55,680 --> 01:27:05,300 Suzuki reliable motors like you know good little runners but I do say about that thanks very much 2338 01:27:05,300 --> 01:27:12,200 there Kellogg's tie-by for the tip I do say about fears you know what fear stands for don't you fix 2339 01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:26,900 it again tomorrow thanks Tom for that we have to break for 10 minutes we have to break guys we have to 2340 01:27:26,900 --> 01:27:41,540 break wow 10 minutes unbelievable scenes here at this absolute incendiary pack meeting 2341 01:27:41,540 --> 01:27:48,920 Tupac Shakur the hologram is going to be coming up next we've word that he's on the way he's being 2342 01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:56,300 delivered uh on a on a laser disc and that's coming in but apparently he was meant to be here earlier but 2343 01:27:56,300 --> 01:28:03,280 it's um fastway couriers apparently uh said that they they were there no one was there to pick it up 2344 01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:08,460 that's the text came through but there were there were people there um so they're going to be coming 2345 01:28:08,460 --> 01:28:16,580 back again on another loop in about an hour's time um but hopefully we'll get that laser disc intact and 2346 01:28:16,580 --> 01:28:25,360 they don't just throw it in in the fucking bin like they did with my uh cd drive that I I ordered in order 2347 01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:33,340 to rip old cd-rom fucking windows 98 programs so that I could play them on a virtual machine there a couple 2348 01:28:33,340 --> 01:28:39,800 years ago apparently uh I wasn't in when they rang the bell even though I was and then they decided to 2349 01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:45,300 throw the fucking thing inside a bin which had rubbish inside it as well Tom 2350 01:28:45,300 --> 01:28:52,760 yep not great but I mean at least you did get the package in the end you know that's the main thing 2351 01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:59,020 big man Tyrone thank you very much and 10 minute toy break as well and wheelhead very very kind of you 2352 01:28:59,020 --> 01:29:02,260 there what does the j and thomas j schlug stand for you ask 2353 01:29:02,260 --> 01:29:13,620 hosiah i i i i'd never let that slip on stream but you know you know it now anyway and uh captain sack 2354 01:29:13,620 --> 01:29:20,600 thank you very much you see you've got the the old um oh you've got f123 for xbox as well great stuff 2355 01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:28,600 yeah i want to say thanks as well to captain sack for that uh dead space which uh was duly downloaded 2356 01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:36,360 and installed on the xbox it's just a matter of time before that gets going you know i'm i don't seem to 2357 01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:45,740 have the consistency and uh ability to go from game to game like it was two or three years ago i'm not sure 2358 01:29:45,740 --> 01:29:50,840 what that is but i'm really hoping to get back on that fucking vibe again if i can hit if i can hit a 2359 01:29:50,840 --> 01:30:00,220 good solid vein of fucking finishing the games and getting straight into another one again then i'll be 2360 01:30:00,220 --> 01:30:06,640 i'll be onto a winning streak um but um i don't know what it is it's all about it's it's all about the 2361 01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:14,580 right time the place the frame of mind all sorts of uh factors come into play let's just see if we can 2362 01:30:14,580 --> 01:30:22,260 put on a little bit of music here if we got any kind of uh what have we got music to just play while 2363 01:30:22,260 --> 01:30:38,640 we're um yeah that's that's nice that's like yeah a bit of bossa nova but if i can get if i can get 2364 01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:49,840 myself to a rich vein of streaming content format output then the sky's the limit it really is jimmy 2365 01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:54,880 juices thank you very much there patine and i put reno on it thank you very much as well 2366 01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:59,920 uh tubbers in the voice talking absolute cat says jimmy juices 2367 01:30:59,920 --> 01:31:21,760 the barter accounts the kellys cornflakes the pony in show the show and the pony the reno you know 2368 01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:30,880 it's not coming homey we've got a lovely 75 grand oh 75 grand here a 75 grand there a lovely little bit 2369 01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:41,040 of public accounts committee room we've got the public accounts committee room suspended until 12 42 2370 01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:48,640 public purse the public purse it's funding all the stuff we're gonna need a nurse because i'm feeling sick 2371 01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:57,120 i'm feeling ill i've heard some revelations about some dodgy pills the boys were taken when they were outside waking and baking 2372 01:31:57,120 --> 01:32:06,880 with the reno boys we got the reno lads they're in the house we got the reno lads quiet as mouse they're in the side of the room 2373 01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:11,760 picking it all the answers that are being given to the boys 2374 01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:16,320 uh aiden the average thank you very much there for the tip 2375 01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:25,120 very very kindly turn that down sorry it was a little bit loud there but i might just go for that again 2376 01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:30,240 there maybe i'll go back for i'll do another sing singy bit there we'll change the tune what's our 2377 01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:32,080 here's another one 2378 01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:48,720 we got the reno bop now we'll go back to the other one sorry we got the reno boys 2379 01:32:54,000 --> 01:33:02,080 yeah yeah yeah yeah we got the reno boys they're coming through we got the reno boys how are you 2380 01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:10,960 worth the public account committee at 12 42. did you drive a reno did you see what it's like 2381 01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:19,200 75k a friday night we got the late late show the man with the toys the toy man's in town and he's 2382 01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:25,440 rounding up boys he's got the boys in the back of the reno tonight we're going driving around until 2383 01:33:25,440 --> 01:33:36,400 daylight we're suspended until 12 42 75k what do you do 150k at the public purse we're gonna go to the 2384 01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:44,000 hospital we need a nurse i feel like i've had a heart attack not looking forward and i'm not looking back 2385 01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:51,760 can't wait to go to the public accounts committee we've got two pack is coming and soon he's gonna be 2386 01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:59,920 on laser disc it's a hologram of two pack you don't want him is two packs common it's gonna be nice give 2387 01:33:59,920 --> 01:34:10,080 ryan back his toys tonight shlago spiders thank you kinky john with the five euro two in the average and 2388 01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:17,920 jimmy juices patty and captain sack and big man to roll we got the toys in the back of the reno 2389 01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:27,280 we got a lovely big massive reno a spas we got a load of toys in the back of that we're going driving it 2390 01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:37,040 around town tonight 75k we'll be feeling all right we got the reno cars and we've got noel kelly in the 2391 01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:43,120 the back of the car he's he's rolling up big ones he's doing well he's wearing boot cuts and he's 2392 01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:50,560 feeling swell he's got the boot cut jeans and the leather shoes we've got a load of lovely rules we're 2393 01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:58,480 gonna break them though breaking rules is what we do inside the reno again we got the reno again the reno 2394 01:34:58,480 --> 01:35:05,520 was fast we got papa nicole on your ass they're driving fast tonight they're gonna see everything's all 2395 01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:18,000 right we're going driving in the public committee room number one it's suspended until 12 42 another 2396 01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:26,720 two minutes how do you do hello the people in the viewing gallery loads of papers loads of stuff i'm 2397 01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:29,680 trying to think of what rhymes with gallery 2398 01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:39,200 noel kelly's coming out tonight he's got a load of reno's and he's feeling all right he's got a raker 2399 01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:45,360 reno's in the garage at home you thought they got paid well they don't have a bone don't believe a 2400 01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:53,360 word that the papers say they're making up lies day after day tubs is nothing wrong he wants to sing his 2401 01:35:53,360 --> 01:36:02,320 song every morning on the on the radio playing up to the gallery about a lovely lovely 2402 01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:12,000 salary a 90 brake horsepower available a lovely little car if you drive it well make sure you 2403 01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:18,880 don't leave it in the rain otherwise it'll swell these french cars these french cars aren't the best 2404 01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:24,000 you need to make sure they're out of the fucking rain they're only used to a mediterranean climate 2405 01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:29,840 sure the reno is it's only meant for driving around the south of france you're not gonna do well with a 2406 01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:39,520 theater reno after uh you know what a winter in iran are you joking on the on the license fee 2407 01:36:47,520 --> 01:37:05,200 we've got a lot of questions that need to be asked the answers are coming thick and fast there's a 2408 01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:20,880 solicitor in the background shining in he's got the facts and the details and he's slick with spin he's a 2409 01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:26,880 spin doctor and he's doing his job he's on the public purse like a bit of a schlap there's money 2410 01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:36,560 coming in there's money going out where's it going someone needs to shout stop now we got a lovely bit 2411 01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:38,080 Questioning going on. 2412 01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,100 No one's saying anyone's done anything wrong, 2413 01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:45,260 but there's an element, there's an element of shady business. 2414 01:37:47,440 --> 01:37:50,080 Fastway couriers are coming in. 2415 01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:52,520 They've just delivered the tin, 2416 01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:55,580 and it's got a laser disc inside, 2417 01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:59,200 and onside that laser disc job 2418 01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:02,520 is a lovely hologram of Tupac and Bob. 2419 01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:05,260 Who is Bob, you ask? 2420 01:38:05,260 --> 01:38:08,440 It's the man who gave Tupac a mask. 2421 01:38:08,940 --> 01:38:11,060 He's on disc with him as well. 2422 01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:14,040 We're going to see Tubbs talk about that as well. 2423 01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:16,040 It's going to be really nice. 2424 01:38:16,500 --> 01:38:19,940 Make sure you don't miss it tonight, or even today. 2425 01:38:20,140 --> 01:38:23,280 But apparently this will go on till six. 2426 01:38:23,540 --> 01:38:24,780 It's going to be long. 2427 01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:26,080 It'll make you sick. 2428 01:38:26,440 --> 01:38:29,160 We said it before, and we'll see it again. 2429 01:38:30,300 --> 01:38:32,320 75K, it never ends. 2430 01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:35,160 The song keeps going on and on. 2431 01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:36,800 No one shouted stop. 2432 01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:38,240 We've got a song. 2433 01:38:38,540 --> 01:38:41,300 We're going to sing loud and sing it proud. 2434 01:38:41,740 --> 01:38:44,260 Renault did we pass the NCT last week. 2435 01:38:50,260 --> 01:38:52,140 It's 1244, lads. 2436 01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:53,920 Where the fuck are you tonight? 2437 01:38:56,220 --> 01:38:57,520 It's 1244. 2438 01:38:57,760 --> 01:38:59,100 You said you'd be back now. 2439 01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:02,100 What are you doing now, now brown cow? 2440 01:39:02,460 --> 01:39:03,860 You pack a lion bastard. 2441 01:39:04,060 --> 01:39:05,180 We believed you, lads. 2442 01:39:05,480 --> 01:39:08,340 You need to come back, or even run some ads, 2443 01:39:08,440 --> 01:39:09,680 because this is boring. 2444 01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:11,180 Just looking at this screen. 2445 01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:12,720 Committee room one. 2446 01:39:12,780 --> 01:39:14,160 It's like a fever dream. 2447 01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:17,040 The public accounts suspended today. 2448 01:39:17,540 --> 01:39:20,160 We've been here, and we're having our way. 2449 01:39:20,500 --> 01:39:23,020 It's a lovely bit of business, and it's really nice. 2450 01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:24,840 I wonder if this is the... 2451 01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:25,920 When I'm seeing these... 2452 01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:26,440 Oh, we're back. 2453 01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:26,780 We're back. 2454 01:39:28,100 --> 01:39:29,560 Okay, we're back in public session. 2455 01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:34,920 Just in relation to the checking the date in that diary, 2456 01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:37,980 and the meeting with the member, 2457 01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:39,160 which is member Saf and RT. 2458 01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:40,540 Did you clarify that during the break? 2459 01:39:40,540 --> 01:39:42,780 I just get the coffee, sorry. 2460 01:39:43,580 --> 01:39:47,680 And Jim Jennings, who will be head of programming content. 2461 01:39:47,820 --> 01:39:51,420 Alan Tyler is our head of entertainment. 2462 01:39:51,580 --> 01:39:52,060 Is it a date for now? 2463 01:39:52,180 --> 01:39:52,320 Okay. 2464 01:39:52,500 --> 01:39:53,700 Yeah, 6th of March. 2465 01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:54,900 So we had a meeting... 2466 01:39:54,900 --> 01:39:55,840 And the date of the... 2467 01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:56,700 The date of the... 2468 01:39:56,700 --> 01:39:58,020 The date? 2469 01:39:58,020 --> 01:39:59,180 Yes, yes, yes. 2470 01:39:59,620 --> 01:40:00,300 6th of March. 2471 01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:01,720 6th of March was that date. 2472 01:40:01,820 --> 01:40:02,420 Okay, thank you. 2473 01:40:02,860 --> 01:40:04,960 Next committee member is Deputy Verona Murphy. 2474 01:40:05,440 --> 01:40:06,020 Thank you, Chair. 2475 01:40:06,440 --> 01:40:08,640 And just in relation to that meeting, Mr Kelly, 2476 01:40:08,820 --> 01:40:12,460 was the topic Grant Thornton brought up. 2477 01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:13,300 No, thank you. 2478 01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:17,900 The topic was issues around... 2479 01:40:17,900 --> 01:40:21,620 I suppose, well, really, the Late Late Show timings under the start. 2480 01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:24,520 During COVID, the Late Late Show finished at 11 o'clock. 2481 01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:26,360 So the issues were around... 2482 01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:27,680 And I don't mean to cut you off, 2483 01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:30,980 but you're just categorically stating that there wasn't a discussion. 2484 01:40:30,980 --> 01:40:31,820 Yes, yes, yes. 2485 01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:32,620 Sorry, sorry, sorry. 2486 01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:35,340 Yeah, no, it was very much about issues around the Late Late Show 2487 01:40:35,340 --> 01:40:37,300 and trying to finish it earlier, et cetera. 2488 01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:38,400 Okay, thank you. 2489 01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:43,980 But it does seem a bit odd that you'd have been having that discussion, 2490 01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:47,000 given Mr Tuberty's resignation. 2491 01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:49,600 Or was it just for the remaining shows? 2492 01:40:50,100 --> 01:40:51,360 No, it was before. 2493 01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:52,600 It was before. 2494 01:40:52,820 --> 01:40:54,760 And it wasn't related to it. 2495 01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:55,940 Okay. 2496 01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:56,780 Maybe you... 2497 01:40:56,780 --> 01:40:58,100 Do you want to talk about... 2498 01:40:58,100 --> 01:40:58,720 Well, no. 2499 01:40:59,180 --> 01:41:00,260 Were you at that meeting? 2500 01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:01,180 Yes, I was, yeah. 2501 01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:02,040 Okay, okay. 2502 01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:06,240 But it had nothing to do as you're categorically saying there was no discussion. 2503 01:41:06,460 --> 01:41:08,960 Deputy Murphy, like I said at the statement at the outset, 2504 01:41:09,180 --> 01:41:12,260 it was one of the untruths I really, really wanted to clear up here today. 2505 01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:18,160 And there was no, no, no connection between this fiasco 2506 01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:20,120 and my departure from the Late Late Show. 2507 01:41:20,180 --> 01:41:20,640 I promise you. 2508 01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:23,240 So you'll have watched all of the previous engagements. 2509 01:41:23,620 --> 01:41:26,620 So is it your view, Mr Tuberty? 2510 01:41:27,140 --> 01:41:27,800 And it's hard... 2511 01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:28,800 Like, I don't know... 2512 01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:31,280 Like, look, for a start, I'd like to say you're welcome here. 2513 01:41:31,420 --> 01:41:31,920 Thank you for that. 2514 01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:34,340 And it's nice that you came without having to be compelled. 2515 01:41:34,480 --> 01:41:34,860 Thank you. 2516 01:41:34,860 --> 01:41:35,280 But I think... 2517 01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:36,080 Thanks very much, lads. 2518 01:41:36,100 --> 01:41:38,500 It's not that anybody knows how to address you 2519 01:41:38,500 --> 01:41:39,380 because we're so... 2520 01:41:39,380 --> 01:41:40,680 Everybody feels they know you. 2521 01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:41,820 I know, I prefer if you come in, Ryan, 2522 01:41:41,900 --> 01:41:43,480 but I understand that's not the nature of it. 2523 01:41:43,500 --> 01:41:44,380 Well, it's like when you call me deputy. 2524 01:41:44,460 --> 01:41:44,680 Okay. 2525 01:41:44,700 --> 01:41:46,540 But even all that aside, it's superfluous. 2526 01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:47,920 But the reality is this. 2527 01:41:48,340 --> 01:41:51,380 You will have seen Mr Adrian Lynch, 2528 01:41:51,380 --> 01:41:54,620 who was the interim director general, 2529 01:41:54,780 --> 01:42:00,220 say that it was possible that you did know pre-year announcement. 2530 01:42:00,260 --> 01:42:01,300 Yes, that's very unfortunate. 2531 01:42:01,820 --> 01:42:03,820 And do you feel, is it your view then... 2532 01:42:03,820 --> 01:42:04,560 Nintendo Game Boy! 2533 01:42:04,740 --> 01:42:08,040 ...that Mr Lynch threw you under the bus with that connotation? 2534 01:42:08,660 --> 01:42:11,900 Mr Lynch is entitled to his conjecture. 2535 01:42:12,340 --> 01:42:14,440 Don't obsess with me all the time. 2536 01:42:14,740 --> 01:42:14,960 Okay. 2537 01:42:16,340 --> 01:42:18,120 Well, let me move to your statement 2538 01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:22,120 because you have outlined seven untruths. 2539 01:42:22,740 --> 01:42:26,300 And to be fair, you've come here to give your side of the story 2540 01:42:26,300 --> 01:42:28,120 and we as deputies need to hear... 2541 01:42:28,860 --> 01:42:29,760 Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, 2542 01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:29,760 Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, T 2543 01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:36,560 Thanks very much. Did he throw them under the bus? And was the bus a Renault minibus? 2544 01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:43,240 What I'd just like to ask you, is it your view? Sorry, do we have one more time? And was it... 2545 01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:53,360 Did he throw them under the bus? And what's more, was it a Renault minibus? Oh, fuck, do it again, sorry. 2546 01:42:53,360 --> 01:43:18,960 The main questions I believe need to be answered are: Did Ryan throw Arty under the bus? And was it a Renault minibus? Was the bus that... Did they throw him under the bus? Or did he throw them under the bus? And what was the make of the bus? Was it a Renault? 2547 01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:22,300 maybe no one has something 2548 01:43:22,300 --> 01:43:23,500 applause 2549 01:43:23,500 --> 01:43:25,500 applause 2550 01:43:25,500 --> 01:43:27,440 applause 2551 01:43:27,440 --> 01:43:30,060 applause 2552 01:43:30,060 --> 01:43:32,220 applause 2553 01:43:32,220 --> 01:43:33,220 applause 2554 01:43:33,220 --> 01:43:35,220 applause 2555 01:43:35,220 --> 01:43:36,220 applause 2556 01:43:36,220 --> 01:43:37,220 applause 2557 01:43:37,220 --> 01:43:38,220 applause 2558 01:43:38,220 --> 01:43:39,220 applause 2559 01:43:39,220 --> 01:43:40,140 applause 2560 01:43:40,140 --> 01:43:42,740 I just sat down and said, what is that, what is this? 2561 01:43:43,260 --> 01:43:44,620 It's all there, it would have been explained 2562 01:43:44,620 --> 01:43:48,020 the 120,000, there was no 120,000 2563 01:43:48,020 --> 01:43:50,660 and on and on and on. Just in your case 2564 01:43:50,660 --> 01:43:52,880 Mr Kelly, at some point Mr Collins 2565 01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:54,040 was being asked 2566 01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:56,860 in relation to why he did 2567 01:43:56,860 --> 01:43:58,540 not ask questions 2568 01:43:58,540 --> 01:44:00,740 with regard to the invoices being 2569 01:44:00,740 --> 01:44:03,140 raised with consultancy 2570 01:44:03,140 --> 01:44:04,800 fees as the 2571 01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:06,880 description. He said that 2572 01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:08,780 because, and I don't want to 2573 01:44:08,780 --> 01:44:10,460 misquote, but the 2574 01:44:10,460 --> 01:44:13,100 inclination, the intimation was that yourself 2575 01:44:13,100 --> 01:44:14,800 and Dee Forbes had a 2576 01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:17,080 particularly, he was aware that you had a 2577 01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:18,940 particular report. I really need to see 2578 01:44:18,940 --> 01:44:21,840 really need to see that photograph 2579 01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:23,540 that had me honestly 2580 01:44:23,540 --> 01:44:25,440 nearly pissed myself 2581 01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:27,620 when I woke up and seen that this morning 2582 01:44:27,620 --> 01:44:28,820 and I've lost the image. 2583 01:44:29,260 --> 01:44:31,220 Somebody in the chat said they've got the image. 2584 01:44:31,500 --> 01:44:32,980 I don't know how to get that. 2585 01:44:33,220 --> 01:44:35,260 If anybody can direct me towards that image 2586 01:44:35,260 --> 01:44:38,620 because that would really, that'll boost me 2587 01:44:38,620 --> 01:44:41,720 send me right flying to the roof 2588 01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:42,260 that will. 2589 01:44:42,260 --> 01:44:45,780 You then, do you believe that he intended to deceive this committee? 2590 01:44:46,460 --> 01:44:48,660 I honestly can't say. I don't know. 2591 01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:52,000 And to be honest with you, like there was so many untruths. 2592 01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:54,100 I just had to stop looking and listening. 2593 01:44:54,820 --> 01:44:56,760 You know, we were under siege. 2594 01:44:57,120 --> 01:44:58,200 Like unreal, unreal. 2595 01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:01,360 Well, I think clearly from the notes we've received, 2596 01:45:01,500 --> 01:45:03,320 and I know we received them late this morning, 2597 01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:04,560 they're quite comprehensive. 2598 01:45:04,900 --> 01:45:07,740 in discarding what you believe to be untruths. 2599 01:45:08,380 --> 01:45:09,760 Like your definition, 2600 01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:11,860 my definition of an untruth is a lie. 2601 01:45:12,340 --> 01:45:12,880 It's a lie. 2602 01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:14,600 If it's not true, it's a lie. 2603 01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:18,260 So, are you able to say in your view 2604 01:45:18,260 --> 01:45:19,980 that RTE lied 2605 01:45:19,980 --> 01:45:22,980 to this committee 2606 01:45:22,980 --> 01:45:25,240 and those representing them? 2607 01:45:25,980 --> 01:45:27,460 Well, as you said, they were untruths. 2608 01:45:28,060 --> 01:45:28,780 Well, I think that... 2609 01:45:28,780 --> 01:45:29,500 Be careful with language. 2610 01:45:29,580 --> 01:45:31,680 Well, I think I don't need to be careful, Chair, 2611 01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:35,980 because the definition of an untruth is... 2612 01:45:35,980 --> 01:45:37,220 See, we should answer that, Mr Kelly. 2613 01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:39,000 Is that the best you can come up with? 2614 01:45:40,100 --> 01:45:41,500 I think there's been a lot of lies. 2615 01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:44,240 Intentional or not, I don't know. 2616 01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:45,880 Sorry, can you just repeat that again? 2617 01:45:46,140 --> 01:45:47,620 I think there's been a lot of lies, 2618 01:45:47,820 --> 01:45:49,060 and that's why we're here. 2619 01:45:49,500 --> 01:45:50,880 Intentional or not, I don't know. 2620 01:45:51,660 --> 01:45:54,180 Like, again, I don't know half of these people. 2621 01:45:54,180 --> 01:45:57,200 I've barely met them. 2622 01:45:57,700 --> 01:45:59,360 Would it be fair to say that, 2623 01:45:59,860 --> 01:46:03,220 given that we've outlined our side of the story today, 2624 01:46:03,780 --> 01:46:06,200 I would love the people to decide 2625 01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:09,140 what the definition of a truth or mistruth or a lie is, 2626 01:46:09,260 --> 01:46:12,400 in the sense that I would hope that they see some... 2627 01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:13,380 They get some clarity today. 2628 01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:15,920 On that, Mr. Trubbity, do you and... 2629 01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:17,760 Has there been pre-litigation? 2630 01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:20,380 We need to open up a discussion on a camera, 2631 01:46:20,380 --> 01:46:21,720 and say, I should only have an account. 2632 01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:23,960 The circumstances have not been dealt with. 2633 01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:24,880 We have in the dialogue. 2634 01:46:25,060 --> 01:46:25,980 A wider conversation. 2635 01:46:25,980 --> 01:46:26,800 That's a fraternity. 2636 01:46:26,980 --> 01:46:27,580 Yes, you have. 2637 01:46:27,740 --> 01:46:28,480 No, thank you. 2638 01:46:28,580 --> 01:46:31,420 And I just want to clarify... 2639 01:46:31,420 --> 01:46:36,120 To include those who may not need to be considered. 2640 01:46:36,220 --> 01:46:37,420 We're not looking at a decision. 2641 01:46:37,420 --> 01:46:38,020 Within the context. 2642 01:46:38,140 --> 01:46:38,980 Take into context. 2643 01:46:38,980 --> 01:46:39,980 Contextual context. 2644 01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:41,980 Is everybody being heard? 2645 01:46:42,060 --> 01:46:43,400 I'm not saying you're an idiot. 2646 01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:44,940 Some people have been marginalized. 2647 01:46:45,380 --> 01:46:46,000 Who's doing what? 2648 01:46:46,060 --> 01:46:48,600 Everyone needs to be heard, even the idiots. 2649 01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:50,420 We need to get to a level playing field. 2650 01:46:50,480 --> 01:46:52,060 Especially the idiots. 2651 01:46:52,060 --> 01:46:53,200 I can't say that. 2652 01:46:53,400 --> 01:46:54,580 What I'm saying is... 2653 01:46:54,580 --> 01:46:55,780 They're being antagonistic. 2654 01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:57,200 I don't like your tone. 2655 01:46:57,400 --> 01:46:58,040 What's a discourse? 2656 01:46:58,440 --> 01:46:59,660 We will say that. 2657 01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:00,540 Who's saying what? 2658 01:47:00,620 --> 01:47:01,900 What matters is... 2659 01:47:01,900 --> 01:47:03,820 The debate has transcended many forums. 2660 01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:05,660 What matters is... 2661 01:47:05,660 --> 01:47:06,640 You're being a cunt. 2662 01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:08,040 You would say that. 2663 01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:08,940 It's not right. 2664 01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:10,600 Everyone needs to be heard in this. 2665 01:47:10,760 --> 01:47:11,880 It's not just you and me. 2666 01:47:12,060 --> 01:47:13,120 It's not referendum. 2667 01:47:13,500 --> 01:47:14,420 It's referenda. 2668 01:47:14,660 --> 01:47:16,360 You're not fucking listening to me. 2669 01:47:16,460 --> 01:47:17,040 It's not right. 2670 01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:20,660 This is a topic fraught with danger and intrepidation. 2671 01:47:20,860 --> 01:47:21,900 We'll go around in circles. 2672 01:47:22,300 --> 01:47:23,880 Don't take that tone with me. 2673 01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:26,620 There needs to be an open-ended debate about this. 2674 01:47:26,820 --> 01:47:27,680 Oh dear. 2675 01:47:28,020 --> 01:47:29,180 We're supposed to say what? 2676 01:47:29,380 --> 01:47:30,780 Say that to me every week. 2677 01:47:30,780 --> 01:47:31,160 Lovely. 2678 01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:32,480 It's not just all of us. 2679 01:47:32,580 --> 01:47:33,860 Everyone needs to be heard. 2680 01:47:34,120 --> 01:47:34,980 The commercial relationship. 2681 01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:36,160 Papers. 2682 01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:37,500 The 75,000 commercial relationship. 2683 01:47:37,500 --> 01:47:38,740 Papers are being ruffled. 2684 01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:41,600 There's an air of panic in the room. 2685 01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:43,180 A man has left his chair. 2686 01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:44,800 That's two-pack. 2687 01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:47,540 Fastway couriers have just arrived. 2688 01:47:47,700 --> 01:47:49,240 That fellow is going out to get the package. 2689 01:47:49,660 --> 01:47:51,600 I'm trying in my head. 2690 01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:53,340 Kieran, thank you very much. 2691 01:47:53,420 --> 01:47:54,960 Hideo Kojima's subconscious. 2692 01:47:55,180 --> 01:47:56,000 Thank you very much. 2693 01:47:57,100 --> 01:47:59,500 That you say RTE came up with the plan, 2694 01:47:59,820 --> 01:48:02,560 the scheme to give 75,000. 2695 01:48:02,860 --> 01:48:04,660 Like, what gave rise to it? 2696 01:48:04,660 --> 01:48:12,040 So, the sponsor, RTE's probably biggest sponsor, 2697 01:48:12,540 --> 01:48:16,320 and RTE wanted these events. 2698 01:48:16,420 --> 01:48:17,980 So they came with the idea of the events, 2699 01:48:18,180 --> 01:48:20,080 where they'd happen, when they'd happen, 2700 01:48:20,660 --> 01:48:21,900 mini late, late, roadshow, 2701 01:48:21,980 --> 01:48:23,900 Ryan Troubley, Renault associations. 2702 01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:26,240 Okay, so RTE. 2703 01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:27,440 Completely separate, 2704 01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:31,320 completely separate to the contract. 2705 01:48:31,940 --> 01:48:32,180 Okay. 2706 01:48:32,300 --> 01:48:33,880 To Ryan's radio and TV contract. 2707 01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:35,440 We, I'm sorry, 2708 01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:38,500 and the first three were done in year three 2709 01:48:38,500 --> 01:48:39,240 because of COVID, 2710 01:48:39,480 --> 01:48:41,200 and then obviously this contractually, 2711 01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:42,600 it's still a number of six hours. 2712 01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:43,640 Okay, we have the image. 2713 01:48:43,660 --> 01:48:45,280 So was it the position that had that? 2714 01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:46,800 We have the image, everybody. 2715 01:48:46,940 --> 01:48:48,200 This is the one that shocked me, 2716 01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:52,520 and it's because somebody has obviously pointed out that, 2717 01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:55,240 Tommy, Tommy, are you there, Tom? 2718 01:48:56,300 --> 01:48:57,900 I am, yeah, what's going on? 2719 01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:01,720 It's your man Jack in my style, is it? 2720 01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:06,780 It's an image of Noel Kelly Jack in your style, 2721 01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:08,460 and what's more, 2722 01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:10,440 it's an image of Noel Kelly Jack in your style 2723 01:49:10,440 --> 01:49:11,940 with Ryan Troubley's face, 2724 01:49:12,340 --> 01:49:14,120 but for some reason or other, 2725 01:49:14,860 --> 01:49:18,220 when you put Noel Kelly's face on Ryan Troubley, 2726 01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:21,720 or if you put Ryan Troubley's face on Noel Kelly's head, 2727 01:49:21,820 --> 01:49:25,260 he looks even more like you, Tom. 2728 01:49:27,060 --> 01:49:28,080 I don't believe it, 2729 01:49:28,820 --> 01:49:29,800 and I won't believe it, 2730 01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:31,100 until I see it. 2731 01:49:31,780 --> 01:49:35,280 Would you see it actually? 2732 01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:37,900 So if I can just explain. 2733 01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:43,340 So the invoices were made at Arshtis, 2734 01:49:43,460 --> 01:49:44,420 they were directly emailed. 2735 01:49:44,420 --> 01:49:45,640 Trying to get that image now, 2736 01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:46,260 let's see this. 2737 01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:47,800 This is Tubbs and Tiles, 2738 01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:48,480 thanks very much, 2739 01:49:48,540 --> 01:49:49,380 and Papa Farron, 2740 01:49:49,380 --> 01:49:50,640 and Ciaran, 2741 01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:51,260 thank you very much. 2742 01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:52,260 Papa Farron, 2743 01:49:52,340 --> 01:49:54,660 who has just delivered the image to us, 2744 01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:57,060 it's from Twitter. 2745 01:49:57,220 --> 01:49:57,860 But why she would, 2746 01:49:58,360 --> 01:49:58,600 sorry, 2747 01:49:58,660 --> 01:49:59,940 why she would enter into an agreement. 2748 01:50:00,100 --> 01:50:01,620 How do we get this fucking thing up here? 2749 01:50:01,620 --> 01:50:01,960 Why she, 2750 01:50:02,120 --> 01:50:02,860 first of all, 2751 01:50:02,900 --> 01:50:03,420 gave a guarantee, 2752 01:50:03,820 --> 01:50:05,580 and what was at the back of. 2753 01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:06,220 We're going overtime. 2754 01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:07,560 Just answer your question. 2755 01:50:07,620 --> 01:50:07,800 I mean, 2756 01:50:07,860 --> 01:50:08,240 essentially, 2757 01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:10,040 that was in case the sponsor, 2758 01:50:10,180 --> 01:50:10,300 again, 2759 01:50:10,360 --> 01:50:11,780 the sponsor relation is with RTA, 2760 01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:12,400 now with us, 2761 01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:13,260 and for me, 2762 01:50:13,340 --> 01:50:14,220 what that was about was, 2763 01:50:14,380 --> 01:50:15,720 if there was a new sponsor in, 2764 01:50:16,180 --> 01:50:17,980 that during the duration of the contract, 2765 01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:22,560 that we would be able to work with the next sponsor. 2766 01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:24,700 But it was never an RTE payment. 2767 01:50:24,820 --> 01:50:25,320 It was Renault, 2768 01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:27,120 and Renault were always paying the invoice. 2769 01:50:27,220 --> 01:50:29,000 It was never meant to be RTE to pay this, 2770 01:50:29,180 --> 01:50:29,440 ever. 2771 01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:31,580 I just put to receive it back in terms of... 2772 01:50:31,580 --> 01:50:33,140 I can't get the fucking thing on the screen. 2773 01:50:33,500 --> 01:50:35,340 the benefit of that $75,000. 2774 01:50:35,780 --> 01:50:36,080 But, 2775 01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:37,080 you've contradicted, 2776 01:50:37,180 --> 01:50:37,420 by the way, 2777 01:50:37,480 --> 01:50:38,700 what Dee Forbes has told us 2778 01:50:38,700 --> 01:50:40,500 in the Public Accounts Committee previously, 2779 01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:42,100 back over the last few years, 2780 01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:46,320 that the reason that they had to pay these fees 2781 01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:48,420 is because the talent, 2782 01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:49,000 the stars, 2783 01:50:49,100 --> 01:50:49,500 would walk. 2784 01:50:50,220 --> 01:50:51,660 But I don't want to divert to that. 2785 01:50:51,740 --> 01:50:52,380 Deputy Alan Dillon, 2786 01:50:52,620 --> 01:50:53,000 10 minutes. 2787 01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:54,160 Yeah, 2788 01:50:54,340 --> 01:50:55,480 thanks very much, 2789 01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:57,440 and I'd like to welcome our witnesses 2790 01:50:57,440 --> 01:50:58,560 joining us today, 2791 01:50:58,640 --> 01:50:59,520 and thanks for being here. 2792 01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:01,380 Mr Kelly, 2793 01:51:01,580 --> 01:51:03,860 you said today that Mr Tuberty 2794 01:51:03,860 --> 01:51:05,640 is being made the poster boy 2795 01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:07,460 for this payment scandal. 2796 01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:08,680 The toy man. 2797 01:51:08,780 --> 01:51:09,560 The toy man. 2798 01:51:10,100 --> 01:51:10,820 Why is that the case? 2799 01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:11,920 Well, 2800 01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:13,060 intentionally and unintentionally, 2801 01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:14,860 as I said, 2802 01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:18,260 when the board in RTE released the statement, 2803 01:51:18,820 --> 01:51:20,300 without consulting us, 2804 01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:21,340 just having to ask for it, 2805 01:51:21,480 --> 01:51:22,420 and then not acknowledging 2806 01:51:22,420 --> 01:51:23,560 that there was no wrongdoing, 2807 01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:24,720 taking him off air, 2808 01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:27,960 then he was the face of it. 2809 01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:29,040 Do you? 2810 01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:31,380 And that's where it started, 2811 01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:34,060 and it's been working in its own vacuum 2812 01:51:34,060 --> 01:51:36,000 for the last two and a half weeks, 2813 01:51:36,180 --> 01:51:38,000 where that's why we wanted to come in, 2814 01:51:38,380 --> 01:51:39,260 we want to talk to you, 2815 01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:40,680 we want to tell you everything that we know, 2816 01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:42,940 because it's been very hard looking at 2817 01:51:42,940 --> 01:51:45,560 so many untruths, 2818 01:51:45,740 --> 01:51:46,680 deputies being told. 2819 01:51:46,820 --> 01:51:48,580 Do you accept responsibility 2820 01:51:48,580 --> 01:51:50,700 that your actions have been... 2821 01:51:50,700 --> 01:51:51,440 What's going on here? 2822 01:51:51,540 --> 01:51:52,860 Have you got the image or what? 2823 01:51:53,820 --> 01:51:54,500 It's here, 2824 01:51:54,500 --> 01:51:54,800 Tom, 2825 01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:55,380 it's about to, 2826 01:51:55,380 --> 01:51:56,660 I'm about to drop it live here, 2827 01:51:56,740 --> 01:51:57,320 so this is 2828 01:51:57,320 --> 01:51:59,840 definitive proof 2829 01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:00,960 that Noel Kelly 2830 01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:03,020 was jacking the style 2831 01:52:03,020 --> 01:52:03,840 of Tommy, 2832 01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:04,480 my uncle, 2833 01:52:04,740 --> 01:52:07,140 and trying to get away with that. 2834 01:52:07,500 --> 01:52:08,760 And not only that, 2835 01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:11,060 that if you put Brian Turley's face 2836 01:52:11,060 --> 01:52:12,780 on Noel Kelly's head, 2837 01:52:12,920 --> 01:52:13,720 then it's, 2838 01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:15,200 it's even more sluggish, 2839 01:52:15,340 --> 01:52:16,660 it's even more sluggish 2840 01:52:16,660 --> 01:52:17,840 than you slug. 2841 01:52:18,260 --> 01:52:19,340 In relation to... 2842 01:52:19,340 --> 01:52:20,120 I don't believe it. 2843 01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:21,740 I won't believe until I see it. 2844 01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:22,540 Completely. 2845 01:52:23,060 --> 01:52:24,560 And does it not take two to tango, 2846 01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:25,340 Mr. Kelly? 2847 01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:27,760 But we were just following process. 2848 01:52:27,980 --> 01:52:29,020 We were just working 2849 01:52:29,020 --> 01:52:30,240 under instructions for more to you. 2850 01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:31,940 Okay, so does it suit you 2851 01:52:31,940 --> 01:52:34,320 and your client to keep things... 2852 01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:35,160 There we have it, look. 2853 01:52:35,460 --> 01:52:37,120 I don't want to scare anyone. 2854 01:52:38,220 --> 01:52:39,680 But it starts here. 2855 01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:41,580 And we work our way up. 2856 01:52:41,580 --> 01:52:43,200 When things become difficult, 2857 01:52:43,420 --> 01:52:43,580 you can... 2858 01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:45,880 We work our way up here. 2859 01:52:46,740 --> 01:52:47,500 I think that's what's happening. 2860 01:52:47,780 --> 01:52:48,320 That's what's happened. 2861 01:52:49,180 --> 01:52:49,920 Look at that. 2862 01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:51,160 That's pure Tommy slug 2863 01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:52,180 if ever I've seen it. 2864 01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:55,280 Absolute style, jackal. 2865 01:52:56,980 --> 01:52:57,880 Let's see the face. 2866 01:52:59,060 --> 01:52:59,960 He doesn't look as good 2867 01:52:59,960 --> 01:53:01,200 as me in the face, though, does he? 2868 01:53:02,780 --> 01:53:03,820 We've yet to see it. 2869 01:53:03,860 --> 01:53:04,460 Let's have a look. 2870 01:53:06,980 --> 01:53:08,000 Actually, we might just get 2871 01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:09,080 a bit of ominous music 2872 01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:09,900 for this as well, 2873 01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:10,900 if we can. 2874 01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:14,220 The top ten, three, 2875 01:53:14,220 --> 01:53:16,060 that's all. 2876 01:53:16,940 --> 01:53:17,860 There's another agent 2877 01:53:17,860 --> 01:53:19,480 that represents the other seven. 2878 01:53:20,740 --> 01:53:22,100 So, in relation to the 2879 01:53:22,100 --> 01:53:23,480 raising of the invoices 2880 01:53:23,480 --> 01:53:25,700 described for consultancy fees, 2881 01:53:25,980 --> 01:53:27,180 I just want to clear up this matter. 2882 01:53:27,940 --> 01:53:28,780 You stated previously 2883 01:53:28,780 --> 01:53:29,800 that Geraldine O'Leary 2884 01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:31,100 and RT were responsible. 2885 01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:31,860 Yes. 2886 01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:33,080 How is that? 2887 01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:35,640 Because it was under instruction 2888 01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:36,320 from them. 2889 01:53:36,380 --> 01:53:37,620 He's got a phone and a wallet. 2890 01:53:37,940 --> 01:53:38,580 Because, again, 2891 01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:40,260 the relationship with RT is with... 2892 01:53:40,260 --> 01:53:40,920 It's with Rena. 2893 01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:42,100 We have nothing to do with Rena. 2894 01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:43,720 So, Mr. Kelly, 2895 01:53:43,940 --> 01:53:45,540 you were following instruction. 2896 01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:46,060 Yes. 2897 01:53:46,140 --> 01:53:46,440 Therefore, 2898 01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:50,460 did you collude with RT in a falsehood 2899 01:53:50,460 --> 01:53:52,860 of concealment of them invoices 2900 01:53:52,860 --> 01:53:55,540 by labelling them consultancy fees? 2901 01:53:57,400 --> 01:53:58,700 That's a straightforward question, 2902 01:53:58,920 --> 01:53:59,320 Mr. Kelly. 2903 01:54:00,440 --> 01:54:01,740 I'm sorry, could you just... 2904 01:54:02,820 --> 01:54:04,160 Are you doing a bit of barter, 2905 01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:04,660 I call them? 2906 01:54:04,700 --> 01:54:04,920 Yes. 2907 01:54:05,180 --> 01:54:05,380 Okay. 2908 01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:06,560 So, therefore, 2909 01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:10,120 did you collude with RT in a falsehood 2910 01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:11,640 of concealment 2911 01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:13,620 by describing them invoices for... 2912 01:54:13,620 --> 01:54:14,580 Are you doing a bit of video? 2913 01:54:15,580 --> 01:54:17,740 Um, I said that... 2914 01:54:17,740 --> 01:54:18,500 Are you doing a bit of... 2915 01:54:18,500 --> 01:54:18,740 Are you doing a bit of... 2916 01:54:18,740 --> 01:54:20,380 ...in secret to suppress... 2917 01:54:20,380 --> 01:54:21,540 Are you doing a bit of barter, 2918 01:54:21,660 --> 01:54:21,980 I call them? 2919 01:54:21,980 --> 01:54:23,280 ...in secret to county practices? 2920 01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:24,480 And we certainly did... 2921 01:54:24,480 --> 01:54:25,960 Are you doing a bit of reno-ization, 2922 01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:26,320 I'm saying? 2923 01:54:26,700 --> 01:54:28,080 But you followed instructions... 2924 01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:29,420 Are you doing a bit of reno, yeah? 2925 01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:31,380 Larve bells were never... 2926 01:54:31,380 --> 01:54:32,000 That's my thing. 2927 01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:32,840 ...amongst you, 2928 01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:34,460 representing your client 2929 01:54:34,460 --> 01:54:35,420 in relation to these invoices. 2930 01:54:35,420 --> 01:54:35,640 Sure. 2931 01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:36,760 Again, as I said, 2932 01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:38,640 we're a small company of eight people. 2933 01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:40,600 They've three... 2934 01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:40,960 They're... 2935 01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:41,860 They're massive. 2936 01:54:41,860 --> 01:54:42,800 What do you think of that, Tom? 2937 01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:43,680 They've auditors, 2938 01:54:43,820 --> 01:54:44,360 they've lawyers. 2939 01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:45,420 But just in relation to... 2940 01:54:45,420 --> 01:54:47,260 I'm shocked, I'm scared, 2941 01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:49,580 I don't know what to really make of that, 2942 01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:50,900 but it was very... 2943 01:54:50,900 --> 01:54:51,600 It was a trip. 2944 01:54:52,220 --> 01:54:53,680 I'd rather not go on it again, 2945 01:54:53,780 --> 01:54:54,480 if you don't mind. 2946 01:54:54,620 --> 01:54:55,840 Defrauding the taxpayer. 2947 01:54:56,140 --> 01:54:58,220 I'm afraid we will have to say it once more. 2948 01:54:58,600 --> 01:54:59,100 I didn't... 2949 01:54:59,100 --> 01:55:00,980 I didn't even hear that he'd said that again. 2950 01:55:01,360 --> 01:55:03,800 Do you still see these invoices 2951 01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:05,800 related to consultancy fees? 2952 01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:08,920 These invoices were as instructed. 2953 01:55:09,420 --> 01:55:10,160 As instructed. 2954 01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:11,160 And what were they for? 2955 01:55:11,260 --> 01:55:11,980 What was the nature of it? 2956 01:55:11,980 --> 01:55:13,360 They were four... 2957 01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:14,440 Three... 2958 01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:15,720 Minimum of three... 2959 01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:16,300 Late, late shows. 2960 01:55:16,300 --> 01:55:18,400 Did they describe what they were intended for? 2961 01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:19,600 They were... 2962 01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:20,280 So... 2963 01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:22,180 Omar is saying, 2964 01:55:22,300 --> 01:55:22,960 get the hat. 2965 01:55:23,060 --> 01:55:23,780 I wonder if... 2966 01:55:23,780 --> 01:55:25,060 If I have the hat, 2967 01:55:25,180 --> 01:55:26,440 then we're fucking laughing. 2968 01:55:26,580 --> 01:55:27,960 Do you accept the lack 2969 01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:29,260 of complete credibility 2970 01:55:29,260 --> 01:55:30,600 to invoice a company 2971 01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:32,440 you've never heard of 2972 01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:33,520 in a different country 2973 01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:34,160 for work 2974 01:55:34,160 --> 01:55:36,200 undertaken here in Dublin? 2975 01:55:36,260 --> 01:55:37,660 I think the lack of credibility 2976 01:55:37,660 --> 01:55:39,120 is on RT's side. 2977 01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:40,380 On RT's side? 2978 01:55:40,420 --> 01:55:40,640 Definitely. 2979 01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:42,260 So how many other deals 2980 01:55:42,260 --> 01:55:43,040 were done with RT, 2981 01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:44,680 with your business, 2982 01:55:44,780 --> 01:55:45,140 Mr Kelly, 2983 01:55:45,220 --> 01:55:45,720 when asked 2984 01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:48,380 to use a company from abroad 2985 01:55:48,380 --> 01:55:49,980 that you've never heard of before? 2986 01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:50,900 This... 2987 01:55:50,900 --> 01:55:52,660 The road shows, 2988 01:55:52,720 --> 01:55:53,520 the road shows 2989 01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:54,460 were unique 2990 01:55:54,460 --> 01:55:55,300 because it was 2991 01:55:55,300 --> 01:55:56,220 late, late, 2992 01:55:56,340 --> 01:55:56,660 Ryan, 2993 01:55:56,860 --> 01:55:57,180 Renault, 2994 01:55:57,340 --> 01:55:57,740 RTE. 2995 01:55:57,740 --> 01:55:59,860 Mr Kelly. 2996 01:55:59,860 --> 01:55:59,860 Mr Kelly, 2997 01:55:59,980 --> 01:56:01,400 you're not taking any responsibility 2998 01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:02,720 for the oversight here 2999 01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:04,580 of Mr Toberti's earnings, 3000 01:56:04,940 --> 01:56:05,320 are you? 3001 01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:07,540 In relation to what we've actually 3002 01:56:07,540 --> 01:56:10,040 been told in this committee room? 3003 01:56:10,420 --> 01:56:11,580 I don't understand what you mean 3004 01:56:11,580 --> 01:56:12,200 by oversight of earnings. 3005 01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:13,840 Are you taking any responsibility 3006 01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:15,480 in relation to the oversight 3007 01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:17,060 of the dealings with Mr Toberti 3008 01:56:17,060 --> 01:56:18,160 in relation to these invoices? 3009 01:56:18,420 --> 01:56:20,400 Trying to get this snapback going, 3010 01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:21,200 sorry, one sec. 3011 01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:22,160 You followed instruction 3012 01:56:22,160 --> 01:56:23,260 from RTE. 3013 01:56:23,420 --> 01:56:23,700 Yeah, yeah. 3014 01:56:24,540 --> 01:56:26,340 But your responsibility 3015 01:56:26,340 --> 01:56:27,380 is on behalf of your client. 3016 01:56:27,500 --> 01:56:28,620 Did you not test 3017 01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:30,800 each of the steps 3018 01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:31,680 that were required? 3019 01:56:31,980 --> 01:56:32,660 My responsibility 3020 01:56:32,660 --> 01:56:33,420 is absolutely 3021 01:56:33,420 --> 01:56:34,500 on my client's behalf 3022 01:56:34,500 --> 01:56:35,980 and that's what we do. 3023 01:56:37,300 --> 01:56:38,140 Mr Toberti, 3024 01:56:38,240 --> 01:56:39,280 you said in your statement 3025 01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:40,000 and you emphasised 3026 01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:41,260 the importance of truth, 3027 01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:42,700 the full truth, 3028 01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:44,700 and you stated 3029 01:56:44,700 --> 01:56:45,700 that the full truth 3030 01:56:45,700 --> 01:56:46,520 was concealed. 3031 01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:47,640 Okay? 3032 01:56:48,260 --> 01:56:49,260 So in your opinion, 3033 01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:50,960 and after what we've listened to 3034 01:56:50,960 --> 01:56:51,780 from Mr Kelly, 3035 01:56:52,340 --> 01:56:52,980 do you believe, 3036 01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:56,020 who do you believe 3037 01:56:56,020 --> 01:56:56,780 was responsible 3038 01:56:56,780 --> 01:56:58,440 for concealing the truth? 3039 01:57:00,020 --> 01:57:00,960 I believe 3040 01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:03,160 the person sitting to my left 3041 01:57:03,160 --> 01:57:05,060 and what he tells me, 3042 01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:05,620 I believe. 3043 01:57:05,980 --> 01:57:07,300 And what he's told you, 3044 01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:08,120 I believe. 3045 01:57:09,900 --> 01:57:10,840 In your opinion, 3046 01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:11,860 do you think your agent 3047 01:57:11,860 --> 01:57:13,000 colluded with RTE 3048 01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:14,160 to conceal these payments? 3049 01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:14,680 No. 3050 01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:16,660 I think my agent did 3051 01:57:16,660 --> 01:57:18,100 what he was instructed 3052 01:57:18,100 --> 01:57:18,880 to do by RTE. 3053 01:57:20,060 --> 01:57:20,900 Mr Toberti, 3054 01:57:20,940 --> 01:57:21,640 your earnings went up 3055 01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:23,840 by 75,000 euros in 2020, 3056 01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:25,520 credited from Reynolds, 3057 01:57:26,160 --> 01:57:26,960 on a side deal, 3058 01:57:27,100 --> 01:57:27,760 and then you received 3059 01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:29,460 another 150,000 euros 3060 01:57:29,460 --> 01:57:30,440 in 2022, 3061 01:57:31,180 --> 01:57:31,660 underwritten 3062 01:57:31,660 --> 01:57:33,500 at the request 3063 01:57:33,500 --> 01:57:35,380 by RTE. 3064 01:57:35,540 --> 01:57:35,740 Yes. 3065 01:57:36,460 --> 01:57:36,700 So, 3066 01:57:37,540 --> 01:57:39,020 am I missing something here? 3067 01:57:39,620 --> 01:57:40,460 The Reynolds... 3068 01:57:40,460 --> 01:57:41,500 At a time... 3069 01:57:41,500 --> 01:57:42,660 The Reno Roadshow, 3070 01:57:42,780 --> 01:57:43,560 thank you very much. 3071 01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:45,920 And Quilted Bishop, 3072 01:57:46,060 --> 01:57:46,640 thank you very much. 3073 01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:46,780 When we were in the middle 3074 01:57:46,780 --> 01:57:47,440 of a pandemic, 3075 01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:49,440 where you had taken 3076 01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:50,600 a 20% pay cut 3077 01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:51,460 on your contract, 3078 01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:52,260 which was signed 3079 01:57:52,260 --> 01:57:53,700 the 1st of April, 3080 01:57:54,060 --> 01:57:54,240 Yes. 3081 01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:56,200 and that these side deals 3082 01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:57,040 were undertaken 3083 01:57:57,040 --> 01:57:58,920 at a time where 3084 01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:00,460 the country was going through 3085 01:58:00,460 --> 01:58:03,200 huge difficulty. 3086 01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:03,700 Yes. 3087 01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:04,900 and you feel that 3088 01:58:04,900 --> 01:58:06,360 these payments 3089 01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:07,920 should not have been 3090 01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:09,200 put into the public domain. 3091 01:58:09,460 --> 01:58:11,800 I was under the understanding 3092 01:58:11,800 --> 01:58:12,520 that the payments 3093 01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:13,240 had come from Renault, 3094 01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:14,940 a very successful 3095 01:58:14,940 --> 01:58:15,680 commercial company, 3096 01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:16,680 so I didn't feel 3097 01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:18,080 that it was an RTE situation. 3098 01:58:18,780 --> 01:58:19,460 Separate contract. 3099 01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:20,340 Even though... 3100 01:58:20,340 --> 01:58:20,800 A separate contract. 3101 01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:21,380 Separate two payments. 3102 01:58:21,380 --> 01:58:22,200 Even though... 3103 01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:23,100 The payments had come 3104 01:58:23,100 --> 01:58:24,800 from Renault... 3105 01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:26,380 Drive the new 3106 01:58:26,380 --> 01:58:28,220 Renault tripartide tonight. 3107 01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:32,440 Starting at 75,000 euros 3108 01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:33,940 in public purse money. 3109 01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:34,720 Yeah. 3110 01:58:35,140 --> 01:58:35,880 That's the misunderstanding. 3111 01:58:35,980 --> 01:58:36,800 And that's the misunderstanding. 3112 01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:38,920 It was a misunderstanding. 3113 01:58:39,460 --> 01:58:40,560 ...instruction at RTE assets 3114 01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:42,060 to send out the other ones 3115 01:58:42,060 --> 01:58:43,300 and we were paid by assets. 3116 01:58:43,500 --> 01:58:44,140 So can I ask again, 3117 01:58:44,220 --> 01:58:45,700 who suggested the side deal? 3118 01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:47,620 That's very much to side deal. 3119 01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:48,720 Quilted Bishop, 3120 01:58:49,020 --> 01:58:50,300 the Renault Roadshow. 3121 01:58:50,720 --> 01:58:51,640 Thank you very much. 3122 01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:52,640 Quilted Bishop 3123 01:58:52,640 --> 01:58:54,080 for a silky liaison. 3124 01:58:54,680 --> 01:58:56,560 None other than Stockton Rush 3125 01:58:56,560 --> 01:58:58,360 and 007, 3126 01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:00,220 Pierce Brosnan was slugged. 3127 01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:01,960 If the sponsor changed. 3128 01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:03,500 That's all. 3129 01:59:04,340 --> 01:59:05,220 We never assumed RTE 3130 01:59:05,220 --> 01:59:05,980 would be paying for anything. 3131 01:59:06,380 --> 01:59:07,300 If the sponsor changed, 3132 01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:08,120 that we'd be able 3133 01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:09,080 to re-engage with the sponsor. 3134 01:59:09,180 --> 01:59:10,020 The relationship with the sponsors 3135 01:59:10,020 --> 01:59:10,540 with RTE. 3136 01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:11,780 We'd know... 3137 01:59:11,780 --> 01:59:12,340 You're not allowed... 3138 01:59:12,340 --> 01:59:13,580 We weren't allowed near it. 3139 01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:14,340 We have never worked 3140 01:59:14,340 --> 01:59:14,900 with Renault before. 3141 01:59:14,960 --> 01:59:15,520 We only worked with them 3142 01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:17,460 on this, so... 3143 01:59:17,460 --> 01:59:18,300 At a time, 3144 01:59:18,820 --> 01:59:19,360 Mr. Tuberty, 3145 01:59:19,460 --> 01:59:20,120 you look for 3146 01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:21,500 written assurances 3147 01:59:21,500 --> 01:59:24,260 in relation to 3148 01:59:24,260 --> 01:59:25,480 any further pay cuts 3149 01:59:25,480 --> 01:59:26,980 in your 2020 contract. 3150 01:59:29,460 --> 01:59:30,680 Thank you very much there. 3151 01:59:30,680 --> 01:59:32,720 Steve and Alex Joyce, 3152 01:59:32,720 --> 01:59:33,680 thank you very much. 3153 01:59:34,420 --> 01:59:35,640 No, he didn't. 3154 01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:36,040 I did. 3155 01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:36,880 I did. 3156 01:59:37,680 --> 01:59:38,720 Because having taken 3157 01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:40,500 105,000 euros per year 3158 01:59:40,500 --> 01:59:41,120 by five, 3159 01:59:41,300 --> 01:59:41,900 525, 3160 01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:43,200 and not accepting 3161 01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:44,260 the 120,000 3162 01:59:44,260 --> 01:59:46,300 that he was due 3163 01:59:46,300 --> 01:59:46,980 in contract. 3164 01:59:47,940 --> 01:59:48,480 I just said, 3165 01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:48,720 look, 3166 01:59:49,100 --> 01:59:49,620 you cannot... 3167 01:59:49,620 --> 01:59:50,160 When is a contract 3168 01:59:50,160 --> 01:59:50,560 a contract? 3169 01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:51,640 A contract is only a contract 3170 01:59:51,640 --> 01:59:52,900 when it's actually agreed 3171 01:59:52,900 --> 01:59:53,880 and honoured 3172 01:59:53,880 --> 01:59:54,720 on both sides. 3173 01:59:55,460 --> 01:59:57,020 RTE claim that 3174 01:59:57,020 --> 01:59:58,480 they've completely 3175 01:59:58,480 --> 01:59:59,600 rejected the claim 3176 01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:01,280 of underwriting 3177 02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:02,780 the Renault 3178 02:00:02,780 --> 02:00:03,940 tripartide agreement. 3179 02:00:05,400 --> 02:00:07,000 Do you accept 3180 02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:08,360 what they say 3181 02:00:08,360 --> 02:00:09,220 in relation to that? 3182 02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:10,120 I wonder, 3183 02:00:10,280 --> 02:00:11,240 could you fucking 3184 02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:12,340 crop that photograph 3185 02:00:12,340 --> 02:00:13,780 and put it on him 3186 02:00:13,780 --> 02:00:15,580 there in the thing? 3187 02:00:15,780 --> 02:00:15,860 Sorry. 3188 02:00:16,200 --> 02:00:16,700 Have a look. 3189 02:00:16,760 --> 02:00:17,800 Sorry, page 10. 3190 02:00:17,880 --> 02:00:18,440 Sorry, one sec. 3191 02:00:18,500 --> 02:00:19,440 I'll just try and crop this. 3192 02:00:20,440 --> 02:00:22,880 And in it it says... 3193 02:00:22,880 --> 02:00:23,600 Add that. 3194 02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:26,140 Crop, crop, crop, crop. 3195 02:00:26,240 --> 02:00:26,800 How do you do that? 3196 02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:28,420 We made good progress 3197 02:00:28,420 --> 02:00:30,200 on what the commercial agreement 3198 02:00:30,200 --> 02:00:30,640 would be. 3199 02:00:30,660 --> 02:00:31,340 Stockton Rush. 3200 02:00:31,420 --> 02:00:32,020 Thank you very much. 3201 02:00:32,020 --> 02:00:32,180 We have to agree 3202 02:00:32,180 --> 02:00:33,020 to one in Dublin, 3203 02:00:33,480 --> 02:00:34,140 two outside Dublin. 3204 02:00:34,240 --> 02:00:34,960 Again, all directed 3205 02:00:34,960 --> 02:00:36,040 from RTE. 3206 02:00:36,360 --> 02:00:37,280 What date is on that, 3207 02:00:37,380 --> 02:00:37,780 Mr. Kelly? 3208 02:00:38,180 --> 02:00:39,760 So, that was 3209 02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:41,120 28th of February, 2020. 3210 02:00:41,900 --> 02:00:42,120 Which are... 3211 02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:42,640 So that was... 3212 02:00:42,640 --> 02:00:44,540 Sorry, which are RTE-led 3213 02:00:44,540 --> 02:00:45,820 late, late show events. 3214 02:00:46,200 --> 02:00:46,940 We can provide you 3215 02:00:46,940 --> 02:00:47,600 with a side letter 3216 02:00:47,600 --> 02:00:48,580 to underwrite this fee 3217 02:00:48,580 --> 02:00:48,860 for the... 3218 02:00:48,860 --> 02:00:50,080 Misunderstanding. 3219 02:00:50,220 --> 02:00:51,080 Thank you very much. 3220 02:00:51,320 --> 02:00:52,180 Wasn't about... 3221 02:00:52,180 --> 02:00:53,020 We never... 3222 02:00:53,020 --> 02:00:54,460 Like, how would we know 3223 02:00:54,460 --> 02:00:55,360 RTE was going to be paying for it? 3224 02:00:55,380 --> 02:00:56,200 What the letter was about 3225 02:00:56,200 --> 02:00:57,440 was if the contractor... 3226 02:00:57,440 --> 02:00:57,920 If the... 3227 02:00:57,920 --> 02:00:59,880 Sorry, if the sponsor changed, 3228 02:01:00,740 --> 02:01:02,800 that we would be able 3229 02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:03,700 to work with you, the sponsor. 3230 02:01:03,900 --> 02:01:04,120 Thank you. 3231 02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:04,960 Deputy McArlow. 3232 02:01:06,240 --> 02:01:07,100 Thank you very much, 3233 02:01:07,240 --> 02:01:07,820 Cahirlock, 3234 02:01:07,880 --> 02:01:08,440 and to the witnesses. 3235 02:01:08,780 --> 02:01:09,040 And look, 3236 02:01:09,200 --> 02:01:10,500 I should start from the output 3237 02:01:10,500 --> 02:01:10,960 by saying 3238 02:01:10,960 --> 02:01:12,940 we have a very clear remit 3239 02:01:12,940 --> 02:01:13,960 of the Public Council Committee 3240 02:01:13,960 --> 02:01:14,800 to get to the bottom 3241 02:01:14,800 --> 02:01:15,640 of what's happening. 3242 02:01:15,900 --> 02:01:16,800 And certainly your presence 3243 02:01:16,800 --> 02:01:17,360 here today 3244 02:01:17,360 --> 02:01:18,420 is very welcome. 3245 02:01:18,640 --> 02:01:20,140 you've provided additional information 3246 02:01:20,140 --> 02:01:22,340 and I thank you for that. 3247 02:01:22,940 --> 02:01:23,940 I also want to note, 3248 02:01:24,100 --> 02:01:24,620 Mr. Tuberdee, 3249 02:01:24,660 --> 02:01:26,980 that in your opening statement 3250 02:01:26,980 --> 02:01:28,260 you say you have great credibility 3251 02:01:28,260 --> 02:01:29,300 or you have great respect 3252 02:01:29,300 --> 02:01:30,560 for the institutions 3253 02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:31,200 of this house. 3254 02:01:31,540 --> 02:01:32,500 And I think that statement 3255 02:01:32,500 --> 02:01:33,320 has great credibility. 3256 02:01:33,600 --> 02:01:34,180 I've listened to you 3257 02:01:34,180 --> 02:01:35,160 for a long, long time 3258 02:01:35,160 --> 02:01:37,920 and I appreciate those comments. 3259 02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:38,420 It's important. 3260 02:01:38,880 --> 02:01:40,160 The difficulty that we have 3261 02:01:40,160 --> 02:01:40,960 is that 3262 02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:43,060 for whatever reason, 3263 02:01:43,520 --> 02:01:44,560 something happened here. 3264 02:01:45,120 --> 02:01:45,720 And essentially, 3265 02:01:46,220 --> 02:01:47,580 RTE reduced its income 3266 02:01:47,580 --> 02:01:48,920 by 75,000 euro 3267 02:01:48,920 --> 02:01:51,340 and in turn, 3268 02:01:51,500 --> 02:01:53,140 75,000 euro was paid 3269 02:01:53,140 --> 02:01:54,460 to total productions. 3270 02:01:54,840 --> 02:01:55,080 Total. 3271 02:01:57,080 --> 02:01:57,560 Yeah, 3272 02:01:57,720 --> 02:01:58,140 it was paid 3273 02:01:58,140 --> 02:01:59,060 to total productions, 3274 02:01:59,480 --> 02:02:00,720 albeit for additional duties 3275 02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:01,440 on your behalf. 3276 02:02:02,060 --> 02:02:02,220 So, 3277 02:02:02,740 --> 02:02:04,400 who knew what 3278 02:02:04,400 --> 02:02:04,920 and when 3279 02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:05,860 is really important 3280 02:02:05,860 --> 02:02:07,360 because that is essentially 3281 02:02:07,360 --> 02:02:07,560 what happened. 3282 02:02:07,560 --> 02:02:07,780 Sorry, 3283 02:02:07,880 --> 02:02:08,440 we just need 3284 02:02:08,440 --> 02:02:09,800 a shot of Noel, 3285 02:02:09,960 --> 02:02:10,060 please. 3286 02:02:11,320 --> 02:02:11,940 In return, 3287 02:02:12,180 --> 02:02:13,600 anyone from the Oireachtas there, 3288 02:02:13,740 --> 02:02:14,840 does anyone in the Oireachtas 3289 02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:15,600 who's controlling 3290 02:02:15,600 --> 02:02:16,480 the vision mixer 3291 02:02:16,480 --> 02:02:17,080 in there, 3292 02:02:17,160 --> 02:02:17,880 can you just give us 3293 02:02:17,880 --> 02:02:19,660 a nice mid-shot 3294 02:02:19,660 --> 02:02:20,760 of Noel Kelly, 3295 02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:21,220 please, 3296 02:02:21,360 --> 02:02:23,200 so we can put these 3297 02:02:23,200 --> 02:02:25,400 elements on there. 3298 02:02:26,680 --> 02:02:27,680 I'm obsessed with this. 3299 02:02:27,680 --> 02:02:29,740 And I accept that. 3300 02:02:30,020 --> 02:02:30,840 But would you accept 3301 02:02:30,840 --> 02:02:32,520 that this arrangement 3302 02:02:32,520 --> 02:02:33,200 with RTE 3303 02:02:33,200 --> 02:02:35,440 is not like 3304 02:02:35,440 --> 02:02:36,720 work you've gathered 3305 02:02:36,720 --> 02:02:37,800 from other companies 3306 02:02:37,800 --> 02:02:38,440 like the BBC 3307 02:02:38,440 --> 02:02:38,960 and so on. 3308 02:02:39,200 --> 02:02:39,700 In essence, 3309 02:02:40,020 --> 02:02:41,420 RTE facilitated it, 3310 02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:42,260 it introduced it 3311 02:02:42,260 --> 02:02:43,040 to their clients. 3312 02:02:43,360 --> 02:02:43,820 I want to say 3313 02:02:43,820 --> 02:02:44,340 a big thanks 3314 02:02:44,340 --> 02:02:46,260 to Renault Apartheid deal, 3315 02:02:47,140 --> 02:02:48,240 Steve and Alex Joyce, 3316 02:02:48,680 --> 02:02:50,340 Stockton Rush Engineering 3317 02:02:50,340 --> 02:02:52,200 and Misunderstanding. 3318 02:02:52,320 --> 02:02:52,980 Thank you very much. 3319 02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:54,500 ...paid for the staging 3320 02:02:54,500 --> 02:02:55,100 and the catering 3321 02:02:55,100 --> 02:02:55,500 and so on. 3322 02:02:55,780 --> 02:02:55,920 So, 3323 02:02:56,060 --> 02:02:56,900 it's not fair 3324 02:02:56,900 --> 02:02:58,640 to compare this contract 3325 02:02:58,640 --> 02:02:59,740 with other contracts 3326 02:02:59,740 --> 02:03:00,300 that you've gained 3327 02:03:00,300 --> 02:03:01,000 entirely separately. 3328 02:03:01,120 --> 02:03:02,060 Would you accept that? 3329 02:03:02,180 --> 02:03:02,320 Yeah, 3330 02:03:02,360 --> 02:03:03,080 that's a fair observation. 3331 02:03:03,180 --> 02:03:03,360 Yeah, 3332 02:03:03,400 --> 02:03:03,620 okay. 3333 02:03:04,120 --> 02:03:04,440 And so, 3334 02:03:04,520 --> 02:03:05,360 the suggestion is 3335 02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:06,460 is that RTE, 3336 02:03:06,460 --> 02:03:08,440 created this arrangement 3337 02:03:08,440 --> 02:03:10,280 in order to bolster 3338 02:03:10,280 --> 02:03:10,840 your income. 3339 02:03:12,500 --> 02:03:14,200 Do you accept that? 3340 02:03:14,200 --> 02:03:14,780 I understand why 3341 02:03:14,780 --> 02:03:15,360 you'd say that 3342 02:03:15,360 --> 02:03:16,560 but I can't accept it 3343 02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:17,360 as a matter of fact 3344 02:03:17,360 --> 02:03:18,980 because I think it is, 3345 02:03:19,060 --> 02:03:19,740 is it fair to say 3346 02:03:19,740 --> 02:03:20,960 that we would, 3347 02:03:21,500 --> 02:03:22,580 as an independent contractor, 3348 02:03:22,780 --> 02:03:24,340 you do different jobs 3349 02:03:24,340 --> 02:03:25,140 for different companies. 3350 02:03:25,140 --> 02:03:25,620 like, 3351 02:03:25,620 --> 02:03:26,460 for example, 3352 02:03:26,800 --> 02:03:27,880 I've written a couple of books 3353 02:03:27,880 --> 02:03:28,120 with, 3354 02:03:28,220 --> 02:03:28,480 albeit, 3355 02:03:29,060 --> 02:03:29,280 you know, 3356 02:03:29,340 --> 02:03:30,620 a couple of kids' books 3357 02:03:30,620 --> 02:03:31,100 that I don't know 3358 02:03:31,100 --> 02:03:32,540 and I would have done, 3359 02:03:32,820 --> 02:03:33,480 as Noel has said, 3360 02:03:33,540 --> 02:03:34,560 work in the BBC before. 3361 02:03:34,820 --> 02:03:35,920 That's an independent contractor. 3362 02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:36,200 Yeah, 3363 02:03:36,200 --> 02:03:37,720 but RTE wouldn't have paid 3364 02:03:37,720 --> 02:03:38,480 for the catering 3365 02:03:38,480 --> 02:03:40,040 at the launch of those events. 3366 02:03:40,460 --> 02:03:41,700 They wouldn't have provided staff. 3367 02:03:41,840 --> 02:03:43,820 I understand the nuance 3368 02:03:43,820 --> 02:03:44,160 of your point. 3369 02:03:44,160 --> 02:03:44,300 Yeah, 3370 02:03:44,520 --> 02:03:45,240 so I think it's, 3371 02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:46,880 it's a fair point you make 3372 02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:48,060 about being an independent contractor, 3373 02:03:48,160 --> 02:03:49,380 but it's not necessarily 3374 02:03:49,380 --> 02:03:50,460 a relevant point to this 3375 02:03:50,460 --> 02:03:52,200 because this was an arrangement 3376 02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:53,420 created by RTE 3377 02:03:53,420 --> 02:03:55,760 at their behest, 3378 02:03:55,900 --> 02:03:57,200 according to your evidence, 3379 02:03:57,640 --> 02:03:59,000 that created by RTE 3380 02:03:59,000 --> 02:04:00,680 and the net effect of that 3381 02:04:00,680 --> 02:04:02,200 was the taxpayer lost 3382 02:04:02,200 --> 02:04:04,620 €75,000 and you gained it. 3383 02:04:05,260 --> 02:04:05,580 Well, 3384 02:04:05,800 --> 02:04:06,080 again, 3385 02:04:06,340 --> 02:04:07,180 this is something, 3386 02:04:07,340 --> 02:04:07,860 this is... 3387 02:04:07,860 --> 02:04:08,920 Can I address the statement? 3388 02:04:08,920 --> 02:04:09,380 Whether you knew 3389 02:04:09,380 --> 02:04:10,020 that was happening or not, 3390 02:04:10,060 --> 02:04:10,500 it's a different question. 3391 02:04:10,500 --> 02:04:10,920 Oh, I agree. 3392 02:04:10,940 --> 02:04:11,920 That is what's happened. 3393 02:04:12,180 --> 02:04:13,160 If I can address 3394 02:04:13,160 --> 02:04:13,820 the first question 3395 02:04:13,820 --> 02:04:14,640 in relation to the stating, 3396 02:04:15,480 --> 02:04:16,420 as the sponsor-related show, 3397 02:04:16,500 --> 02:04:17,040 RTE were perhaps 3398 02:04:17,040 --> 02:04:18,040 the most important sponsor 3399 02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:20,120 in all sponsors, 3400 02:04:20,640 --> 02:04:21,900 and the fee paid 3401 02:04:21,900 --> 02:04:22,840 with the sponsor-related show 3402 02:04:22,840 --> 02:04:23,220 would dwarf 3403 02:04:23,220 --> 02:04:23,940 any other sponsorship 3404 02:04:23,940 --> 02:04:24,560 that they'd had. 3405 02:04:25,260 --> 02:04:26,120 RTE was focused 3406 02:04:26,120 --> 02:04:27,060 on keeping RTE happy, 3407 02:04:27,180 --> 02:04:27,920 maximising the potential 3408 02:04:27,920 --> 02:04:28,440 of their investment 3409 02:04:28,440 --> 02:04:29,320 on the late, late show. 3410 02:04:29,980 --> 02:04:30,780 I think Geraldine Alisa, 3411 02:04:30,880 --> 02:04:31,240 when she was here 3412 02:04:31,240 --> 02:04:31,680 the other week, 3413 02:04:31,840 --> 02:04:33,120 that certainly during COVID, 3414 02:04:33,440 --> 02:04:34,140 there was tickets 3415 02:04:34,140 --> 02:04:34,700 for the audience, 3416 02:04:34,800 --> 02:04:35,240 there had no tickets 3417 02:04:35,240 --> 02:04:35,700 for the audience, 3418 02:04:35,820 --> 02:04:36,340 there's a green room, 3419 02:04:36,380 --> 02:04:37,040 there's no green room, 3420 02:04:37,120 --> 02:04:37,660 so they were trying to... 3421 02:04:37,660 --> 02:04:37,860 Skelly, 3422 02:04:38,260 --> 02:04:38,980 you're way off point. 3423 02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:41,080 No, I'm trying to keep them. 3424 02:04:41,080 --> 02:04:41,620 The point is very simple 3425 02:04:41,620 --> 02:04:42,240 that I put Mr. Ruppert. 3426 02:04:42,240 --> 02:04:43,860 I think what we'll do 3427 02:04:43,860 --> 02:04:45,240 is we'll just keep him there. 3428 02:04:45,380 --> 02:04:46,660 Sorry, that RTE lost 75,000 euros. 3429 02:04:46,660 --> 02:04:48,100 We will just keep him there 3430 02:04:48,100 --> 02:04:49,840 as a kind of lucky talisman 3431 02:04:49,840 --> 02:04:51,160 for the rest of the stream, maybe. 3432 02:04:51,180 --> 02:04:51,180 Mr. Coveney's called, 3433 02:04:51,180 --> 02:04:51,680 the production company 3434 02:04:51,680 --> 02:04:52,860 gained 75,000 3435 02:04:52,860 --> 02:04:54,160 as a result of this tri-party. 3436 02:04:54,160 --> 02:04:56,220 Well, no, I completely disagree with that. 3437 02:04:56,480 --> 02:04:58,080 No, you can't disagree with that 3438 02:04:58,080 --> 02:04:58,980 because that's what actually happened. 3439 02:04:59,000 --> 02:04:59,300 I know. 3440 02:04:59,660 --> 02:05:01,500 And all credit to... 3441 02:05:01,500 --> 02:05:02,260 Please explain. 3442 02:05:04,060 --> 02:05:05,680 Whoever made this. 3443 02:05:06,060 --> 02:05:08,060 All credit to whoever made this 3444 02:05:08,060 --> 02:05:09,160 because I... 3445 02:05:10,160 --> 02:05:11,300 The figure of 225... 3446 02:05:11,300 --> 02:05:13,520 It must have been 15 minutes 3447 02:05:13,520 --> 02:05:16,360 of unbroken... 3448 02:05:16,360 --> 02:05:19,780 ...laster this morning. 3449 02:05:20,000 --> 02:05:21,140 ...because they'd issued a credit note. 3450 02:05:21,200 --> 02:05:23,120 We had no idea about the mission 3451 02:05:23,120 --> 02:05:25,000 which made me want to do this stream. 3452 02:05:25,240 --> 02:05:26,180 And thank you very much 3453 02:05:26,180 --> 02:05:26,980 for whoever did this. 3454 02:05:27,040 --> 02:05:28,360 Let me see the... 3455 02:05:28,360 --> 02:05:32,360 It's from... 3456 02:05:32,360 --> 02:05:33,880 ...Connor Farron. 3457 02:05:35,200 --> 02:05:36,880 And who knew? 3458 02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:39,860 It's a tight Photoshop as well. 3459 02:05:40,160 --> 02:05:42,060 I mean, if you look at Tuberley, 3460 02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:42,860 it's kind of... 3461 02:05:42,860 --> 02:05:43,920 That's completely between Orton and Renau. 3462 02:05:43,980 --> 02:05:44,800 That's great as well. 3463 02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:45,740 We've no knowledge. 3464 02:05:45,740 --> 02:05:46,960 We've no knowledge. 3465 02:05:47,200 --> 02:05:48,440 Our understanding of what they do. 3466 02:05:48,700 --> 02:05:49,480 As you can see, we... 3467 02:05:49,480 --> 02:05:50,460 So I'm thinking that you accepted 3468 02:05:50,460 --> 02:05:51,540 that's the fact of the situation. 3469 02:05:51,620 --> 02:05:53,660 So we've no idea what Renau do. 3470 02:05:53,900 --> 02:05:55,280 In relation to Ryan's contract, 3471 02:05:55,380 --> 02:05:55,720 it was completely accepted. 3472 02:05:55,720 --> 02:05:56,220 Well, Mr. Kelly, 3473 02:05:56,320 --> 02:05:57,840 the crux of the problem is... 3474 02:05:57,840 --> 02:05:58,980 The crux of the problem is 3475 02:05:58,980 --> 02:06:00,220 that that is what actually happened. 3476 02:06:00,500 --> 02:06:01,340 And we need to find out 3477 02:06:01,340 --> 02:06:02,020 who knew that. 3478 02:06:02,380 --> 02:06:03,400 Because it looks like 3479 02:06:03,400 --> 02:06:05,360 there's an attempt to deceive. 3480 02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:06,220 Okay. 3481 02:06:06,380 --> 02:06:08,240 Well, then, if that's the question, 3482 02:06:08,360 --> 02:06:09,260 we were deceived as well. 3483 02:06:09,540 --> 02:06:09,800 Okay. 3484 02:06:09,800 --> 02:06:10,440 We were deceived as well. 3485 02:06:10,540 --> 02:06:10,740 Okay. 3486 02:06:10,900 --> 02:06:12,600 So are you both saying... 3487 02:06:12,600 --> 02:06:13,520 Are you both saying that... 3488 02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:14,620 And it's entirely likely 3489 02:06:14,620 --> 02:06:15,300 that you just don't know. 3490 02:06:15,500 --> 02:06:16,100 Are you both saying 3491 02:06:16,100 --> 02:06:16,940 you were not aware 3492 02:06:16,940 --> 02:06:18,440 that the title-sponsored 3493 02:06:18,440 --> 02:06:19,060 late, late show 3494 02:06:19,060 --> 02:06:20,800 was reducing its sponsorship 3495 02:06:20,800 --> 02:06:21,760 by €75,000? 3496 02:06:21,760 --> 02:06:22,060 No. 3497 02:06:22,360 --> 02:06:22,520 No. 3498 02:06:22,720 --> 02:06:23,620 So that never came up. 3499 02:06:23,720 --> 02:06:24,380 That's not part of it. 3500 02:06:24,460 --> 02:06:25,800 Because the cost-neutral nature 3501 02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:26,240 of the agreement 3502 02:06:26,240 --> 02:06:27,200 is really important. 3503 02:06:27,480 --> 02:06:27,660 Sure. 3504 02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:29,000 Because that's what really 3505 02:06:29,000 --> 02:06:30,240 brings it down to the core. 3506 02:06:30,700 --> 02:06:31,380 That money was taken off. 3507 02:06:31,380 --> 02:06:32,220 See, it's faith, then. 3508 02:06:32,300 --> 02:06:33,300 And both of you are saying 3509 02:06:33,300 --> 02:06:34,080 you've not the book. 3510 02:06:34,180 --> 02:06:34,760 It's really important. 3511 02:06:35,080 --> 02:06:35,280 Sure. 3512 02:06:35,300 --> 02:06:36,600 Because that's what really 3513 02:06:36,600 --> 02:06:37,600 brings it down to the evidence. 3514 02:06:37,780 --> 02:06:39,140 She said she raised the credit notice 3515 02:06:39,140 --> 02:06:41,040 for that books. 3516 02:06:41,180 --> 02:06:41,920 And both of you are saying 3517 02:06:41,920 --> 02:06:42,720 you've no idea 3518 02:06:42,720 --> 02:06:44,800 that in Miss O'Leary's evidence 3519 02:06:44,800 --> 02:06:46,280 she said she raised the credit notice 3520 02:06:46,280 --> 02:06:47,040 €75,000 3521 02:06:47,040 --> 02:06:48,200 and she did that 3522 02:06:48,200 --> 02:06:49,600 on the instruction of Miss Forbes 3523 02:06:49,600 --> 02:06:51,100 and you said no idea 3524 02:06:51,100 --> 02:06:51,640 or arrangement. 3525 02:06:52,100 --> 02:06:52,480 No, no idea. 3526 02:06:52,540 --> 02:06:53,340 Never formed part 3527 02:06:53,340 --> 02:06:54,800 of any of the contract negotiations 3528 02:06:54,800 --> 02:06:55,680 and so on. 3529 02:06:55,760 --> 02:06:56,100 That's great. 3530 02:06:56,400 --> 02:06:56,560 Okay. 3531 02:06:56,640 --> 02:06:57,280 Look, that's important 3532 02:06:57,280 --> 02:06:58,840 to get on the table. 3533 02:06:58,840 --> 02:06:59,160 Okay. 3534 02:06:59,560 --> 02:07:00,200 Do you have any of the... 3535 02:07:00,200 --> 02:07:01,280 No idea or arranged 3536 02:07:01,280 --> 02:07:02,140 for the late, late show 3537 02:07:02,140 --> 02:07:03,620 was the title sponsor. 3538 02:07:03,820 --> 02:07:04,720 We were deceived as well. 3539 02:07:05,020 --> 02:07:05,560 Oh, no idea. 3540 02:07:05,960 --> 02:07:06,380 Miss Forbes. 3541 02:07:06,520 --> 02:07:06,820 Sorry. 3542 02:07:06,900 --> 02:07:08,200 Sorry for all the skipping here. 3543 02:07:08,320 --> 02:07:09,660 I was trying to get that frame. 3544 02:07:10,180 --> 02:07:10,860 This is, again, 3545 02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:13,180 the problem with the Oireachtas committees 3546 02:07:13,180 --> 02:07:14,920 or the House of the Oireachtas. 3547 02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:15,940 You need to get someone 3548 02:07:15,940 --> 02:07:17,560 who can modify your player. 3549 02:07:18,020 --> 02:07:20,060 I'm having great crack watching this, 3550 02:07:20,400 --> 02:07:21,640 but it's marred by the fact 3551 02:07:21,640 --> 02:07:23,500 you can't fucking skip back. 3552 02:07:23,960 --> 02:07:25,340 It keeps on moving on. 3553 02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:27,300 The goalposts keep shifting 3554 02:07:27,300 --> 02:07:27,700 on the player. 3555 02:07:27,780 --> 02:07:29,600 It's not like a YouTube DVR 3556 02:07:29,600 --> 02:07:30,140 or any of that. 3557 02:07:30,640 --> 02:07:32,640 So thanks for the entertainment, lads, 3558 02:07:32,920 --> 02:07:34,260 but you need to get your player 3559 02:07:34,260 --> 02:07:34,860 up to scratch. 3560 02:07:34,980 --> 02:07:36,240 It's better, as I said before, 3561 02:07:36,240 --> 02:07:37,400 it's a lot better 3562 02:07:37,400 --> 02:07:38,400 than the RTE player. 3563 02:07:39,420 --> 02:07:40,120 Eamon Campion, 3564 02:07:40,200 --> 02:07:41,160 thank you very much there. 3565 02:07:41,880 --> 02:07:43,380 An historic bollocking, 3566 02:07:43,520 --> 02:07:44,160 you say this is. 3567 02:07:44,800 --> 02:07:45,240 40%, 3568 02:07:45,240 --> 02:07:46,640 which excludes the 120. 3569 02:07:46,780 --> 02:07:48,380 The final figure is 40% pay cut. 3570 02:07:48,520 --> 02:07:49,300 40% pay cut. 3571 02:07:49,400 --> 02:07:51,160 I really... 3572 02:07:51,160 --> 02:07:52,280 I tried not to shirk 3573 02:07:52,280 --> 02:07:53,060 my responsibility 3574 02:07:53,060 --> 02:07:53,900 in that regard. 3575 02:07:54,040 --> 02:07:55,340 Well, they accept that, 3576 02:07:55,360 --> 02:07:56,780 but the facts are before us 3577 02:07:56,780 --> 02:07:58,860 and I think that is your difficulty. 3578 02:07:58,940 --> 02:08:00,020 That's why we're here today. 3579 02:08:00,020 --> 02:08:01,020 I appreciate it. 3580 02:08:01,700 --> 02:08:02,340 Mr. Kelly, 3581 02:08:02,560 --> 02:08:03,760 I want to turn to the invoice 3582 02:08:03,760 --> 02:08:04,480 that was raised. 3583 02:08:05,180 --> 02:08:06,020 You can even... 3584 02:08:06,020 --> 02:08:07,340 you can slow it down, 3585 02:08:07,420 --> 02:08:07,580 look. 3586 02:08:10,580 --> 02:08:11,860 You can slow it down 3587 02:08:11,860 --> 02:08:14,380 and then we can put some of that on. 3588 02:08:14,380 --> 02:08:21,040 that you spent my 40 cents, 3589 02:08:22,040 --> 02:08:23,540 which is... 3590 02:08:23,540 --> 02:08:29,540 I don't think... 3591 02:08:29,540 --> 02:08:33,520 that 40% pay cut. 3592 02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:50,580 I try not to hear my response. 3593 02:08:50,580 --> 02:08:58,700 Disturbing. 3594 02:09:01,960 --> 02:09:08,960 Ricky Bobby 420 in the chat says simply disturbing. 3595 02:09:08,960 --> 02:09:20,960 Okay. 3596 02:09:20,960 --> 02:09:22,960 Okay. 3597 02:09:22,960 --> 02:09:26,960 Trude. 3598 02:09:26,960 --> 02:09:33,960 Trish Whelan is after you. 3599 02:09:33,960 --> 02:09:40,960 So I then turn to the issue of the invoices. 3600 02:09:40,960 --> 02:09:43,960 And I have to question Mr Kelly. 3601 02:09:43,960 --> 02:09:47,960 Do you want to come to an Elvis showman? 3602 02:09:47,960 --> 02:09:48,960 Look at that. 3603 02:09:48,960 --> 02:09:52,960 These are the invoices from the other two 75,000 euros. 3604 02:09:52,960 --> 02:09:53,960 Yes. 3605 02:09:53,960 --> 02:09:54,960 One by Noel Kelly. 3606 02:09:54,960 --> 02:09:55,960 The other two by CMS. 3607 02:09:55,960 --> 02:09:56,960 Yes. 3608 02:09:56,960 --> 02:09:57,960 One with the full description. 3609 02:09:57,960 --> 02:09:59,960 The other two without the full description. 3610 02:09:59,960 --> 02:10:00,960 Yeah. 3611 02:10:00,960 --> 02:10:02,960 All relating to the same 75,000. 3612 02:10:02,960 --> 02:10:04,960 All relating to the arrangement of reno. 3613 02:10:04,960 --> 02:10:06,960 You're the only one that raised these two invoices. 3614 02:10:06,960 --> 02:10:07,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3615 02:10:07,960 --> 02:10:08,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3616 02:10:08,960 --> 02:10:09,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3617 02:10:09,960 --> 02:10:10,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3618 02:10:10,960 --> 02:10:11,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3619 02:10:11,960 --> 02:10:12,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3620 02:10:12,960 --> 02:10:13,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3621 02:10:13,960 --> 02:10:14,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3622 02:10:14,960 --> 02:10:15,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3623 02:10:15,960 --> 02:10:16,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3624 02:10:16,960 --> 02:10:17,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3625 02:10:17,960 --> 02:10:18,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3626 02:10:18,960 --> 02:10:19,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3627 02:10:19,960 --> 02:10:20,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3628 02:10:20,960 --> 02:10:21,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3629 02:10:21,960 --> 02:10:22,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3630 02:10:22,960 --> 02:10:23,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3631 02:10:23,960 --> 02:10:24,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3632 02:10:24,960 --> 02:10:25,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3633 02:10:25,960 --> 02:10:26,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3634 02:10:26,960 --> 02:10:27,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3635 02:10:27,960 --> 02:10:28,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3636 02:10:28,960 --> 02:10:29,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3637 02:10:29,960 --> 02:10:30,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3638 02:10:30,960 --> 02:10:31,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3639 02:10:31,960 --> 02:10:32,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3640 02:10:32,960 --> 02:10:33,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3641 02:10:33,960 --> 02:10:34,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3642 02:10:34,960 --> 02:10:35,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3643 02:10:35,960 --> 02:10:36,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3644 02:10:36,960 --> 02:10:37,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3645 02:10:37,960 --> 02:10:38,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3646 02:10:38,960 --> 02:10:39,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3647 02:10:39,960 --> 02:10:40,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3648 02:10:40,960 --> 02:10:41,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3649 02:10:41,960 --> 02:10:42,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3650 02:10:42,960 --> 02:10:43,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3651 02:10:43,960 --> 02:10:44,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3652 02:10:44,960 --> 02:10:45,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3653 02:10:45,960 --> 02:10:46,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3654 02:10:46,960 --> 02:10:47,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3655 02:10:47,960 --> 02:10:48,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3656 02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:49,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3657 02:10:49,960 --> 02:10:50,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3658 02:10:50,960 --> 02:10:51,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3659 02:10:51,960 --> 02:10:52,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3660 02:10:52,960 --> 02:10:53,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3661 02:10:53,960 --> 02:10:54,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3662 02:10:54,960 --> 02:10:55,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3663 02:10:55,960 --> 02:10:56,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3664 02:10:56,960 --> 02:10:57,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3665 02:10:57,960 --> 02:10:58,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3666 02:10:58,960 --> 02:10:59,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3667 02:10:59,960 --> 02:11:00,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3668 02:11:00,960 --> 02:11:01,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3669 02:11:01,960 --> 02:11:02,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3670 02:11:02,960 --> 02:11:03,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3671 02:11:03,960 --> 02:11:04,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3672 02:11:04,960 --> 02:11:05,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3673 02:11:05,960 --> 02:11:06,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3674 02:11:06,960 --> 02:11:07,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3675 02:11:07,960 --> 02:11:08,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3676 02:11:08,960 --> 02:11:09,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3677 02:11:09,960 --> 02:11:10,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3678 02:11:10,960 --> 02:11:11,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3679 02:11:11,960 --> 02:11:12,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3680 02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:13,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3681 02:11:13,960 --> 02:11:14,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3682 02:11:14,960 --> 02:11:15,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3683 02:11:15,960 --> 02:11:16,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3684 02:11:16,960 --> 02:11:17,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3685 02:11:17,960 --> 02:11:18,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3686 02:11:18,960 --> 02:11:19,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3687 02:11:19,960 --> 02:11:20,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3688 02:11:20,960 --> 02:11:21,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3689 02:11:21,960 --> 02:11:22,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3690 02:11:22,960 --> 02:11:23,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3691 02:11:23,960 --> 02:11:24,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3692 02:11:24,960 --> 02:11:25,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3693 02:11:25,960 --> 02:11:26,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3694 02:11:26,960 --> 02:11:27,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3695 02:11:27,960 --> 02:11:28,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3696 02:11:28,960 --> 02:11:29,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3697 02:11:29,960 --> 02:11:30,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3698 02:11:30,960 --> 02:11:31,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3699 02:11:31,960 --> 02:11:32,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3700 02:11:32,960 --> 02:11:33,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3701 02:11:33,960 --> 02:11:34,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3702 02:11:34,960 --> 02:11:35,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3703 02:11:35,960 --> 02:11:36,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3704 02:11:36,960 --> 02:11:37,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3705 02:11:37,960 --> 02:11:38,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3706 02:11:38,960 --> 02:11:39,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3707 02:11:39,960 --> 02:11:40,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3708 02:11:40,960 --> 02:11:41,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3709 02:11:41,960 --> 02:11:42,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3710 02:11:42,960 --> 02:11:43,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3711 02:11:43,960 --> 02:11:44,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3712 02:11:44,960 --> 02:11:45,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3713 02:11:45,960 --> 02:11:46,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3714 02:11:46,960 --> 02:11:47,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3715 02:11:47,960 --> 02:11:48,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3716 02:11:48,960 --> 02:11:49,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3717 02:11:49,960 --> 02:11:50,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3718 02:11:50,960 --> 02:11:51,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3719 02:11:51,960 --> 02:11:52,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3720 02:11:52,960 --> 02:11:53,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3721 02:11:53,960 --> 02:11:54,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3722 02:11:54,960 --> 02:11:55,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3723 02:11:55,960 --> 02:11:56,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3724 02:11:56,960 --> 02:11:57,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3725 02:11:57,960 --> 02:11:58,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3726 02:11:58,960 --> 02:11:59,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3727 02:11:59,960 --> 02:12:00,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3728 02:12:00,960 --> 02:12:01,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3729 02:12:01,960 --> 02:12:02,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3730 02:12:02,960 --> 02:12:03,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3731 02:12:03,960 --> 02:12:04,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3732 02:12:04,960 --> 02:12:05,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3733 02:12:05,960 --> 02:12:06,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3734 02:12:06,960 --> 02:12:07,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3735 02:12:07,960 --> 02:12:08,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3736 02:12:08,960 --> 02:12:09,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3737 02:12:09,960 --> 02:12:10,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3738 02:12:10,960 --> 02:12:11,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3739 02:12:11,960 --> 02:12:12,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3740 02:12:12,960 --> 02:12:13,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3741 02:12:13,960 --> 02:12:14,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3742 02:12:14,960 --> 02:12:15,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3743 02:12:15,960 --> 02:12:16,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3744 02:12:16,960 --> 02:12:17,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3745 02:12:17,960 --> 02:12:18,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3746 02:12:18,960 --> 02:12:19,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3747 02:12:19,960 --> 02:12:20,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3748 02:12:20,960 --> 02:12:21,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3749 02:12:21,960 --> 02:12:22,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3750 02:12:22,960 --> 02:12:23,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3751 02:12:23,960 --> 02:12:24,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3752 02:12:24,960 --> 02:12:25,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3753 02:12:25,960 --> 02:12:26,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3754 02:12:26,960 --> 02:12:27,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3755 02:12:27,960 --> 02:12:28,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3756 02:12:28,960 --> 02:12:29,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3757 02:12:29,960 --> 02:12:30,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3758 02:12:30,960 --> 02:12:31,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3759 02:12:31,960 --> 02:12:32,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3760 02:12:32,960 --> 02:12:33,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3761 02:12:33,960 --> 02:12:34,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3762 02:12:34,960 --> 02:12:35,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3763 02:12:35,960 --> 02:12:36,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3764 02:12:36,960 --> 02:12:37,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3765 02:12:37,960 --> 02:12:38,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3766 02:12:38,960 --> 02:12:39,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3767 02:12:39,960 --> 02:12:40,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3768 02:12:40,960 --> 02:12:41,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3769 02:12:41,960 --> 02:12:42,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3770 02:12:42,960 --> 02:12:43,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3771 02:12:43,960 --> 02:12:44,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3772 02:12:44,960 --> 02:12:45,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3773 02:12:45,960 --> 02:12:46,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3774 02:12:46,960 --> 02:12:47,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3775 02:12:47,960 --> 02:12:48,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3776 02:12:48,960 --> 02:12:49,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3777 02:12:49,960 --> 02:12:50,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3778 02:12:50,960 --> 02:12:51,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3779 02:12:51,960 --> 02:12:52,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3780 02:12:52,960 --> 02:12:53,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3781 02:12:53,960 --> 02:12:54,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3782 02:12:54,960 --> 02:12:55,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3783 02:12:55,960 --> 02:12:56,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3784 02:12:56,960 --> 02:12:57,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3785 02:12:57,960 --> 02:12:58,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3786 02:12:58,960 --> 02:12:59,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3787 02:12:59,960 --> 02:13:00,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3788 02:13:00,960 --> 02:13:01,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3789 02:13:01,960 --> 02:13:02,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3790 02:13:02,960 --> 02:13:03,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3791 02:13:03,960 --> 02:13:04,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3792 02:13:04,960 --> 02:13:05,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3793 02:13:05,960 --> 02:13:06,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3794 02:13:06,960 --> 02:13:07,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3795 02:13:07,960 --> 02:13:08,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3796 02:13:08,960 --> 02:13:09,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3797 02:13:09,960 --> 02:13:10,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3798 02:13:10,960 --> 02:13:11,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3799 02:13:11,960 --> 02:13:12,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3800 02:13:12,960 --> 02:13:13,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3801 02:13:13,960 --> 02:13:14,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3802 02:13:14,960 --> 02:13:15,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3803 02:13:15,960 --> 02:13:16,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3804 02:13:16,960 --> 02:13:17,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3805 02:13:17,960 --> 02:13:18,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3806 02:13:18,960 --> 02:13:19,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3807 02:13:19,960 --> 02:13:20,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3808 02:13:20,960 --> 02:13:21,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3809 02:13:21,960 --> 02:13:22,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3810 02:13:22,960 --> 02:13:23,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3811 02:13:23,960 --> 02:13:24,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3812 02:13:24,960 --> 02:13:25,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3813 02:13:25,960 --> 02:13:26,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3814 02:13:26,960 --> 02:13:27,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3815 02:13:27,960 --> 02:13:28,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3816 02:13:28,960 --> 02:13:29,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3817 02:13:29,960 --> 02:13:30,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3818 02:13:30,960 --> 02:13:31,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3819 02:13:31,960 --> 02:13:32,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3820 02:13:32,960 --> 02:13:33,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3821 02:13:33,960 --> 02:13:34,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3822 02:13:34,960 --> 02:13:35,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3823 02:13:35,960 --> 02:13:36,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3824 02:13:36,960 --> 02:13:37,960 Sean Thornton thank you very much. 3825 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Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3840 02:13:52,960 --> 02:13:53,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3841 02:13:53,960 --> 02:13:54,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3842 02:13:54,960 --> 02:13:55,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3843 02:13:55,960 --> 02:13:56,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3844 02:13:56,960 --> 02:13:57,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3845 02:13:57,960 --> 02:13:58,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3846 02:13:58,960 --> 02:13:59,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3847 02:13:59,960 --> 02:14:00,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3848 02:14:00,960 --> 02:14:01,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3849 02:14:01,960 --> 02:14:02,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3850 02:14:02,960 --> 02:14:03,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3851 02:14:03,960 --> 02:14:04,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3852 02:14:04,960 --> 02:14:05,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3853 02:14:05,960 --> 02:14:06,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3854 02:14:06,960 --> 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much. 3914 02:15:06,960 --> 02:15:07,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3915 02:15:07,960 --> 02:15:08,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3916 02:15:08,960 --> 02:15:09,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3917 02:15:09,960 --> 02:15:10,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3918 02:15:10,960 --> 02:15:11,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3919 02:15:11,960 --> 02:15:12,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3920 02:15:12,960 --> 02:15:13,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3921 02:15:13,960 --> 02:15:14,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3922 02:15:14,960 --> 02:15:15,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3923 02:15:15,960 --> 02:15:16,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3924 02:15:16,960 --> 02:15:17,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3925 02:15:17,960 --> 02:15:18,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3926 02:15:18,960 --> 02:15:19,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3927 02:15:19,960 --> 02:15:20,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3928 02:15:20,960 --> 02:15:21,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3929 02:15:21,960 --> 02:15:22,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3930 02:15:22,960 --> 02:15:23,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3931 02:15:23,960 --> 02:15:24,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3932 02:15:24,960 --> 02:15:25,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3933 02:15:25,960 --> 02:15:26,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3934 02:15:26,960 --> 02:15:27,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3935 02:15:27,960 --> 02:15:28,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3936 02:15:28,960 --> 02:15:29,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3937 02:15:29,960 --> 02:15:30,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3938 02:15:30,960 --> 02:15:31,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3939 02:15:31,960 --> 02:15:32,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3940 02:15:32,960 --> 02:15:33,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3941 02:15:33,960 --> 02:15:34,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3942 02:15:34,960 --> 02:15:35,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3943 02:15:35,960 --> 02:15:36,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3944 02:15:36,960 --> 02:15:37,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3945 02:15:37,960 --> 02:15:38,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3946 02:15:38,960 --> 02:15:39,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3947 02:15:39,960 --> 02:15:40,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3948 02:15:40,960 --> 02:15:41,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3949 02:15:41,960 --> 02:15:42,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3950 02:15:42,960 --> 02:15:43,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3951 02:15:43,960 --> 02:15:44,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3952 02:15:44,960 --> 02:15:45,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3953 02:15:45,960 --> 02:15:46,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3954 02:15:46,960 --> 02:15:47,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3955 02:15:47,960 --> 02:15:48,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3956 02:15:48,960 --> 02:15:49,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3957 02:15:49,960 --> 02:15:50,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3958 02:15:50,960 --> 02:15:51,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3959 02:15:51,960 --> 02:15:52,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3960 02:15:52,960 --> 02:15:53,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3961 02:15:53,960 --> 02:15:54,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3962 02:15:54,960 --> 02:15:55,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3963 02:15:55,960 --> 02:15:56,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3964 02:15:56,960 --> 02:15:57,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3965 02:15:57,960 --> 02:15:58,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3966 02:15:58,960 --> 02:15:59,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3967 02:15:59,960 --> 02:16:00,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3968 02:16:00,960 --> 02:16:01,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3969 02:16:01,960 --> 02:16:02,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3970 02:16:02,960 --> 02:16:03,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3971 02:16:03,960 --> 02:16:04,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3972 02:16:04,960 --> 02:16:05,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 3973 02:16:05,960 --> 02:16:06,960 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thanks very much. 4078 02:17:50,960 --> 02:17:51,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4079 02:17:51,960 --> 02:17:52,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4080 02:17:52,960 --> 02:17:53,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4081 02:17:53,960 --> 02:17:54,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4082 02:17:54,960 --> 02:17:55,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4083 02:17:55,960 --> 02:17:56,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4084 02:17:56,960 --> 02:17:57,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4085 02:17:57,960 --> 02:17:58,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4086 02:17:58,960 --> 02:17:59,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4087 02:17:59,960 --> 02:18:00,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4088 02:18:00,960 --> 02:18:01,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4089 02:18:01,960 --> 02:18:02,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4090 02:18:02,960 --> 02:18:03,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4091 02:18:03,960 --> 02:18:04,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4092 02:18:04,960 --> 02:18:05,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4093 02:18:05,960 --> 02:18:06,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4094 02:18:06,960 --> 02:18:07,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4095 02:18:07,960 --> 02:18:08,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4096 02:18:08,960 --> 02:18:09,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4097 02:18:09,960 --> 02:18:10,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4098 02:18:10,960 --> 02:18:11,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4099 02:18:11,960 --> 02:18:12,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4100 02:18:12,960 --> 02:18:13,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4101 02:18:13,960 --> 02:18:14,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4102 02:18:14,960 --> 02:18:15,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4103 02:18:15,960 --> 02:18:16,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4104 02:18:16,960 --> 02:18:17,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4105 02:18:17,960 --> 02:18:18,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4106 02:18:18,960 --> 02:18:19,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4107 02:18:19,960 --> 02:18:20,960 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very much. 4465 02:24:18,960 --> 02:24:19,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4466 02:24:19,960 --> 02:24:20,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4467 02:24:20,960 --> 02:24:21,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4468 02:24:21,960 --> 02:24:22,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4469 02:24:22,960 --> 02:24:23,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4470 02:24:23,960 --> 02:24:24,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4471 02:24:24,960 --> 02:24:25,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4472 02:24:25,960 --> 02:24:26,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4473 02:24:26,960 --> 02:24:27,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4474 02:24:27,960 --> 02:24:28,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4475 02:24:28,960 --> 02:24:29,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4476 02:24:29,960 --> 02:24:30,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4477 02:24:30,960 --> 02:24:31,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4478 02:24:31,960 --> 02:24:32,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4479 02:24:32,960 --> 02:24:33,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4480 02:24:33,960 --> 02:24:34,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4481 02:24:34,960 --> 02:24:35,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4482 02:24:35,960 --> 02:24:36,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4483 02:24:36,960 --> 02:24:37,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4484 02:24:37,960 --> 02:24:38,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4485 02:24:38,960 --> 02:24:39,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4486 02:24:39,960 --> 02:24:40,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4487 02:24:40,960 --> 02:24:41,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4488 02:24:41,960 --> 02:24:42,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4489 02:24:42,960 --> 02:24:43,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4490 02:24:43,960 --> 02:24:44,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4491 02:24:44,960 --> 02:24:45,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4492 02:24:45,960 --> 02:24:46,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4493 02:24:46,960 --> 02:24:47,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4494 02:24:47,960 --> 02:24:48,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4495 02:24:48,960 --> 02:24:49,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4496 02:24:49,960 --> 02:24:50,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4497 02:24:50,960 --> 02:24:51,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4498 02:24:51,960 --> 02:24:52,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4499 02:24:52,960 --> 02:24:53,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4500 02:24:53,960 --> 02:24:54,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4501 02:24:54,960 --> 02:24:55,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4502 02:24:55,960 --> 02:24:56,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4503 02:24:56,960 --> 02:24:57,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4504 02:24:57,960 --> 02:24:58,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4505 02:24:58,960 --> 02:24:59,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4506 02:24:59,960 --> 02:25:00,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4507 02:25:00,960 --> 02:25:01,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4508 02:25:01,960 --> 02:25:02,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4509 02:25:02,960 --> 02:25:03,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4510 02:25:03,960 --> 02:25:04,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4511 02:25:04,960 --> 02:25:05,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4512 02:25:05,960 --> 02:25:06,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4513 02:25:06,960 --> 02:25:07,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4514 02:25:07,960 --> 02:25:08,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4515 02:25:08,960 --> 02:25:09,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4516 02:25:09,960 --> 02:25:10,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4517 02:25:10,960 --> 02:25:11,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4518 02:25:11,960 --> 02:25:12,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4519 02:25:12,960 --> 02:25:13,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4520 02:25:13,960 --> 02:25:14,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4521 02:25:14,960 --> 02:25:15,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4522 02:25:15,960 --> 02:25:16,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4523 02:25:16,960 --> 02:25:17,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4524 02:25:17,960 --> 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02:25:47,960 --> 02:25:48,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4555 02:25:48,960 --> 02:25:49,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4556 02:25:49,960 --> 02:25:51,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4557 02:25:51,960 --> 02:25:52,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4558 02:25:52,960 --> 02:25:53,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4559 02:25:53,960 --> 02:25:54,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4560 02:25:54,960 --> 02:25:55,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4561 02:25:55,960 --> 02:25:56,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4562 02:25:56,960 --> 02:25:57,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4563 02:25:57,960 --> 02:25:58,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4564 02:25:58,960 --> 02:25:59,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4565 02:25:59,960 --> 02:26:00,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4566 02:26:00,960 --> 02:26:01,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4567 02:26:01,960 --> 02:26:02,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4568 02:26:02,960 --> 02:26:03,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4569 02:26:03,960 --> 02:26:04,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4570 02:26:04,960 --> 02:26:05,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4571 02:26:05,960 --> 02:26:06,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4572 02:26:06,960 --> 02:26:07,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4573 02:26:07,960 --> 02:26:08,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4574 02:26:08,960 --> 02:26:09,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4575 02:26:09,960 --> 02:26:10,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4576 02:26:10,960 --> 02:26:11,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4577 02:26:11,960 --> 02:26:12,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4578 02:26:12,960 --> 02:26:13,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4579 02:26:13,960 --> 02:26:14,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4580 02:26:14,960 --> 02:26:16,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4581 02:26:16,960 --> 02:26:17,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4582 02:26:17,960 --> 02:26:18,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4583 02:26:18,960 --> 02:26:19,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4584 02:26:19,960 --> 02:26:20,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4585 02:26:20,960 --> 02:26:21,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4586 02:26:21,960 --> 02:26:22,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4587 02:26:22,960 --> 02:26:23,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4588 02:26:23,960 --> 02:26:24,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4589 02:26:24,960 --> 02:26:25,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4590 02:26:25,960 --> 02:26:26,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4591 02:26:26,960 --> 02:26:27,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4592 02:26:27,960 --> 02:26:28,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4593 02:26:28,960 --> 02:26:29,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4594 02:26:29,960 --> 02:26:30,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4595 02:26:30,960 --> 02:26:31,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4596 02:26:31,960 --> 02:26:32,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4597 02:26:32,960 --> 02:26:33,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4598 02:26:33,960 --> 02:26:34,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4599 02:26:34,960 --> 02:26:35,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4600 02:26:35,960 --> 02:26:36,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4601 02:26:36,960 --> 02:26:37,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4602 02:26:37,960 --> 02:26:38,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4603 02:26:38,960 --> 02:26:39,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4604 02:26:39,960 --> 02:26:40,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4605 02:26:40,960 --> 02:26:41,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4606 02:26:41,960 --> 02:26:42,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4607 02:26:42,960 --> 02:26:43,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4608 02:26:43,960 --> 02:26:44,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4609 02:26:44,960 --> 02:26:45,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4610 02:26:45,960 --> 02:26:46,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4611 02:26:46,960 --> 02:26:47,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4612 02:26:47,960 --> 02:26:48,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4613 02:26:48,960 --> 02:26:49,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4614 02:26:49,960 --> 02:26:50,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4615 02:26:50,960 --> 02:26:51,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4616 02:26:51,960 --> 02:26:52,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4617 02:26:52,960 --> 02:26:53,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4618 02:26:53,960 --> 02:26:54,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4619 02:26:54,960 --> 02:26:55,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4620 02:26:55,960 --> 02:26:56,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4621 02:26:56,960 --> 02:26:57,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4622 02:26:57,960 --> 02:26:58,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4623 02:26:58,960 --> 02:26:59,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4624 02:26:59,960 --> 02:27:00,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4625 02:27:00,960 --> 02:27:01,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4626 02:27:01,960 --> 02:27:02,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4627 02:27:02,960 --> 02:27:03,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4628 02:27:03,960 --> 02:27:04,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4629 02:27:04,960 --> 02:27:05,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4630 02:27:05,960 --> 02:27:06,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4631 02:27:06,960 --> 02:27:07,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4632 02:27:07,960 --> 02:27:08,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4633 02:27:08,960 --> 02:27:09,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4634 02:27:09,960 --> 02:27:10,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4635 02:27:10,960 --> 02:27:11,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4636 02:27:11,960 --> 02:27:12,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4637 02:27:12,960 --> 02:27:13,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4638 02:27:13,960 --> 02:27:14,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4639 02:27:14,960 --> 02:27:15,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4640 02:27:15,960 --> 02:27:16,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4641 02:27:16,960 --> 02:27:17,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4642 02:27:17,960 --> 02:27:18,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4643 02:27:18,960 --> 02:27:19,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4644 02:27:19,960 --> 02:27:20,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4645 02:27:20,960 --> 02:27:21,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4646 02:27:21,960 --> 02:27:22,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4647 02:27:22,960 --> 02:27:23,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4648 02:27:23,960 --> 02:27:24,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4649 02:27:24,960 --> 02:27:25,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4650 02:27:25,960 --> 02:27:26,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4651 02:27:26,960 --> 02:27:27,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4652 02:27:27,960 --> 02:27:28,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4653 02:27:28,960 --> 02:27:29,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4654 02:27:29,960 --> 02:27:30,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4655 02:27:30,960 --> 02:27:31,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4656 02:27:31,960 --> 02:27:32,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4657 02:27:32,960 --> 02:27:33,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4658 02:27:33,960 --> 02:27:34,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4659 02:27:34,960 --> 02:27:35,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4660 02:27:35,960 --> 02:27:36,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4661 02:27:36,960 --> 02:27:37,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4662 02:27:37,960 --> 02:27:38,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4663 02:27:38,960 --> 02:27:39,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4664 02:27:39,960 --> 02:27:40,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4665 02:27:40,960 --> 02:27:41,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4666 02:27:41,960 --> 02:27:42,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4667 02:27:42,960 --> 02:27:43,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4668 02:27:43,960 --> 02:27:44,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4669 02:27:44,960 --> 02:27:45,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4670 02:27:45,960 --> 02:27:46,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4671 02:27:46,960 --> 02:27:47,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4672 02:27:47,960 --> 02:27:48,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4673 02:27:48,960 --> 02:27:49,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4674 02:27:49,960 --> 02:27:50,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4675 02:27:50,960 --> 02:27:51,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4676 02:27:51,960 --> 02:27:52,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4677 02:27:52,960 --> 02:27:53,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4678 02:27:53,960 --> 02:27:54,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4679 02:27:54,960 --> 02:27:55,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4680 02:27:55,960 --> 02:27:56,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4681 02:27:56,960 --> 02:27:57,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4682 02:27:57,960 --> 02:27:58,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4683 02:27:58,960 --> 02:27:59,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4684 02:27:59,960 --> 02:28:00,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4685 02:28:00,960 --> 02:28:01,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4686 02:28:01,960 --> 02:28:02,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4687 02:28:02,960 --> 02:28:03,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4688 02:28:03,960 --> 02:28:05,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4689 02:28:05,960 --> 02:28:06,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4690 02:28:06,960 --> 02:28:07,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4691 02:28:07,960 --> 02:28:14,960 Mid mid July day you're inside this fucking building it's crammed there's a lot of people in there as well. 4692 02:28:14,960 --> 02:28:15,960 Yeah. 4693 02:28:15,960 --> 02:28:36,960 Reino there's a lot a lot there's a lot of explanation going on you know perspiration explanation again I just hope that someone has has put a fucking Glade plug in in one of the plugs down its corner of the room or even there's a window that hopefully there's a window or a bit of an air con scenario as well because. 4694 02:28:36,960 --> 02:28:37,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4695 02:28:37,960 --> 02:28:38,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4696 02:28:38,960 --> 02:28:39,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4697 02:28:39,960 --> 02:28:40,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4698 02:28:40,960 --> 02:28:41,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4699 02:28:41,960 --> 02:28:42,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4700 02:28:42,960 --> 02:28:43,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4701 02:28:43,960 --> 02:28:44,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4702 02:28:44,960 --> 02:28:45,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4703 02:28:45,960 --> 02:28:46,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4704 02:28:46,960 --> 02:28:47,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4705 02:28:47,960 --> 02:28:48,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4706 02:28:48,960 --> 02:28:49,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4707 02:28:49,960 --> 02:28:50,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4708 02:28:50,960 --> 02:28:51,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4709 02:28:51,960 --> 02:28:52,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4710 02:28:52,960 --> 02:28:53,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4711 02:28:53,960 --> 02:28:54,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4712 02:28:54,960 --> 02:28:55,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4713 02:28:55,960 --> 02:28:56,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4714 02:28:56,960 --> 02:28:57,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4715 02:28:57,960 --> 02:28:58,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4716 02:28:58,960 --> 02:28:59,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4717 02:28:59,960 --> 02:28:59,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4718 02:28:59,960 --> 02:28:59,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4719 02:28:59,960 --> 02:28:59,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4720 02:28:59,960 --> 02:29:00,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4721 02:29:00,960 --> 02:29:01,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4722 02:29:01,960 --> 02:29:02,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4723 02:29:02,960 --> 02:29:03,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4724 02:29:03,960 --> 02:29:04,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4725 02:29:04,960 --> 02:29:04,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4726 02:29:04,960 --> 02:29:04,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4727 02:29:04,960 --> 02:29:05,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4728 02:29:05,960 --> 02:29:06,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4729 02:29:06,960 --> 02:29:07,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4730 02:29:07,960 --> 02:29:08,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4731 02:29:08,960 --> 02:29:09,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4732 02:29:09,960 --> 02:29:10,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4733 02:29:10,960 --> 02:29:11,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4734 02:29:11,960 --> 02:29:13,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4735 02:29:13,960 --> 02:29:26,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4736 02:29:26,960 --> 02:29:27,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4737 02:29:27,960 --> 02:29:28,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4738 02:29:28,960 --> 02:29:29,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4739 02:29:29,960 --> 02:29:30,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4740 02:29:30,960 --> 02:29:31,960 Sean Thornton thanks very much. 4741 02:29:31,960 --> 02:29:34,360 And it depends really 4742 02:29:34,360 --> 02:29:36,740 Like some of our contractors might do 4743 02:29:36,740 --> 02:29:38,480 Eight one half hour shows in a year 4744 02:29:38,480 --> 02:29:39,160 And that's it 4745 02:29:39,160 --> 02:29:42,360 But you wouldn't normally deal with the director in general 4746 02:29:42,360 --> 02:29:42,680 No, no 4747 02:29:42,680 --> 02:29:44,300 And I was saying there 4748 02:29:44,300 --> 02:29:46,720 You'd want some air con in there 4749 02:29:46,720 --> 02:29:48,860 And then Owen Fortune in the chat says 4750 02:29:48,860 --> 02:29:50,300 Air con 4751 02:29:50,300 --> 02:29:52,940 More like con air 4752 02:29:52,940 --> 02:29:59,200 Thanks very much 4753 02:29:59,200 --> 02:30:01,020 Owen Fortune 4754 02:30:01,020 --> 02:30:01,760 Thank you very much 4755 02:30:01,760 --> 02:30:02,640 We've been told 4756 02:30:02,640 --> 02:30:04,120 No, absolutely not 4757 02:30:04,120 --> 02:30:06,260 That was only one person had an overview of all of this 4758 02:30:06,260 --> 02:30:06,860 Couldn't have been 4759 02:30:06,860 --> 02:30:07,600 Couldn't have been 4760 02:30:07,600 --> 02:30:09,800 And that's why I find this whole thing so bizarre 4761 02:30:09,800 --> 02:30:11,140 But in relation to 4762 02:30:11,140 --> 02:30:12,500 It's so bizarre 4763 02:30:12,500 --> 02:30:16,060 Some guys might just have a one hour radio contract 4764 02:30:16,060 --> 02:30:17,260 Some would have a TV contract 4765 02:30:17,260 --> 02:30:19,020 Some might have a bit of radio and a bit of TV 4766 02:30:19,020 --> 02:30:20,960 And so it would depend 4767 02:30:20,960 --> 02:30:24,340 Head of TV, under head of TV 4768 02:30:24,340 --> 02:30:27,280 Executive, MD of TV, MD of radio 4769 02:30:27,280 --> 02:30:29,260 It would just depend where it would sit 4770 02:30:29,260 --> 02:30:31,560 And then you'd have an overall like Alan Tyler 4771 02:30:31,560 --> 02:30:35,840 And he was saying like he's head of entertainment 4772 02:30:35,840 --> 02:30:37,000 Sorry, I have very little time 4773 02:30:37,000 --> 02:30:37,760 Sorry, sorry, sorry 4774 02:30:37,760 --> 02:30:38,260 So I'm just saying 4775 02:30:38,260 --> 02:30:39,360 There's so many people 4776 02:30:39,360 --> 02:30:41,100 Like there's 1,800 people in the organisation 4777 02:30:41,100 --> 02:30:42,140 So I think something 4778 02:30:42,140 --> 02:30:42,940 You don't operate for 1,800 people in the organisation 4779 02:30:42,940 --> 02:30:44,640 I think something has kicked in 4780 02:30:44,640 --> 02:30:47,220 I think something has kicked in there with Noel 4781 02:30:47,220 --> 02:30:48,920 Look at the fans are flying around 4782 02:30:48,920 --> 02:30:50,920 There's a lot of touching of the face 4783 02:30:50,920 --> 02:30:53,180 No, absolutely not 4784 02:30:53,180 --> 02:30:54,180 That was only one person 4785 02:30:54,180 --> 02:30:55,520 Who had an overview of all of this 4786 02:30:55,520 --> 02:30:56,060 Couldn't have been 4787 02:30:56,060 --> 02:30:56,780 Couldn't have been 4788 02:30:56,780 --> 02:30:57,180 Couldn't have been 4789 02:30:57,180 --> 02:30:58,980 And that's why I find this whole thing so bizarre 4790 02:30:58,980 --> 02:31:00,320 But in relation to 4791 02:31:00,320 --> 02:31:05,160 So some guys might just have a 1 hour radio contract 4792 02:31:05,160 --> 02:31:06,360 Some would have a TV contract 4793 02:31:06,360 --> 02:31:08,100 Some might have a bit of radio and a bit of TV 4794 02:31:08,100 --> 02:31:10,060 And so it would depend 4795 02:31:10,060 --> 02:31:13,440 Head of TV, under head of TV 4796 02:31:13,440 --> 02:31:16,360 Executive, MD of TV, MD of radio 4797 02:31:16,360 --> 02:31:18,380 It would just depend where it would sit 4798 02:31:18,380 --> 02:31:19,900 And then you'd have an overall like 4799 02:31:19,900 --> 02:31:22,220 And so it would depend 4800 02:31:22,220 --> 02:31:43,600 Head of TV, under head of TV, executive, MD of TV, MD of radio 4801 02:31:43,600 --> 02:31:51,980 And so it would depend where it would sit 4802 02:31:51,980 --> 02:32:02,380 And then you'd have an overall like a toddler 4803 02:32:02,380 --> 02:32:26,980 NK Ultra 4804 02:32:26,980 --> 02:32:30,000 NK Ultra, John 4805 02:32:30,000 --> 02:32:37,000 John? 4806 02:32:37,000 --> 02:32:37,600 John? 4807 02:32:37,600 --> 02:32:38,320 John? 4808 02:32:54,880 --> 02:32:55,360 John? 4809 02:32:57,940 --> 02:32:59,040 Where are you, John? 4810 02:32:59,100 --> 02:33:00,100 We're in the committee room 4811 02:33:00,100 --> 02:33:03,120 Yeah, I'm down the back 4812 02:33:03,120 --> 02:33:05,620 The boys are doing 4813 02:33:05,620 --> 02:33:09,840 The boys are playing a blinder, John 4814 02:33:09,840 --> 02:33:13,100 Yeah, don't worry 4815 02:33:13,100 --> 02:33:16,620 No shit's gonna come to light 4816 02:33:16,620 --> 02:33:30,960 Powered by the all-player, John 4817 02:33:30,960 --> 02:33:45,000 Powered by the all-player, John 4818 02:33:45,000 --> 02:33:48,920 version 2.6 9.1 4819 02:33:48,920 --> 02:33:51,880 don't worry the Oireachtas 4820 02:33:51,880 --> 02:33:53,380 the Oireachtas player is 4821 02:33:53,380 --> 02:33:54,660 pretty tight 4822 02:33:54,660 --> 02:33:57,500 it's a lot better than the RTE player 4823 02:33:57,500 --> 02:33:59,980 it's stable, it's a stable release 4824 02:33:59,980 --> 02:34:00,360 John 4825 02:34:00,360 --> 02:34:09,900 it's so stable 4826 02:34:09,900 --> 02:34:34,080 Tobbs is playing a blinder John 4827 02:34:34,080 --> 02:34:36,400 don't worry 4828 02:34:36,400 --> 02:34:38,860 he was well breathed before we went in 4829 02:34:38,860 --> 02:34:43,000 how's it going with yourself anyway? 4830 02:34:45,400 --> 02:34:47,220 good, good, good 4831 02:34:47,220 --> 02:34:52,960 apparently there's an unidentified flying object 4832 02:34:52,960 --> 02:34:54,720 inside the committee room at the moment 4833 02:34:54,720 --> 02:34:57,620 the UFO John 4834 02:34:57,620 --> 02:35:02,800 cold John John 4835 02:35:02,800 --> 02:35:05,280 cold John 4836 02:35:05,280 --> 02:35:09,420 temporary water bottle John 4837 02:35:09,420 --> 02:35:10,540 check that out 4838 02:35:10,540 --> 02:35:12,960 it's very sustainable 4839 02:35:12,960 --> 02:35:15,080 made of paper 4840 02:35:15,080 --> 02:35:19,060 Rubot, thanks very much John 4841 02:35:19,060 --> 02:35:21,340 thanks very much Rubus, Rubot 4842 02:35:21,340 --> 02:35:30,040 John Denver John. 4843 02:35:36,040 --> 02:35:46,720 They call him the Toy Man. 4844 02:35:47,340 --> 02:35:49,080 Bit of bad news. 4845 02:35:50,520 --> 02:35:53,900 Nobody let it slip that he was known as the Toy Man. 4846 02:36:19,700 --> 02:36:45,460 There's a single-use plastic bottle in front of Tubberdy. 4847 02:36:45,460 --> 02:36:49,080 That is very bad optics. 4848 02:36:50,560 --> 02:36:53,840 Grant Thornton is going to be on to you about that one. 4849 02:36:53,840 --> 02:37:09,180 Sorry, just got to run to the loo there, guys. 4850 02:37:09,300 --> 02:37:12,560 I drank probably about two litres of water there since we started. 4851 02:37:12,560 --> 02:37:15,620 I went to Grant Thornton and discussed everything with him. 4852 02:37:16,360 --> 02:37:20,860 On 23rd of June, it was Ortiz's first statement and then 26th of June. 4853 02:37:21,400 --> 02:37:26,020 We only received the report on 26th of June. 4854 02:37:26,020 --> 02:37:27,780 We didn't get a copy of the report. 4855 02:37:27,780 --> 02:37:33,960 When did you first alert Mr. Tubberdy that the report was being carried out? 4856 02:37:34,160 --> 02:37:35,740 And then perhaps we may have had concerns. 4857 02:37:35,740 --> 02:37:38,300 Well, on the 22nd of June? 4858 02:37:38,540 --> 02:37:41,540 The 22nd of June when the statement came out from RTE. 4859 02:37:42,540 --> 02:37:45,020 The statement and then they released the report. 4860 02:37:45,120 --> 02:37:46,120 We didn't even have the report. 4861 02:37:46,540 --> 02:37:46,620 Yeah. 4862 02:37:46,920 --> 02:37:48,640 And so at that stage, that's what we were saying. 4863 02:37:48,840 --> 02:37:50,600 So that happened on the Thursday. 4864 02:37:51,180 --> 02:37:56,220 And then it was four days later before they put them the correction saying that there was no wrongdoing on behalf of Ryan Trubberdy ourselves. 4865 02:37:56,480 --> 02:37:58,560 And then at that stage, Ryan was off air. 4866 02:37:59,300 --> 02:38:00,060 And so the whole thing. 4867 02:38:00,180 --> 02:38:03,940 So had they, what did you say, not be so hasty? 4868 02:38:04,400 --> 02:38:12,100 If they hadn't rushed everything out, 99% of this whole thing wouldn't be an issue because we would have given them everything they wanted if they simply asked questions. 4869 02:38:12,260 --> 02:38:16,820 The reason I want to ask you this question, I think it's for your own benefit, Mr. Trubberdy, right? 4870 02:38:16,860 --> 02:38:19,480 And I know that you may feel I'm being some way indignant with you, but I'm not. 4871 02:38:19,580 --> 02:38:19,980 Not at all. 4872 02:38:20,120 --> 02:38:21,380 I totally understand what you're saying. 4873 02:38:21,400 --> 02:38:27,460 The reason I'm asking it is because it's crucial to us understanding and verifying that your information is correct. 4874 02:38:27,800 --> 02:38:30,340 It was nothing to do with your decision to step down from the late show. 4875 02:38:30,640 --> 02:38:30,840 Sorry. 4876 02:38:30,940 --> 02:38:31,560 That's why I'm asking. 4877 02:38:31,580 --> 02:38:32,860 You're trying to clarify that the late is. 4878 02:38:32,860 --> 02:38:33,280 No, no, no. 4879 02:38:33,700 --> 02:38:34,380 That's clarified. 4880 02:38:34,640 --> 02:38:35,340 I'm content. 4881 02:38:36,020 --> 02:38:41,060 The next thing I want to move on to is in relation to the deal surrounding Reynolds. 4882 02:38:41,640 --> 02:38:44,020 So in 2020, the first year of the deal, correct? 4883 02:38:44,200 --> 02:38:45,620 I'm going to say it was 2021. 4884 02:38:46,580 --> 02:38:47,040 Wasn't that right? 4885 02:38:47,340 --> 02:38:47,440 Yeah. 4886 02:38:48,380 --> 02:38:51,760 Unorthodox pronunciation of Renault there from your man. 4887 02:38:51,820 --> 02:38:52,740 He said Reynolds. 4888 02:38:53,100 --> 02:38:53,740 He's got a tissue. 4889 02:38:53,900 --> 02:38:53,960 Sorry. 4890 02:38:53,960 --> 02:38:57,040 Obviously with COVID, there was no events on 20 or 21. 4891 02:38:57,180 --> 02:39:03,000 So the first lot of events actually happened in 22 when we had the first road shows out in 4892 02:39:03,000 --> 02:39:04,420 Cork, Dublin. 4893 02:39:04,420 --> 02:39:06,000 And in 20. 4894 02:39:06,100 --> 02:39:11,320 So at what stage were you informed by Reynolds that they were not going to continue on with 4895 02:39:11,320 --> 02:39:18,420 their part of the deal in relation to the pandemic, the outbreak of the pandemic and their withdrawal from that? 4896 02:39:18,640 --> 02:39:23,400 And subsequently RTE stepping in and providing the funding to fill in. 4897 02:39:23,400 --> 02:39:28,380 Guys, I haven't been keeping up, how are you getting on OSW, with this scandal in general. 4898 02:39:28,500 --> 02:39:32,160 Why is Tuberti being grilled? 4899 02:39:32,360 --> 02:39:34,960 Surely it's the RT lads paying him too much. 4900 02:39:35,440 --> 02:39:37,540 Well, I can answer that question there. 4901 02:39:38,660 --> 02:39:45,300 People are eager to know why when the publication of the salaries were dished out every year. 4902 02:39:45,440 --> 02:39:47,240 Thank you very much there, Katie in rush. 4903 02:39:48,700 --> 02:39:51,660 Why he didn't say, hang on a second. 4904 02:39:52,120 --> 02:39:53,820 That's less than what I'm actually getting. 4905 02:39:54,480 --> 02:39:57,620 So have we even had any explanation as of yet? 4906 02:39:57,740 --> 02:40:04,180 I've been too busy trying to put a PNG image of a baseball cap on many people, whilst repeatedly 4907 02:40:04,180 --> 02:40:06,740 playing a dark, ominous drone sound. 4908 02:40:06,740 --> 02:40:14,800 It was maybe marginally funny the first time I did it, but by the 50th time, it had lost its edge. 4909 02:40:14,920 --> 02:40:19,300 Now, in doing that, I have missed a lot of what's been said. 4910 02:40:19,660 --> 02:40:22,700 Nobody has actually answered any questions as of yet. 4911 02:40:23,200 --> 02:40:28,740 Like, the smoking gun question, the big question, the big question is... 4912 02:40:28,740 --> 02:40:30,380 Here we go. 4913 02:40:30,580 --> 02:40:31,440 He's asking it. 4914 02:40:31,440 --> 02:40:36,180 Going into the pandemic, and we all know how difficult it was, and you broadcast throughout 4915 02:40:36,180 --> 02:40:43,600 it, with great admiration and respect from the population, but did you in any way say to 4916 02:40:43,600 --> 02:40:47,080 yourself, this is a dangerous situation, because the published figures in relation pertaining 4917 02:40:47,080 --> 02:40:52,520 to my salary that have been published in newspapers, I think the Irish Independent were publishing those 4918 02:40:52,520 --> 02:40:56,380 figures, were not reflective of your actual take-home pay. 4919 02:40:56,820 --> 02:40:59,980 And I have heard the evidence you provided and what you've said. 4920 02:41:00,220 --> 02:41:00,400 Yes. 4921 02:41:00,480 --> 02:41:01,220 The smoking gun. 4922 02:41:01,220 --> 02:41:04,220 At the end of the day, there was a three-partoid agreement there involving the national broadcaster 4923 02:41:04,220 --> 02:41:07,220 in RTÉ with Reynaud and yourselves. 4924 02:41:07,840 --> 02:41:12,540 But did you not ask yourself the question, maybe it's just not wise for me to be taking this 4925 02:41:12,540 --> 02:41:16,060 money at this point in time, considering what was going on in the country? 4926 02:41:16,440 --> 02:41:16,660 Yep. 4927 02:41:16,700 --> 02:41:20,880 I think it's a fair observation, and I probably should have been a bit more inquisitive about 4928 02:41:20,880 --> 02:41:21,360 these things. 4929 02:41:21,720 --> 02:41:23,580 Never ask any questions in relation to that. 4930 02:41:23,760 --> 02:41:24,700 I say what I say. 4931 02:41:24,760 --> 02:41:25,700 I should have been more inquisitive. 4932 02:41:26,060 --> 02:41:26,920 It's a fair point. 4933 02:41:26,920 --> 02:41:28,380 Deputy, can I just answer that? 4934 02:41:29,520 --> 02:41:30,200 Another... 4935 02:41:30,200 --> 02:41:31,540 Look at these tells. 4936 02:41:31,800 --> 02:41:35,840 Look, I watch endless amounts of YouTube fucking body language experts. 4937 02:41:36,740 --> 02:41:38,800 Look what Noel Kelly does here after Tubbity's... 4938 02:41:38,800 --> 02:41:39,540 Tubbity's... 4939 02:41:39,540 --> 02:41:39,940 That was a... 4940 02:41:39,940 --> 02:41:42,700 That was a real crap answer from Tubbity. 4941 02:41:42,780 --> 02:41:43,760 I should have been more inquisitive. 4942 02:41:44,540 --> 02:41:45,020 COVID happened. 4943 02:41:45,180 --> 02:41:47,940 So this was starting in 2012. 4944 02:41:48,280 --> 02:41:48,520 It started... 4945 02:41:48,520 --> 02:41:50,100 But I'm just... 4946 02:41:50,100 --> 02:41:54,220 Look, there we go. 4947 02:41:55,580 --> 02:41:56,400 Answer there. 4948 02:41:56,800 --> 02:41:57,520 That's known... 4949 02:41:57,520 --> 02:41:57,760 Answer there. 4950 02:41:58,180 --> 02:41:59,700 That's known as an adapter. 4951 02:42:00,920 --> 02:42:02,780 You watch those fucking body language guys. 4952 02:42:03,980 --> 02:42:05,120 That's an adapter. 4953 02:42:06,180 --> 02:42:09,640 When people are trying to fucking make stuff... 4954 02:42:09,640 --> 02:42:10,760 Not make stuff up, sorry. 4955 02:42:11,000 --> 02:42:13,000 When people are under pressure... 4956 02:42:14,740 --> 02:42:16,840 These kind of things. 4957 02:42:16,960 --> 02:42:18,020 Face touching and all that. 4958 02:42:18,200 --> 02:42:19,000 It's... 4959 02:42:20,000 --> 02:42:24,940 It's to highlight maybe someone who's having a bit of a... 4960 02:42:24,940 --> 02:42:26,200 An uncomfortable time. 4961 02:42:27,420 --> 02:42:27,900 Toymaster. 4962 02:42:30,300 --> 02:42:31,900 This contract was written. 4963 02:42:32,440 --> 02:42:34,560 We did discuss it with the RT executive board. 4964 02:42:34,860 --> 02:42:36,540 They were not very forthcoming with answers. 4965 02:42:37,100 --> 02:42:38,440 I know there is a very... 4966 02:42:38,440 --> 02:42:41,900 A very wide chasm between the information that you've provided us to today. 4967 02:42:42,600 --> 02:42:44,740 I think somebody has farted in there. 4968 02:42:44,840 --> 02:42:46,540 I guessed it about 10 minutes ago. 4969 02:42:46,620 --> 02:42:48,400 I said that it's going to be a flatulent room. 4970 02:42:48,460 --> 02:42:49,560 A lot of coffee's been drinking. 4971 02:42:49,560 --> 02:42:53,140 And there's a lady just behind on the laptop there. 4972 02:42:53,240 --> 02:42:54,760 It looks like she's just smelled a fart. 4973 02:42:54,920 --> 02:42:55,060 Look. 4974 02:42:55,180 --> 02:42:55,860 Look at the face here. 4975 02:42:55,860 --> 02:42:56,800 Very forthcoming with answers. 4976 02:42:57,420 --> 02:42:58,780 I know there is a very... 4977 02:42:58,780 --> 02:43:01,580 A very wide chasm between the information that you've provided. 4978 02:43:01,780 --> 02:43:02,020 Look. 4979 02:43:02,260 --> 02:43:02,720 Have you... 4980 02:43:02,720 --> 02:43:03,520 Have you farted? 4981 02:43:03,800 --> 02:43:04,560 That's what she's saying. 4982 02:43:04,740 --> 02:43:06,220 ...with us today. 4983 02:43:06,420 --> 02:43:07,040 And what they've given. 4984 02:43:07,180 --> 02:43:09,060 A chasm between the information that you've provided. 4985 02:43:09,420 --> 02:43:11,180 A very wide chasm between the information. 4986 02:43:11,320 --> 02:43:11,540 Look. 4987 02:43:12,540 --> 02:43:13,420 Pure disgust. 4988 02:43:13,820 --> 02:43:15,900 And it really doesn't surprise me one bit. 4989 02:43:15,980 --> 02:43:17,480 Because as mentioned. 4990 02:43:17,940 --> 02:43:19,860 It's a very humid room. 4991 02:43:20,360 --> 02:43:21,220 A lot of people in there. 4992 02:43:21,260 --> 02:43:22,720 A lot of coffee's being drank. 4993 02:43:23,240 --> 02:43:23,780 There's no... 4994 02:43:23,780 --> 02:43:24,820 No bathroom breaks. 4995 02:43:24,860 --> 02:43:26,400 I haven't seen anybody go to the bathroom. 4996 02:43:26,780 --> 02:43:27,640 And then you result... 4997 02:43:27,640 --> 02:43:29,360 That results in a situation like this. 4998 02:43:29,420 --> 02:43:31,320 Where somebody has to fucking work. 4999 02:43:31,620 --> 02:43:32,560 Through... 5000 02:43:33,500 --> 02:43:34,560 A horrible... 5001 02:43:34,560 --> 02:43:35,320 Environment. 5002 02:43:35,540 --> 02:43:35,760 You know. 5003 02:43:35,840 --> 02:43:36,680 And that's... 5004 02:43:36,680 --> 02:43:37,780 Tantamount to fucking... 5005 02:43:37,780 --> 02:43:39,180 That's a HR situation. 5006 02:43:39,300 --> 02:43:40,940 I'd go to the fucking boss with that one. 5007 02:43:41,100 --> 02:43:43,220 Say this is not a great condition for me to be working in. 5008 02:43:43,220 --> 02:43:44,980 ...that you've provided us today... 5009 02:43:44,980 --> 02:43:45,700 With us today. 5010 02:43:45,840 --> 02:43:47,240 And what they've given us previously. 5011 02:43:47,760 --> 02:43:48,500 But I want... 5012 02:43:48,500 --> 02:43:49,000 Still there. 5013 02:43:49,000 --> 02:43:53,140 Who on the executive board of RT was involved in those pay negotiations? 5014 02:43:53,920 --> 02:43:54,920 Who on the executive board? 5015 02:43:54,920 --> 02:43:56,220 This was present and involved. 5016 02:43:57,340 --> 02:44:00,300 The number of presenters you represented RT is at three of the top ten. 5017 02:44:00,820 --> 02:44:02,020 Many in total do you represent? 5018 02:44:02,160 --> 02:44:02,460 Many... 5019 02:44:02,460 --> 02:44:04,420 Brian Stanley TD. 5020 02:44:06,240 --> 02:44:08,660 It's Brian Stanley TD. 5021 02:44:10,400 --> 02:44:12,660 Leashin' awfully... 5022 02:44:12,660 --> 02:44:13,680 Oh lord. 5023 02:44:14,540 --> 02:44:15,200 Is it 20? 5024 02:44:15,440 --> 02:44:15,920 No. 5025 02:44:16,040 --> 02:44:16,340 No. 5026 02:44:16,340 --> 02:44:16,840 Not at all. 5027 02:44:17,200 --> 02:44:19,240 The ones that we really represent... 5028 02:44:19,240 --> 02:44:21,120 Don't the lady answer. 5029 02:44:21,260 --> 02:44:22,280 I'm asking you straight a question. 5030 02:44:22,680 --> 02:44:24,580 We would represent full... 5031 02:44:24,580 --> 02:44:26,900 So full contract would be somebody who had TV and radio. 5032 02:44:27,080 --> 02:44:27,200 Yeah. 5033 02:44:28,160 --> 02:44:28,900 That's three. 5034 02:44:29,280 --> 02:44:31,900 And then there would be other people who might just do... 5035 02:44:31,900 --> 02:44:33,780 A one-off series or whatever. 5036 02:44:33,880 --> 02:44:34,420 Is it a dozen? 5037 02:44:35,200 --> 02:44:37,960 Thank you very much there to... 5038 02:44:37,960 --> 02:44:38,240 It's six. 5039 02:44:38,840 --> 02:44:39,360 Ronan. 5040 02:44:40,060 --> 02:44:42,280 Like I'd say, three full-time... 5041 02:44:42,280 --> 02:44:43,440 A rock to sharts. 5042 02:44:43,580 --> 02:44:44,160 Thank you very much. 5043 02:44:44,660 --> 02:44:45,420 Ronan who says, 5044 02:44:45,540 --> 02:44:47,540 Everybody wanted a piece of this, Patrick. 5045 02:44:47,820 --> 02:44:49,820 No, but your own trade, like your background in that. 5046 02:44:49,960 --> 02:44:51,140 Are you a negotiator? 5047 02:44:51,680 --> 02:44:52,500 Are you a consultant? 5048 02:44:53,080 --> 02:44:54,660 What type of work have you done? 5049 02:44:54,960 --> 02:44:55,380 What area? 5050 02:44:56,100 --> 02:44:58,760 My background would be marketing and brand. 5051 02:44:59,120 --> 02:44:59,360 Sales. 5052 02:44:59,900 --> 02:45:01,040 And sales. 5053 02:45:01,140 --> 02:45:02,720 And I see people as brands. 5054 02:45:03,420 --> 02:45:08,180 And how you take a young talent. 5055 02:45:08,480 --> 02:45:10,820 And talent to me is like... 5056 02:45:10,820 --> 02:45:11,600 It's every... 5057 02:45:11,600 --> 02:45:14,160 Talent to me is the person behind reception. 5058 02:45:14,300 --> 02:45:15,020 It makes you feel like today, 5059 02:45:15,160 --> 02:45:16,760 the people that make us feel welcome when you come in. 5060 02:45:16,820 --> 02:45:17,420 That's a talent. 5061 02:45:17,780 --> 02:45:19,800 The camera people, the floor people. 5062 02:45:20,180 --> 02:45:22,320 Talent to me isn't like a rock god. 5063 02:45:22,320 --> 02:45:26,960 It's not like a singer or a Tom Cruise or stuff. 5064 02:45:26,960 --> 02:45:27,700 We agree. 5065 02:45:27,700 --> 02:45:28,060 We agree on that one. 5066 02:45:28,400 --> 02:45:30,580 But just in relation to your... 5067 02:45:30,580 --> 02:45:31,140 Your type. 5068 02:45:31,600 --> 02:45:33,860 It's not like a... 5069 02:45:33,860 --> 02:45:34,160 Thank you. 5070 02:45:34,320 --> 02:45:35,040 It's... 5071 02:45:35,040 --> 02:45:35,040 It's... 5072 02:45:35,040 --> 02:45:48,200 It's not like a... 5073 02:45:48,200 --> 02:45:48,480 Thank you. 5074 02:45:48,480 --> 02:45:48,480 Thank you. 5075 02:45:48,480 --> 02:45:48,680 Thank you. 5076 02:45:48,680 --> 02:45:49,520 - I'm a singer. 5077 02:45:49,520 --> 02:45:50,340 - Cadbury's. 5078 02:45:50,340 --> 02:45:52,940 - Yeah, chocolate, chocolate, okay. 5079 02:45:52,940 --> 02:45:55,060 Thank you, thank you. 5080 02:45:55,060 --> 02:45:56,440 - Oh! - Thank you. 5081 02:45:56,440 --> 02:45:57,360 - That's fine. 5082 02:45:57,360 --> 02:45:58,680 - That was soap anyway. - What was that? 5083 02:45:58,680 --> 02:46:00,120 We made that. 5084 02:46:00,120 --> 02:46:00,960 - Sorry? 5085 02:46:00,960 --> 02:46:02,980 - What kind of goods would you have sold? 5086 02:46:02,980 --> 02:46:04,580 What kind of marketing would you have been involved in? 5087 02:46:04,580 --> 02:46:05,620 - Just briefly. 5088 02:46:05,620 --> 02:46:09,620 - So I have this company, which are, we're-- 5089 02:46:09,620 --> 02:46:11,040 - Say, going back before you got involved in RT, 5090 02:46:11,040 --> 02:46:15,300 - Oh, sure, so we're doing NK CMS for 26 years, 5091 02:46:15,300 --> 02:46:17,020 before I worked for Cadbury's. 5092 02:46:17,020 --> 02:46:17,980 - NK Ultra. 5093 02:46:17,980 --> 02:46:18,820 - What we are selling for Cadbury's? 5094 02:46:18,820 --> 02:46:19,640 - Sorry? 5095 02:46:19,640 --> 02:46:21,200 - What we are selling for Cadbury's? 5096 02:46:21,200 --> 02:46:22,040 - Cadbury's? 5097 02:46:22,040 --> 02:46:23,860 - Yeah, chocolate, chocolate, okay. 5098 02:46:23,860 --> 02:46:27,600 Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. 5099 02:46:27,600 --> 02:46:28,740 That's fine. 5100 02:46:28,740 --> 02:46:29,580 - Soap anyway. 5101 02:46:29,580 --> 02:46:31,580 - That's fine, thank you. - Wasn't soap. 5102 02:46:31,580 --> 02:46:34,100 - And tell me this, your relationship with Dee Forbes. 5103 02:46:34,100 --> 02:46:34,940 - Yes. 5104 02:46:36,140 --> 02:46:38,840 - The senior staff at RT, Dave described that you had 5105 02:46:38,840 --> 02:46:40,840 a very close relationship with Dee Forbes. 5106 02:46:40,840 --> 02:46:41,720 - Yeah, I saw that. 5107 02:46:41,720 --> 02:46:43,480 - Yeah, I did, yeah. 5108 02:46:43,480 --> 02:46:46,900 - A close relationship is in a room with lawyers and accountants, 5109 02:46:46,900 --> 02:46:49,280 and not a cup of tea between you, never had met for lunch, 5110 02:46:49,280 --> 02:46:50,120 never met for dinner. 5111 02:46:50,120 --> 02:46:51,080 I don't know the lady. 5112 02:46:51,080 --> 02:46:52,780 I've always found her to be terribly professional. 5113 02:46:52,780 --> 02:46:54,400 I'm working hard during COVID and everything else. 5114 02:46:54,400 --> 02:46:55,400 I don't know the lady. 5115 02:46:55,400 --> 02:47:00,320 And I would only ever meet in class, in a contract, 5116 02:47:00,320 --> 02:47:02,840 or where we're at, or what can we do? 5117 02:47:02,840 --> 02:47:04,840 You know, so I don't know her. 5118 02:47:04,840 --> 02:47:07,220 - Sorry, I've met her, but I'd like... 5119 02:47:07,220 --> 02:47:12,220 - Yeah, and I know I'm disrespectful to you, but you come from my background selling chocolate. 5120 02:47:12,220 --> 02:47:13,340 - Yeah. 5121 02:47:13,340 --> 02:47:17,220 - And now you're negotiating on behalf of the top stars in the country. 5122 02:47:17,220 --> 02:47:19,220 You know, and great success to you. 5123 02:47:19,220 --> 02:47:33,600 - Why did you not discuss your well-paid employment with Jackie Brosnan? 5124 02:47:33,600 --> 02:47:35,980 - You're well-paid in terms of when you're negotiating. 5125 02:47:35,980 --> 02:47:36,980 - What... 5126 02:47:36,980 --> 02:47:37,980 - With Jackie Brosnan? 5127 02:47:37,980 --> 02:47:40,980 - Tell me briefly what that leverage drives from. 5128 02:47:40,980 --> 02:47:45,980 Because RT have told us previously in this committee room, the Public Accounts Committee, that... 5129 02:47:45,980 --> 02:47:45,980 - Sure. 5130 02:47:45,980 --> 02:47:46,980 - That... - That... 5131 02:47:46,980 --> 02:47:50,980 - Mr. Nopadi and other, you know, very popular stars... 5132 02:47:50,980 --> 02:47:51,480 - Yeah. 5133 02:47:51,480 --> 02:47:52,980 - ...and very good here... - Nintendo Game Boy! 5134 02:47:52,980 --> 02:47:53,980 - ...would walk, right? 5135 02:47:53,980 --> 02:47:56,480 - You have said no, that's not the case here today. 5136 02:47:56,480 --> 02:47:59,480 - So what does that leverage come from? - Don't address with me all the time! 5137 02:47:59,480 --> 02:48:03,860 - So, erm, I'd say exactly where... and... - Tell me he's about to say... 5138 02:48:03,860 --> 02:48:08,860 - I'm gonna just say, I come from a working class background. I come from very, very hard work... 5139 02:48:08,860 --> 02:48:13,740 - I come from a chocolate background. - ...work class background. Both my parents worked very hard. 5140 02:48:13,740 --> 02:48:19,860 And all they ever said to us was, "You work hard, and then you work harder, and if you want something, then you work... then you work hard again." 5141 02:48:19,860 --> 02:48:22,480 - So for me... - I accept that. - So for me... 5142 02:48:22,480 --> 02:48:23,480 - Fucking shit! 5143 02:48:23,480 --> 02:48:25,480 - Shit! Shit childhood! 5144 02:48:25,480 --> 02:48:30,480 - Yeah, you work hard, you work hard again, and then you work hard after that. - Oh, great! 5145 02:48:30,480 --> 02:48:35,480 - When... when... that's life, is it? - Yeah! It's a load of fucking work. 5146 02:48:35,480 --> 02:48:38,480 And then you get a Cadbury's chocolate bar at the end of it. Maybe! 5147 02:48:38,480 --> 02:48:43,480 - I have leverage. I manage people that have no management. I manage people that have no union, that have no representatives. 5148 02:48:43,480 --> 02:48:47,480 - I work with people that have contact only. - Can I cut to the chase? Can I cut to the chase? 5149 02:48:47,480 --> 02:48:51,480 - Sure, sure, sorry, sorry. - Anybody that's ever done a bit of winning and dealing will know this. 5150 02:48:51,480 --> 02:49:03,480 - Right? When you're sitting there, you know, and it's whoever blinks first, right? And you're there, and you're negotiating with the top finance people, or legal people, or indeed with the Director General. 5151 02:49:03,480 --> 02:49:12,480 - Where does that leverage derive from? Because there's a clear contradiction between your position, right? And you come from a background of sales, you know, and they get selling chocolate, and they're not being derived, but that's just... 5152 02:49:12,480 --> 02:49:15,480 - Sure. - And fair play to you. You worked your way up. - Yeah, yeah. 5153 02:49:15,480 --> 02:49:20,480 but you know where does that leverage come from you're not giving me an answer to this 5154 02:49:20,480 --> 02:49:23,600 I don't understand what you mean by leverage I don't understand that 5155 02:49:23,600 --> 02:49:28,100 where does the power in other words you are bartending power you need bartending power 5156 02:49:28,100 --> 02:49:32,020 when you're wheeling and dealing and when you're you know when you're involved in sales 5157 02:49:32,020 --> 02:49:34,040 wheeling and dealing 5158 02:49:34,040 --> 02:49:40,980 he's saying wheeling and dealing makes him sound like a bit of a fucking wide boy 5159 02:49:40,980 --> 02:50:01,400 leveraged I come from a reno background my parents had a five and then worked their way up to a McGann 5160 02:50:01,400 --> 02:50:06,440 then eventually got themselves a lagoon 5161 02:50:06,440 --> 02:50:25,760 script courtesy of asda tesco there thank you asda tesco thank you very much for the script there 5162 02:50:25,760 --> 02:50:32,820 100 million in commercial revenue and in fairness it's a hugely it was a hugely successful commercial 5163 02:50:32,820 --> 02:50:39,740 operation they like in 2001 they took in 148 million in rt purely in commercial they're not licensed so 5164 02:50:39,740 --> 02:50:44,820 it's a it's a big you've outlined that very well and thanks for that so just just in relation to 5165 02:50:44,820 --> 02:50:50,400 some people in rt you know we have looking at some of the documents come across to me that you have 5166 02:50:50,400 --> 02:50:57,460 significant influence and significant power in terms of brian stanley off the way and leash 5167 02:50:57,460 --> 02:51:04,520 the real director general at rt is noel shim fein 5168 02:51:04,520 --> 02:51:15,360 that's what's being said not by somebody not by somebody on the street corner this is by people who are working in rt 5169 02:51:15,360 --> 02:51:22,960 okay it's you know it's so it's so ridiculous we do deals and we and we do contracts okay for for 5170 02:51:22,960 --> 02:51:28,940 our people you know i might be in rte and can i move six times six times in a year you know but 5171 02:51:28,940 --> 02:51:34,880 but equally another adapter guys another adapter can i move to one of those deals for a moment 5172 02:51:34,880 --> 02:51:40,000 just in relation to the renault deal the tripartite deal yourselves renault and rt 5173 02:51:40,000 --> 02:51:49,000 apartheid it's a one-year deal from from october 2020 to december 21 um so we've been told from the 5174 02:51:49,000 --> 02:51:55,460 start that's a three-year deal but it wasn't a three-year deal the taxpayers the taxpayers pocket 5175 02:51:55,460 --> 02:52:00,840 thank you very much read it read it carefully he read it it's a three-year three-year deal i'm gonna 5176 02:52:00,840 --> 02:52:06,620 talk like this the rest is three three your fucking three euro deal then there's nowhere in the contract 5177 02:52:06,620 --> 02:52:12,940 fucking three euro meal deal five-year deal yeah we signed the contract right right and can i ask 5178 02:52:12,940 --> 02:52:20,460 you this and that's and you would you would be used to signing contracts right uh why why did you expect 5179 02:52:20,460 --> 02:52:27,780 why do you not discuss don't obsess with me all the time when this is only a one-year deal again um 5180 02:52:27,780 --> 02:52:33,440 why the relationship is with is with renault and the sponsor i started renault and rte 5181 02:52:33,440 --> 02:52:38,760 and all i actually want them to all i want them to underwrite was that if the sponsor changed her 5182 02:52:38,760 --> 02:52:43,480 legally mr kelly hold on now you're signing the deal and you know that unless it's nailed down in that 5183 02:52:43,480 --> 02:52:50,120 signed on the dotted line right it doesn't stand for anything isn't that correct you know that we we 5184 02:52:50,120 --> 02:52:57,220 we had as i said we created we had a separate contract okay for ryan to do this outside of his radio tv 5185 02:52:57,220 --> 02:53:02,540 and tell me why is there no figure mentioned in in it there is no figure mentioned of 75 000 5186 02:53:02,540 --> 02:53:08,680 well why is that sorry in the pack um in the invoice and the instructions and the instructions 5187 02:53:08,680 --> 02:53:13,640 everything's there i mean you're rubbish to say that they're running do you minimize and they called him the chocolate girl 5188 02:53:13,640 --> 02:53:19,780 the primary document is because he got the best fucking deal for his client 5189 02:53:19,780 --> 02:53:23,500 so they call him the chocolate man 5190 02:53:23,500 --> 02:53:28,660 you figure i'm not signed up for a three-year deal but you're working on the basis that has three-year deals right 5191 02:53:28,660 --> 02:53:32,780 uh wrapped in bits of silver broke it up and swallowed 5192 02:53:32,780 --> 02:53:38,780 why and i haven't heard a clear explanation for this why was this only signed on the 21st of april this year 5193 02:53:38,780 --> 02:53:45,160 when the 10 10 20 hit the fan because it was a working document the first one was supposed to be 20 then 21 22 5194 02:53:45,160 --> 02:53:51,640 so that's that's why to be honest with you it was it was a working document in so far as it was about 5195 02:53:51,640 --> 02:53:57,980 mr kelly you're asking me and the committee and the public to believe here today and just let me tell you what you're asking to believe 5196 02:53:57,980 --> 02:54:03,220 there's asking to believe that you sign that you'll enter into an agreement not 5197 02:54:03,220 --> 02:54:08,440 excuse me not signed to this year right the dairy milk deals 5198 02:54:08,440 --> 02:54:18,000 what uh jack connolly there i heard that when he said the 10 10 20 hit the fan what does that mean when he said the 10 10 20 hit the fan 5199 02:54:18,000 --> 02:54:24,700 what's that the 10 10 20 is that code for is that like cb radio code for shit 5200 02:54:24,700 --> 02:54:31,640 professional agent right and people say you're very successful oh it's fertilizer you mean to tell me that you entered into this 5201 02:54:31,640 --> 02:54:48,940 you did not sell uh neve mccormick signed on 21st of the fourth on behalf of you and mr torbardy 21st of the fourth 23 and can i ask you this an rt never signed it there's no rt signature on it 5202 02:54:48,940 --> 02:54:54,680 and let me just say this here what's also incredible is the second last line in the agreement says 5203 02:54:55,200 --> 02:55:00,380 one signed by all parties disagreement will constitute a legally binding agreement a legal 5204 02:55:00,380 --> 02:55:07,720 a legal document nk ultra is after you he wants to get you a good deal with reno and the boys 5205 02:55:07,720 --> 02:55:13,720 now you were telling me you went along in a winging a prayer with four won't be paying no license thanks 5206 02:55:13,720 --> 02:55:19,480 for the tip in the taxpayers pocket thank you very much signed this year you know no figures mentioned in it 5207 02:55:19,480 --> 02:55:33,340 another exasperated exhalation look at ryan's face he is fucking sick of this at the moment he wants to get out of there but he knows that there's still at least another four hours 5208 02:55:33,340 --> 02:55:39,880 to go here it's it's torturous imagine being ryan in this situation knowing there's four hours to go 5209 02:55:39,880 --> 02:55:45,320 that's exactly the face i'd be making as well let's just rewind there just to hear that exhalation 5210 02:55:45,320 --> 02:55:57,620 contracts you know and i know that you don't sign contracts or you don't enter into agreements or contracts on the basis of a document like that you know that i'm not correct in saying that but rt had brokered the contract 5211 02:55:57,620 --> 02:56:13,740 again the player is it's the undoing of the fucking stream here and brief material provided for today's meeting who'd have thought there'd have been another player in the country that wasn't up to scratch and then if you right click on it we get the 5212 02:56:13,740 --> 02:56:30,340 before i go can i just briefly say just to say uh thank you to the committee for the courtesy which which they've afforded us with their questions today i'm sure there are more pressing issues in the world but at the same time that's not to belittle what we were talking about today thank you for your time and thank you for sharing it 5213 02:56:30,340 --> 02:56:48,780 thank you very much lads 5214 02:56:48,780 --> 02:56:51,720 ah brilliant lads 5215 02:56:51,720 --> 02:56:53,420 bit of lunch 5216 02:56:53,420 --> 02:56:55,520 bit of lunch guys bit of lunch 5217 02:56:55,520 --> 02:56:56,300 bit of lunch 5218 02:56:56,300 --> 02:56:59,780 and a big big big big 5219 02:56:59,780 --> 02:57:00,680 thank you as well 5220 02:57:00,680 --> 02:57:03,640 to Dylan Gaffney there 5221 02:57:03,640 --> 02:57:06,000 Dylan Gaffney thank you very much 5222 02:57:06,000 --> 02:57:07,660 for your beautiful 5223 02:57:07,660 --> 02:57:10,020 beautiful beautiful tip it's been 5224 02:57:10,020 --> 02:57:12,120 um it's been interesting 5225 02:57:12,120 --> 02:57:12,920 Tom has it 5226 02:57:12,920 --> 02:57:16,640 it has been there's been a lot of revelations 5227 02:57:16,640 --> 02:57:18,000 uh Cadbury's chocolate 5228 02:57:18,000 --> 02:57:20,100 was mentioned at some 5229 02:57:20,100 --> 02:57:21,520 stage um 5230 02:57:21,520 --> 02:57:23,980 we had a 5231 02:57:23,980 --> 02:57:25,720 situation where 5232 02:57:25,720 --> 02:57:28,080 Ryan was thanking everybody at the 5233 02:57:28,080 --> 02:57:28,640 end there 5234 02:57:29,220 --> 02:57:30,460 trying to maybe get 5235 02:57:30,460 --> 02:57:33,280 get on the right side of the 5236 02:57:33,280 --> 02:57:34,640 the situation the people there 5237 02:57:34,640 --> 02:57:39,480 I hope you're all right there Tom 5238 02:57:39,480 --> 02:57:40,600 you sound a little bit like you 5239 02:57:40,600 --> 02:57:41,160 you need to 5240 02:57:41,160 --> 02:57:42,780 cop up a lung 5241 02:57:42,780 --> 02:57:44,320 but um 5242 02:57:44,320 --> 02:57:48,000 yeah nothing really too shocking 5243 02:57:48,000 --> 02:57:54,580 and it was such a cop out Ryan's answer to the big smoking gun question from the fella 5244 02:57:54,580 --> 02:58:17,980 with the red hair who asked him about did you not fucking uh think you know the payments when you saw them published that it was obvious that they were wrong like and nobody just said I should have been more inquisitive so uh yeah I don't know maybe if you're on that much you're probably like you don't even pay any heat on the air. 5245 02:58:17,980 --> 02:58:30,220 to the fucking reports anyway you know or you actually don't even know how much again but I don't believe that but hey what's done is done and can't be undone. 5246 02:58:30,220 --> 02:58:39,260 knee-deep in freddos as antonio prola and also earlier on you did say the exhalation 5247 02:58:39,260 --> 02:58:46,300 big exhalation from uh ryan was when the edible had hit ryan tub of caldbury roses thanks very 5248 02:58:46,300 --> 02:58:54,700 much and phantom farter so the highlights really for me were uh somebody letting rip in there and 5249 02:58:54,700 --> 02:59:00,820 then the obvious disgust on the face of one of the diligent journalists who's there doing the job 5250 02:59:00,820 --> 02:59:07,200 reporting and i doubt that the uh the smell of farts and whatever is gonna get printed about you 5251 02:59:07,200 --> 02:59:13,820 know it's probably always gonna be focused on the answers that were given noel kelly nk ultra 5252 02:59:13,820 --> 02:59:22,620 spoke for most of the the session there um there was also a revelation of a new name for ryan 5253 02:59:22,620 --> 02:59:30,940 tubberdy the toy man um which was one i've never heard of before what else was there now there was 5254 02:59:30,940 --> 02:59:36,340 is there anything else what what else was there oh yeah uh noel kelly constantly touching his face 5255 02:59:36,340 --> 02:59:42,900 that's known as an adapter uh because i'm a psychologist now because i watch loads of 5256 02:59:42,900 --> 02:59:48,340 youtube videos about people who aren't really psychologists saying psychologistic stuff about 5257 02:59:48,340 --> 02:59:57,540 people analysis and all that um so the adapters the uh the self the self-soothing would indicate that there 5258 02:59:57,540 --> 03:00:08,340 was uh an uncomfortable atmosphere and feeling there with nk ultra the toy man is coming for you noel kelly 5259 03:00:08,340 --> 03:00:16,660 nuremberg trials the nigerian cousin this was another one so another uh situation which came 5260 03:00:16,660 --> 03:00:22,660 out of the blue at the woodwork uh your man kelly i think his name was saying that i've got nigerian 5261 03:00:22,660 --> 03:00:33,140 cousins send him emails um there was obviously uh we mentioned the chocolate the young chef was another one who is that is that 5262 03:00:33,140 --> 03:00:40,740 uh what's his face okay i don't even know i can't remember his bloody name is that the good looking fella 5263 03:00:42,180 --> 03:00:50,260 not not dylan don't i can't remember uh name the chef i'm trying to think of the chef scumbly and that's the name 5264 03:00:50,260 --> 03:00:57,940 donald yeah donald skeehan uh ryan in your man's kitchen five days a week that was another situation 5265 03:00:57,940 --> 03:01:04,580 going on there he let that slip as well that ryan was not only the toast of the town and rte the toy 5266 03:01:04,580 --> 03:01:15,460 man so to speak the three four fiver the reno hatchbacker he was also in people's kitchens you know so i mean 5267 03:01:15,460 --> 03:01:20,500 that's something that needs to be looked at that's going to be another big story and maybe maybe another 5268 03:01:20,500 --> 03:01:26,340 separate inquiry committee is going to have to be called to to deal with that did he have was it was 5269 03:01:26,340 --> 03:01:34,100 he allowed was he trespassing was it something that i mean it sounded to me like your man was kind of all 5270 03:01:34,100 --> 03:01:39,940 right with that you know he was like you're in my house five days a week uh i got called donald skeehan 5271 03:01:39,940 --> 03:01:48,500 skeehan at least once a week when i worked in duns says alistair that's not bad i suppose eric miskila 5272 03:01:48,500 --> 03:01:54,180 thank you very much for your comments in the nigerian cousins were looking for spare flip-flops since they 5273 03:01:54,180 --> 03:01:59,540 have the good weather for them donald skeehan thanks for the tip there ryan tub of cavalry roses thank you 5274 03:01:59,540 --> 03:02:06,820 very much as well uh tubs for toys foundation saying vincent to paul what about vincent vincent to paul 5275 03:02:06,820 --> 03:02:12,820 where when will he be dragged in what about the pony remember all the chat about ponies 5276 03:02:13,860 --> 03:02:21,060 uh somebody saying to uh nk ultra that he was a wheeling he was wheeling and dealing you know just 5277 03:02:21,060 --> 03:02:28,980 just phrases like that the kind of infer you know an an air of murkiness around the whole 5278 03:02:30,660 --> 03:02:36,420 contract and negotiation stuff that he was on about there fans in the air he was doing a lot of jazz 5279 03:02:36,420 --> 03:02:45,940 hands as well what do you think tom oh yeah crazy bit of business altogether my personal favorite was 5280 03:02:45,940 --> 03:02:53,380 the 10 10 20 hitting the fan i love that it was beautiful as somebody in the chat said there there was 5281 03:02:53,380 --> 03:03:00,260 such a midlands thing to say yeah well i actually didn't know i mean i've never done a bit any farm 5282 03:03:00,260 --> 03:03:05,620 work or anything like that myself i was pure tony and actually i hadn't done any work anyway do you know 5283 03:03:06,260 --> 03:03:13,300 um but you you got that that that that didn't go over your head tom no it did not i mean i'm actually 5284 03:03:13,300 --> 03:03:19,140 watching from uh from johnny's and there was a big laughter when that happened a few of the lads have 5285 03:03:19,140 --> 03:03:26,020 come in on the afternoon we're having a few jars it's nice nice feeling what feeling the feeling of being pissed 5286 03:03:27,540 --> 03:03:35,780 exacto mondo it's a beautiful field but do do do drink responsibly but it is lovely but it will 5287 03:03:35,780 --> 03:03:37,380 fuck you up if you do it too much 5288 03:03:40,660 --> 03:03:46,420 wise words there from tom harry harry scheitz thanks very much right price tubs thanks very much cash 5289 03:03:46,420 --> 03:03:51,860 and carry may have been involved you say arty paid money out of their slush foot this is what 5290 03:03:51,860 --> 03:03:56,980 somebody is saying in the chat that's not my opinion if arty are watching what are people are going to try 5291 03:03:56,980 --> 03:04:02,820 and sue me or anything like that paid money for out of their slush fund for nk ultra's charity dinner 5292 03:04:02,820 --> 03:04:07,860 for chernobyl what about that one that's the first i've heard about chernobyl being mentioned hopefully 5293 03:04:09,940 --> 03:04:15,380 hopefully there's nothing bad going on or dodgy going on there i mean obviously in chernobyl there was a 5294 03:04:15,380 --> 03:04:19,940 lot of dodginess but i think it's okay now i believe there's people going on holidays there and stuff 5295 03:04:21,380 --> 03:04:25,300 yeah i was actually over there for a few weeks there i went on holiday 5296 03:04:26,420 --> 03:04:33,940 you did and what was it like it was it was very hot and uh i did feel a bit even though there was no 5297 03:04:33,940 --> 03:04:39,220 sunny it was cloudy it was cloudy enough but i i came away with a few red patches on the skin like 5298 03:04:40,660 --> 03:04:43,220 yeah would that would that not be radiation or anything now 5299 03:04:44,820 --> 03:04:52,500 it might be but look try had the factor 50 on yeah i i'm not sure a sun cream will protect you 5300 03:04:53,220 --> 03:05:00,660 you know nuclear kind of radiation but well that's that's what i did that's what i that's what i had on 5301 03:05:01,700 --> 03:05:11,300 i think you need a hazmat suit and a geiger counter pure radiation vibes uh value added tubs says kevin 5302 03:05:11,300 --> 03:05:13,320 and Joyce, you be Gamma Ray 5303 03:05:13,320 --> 03:05:15,400 all the same, Antonio Perala, and you'd 5304 03:05:15,400 --> 03:05:17,320 be fairly chenobbled, says 5305 03:05:17,320 --> 03:05:19,160 Simon Burke. 5306 03:05:19,500 --> 03:05:21,440 I think that's all we have 5307 03:05:21,440 --> 03:05:23,220 for the committee today. 5308 03:05:23,280 --> 03:05:25,340 It says meeting at 4pm. Does anybody 5309 03:05:25,340 --> 03:05:27,400 in the chat know whether or not this is going to 5310 03:05:27,400 --> 03:05:29,380 be coming back on? Because 5311 03:05:29,380 --> 03:05:31,440 it says 5312 03:05:31,440 --> 03:05:33,320 the Joint Justice Committee 5313 03:05:33,320 --> 03:05:35,400 or Joint Committee on Justice is going to be on, but I don't 5314 03:05:35,400 --> 03:05:37,440 think that's anything to do with Ryan's private savings. 5315 03:05:37,660 --> 03:05:38,760 Thanks very much for the tip there. 5316 03:05:39,520 --> 03:05:41,140 Tubbs is back at 3pm, says 5317 03:05:41,140 --> 03:05:43,120 MMCR96. 5318 03:05:46,120 --> 03:05:47,320 Aiden the Average says not 5319 03:05:47,320 --> 03:05:49,560 until Thursday. Thanks for the stream, 5320 03:05:50,280 --> 03:05:51,500 Sean. No problem. Thanks for 5321 03:05:51,500 --> 03:05:53,700 tuning in. And Tupac 5322 03:05:53,700 --> 03:05:55,160 Hologram is going to be on now. 5323 03:05:56,140 --> 03:05:57,600 It's Jimmy. Okay, another one at 3, 5324 03:05:57,660 --> 03:05:59,060 but I'm not sure that's going to be 5325 03:05:59,060 --> 03:06:01,440 NK Ultra 5326 03:06:01,440 --> 03:06:03,640 and the boys. What about 5327 03:06:03,640 --> 03:06:05,700 that solicitor? 5328 03:06:06,660 --> 03:06:07,700 He was doing some 5329 03:06:07,700 --> 03:06:09,360 work. Oh, I forgot about the fucking 5330 03:06:09,360 --> 03:06:11,980 the sport is on the site. 5331 03:06:12,100 --> 03:06:14,780 The fucking I was I was meant to watch the Tour de France. 5332 03:06:15,620 --> 03:06:17,500 Maybe a bit of fucking tennis as well. 5333 03:06:17,780 --> 03:06:19,140 Just chill out watching that. 5334 03:06:19,280 --> 03:06:20,800 Then but I forgot that this was on. 5335 03:06:20,860 --> 03:06:21,760 And once it came on, 5336 03:06:21,820 --> 03:06:24,340 I thought we have to get back on the stream there. 5337 03:06:24,340 --> 03:06:26,140 Back at 3, just different committees. 5338 03:06:26,140 --> 03:06:31,800 I have been downloading games to beat the band. 5339 03:06:32,260 --> 03:06:33,800 I've Dead Space. 5340 03:06:34,200 --> 03:06:37,140 I have got Cyberpunk in my possession. 5341 03:06:37,780 --> 03:06:38,940 I've a load more. 5342 03:06:39,040 --> 03:06:42,200 I've old classics from PS2, PS3 classics. 5343 03:06:42,360 --> 03:06:44,840 I've got the PS3 emulator running on the PC. 5344 03:06:46,200 --> 03:06:47,580 I've all the games bought. 5345 03:06:48,000 --> 03:06:49,940 Don't be fucking trying to sue me about that. 5346 03:06:50,240 --> 03:06:52,580 I can prove to you that I've got the fucking discs. 5347 03:06:53,440 --> 03:06:55,020 If it comes down to the crunch, 5348 03:06:55,100 --> 03:06:55,760 I'll prove to you. 5349 03:06:56,340 --> 03:06:57,460 Tubbs and Trials. 5350 03:06:57,940 --> 03:06:59,260 Thank you very much for the tip there. 5351 03:06:59,740 --> 03:07:02,120 So, you know, that is kind of what I'm 5352 03:07:02,120 --> 03:07:03,780 trying to get going at. 5353 03:07:03,880 --> 03:07:05,720 It's just selecting the right game 5354 03:07:05,720 --> 03:07:07,440 and having the right vibe. 5355 03:07:07,440 --> 03:07:08,880 and then going for that vibe 5356 03:07:08,880 --> 03:07:11,580 and seizing the day car pay DM style. 5357 03:07:13,100 --> 03:07:17,680 But I'm not sure what time or when that is, 5358 03:07:17,760 --> 03:07:19,500 but please believe me. 5359 03:07:19,560 --> 03:07:23,060 It is my biggest intention to get back in 5360 03:07:23,060 --> 03:07:26,020 and just needs to be the right fucking scenario. 5361 03:07:26,120 --> 03:07:26,900 I can't describe it. 5362 03:07:27,180 --> 03:07:28,380 I can't explain what it is. 5363 03:07:29,240 --> 03:07:29,480 Do you know? 5364 03:07:30,980 --> 03:07:31,940 Can't explain what it is. 5365 03:07:31,940 --> 03:07:33,580 This is this. 5366 03:07:33,760 --> 03:07:36,100 When this committee came on and I saw it was on, 5367 03:07:36,360 --> 03:07:37,960 then it was like, this has to be, 5368 03:07:38,080 --> 03:07:39,940 I need to watch this and need to see 5369 03:07:39,940 --> 03:07:42,640 people commenting and chiming in with funny stuff. 5370 03:07:43,520 --> 03:07:45,900 It'll just be a big buzz and I'll buzz off it. 5371 03:07:46,380 --> 03:07:49,500 So I kind of didn't really have any of that feeling 5372 03:07:49,500 --> 03:07:52,700 regarding games, video games, even cyberpunk. 5373 03:07:52,780 --> 03:07:55,160 I started playing it and it's great and everything. 5374 03:07:55,280 --> 03:07:57,880 It looks amazing, but it doesn't really, 5375 03:07:58,080 --> 03:08:00,940 it's not like Fallout in that it's not a, 5376 03:08:03,260 --> 03:08:05,840 it's not an atmosphere that I kind of, 5377 03:08:06,380 --> 03:08:08,320 I'm like, yeah, I want to play more of that. 5378 03:08:09,940 --> 03:08:10,900 I could be wrong though. 5379 03:08:10,940 --> 03:08:12,400 I just have a short attention span. 5380 03:08:12,500 --> 03:08:15,700 It's been ruined and it's getting worse by the day 5381 03:08:15,700 --> 03:08:19,660 because all the media and shite I consume is just like fast. 5382 03:08:20,560 --> 03:08:21,460 Haven't read a book. 5383 03:08:21,520 --> 03:08:22,420 Haven't read a newspaper. 5384 03:08:22,540 --> 03:08:26,740 Haven't read any articles that are longer than fucking 100, 5385 03:08:26,880 --> 03:08:27,600 200 words. 5386 03:08:28,540 --> 03:08:32,960 So maybe the streaming could be a testament to being able to build up that 5387 03:08:32,960 --> 03:08:36,880 ability to be able to stay focused on one thing. 5388 03:08:37,960 --> 03:08:40,480 But anyway, I'm talking shite here. 5389 03:08:40,580 --> 03:08:43,520 I think we have streamed for an hour or two, three hours. 5390 03:08:43,760 --> 03:08:45,760 That's not bad to try and get back into the sway of things. 5391 03:08:45,840 --> 03:08:47,680 Anyway, Harry Shites, thanks very much for the tip there. 5392 03:08:47,760 --> 03:08:50,680 Ryan better be the, bring the K for the condoms. 5393 03:08:50,780 --> 03:08:51,940 You said, I don't know what that means. 5394 03:08:52,000 --> 03:08:52,760 And actually it's not, 5395 03:08:52,840 --> 03:08:56,500 not my opinion or not my words there that someone has wrote that. 5396 03:08:56,660 --> 03:08:57,980 Although I have said that. 5397 03:08:58,060 --> 03:08:59,960 So, I mean, I could be held liable for any sort of, 5398 03:09:01,520 --> 03:09:05,260 I won't bother, won't bother talking anymore because it's just going to give 5399 03:09:05,260 --> 03:09:07,360 people different ideas maybe. 5400 03:09:07,680 --> 03:09:07,980 Right. 5401 03:09:08,060 --> 03:09:09,040 We'll talk to you later on. 5402 03:09:09,820 --> 03:09:11,140 Thanks very much for joining us. 5403 03:09:11,220 --> 03:09:12,320 It's been a wonderful afternoon. 5404 03:09:12,780 --> 03:09:16,380 And unfortunately we didn't get to see Tupac Shakur, the hologram, 5405 03:09:16,480 --> 03:09:17,960 but that's fast way for you. 5406 03:09:18,600 --> 03:09:20,120 Good night and God bless. 5407 03:09:20,280 --> 03:09:21,480 And we'll hopefully see you soon. 5408 03:09:21,840 --> 03:09:23,300 Hopefully these boys are going to be back again. 5409 03:09:23,380 --> 03:09:23,540 Are they? 5410 03:09:23,620 --> 03:09:25,080 If they are, then we'll be back. 5411 03:09:25,080 --> 03:09:26,820 if there's any more funny stuff 5412 03:09:26,820 --> 03:09:29,520 that's on in the committee rooms or whatever, I'll try and get back. 5413 03:09:29,540 --> 03:09:31,600 I don't think we're going to match that level of 5414 03:09:31,600 --> 03:09:33,160 uncomfortability 5415 03:09:33,160 --> 03:09:35,520 and sweatiness. It was a sweaty 5416 03:09:35,520 --> 03:09:36,720 room. It was a sweatbox. 5417 03:09:37,700 --> 03:09:39,340 But we'll talk to you later on. Anyway, 5418 03:09:39,460 --> 03:09:40,640 thanks very much for joining us. 5419 03:09:41,520 --> 03:09:43,600 Yep, thanks very much, folks. Hopefully you're 5420 03:09:43,600 --> 03:09:45,540 getting on well and all the best, 5421 03:09:45,660 --> 03:09:47,560 you. Thanks very much for joining 5422 03:09:47,560 --> 03:09:47,820 us. 5423 03:09:50,540 --> 03:09:51,160 That's that. 5424 03:09:51,500 --> 03:09:53,080 We'll talk to you later, lads. Bye-bye. 5425 03:09:53,080 --> 03:09:55,080 ... 5426 03:09:55,080 --> 03:09:57,080 ... 5427 03:09:57,080 --> 03:09:59,080 ... 5428 03:09:59,080 --> 03:10:01,080 ... 5429 03:10:01,080 --> 03:10:03,080 ... 5430 03:10:03,080 --> 03:10:05,080 ... 5431 03:10:05,080 --> 03:10:07,080 ... 5432 03:10:07,080 --> 03:10:07,080 ... 5433 03:10:07,080 --> 03:10:17,080 ... 5434 03:10:17,080 --> 03:10:17,080 ... 5435 03:10:17,080 --> 03:10:27,080 ... 5436 03:10:27,080 --> 03:10:27,080 ... 5437 03:10:27,080 --> 03:10:37,080 ... 5438 03:10:37,080 --> 03:10:37,080 ... 5439 03:10:37,080 --> 03:10:47,080 ... 5440 03:10:47,080 --> 03:10:47,080 ... 5441 03:10:47,080 --> 03:10:47,080 ... 5442 03:10:47,080 --> 03:10:57,080 ... 5443 03:10:57,080 --> 03:10:57,080 ... 5444 03:10:57,080 --> 03:10:57,080 ... 5445 03:10:57,080 --> 03:11:07,080 ... 5446 03:11:07,080 --> 03:11:07,080 ... 5447 03:11:07,080 --> 03:11:17,080 ... 5448 03:11:17,080 --> 03:11:17,080 ... 5449 03:11:17,080 --> 03:11:27,080 ... 5450 03:11:27,080 --> 03:11:27,080 ... 5451 03:11:27,080 --> 03:11:27,080 ...