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as Iran has launched retaliatory

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defended what it called

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pre-emptive strikes on military

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and nuclear targets in Iran,

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claiming the Tehran regime

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posed a danger to its very

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survival.

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military and nuclear targets in

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Iran,

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with local media reporting that

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at least 78 people had been

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killed

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and more than 300 injured.

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Iran's supreme leader warned of

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severe punishment for the

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strikes.

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In Washington, President Trump

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warned Tehran in the strongest

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possible words

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to make a nuclear deal.

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It's a crazy bit of war.

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It's a brand new war.

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And I tell you something, I

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think it's time to really,

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really knuckle down

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and get stuck in and settle in

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and get prepared as well

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because it's been a long time

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coming.

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These look like real enough

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rockets that are landing.

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It doesn't look like the Iron Dome

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is doing its utmost

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to stop these bad boys.

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That one has landed, look.

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You know, it's pretty, that's

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bigger than the, sorry, I'm

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pretty big on the screen there.

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That's, that's serious enough

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now compared to the last time.

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I remember there last year when

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we were looking at this and it

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was live

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and I was thinking, yeah, yeah,

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fuck all's gonna happen.

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It's grand.

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And with this now, it's a bit

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of a different beast, a

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different buzz.

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And I only came on to watch one

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thing and one thing in

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particular.

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That man right there.

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But I couldn't stop for

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noticing the explosion or the

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impact of the rocket there.

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What's your take on it?

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Do you know?

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What, what, what do you think?

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The line is open now.

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Satin Yahoo.

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I mean, they're kicking off on

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a Friday evening as well.

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So I think it's a, they've,

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they've factored that into the

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equation that the,

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the weekend is upon us.

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Liam Rogers, how are you?

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Thank you very much there for

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the tip.

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Just out in Clarny with the

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boys, you see.

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And here we are, look at that.

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Clarny with the boys right

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there.

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That's, are they, they're iron,

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they're iron domes.

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That's iron dome.

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But look.

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Iron dome failure.

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Fucking hell.

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Maybe that was an iron dome

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rocket that landed down on its

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own territory, no?

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As, as Rupert says there, iron

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don't.

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Fucking hell.

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Crazy bit of business

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altogether.

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Conrad, thank you very much.

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End of the world stream, is it?

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Well, it's great that you can

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still do the live stream.

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You can still do this live

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stream during any potential

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world war if it does break out.

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Look.

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I'm ready to fight.

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Once it happens, I will be

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there on the vanguard, on the

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front lines, doing my bit for

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whoever.

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That's just showed there.

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You know, that's not even up

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for debate.

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all of my experience doing live

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streams, you know, playing

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Metal Gear Solid, watching

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videos of computer shows from

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the 1980s.

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I think that's going to stand

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to me when it does come to the

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crunch.

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Don't forget, I've also watched

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plenty of videos of lads

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blowing the fuck out of each

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other out in the Ukraine.

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With guns and bombs, by the way.

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That sounds pretty fucking

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weird as an isolated statement.

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But with drone technology and

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all that sort of stuff.

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And it's rattled me, but it's

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already prepared me for what's

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going to happen when the

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fighting does start.

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Thanks very much, sir.

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Look, I don't know what the

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uncle is at at the moment.

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I know he's got the NCT

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tomorrow.

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really be able to get involved

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in any sort of particular

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fighting or war-based scenario

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because the car really does

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need to be roadworthy.

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If the guards are to stop him,

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you know, and the tyre is worn

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or heaven forbid, the little

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plate of metal that's above the,

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whatchamacallit, the exhaust,

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the heat.

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Is it a heat?

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Not a heat sink.

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A fucking heat guard.

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What do you call that fucking

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thing?

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If that's loose and rattling,

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then he's going to fail it.

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He needs to have those things

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fixed.

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It's a heat shield.

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Heat shield, Jake.

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You've got it right there.

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But feeling the NCT, that would

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be an absolute heartbreak for

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him.

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And my heart goes out to him,

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haven't you?

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Go and get that power NCT

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tomorrow.

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But Jerusalem looks fairly okay

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at the moment.

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Jerusalem, we know that's the

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place where many, many

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religions got their start.

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business has gone on out there

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ever since.

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fucking serene and calm at the

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of Jerusalem.

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They haven't seen any action.

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It's mainly been Tel Aviv.

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But we've got the live feed on

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And I will be able to go back

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to it once the results start to

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come in.

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the missiles lodging.

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reason why we have this shot up.

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Iranian TV, state TV is

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reporting that a third wave of

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missiles have been launched

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towards Israel.

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It's a third wave.

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Unbelievable.

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We don't have any further

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updates as to the fate of the

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pilots.

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Did someone just drop a bomb on

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this ship?

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Because that stuff was a blast.

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They have been shot down.

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Mark, are you still there?

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Speed.

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It's nice to have in a racing

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car, even a toy one.

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racing, trying to finish a job

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on your personal computer.

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Now, with all the talk of 20...

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Now, that is a bit too fucking

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low for my liking.

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I can't even hear it.

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Benefits of computer speed in

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benefits in terms of the cost?

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Well, this isn't the one I

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wanted to watch.

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I had this one.

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We'll get answers today.

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I was looking at stuff that I,

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you know, which episodes hadn't

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robots.

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I think robotics.

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A very early one as well.

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And it had the two lads crouching

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down at a robot.

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Hopefully you haven't seen this

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one.

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And that's a 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 4,

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3, 2, 1 situation.

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Get ready.

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Strap yourselves in.

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This is it.

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Forget Israel.

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Forget Iran.

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Let's go back in time.

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1983.

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Robots.

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Stuart Shaffey.

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The abacus.

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The printer.

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The printing press.

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Money counters.

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Chips.

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Hanging chads on punched holes.

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Computer chips.

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Silicone.

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Silicone dreams.

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Silicone nightmares.

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Micro Focus.

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Creators of visual programming

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tools for software.

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Micro Focus.

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Creating tools for distribution

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since 1983.

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Micro.

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Micro Focus.

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Such a fucking voice on that

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lad there.

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Sorry my mic is too low is it?

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I'll crank that up a smidgen.

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This fella's voice.

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Imagine.

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Having his voice.

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Imagine being related to him.

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Imagine he was your dad.

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Or someone.

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Micro Focus.

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tools for software development.

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Is pleased to provide major

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For the Computer Chronicles.

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The story of this continuing

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evolution.

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Welcome to the Computer Chronicles.

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I'm Stuart Shiffey.

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And I'm turning the wrong knob

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here.

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This is Gary Kildall.

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And this is Armatron.

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Our noisy little robot here.

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We're using Armatron to

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demonstrate some basic things

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that a robot can do.

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And even though this is a small...

298
00:10:27,420 --> 00:10:28,380
Two...

299
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Just two lads.

300
00:10:30,180 --> 00:10:31,240
Chilling out with the fucking

301
00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:32,800
little robot they've got.

302
00:10:33,180 --> 00:10:36,400
Are making some shit hot TV to

303
00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:36,940
boot.

304
00:10:36,940 --> 00:10:38,940
That was Computer Chronicles.

305
00:10:38,940 --> 00:10:39,940
That was...

306
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This is 1983.

307
00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:45,020
There's two men in suits.

308
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With a PC.

309
00:10:47,220 --> 00:10:48,060
A robot.

310
00:10:49,060 --> 00:10:51,200
And a whole lot of good vibes.

311
00:10:51,540 --> 00:10:53,020
Thank you very much Owen Morgue

312
00:10:53,020 --> 00:10:54,080
for the tip there.

313
00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:55,940
My fucking Bluetooth headset

314
00:10:55,940 --> 00:10:57,820
has just run out of battery.

315
00:10:57,820 --> 00:10:58,800
Has a big gun.

316
00:10:59,540 --> 00:11:00,460
Should have...

317
00:11:01,500 --> 00:11:02,400
Done my due diligence and

318
00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:03,820
charged them up.

319
00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:05,460
That's an absolute disgrace.

320
00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:08,560
Let me just see here.

321
00:11:08,620 --> 00:11:10,200
Sorry for this slight...

322
00:11:11,260 --> 00:11:12,460
Speed bump here to the absolute

323
00:11:12,460 --> 00:11:14,480
pace that we were seeing.

324
00:11:14,580 --> 00:11:15,630
I'm just going to rewind so you

325
00:11:15,630 --> 00:11:16,540
can see that intro.

326
00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:17,360
What's...

327
00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,050
Or the robots in the studio

328
00:11:19,050 --> 00:11:19,660
there.

329
00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:21,240
It's a lovely situation.

330
00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:22,640
Welcome to the Computer Chronicles.

331
00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:23,600
I'm Stuart Shiffey.

332
00:11:25,740 --> 00:11:26,300
Sound.

333
00:11:27,380 --> 00:11:28,760
Multi-output device.

334
00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,040
Shiffey.

335
00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,260
And I'm turning the wrong knob

336
00:11:36,260 --> 00:11:36,640
here.

337
00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,020
This is Gary Kildall.

338
00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:40,080
And this is Armatron.

339
00:11:40,180 --> 00:11:41,580
Our noisy little robot here.

340
00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:42,160
Armatron.

341
00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:43,480
We're using Armatron to

342
00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,150
demonstrate some of the basic

343
00:11:45,150 --> 00:11:46,840
things that a robot can do.

344
00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:47,840
And even though this is a small

345
00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:48,970
toy, it really does demonstrate

346
00:11:48,970 --> 00:11:49,600
those things.

347
00:11:49,660 --> 00:11:50,630
For example, this robot has a

348
00:11:50,630 --> 00:11:51,140
shoulder.

349
00:11:52,020 --> 00:11:53,720
Which can turn along that axis.

350
00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,410
It can lift it by its shoulder

351
00:11:55,410 --> 00:11:56,380
or come down.

352
00:11:56,820 --> 00:11:57,740
It's got an elbow.

353
00:11:58,100 --> 00:11:59,350
And what would it be used for

354
00:11:59,350 --> 00:12:00,100
exactly?

355
00:12:00,260 --> 00:12:02,600
Is this an industrial piece?

356
00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:03,580
Or is this a toy?

357
00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,140
It looks like a child's toy.

358
00:12:06,220 --> 00:12:06,700
Schnuffles.

359
00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:07,820
Thank you very much for the tip.

360
00:12:07,940 --> 00:12:08,420
Owen Morg.

361
00:12:08,660 --> 00:12:10,020
Sabbath specials.

362
00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:11,300
Loves to schlug.

363
00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:12,240
Thank you very much.

364
00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:14,130
See you in the trenches,

365
00:12:14,130 --> 00:12:15,020
Francis.

366
00:12:15,140 --> 00:12:16,140
Will the uncle be there to give

367
00:12:16,140 --> 00:12:16,620
us a lift?

368
00:12:16,820 --> 00:12:18,410
He will if he gets the car NCT'd

369
00:12:18,410 --> 00:12:20,180
successfully tomorrow.

370
00:12:20,260 --> 00:12:21,670
I mean, even if they fail him,

371
00:12:21,670 --> 00:12:22,540
it's...

372
00:12:22,540 --> 00:12:23,690
Police can show if he gets

373
00:12:23,690 --> 00:12:24,720
stopped by a guard.

374
00:12:25,100 --> 00:12:26,310
He can just say, look, I've had

375
00:12:26,310 --> 00:12:27,060
it checked.

376
00:12:27,180 --> 00:12:28,150
I'm going to get in this

377
00:12:28,150 --> 00:12:29,280
fucking thing sorted.

378
00:12:29,680 --> 00:12:30,860
Even though it's...

379
00:12:30,860 --> 00:12:32,500
What is the rules there?

380
00:12:32,620 --> 00:12:33,000
You know what I mean?

381
00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,080
There's a gray area.

382
00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,360
Obviously, you know, you're not

383
00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,320
allowed to drive a car that isn't

384
00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:39,400
roadworthy.

385
00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,800
They've deemed it not roadworthy.

386
00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:43,990
But you're going to get it

387
00:12:43,990 --> 00:12:44,280
fixed.

388
00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,200
I've never had any trouble like

389
00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:46,780
that.

390
00:12:46,820 --> 00:12:47,980
But I mean, you're not meant to

391
00:12:47,980 --> 00:12:49,230
be driving the fucking thing if

392
00:12:49,230 --> 00:12:50,280
it's not roadworthy.

393
00:12:51,580 --> 00:12:53,260
I think just as long as you

394
00:12:53,260 --> 00:12:55,260
just be careful and don't fuck

395
00:12:55,260 --> 00:12:57,310
up, then you're not going to

396
00:12:57,310 --> 00:12:58,260
get caught.

397
00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:59,140
It'll be grand, you know.

398
00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,510
And also, yeah, as Nigel says,

399
00:13:01,510 --> 00:13:03,620
it does depend on the guard you

400
00:13:03,620 --> 00:13:05,380
get on the day as well.

401
00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:10,290
It has a wrist, which it can

402
00:13:10,290 --> 00:13:11,840
move.

403
00:13:11,980 --> 00:13:14,500
And it has a hand, which...

404
00:13:14,500 --> 00:13:15,360
So you're not...

405
00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:16,540
So it's not insured.

406
00:13:17,940 --> 00:13:18,940
So if you...

407
00:13:19,620 --> 00:13:19,940
I'm only...

408
00:13:20,460 --> 00:13:22,200
You're only telling me this now.

409
00:13:22,260 --> 00:13:23,500
I'm only just finding out about

410
00:13:23,500 --> 00:13:24,040
this now.

411
00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,750
So you're technically not even

412
00:13:25,750 --> 00:13:26,440
insured.

413
00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:28,520
Okay.

414
00:13:30,220 --> 00:13:31,880
Well, look, let's just forget...

415
00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,070
Let's just forget about even

416
00:13:33,070 --> 00:13:34,080
hearing about that.

417
00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:35,700
Let's just forget about even

418
00:13:35,700 --> 00:13:37,060
hearing about that.

419
00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,210
It can open, and it can

420
00:13:38,210 --> 00:13:39,450
actually do something that

421
00:13:39,450 --> 00:13:40,440
humans can't do.

422
00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,190
It can twist its wrist around

423
00:13:42,190 --> 00:13:43,840
that particular joint.

424
00:13:44,540 --> 00:13:46,410
Now, Gary, this is a small

425
00:13:46,410 --> 00:13:47,940
example of a robot.

426
00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,060
It's certainly not a computer.

427
00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:51,160
How do computers and robotics

428
00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:51,960
relate?

429
00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:53,540
It's a perfect...

430
00:13:54,220 --> 00:13:57,040
Look at Stu in his prime.

431
00:13:57,180 --> 00:13:58,680
This is an early day, early

432
00:13:58,680 --> 00:13:59,840
footage of Stu.

433
00:13:59,980 --> 00:14:01,500
This is when he was just

434
00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:03,470
beginning to cut the mustard

435
00:14:03,470 --> 00:14:05,540
back in the early 80s.

436
00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:07,700
Still in the early 80s here.

437
00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,500
And he is an absolute monster

438
00:14:11,500 --> 00:14:13,200
in weighting.

439
00:14:13,420 --> 00:14:14,020
In weight.

440
00:14:14,180 --> 00:14:16,920
He still hasn't transformed

441
00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,100
into his final format.

442
00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,140
They follow this category of

443
00:14:21,140 --> 00:14:22,640
robots, and they go from the

444
00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,010
simple show robots all the way

445
00:14:24,010 --> 00:14:25,990
up to sophisticated assembly

446
00:14:25,990 --> 00:14:27,000
line type of robot.

447
00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:28,980
And in a show robot, for

448
00:14:28,980 --> 00:14:30,800
example, there's a...

449
00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:31,600
A show robot.

450
00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:32,720
...a human operator that

451
00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:33,790
somehow is communicating with

452
00:14:33,790 --> 00:14:34,770
this device, making it roll

453
00:14:34,770 --> 00:14:35,840
around, giving brochures and

454
00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:36,760
things of that sort.

455
00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:38,100
But as we add more intelligence

456
00:14:38,100 --> 00:14:39,490
on board, then that's where the

457
00:14:39,490 --> 00:14:40,820
computer comes into play.

458
00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,310
The computer then controls all

459
00:14:42,310 --> 00:14:43,820
the devices, makes...

460
00:14:43,820 --> 00:14:44,880
Thank you very much, Therr.

461
00:14:44,980 --> 00:14:46,360
Single shot of oat milk.

462
00:14:46,500 --> 00:14:47,550
...on-board decisions based on

463
00:14:47,550 --> 00:14:48,400
its own intelligence.

464
00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:50,620
Well, there's been a science

465
00:14:50,620 --> 00:14:52,180
fiction fascination with robots

466
00:14:52,180 --> 00:14:53,630
throughout this century, but

467
00:14:53,630 --> 00:14:54,870
the fictional robots bear

468
00:14:54,870 --> 00:14:56,330
little resemblance to today's

469
00:14:56,330 --> 00:14:57,200
real robots.

470
00:14:57,700 --> 00:14:58,740
Thank you very much, horses.

471
00:14:58,900 --> 00:14:59,300
The image...

472
00:14:59,300 --> 00:14:59,960
Real robots.

473
00:14:59,980 --> 00:15:01,350
...has taken many different

474
00:15:01,350 --> 00:15:02,380
forms since the clockwork

475
00:15:02,380 --> 00:15:03,750
musicians and dolls of the 18th

476
00:15:03,750 --> 00:15:04,580
century...

477
00:15:04,580 --> 00:15:05,800
And look at that, it's a clockwork

478
00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:06,420
horse rider.

479
00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,800
...anical age of the early 20th

480
00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,030
century, the robot became a

481
00:15:10,030 --> 00:15:11,360
frightening symbol of the

482
00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:12,660
future, threatening to

483
00:15:12,660 --> 00:15:14,020
transform the world into an

484
00:15:14,020 --> 00:15:15,760
over-mechanized, de-humanized

485
00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:16,520
society.

486
00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:18,240
In heavy industries...

487
00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:19,140
His face, look!

488
00:15:19,140 --> 00:15:21,450
...was becoming an accessory to

489
00:15:21,450 --> 00:15:23,410
the machine, repeating the same

490
00:15:23,410 --> 00:15:25,160
task hundreds or thousands of

491
00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,260
times in precisely the same way.

492
00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:28,660
To those not benefiting

493
00:15:28,660 --> 00:15:30,750
directly from the new methods,

494
00:15:30,750 --> 00:15:32,370
mechanization of work and life

495
00:15:32,370 --> 00:15:34,050
called up bleak images of the

496
00:15:34,050 --> 00:15:34,780
future.

497
00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,080
Fritz Lang's metropolis...

498
00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,390
Some deep robotic lore here,

499
00:15:39,390 --> 00:15:41,670
but I was kind of captivated by

500
00:15:41,670 --> 00:15:43,400
this fella's face.

501
00:15:44,140 --> 00:15:45,260
I don't know whether or not

502
00:15:45,260 --> 00:15:47,120
that was a robot per se.

503
00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:48,250
Is that the guy that was on the

504
00:15:48,250 --> 00:15:49,240
horse that we've just seen a

505
00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:49,860
second ago?

506
00:15:49,940 --> 00:15:51,330
Is that a man from medieval

507
00:15:51,330 --> 00:15:51,920
times?

508
00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:52,660
How could it be?

509
00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:53,520
How could it be?

510
00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,280
What would the invention of

511
00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,860
photographs and photography...

512
00:15:59,860 --> 00:16:02,480
So many years in the future?

513
00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:03,480
...in the future?

514
00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:04,200
...this would have been

515
00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:04,480
impossible.

516
00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:05,480
Unless they've replicated it.

517
00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,480
...in heavy...

518
00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,680
It says Rur on his jersey.

519
00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:10,480
...the world into...

520
00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,260
...R-U-R.

521
00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,300
...an over-mechanized, de-humanized

522
00:16:16,300 --> 00:16:17,380
society.

523
00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,420
In heavy industry, the worker

524
00:16:19,420 --> 00:16:20,580
was becoming...

525
00:16:20,580 --> 00:16:23,200
...with a man from the...

526
00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,110
...he really wouldn't last that

527
00:16:25,110 --> 00:16:25,460
long.

528
00:16:25,820 --> 00:16:27,830
Or indeed, if he was here, he'd

529
00:16:27,830 --> 00:16:29,360
have to go inside when it

530
00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:30,560
started to rain.

531
00:16:31,340 --> 00:16:32,200
Or he would have...

532
00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,190
...after every battle, he would

533
00:16:34,190 --> 00:16:35,130
have had to have been dried

534
00:16:35,130 --> 00:16:36,440
down thoroughly...

535
00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,420
...by a fucking dryer inside.

536
00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:41,440
They would have had a...

537
00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,310
...a peasant dryer maybe who

538
00:16:43,310 --> 00:16:44,880
would have done that work.

539
00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:46,170
And then they would have been

540
00:16:46,170 --> 00:16:46,900
given tenancy.

541
00:16:47,020 --> 00:16:47,890
They would have been given a

542
00:16:47,890 --> 00:16:48,920
land like a surf...

543
00:16:49,540 --> 00:16:50,520
...given a land.

544
00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,110
A bit of a hut or a place to

545
00:16:54,110 --> 00:16:55,200
dwell.

546
00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:56,530
...a frightening symbol of the

547
00:16:56,530 --> 00:16:56,940
future.

548
00:16:57,380 --> 00:16:58,590
Threatening to transform the

549
00:16:58,590 --> 00:17:00,430
world into an over-mechanized,

550
00:17:00,430 --> 00:17:02,000
de-humanized society.

551
00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,220
Quasi-quartic.

552
00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:04,720
In heavy industries, the worker

553
00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:05,990
was becoming an accessory to

554
00:17:05,990 --> 00:17:06,780
the machine.

555
00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:08,220
Repeating the same task

556
00:17:08,220 --> 00:17:10,090
hundreds or thousands of times

557
00:17:10,090 --> 00:17:11,900
in precisely the same way.

558
00:17:12,460 --> 00:17:13,550
To those not benefiting

559
00:17:13,550 --> 00:17:15,080
directly from the new methods,

560
00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,540
mechanization of work and life...

561
00:17:17,540 --> 00:17:18,880
...called up bleak images of

562
00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:19,440
the future.

563
00:17:20,340 --> 00:17:20,910
Fritz Lang's metropolis

564
00:17:20,910 --> 00:17:23,040
depicted the year 2000.

565
00:17:23,460 --> 00:17:24,290
A world divided between

566
00:17:24,290 --> 00:17:25,500
industrial...

567
00:17:25,500 --> 00:17:26,780
Chocolate to tearfish, thank

568
00:17:26,780 --> 00:17:27,420
you very much.

569
00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,160
And Gavin Brown and Nall.

570
00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:30,590
And Gridrain, thank you very

571
00:17:30,590 --> 00:17:31,020
much.

572
00:17:31,020 --> 00:17:32,330
If you get a sticker put up on

573
00:17:32,330 --> 00:17:33,450
the car saying it's too

574
00:17:33,450 --> 00:17:35,020
dangerous to drive...

575
00:17:35,900 --> 00:17:36,690
...you can be arrested if

576
00:17:36,690 --> 00:17:38,020
caught driving it and your

577
00:17:38,020 --> 00:17:39,220
insurance is void.

578
00:17:39,780 --> 00:17:40,540
But it's nothing.

579
00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,760
It's usually just a fucking...

580
00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:43,960
I'll come back for it.

581
00:17:44,540 --> 00:17:45,720
You know, it's usually a tweak.

582
00:17:46,380 --> 00:17:48,860
I've never had that level of...

583
00:17:48,860 --> 00:17:50,360
Or at least the uncle has never

584
00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:51,760
had that level of...

585
00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,760
...of...

586
00:17:54,340 --> 00:17:56,340
...dangerousness in the car

587
00:17:56,340 --> 00:17:57,960
stakes, you know?

588
00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,640
...real barons and downtrodden

589
00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:01,520
workers.

590
00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,430
Slaves to an underground

591
00:18:03,430 --> 00:18:05,250
machine city operating day and

592
00:18:05,250 --> 00:18:05,840
night.

593
00:18:06,420 --> 00:18:07,410
The drive for efficiency leads

594
00:18:07,410 --> 00:18:08,980
the city's master to consult an

595
00:18:08,980 --> 00:18:10,100
inventor...

596
00:18:10,100 --> 00:18:11,870
...who has devised the ultimate

597
00:18:11,870 --> 00:18:12,280
tool.

598
00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,340
A mechanical replacement for

599
00:18:14,340 --> 00:18:16,000
the imperfect human being.

600
00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,220
This remarkable film...

601
00:18:18,220 --> 00:18:18,620
Deep shit here.

602
00:18:18,620 --> 00:18:22,060
This silent movie here.

603
00:18:22,060 --> 00:18:24,230
I've created a machine in the

604
00:18:24,230 --> 00:18:26,250
image of man that never tires

605
00:18:26,250 --> 00:18:27,940
or makes a mistake.

606
00:18:27,940 --> 00:18:29,030
...for the imperfect human

607
00:18:29,030 --> 00:18:29,360
being.

608
00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:30,660
This remarkable...

609
00:18:31,660 --> 00:18:32,690
And he looks a bit Christopher

610
00:18:32,690 --> 00:18:33,860
Lloyd-esque.

611
00:18:34,360 --> 00:18:36,660
I don't know what this movie is.

612
00:18:36,660 --> 00:18:39,270
Maybe it's about that Isaac Asimov

613
00:18:39,270 --> 00:18:40,020
fella.

614
00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,460
Now we have no further use for

615
00:18:41,460 --> 00:18:42,380
living workers.

616
00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,260
Having the same fucking chats

617
00:18:44,260 --> 00:18:46,120
about it today, nowadays.

618
00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,040
But it anticipated a fictional

619
00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,920
idea of robots that persisted

620
00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,460
for decades after it.

621
00:18:51,740 --> 00:18:53,180
A human-made, human-like

622
00:18:53,180 --> 00:18:55,300
mechanism that behaves like its

623
00:18:55,300 --> 00:18:56,040
creator.

624
00:18:56,900 --> 00:18:57,570
More often than not, the

625
00:18:57,570 --> 00:18:59,390
machine tended to destroy its

626
00:18:59,390 --> 00:19:00,640
creator as well.

627
00:19:01,020 --> 00:19:01,750
Prompting writer Isaac Asimov

628
00:19:01,750 --> 00:19:02,840
in 1847...

629
00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:03,140
There we go.

630
00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,680
Asimov mentioned.

631
00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:08,440
Did someone just drop a bomb on

632
00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:09,720
this shit?

633
00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,320
Because that stuff was a blast.

634
00:19:13,100 --> 00:19:14,020
And there he is.

635
00:19:14,180 --> 00:19:14,940
There he is.

636
00:19:15,460 --> 00:19:17,600
With his three laws of robotics.

637
00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,170
I heard there were five or six

638
00:19:19,170 --> 00:19:19,880
or seven.

639
00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,520
A robot may not injure a human

640
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,680
being.

641
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,890
Or, through inaction, allow a

642
00:19:26,890 --> 00:19:29,040
human being to come to harm.

643
00:19:29,580 --> 00:19:30,200
Number two.

644
00:19:30,740 --> 00:19:32,960
A robot must obey the orders

645
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,000
given to it by human beings.

646
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,570
Like Resident Evil memorandum

647
00:19:37,570 --> 00:19:38,220
reading.

648
00:19:39,540 --> 00:19:41,100
A robot must obey the orders

649
00:19:41,100 --> 00:19:42,880
given to it by human beings.

650
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,580
Except where such orders would

651
00:19:44,580 --> 00:19:46,340
conflict with the first law.

652
00:19:49,220 --> 00:19:50,380
Number three.

653
00:19:51,460 --> 00:19:52,820
A robot must protect its own

654
00:19:52,820 --> 00:19:54,140
existence.

655
00:19:54,140 --> 00:19:56,200
As long as such protection does

656
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,950
not conflict with the first or

657
00:19:57,950 --> 00:19:58,880
second law.

658
00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,760
So a robot has the legal right

659
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,820
to defend itself.

660
00:20:03,820 --> 00:20:08,380
I believe all robots have the

661
00:20:08,380 --> 00:20:11,830
legal right to defend

662
00:20:11,830 --> 00:20:14,340
themselves.

663
00:20:14,340 --> 00:20:17,540
And absolutely hammer loads of

664
00:20:17,540 --> 00:20:18,440
people.

665
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,460
I mean, I still actually don't

666
00:20:22,460 --> 00:20:23,620
believe that.

667
00:20:23,620 --> 00:20:24,700
I don't believe a robot should

668
00:20:24,700 --> 00:20:25,830
be allowed to fucking hammer

669
00:20:25,830 --> 00:20:26,320
anyone.

670
00:20:26,980 --> 00:20:28,660
But, if it's under attack and

671
00:20:28,660 --> 00:20:30,240
it belongs to you.

672
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:31,360
And it's your property.

673
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:32,390
And someone's trying to kick

674
00:20:32,390 --> 00:20:33,500
the fuck out of your robot.

675
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,200
Then, yeah, I'd be all for that

676
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,420
robot then.

677
00:20:37,700 --> 00:20:39,820
Leveling accusations of punch,

678
00:20:39,820 --> 00:20:41,620
kick and crush at the

679
00:20:41,620 --> 00:20:42,460
opposition.

680
00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:45,970
And it only reminds me actually

681
00:20:45,970 --> 00:20:48,860
of seeing a video there a few

682
00:20:48,860 --> 00:20:50,930
days ago of more, even more

683
00:20:50,930 --> 00:20:52,460
Chinese robots.

684
00:20:54,300 --> 00:20:56,470
Doing the gods honest out in

685
00:20:56,470 --> 00:20:57,900
China.

686
00:20:57,900 --> 00:21:00,270
I think it might have been

687
00:21:00,270 --> 00:21:02,240
either Shanghai.

688
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,140
Or fucking Hangzhou.

689
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,940
Or one of those tech cities.

690
00:21:08,540 --> 00:21:10,210
That is doing the gods honest

691
00:21:10,210 --> 00:21:11,460
in robotics.

692
00:21:11,820 --> 00:21:13,000
Let's have a little look here.

693
00:21:14,020 --> 00:21:14,580
Robots.

694
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:15,920
China.

695
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:16,920
Fight.

696
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,980
And, yeah, it's here.

697
00:21:21,340 --> 00:21:22,840
We've got it right here.

698
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,650
Oh, and there was another robot

699
00:21:24,650 --> 00:21:25,580
kicking off.

700
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,810
Again, we saw that at the

701
00:21:28,810 --> 00:21:30,620
Chinese parade.

702
00:21:30,900 --> 00:21:31,830
They had a parade for the

703
00:21:31,830 --> 00:21:33,220
Chinese Lunar New Year.

704
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:34,900
The Year of the Snake, by the

705
00:21:34,900 --> 00:21:35,380
way.

706
00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:36,240
Ladies and gentlemen.

707
00:21:36,420 --> 00:21:37,460
The Year of the Snake.

708
00:21:40,820 --> 00:21:40,740
They were kicking off wearing

709
00:21:40,740 --> 00:21:42,850
lovely little jackets, these

710
00:21:42,850 --> 00:21:43,860
robots.

711
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,340
One of them tried to fucking

712
00:21:45,340 --> 00:21:46,460
headbutt a woman.

713
00:21:47,580 --> 00:21:48,640
And now, the other day, one of

714
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,540
these robots inside a factory

715
00:21:50,540 --> 00:21:52,220
started to kick off on its

716
00:21:52,220 --> 00:21:53,420
owner as well.

717
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,040
And they shat themselves.

718
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,300
I don't know if you saw this.

719
00:21:57,020 --> 00:22:00,290
But it's, this is another, uh,

720
00:22:00,290 --> 00:22:03,260
bit of an eyebrow raising

721
00:22:03,260 --> 00:22:04,000
affair.

722
00:22:04,220 --> 00:22:05,380
An alarming video currently

723
00:22:05,380 --> 00:22:06,720
doing the rounds on social

724
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,190
media appears to depict one of

725
00:22:08,190 --> 00:22:09,460
humanity's worst nightmares

726
00:22:09,460 --> 00:22:10,920
seemingly coming true.

727
00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:12,600
This guy gets, they're

728
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:13,980
programming it there.

729
00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:15,460
This fella here, he's probably

730
00:22:15,460 --> 00:22:16,890
just like looking to see what's

731
00:22:16,890 --> 00:22:17,460
going on.

732
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,160
They have him on a winch.

733
00:22:19,660 --> 00:22:20,790
Now, they probably thought that

734
00:22:20,790 --> 00:22:22,340
they was, they probably thought

735
00:22:22,340 --> 00:22:23,760
they were safe because the, the

736
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:24,860
buck was on a winch.

737
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,560
But wait until you see him.

738
00:22:26,980 --> 00:22:28,700
He goes, fucking ape shit.

739
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,150
The short clip features a humanoid

740
00:22:31,150 --> 00:22:32,400
robot malfunctioning.

741
00:22:32,660 --> 00:22:33,440
Look at this.

742
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:33,520
Look at this.

743
00:22:33,980 --> 00:22:34,910
And getting almost too close

744
00:22:34,910 --> 00:22:36,340
for comfort to two people.

745
00:22:36,340 --> 00:22:37,220
Crazy town.

746
00:22:37,980 --> 00:22:39,160
Crazy little guys.

747
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,160
And there, look.

748
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:41,880
And it looks nice, look.

749
00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:43,400
This one looks nice.

750
00:22:43,820 --> 00:22:44,320
Oh yeah.

751
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:45,120
This is the other thing.

752
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,930
It was the same make and model

753
00:22:47,930 --> 00:22:50,740
as the fucking, as the robot

754
00:22:50,740 --> 00:22:53,650
that tried to headbutt a woman

755
00:22:53,650 --> 00:22:56,470
in the Chinese Lunar New Year

756
00:22:56,470 --> 00:22:57,720
parade.

757
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,430
The Chinese Year of the Snake,

758
00:22:59,430 --> 00:23:00,820
ladies and gentlemen.

759
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:02,700
Did you know this?

760
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,720
Thank you very much, Darren

761
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,180
Mack, for your tip.

762
00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:09,180
And poddy, Bob.

763
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,220
Very, very kind of you.

764
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,280
Darren Mack, how's the form?

765
00:23:12,740 --> 00:23:13,620
Hope you're keeping well.

766
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:14,900
Keeping very well.

767
00:23:14,980 --> 00:23:15,960
Thank you very much.

768
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,080
Very, very kind of you, Darren.

769
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,680
And I hope you're doing well.

770
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,460
And Gavin Brown, never a frown

771
00:23:22,460 --> 00:23:24,340
when Gavin Brown.

772
00:23:26,340 --> 00:23:28,160
Same make, look.

773
00:23:29,300 --> 00:23:31,620
Absolute craziness.

774
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,940
These guys are, why are they

775
00:23:33,940 --> 00:23:35,240
making them?

776
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,440
Why are they making them with

777
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:37,600
this ability, you know?

778
00:23:37,980 --> 00:23:39,580
The ability to absolutely kill,

779
00:23:39,580 --> 00:23:40,900
crush and destroy.

780
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:42,640
And then at the same time, it's,

781
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:43,990
oh yeah, we'll put him in a

782
00:23:43,990 --> 00:23:45,370
nice furry little fucking

783
00:23:45,370 --> 00:23:46,560
Chinese jacket.

784
00:23:46,740 --> 00:23:47,940
He can spin some plates.

785
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,180
We'll have him there.

786
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:50,690
And the girls can dance around

787
00:23:50,690 --> 00:23:51,280
as well.

788
00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:52,320
They can do a jig.

789
00:23:52,500 --> 00:23:53,020
Look at that.

790
00:23:53,060 --> 00:23:54,760
It's all nice and fun times.

791
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,500
But there's a fucking dark side

792
00:23:57,500 --> 00:23:58,160
to it.

793
00:23:58,260 --> 00:23:59,620
A very dark side to it.

794
00:23:59,620 --> 00:24:00,200
Look at that.

795
00:24:00,540 --> 00:24:00,980
Unitree.

796
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,260
Imagine him coming after you.

797
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,460
I mean, he doesn't have any remorse.

798
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,940
He doesn't have any feelings.

799
00:24:08,660 --> 00:24:08,860
You know?

800
00:24:08,940 --> 00:24:10,380
And if you kick him, he's got a,

801
00:24:10,380 --> 00:24:11,780
he's got decent enough.

802
00:24:11,860 --> 00:24:13,180
Now those kicks, I think those

803
00:24:13,180 --> 00:24:14,280
kicks were rubbish.

804
00:24:14,580 --> 00:24:16,170
Personally, I think I could

805
00:24:16,170 --> 00:24:18,420
level harder accusations of

806
00:24:18,420 --> 00:24:20,500
kickery at a robot's thigh.

807
00:24:21,060 --> 00:24:23,440
That's just my personal opinion.

808
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,230
But, uh, they've even built

809
00:24:25,230 --> 00:24:26,970
them with like heavy fucking

810
00:24:26,970 --> 00:24:28,800
arms and these ball fists.

811
00:24:29,020 --> 00:24:30,380
Look, those things would

812
00:24:30,380 --> 00:24:31,500
fucking creel.

813
00:24:31,780 --> 00:24:33,840
They would absolutely mill and

814
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,070
creel and mill until you were

815
00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:38,020
nothing, till you were pulp.

816
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,160
Proper fucking body dynamic

817
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,240
coordination.

818
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,400
They've got better coordination

819
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,450
than some humans, like, you

820
00:24:44,450 --> 00:24:44,820
know?

821
00:24:45,780 --> 00:24:48,120
But the, uh, the situation is

822
00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:51,950
that during a programming mishap,

823
00:24:51,950 --> 00:24:55,060
I don't know, one of them

824
00:24:55,060 --> 00:24:57,740
started to fucking flip.

825
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,540
Brown star bandit.

826
00:25:00,660 --> 00:25:01,720
Thank you very much there for

827
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:02,140
the tip.

828
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:03,540
And this is a slowed down

829
00:25:03,540 --> 00:25:05,100
version of it, really.

830
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,340
But, uh, look at this.

831
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:07,550
Look at the sheer terror on

832
00:25:07,550 --> 00:25:08,140
your man.

833
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:09,560
There.

834
00:25:10,380 --> 00:25:11,880
One moment programming.

835
00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:12,760
Next moment.

836
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,100
Please, please save me.

837
00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:18,540
And it's a funny old situation,

838
00:25:18,540 --> 00:25:19,120
isn't it?

839
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,190
Because I used to think that,

840
00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:23,490
oh yeah, robots would be in a

841
00:25:23,490 --> 00:25:26,180
much more, I don't know, sanitized,

842
00:25:26,180 --> 00:25:28,090
kind of laboratory-esque, you

843
00:25:28,090 --> 00:25:30,680
know, umbrella corporation.

844
00:25:31,260 --> 00:25:33,220
Men in white suits and coats.

845
00:25:33,940 --> 00:25:34,920
Kind of very sterile

846
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,340
environment.

847
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:37,390
But it just looks like some

848
00:25:37,390 --> 00:25:37,980
warehouse.

849
00:25:37,980 --> 00:25:38,780
Look at that.

850
00:25:39,260 --> 00:25:40,380
And you could put some music to

851
00:25:40,380 --> 00:25:41,140
that even.

852
00:25:41,220 --> 00:25:42,420
Would be quite amusing.

853
00:25:42,580 --> 00:25:44,260
I'm not sure what, maybe We Are

854
00:25:44,260 --> 00:25:45,680
the Robots by Kraftwerk or

855
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:46,560
something.

856
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,600
Or, uh, Let's Dance.

857
00:25:48,700 --> 00:25:50,320
Is there just a song called Let's

858
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:50,640
Dance?

859
00:25:50,740 --> 00:25:51,870
I think that would suffice, you

860
00:25:51,870 --> 00:25:52,220
know?

861
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,220
Uh, Let's Dance.

862
00:25:54,460 --> 00:25:56,220
I suppose David, David Bowie.

863
00:25:56,860 --> 00:25:58,900
Or, uh, Boogie Woogie.

864
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,040
Just, uh, just that lady

865
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,300
singing Boogie Woogie.

866
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:03,900
Uh, Safety Dance.

867
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:05,220
Daft Punk.

868
00:26:06,740 --> 00:26:07,570
I mean, this isn't a lot of

869
00:26:07,570 --> 00:26:09,380
effort to go for.

870
00:26:10,020 --> 00:26:11,200
Uh, and, and you already know

871
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,560
what I'm gonna play.

872
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:13,940
So, I mean, will it even be

873
00:26:13,940 --> 00:26:15,720
funny when it actually happens?

874
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,590
Um, uh, One More Time, maybe,

875
00:26:19,590 --> 00:26:21,460
by Daft Punk.

876
00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:23,500
One more time.

877
00:26:24,900 --> 00:26:25,340
Daft.

878
00:26:27,980 --> 00:26:28,880
Robot Rock.

879
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,040
People are saying, yeah, but, I

880
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,100
mean, uh, one that everybody

881
00:26:32,100 --> 00:26:32,840
knows.

882
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:33,760
Milk Snake.

883
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:34,880
Thank you very much there.

884
00:26:35,220 --> 00:26:36,920
Roberto Baggio's after you.

885
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,400
Everybody knows One More Time.

886
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,760
You know, it's, we're gonna

887
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:41,740
have to go with, uh,

888
00:26:41,740 --> 00:26:45,860
the vote of popular decree here.

889
00:26:47,860 --> 00:26:48,760
Ah, brilliant.

890
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:52,820
This could be it, man.

891
00:26:52,820 --> 00:27:17,280
One more time.

892
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:17,340
One more time.

893
00:27:17,340 --> 00:27:18,340
I love you.

894
00:27:18,340 --> 00:27:33,100
One more time.

895
00:27:33,100 --> 00:28:03,080
I love you.

896
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:33,060
I love you.

897
00:28:33,060 --> 00:29:03,040
I love you.

898
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:33,020
I love you.

899
00:29:33,020 --> 00:30:03,000
I love you.

900
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:32,980
I love you.

901
00:30:32,980 --> 00:31:02,960
I love you.

902
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:32,940
I love you.

903
00:31:32,940 --> 00:32:02,920
I love you.

904
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,820
A robot may not injure a human

905
00:32:05,820 --> 00:32:06,780
being.

906
00:32:06,860 --> 00:32:07,460
You know that.

907
00:32:08,620 --> 00:32:09,600
We all know that.

908
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,100
Do they know that in China?

909
00:32:12,220 --> 00:32:13,580
Maybe they don't know that.

910
00:32:13,660 --> 00:32:14,660
It hasn't been programmed.

911
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,900
Do they have these laws in

912
00:32:17,900 --> 00:32:18,400
China?

913
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,370
Are these internationally

914
00:32:20,370 --> 00:32:22,720
recognized laws of robotics?

915
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,260
I mean, what country was this

916
00:32:25,260 --> 00:32:26,000
drafted in?

917
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,140
...to devise the first three

918
00:32:28,140 --> 00:32:29,400
laws of robotics.

919
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,160
He's letting us read it.

920
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,440
He's giving us time.

921
00:32:39,460 --> 00:32:40,420
He's giving us time in the

922
00:32:40,420 --> 00:32:41,870
episode to read the laws of

923
00:32:41,870 --> 00:32:42,700
robotics.

924
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:44,840
There's a bit of a lull there.

925
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:45,890
These prescriptions assume

926
00:32:45,890 --> 00:32:46,750
either a large degree of

927
00:32:46,750 --> 00:32:47,340
intelligence

928
00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:49,130
or, interpreted another way,

929
00:32:49,130 --> 00:32:50,500
programmed behavior,

930
00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:52,660
one of the principal criteria

931
00:32:52,660 --> 00:32:54,460
for modern robotic systems.

932
00:32:55,180 --> 00:32:56,350
While not usually designed with

933
00:32:56,350 --> 00:32:57,940
human characteristics,

934
00:32:57,940 --> 00:32:59,600
post-war robots were, from

935
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,440
early on, capable of programmed

936
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,140
motion.

937
00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:04,230
Servo mechanisms, or feedback

938
00:33:04,230 --> 00:33:06,010
control robots, began to appear

939
00:33:06,010 --> 00:33:07,140
in the late 19...

940
00:33:07,140 --> 00:33:09,820
Kill. Crush. Destroy.

941
00:33:09,820 --> 00:33:11,840
From 1960 on, robots became

942
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,390
useful adjuncts to a number of

943
00:33:13,390 --> 00:33:14,260
industries,

944
00:33:14,260 --> 00:33:15,880
particularly in jobs that were

945
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,540
uncomfortable or hazardous to

946
00:33:17,540 --> 00:33:18,060
humans,

947
00:33:18,060 --> 00:33:19,740
like welding and painting.

948
00:33:20,540 --> 00:33:21,720
Repetitive functions as

949
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,010
performed by the machine-like

950
00:33:23,010 --> 00:33:24,020
humans in Metropolis

951
00:33:24,020 --> 00:33:25,470
were being taken over by robots

952
00:33:25,470 --> 00:33:26,460
with more human-like

953
00:33:26,460 --> 00:33:27,340
capabilities,

954
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,420
including sight, touch, and

955
00:33:29,420 --> 00:33:30,800
error detection.

956
00:33:31,660 --> 00:33:31,990
In some of the latest

957
00:33:31,990 --> 00:33:33,870
applications, CAD CAM systems

958
00:33:33,870 --> 00:33:35,360
work directly...

959
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:36,900
CAD CAM systems.

960
00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:38,640
...to transfer the design of a

961
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,250
part from the video screen to

962
00:33:40,250 --> 00:33:41,460
the finished product.

963
00:33:41,460 --> 00:33:54,740
Joining us now is Dr. David Mitzan,

964
00:33:54,740 --> 00:33:55,940
director of the robotics

965
00:33:55,940 --> 00:33:57,580
department at SRI International.

966
00:33:57,740 --> 00:33:58,700
The man Mitzan.

967
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,320
He's an executive with Autobotics

968
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,800
here in the Silicon Valley.

969
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:02,160
Gary?

970
00:34:03,260 --> 00:34:04,400
David, I guess everybody...

971
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,660
Mitzan's after you.

972
00:34:05,660 --> 00:34:06,990
But he has the idea that a

973
00:34:06,990 --> 00:34:08,730
robot should go around and wash

974
00:34:08,730 --> 00:34:10,200
your dishes and clean your

975
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,520
house and so forth.

976
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,400
But I have a feeling there's a

977
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,560
lot more to robotics than that.

978
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:14,320
Can you give us some idea of

979
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,420
what's going on in the industry?

980
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:17,940
Gary's some specimen, isn't he?

981
00:34:17,980 --> 00:34:20,160
He's like the opposite of Stu.

982
00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:20,990
I know I've said it a million

983
00:34:20,990 --> 00:34:21,380
times.

984
00:34:21,540 --> 00:34:22,640
He's not a presenter.

985
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,210
He's just in it for the love of

986
00:34:24,210 --> 00:34:24,920
the game.

987
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:26,790
Kind of nervous in a way, even

988
00:34:26,790 --> 00:34:29,020
though he's the biggest...

989
00:34:29,020 --> 00:34:30,630
He's the toast in town at this

990
00:34:30,630 --> 00:34:31,060
time.

991
00:34:31,380 --> 00:34:32,740
1983, Silicon Valley.

992
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,400
He's the man.

993
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,170
David, who's an executive with

994
00:34:37,170 --> 00:34:39,710
Autobotics here in the Silicon

995
00:34:39,710 --> 00:34:40,720
Valley.

996
00:34:40,940 --> 00:34:41,120
Gary?

997
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:42,960
David, I guess everybody has

998
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,780
the idea that a robot should go

999
00:34:44,780 --> 00:34:46,760
around and wash your dishes and

1000
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,800
clean your house and so forth.

1001
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,400
I guess everybody has the idea

1002
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,020
of robots should go around and

1003
00:34:54,020 --> 00:34:55,740
wash the dishes.

1004
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,350
But you have another idea,

1005
00:34:57,350 --> 00:34:57,980
right?

1006
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,750
Thank you very much there,

1007
00:34:59,750 --> 00:35:01,930
Randy, for the tip and throwing

1008
00:35:01,930 --> 00:35:03,840
shapes and the other Jeff.

1009
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:04,840
And Joey the lips.

1010
00:35:05,300 --> 00:35:06,440
Thank you very much as well.

1011
00:35:07,420 --> 00:35:09,040
The other Jeff says, Robo McGregor

1012
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,970
is after you in reference to

1013
00:35:10,970 --> 00:35:12,710
the robot there that was

1014
00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:13,920
kicking off.

1015
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:14,990
I have a feeling there's a lot

1016
00:35:14,990 --> 00:35:16,180
more to robotics than that.

1017
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:16,940
Can you give us some idea of

1018
00:35:16,940 --> 00:35:18,020
what's going on in the industry?

1019
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,000
Well, industry has been using

1020
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,720
robotics for 15 years already.

1021
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:25,720
These are robots.

1022
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:25,720
These are robots.

1023
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:25,720
These are robots.

1024
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:25,720
These are robots.

1025
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:26,720
These are robots.

1026
00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:27,720
These are robots.

1027
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:28,720
These are robots.

1028
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:30,490
These are robots that are

1029
00:35:30,490 --> 00:35:32,500
designed to do dirty jobs in

1030
00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:33,440
industry.

1031
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:42,240
And they're doing them.

1032
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:44,640
What do you mean by a dirty job?

1033
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,240
Well, I'm just a...

1034
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:47,240
A dirty job.

1035
00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:48,120
A dirty job.

1036
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:48,920
These are jobs.

1037
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,250
Jobs that are hard, strenuous,

1038
00:35:53,250 --> 00:35:58,280
dangerous, harmful, and lethal.

1039
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,060
What is an example of something

1040
00:36:00,060 --> 00:36:01,700
like a dirty job that would be

1041
00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:02,680
a lethal job?

1042
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,150
And then he just says, after

1043
00:36:05,150 --> 00:36:07,750
asking for an example, well,

1044
00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:09,400
cleaning shit.

1045
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,840
All right.

1046
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,300
Maybe we'll come over to our

1047
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:16,080
other guest now.

1048
00:36:16,300 --> 00:36:17,600
You work in the field of

1049
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:18,760
robotics too.

1050
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,550
Well, lethal is not yet in

1051
00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:24,660
operation.

1052
00:36:24,900 --> 00:36:26,300
This would be in the future.

1053
00:36:26,540 --> 00:36:29,690
I mean, by that I mean, jobs in

1054
00:36:29,690 --> 00:36:32,660
hot environment, nuclear.

1055
00:36:32,660 --> 00:36:35,140
Ooh, hot, kinetic, nuclear.

1056
00:36:35,140 --> 00:36:36,260
We know what kind of

1057
00:36:36,260 --> 00:36:38,220
environment they're on about.

1058
00:36:38,220 --> 00:36:39,250
We were just watching one at

1059
00:36:39,250 --> 00:36:40,460
the beginning of the stream.

1060
00:36:40,460 --> 00:36:43,150
A very kinetic and potentially

1061
00:36:43,150 --> 00:36:45,780
nuclearized environment.

1062
00:36:46,340 --> 00:36:47,420
A war zone.

1063
00:36:48,700 --> 00:36:49,500
War bots.

1064
00:36:49,860 --> 00:36:51,380
Power plants and the like.

1065
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:52,900
Squeaky eye.

1066
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,650
Thank you very much, squeaky

1067
00:36:54,650 --> 00:36:55,960
eye, for your tip.

1068
00:36:56,260 --> 00:36:59,700
But examples of undesired jobs

1069
00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:03,140
is handling work pieces in heat

1070
00:37:03,140 --> 00:37:07,200
environment, hot environment.

1071
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,410
What about in assembly language

1072
00:37:08,410 --> 00:37:08,900
control?

1073
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,800
Not control, but doing assembly

1074
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:11,680
processes.

1075
00:37:11,900 --> 00:37:12,710
I know the Japanese have been

1076
00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:13,980
very heavily involved in that.

1077
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:14,960
What's going on in just an

1078
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,180
industrial use of robots?

1079
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:16,960
Well, that's the other kind of

1080
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:17,240
deadly.

1081
00:37:17,500 --> 00:37:18,620
Japanese are after you.

1082
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,960
...dull jobs that are so common

1083
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,580
in a lot of our factories,

1084
00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:24,180
which Americans have

1085
00:37:24,180 --> 00:37:26,060
demonstrated a strong dislike

1086
00:37:26,060 --> 00:37:26,500
for.

1087
00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:27,430
And it's the reason why a lot

1088
00:37:27,430 --> 00:37:28,340
of our production is going

1089
00:37:28,340 --> 00:37:28,900
offshore.

1090
00:37:29,460 --> 00:37:30,470
And what's being done now, I

1091
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:32,600
think, in industry, is that we're

1092
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,270
addressing those kinds of

1093
00:37:34,270 --> 00:37:35,840
mundane assembly tasks,

1094
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,220
and taking the dehumanizing

1095
00:37:37,220 --> 00:37:38,310
jobs and giving them to

1096
00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:39,520
machines to free up human

1097
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,110
beings for more creative, more

1098
00:37:41,110 --> 00:37:42,720
challenging kinds of work.

1099
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:44,400
Yeah, but you see, a very

1100
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,670
important point about assembly

1101
00:37:46,670 --> 00:37:48,570
is that here the competition is

1102
00:37:48,570 --> 00:37:49,680
very strong.

1103
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,660
Because to do assembly is...

1104
00:37:53,660 --> 00:37:57,660
Assembly is a very complex task.

1105
00:37:58,100 --> 00:37:59,880
Especially if it's done in unstructured

1106
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:00,700
environments.

1107
00:38:01,220 --> 00:38:03,380
Not when pieces are jipped.

1108
00:38:03,380 --> 00:38:04,220
We might have to...

1109
00:38:04,220 --> 00:38:05,400
If it's done like...

1110
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,780
We might just have to fucking

1111
00:38:06,780 --> 00:38:08,330
move on a little quick with Knits

1112
00:38:08,330 --> 00:38:09,630
in here, because he's not

1113
00:38:09,630 --> 00:38:10,600
giving much juice.

1114
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,900
There doesn't seem neither to

1115
00:38:12,900 --> 00:38:15,080
be any sort of peripherals or

1116
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,300
tangible physical hardware

1117
00:38:17,300 --> 00:38:19,300
components on display,

1118
00:38:19,540 --> 00:38:20,750
which usually is half the

1119
00:38:20,750 --> 00:38:22,030
battle, especially in these

1120
00:38:22,030 --> 00:38:23,650
early Computer Chronicles

1121
00:38:23,650 --> 00:38:23,940
episodes.

1122
00:38:23,940 --> 00:38:25,260
They're very slow-paced.

1123
00:38:25,860 --> 00:38:26,610
It's nice to have a bit of gear

1124
00:38:26,610 --> 00:38:28,220
you can fucking hold, something

1125
00:38:28,220 --> 00:38:29,580
you can see, and you see them

1126
00:38:29,580 --> 00:38:30,560
tapping away.

1127
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:31,340
There's none of that.

1128
00:38:31,460 --> 00:38:32,350
I was thinking it was going to

1129
00:38:32,350 --> 00:38:32,860
be a robot.

1130
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,940
On the other hand...

1131
00:38:34,940 --> 00:38:35,540
On the other hand...

1132
00:38:37,140 --> 00:38:39,220
Swanee, UK, thank you very much.

1133
00:38:40,740 --> 00:38:41,790
Assembly people on assembly

1134
00:38:41,790 --> 00:38:43,540
line, people working on

1135
00:38:43,540 --> 00:38:46,110
assembly line, are paid very

1136
00:38:46,110 --> 00:38:46,880
little.

1137
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:49,110
There are a lot of women that

1138
00:38:49,110 --> 00:38:51,730
are working on assembly line,

1139
00:38:51,730 --> 00:38:53,920
and they are underpaid.

1140
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,020
So, it's a double slam.

1141
00:38:57,340 --> 00:38:58,560
On one hand, it's complex.

1142
00:38:58,900 --> 00:38:59,970
On the other hand, you have to

1143
00:38:59,970 --> 00:39:01,560
compete with very cheap labor.

1144
00:39:02,780 --> 00:39:03,860
And the labor...

1145
00:39:03,860 --> 00:39:04,860
The answer...

1146
00:39:04,860 --> 00:39:06,070
I mean, they could be saying,

1147
00:39:06,070 --> 00:39:07,190
oh, you could just pay them a

1148
00:39:07,190 --> 00:39:08,380
little bit more, maybe.

1149
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,480
But, nah, fuck it.

1150
00:39:10,540 --> 00:39:11,580
We'll just get the robots in.

1151
00:39:11,580 --> 00:39:13,060
It becomes even cheaper when it

1152
00:39:13,060 --> 00:39:14,330
goes to Mexico or it goes to

1153
00:39:14,330 --> 00:39:15,000
East Asia.

1154
00:39:15,820 --> 00:39:16,960
So, that's where the challenge

1155
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:17,380
is.

1156
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,220
On the other hand, with the

1157
00:39:19,220 --> 00:39:21,430
undesired jobs, like heat

1158
00:39:21,430 --> 00:39:23,220
treatment, or die casting, or

1159
00:39:23,220 --> 00:39:24,540
forging...

1160
00:39:25,260 --> 00:39:26,120
Die casting.

1161
00:39:27,740 --> 00:39:29,660
Like, the die has been cast.

1162
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,360
It was my understanding that

1163
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,960
that saying was like...

1164
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,720
You've rolled the dice.

1165
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:36,980
The die is being cast.

1166
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,000
Is that what that means?

1167
00:39:38,340 --> 00:39:39,100
Because the...

1168
00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:41,260
The plural of dice...

1169
00:39:41,260 --> 00:39:42,260
Is the die...

1170
00:39:42,260 --> 00:39:43,450
Or the die is one, and then

1171
00:39:43,450 --> 00:39:44,620
dice are two, right?

1172
00:39:47,340 --> 00:39:48,060
I'm...

1173
00:39:48,060 --> 00:39:50,040
Die cast toys.

1174
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,040
I don't know what the fuck this

1175
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:52,740
is now.

1176
00:39:52,980 --> 00:39:53,940
So there's two...

1177
00:39:53,940 --> 00:39:55,060
So there is...

1178
00:39:55,060 --> 00:39:56,060
Is...

1179
00:39:56,060 --> 00:39:58,150
So there is casting a die, but

1180
00:39:58,150 --> 00:40:00,170
then there is casting a die,

1181
00:40:00,170 --> 00:40:02,360
like dying something of color

1182
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:02,860
as well.

1183
00:40:07,140 --> 00:40:08,680
And the labor becomes even

1184
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,450
cheaper when it goes to Mexico

1185
00:40:10,450 --> 00:40:11,920
or it goes to East Asia.

1186
00:40:12,740 --> 00:40:13,860
So that's where the challenge

1187
00:40:13,860 --> 00:40:14,300
is.

1188
00:40:14,740 --> 00:40:15,970
On the other hand, with the

1189
00:40:15,970 --> 00:40:17,610
undesired jobs, like heat

1190
00:40:17,610 --> 00:40:20,020
treatment, or die casting...

1191
00:40:20,020 --> 00:40:22,700
Okay, it's a metalwork scenario.

1192
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,520
It's metallurgical in its...

1193
00:40:25,300 --> 00:40:26,020
I just thought he was on about

1194
00:40:26,020 --> 00:40:26,960
casting a die.

1195
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,530
So wait a sec, just before we

1196
00:40:28,530 --> 00:40:30,040
go on there, I need to get this

1197
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,640
one crushed and boxed off.

1198
00:40:32,900 --> 00:40:34,260
The die has been cast.

1199
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,580
Saying that in terms of...

1200
00:40:36,580 --> 00:40:37,440
It's too late.

1201
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,280
We aren't able to fucking get

1202
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,640
the bridge built.

1203
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,220
The die has been cast.

1204
00:40:43,740 --> 00:40:44,100
That...

1205
00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:45,080
I am right in saying...

1206
00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:47,200
That that's his fucking saying,

1207
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:47,840
right?

1208
00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:50,080
Like a...

1209
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,080
A croupier...

1210
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,460
In a casino...

1211
00:40:53,460 --> 00:40:54,440
Throw in the fucking die.

1212
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,480
That's the actual dice.

1213
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:02,500
It's very confusing, isn't it?

1214
00:41:02,540 --> 00:41:04,650
There is actually a process, a

1215
00:41:04,650 --> 00:41:06,810
metallurgical process called

1216
00:41:06,810 --> 00:41:07,980
die casting.

1217
00:41:08,220 --> 00:41:09,530
And there's also a saying, an

1218
00:41:09,530 --> 00:41:10,950
idiom or a phrase called the

1219
00:41:10,950 --> 00:41:11,860
cast...

1220
00:41:11,860 --> 00:41:13,100
The cast has been died.

1221
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:16,640
Or forging.

1222
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:18,580
Or arc welding.

1223
00:41:19,340 --> 00:41:22,000
Where the cost for a...

1224
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,580
For the workers is high.

1225
00:41:24,980 --> 00:41:26,300
And it's a very undesired job.

1226
00:41:26,300 --> 00:41:26,720
Yeah.

1227
00:41:26,980 --> 00:41:28,360
And it's very easy to do.

1228
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:28,780
Yeah.

1229
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,920
But you'd still need artisanal

1230
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,910
welders and artisanal forgers

1231
00:41:32,910 --> 00:41:34,870
and whatnot to be able to do

1232
00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:36,300
the real...

1233
00:41:37,300 --> 00:41:39,300
Crazy kind of...

1234
00:41:40,020 --> 00:41:41,000
Detailed jobs.

1235
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,300
You wouldn't be able to get a

1236
00:41:42,300 --> 00:41:43,300
robot to do everything, you

1237
00:41:43,300 --> 00:41:43,700
know?

1238
00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:44,820
That's more cost effective.

1239
00:41:44,820 --> 00:41:46,290
But then you see even in the

1240
00:41:46,290 --> 00:41:47,840
intro to Gran Turismo where

1241
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,460
they're making the car.

1242
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,920
And it's all fucking robots.

1243
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,400
It's all robots nearly from

1244
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,080
beginning to end, you know?

1245
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,580
I guess one of the things, one

1246
00:41:57,580 --> 00:41:59,370
of the differentiating factors

1247
00:41:59,370 --> 00:42:01,080
in robots that are used, say,

1248
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,910
industrial in applications of

1249
00:42:02,910 --> 00:42:04,500
that sort, that you can build a

1250
00:42:04,500 --> 00:42:05,980
very precise robot that, say,

1251
00:42:05,980 --> 00:42:07,050
would weld within a few

1252
00:42:07,050 --> 00:42:08,500
millimeters of where it should

1253
00:42:08,500 --> 00:42:09,020
weld.

1254
00:42:09,020 --> 00:42:10,080
Or you could use, say, vision

1255
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,620
processing to figure out where...

1256
00:42:11,620 --> 00:42:13,800
Gary looks like he's gonna

1257
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:14,160
laugh.

1258
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,380
He's always got a smile, you

1259
00:42:15,380 --> 00:42:16,340
know, at the end of the

1260
00:42:16,340 --> 00:42:17,020
sentence.

1261
00:42:17,260 --> 00:42:18,140
It's like he's having a little

1262
00:42:18,140 --> 00:42:19,220
bit of a laugh, you know?

1263
00:42:19,220 --> 00:42:20,210
Where the object is and to

1264
00:42:20,210 --> 00:42:21,460
manipulate it with very coarse

1265
00:42:21,460 --> 00:42:22,540
mechanical devices.

1266
00:42:22,700 --> 00:42:24,140
Or, as David points out,

1267
00:42:24,140 --> 00:42:25,450
putting the robot into a

1268
00:42:25,450 --> 00:42:27,360
structured environment, such as

1269
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,130
an integrated work cell, where

1270
00:42:29,130 --> 00:42:30,640
the work is presented to the

1271
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,010
robot in such a way that it

1272
00:42:32,010 --> 00:42:33,390
doesn't require extreme

1273
00:42:33,390 --> 00:42:35,170
accuracy or sensory capability

1274
00:42:35,170 --> 00:42:37,000
that some of the anthropomorphic

1275
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,020
machines currently require.

1276
00:42:40,340 --> 00:42:40,920
Henry Ford revolutionized

1277
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,060
American industry by bringing

1278
00:42:43,060 --> 00:42:44,950
the work to the worker on the

1279
00:42:44,950 --> 00:42:46,260
assembly line.

1280
00:42:46,260 --> 00:42:48,030
And we see a very similar trend

1281
00:42:48,030 --> 00:42:49,510
as a necessary part of the

1282
00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:51,000
evolution of robotics in

1283
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,040
American industry, where we

1284
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,710
structure the workplace to suit

1285
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:56,370
the robot and make the robot

1286
00:42:56,370 --> 00:42:58,350
easier to integrate into the

1287
00:42:58,350 --> 00:42:59,400
overall scheme.

1288
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:00,790
And that's really applied

1289
00:43:00,790 --> 00:43:01,480
robotics.

1290
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:02,730
It's a different set of

1291
00:43:02,730 --> 00:43:04,560
problems than the technologies

1292
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,320
necessary to anthropomorphize

1293
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,970
machines, which is the basic

1294
00:43:07,970 --> 00:43:09,750
research being done in robotics

1295
00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:10,280
now.

1296
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:10,860
Well, the...

1297
00:43:10,860 --> 00:43:11,820
And I would like to make a very

1298
00:43:11,820 --> 00:43:12,580
important point.

1299
00:43:12,580 --> 00:43:13,720
I think it's an important point.

1300
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:14,080
Go on.

1301
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:14,580
Go on, Nathan.

1302
00:43:14,580 --> 00:43:16,480
that people worry about

1303
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,180
unemployment and so on. I want

1304
00:43:19,180 --> 00:43:22,020
to make an observation which I

1305
00:43:22,020 --> 00:43:22,340
think

1306
00:43:22,340 --> 00:43:24,300
is important. The number of

1307
00:43:24,300 --> 00:43:26,500
blue collar workers that have

1308
00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:28,700
been displaced or replaced so

1309
00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:29,080
far

1310
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,120
by industrial robots is very,

1311
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,970
very small. And the projection,

1312
00:43:34,970 --> 00:43:37,020
if we extrapolate from

1313
00:43:37,020 --> 00:43:39,220
the past for the next five to

1314
00:43:39,220 --> 00:43:41,420
ten years, is also going to

1315
00:43:41,420 --> 00:43:43,640
have a very small impact on

1316
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,030
the labor force. That's great.

1317
00:43:46,030 --> 00:43:47,910
There you have it. My point is

1318
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:49,800
that I think the main reason

1319
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,540
for this is the fact that today's

1320
00:43:52,540 --> 00:43:55,400
robots are not intelligent.

1321
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,560
They cannot compete effectively

1322
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,060
with human workers. They're

1323
00:44:01,060 --> 00:44:02,710
stupid. Is that changing though

1324
00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:04,090
with the applications to say

1325
00:44:04,090 --> 00:44:05,710
artificial intelligence and say

1326
00:44:05,710 --> 00:44:07,200
knowledge based systems, are

1327
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:08,630
those a factor in what's going

1328
00:44:08,630 --> 00:44:10,110
on? Well I think Gary there is

1329
00:44:10,110 --> 00:44:11,530
maybe a little bit of a fucking

1330
00:44:11,530 --> 00:44:12,700
happy smile face on about it.

1331
00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:13,970
But apparently your man's

1332
00:44:13,970 --> 00:44:16,030
saying the robots are still too

1333
00:44:16,030 --> 00:44:17,820
stupid to really be worth

1334
00:44:17,820 --> 00:44:19,500
fucking worrying about.

1335
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:20,520
And that's in 1983.

1336
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:21,680
And you know what?

1337
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,760
I think he was right in a way,

1338
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,200
even though I'm basing that

1339
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,510
opinion on absolutely no

1340
00:44:26,510 --> 00:44:27,900
research whatsoever.

1341
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:29,610
Yeah, there's robots in

1342
00:44:29,610 --> 00:44:31,740
factories and they're fucking

1343
00:44:31,740 --> 00:44:34,060
doing like, you know, making

1344
00:44:34,060 --> 00:44:35,540
cars and welding and arc

1345
00:44:35,540 --> 00:44:37,610
welding and die casting and all

1346
00:44:37,610 --> 00:44:38,260
that.

1347
00:44:38,260 --> 00:44:40,730
But it's still the meat and

1348
00:44:40,730 --> 00:44:42,580
potatoes jobs, you know?

1349
00:44:43,300 --> 00:44:44,310
That you need a real human to

1350
00:44:44,310 --> 00:44:44,740
do.

1351
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:46,220
And you ain't going to get a

1352
00:44:46,220 --> 00:44:47,340
robot to do that.

1353
00:44:48,060 --> 00:44:49,180
Not even now with all this AI

1354
00:44:49,180 --> 00:44:50,060
bullshit.

1355
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:52,280
Okay?

1356
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:53,820
It's a while away yet.

1357
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:55,780
It's a while away yet.

1358
00:44:56,700 --> 00:44:58,400
Stolen Murphy's glass.

1359
00:44:58,500 --> 00:45:00,700
Thank you very much there for

1360
00:45:00,700 --> 00:45:01,620
the tip.

1361
00:45:01,780 --> 00:45:02,380
And Dave.

1362
00:45:02,380 --> 00:45:03,980
I think, as David points out,

1363
00:45:03,980 --> 00:45:05,390
there's a whole spectrum of

1364
00:45:05,390 --> 00:45:06,820
applications from the very

1365
00:45:06,820 --> 00:45:08,330
simple, which are being handled

1366
00:45:08,330 --> 00:45:10,320
by the very simple pick-and-place

1367
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,720
mechanical devices.

1368
00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:13,280
That, for example, the Japanese

1369
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,860
would call robots and we don't.

1370
00:45:14,860 --> 00:45:16,160
To the very esoteric

1371
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,190
applications, which require

1372
00:45:18,190 --> 00:45:20,540
lots of intelligence, lots of

1373
00:45:20,540 --> 00:45:21,860
sensory capability.

1374
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,340
But there's a broad spectrum of

1375
00:45:23,340 --> 00:45:24,870
applications somewhere in the

1376
00:45:24,870 --> 00:45:26,410
middle, where if you select the

1377
00:45:26,410 --> 00:45:28,170
application properly, then in

1378
00:45:28,170 --> 00:45:28,880
fact...

1379
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,200
Lots of talk about the Japanese.

1380
00:45:31,900 --> 00:45:32,690
They keep up mentioning the

1381
00:45:32,690 --> 00:45:33,440
Japanese.

1382
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,460
I think back at this time, the

1383
00:45:35,460 --> 00:45:36,720
Japanese were the biggest toast

1384
00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:37,360
in town.

1385
00:45:37,620 --> 00:45:39,000
Now it's probably the Chinese.

1386
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:41,900
Do you know?

1387
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:44,560
But then we're seeing a little

1388
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:45,120
insight.

1389
00:45:45,220 --> 00:45:46,590
Actually, the whole point of me

1390
00:45:46,590 --> 00:45:48,160
going on that fucking robot detour

1391
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,300
was to show you the robots

1392
00:45:49,300 --> 00:45:50,550
kicking the fuck out of each

1393
00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:51,580
other in the ring.

1394
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,420
I got sidetracked by the...

1395
00:45:53,420 --> 00:45:56,550
The flailing arms of a robot

1396
00:45:56,550 --> 00:45:58,100
gone wild.

1397
00:45:58,420 --> 00:46:00,130
And decided to put Daft Punk

1398
00:46:00,130 --> 00:46:01,520
music to it as well.

1399
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,350
Which was brilliant, in my

1400
00:46:03,350 --> 00:46:04,040
opinion.

1401
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,820
But it did detract, or distract,

1402
00:46:06,820 --> 00:46:09,660
from the real meat and potatoes.

1403
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,190
The reason why I detoured in

1404
00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:12,320
the first place.

1405
00:46:12,740 --> 00:46:13,560
And that's...

1406
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:14,700
Crazy bit of business.

1407
00:46:15,140 --> 00:46:16,040
China style.

1408
00:46:17,260 --> 00:46:19,720
Forget about your fucking UFCs.

1409
00:46:20,060 --> 00:46:21,920
And your WFs.

1410
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:23,840
And your bantamweight champion

1411
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:24,840
of the worlds.

1412
00:46:25,340 --> 00:46:28,520
This is the new frontier of

1413
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,300
hand-to-hand combat.

1414
00:46:31,980 --> 00:46:32,900
Robo wars.

1415
00:46:33,460 --> 00:46:34,420
Real...

1416
00:46:34,420 --> 00:46:35,660
This is like...

1417
00:46:35,660 --> 00:46:36,960
Remember robot wars?

1418
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,460
But this is like proper humanoid

1419
00:46:39,460 --> 00:46:40,340
robots.

1420
00:46:40,700 --> 00:46:41,220
Not...

1421
00:46:41,220 --> 00:46:43,010
Not these little things that

1422
00:46:43,010 --> 00:46:44,860
just fucking drive around with

1423
00:46:44,860 --> 00:46:46,730
a saw or a fucking flamethrower

1424
00:46:46,730 --> 00:46:47,900
attached to it.

1425
00:46:48,380 --> 00:46:49,480
And God knows what it's gonna

1426
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:50,120
be like.

1427
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:51,020
You just control them, look,

1428
00:46:51,020 --> 00:46:51,900
with these little...

1429
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,020
Xbox controllers.

1430
00:46:54,420 --> 00:46:55,520
The side of the ring.

1431
00:46:55,860 --> 00:46:57,420
And then they go at it.

1432
00:46:58,620 --> 00:46:59,250
Human operators outside the

1433
00:46:59,250 --> 00:47:01,230
ring, giving robots commands

1434
00:47:01,230 --> 00:47:02,740
via remote control.

1435
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:03,730
The robots were armed with

1436
00:47:03,730 --> 00:47:05,420
several different combat moves...

1437
00:47:05,420 --> 00:47:05,980
Look at this.

1438
00:47:05,980 --> 00:47:07,660
...moves that Unitree says came

1439
00:47:07,660 --> 00:47:08,760
from external experts who

1440
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:09,980
provided reference data for

1441
00:47:09,980 --> 00:47:10,660
training.

1442
00:47:10,660 --> 00:47:12,670
Apologies there if that was too

1443
00:47:12,670 --> 00:47:13,280
loud.

1444
00:47:13,380 --> 00:47:13,900
I'm trying to...

1445
00:47:13,900 --> 00:47:15,710
These moves include straight

1446
00:47:15,710 --> 00:47:17,730
punches, hooks, uppercuts, a

1447
00:47:17,730 --> 00:47:19,670
roundhouse kick, front knee,

1448
00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:20,660
and...

1449
00:47:20,660 --> 00:47:22,540
What looks to me like a front

1450
00:47:22,540 --> 00:47:23,980
kick or push kick.

1451
00:47:24,220 --> 00:47:25,230
Martial arts experts, let us

1452
00:47:25,230 --> 00:47:26,520
know down in the comments which

1453
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:27,500
one you think it is.

1454
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:28,660
The robots are also able...

1455
00:47:29,660 --> 00:47:30,740
Look at that.

1456
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:32,500
Jing pi.

1457
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:35,500
Jing pi.

1458
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:35,880
Jing.

1459
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:37,520
Hyper...

1460
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:38,600
Hyper G series.

1461
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:40,940
Why do they have these on?

1462
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,720
To fucking prevent...

1463
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:44,700
A cognitive brain injury.

1464
00:47:44,780 --> 00:47:45,920
They don't have a brain.

1465
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:47,720
Unless there's some sort of...

1466
00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:51,160
High value chip inside the head.

1467
00:47:51,300 --> 00:47:52,720
But I would say...

1468
00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:53,830
If anything, they would

1469
00:47:53,830 --> 00:47:54,960
probably put...

1470
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,680
Any of the components that were

1471
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:57,720
kind of...

1472
00:47:58,260 --> 00:47:58,940
You know, you didn't want them

1473
00:47:58,940 --> 00:47:59,880
getting fucked up.

1474
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:01,960
You'd put them ensconced inside...

1475
00:48:03,060 --> 00:48:04,400
The torso, maybe.

1476
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,580
Or whatever part of the body is

1477
00:48:06,580 --> 00:48:08,880
less likely to take damage.

1478
00:48:11,020 --> 00:48:12,640
Real brains used.

1479
00:48:13,220 --> 00:48:14,280
Somebody is saying there.

1480
00:48:14,860 --> 00:48:15,460
We don't know.

1481
00:48:15,820 --> 00:48:17,160
I mean, I don't have any intel

1482
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:17,840
on that.

1483
00:48:17,940 --> 00:48:18,820
But we do hear there's a big

1484
00:48:18,820 --> 00:48:19,960
market and sort of...

1485
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:20,960
Well, to pivot and move around...

1486
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:21,960
Stuff like that going on...

1487
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:22,960
In certain parts...

1488
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,080
Of the world.

1489
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,230
In the opening match, it was

1490
00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:27,200
blue versus purple.

1491
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:28,500
With the other robots standing

1492
00:48:28,500 --> 00:48:29,720
in the corners of the ring.

1493
00:48:29,980 --> 00:48:30,540
Cheering on...

1494
00:48:30,540 --> 00:48:31,620
So that's great.

1495
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,190
They have other robots in the

1496
00:48:33,190 --> 00:48:34,720
corner of the ring as well.

1497
00:48:34,780 --> 00:48:36,080
Just cheering on...

1498
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,000
Their counterparts.

1499
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,080
I wonder, do they have thoughts...

1500
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,300
About their other counterparts?

1501
00:48:42,540 --> 00:48:43,040
Or feelings?

1502
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:43,780
Or...

1503
00:48:43,780 --> 00:48:44,900
I mean, obviously not feelings.

1504
00:48:45,020 --> 00:48:45,540
But...

1505
00:48:45,540 --> 00:48:47,080
Is it possible for...

1506
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,080
Feelings to blossom...

1507
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:49,940
Inside these machines?

1508
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,580
We've seen movies about it.

1509
00:48:51,580 --> 00:48:51,920
Sure.

1510
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,220
But what about now?

1511
00:48:54,020 --> 00:48:55,660
The robot-on-robot carnage.

1512
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:56,850
While it's humans calling the

1513
00:48:56,850 --> 00:48:58,380
shots from the sidelines...

1514
00:48:58,380 --> 00:48:59,410
Can love blossom on the

1515
00:48:59,410 --> 00:49:00,200
battlefield?

1516
00:49:00,460 --> 00:49:01,610
That's another question that we've

1517
00:49:01,610 --> 00:49:02,240
been asked.

1518
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:03,550
...themselves must maintain

1519
00:49:03,550 --> 00:49:04,220
their balance.

1520
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:05,820
While taking punches and

1521
00:49:05,820 --> 00:49:08,060
performing kicks and knees...

1522
00:49:08,060 --> 00:49:09,360
That sometimes force them onto

1523
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:09,840
one leg.

1524
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:11,330
Unitree says this was achieved

1525
00:49:11,330 --> 00:49:12,660
by a combination...

1526
00:49:12,660 --> 00:49:13,980
I love the way the floor is the

1527
00:49:13,980 --> 00:49:15,600
floor protector thing...

1528
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:16,560
That you can get on Amazon.

1529
00:49:17,060 --> 00:49:17,700
I got one.

1530
00:49:18,780 --> 00:49:19,900
Bit of a letdown, actually.

1531
00:49:19,980 --> 00:49:20,900
I thought it was going to be...

1532
00:49:20,900 --> 00:49:23,020
Get a wider area coverage.

1533
00:49:23,020 --> 00:49:23,860
Coverage.

1534
00:49:23,980 --> 00:49:25,020
But for 30 euro...

1535
00:49:26,300 --> 00:49:27,700
You don't get that much at all,

1536
00:49:27,700 --> 00:49:28,660
you know?

1537
00:49:29,140 --> 00:49:30,760
...of sensors in the robot...

1538
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,030
Which feed it information on

1539
00:49:32,030 --> 00:49:33,380
its body position...

1540
00:49:33,380 --> 00:49:34,530
As well as AI reinforcement

1541
00:49:34,530 --> 00:49:35,400
learning...

1542
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,420
Performed in simulation.

1543
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:37,550
The robot in the blue took a

1544
00:49:37,550 --> 00:49:38,320
spill...

1545
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:39,410
While attempting to knee the

1546
00:49:39,410 --> 00:49:40,360
purple robot...

1547
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:41,480
But was able to recover.

1548
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,120
Shortly after that...

1549
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:43,930
The purple robot seemed to lose

1550
00:49:43,930 --> 00:49:44,380
its...

1551
00:49:44,380 --> 00:49:45,440
I thought that...

1552
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,040
What was this lad doing?

1553
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:47,840
He looks pissed.

1554
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:49,800
Mistbot 5000...

1555
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,060
On the sauce simulator.

1556
00:49:52,060 --> 00:49:53,750
I thought he was about to start

1557
00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:55,000
flaking the referee.

1558
00:49:56,780 --> 00:49:58,240
Let's just see that again.

1559
00:49:58,240 --> 00:49:58,800
Alan's while throwing...

1560
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,460
...was able to recover...

1561
00:50:01,460 --> 00:50:02,440
Going for the ref look.

1562
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:03,020
Shortly after that...

1563
00:50:03,020 --> 00:50:03,700
Look at that.

1564
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,350
Even she got a little bit

1565
00:50:05,350 --> 00:50:06,700
disturbed by it.

1566
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,240
You can see how she steps back.

1567
00:50:08,380 --> 00:50:12,600
That's where she was initially.

1568
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:17,820
After that...

1569
00:50:17,820 --> 00:50:18,900
The purple robot seemed to lose

1570
00:50:18,900 --> 00:50:19,760
its balance...

1571
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,010
He must have had a few singtows

1572
00:50:21,010 --> 00:50:22,240
before the fight...

1573
00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:23,480
...throwing a combo...

1574
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:24,440
...falling over the ropes

1575
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:25,240
lining the ring...

1576
00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:25,740
...then...

1577
00:50:25,740 --> 00:50:26,380
...paced...

1578
00:50:26,380 --> 00:50:28,380
...onto the ropes...

1579
00:50:28,380 --> 00:50:33,380
...and it's a pink...

1580
00:50:33,380 --> 00:50:35,420
It's a lady robot.

1581
00:50:37,700 --> 00:50:38,140
Wow.

1582
00:50:38,140 --> 00:50:40,900
While it took these robots a

1583
00:50:40,900 --> 00:50:42,760
second...

1584
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:43,800
...to find each other on the

1585
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:44,560
battlefield...

1586
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,060
...eventually they locked in...

1587
00:50:46,060 --> 00:50:47,300
...resulting in one of the most

1588
00:50:47,300 --> 00:50:48,140
devastating...

1589
00:50:48,140 --> 00:50:49,680
...clashes of the entire event.

1590
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:50,180
Wow.

1591
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:51,450
AI strategist took the first

1592
00:50:51,450 --> 00:50:52,180
fall...

1593
00:50:52,180 --> 00:50:53,210
...when a kick threw it off

1594
00:50:53,210 --> 00:50:53,800
balance...

1595
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,460
...but it was back on its feet...

1596
00:50:55,460 --> 00:50:56,810
...and taunting its opponent in

1597
00:50:56,810 --> 00:50:57,220
no time.

1598
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:58,340
In the next round...

1599
00:50:58,340 --> 00:50:59,530
...the silk artisan got its leg

1600
00:50:59,530 --> 00:51:00,120
caught...

1601
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,280
...on the AI strategist...

1602
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:02,460
...causing it to stumble...

1603
00:51:02,460 --> 00:51:03,620
...but it stayed on its feet.

1604
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:04,770
Both sides landed some good

1605
00:51:04,770 --> 00:51:05,460
hits...

1606
00:51:05,460 --> 00:51:05,540
...trading below.

1607
00:51:05,540 --> 00:51:06,700
Thank you very much there.

1608
00:51:06,780 --> 00:51:08,020
We miss you Fisto...

1609
00:51:08,020 --> 00:51:09,120
...and what about the Uyghurs?

1610
00:51:09,260 --> 00:51:10,280
Thank you very much there.

1611
00:51:10,740 --> 00:51:12,280
And Stolen Murphy's Glass...

1612
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:12,680
...and Dave.

1613
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:13,760
Very very kind of you lads.

1614
00:51:14,220 --> 00:51:15,540
In the next round...

1615
00:51:15,540 --> 00:51:16,330
...black delivered a

1616
00:51:16,330 --> 00:51:17,020
devastating...

1617
00:51:17,020 --> 00:51:17,680
...knee to pink.

1618
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:18,480
Oh fuck.

1619
00:51:18,500 --> 00:51:19,200
...but it wasn't enough to keep

1620
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:19,540
the...

1621
00:51:19,540 --> 00:51:20,600
...in the next round...

1622
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:21,640
...black delivered a

1623
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:22,540
devastating...

1624
00:51:22,540 --> 00:51:23,900
...knee to pink.

1625
00:51:25,240 --> 00:51:26,140
And we can go for a super slow-mo

1626
00:51:26,140 --> 00:51:27,540
on that...

1627
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,360
...just to really get a...

1628
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,340
...a sense of the...

1629
00:51:31,340 --> 00:51:32,780
...because it happens so fast...

1630
00:51:32,780 --> 00:51:33,540
...you know it's like UFC...

1631
00:51:34,300 --> 00:51:35,540
...you hardly fucking notice...

1632
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,440
...when the...

1633
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:38,700
...the killer blows...

1634
00:51:38,700 --> 00:51:39,900
...are sometimes landed...

1635
00:51:39,900 --> 00:51:40,140
...you know?

1636
00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:42,700
And that was like a real knee...

1637
00:51:42,700 --> 00:51:43,760
...to the groin box.

1638
00:51:44,300 --> 00:51:44,660
Maybe.

1639
00:51:46,060 --> 00:51:47,380
Fucking lifted it off...

1640
00:51:47,380 --> 00:51:48,480
...lifted it off its feet.

1641
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:50,560
Look at that.

1642
00:51:54,940 --> 00:51:57,120
It's known as the garlic knee...

1643
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:57,800
...in China.

1644
00:51:58,380 --> 00:52:00,320
And the crowd went crazy for it.

1645
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,080
You can see them all...

1646
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,480
...clapping and loving it...

1647
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,020
...in the side.

1648
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:05,940
This is just a...

1649
00:52:05,940 --> 00:52:07,320
...this is a Saturday afternoon...

1650
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,040
...for these lads.

1651
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,040
...the silk artisan down.

1652
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:13,580
Black delivered a devastating

1653
00:52:13,580 --> 00:52:14,740
knee to pink...

1654
00:52:14,740 --> 00:52:15,880
...but it wasn't enough...

1655
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:16,910
...to keep the silk artisan

1656
00:52:16,910 --> 00:52:17,200
down.

1657
00:52:17,540 --> 00:52:18,550
The face-off came to a brutal

1658
00:52:18,550 --> 00:52:19,700
conclusion...

1659
00:52:19,700 --> 00:52:20,820
...when pink went for a right

1660
00:52:20,820 --> 00:52:21,360
hook...

1661
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:22,660
...as black went for the knee.

1662
00:52:23,020 --> 00:52:24,010
Throwing the silk artisan off

1663
00:52:24,010 --> 00:52:24,920
balance...

1664
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,110
...and sending its legs all

1665
00:52:26,110 --> 00:52:27,020
over the place...

1666
00:52:27,020 --> 00:52:27,800
...in a finisher...

1667
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:28,920
...that looks like it belongs...

1668
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,060
...in a Mortal Kombat video

1669
00:52:30,060 --> 00:52:30,360
game.

1670
00:52:30,700 --> 00:52:31,780
AI strategists celebrated the

1671
00:52:31,780 --> 00:52:32,920
devastation...

1672
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,580
...that was a malfunction there.

1673
00:52:35,720 --> 00:52:37,420
Throwing the silk artisan off...

1674
00:52:37,420 --> 00:52:38,360
...look at that one.

1675
00:52:40,300 --> 00:52:42,060
Whatever happened there...

1676
00:52:42,060 --> 00:52:43,740
...the pink robot...

1677
00:52:43,740 --> 00:52:45,200
...ended up with the Jimmy legs.

1678
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,140
I didn't realize the legs...

1679
00:52:47,140 --> 00:52:47,920
...could do that...

1680
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,000
...360 degree rotation.

1681
00:52:51,220 --> 00:52:52,240
But uh...

1682
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:53,640
...they're fucking scary enough...

1683
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:54,780
...when they start going...

1684
00:52:54,780 --> 00:52:56,320
...flailing around like that,

1685
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:56,740
you know?

1686
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:57,860
They're actually at their

1687
00:52:57,860 --> 00:52:58,780
scariest...

1688
00:52:59,380 --> 00:53:01,100
...when they're wildly...

1689
00:53:01,100 --> 00:53:01,780
...fucking...

1690
00:53:01,780 --> 00:53:03,240
...flailing around.

1691
00:53:04,020 --> 00:53:05,740
As we saw in the video there...

1692
00:53:05,740 --> 00:53:06,440
...in the lab...

1693
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:06,780
...the lab...

1694
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:08,540
...you know, the warehouse...

1695
00:53:08,540 --> 00:53:09,620
...whatever you fucking call it.

1696
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:11,040
Uh...

1697
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,190
...it's not when they're

1698
00:53:12,190 --> 00:53:13,180
actually doing...

1699
00:53:13,180 --> 00:53:14,700
...replications of real human

1700
00:53:14,700 --> 00:53:15,620
movements...

1701
00:53:15,620 --> 00:53:16,620
...it's when they're going...

1702
00:53:16,620 --> 00:53:17,660
...fucking Lula.

1703
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:19,740
And it's a case of...

1704
00:53:19,740 --> 00:53:20,700
...we need to get out of here...

1705
00:53:20,700 --> 00:53:21,680
...and we gotta go.

1706
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:22,620
...video game.

1707
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,320
AI strategists celebrated...

1708
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:25,280
...the devastating blow...

1709
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:26,620
...by falling face first...

1710
00:53:26,620 --> 00:53:27,320
...over the Silk Artisan...

1711
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,440
...and a nail-biting conclusion...

1712
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:29,780
...to a thriller.

1713
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:31,720
And that's the conclusion.

1714
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:32,440
...match.

1715
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:35,620
Look at this little...

1716
00:53:35,620 --> 00:53:36,500
...the music...

1717
00:53:36,500 --> 00:53:37,500
...and the...

1718
00:53:37,500 --> 00:53:38,740
...the camera work...

1719
00:53:38,740 --> 00:53:39,140
...as well.

1720
00:53:40,220 --> 00:53:40,320
...love these...

1721
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:41,320
...kind of MTV...

1722
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:42,320
...kind of...

1723
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:44,180
...dutch angles.

1724
00:53:44,420 --> 00:53:46,180
...and here he comes.

1725
00:53:47,260 --> 00:53:47,660
...bow.

1726
00:53:47,660 --> 00:53:48,380
...the ultimate bout.

1727
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,040
...the ultimate bout.

1728
00:53:50,220 --> 00:53:51,880
Powercore Guardian in green...

1729
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,020
...went punch for punch...

1730
00:53:53,020 --> 00:53:54,640
...with Armored Mulan in red.

1731
00:53:55,180 --> 00:53:56,060
I thought you're...

1732
00:53:56,060 --> 00:53:57,160
...I thought that robot was

1733
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:57,880
wearing a...

1734
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:58,700
...do you know they wear a

1735
00:53:58,700 --> 00:53:59,220
fucking...

1736
00:53:59,220 --> 00:54:01,260
...a silk gown or a cape...

1737
00:54:01,260 --> 00:54:02,160
...when entering the ring...

1738
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:02,820
...but it wasn't.

1739
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,300
It was just like a Chinese lady...

1740
00:54:04,300 --> 00:54:06,760
...in traditional Chinese dress...

1741
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:07,500
...walking him in.

1742
00:54:07,500 --> 00:54:08,080
...in green...

1743
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,400
...walking the robot in.

1744
00:54:09,620 --> 00:54:10,260
Paul Meskel...

1745
00:54:10,260 --> 00:54:11,200
...thank you very much there.

1746
00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:12,900
Look at this.

1747
00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:16,050
The fight began with a clash of

1748
00:54:16,050 --> 00:54:17,120
kicks.

1749
00:54:17,620 --> 00:54:18,500
Robots traded...

1750
00:54:18,500 --> 00:54:19,320
Clash of kicks.

1751
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,200
Green took the first fall...

1752
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:22,500
...when a kick went wrong...

1753
00:54:22,500 --> 00:54:23,880
...but it was back on its feet...

1754
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:24,360
...in no time.

1755
00:54:24,620 --> 00:54:25,550
The green team was feeling

1756
00:54:25,550 --> 00:54:26,580
confident...

1757
00:54:26,580 --> 00:54:27,720
...taunting red repeatedly.

1758
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:29,140
At one point the robots...

1759
00:54:29,140 --> 00:54:30,060
...got stuck together...

1760
00:54:30,060 --> 00:54:31,360
...needing to be pulled apart...

1761
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:31,860
...by the referee.

1762
00:54:32,180 --> 00:54:32,720
They're smart.

1763
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:34,140
The final round saw...

1764
00:54:34,140 --> 00:54:35,660
...AI strategist facing off...

1765
00:54:35,660 --> 00:54:36,980
...against Power Core Guardian.

1766
00:54:37,240 --> 00:54:38,540
Once again we saw the robots...

1767
00:54:38,540 --> 00:54:39,460
...get stuck together...

1768
00:54:39,460 --> 00:54:40,420
...and need to be separated.

1769
00:54:40,940 --> 00:54:42,240
Green took the first fall...

1770
00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:43,060
...while attempting to knee...

1771
00:54:43,060 --> 00:54:44,080
...the robot in black...

1772
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:45,460
...but came back strong...

1773
00:54:45,460 --> 00:54:46,660
...seeming totally unmoved...

1774
00:54:46,660 --> 00:54:47,620
...by what appeared to be...

1775
00:54:47,620 --> 00:54:48,580
...a powerful kick...

1776
00:54:48,580 --> 00:54:49,620
...from AI strategist.

1777
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:51,220
Oof.

1778
00:54:51,220 --> 00:54:51,700
Oof.

1779
00:54:52,500 --> 00:54:52,860
Oof.

1780
00:54:52,860 --> 00:54:53,860
As the match heated up...

1781
00:54:53,860 --> 00:54:54,580
...the robots traded...

1782
00:54:54,580 --> 00:54:55,740
...did well to stay...

1783
00:54:55,740 --> 00:54:56,520
...on his feet there.

1784
00:54:58,100 --> 00:54:59,080
Yo, yo, yo, yo.

1785
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:00,240
Dara Dermody...

1786
00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:01,120
...thank you very much there.

1787
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:02,980
And T'Pol Meskel said...

1788
00:55:02,980 --> 00:55:03,780
...this robot...

1789
00:55:03,780 --> 00:55:04,820
...knockout competition...

1790
00:55:04,820 --> 00:55:05,600
...we're witnessing here...

1791
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:06,880
...was held the other day...

1792
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,700
...in honour of Brian Wilson.

1793
00:55:09,300 --> 00:55:10,760
...who sadly passed...

1794
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:11,120
...and that's...

1795
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:11,820
...that was...

1796
00:55:11,820 --> 00:55:12,820
...the match heated up...

1797
00:55:12,820 --> 00:55:13,620
...the robots traded...

1798
00:55:13,620 --> 00:55:14,260
...taunts and blows.

1799
00:55:14,260 --> 00:55:15,310
But at least they did this

1800
00:55:15,310 --> 00:55:16,320
tournament...

1801
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:17,210
...which was nice with the

1802
00:55:17,210 --> 00:55:17,560
Chinese.

1803
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:18,680
I didn't even realise...

1804
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:19,680
...the Beach Boys were big in

1805
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:20,000
China.

1806
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,380
...but they probably were.

1807
00:55:21,380 --> 00:55:22,520
...the green robot on its back.

1808
00:55:23,340 --> 00:55:24,900
Another well-timed right hook...

1809
00:55:24,900 --> 00:55:26,220
...put green down again.

1810
00:55:26,900 --> 00:55:27,650
It wasn't looking good for the

1811
00:55:27,650 --> 00:55:28,400
green team.

1812
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,600
It's what he would have wanted...

1813
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:30,340
...says Walter.

1814
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,060
...but green had one more big

1815
00:55:32,060 --> 00:55:32,840
push...

1816
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:33,220
...left in it.

1817
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:34,620
A jab from green...

1818
00:55:34,620 --> 00:55:35,700
...caught AI strategist...

1819
00:55:35,700 --> 00:55:36,560
...in the middle of a kick.

1820
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,620
Jab from the green...

1821
00:55:38,620 --> 00:55:40,120
...caught AI strategist...

1822
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:41,080
...in the middle of the kick.

1823
00:55:41,220 --> 00:55:42,040
...throwing the robot off

1824
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:42,660
balance...

1825
00:55:42,660 --> 00:55:43,760
...and sending it stumbling...

1826
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:44,760
...to the ropes...

1827
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:45,640
...where it got tangled up.

1828
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,080
Green fought with a lot...

1829
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,080
...of whatever the robot...

1830
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:49,500
...equivalent of heart is.

1831
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:50,820
But it wasn't enough.

1832
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:52,460
AI strategist took home...

1833
00:55:52,460 --> 00:55:53,280
...the top prize...

1834
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,440
...at the China Media Group...

1835
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:55,420
...World Robot Tournament...

1836
00:55:55,420 --> 00:55:56,300
And there's the confetti.

1837
00:55:56,420 --> 00:55:57,800
There's the ticker tape parade.

1838
00:55:57,900 --> 00:55:58,920
The confetti is out.

1839
00:55:59,580 --> 00:56:00,840
The G1 humanoid robot...

1840
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:01,750
...comes in several different

1841
00:56:01,750 --> 00:56:02,220
models...

1842
00:56:02,220 --> 00:56:03,620
...and for this competition...

1843
00:56:03,620 --> 00:56:04,740
...Unitree was showcasing...

1844
00:56:04,740 --> 00:56:06,100
...the top-of-the-line EDU

1845
00:56:06,100 --> 00:56:06,820
model...

1846
00:56:06,820 --> 00:56:08,140
...with added combat control.

1847
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:09,550
Unitree says the G1 humanoid

1848
00:56:09,550 --> 00:56:10,400
robot...

1849
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:11,610
...can be controlled by remote

1850
00:56:11,610 --> 00:56:12,240
control...

1851
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:13,280
...voice command...

1852
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:14,900
...or motion sensing control.

1853
00:56:15,220 --> 00:56:16,180
Remote controls were used...

1854
00:56:16,180 --> 00:56:17,060
...in this competition...

1855
00:56:17,060 --> 00:56:17,880
...for ease of use...

1856
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:18,960
...and to minimize latency.

1857
00:56:19,540 --> 00:56:20,550
However, Unitree has shown

1858
00:56:20,550 --> 00:56:21,520
video...

1859
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:22,280
...of its robots...

1860
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:23,780
...throwing punches, kicks...

1861
00:56:23,780 --> 00:56:24,680
...and taunts...

1862
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:25,480
...with voice commands.

1863
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:28,920
What do you think...

1864
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,340
...about Unitree's robot combat?

1865
00:56:30,780 --> 00:56:32,300
Real Steel IRL...

1866
00:56:32,300 --> 00:56:33,580
...or Terminators in the making?

1867
00:56:33,900 --> 00:56:34,700
Let us know down in the

1868
00:56:34,700 --> 00:56:35,420
comments.

1869
00:56:35,900 --> 00:56:36,520
Great stuff.

1870
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,400
Terminators in the making.

1871
00:56:38,940 --> 00:56:40,220
Remember to let us know...

1872
00:56:40,220 --> 00:56:41,240
...down in the comments.

1873
00:56:41,460 --> 00:56:42,800
Like and subscribe...

1874
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:43,950
...and remember to hit that

1875
00:56:43,950 --> 00:56:44,420
bell...

1876
00:56:44,420 --> 00:56:45,420
...every day.

1877
00:56:45,420 --> 00:56:45,800
...and hit that bell...

1878
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:45,920
...every day.

1879
00:56:48,180 --> 00:56:49,480
...can be very...

1880
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:50,600
...very cost-effective...

1881
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:51,720
...and very competitive...

1882
00:56:51,720 --> 00:56:52,980
...with a minimal amount of...

1883
00:56:52,980 --> 00:56:53,720
...of intelligence.

1884
00:56:54,460 --> 00:56:55,910
Ultimately, we will have to go

1885
00:56:55,910 --> 00:56:56,740
to...

1886
00:56:56,740 --> 00:56:57,420
...intelligent machines...

1887
00:56:57,420 --> 00:56:59,000
...in distributed intelligence

1888
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,040
architectures...

1889
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,040
...where the robotic...

1890
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:01,720
...element...

1891
00:57:01,720 --> 00:57:02,980
...100 robots...

1892
00:57:02,980 --> 00:57:04,100
...versus one gorilla...

1893
00:57:04,100 --> 00:57:04,660
...who wins.

1894
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:05,800
Definitely the robots...

1895
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:06,340
...unfortunately.

1896
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:07,600
It would be sad to see that...

1897
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,100
...beautiful...

1898
00:57:09,100 --> 00:57:11,040
...beautiful primate beast...

1899
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,040
...besieged...

1900
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:13,520
...by...

1901
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:14,040
...mechanized...

1902
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:15,460
...killers.

1903
00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:16,820
...but I would actually like to

1904
00:57:16,820 --> 00:57:17,340
fight...

1905
00:57:17,340 --> 00:57:18,340
...one of those robots...

1906
00:57:18,340 --> 00:57:19,100
...we've just seen...

1907
00:57:19,100 --> 00:57:21,100
...but I want to have padding...

1908
00:57:21,100 --> 00:57:22,100
...and...

1909
00:57:22,100 --> 00:57:23,240
...a metal...

1910
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:24,180
...steel bar...

1911
00:57:24,180 --> 00:57:24,900
...or bat...

1912
00:57:24,900 --> 00:57:27,020
...because I don't think...

1913
00:57:27,020 --> 00:57:28,340
...flesh versus...

1914
00:57:28,340 --> 00:57:30,340
...metal is just not...

1915
00:57:30,340 --> 00:57:31,340
...it's not a fair...

1916
00:57:31,340 --> 00:57:32,340
...match...

1917
00:57:32,340 --> 00:57:33,340
...by...

1918
00:57:33,340 --> 00:57:34,480
...probably...

1919
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:34,820
...you know...

1920
00:57:34,820 --> 00:57:36,140
...there's money to be made...

1921
00:57:36,140 --> 00:57:36,680
...I'd say...

1922
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:37,860
...in one of those situations...

1923
00:57:37,860 --> 00:57:39,420
...by like getting...

1924
00:57:39,420 --> 00:57:40,080
...you know...

1925
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:41,460
...make someone sign a waiver...

1926
00:57:41,460 --> 00:57:42,000
...saying you know...

1927
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:42,600
...you're okay...

1928
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:43,460
...if you get fucked up...

1929
00:57:43,460 --> 00:57:44,880
...you're not gonna sue us...

1930
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:45,820
...and then...

1931
00:57:45,820 --> 00:57:47,130
...letting them fight your

1932
00:57:47,130 --> 00:57:47,820
robot...

1933
00:57:47,820 --> 00:57:50,460
...you'd have to be able to...

1934
00:57:50,460 --> 00:57:52,140
...put the robot back together...

1935
00:57:52,140 --> 00:57:52,820
...obviously afterwards...

1936
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:53,820
...you know...

1937
00:57:53,820 --> 00:57:55,240
...but that's not...

1938
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:56,180
...too far away...

1939
00:57:56,180 --> 00:57:57,250
...I know there's a place in

1940
00:57:57,250 --> 00:57:57,860
Dublin...

1941
00:57:57,860 --> 00:57:57,940
...that...

1942
00:57:57,940 --> 00:57:59,000
...it's like a...

1943
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,060
...a chaos room...

1944
00:58:00,060 --> 00:58:00,940
...or something like that...

1945
00:58:00,940 --> 00:58:01,320
...where...

1946
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,560
...you can fucking pay them...

1947
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:04,460
...and they'll let you...

1948
00:58:04,460 --> 00:58:05,260
...into this room...

1949
00:58:05,260 --> 00:58:06,460
...for half an hour...

1950
00:58:06,460 --> 00:58:07,620
...and you can just fucking

1951
00:58:07,620 --> 00:58:08,220
smash...

1952
00:58:08,220 --> 00:58:09,520
...loads of shite up...

1953
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:10,700
...with a bar...

1954
00:58:10,700 --> 00:58:11,600
...you know like...

1955
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:12,680
...you can even bring...

1956
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:13,460
...your own stuff...

1957
00:58:13,460 --> 00:58:14,420
...if you want to smash it up...

1958
00:58:14,420 --> 00:58:15,260
...they might provide stuff...

1959
00:58:15,260 --> 00:58:16,220
...for you as well...

1960
00:58:16,220 --> 00:58:17,500
...but I can imagine then...

1961
00:58:17,500 --> 00:58:19,420
...not too distant future...

1962
00:58:19,420 --> 00:58:20,400
...paying a lad...

1963
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:21,200
...to let you in a room...

1964
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:22,300
...with one of these robot

1965
00:58:22,300 --> 00:58:22,920
fellas...

1966
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,020
...and just...

1967
00:58:24,020 --> 00:58:25,220
...going fucking 90...

1968
00:58:25,220 --> 00:58:26,120
...on the cunt...

1969
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:26,500
...and...

1970
00:58:26,500 --> 00:58:27,220
...and then...

1971
00:58:27,220 --> 00:58:27,600
...you know...

1972
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:28,820
...feeling...

1973
00:58:28,820 --> 00:58:29,340
...whoo...

1974
00:58:29,340 --> 00:58:30,310
...all the comments on the

1975
00:58:30,310 --> 00:58:30,920
reviews...

1976
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:31,620
...on the Google thing...

1977
00:58:31,620 --> 00:58:32,700
...for that smash room...

1978
00:58:32,700 --> 00:58:33,340
...it's all like...

1979
00:58:33,340 --> 00:58:34,450
...this was the best stress

1980
00:58:34,450 --> 00:58:35,180
relief ever...

1981
00:58:35,180 --> 00:58:35,420
...you know...

1982
00:58:35,420 --> 00:58:36,380
...I've paid for...

1983
00:58:36,380 --> 00:58:37,180
...fucking...

1984
00:58:37,180 --> 00:58:38,440
...therapy...

1985
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:39,200
...or meditate...

1986
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:40,540
...I've done meditation courses...

1987
00:58:40,540 --> 00:58:41,180
...and this and the other...

1988
00:58:41,180 --> 00:58:42,300
...but this...

1989
00:58:42,300 --> 00:58:43,740
...after fucking half an hour...

1990
00:58:43,740 --> 00:58:44,640
...in this room...

1991
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:45,680
...I just felt like...

1992
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,240
...I had a whole new person...

1993
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:47,900
...you know...

1994
00:58:47,900 --> 00:58:49,300
...in a totally automated

1995
00:58:49,300 --> 00:58:50,140
factory...

1996
00:58:50,140 --> 00:58:51,340
...would be in communication...

1997
00:58:51,340 --> 00:58:52,940
...through several levels...

1998
00:58:52,940 --> 00:58:54,340
...of computer hierarchy...

1999
00:58:54,340 --> 00:58:55,340
...and...

2000
00:58:55,340 --> 00:58:55,340
...and...

2001
00:58:55,340 --> 00:58:56,340
...the Japanese...

2002
00:58:56,340 --> 00:58:57,340
...and the perception is...

2003
00:58:57,340 --> 00:58:58,730
...that the Japanese are ahead

2004
00:58:58,730 --> 00:58:59,340
of us...

2005
00:58:59,340 --> 00:59:00,340
...in robotics...

2006
00:59:00,340 --> 00:59:01,340
...and you kind of pointed out...

2007
00:59:01,340 --> 00:59:02,340
...a fine line in terms of...

2008
00:59:02,340 --> 00:59:03,340
...defining what a robot is...

2009
00:59:03,340 --> 00:59:05,340
...what is your version...

2010
00:59:05,340 --> 00:59:06,340
...of what's going on...

2011
00:59:06,340 --> 00:59:06,970
...in terms of research in

2012
00:59:06,970 --> 00:59:07,340
Japan...

2013
00:59:07,340 --> 00:59:08,340
...in this country in robots?

2014
00:59:08,340 --> 00:59:09,340
I would say that the Japanese...

2015
00:59:09,340 --> 00:59:10,340
...are ahead of us...

2016
00:59:10,340 --> 00:59:11,340
...in terms of automating...

2017
00:59:11,340 --> 00:59:12,340
...their factories...

2018
00:59:12,340 --> 00:59:13,340
...and their way...

2019
00:59:13,340 --> 00:59:14,340
...of automating the factories...

2020
00:59:14,340 --> 00:59:15,520
...is a very systematic

2021
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:16,340
approach...

2022
00:59:16,340 --> 00:59:17,340
...of looking at a factory...

2023
00:59:17,340 --> 00:59:19,340
...as a unit of production...

2024
00:59:19,340 --> 00:59:20,340
...and going in and solving...

2025
00:59:20,340 --> 00:59:21,340
...the problem systematically...

2026
00:59:21,340 --> 00:59:23,340
...from the bottom end up...

2027
00:59:23,340 --> 00:59:24,340
...looking for the easiest...

2028
00:59:24,340 --> 00:59:24,980
...applications that they can

2029
00:59:24,980 --> 00:59:25,340
resolve...

2030
00:59:25,340 --> 00:59:27,340
...learning in the process...

2031
00:59:27,340 --> 00:59:28,340
...and then moving on...

2032
00:59:28,340 --> 00:59:28,900
...to the next most difficult

2033
00:59:28,900 --> 00:59:29,340
applications...

2034
00:59:29,340 --> 00:59:30,340
...and we see that...

2035
00:59:30,340 --> 00:59:32,340
...as a very logical way...

2036
00:59:32,340 --> 00:59:34,340
...of introducing automation...

2037
00:59:34,340 --> 00:59:36,340
...into our factories...

2038
00:59:36,340 --> 00:59:38,340
...on the other hand...

2039
00:59:38,340 --> 00:59:39,340
...Americans are way ahead...

2040
00:59:39,340 --> 00:59:40,340
...I think...

2041
00:59:40,340 --> 00:59:41,430
...in terms of some of the

2042
00:59:41,430 --> 00:59:42,340
technologies...

2043
00:59:42,340 --> 00:59:43,760
...associated with the anthropomorphic

2044
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:44,340
machine...

2045
00:59:44,340 --> 00:59:45,340
...certainly vision systems...

2046
00:59:45,340 --> 00:59:46,340
...I think we have a lead...

2047
00:59:46,340 --> 00:59:48,340
...over the Japanese...

2048
00:59:48,340 --> 00:59:49,340
...and perhaps some of the...

2049
00:59:49,340 --> 00:59:50,340
...some of the other sensory...

2050
00:59:50,340 --> 00:59:52,340
...areas...

2051
00:59:52,340 --> 00:59:52,960
...but it's becoming a world

2052
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:53,340
business...

2053
00:59:53,340 --> 00:59:54,340
...and Finucle Limited...

2054
00:59:54,340 --> 00:59:55,340
...which is one of the leading...

2055
00:59:55,340 --> 00:59:57,340
...manufacturers in Japan...

2056
00:59:57,340 --> 00:59:58,340
...has just signed...

2057
00:59:58,340 --> 00:59:58,910
...the joint licensing

2058
00:59:58,910 --> 00:59:59,340
agreement...

2059
00:59:59,340 --> 01:00:00,340
...with General Motors...

2060
01:00:00,340 --> 01:00:02,340
...GMF is now...

2061
01:00:02,340 --> 01:00:03,340
...going to be...

2062
01:00:03,340 --> 01:00:04,340
...if not already...

2063
01:00:04,340 --> 01:00:05,340
...the leading supplier...

2064
01:00:05,340 --> 01:00:06,340
...of automation systems...

2065
01:00:06,340 --> 01:00:06,910
...Gentlemen, I have to

2066
01:00:06,910 --> 01:00:07,340
interrupt...

2067
01:00:07,340 --> 01:00:07,910
...because we're going to take

2068
01:00:07,910 --> 01:00:08,340
a short break...

2069
01:00:08,340 --> 01:00:09,340
...and then come back...

2070
01:00:09,340 --> 01:00:09,340
...and meet...

2071
01:00:09,340 --> 01:00:10,700
...the personal robots hero

2072
01:00:10,700 --> 01:00:11,340
from...

2073
01:00:11,340 --> 01:00:12,340
...That's a rarity...

2074
01:00:12,340 --> 01:00:13,340
...in 1983...

2075
01:00:13,340 --> 01:00:15,340
...to see Stu do that...

2076
01:00:15,340 --> 01:00:17,340
...by the way...

2077
01:00:17,340 --> 01:00:18,340
...if...

2078
01:00:18,340 --> 01:00:18,340
...the...

2079
01:00:18,340 --> 01:00:18,340
...I...

2080
01:00:18,340 --> 01:00:19,340
...I didn't think he started...

2081
01:00:19,340 --> 01:00:20,340
...that sort of behaviour...

2082
01:00:20,340 --> 01:00:21,340
...until the 90s...

2083
01:00:21,340 --> 01:00:22,340
...but it's...

2084
01:00:22,340 --> 01:00:23,340
...we see...

2085
01:00:23,340 --> 01:00:24,340
...you know...

2086
01:00:24,340 --> 01:00:25,340
...glimmers of...

2087
01:00:25,340 --> 01:00:26,340
...of...

2088
01:00:26,340 --> 01:00:27,340
...of the man inside...

2089
01:00:27,340 --> 01:00:28,340
...do you know...

2090
01:00:28,340 --> 01:00:28,340
...what...

2091
01:00:28,340 --> 01:00:30,340
...what was to become...

2092
01:00:30,340 --> 01:00:31,340
...him in his final form...

2093
01:00:31,340 --> 01:00:32,340
...the hustler...

2094
01:00:32,340 --> 01:00:33,340
...the harrier...

2095
01:00:33,340 --> 01:00:34,340
...the shaker...

2096
01:00:34,340 --> 01:00:36,340
...the Svengali...

2097
01:00:36,340 --> 01:00:37,340
...the big daddy...

2098
01:00:37,340 --> 01:00:39,340
...the Steuben cigar...

2099
01:00:39,340 --> 01:00:42,340
...is anger power sustainable...

2100
01:00:42,340 --> 01:00:43,340
...thank you very much...

2101
01:00:43,340 --> 01:00:43,340
...for the tip there...

2102
01:00:43,340 --> 01:00:44,340
...there's a lot of anger...

2103
01:00:44,340 --> 01:00:45,340
...out there Francis...

2104
01:00:45,340 --> 01:00:47,340
...could we exploit it somehow...

2105
01:00:47,340 --> 01:00:48,340
...maybe a little war...

2106
01:00:48,340 --> 01:00:49,340
...the war...

2107
01:00:49,340 --> 01:00:50,340
...I said it earlier on...

2108
01:00:50,340 --> 01:00:51,340
...when we were looking at the...

2109
01:00:51,340 --> 01:00:53,340
...the Tel Aviv...

2110
01:00:53,340 --> 01:00:54,340
...bombardment...

2111
01:00:54,340 --> 01:00:55,340
...that...

2112
01:00:55,340 --> 01:00:56,340
...if the war...

2113
01:00:56,340 --> 01:00:57,340
...is gonna happen...

2114
01:00:57,340 --> 01:00:58,340
...soon enough...

2115
01:00:58,340 --> 01:00:59,640
...I don't think it's a popular

2116
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:00,340
opinion...

2117
01:01:00,340 --> 01:01:01,340
...but...

2118
01:01:01,340 --> 01:01:02,340
...I think...

2119
01:01:02,340 --> 01:01:03,340
...a good...

2120
01:01:03,340 --> 01:01:04,340
...fucking...

2121
01:01:04,340 --> 01:01:05,340
...old-fashioned...

2122
01:01:05,340 --> 01:01:06,340
...world war...

2123
01:01:06,340 --> 01:01:07,340
...is what we...

2124
01:01:07,340 --> 01:01:08,340
...probably need...

2125
01:01:08,340 --> 01:01:09,340
...right now...

2126
01:01:09,340 --> 01:01:11,420
...did someone just drop a bomb

2127
01:01:11,420 --> 01:01:12,340
on this shit?

2128
01:01:12,340 --> 01:01:14,480
...'cause that stuff was a

2129
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:15,340
blast...

2130
01:01:15,340 --> 01:01:16,340
...and look...

2131
01:01:16,340 --> 01:01:17,340
...a lot of people say...

2132
01:01:17,340 --> 01:01:18,070
...that's not the right way to

2133
01:01:18,070 --> 01:01:18,340
think...

2134
01:01:18,340 --> 01:01:19,340
...and not to be warmongering...

2135
01:01:19,340 --> 01:01:20,340
...and all that...

2136
01:01:20,340 --> 01:01:21,340
...but...

2137
01:01:21,340 --> 01:01:22,340
...let's face it...

2138
01:01:22,340 --> 01:01:23,340
...there's too much...

2139
01:01:23,340 --> 01:01:25,340
...going on at the moment...

2140
01:01:25,340 --> 01:01:27,340
...and we need a great...

2141
01:01:27,340 --> 01:01:28,340
...big war...

2142
01:01:28,340 --> 01:01:29,340
...to really...

2143
01:01:29,340 --> 01:01:31,340
...set the table...

2144
01:01:31,340 --> 01:01:32,340
...again...

2145
01:01:32,340 --> 01:01:33,340
...because...

2146
01:01:33,340 --> 01:01:34,340
...I think that will...

2147
01:01:34,340 --> 01:01:35,340
...it'll clear...

2148
01:01:35,340 --> 01:01:37,340
...it'll clean out the pipes...

2149
01:01:37,340 --> 01:01:38,340
...the pipes are clogged...

2150
01:01:38,340 --> 01:01:39,740
The pipes are clogged at the

2151
01:01:39,740 --> 01:01:40,100
moment.

2152
01:01:40,980 --> 01:01:42,300
Every day it's a brand new

2153
01:01:42,300 --> 01:01:43,740
story of this, that, the other

2154
01:01:43,740 --> 01:01:44,200
happening.

2155
01:01:45,220 --> 01:01:45,780
Pressure.

2156
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:47,000
Pain.

2157
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:49,640
Anger.

2158
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,310
And I think the only way to get

2159
01:01:52,310 --> 01:01:57,040
that out is a good, hearty, old-fashioned,

2160
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:58,800
balls-to-the-wall,

2161
01:02:00,020 --> 01:02:01,720
World War.

2162
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,720
And if you don't believe me,

2163
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,820
if you don't agree with me,

2164
01:02:07,820 --> 01:02:10,300
then that's fine as well.

2165
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,580
We're not here to polemicise or

2166
01:02:13,580 --> 01:02:16,540
to make grandiose statements

2167
01:02:16,540 --> 01:02:18,740
like we need a war.

2168
01:02:19,260 --> 01:02:20,420
What we are here to do is to

2169
01:02:20,420 --> 01:02:21,680
look at robots.

2170
01:02:21,980 --> 01:02:23,100
And Stuart Shaffey as well.

2171
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:24,930
And the way Stu hustles and harries

2172
01:02:24,930 --> 01:02:25,640
these guys,

2173
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:27,960
I think a war would hustle and

2174
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,540
harry humanity into a new state

2175
01:02:30,540 --> 01:02:31,340
of play,

2176
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:32,620
a new way of thinking, a new

2177
01:02:32,620 --> 01:02:33,400
way of being.

2178
01:02:33,500 --> 01:02:35,550
GMF is now going to be, if not

2179
01:02:35,550 --> 01:02:37,130
already, the leading supplier

2180
01:02:37,130 --> 01:02:38,100
of automation systems.

2181
01:02:38,100 --> 01:02:39,180
Gentlemen, I have to interrupt

2182
01:02:39,180 --> 01:02:40,140
because we're going to take a

2183
01:02:40,140 --> 01:02:40,580
short break

2184
01:02:40,580 --> 01:02:41,970
and then come back and meet two

2185
01:02:41,970 --> 01:02:42,740
personal robots,

2186
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,680
Hero from Heathgib and Teachmover

2187
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:45,760
from Microbot.

2188
01:02:45,860 --> 01:02:46,490
That's coming up in just a

2189
01:02:46,490 --> 01:02:46,840
moment.

2190
01:02:46,860 --> 01:02:48,460
Hero from Heathgib.

2191
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:49,800
Is this the Hero?

2192
01:02:50,900 --> 01:02:52,980
There goes my Hero.

2193
01:02:52,980 --> 01:02:54,030
This is George Oliver,

2194
01:02:54,030 --> 01:02:55,460
president of George L. Oliver

2195
01:02:55,460 --> 01:02:56,040
Company.

2196
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:56,540
Wow.

2197
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,800
This, even just as a stance.

2198
01:03:00,060 --> 01:03:01,210
I suppose you couldn't really

2199
01:03:01,210 --> 01:03:02,240
call that a stance.

2200
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:04,560
I'm getting fucking deja vu

2201
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,220
looking at this.

2202
01:03:06,300 --> 01:03:08,020
Have we seen a situation like

2203
01:03:08,020 --> 01:03:09,040
this before?

2204
01:03:09,100 --> 01:03:10,180
It's a powerful image.

2205
01:03:11,220 --> 01:03:12,580
And what would you call that?

2206
01:03:12,620 --> 01:03:13,420
It's a kneel.

2207
01:03:13,660 --> 01:03:14,560
It's not a stance.

2208
01:03:14,740 --> 01:03:16,250
But it's a half stance because

2209
01:03:16,250 --> 01:03:17,750
one foot is on the ground there

2210
01:03:17,750 --> 01:03:18,680
from your man.

2211
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:19,920
But he's a big fella.

2212
01:03:20,460 --> 01:03:21,600
He is a big fella.

2213
01:03:22,020 --> 01:03:23,330
He doesn't look like he'd be

2214
01:03:23,330 --> 01:03:24,280
into robots.

2215
01:03:25,260 --> 01:03:26,450
He looks like he would be, you

2216
01:03:26,450 --> 01:03:28,450
know, on the corner of a

2217
01:03:28,450 --> 01:03:29,420
fucking,

2218
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,450
like, what was it, a meat shop

2219
01:03:32,450 --> 01:03:34,480
like The Sopranos,

2220
01:03:35,220 --> 01:03:36,220
a butcher's or something.

2221
01:03:36,380 --> 01:03:37,770
in the back there, you know,

2222
01:03:37,770 --> 01:03:39,380
taking bets or fucking telling

2223
01:03:39,380 --> 01:03:39,640
lads

2224
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,100
to go and do certain jobs that

2225
01:03:41,100 --> 01:03:42,680
aren't in the world of meat.

2226
01:03:43,820 --> 01:03:45,240
But he's not.

2227
01:03:45,340 --> 01:03:47,560
He's doing work with robots.

2228
01:03:47,660 --> 01:03:48,560
And he's got one here.

2229
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:49,460
It's the Hero.

2230
01:03:52,220 --> 01:03:52,120
Distributes the Hero One robot

2231
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,940
here in Northern California.

2232
01:03:55,100 --> 01:03:56,280
And George, maybe you could...

2233
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:57,160
What does it do?

2234
01:03:57,860 --> 01:03:58,720
Get Hero to give us a basic

2235
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,900
demonstration of what it does.

2236
01:04:01,060 --> 01:04:01,280
Surely.

2237
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:01,920
Lovely.

2238
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:06,280
And he's using his middle

2239
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,090
finger to punch in the buttons

2240
01:04:08,090 --> 01:04:08,740
there.

2241
01:04:09,420 --> 01:04:11,300
Lovely numerical keypad.

2242
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,520
Very mechanical, raised buttons.

2243
01:04:15,260 --> 01:04:15,940
Ergonomic.

2244
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:16,980
Chunky.

2245
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,110
It's a real satisfying sound

2246
01:04:19,110 --> 01:04:20,040
off them.

2247
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:22,080
Hello.

2248
01:04:22,300 --> 01:04:24,230
I am the Hero's educational

2249
01:04:24,230 --> 01:04:25,020
robot.

2250
01:04:25,380 --> 01:04:28,000
I have a brain just like you do.

2251
01:04:28,260 --> 01:04:30,680
But my brain is a computer.

2252
01:04:31,340 --> 01:04:34,940
I have a brain just like you do.

2253
01:04:36,300 --> 01:04:38,350
Almost melodic in its delivery

2254
01:04:38,350 --> 01:04:39,580
as well.

2255
01:04:40,380 --> 01:04:40,940
Hello.

2256
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,560
I have a brain just like you do.

2257
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,920
Oh, I am the Hero's educational

2258
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:47,700
robot.

2259
01:04:48,060 --> 01:04:50,680
I have a brain just like you do.

2260
01:04:51,100 --> 01:04:53,380
But my brain is a computer.

2261
01:04:53,940 --> 01:04:56,210
My owner programs my computer

2262
01:04:56,210 --> 01:04:58,540
for me and I always do.

2263
01:04:59,180 --> 01:05:00,720
He's going on a bit, isn't he?

2264
01:05:00,780 --> 01:05:02,050
I wonder is Stu going to hustle

2265
01:05:02,050 --> 01:05:02,580
a robot?

2266
01:05:02,580 --> 01:05:05,070
Are we going to see the very

2267
01:05:05,070 --> 01:05:07,950
first hustle manoeuvre by Stu

2268
01:05:07,950 --> 01:05:09,660
on Not A Human?

2269
01:05:10,220 --> 01:05:11,000
I am program.

2270
01:05:11,460 --> 01:05:12,480
I am podcast.

2271
01:05:12,580 --> 01:05:14,720
I am delighted.

2272
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,050
And your man there, the mafia

2273
01:05:20,050 --> 01:05:20,660
guy.

2274
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:21,920
He's smiling.

2275
01:05:22,060 --> 01:05:22,800
He's loving this.

2276
01:05:23,660 --> 01:05:24,670
But I think Stu might be a

2277
01:05:24,670 --> 01:05:26,320
little bit reticent.

2278
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,560
To go all in on this.

2279
01:05:30,700 --> 01:05:32,550
Because he knows that there has

2280
01:05:32,550 --> 01:05:34,420
to be a payoff here.

2281
01:05:36,180 --> 01:05:38,740
People are saying Big Sam Allardyce.

2282
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:41,900
The dice is being cast.

2283
01:05:42,860 --> 01:05:44,180
The robot is here.

2284
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:44,980
He is the hero.

2285
01:05:45,220 --> 01:05:46,220
What does he even do?

2286
01:05:46,300 --> 01:05:47,680
What the fuck can this thing do?

2287
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:52,220
Dead air.

2288
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,160
What's that going to do to Stu?

2289
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:00,320
I'm not liking this.

2290
01:06:00,740 --> 01:06:01,480
Where's that going?

2291
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,280
It's aiming for Stu.

2292
01:06:07,740 --> 01:06:08,050
Why does it have a grabber on

2293
01:06:08,050 --> 01:06:09,800
the end of it?

2294
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,900
George, how much weight can

2295
01:06:11,900 --> 01:06:13,180
that arm hold?

2296
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:14,790
It can hold about eight ounces

2297
01:06:14,790 --> 01:06:16,460
extended and about a pound when

2298
01:06:16,460 --> 01:06:17,880
it's fully retracted.

2299
01:06:18,460 --> 01:06:19,790
The way your man's talking

2300
01:06:19,790 --> 01:06:21,340
doesn't sound like a robot nerd

2301
01:06:21,340 --> 01:06:21,900
at all.

2302
01:06:22,060 --> 01:06:23,250
It is like a fella who's just

2303
01:06:23,250 --> 01:06:23,940
in...

2304
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,450
Where have they got this guy

2305
01:06:27,450 --> 01:06:28,560
from?

2306
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:30,310
It can hold about eight ounces

2307
01:06:30,310 --> 01:06:32,140
extended and about a pound when

2308
01:06:32,140 --> 01:06:33,720
it's fully retracted.

2309
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:35,470
And what kind of functional use

2310
01:06:35,470 --> 01:06:37,020
could this arm perform?

2311
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:38,730
Oh, that arm could do things

2312
01:06:38,730 --> 01:06:40,310
like pick up items from one

2313
01:06:40,310 --> 01:06:41,970
assembly line and move them

2314
01:06:41,970 --> 01:06:43,240
over to another.

2315
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:46,200
Is that it?

2316
01:06:46,540 --> 01:06:47,220
George Oliver.

2317
01:06:48,220 --> 01:06:50,230
President of George Oliver

2318
01:06:50,230 --> 01:06:51,100
Company.

2319
01:06:51,620 --> 01:06:52,700
So it's just a man who had his

2320
01:06:52,700 --> 01:06:54,440
own fucking shed and he made a

2321
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:55,120
robot.

2322
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:57,160
Chris McBee, thank you very

2323
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:58,980
much for the tip there.

2324
01:07:00,060 --> 01:07:00,670
Items from one assembly line

2325
01:07:00,670 --> 01:07:02,660
and move them over to another.

2326
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,100
Which assembly line is he on

2327
01:07:04,100 --> 01:07:04,660
about?

2328
01:07:04,780 --> 01:07:06,410
It'd have to be a very low down

2329
01:07:06,410 --> 01:07:07,580
assembly line.

2330
01:07:09,660 --> 01:07:11,180
You know, it's a small book.

2331
01:07:11,180 --> 01:07:12,780
The lads are even having to

2332
01:07:12,780 --> 01:07:13,780
crouch down.

2333
01:07:14,820 --> 01:07:15,570
So I'm wondering what kind of

2334
01:07:15,570 --> 01:07:17,180
assembly line...

2335
01:07:17,980 --> 01:07:19,000
I mean, I suppose, yeah, if

2336
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,020
there's an assembly line, you

2337
01:07:20,020 --> 01:07:20,860
could give it...

2338
01:07:20,860 --> 01:07:22,460
The robot comes up in a little

2339
01:07:22,460 --> 01:07:24,200
designated robot channel.

2340
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:26,870
And I know fucking John down at

2341
01:07:26,870 --> 01:07:29,840
section B needs your ratchet.

2342
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:31,430
And then you can give the robot

2343
01:07:31,430 --> 01:07:32,810
the ratchet, but I mean, fuck

2344
01:07:32,810 --> 01:07:33,120
that.

2345
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:34,370
You just go and give John the

2346
01:07:34,370 --> 01:07:34,980
ratchet.

2347
01:07:37,980 --> 01:07:38,410
And there's dead air all over

2348
01:07:38,410 --> 01:07:40,460
the shop here.

2349
01:07:40,540 --> 01:07:41,840
This is going to be irking stew

2350
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:42,500
somewhat.

2351
01:07:42,500 --> 01:07:43,560
This arm perform.

2352
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:45,530
Oh, that arm could do things

2353
01:07:45,530 --> 01:07:47,120
like pick up...

2354
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:48,560
That arm could do things you

2355
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:49,740
wouldn't believe.

2356
01:07:50,620 --> 01:07:52,360
No use could this arm perform.

2357
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:52,360
No use could this arm perform.

2358
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:52,360
No use could this arm perform.

2359
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:52,360
No use could this arm perform.

2360
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:53,360
No use could this arm perform.

2361
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:54,710
No that arm could do things

2362
01:07:54,710 --> 01:07:56,070
like pick up items from one

2363
01:07:56,070 --> 01:07:57,500
assembly line and move them

2364
01:07:57,500 --> 01:07:58,580
over to another.

2365
01:07:58,580 --> 01:08:03,320
I can use my wrist.

2366
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:07,660
I can use my wrist.

2367
01:08:17,480 --> 01:08:18,980
Does Hero have the same normal

2368
01:08:18,980 --> 01:08:20,190
axes of movement that an

2369
01:08:20,190 --> 01:08:21,920
industrial robot might have?

2370
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:23,460
They cut away to shots.

2371
01:08:23,940 --> 01:08:24,770
Because there's fucking nothing

2372
01:08:24,770 --> 01:08:25,360
happening.

2373
01:08:25,480 --> 01:08:26,650
So they cut away to the keypad

2374
01:08:26,650 --> 01:08:27,140
again.

2375
01:08:27,420 --> 01:08:28,500
Like we want to see that.

2376
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,380
We've already seen that.

2377
01:08:31,420 --> 01:08:33,700
I can move my grip.

2378
01:08:34,340 --> 01:08:36,340
I can grip like this.

2379
01:08:37,480 --> 01:08:39,500
I can move my wrist.

2380
01:08:41,220 --> 01:08:41,680
Does Hero have the same normal

2381
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,420
axes of movement that an

2382
01:08:43,420 --> 01:08:45,840
industrial robot might have?

2383
01:08:46,100 --> 01:08:47,480
Yes, Hero has six axis of

2384
01:08:47,480 --> 01:08:48,940
motion like a class three

2385
01:08:48,940 --> 01:08:50,120
industrial robot.

2386
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,580
There goes my Hero.

2387
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,200
Watch him as he grips.

2388
01:08:57,620 --> 01:09:04,240
There goes my Hero.

2389
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,260
Look at his wrist.

2390
01:09:14,480 --> 01:09:15,480
Panda and elephant.

2391
01:09:15,480 --> 01:09:16,760
Thank you very much for the tip

2392
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:17,220
there.

2393
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:19,190
Yes, Hero has six axis of

2394
01:09:19,190 --> 01:09:21,160
motion like a class three

2395
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:22,920
industrial robot.

2396
01:09:24,460 --> 01:09:26,000
And I can move about.

2397
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,160
I can move about.

2398
01:09:29,860 --> 01:09:30,940
Little fucking look from Stu

2399
01:09:30,940 --> 01:09:31,480
there.

2400
01:09:31,540 --> 01:09:33,060
I wonder what that was.

2401
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:34,700
Was that a look of...

2402
01:09:34,700 --> 01:09:37,020
Was that a mocking glance?

2403
01:09:37,820 --> 01:09:38,920
As if to say, look at the

2404
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:40,260
fucking state of this.

2405
01:09:40,460 --> 01:09:41,940
Or was he looking to see if the

2406
01:09:41,940 --> 01:09:43,620
camera feed was picking this

2407
01:09:43,620 --> 01:09:44,100
one?

2408
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:44,920
What shot they were on?

2409
01:09:44,980 --> 01:09:46,040
Probably what shot they were on.

2410
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:47,080
Stu's a perfectionist.

2411
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:48,260
But look.

2412
01:09:48,660 --> 01:09:48,960
I mean.

2413
01:09:49,480 --> 01:09:50,820
You can tell the...

2414
01:09:50,820 --> 01:09:53,020
The quality of the resolution

2415
01:09:53,020 --> 01:09:55,660
doesn't really give it the credence

2416
01:09:55,660 --> 01:09:56,880
it deserves.

2417
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,350
But there's a raised eyebrow

2418
01:09:59,350 --> 01:10:01,450
and a bit of a cheeky sort of

2419
01:10:01,450 --> 01:10:03,680
face he's making there.

2420
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:05,490
I'm glad we got to see that

2421
01:10:05,490 --> 01:10:06,220
there.

2422
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:12,700
I think I made an excellent bet.

2423
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,040
I'm living downstream.

2424
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:15,560
What?

2425
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,460
Even George is just laughing.

2426
01:10:20,300 --> 01:10:21,000
But this is...

2427
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:21,200
I mean.

2428
01:10:21,340 --> 01:10:22,520
Why is George laughing?

2429
01:10:22,620 --> 01:10:23,720
He made the fucking thing and

2430
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:24,500
programmed it.

2431
01:10:24,540 --> 01:10:24,980
So I mean.

2432
01:10:25,180 --> 01:10:26,540
This shouldn't surprise him,

2433
01:10:26,540 --> 01:10:27,160
you know.

2434
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,780
That laughter is just probably

2435
01:10:29,780 --> 01:10:30,680
what happens.

2436
01:10:30,780 --> 01:10:31,180
You know when.

2437
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:33,410
He can sense there's a bit of

2438
01:10:33,410 --> 01:10:34,440
dead air.

2439
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:35,960
So you just kind of laugh.

2440
01:10:36,260 --> 01:10:37,080
Laugh it off.

2441
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:38,760
What does he say?

2442
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:40,700
The robot.

2443
01:10:41,980 --> 01:10:44,940
I think I made an excellent bet.

2444
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:46,260
I'm living downstream.

2445
01:10:46,260 --> 01:10:49,740
I think I made a web there.

2446
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,300
That even I can go stream.

2447
01:10:54,060 --> 01:10:55,110
Does anybody know what he's

2448
01:10:55,110 --> 01:10:56,760
been...

2449
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:57,260
What's...

2450
01:10:57,980 --> 01:11:00,760
I think I made an excellent bet.

2451
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:02,080
I'm living downstream.

2452
01:11:04,420 --> 01:11:05,400
Is he finished?

2453
01:11:05,620 --> 01:11:05,780
Hello.

2454
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:06,840
I am here.

2455
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:07,120
Okay.

2456
01:11:07,900 --> 01:11:08,740
Lovely stuff.

2457
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:10,340
That is a Hustle and Harry

2458
01:11:10,340 --> 01:11:12,460
maneuver on a fucking robot.

2459
01:11:13,420 --> 01:11:14,580
We've just seen it.

2460
01:11:14,580 --> 01:11:22,500
Thank you very much there.

2461
01:11:23,780 --> 01:11:25,480
No cheese-oid.

2462
01:11:27,300 --> 01:11:28,560
Thank you for the tip.

2463
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:29,540
No cheese-oid.

2464
01:11:29,900 --> 01:11:33,500
So we do have the very first TV

2465
01:11:33,500 --> 01:11:36,020
record...

2466
01:11:36,020 --> 01:11:39,460
video recording of Stuart hustling

2467
01:11:39,460 --> 01:11:41,800
and harrying a robot.

2468
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:44,560
Is he finished?

2469
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:47,200
Is he finished?

2470
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:47,560
Hello.

2471
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:48,640
I love you.

2472
01:11:48,700 --> 01:11:48,960
Okay.

2473
01:11:49,340 --> 01:11:50,500
He wasn't finished.

2474
01:11:50,620 --> 01:11:52,250
And poor George had to fucking

2475
01:11:52,250 --> 01:11:53,930
switch him off as he was still

2476
01:11:53,930 --> 01:11:55,000
saying stuff.

2477
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:56,720
The hero was still saying stuff.

2478
01:11:57,340 --> 01:11:58,640
And George had to fucking

2479
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,340
swallow his pride and say, yes,

2480
01:12:01,340 --> 01:12:02,680
he is finished.

2481
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:04,280
Even though your mom was still

2482
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:05,940
going, I am still doing some

2483
01:12:05,940 --> 01:12:06,580
stuff now.

2484
01:12:07,140 --> 01:12:08,010
Thank you very much there,

2485
01:12:08,010 --> 01:12:09,680
Vincent Brown, for the tip.

2486
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:11,080
Already.

2487
01:12:11,900 --> 01:12:14,140
I made an excellent pet.

2488
01:12:14,380 --> 01:12:15,820
I'm living thou strange.

2489
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:18,740
Is he finished?

2490
01:12:18,820 --> 01:12:19,180
Hello.

2491
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:20,820
I am here already.

2492
01:12:21,460 --> 01:12:22,280
He'll stop him now.

2493
01:12:22,540 --> 01:12:24,160
George, before we take his...

2494
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:24,540
Hello.

2495
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,000
I can feel hot already.

2496
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:28,800
Hello.

2497
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,020
I am here already.

2498
01:12:31,140 --> 01:12:31,980
He'll stop him now.

2499
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:33,130
George, before we take his

2500
01:12:33,130 --> 01:12:34,230
clothes off and see what's

2501
01:12:34,230 --> 01:12:35,060
inside...

2502
01:12:35,060 --> 01:12:47,680
Tonight at nine.

2503
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:51,620
...keyboard and an LED display

2504
01:12:51,620 --> 01:12:52,520
here.

2505
01:12:52,620 --> 01:12:53,340
What do you do with that?

2506
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:55,030
Yes, this is used for data

2507
01:12:55,030 --> 01:12:56,120
entry, Stu.

2508
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,150
And the LED display is to tell

2509
01:12:58,150 --> 01:13:00,280
you where your information is

2510
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:01,100
stored.

2511
01:13:01,340 --> 01:13:03,030
So you can program him through

2512
01:13:03,030 --> 01:13:04,220
this keyboard.

2513
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:04,700
Yes.

2514
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:06,040
And I see you have a kind of

2515
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:07,180
breadboard here.

2516
01:13:07,220 --> 01:13:07,900
What do you use that for?

2517
01:13:08,020 --> 01:13:08,990
Yes, that can be used by

2518
01:13:08,990 --> 01:13:10,500
students studying interfacing

2519
01:13:10,500 --> 01:13:11,180
circuits.

2520
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:12,980
Okay, let's take his panels off

2521
01:13:12,980 --> 01:13:14,510
and see if we can look inside

2522
01:13:14,510 --> 01:13:15,040
here.

2523
01:13:15,180 --> 01:13:16,540
I want to see what makes sense.

2524
01:13:16,540 --> 01:13:18,510
Because he just said a minute

2525
01:13:18,510 --> 01:13:20,710
ago, before we take his clothes

2526
01:13:20,710 --> 01:13:21,200
off,

2527
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,530
I thought he'd said pants and

2528
01:13:23,530 --> 01:13:24,760
not panels.

2529
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,010
I was thinking, why is Stu

2530
01:13:27,010 --> 01:13:30,090
continuing with this clothes

2531
01:13:30,090 --> 01:13:30,460
thing?

2532
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:33,300
Okay, let's take his panels off

2533
01:13:33,300 --> 01:13:34,620
and see if we can look inside

2534
01:13:34,620 --> 01:13:35,160
here.

2535
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:35,540
Take his panties off.

2536
01:13:35,540 --> 01:13:36,950
And see what makes him tick, if

2537
01:13:36,950 --> 01:13:38,060
that's what he does.

2538
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:41,960
Okay.

2539
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:43,040
Okay.

2540
01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:44,210
I'll help you with the back one

2541
01:13:44,210 --> 01:13:45,230
if you want to get the front

2542
01:13:45,230 --> 01:13:45,860
one there.

2543
01:13:45,860 --> 01:13:45,920
Yeah.

2544
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:46,320
The side panels come off easily.

2545
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:48,740
Okay, let's take a look at the

2546
01:13:48,740 --> 01:13:50,000
front here, George.

2547
01:13:50,100 --> 01:13:51,220
And what do we have over here?

2548
01:13:51,500 --> 01:13:52,770
Okay, this is your main circuit

2549
01:13:52,770 --> 01:13:53,540
board here.

2550
01:13:54,500 --> 01:13:56,060
George is a fucking big fella.

2551
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:57,780
And that's some stance as well.

2552
01:13:58,180 --> 01:13:59,480
And to be doing it in slacks.

2553
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:02,850
Probably in a San Francisco TV

2554
01:14:02,850 --> 01:14:03,520
studio.

2555
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:05,360
You know?

2556
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:07,410
With your microprocessor and

2557
01:14:07,410 --> 01:14:09,220
all of the various ICs that

2558
01:14:09,220 --> 01:14:11,700
interact with the other boards.

2559
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:12,830
Okay, can I spin them around

2560
01:14:12,830 --> 01:14:13,740
here while we talk?

2561
01:14:13,740 --> 01:14:13,740
Sure.

2562
01:14:14,220 --> 01:14:15,800
Now these various boards here

2563
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:17,610
are the sensor boards that

2564
01:14:17,610 --> 01:14:19,350
operate with the various

2565
01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:20,240
sensors.

2566
01:14:20,420 --> 01:14:21,990
Again, this is the main drive

2567
01:14:21,990 --> 01:14:23,080
control board.

2568
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:24,940
This one is the sonar

2569
01:14:24,940 --> 01:14:26,860
transmitter and receiver board.

2570
01:14:27,340 --> 01:14:30,570
And around here we have the sonar

2571
01:14:30,570 --> 01:14:34,540
board and the main drive board.

2572
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:36,310
And around here we have the

2573
01:14:36,310 --> 01:14:38,160
voice synthesis board.

2574
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:40,470
And one of the other sensor

2575
01:14:40,470 --> 01:14:41,880
boards here.

2576
01:14:42,380 --> 01:14:43,520
Okay, mainly you use here as a

2577
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:44,770
training robot, as an

2578
01:14:44,770 --> 01:14:46,560
educational robot, right?

2579
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:46,840
Yes.

2580
01:14:46,900 --> 01:14:48,200
He's designed to be used by the

2581
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:49,400
student in the laboratory to

2582
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:50,340
study robotics.

2583
01:14:50,340 --> 01:14:51,220
Okay, well, George, thanks so

2584
01:14:51,220 --> 01:14:51,500
much.

2585
01:14:51,500 --> 01:14:52,700
And now we'll go back to Gary.

2586
01:14:52,700 --> 01:14:53,700
Gary.

2587
01:14:54,260 --> 01:14:55,180
Yeah, Stuart joins us on the

2588
01:14:55,180 --> 01:14:55,600
set.

2589
01:14:55,700 --> 01:14:56,720
I'd like to introduce Dusty

2590
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:57,100
Rose.

2591
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:57,800
Quick ending for that.

2592
01:14:58,500 --> 01:14:59,270
Mainly you use here as a

2593
01:14:59,270 --> 01:15:00,820
training robot, as an

2594
01:15:00,820 --> 01:15:02,900
educational robot, right?

2595
01:15:02,900 --> 01:15:03,180
Yes.

2596
01:15:03,380 --> 01:15:05,160
But it's some stance as well.

2597
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:06,950
I mean, you just got to really

2598
01:15:06,950 --> 01:15:08,740
appreciate the level that they

2599
01:15:08,740 --> 01:15:10,320
went on this one as well.

2600
01:15:10,500 --> 01:15:12,410
Lads getting down on the level

2601
01:15:12,410 --> 01:15:14,490
of the robot crouching down,

2602
01:15:14,490 --> 01:15:15,920
squatting down.

2603
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:17,670
And as I said before, it can't

2604
01:15:17,670 --> 01:15:19,070
be that easy when you're

2605
01:15:19,070 --> 01:15:21,120
wearing those clothes as well.

2606
01:15:21,220 --> 01:15:22,200
You know, it's not comfortable.

2607
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,080
But they did it.

2608
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,300
And it was an immersive piece

2609
01:15:26,300 --> 01:15:27,740
of television.

2610
01:15:36,740 --> 01:15:37,960
Interlocking spurs.

2611
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,180
And look at that shoe work.

2612
01:15:43,180 --> 01:15:44,800
The shoe work is exquisite.

2613
01:15:45,940 --> 01:15:47,520
And that shoe has been buffed.

2614
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,300
You can tell, because the shine

2615
01:15:50,300 --> 01:15:52,580
and the sheen is insane.

2616
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:54,820
Designed to be used by the

2617
01:15:54,820 --> 01:15:56,430
student in the laboratory to

2618
01:15:56,430 --> 01:15:57,880
study robotics.

2619
01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:58,780
Well, George, thanks so much.

2620
01:15:58,780 --> 01:16:01,210
You can see just before he said,

2621
01:16:01,210 --> 01:16:03,120
okay, George, Stu did a

2622
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,530
maneuver with the interlocking

2623
01:16:05,530 --> 01:16:06,320
spurs.

2624
01:16:06,540 --> 01:16:07,960
Keep an eye on the hands here.

2625
01:16:08,780 --> 01:16:10,360
He got a little bit kind of,

2626
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:11,960
you know, time is of the

2627
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:12,940
essence.

2628
01:16:13,100 --> 01:16:15,030
He almost did a kind of come-to-me

2629
01:16:15,030 --> 01:16:16,540
maneuver to George.

2630
01:16:16,540 --> 01:16:18,750
As a training robot, as an

2631
01:16:18,750 --> 01:16:21,420
educational robot, right?

2632
01:16:21,420 --> 01:16:21,700
Yes.

2633
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:22,870
He's designed to be used by the

2634
01:16:22,870 --> 01:16:24,020
student in the laboratory to

2635
01:16:24,020 --> 01:16:24,920
study robotics.

2636
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:25,000
Okay.

2637
01:16:25,260 --> 01:16:26,360
Well, George, thanks so much.

2638
01:16:26,420 --> 01:16:27,580
And now we'll go back to Gary.

2639
01:16:27,860 --> 01:16:28,540
Double spur.

2640
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:29,200
Double spur.

2641
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:30,370
As Stuart joins us on the set,

2642
01:16:30,370 --> 01:16:31,450
I'd like to introduce Dusty

2643
01:16:31,450 --> 01:16:33,140
Rhodes and John Hill of Microbotics.

2644
01:16:33,340 --> 01:16:34,200
Dusty Rhodes.

2645
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:36,580
Incredible name.

2646
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:37,000
Dusty.

2647
01:16:37,060 --> 01:16:38,540
Used to be a DJ on 2FM called

2648
01:16:38,540 --> 01:16:39,480
Dusty Rhodes.

2649
01:16:39,500 --> 01:16:40,210
We have a device here that

2650
01:16:40,210 --> 01:16:41,080
looks very interesting.

2651
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:41,730
Are you going to show us about

2652
01:16:41,730 --> 01:16:42,000
that?

2653
01:16:42,340 --> 01:16:42,980
We sure will.

2654
01:16:43,380 --> 01:16:44,660
This is our TeachMover, which

2655
01:16:44,660 --> 01:16:46,060
is a developmental robot used

2656
01:16:46,060 --> 01:16:47,770
by industrial engineers to

2657
01:16:47,770 --> 01:16:48,830
develop work cells in the

2658
01:16:48,830 --> 01:16:49,240
factory.

2659
01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:50,840
Also for training engineers.

2660
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,340
Let me show you one little

2661
01:16:53,340 --> 01:16:53,980
trick.

2662
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:58,040
So his name is Guy Rhodes, but...

2663
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,170
Maybe, oh yeah, maybe fucking

2664
01:17:00,170 --> 01:17:02,370
Gary just knows him, like, as

2665
01:17:02,370 --> 01:17:02,920
Dusty.

2666
01:17:02,940 --> 01:17:03,860
Some games it can play.

2667
01:17:04,260 --> 01:17:05,540
This is the block stacking game.

2668
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:06,040
Wow.

2669
01:17:07,060 --> 01:17:08,170
That ring is something else as

2670
01:17:08,170 --> 01:17:08,800
well.

2671
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:09,660
Apologies there.

2672
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:11,450
I know that's very excruciating

2673
01:17:11,450 --> 01:17:12,040
there.

2674
01:17:12,900 --> 01:17:14,190
The pause and the rewinding and

2675
01:17:14,190 --> 01:17:15,980
all that, but...

2676
01:17:15,980 --> 01:17:17,320
There really is no other way I

2677
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:18,800
want to approach this show.

2678
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,500
So, I mean, unfortunately, it

2679
01:17:20,500 --> 01:17:21,700
is just the way it is.

2680
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,340
But that is somewhat Masonic.

2681
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:27,740
It's...

2682
01:17:27,740 --> 01:17:31,490
I've never seen anything like

2683
01:17:31,490 --> 01:17:32,280
it.

2684
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:33,840
But I was...

2685
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:35,900
My interest was initially piqued

2686
01:17:35,900 --> 01:17:36,980
by the...

2687
01:17:36,980 --> 01:17:37,940
One of the little tricks and

2688
01:17:37,940 --> 01:17:38,660
games it can play.

2689
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:39,720
The hardware.

2690
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:40,460
This is the block...

2691
01:17:40,460 --> 01:17:42,300
He's going to play a little

2692
01:17:42,300 --> 01:17:43,420
game with this.

2693
01:17:43,500 --> 01:17:44,880
The block stacking game.

2694
01:17:46,340 --> 01:17:50,860
And it will find the large

2695
01:17:50,860 --> 01:17:58,300
block and put it in the middle.

2696
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:00,970
The robot has a sensor that can

2697
01:18:00,970 --> 01:18:03,800
sense how large the device is.

2698
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:04,600
And here it says, I have the

2699
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:05,140
large block.

2700
01:18:05,220 --> 01:18:05,800
I'll put it in the middle.

2701
01:18:06,220 --> 01:18:06,620
Beautiful.

2702
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:10,140
Now it knows to go back to the

2703
01:18:10,140 --> 01:18:11,250
previous location for the

2704
01:18:11,250 --> 01:18:12,000
smaller block.

2705
01:18:14,260 --> 01:18:15,360
And put it on top.

2706
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:17,140
Put it on top.

2707
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:18,410
I'll let it go on for just a

2708
01:18:18,410 --> 01:18:19,970
moment and show what happens if

2709
01:18:19,970 --> 01:18:21,080
it finds no block.

2710
01:18:21,940 --> 01:18:22,760
Now, oftentimes, we go over and

2711
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,150
put the blocks in different

2712
01:18:24,150 --> 01:18:25,560
places and try to fool it.

2713
01:18:26,220 --> 01:18:27,270
But like a worker who's

2714
01:18:27,270 --> 01:18:28,830
confused by instructions, if it

2715
01:18:28,830 --> 01:18:30,390
looks for no block without work,

2716
01:18:30,390 --> 01:18:31,600
it goes and sits down.

2717
01:18:32,740 --> 01:18:33,770
During the setup, the block's

2718
01:18:33,770 --> 01:18:35,550
placed around in various

2719
01:18:35,550 --> 01:18:37,650
positions and I wasn't able to

2720
01:18:37,650 --> 01:18:38,660
find them.

2721
01:18:39,740 --> 01:18:41,180
I assume that's because the

2722
01:18:41,180 --> 01:18:42,880
sensing mechanism doesn't have

2723
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:44,360
any vision and so forth.

2724
01:18:45,260 --> 01:18:45,830
Is that going to be added to

2725
01:18:45,830 --> 01:18:47,180
this kind of device?

2726
01:18:47,620 --> 01:18:48,000
That's true.

2727
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:49,040
Gary's...

2728
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,390
I said it fucking 20 minutes

2729
01:18:51,390 --> 01:18:53,650
ago, but the way Gary broaches

2730
01:18:53,650 --> 01:18:56,380
an item, it's very...

2731
01:18:56,380 --> 01:18:57,320
It's very...

2732
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:58,780
What would you say?

2733
01:18:59,300 --> 01:18:59,700
Deferential.

2734
01:19:00,020 --> 01:19:01,800
Like, you know, he doesn't

2735
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:03,420
drive the show in so much as

2736
01:19:03,420 --> 01:19:05,380
like he's an enthusiast.

2737
01:19:06,500 --> 01:19:07,820
But he's not pushy at all.

2738
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:08,800
He doesn't have an ego.

2739
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,330
And again, I must say, it didn't

2740
01:19:11,330 --> 01:19:12,680
command a fee.

2741
01:19:12,780 --> 01:19:14,290
John could talk about adding a

2742
01:19:14,290 --> 01:19:14,920
vision.

2743
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:16,450
That's because the sensing

2744
01:19:16,450 --> 01:19:18,100
mechanism doesn't have any

2745
01:19:18,100 --> 01:19:19,340
vision and so forth.

2746
01:19:20,140 --> 01:19:20,810
Is that going to be added to

2747
01:19:20,810 --> 01:19:22,160
this kind of device?

2748
01:19:22,480 --> 01:19:22,980
That's true.

2749
01:19:23,100 --> 01:19:24,420
John could talk about adding a

2750
01:19:24,420 --> 01:19:25,860
vision to the workshop or the

2751
01:19:25,860 --> 01:19:26,360
robot.

2752
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:27,540
Here's John.

2753
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:29,620
Over to you, John.

2754
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,880
Well, if the robot had a camera...

2755
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:34,040
I'm just going to fix this

2756
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:34,860
fucking thing here.

2757
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:36,050
There's a big line going down

2758
01:19:36,050 --> 01:19:37,350
there, but it's to do with the

2759
01:19:37,350 --> 01:19:37,720
light.

2760
01:19:37,780 --> 01:19:38,940
I need to close the curtain and

2761
01:19:38,940 --> 01:19:40,110
then put the fucking big light

2762
01:19:40,110 --> 01:19:40,420
on.

2763
01:19:40,660 --> 01:19:41,760
Interface to it, such that the

2764
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:43,000
camera was looking down over

2765
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:46,020
the work area, the computer

2766
01:19:46,020 --> 01:19:47,740
could process the image and

2767
01:19:47,740 --> 01:19:49,270
locate the particular block and

2768
01:19:49,270 --> 01:19:50,880
direct the robot to go there.

2769
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:52,400
That would be possible.

2770
01:19:52,700 --> 01:19:53,720
And these instances, then, the

2771
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:55,020
robot could just automatically

2772
01:19:55,020 --> 01:19:55,480
grab it.

2773
01:19:55,660 --> 01:19:56,910
I know that David has worked

2774
01:19:56,910 --> 01:19:57,900
with vision some.

2775
01:19:58,200 --> 01:19:58,790
Do you have anything to add to

2776
01:19:58,790 --> 01:19:59,120
that?

2777
01:19:59,740 --> 01:20:00,960
Yeah, I agree with John.

2778
01:20:01,480 --> 01:20:02,560
You could improve this by

2779
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:04,280
adding not just vision.

2780
01:20:04,420 --> 01:20:05,570
You can have range and touch

2781
01:20:05,570 --> 01:20:06,160
sensing.

2782
01:20:06,500 --> 01:20:07,640
Not just the micro switch like

2783
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:08,560
this robot has.

2784
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,300
More an array of touch sensors.

2785
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:13,270
Also, you could add some smarts

2786
01:20:13,270 --> 01:20:14,970
into it so it knows what it is

2787
01:20:14,970 --> 01:20:15,640
doing.

2788
01:20:15,780 --> 01:20:17,420
And if it makes an error, it

2789
01:20:17,420 --> 01:20:19,020
will blow the whistle.

2790
01:20:19,420 --> 01:20:21,260
David, where are we in adding

2791
01:20:21,260 --> 01:20:22,860
smarts to robots?

2792
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:25,860
Well, we are struggling.

2793
01:20:28,420 --> 01:20:31,270
More sensors are being added to

2794
01:20:31,270 --> 01:20:33,580
robots today and they are

2795
01:20:33,580 --> 01:20:36,780
applied gradually in industry.

2796
01:20:37,420 --> 01:20:38,600
There are other applications of

2797
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,300
robots that would have to have

2798
01:20:40,300 --> 01:20:41,000
sensors.

2799
01:20:41,420 --> 01:20:42,340
These are unstructured

2800
01:20:42,340 --> 01:20:44,010
environments, such as in the

2801
01:20:44,010 --> 01:20:46,020
military or agriculture, in

2802
01:20:46,020 --> 01:20:51,600
medical institutions, etc.

2803
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:53,600
or home use, too.

2804
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:55,380
This is an area that is very

2805
01:20:55,380 --> 01:20:56,340
difficult.

2806
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:58,920
What nationality is he?

2807
01:20:59,020 --> 01:21:00,820
It's the debate that's going on.

2808
01:21:00,860 --> 01:21:02,620
Is he French or Canadian?

2809
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:07,160
Israeli, says Little John.

2810
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:07,640
Reminds us.

2811
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,100
Let's just check back on what's

2812
01:21:10,100 --> 01:21:12,400
going on there with the old

2813
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,900
bombardment that was going on.

2814
01:21:14,900 --> 01:21:16,850
The initial beginning of the

2815
01:21:16,850 --> 01:21:18,040
stream there.

2816
01:21:18,440 --> 01:21:20,800
Has it developed into anything?

2817
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,220
more or less terrifying than

2818
01:21:23,220 --> 01:21:25,100
what was being seen.

2819
01:21:25,220 --> 01:21:26,970
I mean, it wasn't really that

2820
01:21:26,970 --> 01:21:28,460
terrifying, but it was

2821
01:21:28,460 --> 01:21:29,880
definitely a step up in

2822
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:31,560
rhetoric from last year's

2823
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:32,620
bombardment,

2824
01:21:32,740 --> 01:21:34,470
which was the Iron Dome managed

2825
01:21:34,470 --> 01:21:36,300
to catch a lot of it, like, you

2826
01:21:36,300 --> 01:21:36,900
know.

2827
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:39,760
Nine.

2828
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:43,940
Nine injured strikes.

2829
01:21:43,940 --> 01:21:44,960
No question. I mean, it was

2830
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:46,100
well planned.

2831
01:21:47,580 --> 01:21:48,800
Any more footage of the...

2832
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,600
It's kicking off in Jerusalem,

2833
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:52,360
look.

2834
01:21:52,660 --> 01:21:53,340
Oh, it's Tel Aviv.

2835
01:21:53,340 --> 01:21:55,110
I think we will see various

2836
01:21:55,110 --> 01:21:56,780
steps on Iran's part.

2837
01:21:57,220 --> 01:21:58,470
Not all of them, perhaps not

2838
01:21:58,470 --> 01:22:00,320
even most of them war-like.

2839
01:22:01,740 --> 01:22:03,150
We have seen a retaliatory

2840
01:22:03,150 --> 01:22:05,340
strike from Iran.

2841
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:06,980
Iran are getting on the mic.

2842
01:22:07,220 --> 01:22:08,680
Wave after wave.

2843
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:08,750
Of the illegitimate Zionist

2844
01:22:08,750 --> 01:22:08,820
regime.

2845
01:22:08,820 --> 01:22:11,060
With Iran's air defenses mostly

2846
01:22:11,060 --> 01:22:13,140
destroyed, they carried out

2847
01:22:13,140 --> 01:22:15,320
wave after wave of attacks.

2848
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,680
Wave after wave.

2849
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:19,360
Slowly drifting.

2850
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:20,160
About the day.

2851
01:22:21,020 --> 01:22:21,690
Israel's Prime Minister

2852
01:22:21,690 --> 01:22:23,440
justified the operation as a

2853
01:22:23,440 --> 01:22:25,180
fight for his country's very

2854
01:22:25,180 --> 01:22:26,140
existence.

2855
01:22:26,140 --> 01:22:27,140
And the other day.

2856
01:22:27,140 --> 01:22:29,300
Moments ago, Israel launched

2857
01:22:29,300 --> 01:22:31,450
Operation Rising Lion, a

2858
01:22:31,450 --> 01:22:33,630
targeted military operation to

2859
01:22:33,630 --> 01:22:35,890
roll back the Iranian threat to

2860
01:22:35,890 --> 01:22:37,660
Israel's very survival.

2861
01:22:37,660 --> 01:22:39,670
This operation will continue

2862
01:22:39,670 --> 01:22:41,600
for as many days as it takes to

2863
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:43,200
remove this threat.

2864
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,750
For decades, the tyrants of Tehran

2865
01:22:45,750 --> 01:22:47,930
have brazenly, openly called

2866
01:22:47,930 --> 01:22:50,140
for Israel's destruction.

2867
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:52,220
They've backed up their genocidal

2868
01:22:52,220 --> 01:22:53,810
rhetoric with a program to

2869
01:22:53,810 --> 01:22:55,640
develop nuclear weapons.

2870
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,470
The key nuclear facility in the

2871
01:22:58,470 --> 01:23:00,310
Tants, where uranium is

2872
01:23:00,310 --> 01:23:02,420
enriched, was hit multiple

2873
01:23:02,420 --> 01:23:03,240
times.

2874
01:23:03,660 --> 01:23:04,740
What was your man's name there,

2875
01:23:04,740 --> 01:23:05,460
this fella?

2876
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:07,500
Was it David Knitson?

2877
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:18,580
But what was it, David?

2878
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:22,720
Yeah, it probably is Israeli.

2879
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:34,580
David Knitson robots.

2880
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:36,800
David Knitson.

2881
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:39,090
Development of intelligent

2882
01:23:39,090 --> 01:23:39,960
robots.

2883
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:43,570
Doesn't give you where he's

2884
01:23:43,570 --> 01:23:44,700
from.

2885
01:23:44,700 --> 01:23:51,640
He's on fucking IMDB for his

2886
01:23:51,640 --> 01:24:00,750
appearance on Computer Chronicles

2887
01:24:00,750 --> 01:24:03,500
anyway.

2888
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:06,500
He works for high-tech Israel.

2889
01:24:06,620 --> 01:24:07,380
It's a bit of a giveaway.

2890
01:24:08,460 --> 01:24:09,800
Didn't even notice that there.

2891
01:24:12,780 --> 01:24:14,280
For 15 years.

2892
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:16,680
Robotics Department at SRI

2893
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:18,400
International.

2894
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:21,000
SRI.

2895
01:24:21,480 --> 01:24:22,380
David Knitson.

2896
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:24,020
SRI.

2897
01:24:30,020 --> 01:24:31,240
He's on LinkedIn.

2898
01:24:35,660 --> 01:24:37,320
You can't fucking do it.

2899
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:37,780
You have to...

2900
01:24:37,780 --> 01:24:42,860
Israel tried to penetrate the

2901
01:24:42,860 --> 01:24:45,680
chambers deep underground.

2902
01:24:53,060 --> 01:24:49,190
Iran said that civilians,

2903
01:24:49,190 --> 01:24:53,630
including children, were killed

2904
01:24:53,630 --> 01:24:57,590
in some of the strikes and vowed

2905
01:24:57,590 --> 01:24:59,840
to retaliate.

2906
01:25:01,900 --> 01:25:03,700
This barbaric act that violated

2907
01:25:03,700 --> 01:25:05,410
all international commitments

2908
01:25:05,410 --> 01:25:07,160
confirms the criminal nature of

2909
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:08,960
the illegitimate Zionist regime

2910
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:10,620
that has based its existence on

2911
01:25:10,620 --> 01:25:12,250
occupation, aggression and

2912
01:25:12,250 --> 01:25:13,560
killing children.

2913
01:25:15,020 --> 01:25:16,050
Missile launchers in Iran were

2914
01:25:16,050 --> 01:25:17,540
also targeted.

2915
01:25:17,740 --> 01:25:18,840
But really, though, what can

2916
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:19,320
they do?

2917
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:20,760
Like, what can fucking Iran

2918
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:21,440
really do?

2919
01:25:21,780 --> 01:25:23,780
You know, they don't have the

2920
01:25:23,780 --> 01:25:25,380
weaponry power that the

2921
01:25:25,380 --> 01:25:27,400
Israelis have, you know?

2922
01:25:27,940 --> 01:25:28,260
So...

2923
01:25:28,260 --> 01:25:30,140
And they haven't nukes.

2924
01:25:32,620 --> 01:25:33,500
Uh...

2925
01:25:33,500 --> 01:25:34,720
They can't really fucking do

2926
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:35,580
much, can they?

2927
01:25:36,620 --> 01:25:38,380
Thank you very much there, Otis.

2928
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:40,520
Big shout-out to all the crazy

2929
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:43,290
little guys attending QCon in Belfast

2930
01:25:43,290 --> 01:25:44,340
tomorrow.

2931
01:25:44,780 --> 01:25:47,010
Guaranteed to be a highly Japanistic

2932
01:25:47,010 --> 01:25:47,740
affair.

2933
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:51,340
I'm hoping for many stream-related

2934
01:25:51,340 --> 01:25:54,820
cosplays, such as Sam Allardichi

2935
01:25:54,820 --> 01:25:56,560
and The Roach.

2936
01:26:00,020 --> 01:26:01,200
They just hit the Israeli War

2937
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:03,380
Ministry.

2938
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:07,080
News coming through the chat

2939
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:10,260
box on this live stream.

2940
01:26:11,260 --> 01:26:12,260
Unbelievable stuff.

2941
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:13,920
The war ministry has been hit.

2942
01:26:14,020 --> 01:26:15,360
The Israeli war ministry.

2943
01:26:15,480 --> 01:26:15,920
That's...

2944
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:17,840
That's game on, isn't it?

2945
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:19,580
That's fucking game on.

2946
01:26:20,740 --> 01:26:22,540
They can't let that lie.

2947
01:26:22,980 --> 01:26:23,260
That...

2948
01:26:23,260 --> 01:26:24,430
It has to be a big war now,

2949
01:26:24,430 --> 01:26:25,220
doesn't it?

2950
01:26:25,820 --> 01:26:26,860
I mean, the last time it was a

2951
01:26:26,860 --> 01:26:28,170
load of rockets getting

2952
01:26:28,170 --> 01:26:29,690
intercepted in the sky last

2953
01:26:29,690 --> 01:26:30,180
year,

2954
01:26:30,180 --> 01:26:30,980
I remember saying,

2955
01:26:31,220 --> 01:26:32,930
it's a load of fucking Lula

2956
01:26:32,930 --> 01:26:33,680
stuff.

2957
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:34,880
It'll all be nothing in the

2958
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:35,420
morning.

2959
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:37,310
But this looks like it could be

2960
01:26:37,310 --> 01:26:39,200
something in the morning.

2961
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:39,820
Do you know?

2962
01:26:41,420 --> 01:26:44,830
That looks like it's nothing

2963
01:26:44,830 --> 01:26:45,720
now.

2964
01:26:46,260 --> 01:26:47,720
I saw an image there in Tel Aviv

2965
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,040
an hour ago and there was bombs.

2966
01:26:50,940 --> 01:26:51,840
And now it looks fine.

2967
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,980
President Trump spoke about...

2968
01:26:54,980 --> 01:26:56,090
I think nothing's going to

2969
01:26:56,090 --> 01:26:56,580
happen.

2970
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,130
I think it's going to be a load

2971
01:26:59,130 --> 01:27:01,700
of old fucking poppycock.

2972
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:04,690
But that's not where the big

2973
01:27:04,690 --> 01:27:06,710
money would be other than on a

2974
01:27:06,710 --> 01:27:07,720
toy level.

2975
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:08,660
But you know, if you take a

2976
01:27:08,660 --> 01:27:09,720
parallel with the...

2977
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:11,380
I guess with the microcomputer...

2978
01:27:11,380 --> 01:27:12,810
...popularity of microcomputers

2979
01:27:12,810 --> 01:27:13,780
and personal computers,

2980
01:27:13,860 --> 01:27:15,090
a lot of that was a grassroots

2981
01:27:15,090 --> 01:27:15,640
effort.

2982
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:17,660
The invention of the apple, for

2983
01:27:17,660 --> 01:27:19,680
example, by Steve Wozniak was a

2984
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:21,900
technical hobbyist endeavor.

2985
01:27:21,900 --> 01:27:23,520
And it's kind of exciting to me

2986
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:24,810
to see robotics now come

2987
01:27:24,810 --> 01:27:26,170
through that grassroots

2988
01:27:26,170 --> 01:27:27,000
evolution.

2989
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:27,900
He loves it.

2990
01:27:27,940 --> 01:27:28,860
Yeah, I agree with you.

2991
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:29,600
I think it's wonderful.

2992
01:27:29,780 --> 01:27:30,120
I think...

2993
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:31,450
I love that little gesticulation

2994
01:27:31,450 --> 01:27:32,900
at the end, like kind of...

2995
01:27:33,500 --> 01:27:34,750
Like as if to say, come on, man,

2996
01:27:34,750 --> 01:27:36,360
give me something here.

2997
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:37,140
I'm right, aren't I?

2998
01:27:37,460 --> 01:27:38,690
Come through that grassroots

2999
01:27:38,690 --> 01:27:39,460
evolution.

3000
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:41,320
Yeah, I agree with you.

3001
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:42,200
I...

3002
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:42,700
I...

3003
01:27:42,700 --> 01:27:45,050
You know, I've done that many

3004
01:27:45,050 --> 01:27:46,560
times before.

3005
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:47,200
You know, when you're...

3006
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:48,520
It's a situation where a

3007
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:50,920
conversation's being had and no...

3008
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:52,170
They're not getting what you're

3009
01:27:52,170 --> 01:27:52,620
saying.

3010
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:56,360
You end up just like going...

3011
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:57,660
Come on, man.

3012
01:27:58,040 --> 01:27:58,620
I agree with you.

3013
01:27:58,700 --> 01:27:59,980
I think it's robotics now come

3014
01:27:59,980 --> 01:28:01,140
through that grassroots

3015
01:28:01,140 --> 01:28:01,860
evolution.

3016
01:28:02,700 --> 01:28:03,720
Yeah, I agree with you.

3017
01:28:03,780 --> 01:28:04,460
I think it's wonderful.

3018
01:28:04,620 --> 01:28:05,870
I think there's a good analogy

3019
01:28:05,870 --> 01:28:07,600
between computers and robots.

3020
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:08,930
Just like computers started

3021
01:28:08,930 --> 01:28:10,070
just for commercial and

3022
01:28:10,070 --> 01:28:11,480
scientific applications,

3023
01:28:11,820 --> 01:28:12,760
now it's all over our life,

3024
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:13,260
right?

3025
01:28:13,420 --> 01:28:14,230
And I think the same thing is

3026
01:28:14,230 --> 01:28:15,400
going to happen with robots.

3027
01:28:15,580 --> 01:28:16,890
And I think it's a great idea

3028
01:28:16,890 --> 01:28:18,780
that there are a lot of hobbyists

3029
01:28:18,780 --> 01:28:19,560
that are getting into it

3030
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:21,600
because we are...

3031
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:23,100
There's a new generation now

3032
01:28:23,100 --> 01:28:24,380
that would not be afraid of

3033
01:28:24,380 --> 01:28:24,940
robots,

3034
01:28:25,440 --> 01:28:27,400
that would be able to apply it

3035
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:29,840
in many areas of our life.

3036
01:28:30,580 --> 01:28:31,670
David, something like this is

3037
01:28:31,670 --> 01:28:33,060
relatively simple.

3038
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:33,680
I mean, it's an...

3039
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:34,160
Many areas.

3040
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:37,400
Little inquisitive stance, the

3041
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:38,220
thinker.

3042
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:38,620
The farlock?

3043
01:28:38,620 --> 01:28:39,680
Auguste Rodin.

3044
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:41,050
What's this little maneuver

3045
01:28:41,050 --> 01:28:41,480
here?

3046
01:28:44,820 --> 01:28:46,980
David, something like this is...

3047
01:28:46,980 --> 01:28:48,220
That's great.

3048
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:55,050
Humans are interested enough,

3049
01:28:55,050 --> 01:28:58,360
aren't they?

3050
01:28:58,420 --> 01:28:59,830
The way they fucking transfix

3051
01:28:59,830 --> 01:29:01,130
themselves into a certain

3052
01:29:01,130 --> 01:29:03,380
position in order to field a

3053
01:29:03,380 --> 01:29:04,740
question.

3054
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:05,950
But I suppose it's just the

3055
01:29:05,950 --> 01:29:07,160
body language, isn't it?

3056
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:07,660
He's not even...

3057
01:29:07,660 --> 01:29:09,010
That's a subconscious act where

3058
01:29:09,010 --> 01:29:09,840
you're just...

3059
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:10,940
He's ready to take the

3060
01:29:10,940 --> 01:29:11,960
information in.

3061
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:13,090
And in order to take the

3062
01:29:13,090 --> 01:29:14,930
information in, a pose like

3063
01:29:14,930 --> 01:29:16,260
this...

3064
01:29:16,260 --> 01:29:18,580
Helps with that, you know?

3065
01:29:19,020 --> 01:29:20,330
Your body needs to be ready for

3066
01:29:20,330 --> 01:29:21,340
the question.

3067
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:22,690
So he doesn't know what Stu's

3068
01:29:22,690 --> 01:29:23,480
going to say.

3069
01:29:23,580 --> 01:29:24,850
And Stu's one of the toughest

3070
01:29:24,850 --> 01:29:25,560
in the biz.

3071
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:27,620
Thank you very much there, Jack.

3072
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:28,880
The boy ripper.

3073
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:29,660
Thank you very much.

3074
01:29:30,620 --> 01:29:31,960
Great to see a bit of streamage.

3075
01:29:33,100 --> 01:29:33,570
I'm thinking now the Iranians

3076
01:29:33,570 --> 01:29:35,000
could do with a bit of Metal

3077
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:36,780
Gear situation themselves.

3078
01:29:36,780 --> 01:29:38,840
Look, I mean, who knows what

3079
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:40,670
kind of fucking top secret

3080
01:29:40,670 --> 01:29:42,750
black ops weapons might end up

3081
01:29:42,750 --> 01:29:45,040
rearing their ugly head in the

3082
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:48,320
event of a global thermonuclear

3083
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:49,080
war.

3084
01:29:50,380 --> 01:29:51,750
But I, for one, am very

3085
01:29:51,750 --> 01:29:54,040
interested to see the tech.

3086
01:29:54,460 --> 01:29:56,450
Be able to apply it in many

3087
01:29:56,450 --> 01:29:58,440
areas of our life.

3088
01:29:59,260 --> 01:30:00,310
David, something like this is

3089
01:30:00,310 --> 01:30:01,700
relatively simple.

3090
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:02,480
I mean, it's an arm.

3091
01:30:02,580 --> 01:30:03,660
It can pick things up and so on.

3092
01:30:03,660 --> 01:30:04,750
You talked before about not

3093
01:30:04,750 --> 01:30:05,400
only...

3094
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:06,400
Bongo McSween.

3095
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:07,240
Thank you very much.

3096
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:07,940
Look at Stu.

3097
01:30:09,380 --> 01:30:09,820
Resplendent.

3098
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:11,420
Replacing blue-collar work with

3099
01:30:11,420 --> 01:30:12,960
robots, but even white-collar

3100
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:13,440
work.

3101
01:30:13,480 --> 01:30:13,980
How do you do that?

3102
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:16,170
Well, you saw what Dusty was

3103
01:30:16,170 --> 01:30:16,940
doing.

3104
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:20,220
He was using this teaching box

3105
01:30:20,220 --> 01:30:23,180
to tell a robot what to do.

3106
01:30:23,480 --> 01:30:25,520
And if this information that he

3107
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:27,230
has in his head could be

3108
01:30:27,230 --> 01:30:29,570
transferred into an automatic

3109
01:30:29,570 --> 01:30:31,020
system, it could be done.

3110
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:33,150
Specifically, computer-aided

3111
01:30:33,150 --> 01:30:35,020
design database includes all

3112
01:30:35,020 --> 01:30:36,870
the information that is needed

3113
01:30:36,870 --> 01:30:38,640
to perform a certain job.

3114
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:41,310
Now, we can eliminate the

3115
01:30:41,310 --> 01:30:43,160
trainer that uses the teach

3116
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:45,570
pendant to move the robot and

3117
01:30:45,570 --> 01:30:47,670
tell it what to do by using

3118
01:30:47,670 --> 01:30:51,380
self-teaching and self-calibration.

3119
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:53,640
That all the information would

3120
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,930
be transferred to a computer

3121
01:30:55,930 --> 01:30:58,030
and with the sensors would tell

3122
01:30:58,030 --> 01:31:00,090
the robot where to find things

3123
01:31:00,090 --> 01:31:02,210
and calibrate itself and then

3124
01:31:02,210 --> 01:31:03,220
do the job.

3125
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:04,740
Okay, Gary.

3126
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:05,740
Well, if you and I aren't...

3127
01:31:05,740 --> 01:31:07,570
Calibrate itself and then do

3128
01:31:07,570 --> 01:31:08,300
the job.

3129
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:10,080
Do the job.

3130
01:31:10,220 --> 01:31:10,780
Okay, Gary.

3131
01:31:10,900 --> 01:31:11,790
Well, if you and I aren't

3132
01:31:11,790 --> 01:31:12,920
replaced by robots, we'll be

3133
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:13,910
here again next week for

3134
01:31:13,910 --> 01:31:15,160
another edition of the Computer

3135
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:15,940
Chronicles.

3136
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:17,940
What a great, great way to end

3137
01:31:17,940 --> 01:31:18,760
the show.

3138
01:31:19,180 --> 01:31:20,100
But how is it the end of the

3139
01:31:20,100 --> 01:31:21,040
fucking show?

3140
01:31:21,140 --> 01:31:22,740
There's still 21 minutes.

3141
01:31:24,440 --> 01:31:24,700
Huh?

3142
01:31:28,700 --> 01:31:30,020
And I love the way it goes dark

3143
01:31:30,020 --> 01:31:31,420
and they all just sit there.

3144
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:33,560
But there is one piece of the

3145
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:35,460
studio that is illuminated.

3146
01:31:36,340 --> 01:31:37,580
And that's the humble computer

3147
01:31:37,580 --> 01:31:39,610
at the desk they have there as

3148
01:31:39,610 --> 01:31:40,180
well.

3149
01:31:40,940 --> 01:31:43,210
Almost person-like with its

3150
01:31:43,210 --> 01:31:45,220
head and its mouth.

3151
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:47,970
And you have these little

3152
01:31:47,970 --> 01:31:49,760
decoration bits as well.

3153
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:52,000
The silicone shape and your San

3154
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:54,180
Francisco skyline as well.

3155
01:31:54,180 --> 01:32:23,740
Micro Focus.

3156
01:32:23,740 --> 01:32:25,780
Creators of virtual programming

3157
01:32:25,780 --> 01:32:27,720
tools or software development.

3158
01:32:28,460 --> 01:32:30,310
Is pleased to provide major

3159
01:32:30,310 --> 01:32:34,120
funding to the Computer Chronicles.

3160
01:32:34,140 --> 01:32:36,800
The story of this continuing

3161
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:38,180
evolution.

3162
01:32:44,180 --> 01:32:45,460
What's going on?

3163
01:32:46,420 --> 01:32:48,060
Where are they taking us?

3164
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:52,060
Bit of ragtime, is it?

3165
01:32:52,060 --> 01:32:56,300
Is this a bad thing for kids to

3166
01:32:56,300 --> 01:32:59,200
be playing this?

3167
01:32:59,820 --> 01:33:00,820
Take one of those, you'll be in

3168
01:33:00,820 --> 01:33:02,350
fucking Computer World for a

3169
01:33:02,350 --> 01:33:03,200
week, man.

3170
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:06,220
Jump one of these.

3171
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:08,160
Thank you very much, stinks of

3172
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:09,160
autonomous.

3173
01:33:10,780 --> 01:33:16,680
What the fuck is going on?

3174
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:19,300
Random access is made possible

3175
01:33:19,300 --> 01:33:21,260
by a grant from Byte.

3176
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:22,040
No way.

3177
01:33:22,100 --> 01:33:22,680
The Small Systems Journal.

3178
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No way was random access, the

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01:33:24,540 --> 01:33:26,660
fucking Computer World News

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01:33:26,660 --> 01:33:29,520
section, a separate entity.

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01:33:31,140 --> 01:33:31,580
Journal.

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01:33:31,980 --> 01:33:32,870
Publishers of a monthly

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01:33:32,870 --> 01:33:34,360
magazine on microcomputer

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01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,130
technology and innovative

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01:33:36,130 --> 01:33:37,710
projects in the world of

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01:33:37,710 --> 01:33:38,260
computing.

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01:33:38,620 --> 01:33:39,080
Byte.

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01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:40,840
In the random access file this

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01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:42,780
week, the TV news stories...

3190
01:33:42,780 --> 01:33:44,080
What the fuck is that?

3191
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:58,540
Nobody move, please.

3192
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:07,540
Just stay quiet.

3193
01:34:09,540 --> 01:34:09,710
...may all be about Cabbage

3194
01:34:09,710 --> 01:34:11,490
Patch dolls, but the real hot

3195
01:34:11,490 --> 01:34:14,280
Christmas gift this year is unquestionably

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01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:15,940
the low-priced home computer.

3197
01:34:16,480 --> 01:34:17,350
Analysts now say two and a half

3198
01:34:17,350 --> 01:34:19,090
million computers will be under

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01:34:19,090 --> 01:34:20,720
the Christmas tree this weekend,

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01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:22,340
replacing last year's winner,

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01:34:22,340 --> 01:34:23,600
video games, as the most

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01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:25,180
popular Christmas...

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01:34:25,180 --> 01:34:26,720
...computer games.

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01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:27,540
Game Boy.

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01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:28,000
...present.

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01:34:28,900 --> 01:34:29,440
And if industry figures are

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01:34:29,440 --> 01:34:30,900
right, that will mean over a

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01:34:30,900 --> 01:34:32,630
million computers, thrown into

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01:34:32,630 --> 01:34:34,320
the closet in just a few weeks,

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01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:35,690
saturating even more the

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01:34:35,690 --> 01:34:36,930
growing supply of used

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01:34:36,930 --> 01:34:37,780
computers.

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01:34:38,220 --> 01:34:39,470
That's leading to a fast-growing

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01:34:39,470 --> 01:34:41,050
new business, computer swap

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01:34:41,050 --> 01:34:42,820
meets and used computer stores.

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01:34:43,220 --> 01:34:43,960
Swap meet.

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01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:45,400
America, based in Palo Alto,

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01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:46,840
will be expanding to five other

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01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:48,310
cities across the country next

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01:34:48,310 --> 01:34:49,570
year, and the Interstate

3221
01:34:49,570 --> 01:34:50,950
Computer Bank, which used to

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01:34:50,950 --> 01:34:52,440
sell used computers through the

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01:34:52,440 --> 01:34:54,210
mail, has now opened up a storefront

3224
01:34:54,210 --> 01:34:55,820
operation in Mountain View.

3225
01:34:56,780 --> 01:34:57,600
Atari and Activision are hoping

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01:34:57,600 --> 01:34:59,010
to pump some new life into the

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01:34:59,010 --> 01:35:00,860
slumping video game business.

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01:35:00,980 --> 01:35:01,950
The two largest video game

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01:35:01,950 --> 01:35:02,800
suppliers...

3230
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:04,800
...handheld gaming devices...

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01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:06,800
...announced this week a joint

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01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:07,960
venture to distribute new video

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01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:09,660
games via broadcast technology.

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01:35:10,060 --> 01:35:10,960
Computer games...

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01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:12,740
...system early next year, and

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01:35:12,740 --> 01:35:13,990
they say they hope to expand

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01:35:13,990 --> 01:35:15,550
their service to include non-game

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01:35:15,550 --> 01:35:16,240
software.

3239
01:35:16,940 --> 01:35:18,620
Non-game software, lads.

3240
01:35:19,260 --> 01:35:20,240
Well, of Christmas...

3241
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:22,440
And look, he pioneered the

3242
01:35:22,440 --> 01:35:25,040
little fucking change of camera

3243
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:27,590
on the random access section of

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01:35:27,590 --> 01:35:28,580
the show.

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01:35:29,220 --> 01:35:31,810
Janelle Stelzen was, you know,

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01:35:31,810 --> 01:35:34,340
just a one-camera operator.

3247
01:35:34,340 --> 01:35:36,470
But, uh, Stu, look at him. Look,

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01:35:36,470 --> 01:35:37,680
the way he fucking...

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01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:39,100
He'll go from one to the next.

3250
01:35:39,180 --> 01:35:40,160
And that's his decision.

3251
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:41,780
You know that he made that

3252
01:35:41,780 --> 01:35:42,680
decision.

3253
01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:43,660
No one else.

3254
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:45,040
No one was going to tell him

3255
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:45,840
how to do it.

3256
01:35:46,220 --> 01:35:47,220
He was going to tell them how

3257
01:35:47,220 --> 01:35:47,900
it was done.

3258
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:48,480
Software.

3259
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:50,750
Well, if Christmas 83 belongs

3260
01:35:50,750 --> 01:35:52,660
to computers, the new year of

3261
01:35:52,660 --> 01:35:55,120
1984 may be called the year of

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01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:56,020
the mouse.

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01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:57,360
1984.

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01:35:58,580 --> 01:36:00,660
The Chinese year of the mouse,

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01:36:00,660 --> 01:36:02,400
ladies and gentlemen.

3266
01:36:02,480 --> 01:36:03,420
Wastes of skin.

3267
01:36:03,700 --> 01:36:04,700
Analysts are saying the mouse

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01:36:04,700 --> 01:36:06,000
business may grow to more than

3269
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:07,360
$10 million next year,

3270
01:36:07,540 --> 01:36:08,820
and the consensus of opinion

3271
01:36:08,820 --> 01:36:10,210
seems to be that the optical

3272
01:36:10,210 --> 01:36:11,360
mouse will replace the

3273
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:12,540
mechanical mouse.

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01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:13,970
One of the leaders in the field

3275
01:36:13,970 --> 01:36:15,530
is Mouse Systems Corporation of

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01:36:15,530 --> 01:36:16,360
Santa Clara.

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01:36:16,700 --> 01:36:18,100
They expect to more than quadruple

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01:36:18,100 --> 01:36:19,620
their business next year.

3279
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:22,100
1984 will certainly be the year

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01:36:22,100 --> 01:36:23,180
of the...

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01:36:23,180 --> 01:36:24,080
The year of the...

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01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:25,320
Good year for chips!

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01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:26,930
Thank you very much there,

3284
01:36:26,930 --> 01:36:28,620
Brent Eagle, for the tip.

3285
01:36:28,700 --> 01:36:31,020
Cannot stop chanting Jerusalem.

3286
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:31,980
You've broken me.

3287
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:33,800
It's a great fucking song, and

3288
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:35,270
I can't even fault you for

3289
01:36:35,270 --> 01:36:36,000
doing it.

3290
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:37,200
Might even do it myself.

3291
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:42,660
Jerusalem, Jerusalem, Jerusalem,

3292
01:36:42,660 --> 01:36:48,120
Jerusalem, Jerusalem, Jerusalem,

3293
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:53,800
Jerusalem, Jerusalem, Jerusalem.

3294
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:56,160
Semiconductor estimates are now

3295
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:58,280
that chip industry sales will

3296
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:01,060
grow by more than 30% next year.

3297
01:37:01,480 --> 01:37:03,260
In fact, a great year for chips.

3298
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:05,700
1984 had the best chips.

3299
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:07,660
You're having the chips.

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01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:09,580
...stay orders in November hit

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01:37:09,580 --> 01:37:11,440
an all-time high of $1 billion.

3302
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:13,240
Indeed the...

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01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:14,240
$1 billion.

3304
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:16,860
And look at that fucking...

3305
01:37:16,860 --> 01:37:18,020
He's gone from...

3306
01:37:18,020 --> 01:37:19,320
I think he's got three cameras

3307
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:20,280
on the go for this.

3308
01:37:21,180 --> 01:37:22,060
Because I haven't seen that

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01:37:22,060 --> 01:37:23,040
blue steel.

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01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:27,960
Fucking brilliant, man.

3311
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:30,120
Great year for chips.

3312
01:37:30,440 --> 01:37:31,440
And a great year for stew as

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01:37:31,440 --> 01:37:31,900
well.

3314
01:37:32,500 --> 01:37:33,140
Watch this one.

3315
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:34,660
Okay, so you go to three.

3316
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:36,940
The stock market has...

3317
01:37:36,940 --> 01:37:37,720
Bit of a skip there.

3318
01:37:37,980 --> 01:37:39,430
...in November hit an all-time

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01:37:39,430 --> 01:37:40,580
high of $1 billion.

3320
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:42,250
Looks nervous, says too close

3321
01:37:42,250 --> 01:37:42,940
he's not.

3322
01:37:42,940 --> 01:37:44,420
Indeed the stock market has

3323
01:37:44,420 --> 01:37:46,100
turned the chip companies into

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01:37:46,100 --> 01:37:47,840
their favorites this fall after

3325
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:49,580
dumping on many other high-tech

3326
01:37:49,580 --> 01:37:50,260
stocks.

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01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:51,580
As the year ends, let's take a

3328
01:37:51,580 --> 01:37:52,910
look at the year's big winners

3329
01:37:52,910 --> 01:37:53,640
and losers.

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01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:55,940
The winners were Intel selling

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01:37:55,940 --> 01:37:57,780
around $41 after hitting a low

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01:37:57,780 --> 01:37:59,120
of $17 this year.

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01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:00,140
National Semi...

3334
01:38:00,140 --> 01:38:03,280
National Semi is after you.

3335
01:38:03,340 --> 01:38:05,140
...selling at nearly $16 after...

3336
01:38:05,140 --> 01:38:07,250
Got a fucking sweet job working

3337
01:38:07,250 --> 01:38:09,160
for National Semi, man.

3338
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:11,410
Yeah, we're going to the moon

3339
01:38:11,410 --> 01:38:12,680
next Tuesday.

3340
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:15,550
Intel are fucking sweating

3341
01:38:15,550 --> 01:38:16,400
bullets.

3342
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:17,950
Because National Semi are right

3343
01:38:17,950 --> 01:38:19,230
behind them in the fucking

3344
01:38:19,230 --> 01:38:20,420
competition polls.

3345
01:38:21,420 --> 01:38:22,200
...plunging to below seven

3346
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:23,440
earlier in the year.

3347
01:38:23,900 --> 01:38:25,020
Don't get me started on those

3348
01:38:25,020 --> 01:38:26,880
fucking geeks over at Tandem.

3349
01:38:27,860 --> 01:38:28,540
And Genentech...

3350
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:31,160
Genen fuck, man.

3351
01:38:31,320 --> 01:38:32,880
It's all about the Semi, boys.

3352
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:35,020
1984 is going to be the year of

3353
01:38:35,020 --> 01:38:35,760
the Semi.

3354
01:38:36,020 --> 01:38:37,910
Other strong finishers are Tandem

3355
01:38:37,910 --> 01:38:38,940
and Genentech.

3356
01:38:39,460 --> 01:38:41,020
On the losing side are Activision

3357
01:38:41,020 --> 01:38:43,260
selling near $4 after...

3358
01:38:43,260 --> 01:38:44,880
Big losers, but eventually

3359
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:46,560
massive fucking winners.

3360
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:48,560
...nearly 13 earlier this year.

3361
01:38:48,980 --> 01:38:50,380
And Eagle down below nine after

3362
01:38:50,380 --> 01:38:52,000
hitting nearly 25.

3363
01:38:52,460 --> 01:38:53,940
Other losers were Apple...

3364
01:38:53,940 --> 01:38:55,520
Big losers, Apple.

3365
01:38:55,900 --> 01:38:56,800
Unbelievable, isn't it?

3366
01:38:58,140 --> 01:38:59,160
Dirty protest, thank you very

3367
01:38:59,160 --> 01:38:59,840
much.

3368
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:01,860
...down considerably from its

3369
01:39:01,860 --> 01:39:03,520
high and Televideo, also near

3370
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:04,500
its yearly low.

3371
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:06,580
If you're into the stock market,

3372
01:39:06,580 --> 01:39:08,140
don't throw away that computer.

3373
01:39:08,500 --> 01:39:09,790
ValueLine has announced a new

3374
01:39:09,790 --> 01:39:11,670
monthly software service called

3375
01:39:11,670 --> 01:39:12,680
ValueScreen.

3376
01:39:13,180 --> 01:39:14,850
For about $500 a year, ValueLine

3377
01:39:14,850 --> 01:39:16,420
will send you a new disc every

3378
01:39:16,420 --> 01:39:17,400
month...

3379
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:17,620
What?

3380
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:19,530
...measuring 32 factors for

3381
01:39:19,530 --> 01:39:21,210
each of some 1,600 common

3382
01:39:21,210 --> 01:39:21,780
stocks.

3383
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:23,560
What a fucking ripoff.

3384
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:25,030
You can program the discs to

3385
01:39:25,030 --> 01:39:26,700
look for certain key criteria

3386
01:39:26,700 --> 01:39:28,440
and have the computer recommend

3387
01:39:28,440 --> 01:39:29,440
transactions.

3388
01:39:30,480 --> 01:39:31,060
The Osborne Company is back,

3389
01:39:31,060 --> 01:39:32,540
though in a very...

3390
01:39:32,540 --> 01:39:33,320
Ozzy Osborne.

3391
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:34,180
...in a different form.

3392
01:39:34,300 --> 01:39:35,420
Osborne's creditors have

3393
01:39:35,420 --> 01:39:37,160
reportedly agreed to a reorganization

3394
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:38,640
under new president and CEO...

3395
01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:39,840
Back, but changed.

3396
01:39:39,860 --> 01:39:40,520
...Ronald Brown.

3397
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:42,420
This is fucking brilliant.

3398
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:44,820
This is a longer cut of...

3399
01:39:44,820 --> 01:39:47,740
...random access.

3400
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:51,000
They changed it in later series

3401
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,470
and incorporated it into the

3402
01:39:53,470 --> 01:39:55,580
main meat of the show.

3403
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:57,710
But this is like a separate

3404
01:39:57,710 --> 01:39:59,520
thing that goes on for 10

3405
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:00,340
minutes.

3406
01:40:00,420 --> 01:40:02,550
All sorts of fucking random

3407
01:40:02,550 --> 01:40:03,620
tech news.

3408
01:40:03,620 --> 01:40:04,720
...Born will get out of

3409
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:05,970
manufacturing, probably out of

3410
01:40:05,970 --> 01:40:06,880
the domestic market,

3411
01:40:07,140 --> 01:40:09,460
and will focus on its new IBM-compatible

3412
01:40:09,460 --> 01:40:10,820
executive model.

3413
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:13,860
Rumors are flying over pending

3414
01:40:13,860 --> 01:40:15,800
upgrades in the IBM PC Junior.

3415
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:17,190
...Lukewarm press has

3416
01:40:17,190 --> 01:40:18,730
reportedly sent IBM back to the

3417
01:40:18,730 --> 01:40:19,600
drawing boards.

3418
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:21,030
High on the list is an upgraded

3419
01:40:21,030 --> 01:40:22,610
keyboard after many complaints

3420
01:40:22,610 --> 01:40:23,920
about the chocolate-style

3421
01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:25,060
junior keyboard.

3422
01:40:25,180 --> 01:40:26,820
There's also talk of adapting

3423
01:40:26,820 --> 01:40:28,200
the junior to enable it to

3424
01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:29,720
handle two disc drives.

3425
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:30,990
Apple finally made some

3426
01:40:30,990 --> 01:40:32,320
progress this week in its

3427
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:33,690
battle to stop the trade in

3428
01:40:33,690 --> 01:40:35,140
fake Apple computers.

3429
01:40:35,620 --> 01:40:36,600
For a while, the problem of the

3430
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:37,960
fake apples was thought to be

3431
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:39,400
limited to Southeast Asia,

3432
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:40,550
but the phony apples have

3433
01:40:40,550 --> 01:40:41,710
started showing up right here

3434
01:40:41,710 --> 01:40:42,520
in California.

3435
01:40:43,060 --> 01:40:44,080
This week, U.S. Customs

3436
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:46,170
officials seized about 400 fake

3437
01:40:46,170 --> 01:40:46,620
apples

3438
01:40:46,620 --> 01:40:48,170
from computer dealers in San

3439
01:40:48,170 --> 01:40:50,560
Francisco, Santa Ana, and Cupertino.

3440
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:52,380
Criminal charges are pending.

3441
01:40:52,380 --> 01:40:53,360
How are you?

3442
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:54,780
We all know and use basic at

3443
01:40:54,780 --> 01:40:56,500
one time or another, but do you

3444
01:40:56,500 --> 01:40:57,760
know who wrote basic?

3445
01:40:58,080 --> 01:40:59,500
Two Dartmouth professors, John

3446
01:40:59,500 --> 01:41:00,920
Kemeny and Thomas Kurtz,

3447
01:41:01,180 --> 01:41:02,180
and they hardly made a penny

3448
01:41:02,180 --> 01:41:03,540
off one of the most widely used

3449
01:41:03,540 --> 01:41:04,300
languages.

3450
01:41:04,940 --> 01:41:05,680
Well, they're going to try

3451
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:07,200
again with a new language they

3452
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:08,100
call True Basic,

3453
01:41:08,580 --> 01:41:10,150
a supposedly universal basic

3454
01:41:10,150 --> 01:41:11,530
that will run on almost all

3455
01:41:11,530 --> 01:41:12,260
machines.

3456
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:14,430
I don't think True Basic was as

3457
01:41:14,430 --> 01:41:16,440
good as the last basic they

3458
01:41:16,440 --> 01:41:16,800
made,

3459
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:18,780
that they didn't fucking cash

3460
01:41:18,780 --> 01:41:20,640
in on Tom BoloWay, boys!

3461
01:41:21,100 --> 01:41:22,920
It's due out late next year.

3462
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:24,660
And if you're into this kind of

3463
01:41:24,660 --> 01:41:26,300
thing, you may...

3464
01:41:26,300 --> 01:41:28,500
Nobody move, please.

3465
01:41:29,100 --> 01:41:30,380
We just got a tip.

3466
01:41:32,820 --> 01:41:33,820
Stay quiet.

3467
01:41:34,480 --> 01:41:35,230
We're returning to the live

3468
01:41:35,230 --> 01:41:35,820
stream.

3469
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:37,260
Tom BoloWay, thank you very

3470
01:41:37,260 --> 01:41:37,720
much.

3471
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:38,980
How are you?

3472
01:41:39,100 --> 01:41:40,020
Thank you very much.

3473
01:41:41,020 --> 01:41:42,050
They get excited about knowing

3474
01:41:42,050 --> 01:41:43,830
that the world's record was

3475
01:41:43,830 --> 01:41:45,000
broken last week

3476
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:46,480
for factoring the largest

3477
01:41:46,480 --> 01:41:47,120
number.

3478
01:41:56,020 --> 01:41:58,300
Nobody dump miles.

3479
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:00,160
We have a super.

3480
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:03,020
We're doing some donuts.

3481
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:05,700
Just stay quiet.

3482
01:42:05,700 --> 01:42:05,740
Just stay quiet.

3483
01:42:07,900 --> 01:42:09,860
The thing you may get...

3484
01:42:09,860 --> 01:42:11,560
Just, uh, sorry about that.

3485
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:13,310
Change back to the normal voice

3486
01:42:13,310 --> 01:42:13,840
there.

3487
01:42:13,940 --> 01:42:14,780
Thank you very much.

3488
01:42:16,100 --> 01:42:17,580
Thank you very much there to,

3489
01:42:17,580 --> 01:42:18,980
uh, Tom BoloWay.

3490
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:19,740
Very, very kind of you.

3491
01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:21,900
Just, uh, I think part of the

3492
01:42:21,900 --> 01:42:23,880
news of random access here

3493
01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:26,540
is that some number has been

3494
01:42:26,540 --> 01:42:27,440
factored.

3495
01:42:27,440 --> 01:42:28,920
get excited about knowing that

3496
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:30,330
the world's record was broken

3497
01:42:30,330 --> 01:42:31,850
last week for factoring the

3498
01:42:31,850 --> 01:42:33,000
largest number.

3499
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:36,240
That's news in the tech world.

3500
01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:38,640
Ray 1 supercomputer in Albuquerque,

3501
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:40,730
New Mexico factored a 67-digit

3502
01:42:40,730 --> 01:42:42,900
number in just over 13 hours.

3503
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:44,720
The record had been a 50-digit

3504
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:45,320
number.

3505
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:47,020
There actually is a practical

3506
01:42:47,020 --> 01:42:47,900
aspect of this,

3507
01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:49,520
since many computer security

3508
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:50,800
systems are based on the

3509
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:53,010
supposed impossibility of factoring

3510
01:42:53,010 --> 01:42:54,400
numbers of that size.

3511
01:42:55,060 --> 01:42:55,960
Well, we often hear that one of

3512
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:57,390
the wonderful things about

3513
01:42:57,390 --> 01:42:58,420
computers on the job

3514
01:42:58,420 --> 01:42:59,720
is that they never call in sick.

3515
01:43:00,020 --> 01:43:01,230
Well, one computer did this

3516
01:43:01,230 --> 01:43:02,260
week in Sacramento.

3517
01:43:02,580 --> 01:43:04,030
After being shot at by two

3518
01:43:04,030 --> 01:43:04,820
teenagers,

3519
01:43:05,180 --> 01:43:06,250
the computer kept attendance

3520
01:43:06,250 --> 01:43:07,610
records at a Sacramento high

3521
01:43:07,610 --> 01:43:08,180
school.

3522
01:43:08,660 --> 01:43:09,720
I guess the kids had cut too

3523
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:10,520
many classes.

3524
01:43:11,700 --> 01:43:13,060
No, no footage of that.

3525
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:14,410
No interviews or anything like

3526
01:43:14,410 --> 01:43:14,800
that.

3527
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:16,880
Just a casual story about a

3528
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:17,640
robot.

3529
01:43:18,780 --> 01:43:19,930
Was it a robot that was open

3530
01:43:19,930 --> 01:43:20,700
fire?

3531
01:43:21,020 --> 01:43:23,040
Like, some teenagers shot at it.

3532
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:25,020
I just want to see that again.

3533
01:43:25,100 --> 01:43:25,280
Sorry.

3534
01:43:25,860 --> 01:43:26,900
Because Stu's face there, a bit

3535
01:43:26,900 --> 01:43:28,580
of a pained expression on Stu.

3536
01:43:28,580 --> 01:43:31,760
It's a rarity.

3537
01:43:32,860 --> 01:43:34,510
Practical aspect of this, since

3538
01:43:34,510 --> 01:43:36,200
many computer security systems

3539
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:37,610
are based on the supposed

3540
01:43:37,610 --> 01:43:39,330
impossibility of factoring

3541
01:43:39,330 --> 01:43:40,660
numbers of that size.

3542
01:43:40,740 --> 01:43:41,340
Did you see that again?

3543
01:43:41,500 --> 01:43:42,640
Well, we often hear that one of

3544
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:43,910
the wonderful things about

3545
01:43:43,910 --> 01:43:44,740
computers on the job

3546
01:43:44,740 --> 01:43:46,020
is that they never call in sick.

3547
01:43:46,340 --> 01:43:47,440
Well, one computer did this

3548
01:43:47,440 --> 01:43:48,600
week in Sacramento.

3549
01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:50,210
After being shot at by two

3550
01:43:50,210 --> 01:43:51,120
teenagers,

3551
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:52,570
the computer kept attendance

3552
01:43:52,570 --> 01:43:53,910
records at a Sacramento high

3553
01:43:53,910 --> 01:43:54,480
school.

3554
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:56,030
I guess the kids had cut too

3555
01:43:56,030 --> 01:43:56,880
many classes.

3556
01:43:57,400 --> 01:43:58,140
That's a lovely joke.

3557
01:43:58,140 --> 01:43:59,590
And a robot testified this week

3558
01:43:59,590 --> 01:44:00,320
at a...

3559
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:02,290
A robot testified at a fucking

3560
01:44:02,290 --> 01:44:02,960
trial.

3561
01:44:03,100 --> 01:44:04,100
A murder trial, maybe.

3562
01:44:04,180 --> 01:44:05,340
Casino control commission

3563
01:44:05,340 --> 01:44:06,680
hearing in Atlantic City.

3564
01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:08,540
Kind of crazy stuff was going

3565
01:44:08,540 --> 01:44:10,760
on in America in 1983.

3566
01:44:11,380 --> 01:44:12,580
A casino there wants to use the

3567
01:44:12,580 --> 01:44:14,280
robot on the gambling floor

3568
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:15,390
to promote its entertainment

3569
01:44:15,390 --> 01:44:15,760
shows.

3570
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:17,450
The robot said it was only one

3571
01:44:17,450 --> 01:44:18,220
year old.

3572
01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:19,680
How could the robot fucking

3573
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:20,700
have a conversation?

3574
01:44:20,700 --> 01:44:22,700
How can it reason?

3575
01:44:22,700 --> 01:44:23,420
How can it reason?

3576
01:44:23,420 --> 01:44:25,450
I mean, we've only got to that

3577
01:44:25,450 --> 01:44:27,480
level now where the fucking AI

3578
01:44:27,480 --> 01:44:28,560
can reason.

3579
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:30,630
How could that have happened in

3580
01:44:30,630 --> 01:44:31,840
1983?

3581
01:44:32,060 --> 01:44:33,360
The commission said the law

3582
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:34,820
prohibits minors from being on

3583
01:44:34,820 --> 01:44:35,960
the gambling floor.

3584
01:44:36,440 --> 01:44:37,660
Well, that's clearly a...

3585
01:44:37,660 --> 01:44:38,940
Was that another joke as well

3586
01:44:38,940 --> 01:44:39,900
that I've missed?

3587
01:44:40,020 --> 01:44:41,000
...cut too many classes.

3588
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:42,990
And a robot testified this week

3589
01:44:42,990 --> 01:44:45,030
at a casino control commission

3590
01:44:45,030 --> 01:44:46,900
hearing in Atlantic City.

3591
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:48,320
A casino there wants to use the

3592
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:49,750
robot on the gambling floor to

3593
01:44:49,750 --> 01:44:51,620
promote its entertainment shows.

3594
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:53,380
The robot said it was only one

3595
01:44:53,380 --> 01:44:54,080
year old.

3596
01:44:54,380 --> 01:44:55,590
The commission said the law

3597
01:44:55,590 --> 01:44:57,080
prohibits minors from being on

3598
01:44:57,080 --> 01:44:58,340
the gambling floor.

3599
01:44:59,100 --> 01:44:59,660
Well, that's...

3600
01:44:59,660 --> 01:45:02,110
Did the robot actually take the

3601
01:45:02,110 --> 01:45:04,020
stand in a court of law in

3602
01:45:04,020 --> 01:45:05,040
America?

3603
01:45:06,620 --> 01:45:07,160
Like, what do I know about

3604
01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:08,960
robots in America?

3605
01:45:09,540 --> 01:45:09,820
Zero.

3606
01:45:10,440 --> 01:45:10,800
Zero.

3607
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:12,840
But who's to say that robot was

3608
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:14,180
contradicting?

3609
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:15,860
The casino wasn't open yet.

3610
01:45:16,260 --> 01:45:17,590
But, I mean, maybe it was the

3611
01:45:17,590 --> 01:45:19,210
owner of the robot, the maker

3612
01:45:19,210 --> 01:45:20,240
of the robot.

3613
01:45:21,020 --> 01:45:22,870
But the way Stu is presenting

3614
01:45:22,870 --> 01:45:25,020
the story is that, you know,

3615
01:45:25,020 --> 01:45:26,760
you have the idea of a robot in

3616
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:28,460
the dock, so to speak,

3617
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:30,570
saying, you know, I can't work,

3618
01:45:30,570 --> 01:45:32,160
I'm only a child robot.

3619
01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:34,820
A lot of questions unanswered.

3620
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:36,470
And I just think, it feels as

3621
01:45:36,470 --> 01:45:38,280
though maybe Random Access,

3622
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:39,650
I was singing its praises for

3623
01:45:39,650 --> 01:45:40,970
having a separate entity,

3624
01:45:40,970 --> 01:45:41,920
Random Access.

3625
01:45:42,140 --> 01:45:43,840
But was this just Stu's kind of

3626
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:45,940
playtime section where he could

3627
01:45:45,940 --> 01:45:48,120
have a few jokes about stuff?

3628
01:45:48,140 --> 01:45:48,860
I'm not sure.

3629
01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:50,650
That's clearly enough from this

3630
01:45:50,650 --> 01:45:52,000
week's Random Access file.

3631
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:53,020
We'll be off next week due to

3632
01:45:53,020 --> 01:45:54,220
the holidays, but we'll see you

3633
01:45:54,220 --> 01:45:54,800
again...

3634
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:55,960
It's Christmas, so...

3635
01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:57,380
...and next year, immediately

3636
01:45:57,380 --> 01:45:58,860
following the Computer Chronicles.

3637
01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:00,120
I'm Stuart Shiffey.

3638
01:46:00,380 --> 01:46:00,860
Love that.

3639
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:02,260
I love when people say, see you

3640
01:46:02,260 --> 01:46:03,460
next year, and when the next

3641
01:46:03,460 --> 01:46:04,610
year is, you know, in a few

3642
01:46:04,610 --> 01:46:05,040
days.

3643
01:46:05,140 --> 01:46:06,670
I love it even more when it's

3644
01:46:06,670 --> 01:46:08,290
Stu saying that they're going

3645
01:46:08,290 --> 01:46:10,290
to be straight back, no fucking

3646
01:46:10,290 --> 01:46:13,140
messing around, no lazy bastardness.

3647
01:46:13,140 --> 01:46:14,850
And this side of town, we're

3648
01:46:14,850 --> 01:46:16,590
going straight back into the

3649
01:46:16,590 --> 01:46:17,990
Computer Chronicles as soon as

3650
01:46:17,990 --> 01:46:19,200
the new year hits.

3651
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:22,170
access is made possible by a

3652
01:46:22,170 --> 01:46:22,560
grant

3653
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:24,380
from Byte, the Small Systems

3654
01:46:24,380 --> 01:46:24,780
Journal,

3655
01:46:25,220 --> 01:46:26,180
publishers of a monthly

3656
01:46:26,180 --> 01:46:26,680
magazine

3657
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:28,240
on microcomputer technology

3658
01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:30,520
and innovative projects in the

3659
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:31,440
world of computing.

3660
01:46:33,500 --> 01:46:34,640
And nothing

3661
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:36,060
there on the end of that.

3662
01:46:36,820 --> 01:46:37,990
For another absolutely

3663
01:46:37,990 --> 01:46:38,880
fantastic

3664
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:40,500
episode, which has to be

3665
01:46:40,500 --> 01:46:41,700
ticked off on our

3666
01:46:41,700 --> 01:46:44,200
thing, the synopsis, of course,

3667
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:46,040
robotic hardware and software

3668
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:46,520
and

3669
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:48,840
robotics-based applications.

3670
01:46:49,100 --> 01:46:50,260
Click, watched,

3671
01:46:50,620 --> 01:46:52,560
done. You just don't

3672
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:54,600
get this sort of crack anywhere

3673
01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:55,960
else. Obviously, you do have

3674
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:56,160
the

3675
01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:58,360
Kranz Tracker 5000, another

3676
01:46:58,360 --> 01:46:58,740
great

3677
01:46:58,740 --> 01:47:00,540
site. It's just that I've been

3678
01:47:00,540 --> 01:47:02,400
logged in to the

3679
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:03,100
Dara site

3680
01:47:03,100 --> 01:47:05,740
for some time.

3681
01:47:07,180 --> 01:47:07,620
Twisted!

3682
01:47:08,180 --> 01:47:10,120
I'm Stuart Shafé. Twisted!

3683
01:47:10,480 --> 01:47:12,040
I'm Stuart Shafé. Twisted!

3684
01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:14,460
I'm Stuart Shafé. Look at this.

3685
01:47:15,380 --> 01:47:16,520
I mean, look at this.

3686
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:18,820
We've even got little bars

3687
01:47:18,820 --> 01:47:21,020
like status completion bars of

3688
01:47:21,020 --> 01:47:21,420
each

3689
01:47:21,420 --> 01:47:24,720
of each season or

3690
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:26,360
series, whatever way you want

3691
01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:26,720
to skin

3692
01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:27,340
that apple.

3693
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:30,460
And I think Dara has been

3694
01:47:30,460 --> 01:47:32,800
toiling away,

3695
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:34,960
should I say, and turning the

3696
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:35,360
screw,

3697
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:37,320
so to speak, and making

3698
01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:39,590
little adjustments here and

3699
01:47:39,590 --> 01:47:39,940
there

3700
01:47:39,940 --> 01:47:41,440
to his site.

3701
01:47:42,440 --> 01:47:44,380
I mean, when I click on this

3702
01:47:44,380 --> 01:47:44,740
now

3703
01:47:44,740 --> 01:47:46,040
and I look for episodes,

3704
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:48,140
not only the ones we've watched

3705
01:47:48,140 --> 01:47:48,520
ticked,

3706
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:49,780
but they're greyed out,

3707
01:47:50,340 --> 01:47:51,120
which is brilliant.

3708
01:47:51,340 --> 01:47:52,510
And the ones that we haven't

3709
01:47:52,510 --> 01:47:52,800
seen

3710
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:55,360
pop right out of the press,

3711
01:47:56,180 --> 01:47:57,740
ready to fucking watch.

3712
01:47:57,840 --> 01:47:58,760
And you've all these lovely

3713
01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:00,700
thumbnails as well,

3714
01:48:00,780 --> 01:48:02,120
and you have Frank Sordello,

3715
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:04,680
who looks like Don Revy,

3716
01:48:04,900 --> 01:48:07,180
and he's the vice president

3717
01:48:07,180 --> 01:48:08,300
of Memorex.

3718
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:11,800
Just some great faces.

3719
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:15,300
Some fantastic faces of the 80s.

3720
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:16,920
Ergonomics.

3721
01:48:17,580 --> 01:48:18,780
Software utilities.

3722
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:19,460
That guy.

3723
01:48:19,660 --> 01:48:20,460
We've seen him.

3724
01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:23,900
Almost slightly Robin Williams-esque

3725
01:48:23,900 --> 01:48:24,940
in a way, but not.

3726
01:48:28,180 --> 01:48:29,160
Brilliant stuff.

3727
01:48:30,100 --> 01:48:31,320
And Frank McCourt.

3728
01:48:31,500 --> 01:48:32,540
Thank you very much there.

3729
01:48:32,580 --> 01:48:34,060
You've censored me before, Pat.

3730
01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:35,430
He won't fucking censor me

3731
01:48:35,430 --> 01:48:35,960
again.

3732
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:36,780
Vincent Brown,

3733
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:38,510
thank you very much for your

3734
01:48:38,510 --> 01:48:39,060
tip as well.

3735
01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:39,760
Stuart Shaffey,

3736
01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:41,460
PCTV promo video.

3737
01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:42,060
I'm telling you,

3738
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:42,940
you won't be disappointed.

3739
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:44,080
Okay, okay, okay.

3740
01:48:44,140 --> 01:48:44,740
Let's have a look.

3741
01:48:45,380 --> 01:48:47,730
Quick update into what's going

3742
01:48:47,730 --> 01:48:47,900
on

3743
01:48:47,900 --> 01:48:48,800
over there.

3744
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:51,150
And we're at the UN Security

3745
01:48:51,150 --> 01:48:52,220
Council.

3746
01:48:52,220 --> 01:48:59,530
Tell you what the UN Security

3747
01:48:59,530 --> 01:49:01,700
Council

3748
01:49:01,700 --> 01:49:02,380
is good for.

3749
01:49:03,020 --> 01:49:03,940
Fuck off.

3750
01:49:04,780 --> 01:49:05,880
Because I got really into

3751
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:07,300
the UN Security Council

3752
01:49:07,300 --> 01:49:08,400
a few years ago

3753
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:09,720
when the war was kicking off.

3754
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:11,890
And the way it was presented to

3755
01:49:11,890 --> 01:49:12,100
us

3756
01:49:12,100 --> 01:49:12,460
was like,

3757
01:49:13,020 --> 01:49:13,660
oh man,

3758
01:49:13,740 --> 01:49:15,060
the fucking UN Security Council

3759
01:49:15,060 --> 01:49:16,180
are about to meet now.

3760
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:17,020
We're going live.

3761
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:18,900
And I was watching it thinking,

3762
01:49:18,900 --> 01:49:20,640
wow, I'm one of the few people

3763
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:21,700
watching the live stream.

3764
01:49:21,700 --> 01:49:22,980
people are missing out.

3765
01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:24,280
Stuff's going to happen now.

3766
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:25,640
And nothing happened.

3767
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:27,160
It's just lads talking, right?

3768
01:49:27,620 --> 01:49:28,740
And then nothing happens.

3769
01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:31,340
Nothing happens at all.

3770
01:49:31,420 --> 01:49:32,300
And it all goes down

3771
01:49:32,300 --> 01:49:33,500
inside this massive,

3772
01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:36,240
luxurious building.

3773
01:49:36,480 --> 01:49:37,580
You know, the hallways,

3774
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:40,160
plush carpets,

3775
01:49:40,520 --> 01:49:42,620
art everywhere on the walls.

3776
01:49:44,300 --> 01:49:45,480
Unbelievable architecture.

3777
01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:47,820
And then just like loads of

3778
01:49:47,820 --> 01:49:49,200
people talk and shop.

3779
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:50,700
Nothing really.

3780
01:49:51,300 --> 01:49:52,780
becoming anything of it,

3781
01:49:52,860 --> 01:49:53,080
you know.

3782
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:56,100
So I think maybe having played

3783
01:49:56,100 --> 01:49:57,570
Metal Gear Solid 2 the other

3784
01:49:57,570 --> 01:49:57,740
day

3785
01:49:57,740 --> 01:49:58,940
and then having all that

3786
01:49:58,940 --> 01:50:00,920
lore dumped about the way

3787
01:50:00,920 --> 01:50:02,940
all this is just a bit of an

3788
01:50:02,940 --> 01:50:03,580
old show.

3789
01:50:04,020 --> 01:50:04,480
But I mean,

3790
01:50:04,500 --> 01:50:05,880
you can be cynical and say that.

3791
01:50:06,020 --> 01:50:07,160
Then obviously you have to

3792
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:07,420
cater

3793
01:50:07,420 --> 01:50:08,640
for people who are like,

3794
01:50:08,720 --> 01:50:09,300
yeah, but I mean,

3795
01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:10,240
at least it's something,

3796
01:50:10,380 --> 01:50:10,540
you know,

3797
01:50:10,580 --> 01:50:11,720
we have to have something.

3798
01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:13,520
At least something's being said

3799
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:14,000
and done.

3800
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:15,180
And it makes a case

3801
01:50:15,180 --> 01:50:15,980
and it makes a statement

3802
01:50:15,980 --> 01:50:17,220
and it sends a message.

3803
01:50:17,580 --> 01:50:18,690
But who does it send a message

3804
01:50:18,690 --> 01:50:19,420
to really?

3805
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:21,080
Is it just us?

3806
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:22,420
Look at the,

3807
01:50:22,420 --> 01:50:23,320
Madam President,

3808
01:50:23,540 --> 01:50:24,780
the blacks have been crushed on

3809
01:50:24,780 --> 01:50:25,500
that hair.

3810
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:27,620
It really is a dark,

3811
01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:28,840
dark situation.

3812
01:50:29,080 --> 01:50:29,720
And fair play to him

3813
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:30,640
for having such

3814
01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:33,180
a fucking jet,

3815
01:50:33,420 --> 01:50:33,860
black,

3816
01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:35,080
dark mane

3817
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:36,960
at that age,

3818
01:50:37,020 --> 01:50:38,000
whatever age he is.

3819
01:50:38,140 --> 01:50:39,560
You cannot see even a hint

3820
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:41,100
or suggestion of grey.

3821
01:50:42,140 --> 01:50:42,720
It's fantastic.

3822
01:50:43,240 --> 01:50:43,580
I wonder,

3823
01:50:43,700 --> 01:50:46,120
is that maintenance and upkeep?

3824
01:50:47,220 --> 01:50:48,020
And if it is,

3825
01:50:48,060 --> 01:50:50,560
is it a pain in the arse?

3826
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:51,160
You know?

3827
01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:53,420
Just extra shit you have to be

3828
01:50:53,420 --> 01:50:53,760
doing.

3829
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:10,400
I mean,

3830
01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:12,360
it boggles my fucking mind

3831
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:13,380
the way the Yanks

3832
01:51:13,380 --> 01:51:14,560
host this

3833
01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:15,700
and make it,

3834
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:16,160
you know,

3835
01:51:16,240 --> 01:51:18,120
they provide the arena

3836
01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:19,080
and the space

3837
01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:21,280
for this shop talk

3838
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:21,840
to happen.

3839
01:51:22,140 --> 01:51:22,840
But then,

3840
01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:25,180
and most of the talk then

3841
01:51:25,180 --> 01:51:26,700
is like on the good side of,

3842
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:27,770
it's all for the good side of

3843
01:51:27,770 --> 01:51:28,320
history.

3844
01:51:28,420 --> 01:51:29,080
A lot of people just,

3845
01:51:29,180 --> 01:51:29,420
you know,

3846
01:51:29,500 --> 01:51:30,340
saying the things

3847
01:51:30,340 --> 01:51:31,180
that need to be said.

3848
01:51:31,580 --> 01:51:31,960
But then,

3849
01:51:32,580 --> 01:51:33,440
it's the Yanks then

3850
01:51:33,440 --> 01:51:34,140
that fucking

3851
01:51:34,140 --> 01:51:36,800
provide and cater to

3852
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:38,140
some of the,

3853
01:51:38,140 --> 01:51:40,220
the enemies

3854
01:51:40,220 --> 01:51:41,140
that they're on about

3855
01:51:41,140 --> 01:51:41,560
in this,

3856
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:41,820
you know?

3857
01:51:42,500 --> 01:51:43,520
It's a bizarre,

3858
01:51:43,860 --> 01:51:45,620
bizarre scenario.

3859
01:51:46,260 --> 01:51:46,940
And again,

3860
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:48,580
making beer salad too

3861
01:51:48,580 --> 01:51:49,880
because of the fucking

3862
01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:51,120
Sons of Liberty.

3863
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:54,240
It all goes back to it.

3864
01:51:54,380 --> 01:51:55,120
The Patriots.

3865
01:51:55,820 --> 01:51:56,640
Varney Teabag,

3866
01:51:56,700 --> 01:51:57,640
thank you very much there

3867
01:51:57,640 --> 01:51:58,060
for the tip.

3868
01:51:58,060 --> 01:52:14,920
It's Liddles.

3869
01:52:16,260 --> 01:52:16,840
Or leaders.

3870
01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:24,960
And this is Danny Dannen

3871
01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:26,920
from Israel.

3872
01:52:28,060 --> 01:52:29,320
IRJC commanders

3873
01:52:29,320 --> 01:52:30,500
have vowed to,

3874
01:52:30,860 --> 01:52:33,020
open the gates of hell

3875
01:52:33,020 --> 01:52:33,980
on Israel.

3876
01:52:36,980 --> 01:52:38,300
They love,

3877
01:52:38,500 --> 01:52:39,800
the Israelis love

3878
01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:42,540
fucking having props

3879
01:52:42,540 --> 01:52:43,760
and pictures and stuff.

3880
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:44,320
Picture

3881
01:52:44,320 --> 01:52:46,200
from the main square

3882
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:46,880
in Tehran.

3883
01:52:49,140 --> 01:52:50,580
The streets of Tehran

3884
01:52:50,580 --> 01:52:51,760
display a countdown.

3885
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:53,160
Imagine him having a walk

3886
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:54,120
around the corridors

3887
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:55,520
of the UN with that.

3888
01:52:56,340 --> 01:52:56,640
And like,

3889
01:52:56,700 --> 01:52:57,800
some people might see it.

3890
01:52:57,840 --> 01:52:58,060
Maybe,

3891
01:52:58,280 --> 01:52:59,520
wonder does he have a sheath

3892
01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:00,660
or a cover over it?

3893
01:53:01,980 --> 01:53:02,160
But,

3894
01:53:02,300 --> 01:53:04,360
the Netanyahu pictures

3895
01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:05,260
that he had

3896
01:53:05,260 --> 01:53:07,420
during the

3897
01:53:07,420 --> 01:53:08,920
General Assembly,

3898
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:10,160
I think he's done it

3899
01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:10,720
a few times,

3900
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:11,560
but he always has

3901
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:12,520
shitty kind of

3902
01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:12,900
fucking,

3903
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:14,620
like,

3904
01:53:15,340 --> 01:53:16,980
illustrations on boards

3905
01:53:16,980 --> 01:53:17,380
and stuff

3906
01:53:17,380 --> 01:53:18,260
that he brings out

3907
01:53:18,260 --> 01:53:18,840
as a prop.

3908
01:53:19,260 --> 01:53:20,820
And it really looks cheap,

3909
01:53:21,020 --> 01:53:21,320
you know,

3910
01:53:21,380 --> 01:53:21,760
it really,

3911
01:53:22,180 --> 01:53:23,140
it cheapens

3912
01:53:23,140 --> 01:53:24,100
the message

3913
01:53:24,100 --> 01:53:24,700
that they're trying

3914
01:53:24,700 --> 01:53:25,500
to get across.

3915
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:26,400
Clock.

3916
01:53:27,580 --> 01:53:28,360
At the time

3917
01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:30,440
of the photo,

3918
01:53:30,540 --> 01:53:31,460
you can see it in Arabic,

3919
01:53:32,420 --> 01:53:32,980
it was at

3920
01:53:32,980 --> 01:53:35,660
8,411 days.

3921
01:53:36,860 --> 01:53:37,940
It is tracking

3922
01:53:37,940 --> 01:53:39,740
the regime's

3923
01:53:39,740 --> 01:53:40,700
planned timeline,

3924
01:53:40,700 --> 01:53:42,740
for Israel's destruction,

3925
01:53:43,740 --> 01:53:44,840
paid by the government,

3926
01:53:45,740 --> 01:53:46,860
putting it in the main

3927
01:53:46,860 --> 01:53:47,840
squares in Tehran.

3928
01:53:50,460 --> 01:53:51,300
These threats

3929
01:53:51,300 --> 01:53:52,500
have been made

3930
01:53:52,500 --> 01:53:54,900
on a near-daily basis.

3931
01:53:56,260 --> 01:53:57,080
Never again

3932
01:53:57,080 --> 01:53:59,100
will we dismiss

3933
01:53:59,100 --> 01:54:00,420
such threats.

3934
01:54:04,140 --> 01:54:05,200
Paid by the

3935
01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:06,680
Jim's planned timeline

3936
01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:08,720
for Israel's destruction,

3937
01:54:09,740 --> 01:54:10,380
paid by the

3938
01:54:10,380 --> 01:54:11,920
How you getting on?

3939
01:54:12,980 --> 01:54:13,560
Yeah, I did,

3940
01:54:13,700 --> 01:54:14,560
I got an offer

3941
01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:16,140
from some internet company

3942
01:54:16,140 --> 01:54:17,400
to do a bit of advertising,

3943
01:54:17,720 --> 01:54:18,780
and I think it's going

3944
01:54:18,780 --> 01:54:19,480
really well.

3945
01:54:19,480 --> 01:54:20,000
Government,

3946
01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:22,140
putting it in the main

3947
01:54:22,140 --> 01:54:23,140
squares in Tehran.

3948
01:54:24,340 --> 01:54:27,020
For too long,

3949
01:54:27,420 --> 01:54:29,000
the world convinced

3950
01:54:29,000 --> 01:54:29,000
the world convinced

3951
01:54:29,000 --> 01:54:30,080
itself that these

3952
01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:31,220
were just words.

3953
01:54:31,300 --> 01:54:32,680
Danone probiotic.

3954
01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:33,780
The societal slogans

3955
01:54:33,780 --> 01:54:34,480
and threats

3956
01:54:34,480 --> 01:54:35,520
to erase us.

3957
01:54:35,820 --> 01:54:36,660
Thank you very much.

3958
01:54:36,900 --> 01:54:38,340
Danone probiotic.

3959
01:54:38,420 --> 01:54:38,940
Eat it up.

3960
01:54:39,020 --> 01:54:39,600
It's good for you.

3961
01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:40,700
Don't worry about that

3962
01:54:40,700 --> 01:54:41,540
other stuff.

3963
01:54:41,540 --> 01:54:44,380
We know our enemies.

3964
01:54:45,340 --> 01:54:46,880
We know their ideology.

3965
01:54:48,220 --> 01:54:48,960
We waited

3966
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:51,040
while Iran developed

3967
01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:53,320
trigger mechanisms,

3968
01:54:54,380 --> 01:54:55,600
detonation systems,

3969
01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:57,920
and plans for warheads.

3970
01:54:57,920 --> 01:54:59,900
There was a lot of optimism

3971
01:54:59,900 --> 01:55:00,380
there

3972
01:55:00,380 --> 01:55:02,240
with robots in 1983,

3973
01:55:03,240 --> 01:55:06,200
and it just goes back to that,

3974
01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:06,800
but I mean,

3975
01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:07,240
obviously,

3976
01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:08,920
Sky there pivoting

3977
01:55:08,920 --> 01:55:09,480
to the fucking

3978
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:10,300
Security Council,

3979
01:55:10,760 --> 01:55:11,640
that's when you know

3980
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:12,560
nothing's happening.

3981
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:16,440
when the news live feeds go,

3982
01:55:16,780 --> 01:55:17,900
and now over to

3983
01:55:17,900 --> 01:55:18,980
the Security Council,

3984
01:55:19,420 --> 01:55:20,060
that's when you know

3985
01:55:20,060 --> 01:55:22,000
the real juice

3986
01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:23,540
has left the building.

3987
01:55:24,180 --> 01:55:25,300
All the important stuff

3988
01:55:25,300 --> 01:55:26,040
has already happened.

3989
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:27,780
The next fucking 24 hours

3990
01:55:27,780 --> 01:55:28,680
probably just chat.

3991
01:55:30,060 --> 01:55:31,120
A special sitting

3992
01:55:31,120 --> 01:55:35,340
of the Security Council.

3993
01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:37,940
Computers in the media,

3994
01:55:38,180 --> 01:55:39,000
1985.

3995
01:55:39,660 --> 01:55:40,920
Maybe a Netcafe.

3996
01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:42,920
Maybe a Netcafe.

3997
01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:43,340
I mean,

3998
01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:44,060
it's meant to just be

3999
01:55:44,060 --> 01:55:46,100
a quick blast scenario.

4000
01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:47,380
I didn't really want to go deep

4001
01:55:47,380 --> 01:55:48,720
into the computer world

4002
01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:49,520
too much.

4003
01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:50,860
Irish Vegan Muscle Man,

4004
01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:51,860
thank you very much there.

4005
01:55:52,020 --> 01:55:53,280
Serious stuff.

4006
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:55,580
You see there,

4007
01:55:55,700 --> 01:55:56,380
serious stuff.

4008
01:55:56,460 --> 01:55:57,240
Maybe we can just have

4009
01:55:57,240 --> 01:55:58,540
Danone on in the background

4010
01:55:58,540 --> 01:55:59,520
while we're selecting an

4011
01:55:59,520 --> 01:55:59,960
episode.

4012
01:56:00,440 --> 01:56:00,980
We waited

4013
01:56:00,980 --> 01:56:02,960
while its little ship

4014
01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:04,040
actively recruited

4015
01:56:04,040 --> 01:56:06,500
more nuclear scientists.

4016
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:08,440
The little ship lollipop.

4017
01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:08,980
We waited

4018
01:56:08,980 --> 01:56:10,360
while Iran constructed

4019
01:56:10,360 --> 01:56:12,900
a ballistic missile industry.

4020
01:56:12,900 --> 01:56:14,820
so large

4021
01:56:14,820 --> 01:56:16,480
and sophisticated.

4022
01:56:18,220 --> 01:56:19,940
And we can expose it now.

4023
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:21,900
But it was intended

4024
01:56:21,900 --> 01:56:24,320
to challenge the US

4025
01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:25,820
and Russia.

4026
01:56:27,100 --> 01:56:27,720
What about this?

4027
01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:29,260
psychological software,

4028
01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:30,540
the use of computers

4029
01:56:30,540 --> 01:56:32,160
to analyse personality

4030
01:56:32,160 --> 01:56:33,760
and diagnose problems

4031
01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:34,920
of human relations.

4032
01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:36,100
We waited for diplomacy

4033
01:56:36,100 --> 01:56:36,740
to work.

4034
01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:39,280
We gave the international

4035
01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:40,300
community time.

4036
01:56:41,020 --> 01:56:42,480
We watched negotiations

4037
01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:43,620
stretched on

4038
01:56:43,620 --> 01:56:46,540
as Iran made false concessions

4039
01:56:46,540 --> 01:56:47,680
or refueled

4040
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:49,580
the most fundamental conditions.

4041
01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:51,980
Good evening.

4042
01:56:52,120 --> 01:56:53,340
It's 10 o'clock.

4043
01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:55,620
This is Sky News at 10.

4044
01:56:56,120 --> 01:56:57,480
We are going to take you

4045
01:56:57,480 --> 01:56:58,200
straight away

4046
01:56:58,200 --> 01:56:59,200
to the Israeli...

4047
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:01,640
...to surface missile array.

4048
01:57:02,700 --> 01:57:04,480
Israeli Air Force fighter jets

4049
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:06,780
guided by precise intelligence

4050
01:57:06,780 --> 01:57:09,200
completed a series of strikes

4051
01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:10,200
against the Iranian regime's

4052
01:57:11,200 --> 01:57:12,180
missile capabilities.

4053
01:57:13,180 --> 01:57:14,900
dozens of launchers,

4054
01:57:15,700 --> 01:57:17,100
missile storage facilities,

4055
01:57:17,900 --> 01:57:19,180
additional military sites...

4056
01:57:20,040 --> 01:57:20,940
The nuclear...

4057
01:57:20,940 --> 01:57:22,920
The nuclear warhead waste

4058
01:57:22,920 --> 01:57:24,120
disposal facility

4059
01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:25,340
on Shadow Moses.

4060
01:57:26,060 --> 01:57:27,500
What we need now

4061
01:57:27,500 --> 01:57:29,020
is a fucking...

4062
01:57:29,020 --> 01:57:30,540
terrorist group

4063
01:57:30,540 --> 01:57:32,040
to take control.

4064
01:57:32,140 --> 01:57:33,640
A rogue group

4065
01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:34,740
of terrorist

4066
01:57:34,740 --> 01:57:36,600
spec ops

4067
01:57:36,600 --> 01:57:38,500
specialists

4068
01:57:38,500 --> 01:57:39,800
to take control

4069
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:40,860
of some

4070
01:57:40,860 --> 01:57:42,580
particular nuke

4071
01:57:42,580 --> 01:57:43,600
or something

4072
01:57:43,600 --> 01:57:45,000
and to really

4073
01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:46,260
shake up

4074
01:57:46,260 --> 01:57:47,120
the scene.

4075
01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:50,580
Because the nation states

4076
01:57:50,580 --> 01:57:51,480
aren't fucking

4077
01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:52,500
bringing it to the table.

4078
01:57:52,740 --> 01:57:53,800
It's like a rocket here,

4079
01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:54,660
a rocket there.

4080
01:57:55,360 --> 01:57:56,000
Have a bit of this.

4081
01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:56,680
have a bit of that.

4082
01:57:56,820 --> 01:57:57,340
Tit for tat.

4083
01:57:58,260 --> 01:57:59,000
You need...

4084
01:58:00,500 --> 01:58:01,040
What is it?

4085
01:58:01,220 --> 01:58:01,680
Foxhound

4086
01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:02,560
or Dead Cell

4087
01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:03,000
or some...

4088
01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:04,000
I mean...

4089
01:58:04,580 --> 01:58:05,660
Come on.

4090
01:58:06,380 --> 01:58:06,700
It's...

4091
01:58:06,700 --> 01:58:07,520
It's ready.

4092
01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:08,180
It's ripe.

4093
01:58:08,700 --> 01:58:09,780
It's a tinderbox.

4094
01:58:10,200 --> 01:58:11,260
It's a powder keg.

4095
01:58:11,840 --> 01:58:13,440
The world is ready to blow.

4096
01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:15,940
All we need is the right guys

4097
01:58:15,940 --> 01:58:16,820
in the right place

4098
01:58:16,820 --> 01:58:17,680
at the right time.

4099
01:58:19,500 --> 01:58:20,580
Late last year,

4100
01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:22,200
Iran launched

4101
01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:23,520
wave after wave

4102
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:24,540
of ballistic missiles

4103
01:58:24,540 --> 01:58:25,180
at our city.

4104
01:58:25,300 --> 01:58:25,800
effort.

4105
01:58:27,720 --> 01:58:28,660
Madam President,

4106
01:58:29,820 --> 01:58:30,520
this operation

4107
01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:31,980
was carried out

4108
01:58:31,980 --> 01:58:33,320
because the alternative

4109
01:58:33,320 --> 01:58:34,900
was unsinkable.

4110
01:58:36,780 --> 01:58:37,780
Well, that's that.

4111
01:58:38,180 --> 01:58:39,240
Back to this.

4112
01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:41,820
Computers in the Pentagon.

4113
01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:42,680
I mean,

4114
01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:43,980
I wanted to maybe

4115
01:58:43,980 --> 01:58:44,920
just bump it up

4116
01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:46,560
to maybe the 90s,

4117
01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:47,200
at least,

4118
01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:48,220
to see,

4119
01:58:48,380 --> 01:58:48,980
you know,

4120
01:58:49,060 --> 01:58:50,320
a step change

4121
01:58:50,320 --> 01:58:51,140
in urgency

4122
01:58:51,140 --> 01:58:51,840
vis-a-vis

4123
01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:52,820
the presentational

4124
01:58:52,820 --> 01:58:53,720
style of the show.

4125
01:58:54,440 --> 01:58:55,640
But you see

4126
01:58:55,640 --> 01:58:56,660
something like this.

4127
01:58:58,540 --> 01:58:59,320
I beg your pardon.

4128
01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:00,880
This psychological software,

4129
01:59:01,000 --> 01:59:01,880
the use of computers

4130
01:59:01,880 --> 01:59:03,120
to analyze personality

4131
01:59:03,120 --> 01:59:05,220
and diagnose problems

4132
01:59:05,220 --> 01:59:06,440
of human relations.

4133
01:59:07,080 --> 01:59:07,340
Now,

4134
01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:08,160
again,

4135
01:59:08,580 --> 01:59:09,480
have we watched it?

4136
01:59:10,140 --> 01:59:10,720
It isn't,

4137
01:59:10,720 --> 01:59:11,640
it isn't clicked

4138
01:59:11,640 --> 01:59:13,040
on Dara's site,

4139
01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:13,500
but I mean,

4140
01:59:13,560 --> 01:59:14,620
I think I've seen it before.

4141
01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:16,040
Thank you very much,

4142
01:59:16,120 --> 01:59:16,880
just as I say,

4143
01:59:17,080 --> 01:59:18,080
speak of the devil,

4144
01:59:18,420 --> 01:59:18,940
Dara's there.

4145
01:59:19,100 --> 01:59:20,220
Thank you very much for the,

4146
01:59:20,280 --> 01:59:21,040
if you were a member

4147
01:59:21,040 --> 01:59:22,100
of Foxhound,

4148
01:59:22,300 --> 01:59:23,940
what would be your weird gimmick

4149
01:59:23,940 --> 01:59:24,800
superpower?

4150
01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:26,380
Probably just spinning

4151
01:59:26,380 --> 01:59:27,500
on my fucking chair,

4152
01:59:27,680 --> 01:59:28,320
which I've done

4153
01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:29,300
numerous times

4154
01:59:29,300 --> 01:59:30,920
during many other streams

4155
01:59:30,920 --> 01:59:32,140
or,

4156
01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:32,580
uh,

4157
01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:34,500
just like kicking,

4158
01:59:34,760 --> 01:59:35,980
kicking the dummy to death

4159
01:59:35,980 --> 01:59:37,040
again.

4160
01:59:37,660 --> 01:59:38,300
I don't know.

4161
01:59:38,540 --> 01:59:39,640
I haven't thought about it,

4162
01:59:39,660 --> 01:59:40,880
but it's a serious question

4163
01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:41,680
and one that really

4164
01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:42,280
should be,

4165
01:59:42,440 --> 01:59:42,620
uh,

4166
01:59:43,260 --> 01:59:44,000
I should furnish you

4167
01:59:44,000 --> 01:59:45,140
with some proper details

4168
01:59:45,140 --> 01:59:46,080
of a good,

4169
01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:46,900
solid answer,

4170
01:59:46,980 --> 01:59:47,680
but I'll have to think

4171
01:59:47,680 --> 01:59:48,180
about that.

4172
01:59:49,900 --> 01:59:50,860
Keepy-uppies,

4173
01:59:51,360 --> 01:59:51,960
I suppose.

4174
01:59:52,160 --> 01:59:52,340
Yeah,

4175
01:59:52,420 --> 01:59:52,600
Sean,

4176
01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:52,880
that's,

4177
01:59:52,940 --> 01:59:53,760
that's definitely it.

4178
01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:54,720
Uh,

4179
01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:56,240
I don't really have

4180
01:59:56,240 --> 01:59:57,160
any other talents.

4181
01:59:57,580 --> 01:59:57,920
I mean,

4182
01:59:57,940 --> 01:59:58,740
if you could call that

4183
01:59:58,740 --> 01:59:59,140
a talent.

4184
01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:00,720
We could just click

4185
02:00:00,720 --> 02:00:01,280
into this

4186
02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:02,220
and just get a little,

4187
02:00:02,660 --> 02:00:03,920
we can dip out,

4188
02:00:04,020 --> 02:00:04,200
I mean,

4189
02:00:04,220 --> 02:00:05,000
I don't like leaving

4190
02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:05,960
one unwatched,

4191
02:00:06,080 --> 02:00:07,020
but fuck it,

4192
02:00:07,060 --> 02:00:07,600
let's do it.

4193
02:00:09,200 --> 02:00:10,000
Great sound.

4194
02:00:18,280 --> 02:00:19,860
That special relationship

4195
02:00:19,860 --> 02:00:20,880
between a therapist

4196
02:00:20,880 --> 02:00:21,900
and his patient.

4197
02:00:22,100 --> 02:00:23,120
Please tell me Stu

4198
02:00:23,120 --> 02:00:24,040
is in the fucking room

4199
02:00:24,040 --> 02:00:24,360
with them.

4200
02:00:25,120 --> 02:00:25,600
They let,

4201
02:00:26,100 --> 02:00:26,860
a therapist

4202
02:00:26,860 --> 02:00:28,200
and his patient,

4203
02:00:28,720 --> 02:00:29,060
right,

4204
02:00:29,620 --> 02:00:30,520
let Stu

4205
02:00:30,520 --> 02:00:31,780
into the room

4206
02:00:31,780 --> 02:00:33,220
to do a fucking link

4207
02:00:33,220 --> 02:00:34,880
for the Computer Chronicles

4208
02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:36,940
while that patient

4209
02:00:36,940 --> 02:00:37,540
was telling

4210
02:00:37,540 --> 02:00:38,760
the therapist

4211
02:00:38,760 --> 02:00:40,160
lots of private details

4212
02:00:40,160 --> 02:00:40,700
about their,

4213
02:00:40,840 --> 02:00:42,040
their life.

4214
02:00:44,740 --> 02:00:45,300
Supercomputer.

4215
02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:46,760
One of the fundamentals

4216
02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:48,220
of psychological therapy?

4217
02:00:48,680 --> 02:00:48,900
Well,

4218
02:00:49,000 --> 02:00:50,020
perhaps not anymore.

4219
02:00:50,020 --> 02:00:50,880
Ha ha ha ha!

4220
02:00:51,480 --> 02:00:52,480
He's just there,

4221
02:00:52,580 --> 02:00:52,780
look,

4222
02:00:53,020 --> 02:00:53,940
right in the corner.

4223
02:00:54,500 --> 02:00:55,400
It's fucking lovely.

4224
02:00:55,960 --> 02:00:56,820
and also,

4225
02:00:57,060 --> 02:00:58,220
harsh lighting as well.

4226
02:00:58,300 --> 02:00:59,480
You can see Stu's silhouette

4227
02:00:59,480 --> 02:01:00,200
at the back.

4228
02:01:01,020 --> 02:01:01,740
Look at that.

4229
02:01:02,320 --> 02:01:02,920
Beautiful,

4230
02:01:03,380 --> 02:01:04,320
beautiful curvature

4231
02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:05,680
on the dome.

4232
02:01:05,940 --> 02:01:06,540
The skull.

4233
02:01:07,540 --> 02:01:08,160
the cranium,

4234
02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:08,160
the cranium,

4235
02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:09,160
the crown,

4236
02:01:09,160 --> 02:01:10,320
the head,

4237
02:01:10,820 --> 02:01:11,420
the tet,

4238
02:01:11,920 --> 02:01:14,140
the man,

4239
02:01:14,320 --> 02:01:14,800
the myth,

4240
02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:15,500
the legend,

4241
02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:16,160
the stew.

4242
02:01:18,700 --> 02:01:19,660
And I wonder,

4243
02:01:19,660 --> 02:01:21,820
do they still do that nowadays

4244
02:01:21,820 --> 02:01:22,380
where,

4245
02:01:22,880 --> 02:01:23,180
you know,

4246
02:01:23,680 --> 02:01:24,620
they get the patient

4247
02:01:24,620 --> 02:01:25,880
to fucking lie down

4248
02:01:25,880 --> 02:01:27,180
on a chaise long

4249
02:01:27,180 --> 02:01:28,540
or they get them

4250
02:01:28,540 --> 02:01:30,500
on a lazy boy seat

4251
02:01:30,500 --> 02:01:31,600
to put the legs up.

4252
02:01:32,900 --> 02:01:33,800
Probably won't be,

4253
02:01:34,040 --> 02:01:35,520
wouldn't be done nowadays.

4254
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:37,020
It wouldn't really be

4255
02:01:37,020 --> 02:01:37,960
best practice.

4256
02:01:38,160 --> 02:01:38,420
Maybe,

4257
02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:39,100
I'm not sure,

4258
02:01:39,180 --> 02:01:40,340
maybe I'm jumping ahead here.

4259
02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:42,740
but he doesn't look

4260
02:01:42,740 --> 02:01:43,720
comfortable there either,

4261
02:01:43,780 --> 02:01:44,040
you know.

4262
02:01:44,460 --> 02:01:45,300
He's got the hand

4263
02:01:45,300 --> 02:01:46,640
on the side of the desk

4264
02:01:46,640 --> 02:01:47,440
for stability

4265
02:01:47,440 --> 02:01:49,380
and that sort of,

4266
02:01:49,460 --> 02:01:50,280
you know yourself,

4267
02:01:50,460 --> 02:01:51,080
if you've ever tried

4268
02:01:51,080 --> 02:01:51,780
to fucking write

4269
02:01:51,780 --> 02:01:53,820
on an A4 jotter

4270
02:01:53,820 --> 02:01:56,200
balanced on your knees,

4271
02:01:56,260 --> 02:01:57,400
it's never a comfortable

4272
02:01:57,400 --> 02:01:57,960
endeavour.

4273
02:01:58,080 --> 02:01:59,760
It usually ends to a load

4274
02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:01,780
of illegible scribblings

4275
02:02:01,780 --> 02:02:02,260
and whatnot.

4276
02:02:02,820 --> 02:02:03,740
But that's working

4277
02:02:03,740 --> 02:02:04,620
for him anyway.

4278
02:02:05,700 --> 02:02:07,060
Is it coverage?

4279
02:02:07,800 --> 02:02:09,340
Is it a cover-up operation?

4280
02:02:09,480 --> 02:02:09,960
We don't know.

4281
02:02:13,020 --> 02:02:14,500
But I'd be more concerned

4282
02:02:14,500 --> 02:02:15,340
with the fact that

4283
02:02:15,340 --> 02:02:16,740
if I was the lady there

4284
02:02:16,740 --> 02:02:18,220
trying to get therapy

4285
02:02:18,220 --> 02:02:18,940
off this fella,

4286
02:02:19,420 --> 02:02:20,540
there's a man

4287
02:02:20,540 --> 02:02:21,900
in the corner of the room

4288
02:02:21,900 --> 02:02:24,220
doing this.

4289
02:02:24,220 --> 02:02:25,420
psychological software

4290
02:02:25,420 --> 02:02:26,480
for computers,

4291
02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:27,960
a shrink on a disc.

4292
02:02:28,280 --> 02:02:29,340
How good is this stuff?

4293
02:02:29,400 --> 02:02:30,320
Is it just a toy

4294
02:02:30,320 --> 02:02:31,600
or a serious tool?

4295
02:02:31,960 --> 02:02:32,600
We'll get answers

4296
02:02:32,600 --> 02:02:33,360
to these questions

4297
02:02:33,360 --> 02:02:34,180
as we take a look

4298
02:02:34,180 --> 02:02:35,560
at psychological software

4299
02:02:35,560 --> 02:02:36,720
on this edition

4300
02:02:36,720 --> 02:02:38,320
of the Computer Chronicles.

4301
02:02:39,760 --> 02:02:40,800
It's an old one.

4302
02:02:41,140 --> 02:02:41,940
It's an old theme.

4303
02:02:41,940 --> 02:03:03,020
The Computer Chronicles

4304
02:03:03,020 --> 02:03:04,440
is made possible in part

4305
02:03:04,440 --> 02:03:05,900
by a grant from AFIPS,

4306
02:03:05,900 --> 02:03:07,220
the American Federation

4307
02:03:07,220 --> 02:03:09,400
of Information Processing Societies.

4308
02:03:09,800 --> 02:03:12,600
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4309
02:03:13,300 --> 02:03:14,720
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4310
02:03:14,720 --> 02:03:16,020
on business technology.

4311
02:03:16,660 --> 02:03:17,680
For conference information,

4312
02:03:17,900 --> 02:03:20,860
call 800-OAC-1986.

4313
02:03:21,500 --> 02:03:22,880
Exploring today's business

4314
02:03:22,880 --> 02:03:23,420
solutions.

4315
02:03:24,240 --> 02:03:25,020
Additional funding

4316
02:03:25,020 --> 02:03:26,680
is provided by McGraw-Hill,

4317
02:03:27,020 --> 02:03:28,000
publishers of Byte.

4318
02:03:28,460 --> 02:03:29,540
Byte's detailed technical

4319
02:03:29,540 --> 02:03:30,100
articles

4320
02:03:30,100 --> 02:03:31,740
on new hardware, software,

4321
02:03:32,000 --> 02:03:33,620
and languages cover the latest

4322
02:03:33,620 --> 02:03:35,060
in microcomputer technology

4323
02:03:35,060 --> 02:03:35,780
worldwide.

4324
02:03:36,580 --> 02:03:37,540
Byte, the international

4325
02:03:37,540 --> 02:03:38,440
standard.

4326
02:03:38,440 --> 02:03:48,700
Welcome to the Computer Chronicles.

4327
02:03:48,820 --> 02:03:49,520
I'm Stuart Chaffee,

4328
02:03:49,740 --> 02:03:50,420
and this is Gary.

4329
02:03:50,840 --> 02:03:51,760
Studios, come on,

4330
02:03:51,900 --> 02:03:52,900
leaps and bounds.

4331
02:03:53,680 --> 02:03:54,940
In three years,

4332
02:03:55,060 --> 02:03:56,160
since 1983,

4333
02:03:56,320 --> 02:03:57,400
it's 1986 now.

4334
02:03:57,500 --> 02:04:00,240
Look at the illuminated set.

4335
02:04:00,920 --> 02:04:01,580
It's a lot better.

4336
02:04:01,740 --> 02:04:02,340
The backdrop,

4337
02:04:02,960 --> 02:04:04,940
no longer the sun-kissed,

4338
02:04:04,940 --> 02:04:08,000
sort of sundown San Francisco,

4339
02:04:08,260 --> 02:04:09,240
more bright,

4340
02:04:09,340 --> 02:04:10,540
kind of midday afternoon.

4341
02:04:10,720 --> 02:04:12,080
You've got the Transamerica Pyramid,

4342
02:04:12,660 --> 02:04:14,020
almost as if it's popping out

4343
02:04:14,020 --> 02:04:15,040
the top of that fucking

4344
02:04:15,040 --> 02:04:17,000
computer monitor there.

4345
02:04:18,440 --> 02:04:19,880
And Stu just playing

4346
02:04:19,880 --> 02:04:20,880
with some application,

4347
02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:22,440
and Gary watching it.

4348
02:04:24,180 --> 02:04:25,680
Welcome to the Computer Chronicles.

4349
02:04:25,780 --> 02:04:26,620
I'm Stuart Chaffee,

4350
02:04:26,740 --> 02:04:27,960
and this is Gary Kildoing.

4351
02:04:28,020 --> 02:04:28,920
Gary, we're taking a look

4352
02:04:28,920 --> 02:04:29,700
at a program here

4353
02:04:29,700 --> 02:04:30,740
called IntraCourse,

4354
02:04:31,240 --> 02:04:31,740
and...

4355
02:04:31,740 --> 02:04:32,920
IntraCourse.

4356
02:04:33,340 --> 02:04:34,580
What it claims to be able to do

4357
02:04:34,580 --> 02:04:35,140
is to...

4358
02:04:35,140 --> 02:04:35,880
Gary, we're taking a look

4359
02:04:35,880 --> 02:04:36,660
at a program here

4360
02:04:36,660 --> 02:04:37,680
called IntraCourse,

4361
02:04:37,880 --> 02:04:39,000
and what it claims

4362
02:04:39,000 --> 02:04:39,680
to be able to do

4363
02:04:39,680 --> 02:04:40,800
is to help couples

4364
02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:42,260
with sexual compatibility...

4365
02:04:42,260 --> 02:04:44,480
So what's...

4366
02:04:44,480 --> 02:04:46,240
What's this graph about, then?

4367
02:04:46,980 --> 02:04:48,280
What's this graph gonna do?

4368
02:04:48,660 --> 02:04:49,400
...bility problems,

4369
02:04:49,800 --> 02:04:50,500
and I've answered...

4370
02:04:50,500 --> 02:04:50,940
...Kildoing.

4371
02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:51,900
Gary, we're taking a look

4372
02:04:51,900 --> 02:04:52,300
at a pro...

4373
02:04:52,300 --> 02:04:53,760
Welcome to the Computer Chronicles.

4374
02:04:53,840 --> 02:04:54,720
I'm Stuart Chaffee,

4375
02:04:54,800 --> 02:04:56,040
and this is Gary Kildoing.

4376
02:04:56,100 --> 02:04:57,000
Gary, we're taking a look

4377
02:04:57,000 --> 02:04:57,800
at a program here

4378
02:04:57,800 --> 02:04:58,800
called IntraCourse,

4379
02:04:59,020 --> 02:05:00,120
and what it claims

4380
02:05:00,120 --> 02:05:00,820
to be able to do

4381
02:05:00,820 --> 02:05:01,920
is to help couples

4382
02:05:01,920 --> 02:05:03,060
with sexual compatibility

4383
02:05:03,060 --> 02:05:04,640
or incompatibility problems,

4384
02:05:04,860 --> 02:05:05,640
and I've answered

4385
02:05:05,640 --> 02:05:06,860
about 100 or so questions,

4386
02:05:06,980 --> 02:05:07,800
giving it a profile

4387
02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:08,880
of two fictional people,

4388
02:05:09,080 --> 02:05:09,800
and this is giving me

4389
02:05:09,800 --> 02:05:10,920
now a graphic readout...

4390
02:05:10,920 --> 02:05:17,120
So you've got

4391
02:05:17,120 --> 02:05:19,080
a fucking axis here

4392
02:05:19,080 --> 02:05:20,920
of...

4393
02:05:20,920 --> 02:05:22,140
I don't know,

4394
02:05:22,240 --> 02:05:23,440
fucking intimacy

4395
02:05:23,440 --> 02:05:24,560
and distance,

4396
02:05:25,560 --> 02:05:26,360
and...

4397
02:05:26,360 --> 02:05:27,200
Well, what is the graph?

4398
02:05:27,260 --> 02:05:28,160
What's the axis here?

4399
02:05:28,240 --> 02:05:29,840
What's this line gonna denote?

4400
02:05:30,140 --> 02:05:31,940
That's the X and Y of it.

4401
02:05:33,920 --> 02:05:35,260
Personal continuum

4402
02:05:35,260 --> 02:05:36,820
at the top of the screen.

4403
02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:37,780
I don't know if you can notice

4404
02:05:37,780 --> 02:05:38,380
that there.

4405
02:05:42,420 --> 02:05:43,440
You know how to kill it.

4406
02:05:43,540 --> 02:05:44,020
No, I'm not.

4407
02:05:46,140 --> 02:05:47,220
You've got this

4408
02:05:47,220 --> 02:05:48,840
sort of distance,

4409
02:05:49,300 --> 02:05:50,140
and then intimacy

4410
02:05:50,140 --> 02:05:50,800
at the top.

4411
02:05:50,960 --> 02:05:52,400
Personal continuum here.

4412
02:05:52,540 --> 02:05:53,720
Exit to main menu.

4413
02:05:53,960 --> 02:05:54,840
Just press red.

4414
02:05:56,240 --> 02:05:57,960
And category 10.

4415
02:05:59,180 --> 02:05:59,860
Your score,

4416
02:06:00,160 --> 02:06:02,000
four out of a possible eight.

4417
02:06:02,600 --> 02:06:04,260
Press any key to continue.

4418
02:06:04,800 --> 02:06:06,040
Out of one of these people,

4419
02:06:06,120 --> 02:06:07,640
the intimacy versus distance

4420
02:06:07,640 --> 02:06:08,720
factor.

4421
02:06:08,900 --> 02:06:09,560
Another one here

4422
02:06:09,560 --> 02:06:11,500
is conventionality versus ingenuity,

4423
02:06:11,620 --> 02:06:12,220
for example.

4424
02:06:12,900 --> 02:06:13,340
Individual...

4425
02:06:13,340 --> 02:06:14,640
So this was gonna help

4426
02:06:14,640 --> 02:06:16,680
people in relationships,

4427
02:06:16,900 --> 02:06:18,360
moribund relationships,

4428
02:06:18,900 --> 02:06:20,040
really increase

4429
02:06:20,040 --> 02:06:21,920
the relationship,

4430
02:06:22,240 --> 02:06:23,300
get it back to fucking

4431
02:06:23,300 --> 02:06:24,180
winning ways again.

4432
02:06:25,300 --> 02:06:27,040
Just a load of bar charts.

4433
02:06:27,600 --> 02:06:28,780
I don't know about that.

4434
02:06:29,840 --> 02:06:31,100
I think the problems

4435
02:06:31,100 --> 02:06:33,060
may run deeper

4436
02:06:33,060 --> 02:06:34,620
than a fucking computer program,

4437
02:06:34,740 --> 02:06:35,120
but I mean,

4438
02:06:35,200 --> 02:06:36,400
I don't want to poo-poo it just

4439
02:06:36,400 --> 02:06:36,660
yet.

4440
02:06:36,700 --> 02:06:37,260
It could have been,

4441
02:06:37,340 --> 02:06:38,300
could have been amazing.

4442
02:06:38,600 --> 02:06:39,600
I'd never heard of this,

4443
02:06:39,680 --> 02:06:39,780
though.

4444
02:06:39,920 --> 02:06:40,780
Intra course.

4445
02:06:41,460 --> 02:06:42,520
It's called Intra.

4446
02:06:43,040 --> 02:06:43,660
Darren Mack,

4447
02:06:43,720 --> 02:06:44,720
thank you very much there

4448
02:06:44,720 --> 02:06:46,100
for the tip.

4449
02:06:46,260 --> 02:06:47,640
Very, very kind of you.

4450
02:06:47,860 --> 02:06:48,880
And this is giving me now

4451
02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:49,160
a graphing...

4452
02:06:49,160 --> 02:06:50,100
And Vincent Brown.

4453
02:06:50,320 --> 02:06:51,020
Thank you very much.

4454
02:06:51,020 --> 02:06:52,110
...read out on one of these

4455
02:06:52,110 --> 02:06:52,280
people,

4456
02:06:52,380 --> 02:06:53,880
the intimacy versus distance

4457
02:06:53,880 --> 02:06:54,960
factor.

4458
02:06:55,140 --> 02:06:55,820
Another one here

4459
02:06:55,820 --> 02:06:57,740
is conventionality versus ingenuity,

4460
02:06:57,860 --> 02:06:58,460
for example.

4461
02:06:59,540 --> 02:07:01,280
Individuality versus interpersonality.

4462
02:07:01,620 --> 02:07:02,060
And in fact,

4463
02:07:02,100 --> 02:07:03,020
it'll give me a...

4464
02:07:03,020 --> 02:07:05,880
No, you may optionally print

4465
02:07:05,880 --> 02:07:07,240
the following four screens

4466
02:07:07,240 --> 02:07:08,660
of information to your printer

4467
02:07:08,660 --> 02:07:10,560
by pressing the shift key

4468
02:07:10,560 --> 02:07:13,340
and print screen key together

4469
02:07:13,340 --> 02:07:13,740
once

4470
02:07:13,740 --> 02:07:15,560
for each screen you wish to

4471
02:07:15,560 --> 02:07:16,280
print.

4472
02:07:16,880 --> 02:07:18,060
So you could print out the

4473
02:07:18,060 --> 02:07:18,680
findings

4474
02:07:18,680 --> 02:07:20,060
and then sit down with your

4475
02:07:20,060 --> 02:07:20,620
spouse,

4476
02:07:20,760 --> 02:07:21,820
your partner or whatever,

4477
02:07:22,380 --> 02:07:23,340
over the dinner table or

4478
02:07:23,340 --> 02:07:24,140
whatever,

4479
02:07:24,280 --> 02:07:25,230
maybe when the kids have gone

4480
02:07:25,230 --> 02:07:25,520
to bed,

4481
02:07:25,800 --> 02:07:29,740
and then go through the files,

4482
02:07:30,420 --> 02:07:32,940
which denote what and where

4483
02:07:32,940 --> 02:07:35,320
and who and why and when

4484
02:07:35,320 --> 02:07:36,830
is to blame for the failing

4485
02:07:36,830 --> 02:07:37,780
relationship.

4486
02:07:37,880 --> 02:07:38,840
...patibility percentage

4487
02:07:38,840 --> 02:07:40,440
on 12 different characteristics

4488
02:07:40,440 --> 02:07:41,180
of these two...

4489
02:07:41,180 --> 02:07:42,640
Dominance, submissiveness,

4490
02:07:43,040 --> 02:07:43,920
trust, mistrust,

4491
02:07:44,100 --> 02:07:45,440
activity, passivity,

4492
02:07:45,920 --> 02:07:47,080
independence, dependence.

4493
02:07:48,180 --> 02:07:49,220
Are you love prone?

4494
02:07:50,600 --> 02:07:52,240
Are you non-love prone?

4495
02:07:52,340 --> 02:07:53,820
What about sensuality?

4496
02:07:54,660 --> 02:07:55,600
What about sexuality?

4497
02:07:55,880 --> 02:07:57,540
What about homosexuality

4498
02:07:57,540 --> 02:07:58,860
and heterosexuality?

4499
02:07:59,780 --> 02:08:01,980
Strong versus weak sex drive.

4500
02:08:02,400 --> 02:08:04,240
Intimacy versus distance.

4501
02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:08,040
Conventionality versus ingenuity.

4502
02:08:09,240 --> 02:08:10,310
I don't know what's going on

4503
02:08:10,310 --> 02:08:11,040
here.

4504
02:08:11,400 --> 02:08:13,580
Individuality and interpersonality.

4505
02:08:14,100 --> 02:08:15,320
Overall compatibility.

4506
02:08:15,820 --> 02:08:16,160
And then,

4507
02:08:16,740 --> 02:08:18,680
is that a fucking suggestive

4508
02:08:18,680 --> 02:08:20,600
graphic?

4509
02:08:21,080 --> 02:08:23,300
Or is it just leading us

4510
02:08:23,300 --> 02:08:24,780
onto the score over here?

4511
02:08:24,820 --> 02:08:25,640
I'm not sure.

4512
02:08:27,460 --> 02:08:28,200
...particular people.

4513
02:08:28,460 --> 02:08:29,420
It's just one example

4514
02:08:29,420 --> 02:08:30,520
of the whole host...

4515
02:08:30,520 --> 02:08:31,520
Oh, you get...

4516
02:08:31,520 --> 02:08:32,180
That was a...

4517
02:08:32,180 --> 02:08:33,340
...12 different characteristics.

4518
02:08:33,640 --> 02:08:34,400
That leads...

4519
02:08:34,400 --> 02:08:35,600
That leads in to 60...

4520
02:08:35,600 --> 02:08:37,600
You scored 66.25%.

4521
02:08:38,820 --> 02:08:39,600
Okay?

4522
02:08:41,400 --> 02:08:42,770
You only scored 16 on

4523
02:08:42,770 --> 02:08:43,880
homosexuality.

4524
02:08:44,540 --> 02:08:44,980
Okay?

4525
02:08:45,860 --> 02:08:46,760
Which you scored...

4526
02:08:46,760 --> 02:08:48,400
You scored 100 on love prone.

4527
02:08:49,440 --> 02:08:50,560
You'll be glad to hear.

4528
02:08:51,240 --> 02:08:52,120
Only 25...

4529
02:08:53,240 --> 02:08:54,360
On conventionality.

4530
02:08:55,720 --> 02:08:56,160
Conventionality.

4531
02:08:56,500 --> 02:08:57,680
It's just one example

4532
02:08:57,680 --> 02:08:59,280
of the whole host

4533
02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:00,380
of psychological software

4534
02:09:00,380 --> 02:09:01,280
which is out on the market

4535
02:09:01,280 --> 02:09:01,780
right now.

4536
02:09:02,240 --> 02:09:03,040
Question I have is

4537
02:09:03,040 --> 02:09:03,780
how does a dumb

4538
02:09:03,780 --> 02:09:04,880
number crunching computer

4539
02:09:04,880 --> 02:09:05,760
do anything useful

4540
02:09:05,760 --> 02:09:07,120
with regard to human...

4541
02:09:07,120 --> 02:09:08,140
Years ago,

4542
02:09:08,360 --> 02:09:10,080
I was thankful for your tip.

4543
02:09:11,740 --> 02:09:12,180
Intra course.

4544
02:09:12,700 --> 02:09:13,560
Thank you very much.

4545
02:09:14,060 --> 02:09:14,580
Behaviour.

4546
02:09:14,960 --> 02:09:15,380
Well, Stuart,

4547
02:09:15,480 --> 02:09:16,280
number crunching computers

4548
02:09:16,280 --> 02:09:17,140
have been used for years

4549
02:09:17,140 --> 02:09:18,180
to sum up the scores,

4550
02:09:18,300 --> 02:09:19,280
say, of objective tests

4551
02:09:19,280 --> 02:09:20,440
like personality inventories.

4552
02:09:20,780 --> 02:09:21,340
When it comes to

4553
02:09:21,340 --> 02:09:22,740
non-objective programs,

4554
02:09:22,840 --> 02:09:23,080
well...

4555
02:09:23,080 --> 02:09:23,520
And you say

4556
02:09:23,520 --> 02:09:24,200
Theresa Carmody

4557
02:09:24,200 --> 02:09:25,100
was three days away

4558
02:09:25,100 --> 02:09:25,660
from her death

4559
02:09:25,660 --> 02:09:26,700
when you wrote

4560
02:09:26,700 --> 02:09:28,300
that you had intracourse.

4561
02:09:29,580 --> 02:09:30,340
Programs like this,

4562
02:09:30,380 --> 02:09:30,700
for example,

4563
02:09:30,740 --> 02:09:31,440
can be a lot of fun

4564
02:09:31,440 --> 02:09:32,280
but there's a real question

4565
02:09:32,280 --> 02:09:33,120
about how valuable

4566
02:09:33,120 --> 02:09:34,740
the computer analysis really is.

4567
02:09:35,020 --> 02:09:35,520
But it may give us

4568
02:09:35,520 --> 02:09:36,380
a chance to use things

4569
02:09:36,380 --> 02:09:37,180
like expert systems,

4570
02:09:37,260 --> 02:09:37,860
rule-based systems

4571
02:09:37,860 --> 02:09:38,980
to get those meaningful answers.

4572
02:09:39,320 --> 02:09:40,180
We're going to take a look

4573
02:09:40,180 --> 02:09:40,900
at a whole range

4574
02:09:40,900 --> 02:09:42,320
of psychological software today

4575
02:09:42,320 --> 02:09:43,620
from self-help programs

4576
02:09:43,620 --> 02:09:45,040
to more sophisticated software

4577
02:09:45,040 --> 02:09:45,920
that's used in

4578
02:09:45,920 --> 02:09:47,120
professional psychotherapy.

4579
02:09:47,520 --> 02:09:48,620
We'll begin by taking a look

4580
02:09:48,620 --> 02:09:49,740
at how psychiatrists

4581
02:09:49,740 --> 02:09:51,160
use psychological software

4582
02:09:51,160 --> 02:09:52,080
to help people

4583
02:09:52,080 --> 02:09:53,600
with serious mental problems.

4584
02:09:54,260 --> 02:09:55,280
Beautiful stuff.

4585
02:09:55,360 --> 02:09:57,500
It's a big, big opening gambit

4586
02:09:57,500 --> 02:09:58,460
for this scene.

4587
02:09:59,160 --> 02:10:00,680
How computers can be used

4588
02:10:00,680 --> 02:10:02,420
for people with serious

4589
02:10:02,420 --> 02:10:03,780
mental problems.

4590
02:10:03,980 --> 02:10:05,120
Let's jump right into it.

4591
02:10:06,020 --> 02:10:07,140
How psychiatrists

4592
02:10:07,140 --> 02:10:08,560
use psychological software

4593
02:10:08,560 --> 02:10:09,480
to help people

4594
02:10:09,480 --> 02:10:10,940
with serious mental problems.

4595
02:10:12,940 --> 02:10:14,100
Patients recovering

4596
02:10:14,100 --> 02:10:15,520
from severe head trauma

4597
02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:16,580
usually undergo

4598
02:10:16,580 --> 02:10:17,880
lengthy rehabilitation

4599
02:10:17,880 --> 02:10:19,340
to try to regain

4600
02:10:19,340 --> 02:10:21,040
basic cognitive functions.

4601
02:10:21,400 --> 02:10:22,600
I'm sensing that we could

4602
02:10:22,600 --> 02:10:24,740
be entering a dangerous

4603
02:10:24,740 --> 02:10:25,880
few moments

4604
02:10:25,880 --> 02:10:27,080
where it could be

4605
02:10:27,080 --> 02:10:29,160
very, very dangerous

4606
02:10:29,160 --> 02:10:30,060
for us to say

4607
02:10:30,060 --> 02:10:30,880
or make jokes.

4608
02:10:31,000 --> 02:10:31,860
So we will just

4609
02:10:31,860 --> 02:10:33,760
approach these next few moments

4610
02:10:33,760 --> 02:10:35,700
with dignity and respect.

4611
02:10:35,700 --> 02:10:36,600
Exercises to improve

4612
02:10:36,600 --> 02:10:37,920
concentration, memory,

4613
02:10:38,080 --> 02:10:39,080
or motor skills

4614
02:10:39,080 --> 02:10:41,180
involve repetitive games

4615
02:10:41,180 --> 02:10:42,920
administered by a therapist.

4616
02:10:43,320 --> 02:10:45,140
But computers are changing

4617
02:10:45,140 --> 02:10:46,200
cognitive therapy

4618
02:10:46,200 --> 02:10:48,240
often with impressive results.

4619
02:10:49,360 --> 02:10:50,280
Mental exercises

4620
02:10:50,280 --> 02:10:51,460
most suited to

4621
02:10:51,460 --> 02:10:52,480
head injury patients

4622
02:10:52,480 --> 02:10:53,920
are easily adapted

4623
02:10:53,920 --> 02:10:55,320
to a computer program.

4624
02:10:56,120 --> 02:10:56,460
Specialized...

4625
02:10:56,460 --> 02:10:57,840
I was all up

4626
02:10:57,840 --> 02:10:59,100
for the therapist

4627
02:10:59,100 --> 02:11:00,260
and that,

4628
02:11:00,340 --> 02:11:01,440
but when it gets to people

4629
02:11:01,440 --> 02:11:02,940
who have really had

4630
02:11:02,940 --> 02:11:04,000
fucking serious injuries,

4631
02:11:04,120 --> 02:11:05,200
we might need to just

4632
02:11:05,200 --> 02:11:06,580
move on a little bit there.

4633
02:11:06,580 --> 02:11:12,280
Let's get to psychware.

4634
02:11:12,380 --> 02:11:13,270
Let's just go to psychware

4635
02:11:13,270 --> 02:11:13,660
there.

4636
02:11:18,940 --> 02:11:20,160
Joining us now in the studio

4637
02:11:20,160 --> 02:11:20,900
are Dr. Jim.

4638
02:11:21,440 --> 02:11:22,700
Bit concerning that

4639
02:11:22,700 --> 02:11:23,540
when it cuts back,

4640
02:11:23,660 --> 02:11:25,080
the lads are all smiling

4641
02:11:25,080 --> 02:11:25,640
and laughing

4642
02:11:25,640 --> 02:11:26,720
like maybe they've been

4643
02:11:26,720 --> 02:11:28,160
having a bit of a fucking joke.

4644
02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:30,160
Which is a shame

4645
02:11:30,160 --> 02:11:31,220
because I put a lot

4646
02:11:31,220 --> 02:11:32,100
of fucking respect

4647
02:11:32,100 --> 02:11:34,400
on these guys, you know?

4648
02:11:34,600 --> 02:11:35,360
I'd hate to think

4649
02:11:35,360 --> 02:11:36,820
that they were...

4650
02:11:36,820 --> 02:11:38,280
that something was being said

4651
02:11:38,280 --> 02:11:39,680
or there was a bit of fucking

4652
02:11:39,680 --> 02:11:41,200
humor going on.

4653
02:11:41,540 --> 02:11:42,260
Thank you very much

4654
02:11:42,260 --> 02:11:43,440
Cardinal O'Flanagan

4655
02:11:43,440 --> 02:11:45,160
for the tip.

4656
02:11:48,160 --> 02:11:49,440
Joining us now in the studio

4657
02:11:49,440 --> 02:11:50,680
are Dr. Jim Johnson,

4658
02:11:50,780 --> 02:11:51,280
a psychologist

4659
02:11:51,280 --> 02:11:52,040
and the president

4660
02:11:52,040 --> 02:11:53,020
of Human Edge Software,

4661
02:11:53,140 --> 02:11:54,200
makers of Mindprober

4662
02:11:54,200 --> 02:11:55,120
and Mind Over Minors,

4663
02:11:55,180 --> 02:11:55,580
among others.

4664
02:11:55,980 --> 02:11:56,760
Also we have with us

4665
02:11:56,760 --> 02:11:57,820
Dr. James Gardner,

4666
02:11:57,960 --> 02:11:58,800
also a psychologist

4667
02:11:58,800 --> 02:11:59,420
who has developed

4668
02:11:59,420 --> 02:12:00,100
some software

4669
02:12:00,100 --> 02:12:00,720
which is used

4670
02:12:00,720 --> 02:12:01,560
in treating serious

4671
02:12:01,560 --> 02:12:02,500
mental health problems.

4672
02:12:02,740 --> 02:12:02,880
Gary?

4673
02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:04,140
Jim, we'll start out

4674
02:12:04,140 --> 02:12:04,880
with a question.

4675
02:12:05,080 --> 02:12:06,060
We could have picked

4676
02:12:06,060 --> 02:12:06,760
a dodge episode.

4677
02:12:06,760 --> 02:12:07,180
A question,

4678
02:12:07,320 --> 02:12:08,240
is it really possible

4679
02:12:08,240 --> 02:12:09,360
nowadays with a computer

4680
02:12:09,360 --> 02:12:09,720
program

4681
02:12:09,720 --> 02:12:11,620
to get meaningful results

4682
02:12:11,620 --> 02:12:12,740
of a subjective analysis

4683
02:12:12,740 --> 02:12:13,560
of someone's behavior?

4684
02:12:13,900 --> 02:12:14,100
Sure.

4685
02:12:14,260 --> 02:12:17,520
I think that at a surface level,

4686
02:12:17,620 --> 02:12:18,140
the kind of thing

4687
02:12:18,140 --> 02:12:19,260
that you and I might want

4688
02:12:19,260 --> 02:12:20,400
on a day-to-day basis,

4689
02:12:20,560 --> 02:12:21,280
you can do a lot

4690
02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:21,840
with a computer.

4691
02:12:22,160 --> 02:12:22,880
That's not to say

4692
02:12:22,880 --> 02:12:24,000
that it can do the same thing

4693
02:12:24,000 --> 02:12:24,700
as a professional

4694
02:12:24,700 --> 02:12:26,420
or somebody who's going

4695
02:12:26,420 --> 02:12:27,660
to take a more intense look,

4696
02:12:27,800 --> 02:12:29,400
but you can do

4697
02:12:29,400 --> 02:12:30,600
certainly much more

4698
02:12:30,600 --> 02:12:31,860
in an interactive mode

4699
02:12:31,860 --> 02:12:32,620
than you can,

4700
02:12:32,820 --> 02:12:33,460
say, with a book,

4701
02:12:33,540 --> 02:12:34,940
which is the common alternative.

4702
02:12:35,480 --> 02:12:35,640
Okay.

4703
02:12:35,780 --> 02:12:36,540
Jim, what's your opinion?

4704
02:12:36,540 --> 02:12:37,380
Well, I'd be a little

4705
02:12:37,380 --> 02:12:38,660
more cautious than Jim.

4706
02:12:39,020 --> 02:12:40,140
We spend on the programs

4707
02:12:40,140 --> 02:12:42,260
we do a great deal of time.

4708
02:12:42,320 --> 02:12:43,420
Who does he look like?

4709
02:12:43,480 --> 02:12:44,740
I'm assessing the...

4710
02:12:44,740 --> 02:12:49,760
One of the Harry Anfield

4711
02:12:49,760 --> 02:12:50,460
Scousers.

4712
02:12:51,740 --> 02:12:53,860
Or maybe Kevin Keegan.

4713
02:12:53,860 --> 02:12:57,500
Liability, validity, and...

4714
02:12:57,500 --> 02:12:59,660
Mario.

4715
02:13:00,020 --> 02:13:01,180
Accuracy of the data

4716
02:13:01,180 --> 02:13:01,960
that's inputted

4717
02:13:01,960 --> 02:13:02,980
right while it's inputted.

4718
02:13:03,280 --> 02:13:04,960
And we won't run a program

4719
02:13:04,960 --> 02:13:07,500
unless that information

4720
02:13:07,500 --> 02:13:09,100
is reliable, valid, and

4721
02:13:09,100 --> 02:13:09,480
accurate.

4722
02:13:09,580 --> 02:13:10,240
And where it's not,

4723
02:13:10,320 --> 02:13:11,260
we require the people

4724
02:13:11,260 --> 02:13:12,860
to go back and change the...

4725
02:13:12,860 --> 02:13:14,500
Amish, look!

4726
02:13:18,540 --> 02:13:19,800
Let's get the cap out.

4727
02:13:19,800 --> 02:13:23,200
Get...

4728
02:13:23,200 --> 02:13:24,560
Get the snap back out.

4729
02:13:24,560 --> 02:13:25,560
Get...

4730
02:13:25,560 --> 02:13:26,680
Get the snap back out.

4731
02:13:36,680 --> 02:13:46,680
Well, firstly,

4732
02:13:47,080 --> 02:13:48,340
when you're dealing with people

4733
02:13:48,340 --> 02:13:50,640
who've had a bit of bother

4734
02:13:50,640 --> 02:13:51,540
in the mind,

4735
02:13:52,320 --> 02:13:53,360
you first have to

4736
02:13:53,360 --> 02:13:55,640
look at the computer

4737
02:13:55,640 --> 02:13:56,760
and say to the computer,

4738
02:13:56,880 --> 02:13:58,500
what can the computer do

4739
02:13:58,500 --> 02:13:59,360
to help that person?

4740
02:13:59,900 --> 02:14:00,580
And if it means

4741
02:14:00,580 --> 02:14:01,160
moving a mouse.

4742
02:14:02,480 --> 02:14:03,400
In a particular case

4743
02:14:03,400 --> 02:14:03,780
of the program,

4744
02:14:03,840 --> 02:14:04,300
we'll see in a minute,

4745
02:14:04,380 --> 02:14:05,160
that's more oriented,

4746
02:14:05,240 --> 02:14:06,360
I guess, toward consumer.

4747
02:14:06,620 --> 02:14:06,880
Sure.

4748
02:14:07,360 --> 02:14:07,920
Can we take a look

4749
02:14:07,920 --> 02:14:08,340
at the program,

4750
02:14:08,420 --> 02:14:08,700
see how it works?

4751
02:14:08,700 --> 02:14:08,840
Sure.

4752
02:14:09,000 --> 02:14:09,840
This is MindProber,

4753
02:14:09,840 --> 02:14:10,780
and it's the...

4754
02:14:10,780 --> 02:14:11,740
Oh, it's Mind Over Miners.

4755
02:14:11,920 --> 02:14:12,480
I'm sorry.

4756
02:14:14,100 --> 02:14:14,540
Minecraft.

4757
02:14:16,540 --> 02:14:17,480
Mind Over Miners.

4758
02:14:18,020 --> 02:14:19,580
And it really has two

4759
02:14:19,580 --> 02:14:20,040
components.

4760
02:14:20,200 --> 02:14:21,020
You assess yourself,

4761
02:14:21,140 --> 02:14:23,180
you assess your child,

4762
02:14:23,440 --> 02:14:24,800
and then it gives you a report.

4763
02:14:24,940 --> 02:14:26,120
Now, the purpose of assessing

4764
02:14:26,120 --> 02:14:26,600
yourself

4765
02:14:26,600 --> 02:14:27,420
and the other

4766
02:14:27,420 --> 02:14:28,900
is so it can categorize who you

4767
02:14:28,900 --> 02:14:29,200
are,

4768
02:14:29,620 --> 02:14:31,180
categorize who the other person

4769
02:14:31,180 --> 02:14:31,500
is,

4770
02:14:31,760 --> 02:14:33,160
and then tailor down the

4771
02:14:33,160 --> 02:14:33,840
strategy

4772
02:14:33,840 --> 02:14:35,500
for how to deal with them.

4773
02:14:35,720 --> 02:14:36,640
So let's see how you do that

4774
02:14:36,640 --> 02:14:37,320
assessment, Jim.

4775
02:14:37,460 --> 02:14:38,120
We've gone ahead,

4776
02:14:38,120 --> 02:14:39,420
and I've filled in a series of

4777
02:14:39,420 --> 02:14:39,940
things.

4778
02:14:40,000 --> 02:14:41,040
And there are simple adjectives

4779
02:14:41,040 --> 02:14:42,740
like bossy, active, and so on.

4780
02:14:42,740 --> 02:14:43,600
I'm not going to go through all

4781
02:14:43,600 --> 02:14:43,940
of these

4782
02:14:43,940 --> 02:14:44,900
in the interest of time.

4783
02:14:45,600 --> 02:14:46,840
So assuming I've gone through...

4784
02:14:46,840 --> 02:14:48,460
What the fuck is this?

4785
02:14:49,540 --> 02:14:50,640
Book here has a picture of

4786
02:14:50,640 --> 02:14:51,340
someone on it.

4787
02:14:52,020 --> 02:14:53,000
Is that a face?

4788
02:14:53,460 --> 02:14:54,880
Or a fucking...

4789
02:14:54,880 --> 02:14:55,520
A torso?

4790
02:14:57,460 --> 02:14:58,750
Like, that looks like a fucking

4791
02:14:58,750 --> 02:14:59,400
belly button.

4792
02:15:00,820 --> 02:15:01,460
Weird, man.

4793
02:15:01,500 --> 02:15:02,080
Whatever it is,

4794
02:15:02,100 --> 02:15:02,860
it's fucked up.

4795
02:15:04,740 --> 02:15:05,100
Scary.

4796
02:15:05,100 --> 02:15:08,700
Through those 50 items,

4797
02:15:08,840 --> 02:15:09,780
now I'd go through

4798
02:15:09,780 --> 02:15:11,600
and I'd want to assess the

4799
02:15:11,600 --> 02:15:11,980
child

4800
02:15:11,980 --> 02:15:13,420
that is of interest.

4801
02:15:13,540 --> 02:15:14,080
In this case,

4802
02:15:14,120 --> 02:15:15,380
I have put in my daughter,

4803
02:15:15,380 --> 02:15:15,880
Jenny.

4804
02:15:16,180 --> 02:15:16,960
Let's stop just a second

4805
02:15:16,960 --> 02:15:17,950
to see some of these traits,

4806
02:15:17,950 --> 02:15:18,580
though, Jim.

4807
02:15:19,080 --> 02:15:19,400
All right.

4808
02:15:19,460 --> 02:15:21,100
So it's rating on agree or

4809
02:15:21,100 --> 02:15:21,960
disagree,

4810
02:15:22,160 --> 02:15:22,980
on like anxious,

4811
02:15:23,500 --> 02:15:24,840
she's not bossy,

4812
02:15:24,840 --> 02:15:25,420
she is,

4813
02:15:25,480 --> 02:15:26,600
like most teenagers,

4814
02:15:26,820 --> 02:15:27,360
active,

4815
02:15:27,880 --> 02:15:28,600
clear thinking,

4816
02:15:29,460 --> 02:15:30,380
not idealistic,

4817
02:15:30,380 --> 02:15:30,960
and so on.

4818
02:15:31,100 --> 02:15:31,320
Okay.

4819
02:15:31,360 --> 02:15:32,480
And there's about 50 of these.

4820
02:15:32,480 --> 02:15:33,860
About 50 in each case

4821
02:15:33,860 --> 02:15:34,660
that are developed

4822
02:15:34,660 --> 02:15:35,380
scientifically

4823
02:15:35,380 --> 02:15:38,540
by norming various groups of

4824
02:15:38,540 --> 02:15:38,960
people

4825
02:15:38,960 --> 02:15:40,060
observing their children.

4826
02:15:40,960 --> 02:15:41,480
So if we...

4827
02:15:42,040 --> 02:15:43,280
I have no idea what...

4828
02:15:43,280 --> 02:15:45,060
No idea what this software is.

4829
02:15:45,060 --> 02:15:46,540
And go to what the output

4830
02:15:46,540 --> 02:15:48,020
of the program is.

4831
02:15:48,280 --> 02:15:49,960
Again, coming back to the main

4832
02:15:49,960 --> 02:15:50,500
menu,

4833
02:15:51,000 --> 02:15:53,760
you can then ask for a report.

4834
02:15:53,880 --> 02:15:55,280
The only person we have in here

4835
02:15:55,280 --> 02:15:55,860
is Jenny.

4836
02:15:57,360 --> 02:15:58,880
And the report comes out

4837
02:15:58,880 --> 02:16:00,540
where it tells you

4838
02:16:00,540 --> 02:16:01,630
there's a book that comes along

4839
02:16:01,630 --> 02:16:02,020
with it.

4840
02:16:02,060 --> 02:16:02,920
It tells you there's some

4841
02:16:02,920 --> 02:16:03,660
generic advice.

4842
02:16:03,660 --> 02:16:04,560
It's a little bit of a built-in

4843
02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:05,260
advertisement.

4844
02:16:05,420 --> 02:16:06,000
Yes, of course.

4845
02:16:07,000 --> 02:16:07,980
And we want this one to go to

4846
02:16:07,980 --> 02:16:09,080
the screen.

4847
02:16:09,900 --> 02:16:11,000
And what comes out is...

4848
02:16:11,000 --> 02:16:11,940
The first section is

4849
02:16:11,940 --> 02:16:13,020
understanding her.

4850
02:16:13,060 --> 02:16:13,800
And the point of this

4851
02:16:13,800 --> 02:16:14,660
is to talk about

4852
02:16:14,660 --> 02:16:15,880
who the two of you are

4853
02:16:15,880 --> 02:16:17,120
and how you're likely to get

4854
02:16:17,120 --> 02:16:17,620
along.

4855
02:16:17,680 --> 02:16:18,520
No advice in this,

4856
02:16:18,580 --> 02:16:19,760
but just to give you some idea.

4857
02:16:19,760 --> 02:16:20,960
It talks in this case

4858
02:16:20,960 --> 02:16:22,580
about we're both adventure-seeking.

4859
02:16:23,500 --> 02:16:24,800
And be prepared for that.

4860
02:16:24,860 --> 02:16:25,580
Don't be too upset

4861
02:16:25,580 --> 02:16:26,520
if she's like you are.

4862
02:16:27,240 --> 02:16:28,180
And this goes on

4863
02:16:28,180 --> 02:16:29,680
for roughly a page and a half.

4864
02:16:30,600 --> 02:16:31,220
Next thing,

4865
02:16:31,280 --> 02:16:32,790
it gives a set of specific

4866
02:16:32,790 --> 02:16:33,280
advice

4867
02:16:33,280 --> 02:16:34,750
in areas that parents are

4868
02:16:34,750 --> 02:16:35,820
interested in.

4869
02:16:36,360 --> 02:16:37,960
The performance now.

4870
02:16:38,420 --> 02:16:38,740
Keep...

4871
02:16:38,740 --> 02:16:40,010
There's a more professional

4872
02:16:40,010 --> 02:16:40,580
surface.

4873
02:16:41,040 --> 02:16:41,680
People might say,

4874
02:16:41,740 --> 02:16:43,100
well, this is a superficial

4875
02:16:43,100 --> 02:16:43,720
program.

4876
02:16:43,880 --> 02:16:45,190
And they're just asking a

4877
02:16:45,190 --> 02:16:45,840
couple of questions

4878
02:16:45,840 --> 02:16:46,550
and come up with a few

4879
02:16:46,550 --> 02:16:47,100
paragraphs.

4880
02:16:47,740 --> 02:16:48,640
Smiling Gary.

4881
02:16:49,300 --> 02:16:50,840
I like the way Gary smiles

4882
02:16:50,840 --> 02:16:53,710
and in his initial conversational

4883
02:16:53,710 --> 02:16:54,200
salvo

4884
02:16:54,200 --> 02:16:56,880
to get the guest on his side.

4885
02:16:57,060 --> 02:16:57,920
And then he hits him

4886
02:16:57,920 --> 02:16:59,130
with the question bomb at the

4887
02:16:59,130 --> 02:16:59,320
end

4888
02:16:59,320 --> 02:17:00,160
with no smile.

4889
02:17:00,620 --> 02:17:01,580
It's a great approach.

4890
02:17:02,480 --> 02:17:03,400
You lure them in.

4891
02:17:04,480 --> 02:17:05,080
They're just asking a couple of

4892
02:17:05,080 --> 02:17:05,880
questions.

4893
02:17:05,940 --> 02:17:06,840
It is a meanable...

4894
02:17:08,120 --> 02:17:08,460
...come up with a few

4895
02:17:08,460 --> 02:17:09,440
paragraphs.

4896
02:17:09,660 --> 02:17:09,840
Demeanor.

4897
02:17:10,200 --> 02:17:11,620
Is this technology based in,

4898
02:17:11,620 --> 02:17:11,800
say,

4899
02:17:11,860 --> 02:17:13,330
a more professional system of

4900
02:17:13,330 --> 02:17:14,040
some sort?

4901
02:17:14,260 --> 02:17:14,660
Oh, sure.

4902
02:17:15,800 --> 02:17:16,760
These programs,

4903
02:17:16,760 --> 02:17:18,080
this particular program,

4904
02:17:18,080 --> 02:17:20,100
we have about five to ten man

4905
02:17:20,100 --> 02:17:21,040
years in.

4906
02:17:21,120 --> 02:17:22,660
I'm unhappy to say

4907
02:17:22,660 --> 02:17:23,360
because it took a lot longer...

4908
02:17:23,360 --> 02:17:23,840
Jim Johnson.

4909
02:17:23,840 --> 02:17:24,890
...than I think there's a

4910
02:17:24,890 --> 02:17:25,620
thought would happen.

4911
02:17:25,760 --> 02:17:26,870
There's a tremendous amount of

4912
02:17:26,870 --> 02:17:27,460
research.

4913
02:17:27,920 --> 02:17:28,440
In order to build these

4914
02:17:28,440 --> 02:17:29,020
programs,

4915
02:17:29,120 --> 02:17:30,360
we have to go through all the

4916
02:17:30,360 --> 02:17:31,000
extra books

4917
02:17:31,000 --> 02:17:32,380
as well as the research area

4918
02:17:32,380 --> 02:17:33,380
and abstract them

4919
02:17:33,380 --> 02:17:34,180
and pull them down to the

4920
02:17:34,180 --> 02:17:34,600
things.

4921
02:17:34,920 --> 02:17:35,800
They're not...

4922
02:17:35,800 --> 02:17:37,410
We market them as something to

4923
02:17:37,410 --> 02:17:38,960
have...

4924
02:17:38,960 --> 02:17:40,000
to be useful to parents,

4925
02:17:40,160 --> 02:17:41,380
but we use a kind of tongue-in-cheek

4926
02:17:41,380 --> 02:17:42,000
attitude.

4927
02:17:42,320 --> 02:17:43,860
But I'm a former professor

4928
02:17:43,860 --> 02:17:45,000
and a former scientist,

4929
02:17:45,140 --> 02:17:46,220
and we don't put out anything

4930
02:17:46,220 --> 02:17:47,150
that we haven't done a good

4931
02:17:47,150 --> 02:17:47,960
deal of research on.

4932
02:17:48,020 --> 02:17:48,920
Jim, what is your opinion of

4933
02:17:48,920 --> 02:17:49,520
this program?

4934
02:17:49,780 --> 02:17:50,640
Is it valuable?

4935
02:17:51,200 --> 02:17:52,740
Well, I think it's a very

4936
02:17:52,740 --> 02:17:53,980
valuable tool

4937
02:17:53,980 --> 02:17:57,820
for non-serious problems.

4938
02:17:58,340 --> 02:17:59,740
The kind of work we...

4939
02:17:59,740 --> 02:18:00,860
I think it's great.

4940
02:18:01,820 --> 02:18:03,810
And I do a bit of computing

4941
02:18:03,810 --> 02:18:04,700
myself

4942
02:18:04,700 --> 02:18:05,700
every now and again.

4943
02:18:06,580 --> 02:18:10,380
And I do have a flappy disk

4944
02:18:10,380 --> 02:18:13,400
that has pictures of cars and

4945
02:18:13,400 --> 02:18:15,460
machinery on it.

4946
02:18:16,960 --> 02:18:18,040
I'll just write now.

4947
02:18:18,300 --> 02:18:19,770
Yeah, our program is used by

4948
02:18:19,770 --> 02:18:21,000
people in...

4949
02:18:21,000 --> 02:18:22,330
has a picture of a thousand

4950
02:18:22,330 --> 02:18:24,100
different types of machinery.

4951
02:18:25,160 --> 02:18:27,150
And they're all categorized

4952
02:18:27,150 --> 02:18:29,600
into different shapes,

4953
02:18:31,020 --> 02:18:34,100
different sections.

4954
02:18:34,340 --> 02:18:36,450
You've got aeronautical

4955
02:18:36,450 --> 02:18:37,500
vehicles,

4956
02:18:37,880 --> 02:18:40,060
and you have land-based and sea-based.

4957
02:18:40,120 --> 02:18:41,100
Kind of simple case, I suppose,

4958
02:18:41,100 --> 02:18:42,060
of an expert system.

4959
02:18:42,200 --> 02:18:42,970
You have a much more

4960
02:18:42,970 --> 02:18:44,170
sophisticated kind of AI

4961
02:18:44,170 --> 02:18:44,720
component

4962
02:18:44,720 --> 02:18:46,040
in your BIP program.

4963
02:18:46,180 --> 02:18:46,960
Tell us about that.

4964
02:18:46,960 --> 02:18:50,960
Well, our program deals with...

4965
02:18:50,960 --> 02:18:52,460
It's a fantastic flappy.

4966
02:18:52,960 --> 02:18:54,840
And it's the only flappy disk I

4967
02:18:54,840 --> 02:18:56,620
own, to be honest.

4968
02:18:56,740 --> 02:18:58,060
I don't really do much else

4969
02:18:58,060 --> 02:19:00,270
other than I put that into the

4970
02:19:00,270 --> 02:19:00,880
disk drive

4971
02:19:00,880 --> 02:19:02,560
and then belt away for a couple

4972
02:19:02,560 --> 02:19:03,080
of hours

4973
02:19:03,080 --> 02:19:04,010
just looking at different

4974
02:19:04,010 --> 02:19:04,300
pictures

4975
02:19:04,300 --> 02:19:06,070
of the cars and the planes and

4976
02:19:06,070 --> 02:19:06,940
the buses.

4977
02:19:07,120 --> 02:19:08,760
Whether or not the person does

4978
02:19:08,760 --> 02:19:10,560
better or improve...

4979
02:19:10,560 --> 02:19:11,830
Whether or not you're into that

4980
02:19:11,830 --> 02:19:12,740
sort of stuff or not,

4981
02:19:13,160 --> 02:19:15,530
it's still interesting to look

4982
02:19:15,530 --> 02:19:16,000
at.

4983
02:19:16,300 --> 02:19:19,940
We've seen many, many pictures

4984
02:19:19,940 --> 02:19:21,680
of the past few years

4985
02:19:21,680 --> 02:19:23,100
on the computer screen.

4986
02:19:23,180 --> 02:19:24,320
This kind of stuff, I mean,

4987
02:19:24,720 --> 02:19:25,860
is there a risk in somebody

4988
02:19:25,860 --> 02:19:27,330
getting the wrong kind of

4989
02:19:27,330 --> 02:19:27,800
advice

4990
02:19:27,800 --> 02:19:28,600
taking this stuff?

4991
02:19:28,960 --> 02:19:29,920
Is this a good thing?

4992
02:19:30,380 --> 02:19:32,090
Is this a bad thing for parents

4993
02:19:32,090 --> 02:19:33,100
to be using,

4994
02:19:33,220 --> 02:19:34,220
or is there a good side to it?

4995
02:19:34,300 --> 02:19:35,320
Too seriously, do you think?

4996
02:19:35,560 --> 02:19:37,380
Well, we spend, as I said,

4997
02:19:37,440 --> 02:19:38,690
we spend about a third of our

4998
02:19:38,690 --> 02:19:38,980
time

4999
02:19:38,980 --> 02:19:41,340
ensuring that the information

5000
02:19:41,340 --> 02:19:42,440
that goes in there is accurate.

5001
02:19:42,820 --> 02:19:44,000
Our programs won't run

5002
02:19:44,000 --> 02:19:45,420
unless it's got reliable, valid,

5003
02:19:45,420 --> 02:19:46,740
and accurate information.

5004
02:19:47,180 --> 02:19:49,050
And the reason for that is just

5005
02:19:49,050 --> 02:19:50,120
to minimize...

5006
02:19:50,120 --> 02:19:51,200
You're like Hall and Olds.

5007
02:19:51,280 --> 02:19:52,500
You're like Hall and Olds.

5008
02:19:53,000 --> 02:19:53,800
You know, a lot of people...

5009
02:19:53,800 --> 02:19:54,680
Maybe Olds.

5010
02:19:54,760 --> 02:19:55,900
Well, when they hear computer,

5011
02:19:56,020 --> 02:19:56,840
they say there might be a

5012
02:19:56,840 --> 02:19:57,300
danger.

5013
02:19:57,960 --> 02:19:59,240
I have four kids,

5014
02:19:59,340 --> 02:20:00,990
and I have four copies of Dr.

5015
02:20:00,990 --> 02:20:01,580
Spock.

5016
02:20:01,780 --> 02:20:03,260
Dr. Spock started out with

5017
02:20:03,260 --> 02:20:03,680
saying

5018
02:20:03,680 --> 02:20:05,140
that you should demand feed a

5019
02:20:05,140 --> 02:20:05,540
child,

5020
02:20:05,660 --> 02:20:07,400
and he said you should schedule

5021
02:20:07,400 --> 02:20:07,880
feed,

5022
02:20:08,080 --> 02:20:09,220
and then you should breast feed,

5023
02:20:09,340 --> 02:20:10,260
you should bottle feed.

5024
02:20:11,060 --> 02:20:12,320
Advice throughout the ages,

5025
02:20:12,640 --> 02:20:14,280
all of us have gone to bookstores

5026
02:20:14,280 --> 02:20:15,380
and have read because we need

5027
02:20:15,380 --> 02:20:16,120
this kind of thing.

5028
02:20:16,160 --> 02:20:16,960
Is there a danger?

5029
02:20:17,140 --> 02:20:17,760
I don't know.

5030
02:20:18,040 --> 02:20:19,520
We try and do the best we can.

5031
02:20:19,740 --> 02:20:21,710
We think because we use an

5032
02:20:21,710 --> 02:20:22,960
interactive mode

5033
02:20:22,960 --> 02:20:23,960
and we go to the research

5034
02:20:23,960 --> 02:20:25,170
and we try and tailor it down

5035
02:20:25,170 --> 02:20:26,080
to the situation,

5036
02:20:26,460 --> 02:20:28,000
we make it better than giving

5037
02:20:28,000 --> 02:20:29,540
the kind of generic advice

5038
02:20:29,540 --> 02:20:30,690
that you can give with the

5039
02:20:30,690 --> 02:20:31,760
Gutenberg methodology.

5040
02:20:31,760 --> 02:20:33,600
which is one general statement

5041
02:20:33,600 --> 02:20:34,460
that applies to everybody.

5042
02:20:34,560 --> 02:20:35,380
So I don't see a danger.

5043
02:20:35,500 --> 02:20:36,180
I see an improvement.

5044
02:20:36,300 --> 02:20:37,800
What do the professionals in

5045
02:20:37,800 --> 02:20:39,300
your field feel about this?

5046
02:20:39,780 --> 02:20:40,610
Do they think this is a threat

5047
02:20:40,610 --> 02:20:41,340
of some sort?

5048
02:20:41,600 --> 02:20:42,300
I think it's mixed.

5049
02:20:42,420 --> 02:20:43,850
I think the whole issue with

5050
02:20:43,850 --> 02:20:45,100
expert systems and AI

5051
02:20:45,100 --> 02:20:46,660
is once you develop a system

5052
02:20:46,660 --> 02:20:47,920
that in some way mimics an

5053
02:20:47,920 --> 02:20:48,440
expert,

5054
02:20:49,180 --> 02:20:50,120
he starts to get threatened.

5055
02:20:50,300 --> 02:20:52,220
You and I are the same way,

5056
02:20:52,340 --> 02:20:53,250
and so I think they're going to

5057
02:20:53,250 --> 02:20:53,680
say that,

5058
02:20:53,740 --> 02:20:54,640
and I think they're

5059
02:20:54,640 --> 02:20:55,620
controversial.

5060
02:20:55,920 --> 02:20:56,960
Gentlemen, we're out of time.

5061
02:20:57,060 --> 02:20:57,600
Thank you very much.

5062
02:20:57,600 --> 02:20:57,960
That's lovely.

5063
02:20:58,020 --> 02:20:59,450
Some psychological software is

5064
02:20:59,450 --> 02:20:59,920
being used

5065
02:20:59,920 --> 02:21:01,020
in conjunction with other

5066
02:21:01,020 --> 02:21:02,100
therapeutic techniques

5067
02:21:02,100 --> 02:21:03,260
like biofeedback.

5068
02:21:03,360 --> 02:21:04,450
Wendy Woods has a report on

5069
02:21:04,450 --> 02:21:04,880
that.

5070
02:21:06,620 --> 02:21:09,000
This may look like a video game.

5071
02:21:09,260 --> 02:21:10,500
It is in a way,

5072
02:21:10,720 --> 02:21:12,400
but I'm not using a joystick.

5073
02:21:12,980 --> 02:21:14,800
Instead, a headband with tiny

5074
02:21:14,800 --> 02:21:15,480
sensors

5075
02:21:15,480 --> 02:21:16,800
is connected to my head

5076
02:21:16,800 --> 02:21:17,900
with which I'm trying to

5077
02:21:17,900 --> 02:21:19,050
control the action on the

5078
02:21:19,050 --> 02:21:19,620
screen.

5079
02:21:20,020 --> 02:21:21,620
This is the office of Dr.

5080
02:21:21,620 --> 02:21:23,160
George Fuller Von Bose.

5081
02:21:24,680 --> 02:21:25,160
Psychologist.

5082
02:21:28,360 --> 02:21:29,020
What the fuck is going on in

5083
02:21:29,020 --> 02:21:30,920
this gaff?

5084
02:21:32,200 --> 02:21:33,560
Lovely slice of ham.

5085
02:21:33,740 --> 02:21:35,520
Thank you very much, Zeebs23.

5086
02:21:36,460 --> 02:21:37,850
They sit you down in one of

5087
02:21:37,850 --> 02:21:39,700
those egg chairs,

5088
02:21:40,180 --> 02:21:41,360
hollowed out egg chairs,

5089
02:21:41,540 --> 02:21:42,850
and attach a load of fucking

5090
02:21:42,850 --> 02:21:43,560
cables to you

5091
02:21:43,560 --> 02:21:44,900
and charge you a load of money

5092
02:21:44,900 --> 02:21:45,780
for it, maybe.

5093
02:21:45,780 --> 02:21:46,220
Screen.

5094
02:21:46,760 --> 02:21:48,340
This is the office of Dr.

5095
02:21:48,340 --> 02:21:49,860
George Fuller Von Bose.

5096
02:21:50,720 --> 02:21:53,200
George Fuller Von Bose.

5097
02:21:54,080 --> 02:21:55,840
The egg's boson himself.

5098
02:21:56,100 --> 02:21:57,460
A psychologist who uses a

5099
02:21:57,460 --> 02:21:59,780
simple Commodore 64 computer

5100
02:21:59,780 --> 02:22:01,520
equipped with an interface box

5101
02:22:01,520 --> 02:22:02,340
and...

5102
02:22:02,340 --> 02:22:04,280
Interface box.

5103
02:22:05,420 --> 02:22:08,410
This is like Pat's fucking ionizer

5104
02:22:08,410 --> 02:22:08,880
box

5105
02:22:08,880 --> 02:22:10,200
inside the...

5106
02:22:10,200 --> 02:22:12,640
Pat's magic box.

5107
02:22:13,800 --> 02:22:15,000
Inside that fucking Fallout

5108
02:22:15,000 --> 02:22:16,020
shelter.

5109
02:22:16,020 --> 02:22:21,780
The neutron hatch.

5110
02:22:22,960 --> 02:22:23,600
Pat's...

5111
02:22:23,600 --> 02:22:25,830
Pat's amazing technical or

5112
02:22:25,830 --> 02:22:27,320
neutron hatch.

5113
02:22:28,240 --> 02:22:29,680
The Patbox 5000.

5114
02:22:32,060 --> 02:22:35,280
I bet he has a pet weasel.

5115
02:22:39,660 --> 02:22:40,760
Look at that.

5116
02:22:41,420 --> 02:22:42,200
What the fuck?

5117
02:22:42,560 --> 02:22:44,140
What's the readings being given

5118
02:22:44,140 --> 02:22:46,340
through a Commodore 64 like?

5119
02:22:47,100 --> 02:22:48,170
I don't think it's going to be

5120
02:22:48,170 --> 02:22:49,240
that...

5121
02:22:50,840 --> 02:22:51,300
Good.

5122
02:22:52,260 --> 02:22:53,430
You know, I think the

5123
02:22:53,430 --> 02:22:55,820
technology at the time,

5124
02:22:56,880 --> 02:22:57,520
at the cutting edge of this

5125
02:22:57,520 --> 02:22:58,600
sort of stuff,

5126
02:22:58,600 --> 02:23:00,770
that was probably being used in

5127
02:23:00,770 --> 02:23:02,420
hospitals and whatnot,

5128
02:23:02,820 --> 02:23:04,660
didn't run on a Commodore.

5129
02:23:05,400 --> 02:23:06,930
Special software as one of the

5130
02:23:06,930 --> 02:23:09,520
tools in his biofeedback work.

5131
02:23:10,160 --> 02:23:11,890
The new computerized biofeedback

5132
02:23:11,890 --> 02:23:12,840
software.

5133
02:23:13,080 --> 02:23:14,860
Dr. GF Von Bose.

5134
02:23:15,420 --> 02:23:16,240
Fuck me.

5135
02:23:16,520 --> 02:23:17,960
Biofeedback Institute.

5136
02:23:18,700 --> 02:23:19,960
This is Gustav Friedman Von

5137
02:23:19,960 --> 02:23:20,620
Bose.

5138
02:23:21,440 --> 02:23:22,910
That's a fucking name and a

5139
02:23:22,910 --> 02:23:23,440
half.

5140
02:23:26,200 --> 02:23:26,480
I just want to hear what the

5141
02:23:26,480 --> 02:23:28,240
first name was again.

5142
02:23:28,320 --> 02:23:28,600
Sorry.

5143
02:23:29,240 --> 02:23:30,170
I'm trying to control the

5144
02:23:30,170 --> 02:23:31,640
action on the screen.

5145
02:23:32,420 --> 02:23:33,400
This is the office of Dr.

5146
02:23:33,400 --> 02:23:35,140
George Fuller Von Bose,

5147
02:23:35,440 --> 02:23:36,660
a psychologist who uses a

5148
02:23:36,660 --> 02:23:38,440
simple Commodore...

5149
02:23:38,440 --> 02:23:40,260
Who does she look like?

5150
02:23:40,260 --> 02:23:42,060
Dr. George Fuller Von Bose,

5151
02:23:42,060 --> 02:23:48,760
John McEnroe.

5152
02:23:48,760 --> 02:23:50,660
...commodor 64 computer,

5153
02:23:51,020 --> 02:23:51,560
his bio...

5154
02:23:51,560 --> 02:23:53,810
...is now developed in such a

5155
02:23:53,810 --> 02:23:54,060
way

5156
02:23:54,060 --> 02:23:56,180
that it can be used with most

5157
02:23:56,180 --> 02:23:56,700
people

5158
02:23:56,700 --> 02:23:57,600
with psychophysiologic

5159
02:23:57,600 --> 02:23:58,160
disorders.

5160
02:23:59,040 --> 02:24:00,510
One of the ways that it can be

5161
02:24:00,510 --> 02:24:00,960
used

5162
02:24:00,960 --> 02:24:03,490
is to have the person learn by

5163
02:24:03,490 --> 02:24:05,060
watching videos...

5164
02:24:09,060 --> 02:24:09,820
...screen,

5165
02:24:10,560 --> 02:24:11,700
where their heart rate, their

5166
02:24:11,700 --> 02:24:12,360
blood pressure,

5167
02:24:12,360 --> 02:24:14,180
their brain waves, or muscle

5168
02:24:14,180 --> 02:24:14,760
tension is,

5169
02:24:15,200 --> 02:24:17,220
and being able to vary the

5170
02:24:17,220 --> 02:24:19,160
meters as seen on the screen

5171
02:24:19,160 --> 02:24:21,720
or the various motivational

5172
02:24:21,720 --> 02:24:24,780
graphics that's on the screen.

5173
02:24:25,240 --> 02:24:26,180
In this program,

5174
02:24:26,520 --> 02:24:27,870
the patient tries to lower the

5175
02:24:27,870 --> 02:24:29,350
balloon on the screen by

5176
02:24:29,350 --> 02:24:30,060
relaxing.

5177
02:24:30,680 --> 02:24:31,790
This, by the way, is called

5178
02:24:31,790 --> 02:24:32,360
Relax,

5179
02:24:32,800 --> 02:24:34,220
and it's from Synapse Software.

5180
02:24:34,480 --> 02:24:34,860
What the...

5181
02:24:34,860 --> 02:24:36,490
The program also includes a

5182
02:24:36,490 --> 02:24:37,420
kaleidoscope,

5183
02:24:37,660 --> 02:24:39,300
which increases in complexity

5184
02:24:39,300 --> 02:24:39,980
and beauty

5185
02:24:39,980 --> 02:24:41,510
as the patient becomes more at

5186
02:24:41,510 --> 02:24:41,980
ease.

5187
02:24:43,820 --> 02:24:44,740
Tomas O'Shlog, thank you very

5188
02:24:44,740 --> 02:24:45,580
much.

5189
02:24:45,580 --> 02:24:46,580
And the Relax Graph.

5190
02:24:47,360 --> 02:24:48,560
The Relax Graph.

5191
02:24:48,980 --> 02:24:49,840
Fucking hell.

5192
02:24:51,980 --> 02:24:52,580
This thing was...

5193
02:24:52,580 --> 02:24:54,420
And beauty as the patient

5194
02:24:54,420 --> 02:24:55,720
becomes more at ease.

5195
02:24:55,840 --> 02:24:56,240
Scope.

5196
02:24:56,500 --> 02:24:57,260
And it's from...

5197
02:24:57,260 --> 02:24:58,680
When I first saw this,

5198
02:24:58,760 --> 02:24:59,590
I thought, oh, it's going to be

5199
02:24:59,590 --> 02:25:00,040
another thing

5200
02:25:00,040 --> 02:25:00,700
where they're fucking

5201
02:25:00,700 --> 02:25:01,580
psychologically...

5202
02:25:02,580 --> 02:25:04,250
It's for, I don't know, parents

5203
02:25:04,250 --> 02:25:05,160
and kids or something,

5204
02:25:05,260 --> 02:25:05,820
but it's...

5205
02:25:05,820 --> 02:25:06,980
This is for grown adults.

5206
02:25:07,100 --> 02:25:08,880
They actually had grown adults

5207
02:25:08,880 --> 02:25:10,680
set inside a hollowed out egg

5208
02:25:10,680 --> 02:25:12,060
and strapped wires to them

5209
02:25:12,060 --> 02:25:13,840
and then made them look at this.

5210
02:25:17,760 --> 02:25:17,940
No wonder that was her reaction

5211
02:25:17,940 --> 02:25:20,580
when she was in the chair.

5212
02:25:21,280 --> 02:25:22,280
That was the reaction.

5213
02:25:22,280 --> 02:25:23,280
By watching...

5214
02:25:23,280 --> 02:25:28,880
The video screen...

5215
02:25:28,880 --> 02:25:29,560
Being...

5216
02:25:29,560 --> 02:25:31,760
By the way, it's a kaleidoscope,

5217
02:25:32,000 --> 02:25:33,630
which increases in complexity

5218
02:25:33,630 --> 02:25:34,300
and beauty

5219
02:25:34,300 --> 02:25:35,850
as the patient becomes more at

5220
02:25:35,850 --> 02:25:36,320
ease.

5221
02:25:36,700 --> 02:25:38,680
And the Relax Graph,

5222
02:25:38,960 --> 02:25:40,360
which more scientifically shows

5223
02:25:40,360 --> 02:25:41,640
a patient's progress.

5224
02:25:42,320 --> 02:25:42,720
Still another program at the

5225
02:25:42,720 --> 02:25:43,880
doctor's disposal...

5226
02:25:43,880 --> 02:25:44,600
Mental.

5227
02:25:44,600 --> 02:25:47,500
Absolutely mental stuff.

5228
02:25:51,500 --> 02:25:52,390
There's a lot of fucking snake

5229
02:25:52,390 --> 02:25:54,780
oil being sold

5230
02:25:54,780 --> 02:25:56,660
back in this optimistic era of

5231
02:25:56,660 --> 02:25:58,940
the computer as well, you know?

5232
02:26:09,300 --> 02:26:11,480
There's a lot of snake oil.

5233
02:26:11,520 --> 02:26:12,570
There was money to be made, you

5234
02:26:12,570 --> 02:26:12,920
know?

5235
02:26:14,000 --> 02:26:15,750
Your man saw that he probably

5236
02:26:15,750 --> 02:26:16,300
had sons

5237
02:26:16,300 --> 02:26:16,900
and it was like,

5238
02:26:17,300 --> 02:26:18,950
they had a computer, a Commodore

5239
02:26:18,950 --> 02:26:19,520
64,

5240
02:26:19,700 --> 02:26:20,160
and he was like,

5241
02:26:20,640 --> 02:26:21,870
there's a way I can just

5242
02:26:21,870 --> 02:26:24,160
leverage this computer stuff

5243
02:26:24,160 --> 02:26:26,320
and I've got a PhD

5244
02:26:26,320 --> 02:26:29,640
and there's people out there

5245
02:26:29,640 --> 02:26:31,030
that don't want to fucking pay

5246
02:26:31,030 --> 02:26:31,680
a lot of money

5247
02:26:31,680 --> 02:26:32,800
for this sort of stuff

5248
02:26:32,800 --> 02:26:35,640
and let's just do this.

5249
02:26:36,300 --> 02:26:38,170
And he came up with the psych

5250
02:26:38,170 --> 02:26:38,980
graph,

5251
02:26:39,640 --> 02:26:40,860
that fucking kaleidoscopic

5252
02:26:40,860 --> 02:26:42,380
weird trip out image,

5253
02:26:42,880 --> 02:26:43,900
the sun face,

5254
02:26:44,440 --> 02:26:45,520
and then he charged people an

5255
02:26:45,520 --> 02:26:46,260
arm and a leg

5256
02:26:46,260 --> 02:26:47,420
just to sit in a hollowed out

5257
02:26:47,420 --> 02:26:47,780
egg.

5258
02:26:47,880 --> 02:26:49,110
The hollowed out egg was a big

5259
02:26:49,110 --> 02:26:49,620
part of it,

5260
02:26:49,700 --> 02:26:50,120
like, you know?

5261
02:26:50,480 --> 02:26:51,460
People saw that,

5262
02:26:52,060 --> 02:26:52,780
that they were going to sit in

5263
02:26:52,780 --> 02:26:53,200
that.

5264
02:26:53,320 --> 02:26:53,780
They were like,

5265
02:26:53,860 --> 02:26:55,520
yes, this was worth the $250.

5266
02:26:56,360 --> 02:26:56,680
Me?

5267
02:26:57,020 --> 02:26:58,670
Well, I look pretty relaxed,

5268
02:26:58,670 --> 02:26:59,180
don't I?

5269
02:26:59,180 --> 02:27:01,040
For the Computer Chronicles,

5270
02:27:01,360 --> 02:27:02,080
I'm Wendy Woods.

5271
02:27:03,080 --> 02:27:04,260
Hope she's okay.

5272
02:27:04,360 --> 02:27:05,710
Hope she came back all right

5273
02:27:05,710 --> 02:27:06,460
from that.

5274
02:27:06,980 --> 02:27:07,780
Ivan and Steph,

5275
02:27:07,880 --> 02:27:09,420
thank you very, very much for

5276
02:27:09,420 --> 02:27:09,840
your tip.

5277
02:27:10,620 --> 02:27:11,400
Very kind of you.

5278
02:27:12,920 --> 02:27:14,120
What the fuck was that?

5279
02:27:14,200 --> 02:27:14,660
There, look.

5280
02:27:16,660 --> 02:27:17,090
Keep your eye on the right-hand

5281
02:27:17,090 --> 02:27:19,040
side of the screen here.

5282
02:27:19,100 --> 02:27:20,340
Maybe Stu said something,

5283
02:27:20,460 --> 02:27:22,960
but it elicited a very strange

5284
02:27:22,960 --> 02:27:25,100
body movement from your man.

5285
02:27:28,720 --> 02:27:29,600
Watch this here.

5286
02:27:29,840 --> 02:27:30,720
Thank you very much, sir.

5287
02:27:30,840 --> 02:27:32,080
Get tickled.

5288
02:27:32,080 --> 02:27:32,160
Get tickled.

5289
02:27:33,020 --> 02:27:35,120
Chief Irons Diary, day five.

5290
02:27:35,280 --> 02:27:36,730
I found the Spencer Manor

5291
02:27:36,730 --> 02:27:38,560
security guard strapped into

5292
02:27:38,560 --> 02:27:39,300
the egg chair,

5293
02:27:39,400 --> 02:27:40,570
watching the relaxed graph

5294
02:27:40,570 --> 02:27:41,040
again.

5295
02:27:41,680 --> 02:27:43,300
I hope there are no further

5296
02:27:43,300 --> 02:27:45,420
incidents at the lab.

5297
02:27:45,600 --> 02:27:46,380
Thank you very much.

5298
02:27:49,520 --> 02:27:51,500
What did Stu say there?

5299
02:27:52,620 --> 02:27:53,480
And listen,

5300
02:27:53,680 --> 02:27:55,350
if we repeat it a few times

5301
02:27:55,350 --> 02:27:56,380
with the music,

5302
02:27:56,380 --> 02:27:58,640
it fits.

5303
02:27:58,780 --> 02:27:59,440
It's in sync.

5304
02:27:59,440 --> 02:28:10,730
You can even see Stu is a bit

5305
02:28:10,730 --> 02:28:19,460
kind of embarrassed

5306
02:28:19,460 --> 02:28:20,750
because he knows that they're

5307
02:28:20,750 --> 02:28:21,560
back on camera.

5308
02:28:22,460 --> 02:28:24,160
So I think Stu moves his hand

5309
02:28:24,160 --> 02:28:25,220
over to him

5310
02:28:25,220 --> 02:28:26,460
as if to say,

5311
02:28:26,720 --> 02:28:27,340
knock it off now.

5312
02:28:27,420 --> 02:28:27,960
We're back on.

5313
02:28:28,020 --> 02:28:28,460
We're back on.

5314
02:28:28,460 --> 02:28:58,440
We're back on.

5315
02:28:58,440 --> 02:29:00,120
He loves spreading sheets,

5316
02:29:00,220 --> 02:29:00,740
that buck.

5317
02:29:08,040 --> 02:29:08,560
Good.

5318
02:29:08,720 --> 02:29:09,400
Stu as well.

5319
02:29:09,480 --> 02:29:10,620
Stu's laughing as well.

5320
02:29:11,960 --> 02:29:13,850
I bet they were saying some

5321
02:29:13,850 --> 02:29:15,400
fucking dodgy shite.

5322
02:29:32,220 --> 02:29:33,340
I'm Wendy Woods.

5323
02:29:33,340 --> 02:29:33,380
I'm Wendy Woods.

5324
02:29:33,380 --> 02:29:43,230
joining us now in the studio

5325
02:29:43,230 --> 02:29:51,900
are Dr. Roger Gould, a

5326
02:29:51,900 --> 02:29:52,600
psychiatrist.

5327
02:29:52,980 --> 02:29:54,020
Roger Gould.

5328
02:29:54,500 --> 02:29:55,760
I thought he said Gould.

5329
02:29:55,760 --> 02:29:56,980
President of Interactive Health

5330
02:29:56,980 --> 02:29:57,460
Systems.

5331
02:29:57,860 --> 02:29:59,310
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5332
02:29:59,310 --> 02:29:59,860
Zilberg.

5333
02:29:59,860 --> 02:29:59,860
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5334
02:29:59,860 --> 02:29:59,860
Zilberg.

5335
02:29:59,860 --> 02:29:59,860
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5336
02:29:59,860 --> 02:29:59,860
Zilberg.

5337
02:29:59,860 --> 02:29:59,860
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5338
02:29:59,860 --> 02:29:59,860
Zilberg.

5339
02:29:59,860 --> 02:30:02,720
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5340
02:30:02,720 --> 02:30:03,860
Zilberg.

5341
02:30:03,860 --> 02:30:05,460
It gets even fucking better.

5342
02:30:05,460 --> 02:30:07,020
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5343
02:30:07,020 --> 02:30:07,640
Zilberg.

5344
02:30:07,640 --> 02:30:08,640
joining us is Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5345
02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:08,640
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5346
02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:08,640
Zilberg.

5347
02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:08,640
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5348
02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:08,640
Zilberg.

5349
02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:08,640
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5350
02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:08,640
Zilberg.

5351
02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:08,640
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5352
02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:08,640
Zilberg.

5353
02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:08,640
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5354
02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:08,640
Zilberg.

5355
02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:08,640
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5356
02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:08,640
Zilberg.

5357
02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:08,640
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5358
02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:08,640
Zilberg.

5359
02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:09,330
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5360
02:30:09,330 --> 02:30:09,640
Zilberg.

5361
02:30:09,640 --> 02:30:10,320
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5362
02:30:10,320 --> 02:30:10,640
Zilberg.

5363
02:30:10,640 --> 02:30:11,330
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5364
02:30:11,330 --> 02:30:11,640
Zilberg.

5365
02:30:11,640 --> 02:30:12,330
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5366
02:30:12,330 --> 02:30:12,640
Zilberg.

5367
02:30:12,640 --> 02:30:13,330
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5368
02:30:13,330 --> 02:30:13,640
Zilberg.

5369
02:30:13,640 --> 02:30:14,350
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5370
02:30:14,350 --> 02:30:14,640
Zilberg.

5371
02:30:14,640 --> 02:30:15,330
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5372
02:30:15,330 --> 02:30:15,640
Zilberg.

5373
02:30:15,640 --> 02:30:16,350
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5374
02:30:16,350 --> 02:30:16,640
Zilberg.

5375
02:30:16,640 --> 02:30:17,330
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5376
02:30:17,330 --> 02:30:17,640
Zilberg.

5377
02:30:17,640 --> 02:30:18,330
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5378
02:30:18,330 --> 02:30:18,640
Zilberg.

5379
02:30:18,640 --> 02:30:19,330
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5380
02:30:19,330 --> 02:30:19,640
Zilberg.

5381
02:30:19,640 --> 02:30:20,350
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5382
02:30:20,350 --> 02:30:20,640
Zilberg.

5383
02:30:20,640 --> 02:30:21,350
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5384
02:30:21,350 --> 02:30:21,640
Zilberg.

5385
02:30:21,640 --> 02:30:22,330
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5386
02:30:22,330 --> 02:30:22,640
Zilberg.

5387
02:30:22,640 --> 02:30:23,330
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5388
02:30:23,330 --> 02:30:23,640
Zilberg.

5389
02:30:23,640 --> 02:30:24,330
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5390
02:30:24,330 --> 02:30:24,640
Zilberg.

5391
02:30:24,640 --> 02:30:25,330
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5392
02:30:25,330 --> 02:30:25,640
Zilberg.

5393
02:30:25,640 --> 02:30:26,640
Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5394
02:30:26,640 --> 02:30:27,330
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5395
02:30:27,330 --> 02:30:27,640
Zilberg.

5396
02:30:27,640 --> 02:30:28,330
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5397
02:30:28,330 --> 02:30:28,640
Zilberg.

5398
02:30:28,640 --> 02:30:29,330
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5399
02:30:29,330 --> 02:30:29,640
Zilberg.

5400
02:30:29,640 --> 02:30:30,350
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5401
02:30:30,350 --> 02:30:30,640
Zilberg.

5402
02:30:30,640 --> 02:30:31,330
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5403
02:30:31,330 --> 02:30:31,640
Zilberg.

5404
02:30:31,640 --> 02:30:32,330
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5405
02:30:32,330 --> 02:30:32,640
Zilberg.

5406
02:30:32,640 --> 02:30:33,350
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5407
02:30:33,350 --> 02:30:33,640
Zilberg.

5408
02:30:33,640 --> 02:30:34,330
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5409
02:30:34,330 --> 02:30:34,640
Zilberg.

5410
02:30:34,640 --> 02:30:35,330
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5411
02:30:35,330 --> 02:30:35,640
Zilberg.

5412
02:30:35,640 --> 02:30:36,320
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5413
02:30:36,320 --> 02:30:36,640
Zilberg.

5414
02:30:36,640 --> 02:30:37,330
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5415
02:30:37,330 --> 02:30:37,640
Zilberg.

5416
02:30:37,640 --> 02:30:38,350
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5417
02:30:38,350 --> 02:30:38,640
Zilberg.

5418
02:30:38,640 --> 02:30:39,330
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5419
02:30:39,330 --> 02:30:39,640
Zilberg.

5420
02:30:39,640 --> 02:30:40,330
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5421
02:30:40,330 --> 02:30:40,640
Zilberg.

5422
02:30:40,640 --> 02:30:41,330
And also with us is Dr. Bernie

5423
02:30:41,330 --> 02:30:41,640
Zilberg.

5424
02:30:41,640 --> 02:30:42,640
Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5425
02:30:42,640 --> 02:30:43,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5426
02:30:43,640 --> 02:30:44,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5427
02:30:44,640 --> 02:30:45,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5428
02:30:45,640 --> 02:30:46,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5429
02:30:46,640 --> 02:30:47,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5430
02:30:47,640 --> 02:30:48,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5431
02:30:48,640 --> 02:30:49,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5432
02:30:49,640 --> 02:30:50,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5433
02:30:50,640 --> 02:30:51,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5434
02:30:51,640 --> 02:30:52,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5435
02:30:52,640 --> 02:30:53,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5436
02:30:53,640 --> 02:30:54,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5437
02:30:54,640 --> 02:30:55,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5438
02:30:55,640 --> 02:30:56,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5439
02:30:56,640 --> 02:30:57,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5440
02:30:57,640 --> 02:30:58,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5441
02:30:58,640 --> 02:30:59,640
Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5442
02:30:59,640 --> 02:31:00,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5443
02:31:00,640 --> 02:31:01,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5444
02:31:01,640 --> 02:31:02,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5445
02:31:02,640 --> 02:31:03,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5446
02:31:03,640 --> 02:31:04,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5447
02:31:04,640 --> 02:31:05,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5448
02:31:05,640 --> 02:31:06,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5449
02:31:06,640 --> 02:31:07,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5450
02:31:07,640 --> 02:31:08,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5451
02:31:08,640 --> 02:31:09,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5452
02:31:09,640 --> 02:31:10,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5453
02:31:10,640 --> 02:31:11,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5454
02:31:11,640 --> 02:31:12,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5455
02:31:12,640 --> 02:31:13,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5456
02:31:13,640 --> 02:31:14,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5457
02:31:14,640 --> 02:31:15,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5458
02:31:15,640 --> 02:31:16,640
Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5459
02:31:16,640 --> 02:31:17,640
And also with us Dr. Bernie Zilberg.

5460
02:31:17,640 --> 02:31:18,200
I don't know what you do with

5461
02:31:18,200 --> 02:31:18,640
stuff like that.

5462
02:31:18,640 --> 02:31:20,000
I think if parents view that as

5463
02:31:20,000 --> 02:31:20,640
a gimmick.

5464
02:31:20,640 --> 02:31:21,640
A toy.

5465
02:31:21,640 --> 02:31:22,640
Something to play with.

5466
02:31:22,640 --> 02:31:23,640
See what's going on.

5467
02:31:23,640 --> 02:31:24,640
You're saying there no judge.

5468
02:31:24,640 --> 02:31:25,860
I mean do you reckon Israel is

5469
02:31:25,860 --> 02:31:27,640
a silent back of Computer Chronicles.

5470
02:31:27,640 --> 02:31:30,060
I think there was episodes

5471
02:31:30,060 --> 02:31:32,640
called High Tech Israel.

5472
02:31:32,640 --> 02:31:34,640
We might have watched one.

5473
02:31:34,640 --> 02:31:36,000
There might even be another one

5474
02:31:36,000 --> 02:31:36,640
unwatched.

5475
02:31:36,640 --> 02:31:38,250
Where she went to Israel to see

5476
02:31:38,250 --> 02:31:39,640
all the emerging tech.

5477
02:31:39,640 --> 02:31:41,910
Probably hand and glove with

5478
02:31:41,910 --> 02:31:43,640
the states anyway.

5479
02:31:43,640 --> 02:31:44,570
What I'm afraid is some people

5480
02:31:44,570 --> 02:31:45,640
might take it real seriously.

5481
02:31:45,640 --> 02:31:47,460
Because after all it's on the

5482
02:31:47,460 --> 02:31:49,640
box from which truth emanates.

5483
02:31:49,640 --> 02:31:50,640
I think that's dangerous.

5484
02:31:50,640 --> 02:31:52,230
On the other hand Dr. Gardner's

5485
02:31:52,230 --> 02:31:53,420
basically what he has is a

5486
02:31:53,420 --> 02:31:54,850
database for diagnostics and

5487
02:31:54,850 --> 02:31:55,640
treatment.

5488
02:31:55,640 --> 02:31:56,390
I think that has some

5489
02:31:56,390 --> 02:31:57,640
interesting possibilities.

5490
02:31:57,640 --> 02:31:58,640
We don't know.

5491
02:31:58,640 --> 02:32:00,640
We won't know until it's tested.

5492
02:32:00,640 --> 02:32:01,700
But certainly he has a lot of

5493
02:32:01,700 --> 02:32:02,640
variables in there.

5494
02:32:02,640 --> 02:32:04,000
And more than any therapist or

5495
02:32:04,000 --> 02:32:05,360
any group of therapists could

5496
02:32:05,360 --> 02:32:06,640
keep in mind at any time.

5497
02:32:06,640 --> 02:32:07,800
I'd like to see some research

5498
02:32:07,800 --> 02:32:08,640
on how good it is.

5499
02:32:08,640 --> 02:32:10,230
Roger you have a system which

5500
02:32:10,230 --> 02:32:11,960
is used in a slightly different

5501
02:32:11,960 --> 02:32:13,640
setting in group therapy.

5502
02:32:13,640 --> 02:32:15,160
And maybe you could set up for

5503
02:32:15,160 --> 02:32:16,630
us the scenario in which you

5504
02:32:16,630 --> 02:32:18,010
would use this particular

5505
02:32:18,010 --> 02:32:18,640
system.

5506
02:32:18,640 --> 02:32:19,640
Sure.

5507
02:32:19,640 --> 02:32:21,090
Most people come to a therapist

5508
02:32:21,090 --> 02:32:22,340
for short term work because

5509
02:32:22,340 --> 02:32:23,640
they have some problem.

5510
02:32:23,640 --> 02:32:24,270
They might also have some

5511
02:32:24,270 --> 02:32:24,640
symptoms.

5512
02:32:24,640 --> 02:32:25,950
But the symptoms are secondary

5513
02:32:25,950 --> 02:32:26,640
to a problem.

5514
02:32:26,640 --> 02:32:27,930
And it's easy to identify what

5515
02:32:27,930 --> 02:32:28,640
a problem is.

5516
02:32:28,640 --> 02:32:29,910
A problem is that when you're

5517
02:32:29,910 --> 02:32:31,640
in some state of dissatisfaction.

5518
02:32:31,640 --> 02:32:33,270
And you're not sure what the

5519
02:32:33,270 --> 02:32:35,110
right thing to do is so you don't

5520
02:32:35,110 --> 02:32:35,640
act.

5521
02:32:35,640 --> 02:32:37,240
Once you're sure what the right

5522
02:32:37,240 --> 02:32:38,700
thing to do is and you act upon

5523
02:32:38,700 --> 02:32:39,920
it then you dissolve the

5524
02:32:39,920 --> 02:32:40,640
problem.

5525
02:32:40,640 --> 02:32:41,640
No.

5526
02:32:41,640 --> 02:32:43,440
So we have a program that's

5527
02:32:43,440 --> 02:32:45,510
organized so that you can take

5528
02:32:45,510 --> 02:32:47,420
any problem and begin to ask

5529
02:32:47,420 --> 02:32:48,640
the question,

5530
02:32:48,640 --> 02:32:49,870
what might I do better or

5531
02:32:49,870 --> 02:32:50,640
different?

5532
02:32:50,640 --> 02:32:52,870
And is that the right thing for

5533
02:32:52,870 --> 02:32:53,640
me to do?

5534
02:32:53,640 --> 02:32:55,200
And when you ask, answer is the

5535
02:32:55,200 --> 02:32:56,880
right thing for me to do, there's

5536
02:32:56,880 --> 02:32:57,640
two levels.

5537
02:32:57,640 --> 02:32:59,640
One is that the right choice.

5538
02:32:59,640 --> 02:33:00,640
Do I really want to do that?

5539
02:33:00,640 --> 02:33:02,640
Is that good for me to do?

5540
02:33:02,640 --> 02:33:04,160
And the second is, is it right

5541
02:33:04,160 --> 02:33:05,640
for me psychologically?

5542
02:33:05,640 --> 02:33:07,900
That is, given my past learning,

5543
02:33:07,900 --> 02:33:09,380
can I afford to change my

5544
02:33:09,380 --> 02:33:11,640
behavior in a new and novel way?

5545
02:33:11,640 --> 02:33:12,640
Okay.

5546
02:33:12,640 --> 02:33:13,670
What's the therapeutic setting

5547
02:33:13,670 --> 02:33:14,640
for how you would use this?

5548
02:33:14,640 --> 02:33:16,090
A person comes into either a

5549
02:33:16,090 --> 02:33:17,420
mental health clinic or a

5550
02:33:17,420 --> 02:33:19,150
psychiatrist or a psychologist

5551
02:33:19,150 --> 02:33:19,640
office,

5552
02:33:19,640 --> 02:33:21,850
or people who are referred to

5553
02:33:21,850 --> 02:33:24,060
in the plan that's used right

5554
02:33:24,060 --> 02:33:25,900
now as part of a wellness

5555
02:33:25,900 --> 02:33:26,640
program

5556
02:33:26,640 --> 02:33:28,110
in which they identify some

5557
02:33:28,110 --> 02:33:29,690
problems in living they want to

5558
02:33:29,690 --> 02:33:30,640
help sort out.

5559
02:33:30,640 --> 02:33:32,160
In the room will be ten

5560
02:33:32,160 --> 02:33:34,690
computers, one therapist, and

5561
02:33:34,690 --> 02:33:35,640
ten...

5562
02:33:35,640 --> 02:33:37,910
Duncan says this guy is a ball

5563
02:33:37,910 --> 02:33:39,640
of seething anger.

5564
02:33:39,640 --> 02:33:41,910
I kind of get the feeling that

5565
02:33:41,910 --> 02:33:44,280
he is a very serious man as

5566
02:33:44,280 --> 02:33:44,640
well.

5567
02:33:44,640 --> 02:33:46,440
In the room will be ten

5568
02:33:46,440 --> 02:33:49,210
computers, one therapist, and

5569
02:33:49,210 --> 02:33:50,640
ten patients.

5570
02:33:50,640 --> 02:33:53,110
They will start out by saying,

5571
02:33:53,110 --> 02:33:55,650
there'll be an introduction,

5572
02:33:55,650 --> 02:33:56,640
the computer will begin,

5573
02:33:56,640 --> 02:33:58,500
then ask them some questions,

5574
02:33:58,500 --> 02:33:59,870
each will have their own

5575
02:33:59,870 --> 02:34:00,640
computer,

5576
02:34:00,640 --> 02:34:01,990
and basically, what's going on

5577
02:34:01,990 --> 02:34:03,290
in your life that brought you

5578
02:34:03,290 --> 02:34:03,640
here?

5579
02:34:03,640 --> 02:34:05,330
And then from there they begin

5580
02:34:05,330 --> 02:34:07,090
to prioritize down, they get a

5581
02:34:07,090 --> 02:34:07,640
worksheet,

5582
02:34:07,640 --> 02:34:09,650
and end up with a very specific

5583
02:34:09,650 --> 02:34:11,440
dissatisfaction in their

5584
02:34:11,440 --> 02:34:13,640
particular life situation.

5585
02:34:13,640 --> 02:34:14,340
Okay, you've got your program

5586
02:34:14,340 --> 02:34:14,640
up here.

5587
02:34:14,640 --> 02:34:16,120
Show us a couple of the screens

5588
02:34:16,120 --> 02:34:17,640
that the patient might use.

5589
02:34:17,640 --> 02:34:18,640
Sure.

5590
02:34:18,640 --> 02:34:19,530
Once the person has, this is

5591
02:34:19,530 --> 02:34:20,640
about an hour into the program,

5592
02:34:20,640 --> 02:34:21,900
it's a two-hour session for the

5593
02:34:21,900 --> 02:34:23,220
first session, there's five of

5594
02:34:23,220 --> 02:34:23,640
them.

5595
02:34:23,640 --> 02:34:25,550
Once he has that, the next

5596
02:34:25,550 --> 02:34:27,640
question that comes up is,

5597
02:34:27,640 --> 02:34:29,120
what can you do differently

5598
02:34:29,120 --> 02:34:30,640
than you're doing right now

5599
02:34:30,640 --> 02:34:32,640
that might address this problem

5600
02:34:32,640 --> 02:34:34,640
in a way that's satisfactory?

5601
02:34:34,640 --> 02:34:36,860
And we've skipped a number of

5602
02:34:36,860 --> 02:34:37,640
menus.

5603
02:34:37,640 --> 02:34:38,730
The first one had to do with

5604
02:34:38,730 --> 02:34:39,990
the first categories that you

5605
02:34:39,990 --> 02:34:40,890
can express yourself

5606
02:34:40,890 --> 02:34:41,640
differently.

5607
02:34:41,640 --> 02:34:43,340
So if it's a personal problem

5608
02:34:43,340 --> 02:34:45,640
with another person, ask you,

5609
02:34:45,640 --> 02:34:46,950
what is it that you need to

5610
02:34:46,950 --> 02:34:47,640
express?

5611
02:34:47,640 --> 02:34:48,870
What feelings? Who's a

5612
02:34:48,870 --> 02:34:49,640
particular person?

5613
02:34:49,640 --> 02:34:51,260
Your name, that person's name,

5614
02:34:51,260 --> 02:34:52,640
and it's all confidential.

5615
02:34:52,640 --> 02:34:53,640
Okay, what are the choices here?

5616
02:34:53,640 --> 02:34:55,640
Then you get into a second kind

5617
02:34:55,640 --> 02:34:57,640
of behavior that you can do,

5618
02:34:57,640 --> 02:34:58,640
which is,

5619
02:34:58,640 --> 02:35:00,430
in any kind of problem you can

5620
02:35:00,430 --> 02:35:02,190
discipline yourself to act

5621
02:35:02,190 --> 02:35:03,960
differently to relieve the

5622
02:35:03,960 --> 02:35:04,640
stress.

5623
02:35:04,640 --> 02:35:06,410
So for instance, this is called

5624
02:35:06,410 --> 02:35:07,640
the daily demands.

5625
02:35:07,640 --> 02:35:09,330
And it asks you, if you were to

5626
02:35:09,330 --> 02:35:10,410
be on time with your

5627
02:35:10,410 --> 02:35:11,660
appointments and your

5628
02:35:11,660 --> 02:35:12,640
commitments,

5629
02:35:12,640 --> 02:35:13,940
would it solve the specific

5630
02:35:13,940 --> 02:35:15,640
problem that you're working on?

5631
02:35:15,640 --> 02:35:16,460
Would it address it, alleviate

5632
02:35:16,460 --> 02:35:16,640
it?

5633
02:35:16,640 --> 02:35:18,560
Would you do more, if you did

5634
02:35:18,560 --> 02:35:20,640
more for people in your life,

5635
02:35:20,640 --> 02:35:21,410
like your children or your

5636
02:35:21,410 --> 02:35:22,950
spouse or your parents, would

5637
02:35:22,950 --> 02:35:23,640
that help?

5638
02:35:23,640 --> 02:35:25,640
Choose all your work.

5639
02:35:25,640 --> 02:35:27,220
Choose all the items below,

5640
02:35:27,220 --> 02:35:28,730
which would help reduce the

5641
02:35:28,730 --> 02:35:29,640
pain of life.

5642
02:35:29,640 --> 02:35:30,820
I have multiple choices here to

5643
02:35:30,820 --> 02:35:31,820
pick which of these things

5644
02:35:31,820 --> 02:35:32,990
might be the problem I'm trying

5645
02:35:32,990 --> 02:35:33,640
to address.

5646
02:35:33,640 --> 02:35:34,640
That's right.

5647
02:35:34,640 --> 02:35:35,580
And I answer that and then

5648
02:35:35,580 --> 02:35:36,640
where do I go from there?

5649
02:35:36,640 --> 02:35:37,640
You answer that.

5650
02:35:37,640 --> 02:35:39,540
So this is a therapist program,

5651
02:35:39,540 --> 02:35:41,640
instead of going to a therapist.

5652
02:35:41,640 --> 02:35:42,260
And then we get into the next

5653
02:35:42,260 --> 02:35:42,640
category.

5654
02:35:42,640 --> 02:35:43,620
I'd like to spend more time

5655
02:35:43,620 --> 02:35:44,640
with my family and kids.

5656
02:35:44,640 --> 02:35:46,640
The next category is, how can

5657
02:35:46,640 --> 02:35:47,640
you...

5658
02:35:47,640 --> 02:35:49,400
Making life, making your life

5659
02:35:49,400 --> 02:35:50,640
more meaningful.

5660
02:35:55,640 --> 02:35:53,630
How can you use your time and

5661
02:35:53,630 --> 02:35:57,170
energy differently that's more

5662
02:35:57,170 --> 02:35:59,640
meaningful to you?

5663
02:35:59,640 --> 02:36:00,940
Because a lot of times people

5664
02:36:00,940 --> 02:36:02,570
have problems because they aren't

5665
02:36:02,570 --> 02:36:03,990
using themselves well in their

5666
02:36:03,990 --> 02:36:05,640
life or in their work situation.

5667
02:36:05,640 --> 02:36:06,880
Roger, when you get all these

5668
02:36:06,880 --> 02:36:08,160
questions answered and get all

5669
02:36:08,160 --> 02:36:09,280
the data together, what's

5670
02:36:09,280 --> 02:36:10,270
actually done with that

5671
02:36:10,270 --> 02:36:11,640
material you've collected?

5672
02:36:11,640 --> 02:36:13,980
The program continues to guide

5673
02:36:13,980 --> 02:36:16,640
a person's thinking processes.

5674
02:36:16,640 --> 02:36:18,610
There's no prescription, there's

5675
02:36:18,610 --> 02:36:19,640
no evaluation.

5676
02:36:19,640 --> 02:36:21,330
And we help people then sort

5677
02:36:21,330 --> 02:36:22,970
through, is this the right

5678
02:36:22,970 --> 02:36:24,640
thing for me to do or not?

5679
02:36:24,640 --> 02:36:25,800
So some choices are given as

5680
02:36:25,800 --> 02:36:27,070
alternatives of which you can

5681
02:36:27,070 --> 02:36:28,640
solve the problem at that point?

5682
02:36:28,640 --> 02:36:29,640
Well, these are the choices.

5683
02:36:29,640 --> 02:36:31,140
We call it provisional action

5684
02:36:31,140 --> 02:36:31,640
steps.

5685
02:36:31,640 --> 02:36:32,640
The person becomes...

5686
02:36:32,640 --> 02:36:34,310
It's so funny that Stu and Gary

5687
02:36:34,310 --> 02:36:36,060
are involved in talking about

5688
02:36:36,060 --> 02:36:37,640
psychology now and people's

5689
02:36:37,640 --> 02:36:38,640
mind state.

5690
02:36:38,640 --> 02:36:40,930
But they're all about the

5691
02:36:40,930 --> 02:36:42,350
computer. They're all about the

5692
02:36:42,350 --> 02:36:42,640
tech.

5693
02:36:42,640 --> 02:36:44,040
They're all about the cool

5694
02:36:44,040 --> 02:36:44,640
things.

5695
02:36:44,640 --> 02:36:48,520
The new emerging computer stuff

5696
02:36:48,520 --> 02:36:49,640
and chips.

5697
02:36:49,640 --> 02:36:51,610
But they're now talking about

5698
02:36:51,610 --> 02:36:53,640
people's feelings and stuff.

5699
02:36:53,640 --> 02:36:55,390
The people who came in who were

5700
02:36:55,390 --> 02:36:57,000
stuck in terms of they could

5701
02:36:57,000 --> 02:36:58,470
not act in a way to resolve

5702
02:36:58,470 --> 02:36:59,640
their problem.

5703
02:36:59,640 --> 02:37:00,920
By the time the fifth week is

5704
02:37:00,920 --> 02:37:02,420
over, have acted and have come

5705
02:37:02,420 --> 02:37:03,750
to a kind of new perspective on

5706
02:37:03,750 --> 02:37:05,640
themselves as developing adults.

5707
02:37:05,640 --> 02:37:06,630
And you think that this is

5708
02:37:06,630 --> 02:37:07,870
something that would have been

5709
02:37:07,870 --> 02:37:09,000
very difficult to achieve if

5710
02:37:09,000 --> 02:37:10,170
you'd not had at least a lot

5711
02:37:10,170 --> 02:37:10,640
more work?

5712
02:37:10,640 --> 02:37:11,900
All the therapists, including

5713
02:37:11,900 --> 02:37:12,970
myself, who use alternate

5714
02:37:12,970 --> 02:37:14,220
methods and have used alternate

5715
02:37:14,220 --> 02:37:15,520
methods, compare this method,

5716
02:37:15,520 --> 02:37:16,640
what we've done before.

5717
02:37:16,640 --> 02:37:18,330
And this is much more effective

5718
02:37:18,330 --> 02:37:19,920
and it's much more useful for

5719
02:37:19,920 --> 02:37:21,570
the patient because they end up

5720
02:37:21,570 --> 02:37:22,640
with hard copy.

5721
02:37:22,640 --> 02:37:25,640
They end up owning new skills.

5722
02:37:25,640 --> 02:37:27,180
The therapist is much less

5723
02:37:27,180 --> 02:37:28,930
important and a whole sense of

5724
02:37:28,930 --> 02:37:30,910
greater self-esteem and problem

5725
02:37:30,910 --> 02:37:31,640
solving.

5726
02:37:31,640 --> 02:37:33,190
Bernie, what do you think about

5727
02:37:33,190 --> 02:37:33,640
this?

5728
02:37:33,640 --> 02:37:35,830
I'm glad that he cut over to

5729
02:37:35,830 --> 02:37:38,410
this fella now because that lad

5730
02:37:38,410 --> 02:37:40,290
was, he seemed to lack

5731
02:37:40,290 --> 02:37:41,640
compassion.

5732
02:37:41,640 --> 02:37:43,610
He was very, this fella was

5733
02:37:43,610 --> 02:37:44,640
very aloof.

5734
02:37:44,640 --> 02:37:46,850
And I don't like the way he's

5735
02:37:46,850 --> 02:37:49,270
just in the studio with Stu and

5736
02:37:49,270 --> 02:37:51,610
Gary and he's been this way,

5737
02:37:51,610 --> 02:37:52,640
you know.

5738
02:37:52,640 --> 02:37:54,060
You need to have a bit of charm,

5739
02:37:54,060 --> 02:37:55,560
you need to have, he hasn't

5740
02:37:55,560 --> 02:37:56,800
moved, his head has been tilted

5741
02:37:56,800 --> 02:37:57,960
as well for fucking five

5742
02:37:57,960 --> 02:37:58,640
minutes.

5743
02:37:58,640 --> 02:38:01,640
What do you think about this?

5744
02:38:01,640 --> 02:38:02,880
Oh, actually this sounds

5745
02:38:02,880 --> 02:38:03,640
interesting.

5746
02:38:03,640 --> 02:38:07,200
However, I'm sorry, Roger, but

5747
02:38:07,200 --> 02:38:07,640
the-

5748
02:38:07,640 --> 02:38:09,480
We might see a bit of a fucking

5749
02:38:09,480 --> 02:38:11,620
tete-a-tete here between Bernie

5750
02:38:11,620 --> 02:38:13,730
Zilbergeld and the Gullmeister

5751
02:38:13,730 --> 02:38:14,640
himself.

5752
02:38:14,640 --> 02:38:16,080
The outcome really has to be

5753
02:38:16,080 --> 02:38:17,640
taken with a grain of salt.

5754
02:38:17,640 --> 02:38:19,210
You can find any therapist from

5755
02:38:19,210 --> 02:38:20,700
any school of any sort who say

5756
02:38:20,700 --> 02:38:21,640
the same thing.

5757
02:38:21,640 --> 02:38:23,260
The real proof, and Roger knows

5758
02:38:23,260 --> 02:38:24,960
this, is in comparative outcome

5759
02:38:24,960 --> 02:38:25,640
studies.

5760
02:38:25,640 --> 02:38:26,900
And he just told me before that

5761
02:38:26,900 --> 02:38:28,160
there's some money available

5762
02:38:28,160 --> 02:38:29,640
and he's going to be involved.

5763
02:38:29,640 --> 02:38:30,640
And I would even-

5764
02:38:30,640 --> 02:38:31,640
He doesn't like it.

5765
02:38:31,640 --> 02:38:33,640
He doesn't like being slighted.

5766
02:38:33,640 --> 02:38:35,640
You see that look?

5767
02:38:35,640 --> 02:38:36,640
And he just told me-

5768
02:38:36,640 --> 02:38:38,910
Bernie Zilbergeld is laying

5769
02:38:38,910 --> 02:38:41,640
down a contrarian's position.

5770
02:38:41,640 --> 02:38:44,640
Before that there's some money-

5771
02:38:44,640 --> 02:38:45,640
is all I can gather.

5772
02:38:45,640 --> 02:38:47,040
I don't think it's a full-on

5773
02:38:47,040 --> 02:38:48,640
attack on the Gullmeister.

5774
02:38:48,640 --> 02:38:49,640
Oh boy.

5775
02:38:49,640 --> 02:38:50,640
But we can see this-

5776
02:38:50,640 --> 02:38:51,640
Look at the fucking-

5777
02:38:51,640 --> 02:38:52,640
Look at that.

5778
02:38:52,640 --> 02:38:53,640
He's-

5779
02:38:53,640 --> 02:38:54,640
The way he's looking at him.

5780
02:38:55,640 --> 02:38:56,640
Pure contempt.

5781
02:38:56,640 --> 02:38:57,640
I can-

5782
02:38:57,640 --> 02:38:58,640
You can tell from the-

5783
02:38:58,640 --> 02:39:00,730
Just the body language of

5784
02:39:00,730 --> 02:39:03,290
someone that, you know, they

5785
02:39:03,290 --> 02:39:04,640
might not have-

5786
02:39:04,640 --> 02:39:07,660
They might not be all there in

5787
02:39:07,660 --> 02:39:10,520
terms of a fully rounded,

5788
02:39:10,520 --> 02:39:12,640
receptive human.

5789
02:39:12,640 --> 02:39:13,640
Do you know?

5790
02:39:13,640 --> 02:39:14,640
Yet he's in the business.

5791
02:39:14,640 --> 02:39:16,570
I mean, obviously, this is all

5792
02:39:16,570 --> 02:39:18,640
fucking me just making this up.

5793
02:39:18,640 --> 02:39:19,960
But I mean, it's not coming out

5794
02:39:19,960 --> 02:39:20,640
of nowhere.

5795
02:39:20,640 --> 02:39:22,280
But he's in the business of

5796
02:39:22,280 --> 02:39:24,640
being a psychologist, I imagine.

5797
02:39:24,640 --> 02:39:25,640
Do you know?

5798
02:39:25,640 --> 02:39:28,150
But maybe he's just too fucking

5799
02:39:28,150 --> 02:39:29,640
up his own hole.

5800
02:39:29,640 --> 02:39:30,640
I'm not sure.

5801
02:39:30,640 --> 02:39:31,640
He'll be involved.

5802
02:39:31,640 --> 02:39:32,640
Look at that.

5803
02:39:32,640 --> 02:39:33,640
Doesn't like it at all.

5804
02:39:33,640 --> 02:39:34,640
...go further than that.

5805
02:39:34,640 --> 02:39:35,760
Because the same holds true of

5806
02:39:35,760 --> 02:39:36,640
all these programs.

5807
02:39:36,640 --> 02:39:38,180
The real research will have to

5808
02:39:38,180 --> 02:39:39,640
be done by somebody else.

5809
02:39:39,640 --> 02:39:40,580
And we will not have good

5810
02:39:40,580 --> 02:39:41,750
answers for at least several

5811
02:39:41,750 --> 02:39:42,640
years down the road.

5812
02:39:42,640 --> 02:39:43,830
I think it's real important

5813
02:39:43,830 --> 02:39:45,080
with all these programs that

5814
02:39:45,080 --> 02:39:46,640
somebody, you know,

5815
02:39:46,640 --> 02:39:47,480
it's easy to say we need more

5816
02:39:47,480 --> 02:39:48,640
research and everybody says it.

5817
02:39:48,640 --> 02:39:50,640
Not many people do it.

5818
02:39:50,640 --> 02:39:51,800
Because otherwise you just have

5819
02:39:51,800 --> 02:39:52,640
a lot of wild claims.

5820
02:39:52,640 --> 02:39:54,570
Some people say computers will

5821
02:39:54,570 --> 02:39:55,640
lower prices.

5822
02:39:55,640 --> 02:39:56,500
I can see a lot of ways where

5823
02:39:56,500 --> 02:39:57,640
they're going to raise prices.

5824
02:39:57,640 --> 02:39:58,640
The price of therapy.

5825
02:39:58,640 --> 02:39:59,640
Bullen.

5826
02:39:59,640 --> 02:40:00,640
Bullen.

5827
02:40:00,640 --> 02:40:02,130
You see, and you can tell when

5828
02:40:02,130 --> 02:40:03,640
someone is not enjoying it.

5829
02:40:03,640 --> 02:40:04,670
When someone does that with

5830
02:40:04,670 --> 02:40:05,640
their mouth like this.

5831
02:40:08,640 --> 02:40:09,710
He's fucking eating his lips at

5832
02:40:09,710 --> 02:40:11,640
that point.

5833
02:40:11,640 --> 02:40:14,000
His lips are between his dentures,

5834
02:40:14,000 --> 02:40:14,640
his teeth.

5835
02:40:14,640 --> 02:40:15,640
Computers will lower prices.

5836
02:40:15,640 --> 02:40:16,060
I can see a lot of ways where

5837
02:40:16,060 --> 02:40:16,640
they're going to raise prices.

5838
02:40:16,640 --> 02:40:17,640
The price of therapy.

5839
02:40:17,640 --> 02:40:18,160
The price of anything that

5840
02:40:18,160 --> 02:40:18,640
involves the computers.

5841
02:40:18,640 --> 02:40:19,010
Computers are not that cheap,

5842
02:40:19,010 --> 02:40:19,380
especially when you're buying

5843
02:40:19,380 --> 02:40:19,640
lots of them.

5844
02:40:19,640 --> 02:40:22,120
But what is your feeling in

5845
02:40:22,120 --> 02:40:24,870
terms of really helping out a

5846
02:40:24,870 --> 02:40:27,880
therapist if we could have the

5847
02:40:27,880 --> 02:40:30,750
really good expert systems, if

5848
02:40:30,750 --> 02:40:32,000
they evolved a good expert

5849
02:40:32,000 --> 02:40:33,350
system, would that be a real

5850
02:40:33,350 --> 02:40:34,640
help to the therapist?

5851
02:40:34,640 --> 02:40:36,510
I think what Roger's program is

5852
02:40:36,510 --> 02:40:38,360
doing, as I understand it, is

5853
02:40:38,360 --> 02:40:40,290
trying to automate some of the,

5854
02:40:40,290 --> 02:40:42,110
take some of the work away from

5855
02:40:42,110 --> 02:40:43,910
the therapist that a computer

5856
02:40:43,910 --> 02:40:44,640
can do.

5857
02:40:44,640 --> 02:40:46,050
And nothing he's said so far,

5858
02:40:46,050 --> 02:40:47,510
you know, turns me off or makes

5859
02:40:47,510 --> 02:40:48,640
me really worried.

5860
02:40:48,640 --> 02:40:49,940
However, you know, there's

5861
02:40:49,940 --> 02:40:51,250
those placards that say, you

5862
02:40:51,250 --> 02:40:52,380
know, to air is human, to

5863
02:40:52,380 --> 02:40:53,640
really screw things up, you

5864
02:40:53,640 --> 02:40:54,640
need a computer.

5865
02:40:54,640 --> 02:40:55,640
I think we would do well.

5866
02:40:55,640 --> 02:40:57,000
This is not talking directly to

5867
02:40:57,000 --> 02:40:58,450
Roger, but to keep that in mind,

5868
02:40:58,450 --> 02:40:59,760
this is not more scientific or

5869
02:40:59,760 --> 02:41:00,920
objective or efficient or

5870
02:41:00,920 --> 02:41:01,640
anything.

5871
02:41:01,640 --> 02:41:03,020
It's just a box with stuff we

5872
02:41:03,020 --> 02:41:03,640
put in it.

5873
02:41:03,640 --> 02:41:04,640
Just a tool.

5874
02:41:04,640 --> 02:41:05,640
Just a box.

5875
02:41:05,640 --> 02:41:06,640
Sometimes it's helpful.

5876
02:41:06,640 --> 02:41:07,640
I think this holds some promise.

5877
02:41:07,640 --> 02:41:08,640
I think that.

5878
02:41:08,640 --> 02:41:09,640
Just a box.

5879
02:41:09,640 --> 02:41:10,640
Dr. Golds holds some promise.

5880
02:41:10,640 --> 02:41:11,640
But we've got to be careful.

5881
02:41:11,640 --> 02:41:12,640
I think.

5882
02:41:12,640 --> 02:41:13,640
Okay.

5883
02:41:13,640 --> 02:41:14,640
Roger.

5884
02:41:14,640 --> 02:41:15,640
Oh, he's going to have one more.

5885
02:41:15,640 --> 02:41:17,020
He has to get a final fucking

5886
02:41:17,020 --> 02:41:17,640
salvo in.

5887
02:41:17,640 --> 02:41:18,760
And the important thing is the

5888
02:41:18,760 --> 02:41:19,640
stuff you put in it.

5889
02:41:19,640 --> 02:41:21,320
And we're sitting here and this

5890
02:41:21,320 --> 02:41:22,810
is what's been put in here is

5891
02:41:22,810 --> 02:41:24,650
represents about 80 years of

5892
02:41:24,650 --> 02:41:26,290
clinical experience by three

5893
02:41:26,290 --> 02:41:27,970
professors of psychiatry who

5894
02:41:27,970 --> 02:41:29,640
are also psychoanalysts.

5895
02:41:29,640 --> 02:41:30,640
So it's as good as can be.

5896
02:41:30,640 --> 02:41:31,640
Well, he cracked a smile anyway.

5897
02:41:31,640 --> 02:41:32,640
Fucking hell.

5898
02:41:32,640 --> 02:41:33,640
Got a call and end to it.

5899
02:41:33,640 --> 02:41:34,640
Oh, brilliant.

5900
02:41:34,640 --> 02:41:36,150
I love it when Stu, this is

5901
02:41:36,150 --> 02:41:37,790
just one of those moments when

5902
02:41:37,790 --> 02:41:39,640
you really want Stu to do it.

5903
02:41:39,640 --> 02:41:41,730
And it was at that moment that

5904
02:41:41,730 --> 02:41:43,640
the ghoulmeister knew.

5905
02:41:43,640 --> 02:41:45,640
Even though it was too late.

5906
02:41:45,640 --> 02:41:48,200
You showed warmth too late in

5907
02:41:48,200 --> 02:41:49,640
injury time.

5908
02:41:49,640 --> 02:41:51,310
You should have, you should

5909
02:41:51,310 --> 02:41:53,170
have fucking smiled 10 minutes

5910
02:41:53,170 --> 02:41:53,640
ago.

5911
02:41:53,640 --> 02:41:55,350
And we would have maybe have

5912
02:41:55,350 --> 02:41:56,640
been on your side.

5913
02:41:56,640 --> 02:41:59,960
But you displayed a detachment

5914
02:41:59,960 --> 02:42:03,640
and a sense of self that was aloof.

5915
02:42:03,640 --> 02:42:06,460
And unfortunately, ghoul, Stu

5916
02:42:06,460 --> 02:42:09,020
blew the whistle on your

5917
02:42:09,020 --> 02:42:09,640
bullshit.

5918
02:42:09,640 --> 02:42:10,760
Psychoanalysts who are also

5919
02:42:10,760 --> 02:42:11,640
psychoanalysts.

5920
02:42:11,640 --> 02:42:12,640
So it's as good as...

5921
02:42:12,640 --> 02:42:14,390
He was about to fucking try and

5922
02:42:14,390 --> 02:42:15,640
curry favor by...

5923
02:42:15,640 --> 02:42:17,480
And he was also, I think from

5924
02:42:17,480 --> 02:42:19,400
what I can hear there, I think

5925
02:42:19,400 --> 02:42:21,230
he was also trying to just, I

5926
02:42:21,230 --> 02:42:22,990
don't know, go on about in a

5927
02:42:22,990 --> 02:42:25,050
pompous way about how we're all

5928
02:42:25,050 --> 02:42:27,450
psychoanalysts and psychiatrists,

5929
02:42:27,450 --> 02:42:28,640
aren't we?

5930
02:42:28,640 --> 02:42:29,640
Or something like that.

5931
02:42:29,640 --> 02:42:31,290
He's probably being paid

5932
02:42:31,290 --> 02:42:32,640
fucking truckloads.

5933
02:42:32,640 --> 02:42:34,460
And we're sitting here and this

5934
02:42:34,460 --> 02:42:36,340
is, what's been put in here is,

5935
02:42:36,340 --> 02:42:38,530
represents about 80 years of

5936
02:42:38,530 --> 02:42:40,200
clinical experience by three

5937
02:42:40,200 --> 02:42:41,810
professors of psychiatry who

5938
02:42:41,810 --> 02:42:43,640
are also psychoanalysts.

5939
02:42:43,640 --> 02:42:44,640
So it's as good as can be.

5940
02:42:44,640 --> 02:42:47,640
I've got to call an end to it.

5941
02:42:47,640 --> 02:42:48,640
Well, we've seen...

5942
02:42:48,640 --> 02:42:49,640
Lovely, lovely stuff.

5943
02:42:49,640 --> 02:42:50,660
He thought he'd, thought he'd

5944
02:42:50,660 --> 02:42:51,640
got it in, but you lost, man.

5945
02:42:51,640 --> 02:42:52,640
You lost, man.

5946
02:42:52,640 --> 02:42:53,830
In another area today in which

5947
02:42:53,830 --> 02:42:55,050
computers seem to be making an

5948
02:42:55,050 --> 02:42:56,270
important contribution, yet

5949
02:42:56,270 --> 02:42:57,230
some are concerned that

5950
02:42:57,230 --> 02:42:58,290
computers are moving into

5951
02:42:58,290 --> 02:42:59,640
uniquely human territory.

5952
02:42:59,640 --> 02:43:00,760
We asked our commentator,

5953
02:43:00,760 --> 02:43:02,040
George Morrow, for some final

5954
02:43:02,040 --> 02:43:02,640
thoughts.

5955
02:43:02,640 --> 02:43:04,640
Georgie Morrow, boy.

5956
02:43:04,640 --> 02:43:05,640
Boy, I sure...

5957
02:43:05,640 --> 02:43:06,640
Beautiful.

5958
02:43:06,640 --> 02:43:08,910
We've seen George Morrow on

5959
02:43:08,910 --> 02:43:11,310
episodes where Gary Kildall was

5960
02:43:11,310 --> 02:43:13,640
off sick or doing stuff.

5961
02:43:13,640 --> 02:43:15,830
And now it seems as though he

5962
02:43:15,830 --> 02:43:16,640
had...

5963
02:43:16,640 --> 02:43:19,640
He was the Schindler before Schindler.

5964
02:43:19,640 --> 02:43:21,290
So Schindler used to have his

5965
02:43:21,290 --> 02:43:22,640
own little section.

5966
02:43:22,640 --> 02:43:25,640
And what we can see and what I'm...

5967
02:43:25,640 --> 02:43:27,640
What I believe I'm seeing here

5968
02:43:27,640 --> 02:43:29,640
is Morrow with his own section

5969
02:43:29,640 --> 02:43:30,640
in the show.

5970
02:43:30,640 --> 02:43:33,640
The Morrow section.

5971
02:43:33,640 --> 02:43:35,640
I'm glad for the...

5972
02:43:35,640 --> 02:43:36,810
Commentator George Morrow for

5973
02:43:36,810 --> 02:43:37,640
some final thoughts.

5974
02:43:37,640 --> 02:43:39,000
Boy, I sure am glad for the

5975
02:43:39,000 --> 02:43:40,510
therapy of this camera and all

5976
02:43:40,510 --> 02:43:42,110
you people listening out there

5977
02:43:42,110 --> 02:43:43,660
because I've built up a lot of

5978
02:43:43,660 --> 02:43:45,100
hostility over the flagrant

5979
02:43:45,100 --> 02:43:46,640
abuse of this word expert.

5980
02:43:46,640 --> 02:43:48,270
It's bad enough from

5981
02:43:48,270 --> 02:43:49,640
programmers.

5982
02:43:49,640 --> 02:43:50,610
Common sense is not a vital

5983
02:43:50,610 --> 02:43:51,640
trait for these people.

5984
02:43:51,640 --> 02:43:52,810
But it's really stressful to

5985
02:43:52,810 --> 02:43:53,800
have the word mangled by

5986
02:43:53,800 --> 02:43:54,640
psychologists.

5987
02:43:54,640 --> 02:43:55,720
You expect someone who

5988
02:43:55,720 --> 02:43:57,200
understands human behavior to

5989
02:43:57,200 --> 02:43:58,640
have a lot of common sense.

5990
02:43:58,640 --> 02:44:00,640
Well, what is an expert?

5991
02:44:00,640 --> 02:44:01,900
Someone or thing who

5992
02:44:01,900 --> 02:44:03,690
understands a discipline so

5993
02:44:03,690 --> 02:44:05,210
well that responses are

5994
02:44:05,210 --> 02:44:07,230
automatic and based on patterns

5995
02:44:07,230 --> 02:44:08,640
rather than rules.

5996
02:44:08,640 --> 02:44:10,250
Experts know that rules must be

5997
02:44:10,250 --> 02:44:11,640
broken some of the time.

5998
02:44:11,640 --> 02:44:12,640
When?

5999
02:44:12,640 --> 02:44:13,970
Knowing that answer is the

6000
02:44:13,970 --> 02:44:15,690
difference between being expert

6001
02:44:15,690 --> 02:44:16,640
and competent.

6002
02:44:17,640 --> 02:44:18,450
Now, our present understanding

6003
02:44:18,450 --> 02:44:19,890
of how the human mind works is

6004
02:44:19,890 --> 02:44:21,250
so limited that there's no

6005
02:44:21,250 --> 02:44:22,800
basis for anyone to claim to be

6006
02:44:22,800 --> 02:44:24,640
a genuine expert in this area.

6007
02:44:24,640 --> 02:44:26,640
Therapy wouldn't be the hitter...

6008
02:44:26,640 --> 02:44:27,310
What even the fuck is he on

6009
02:44:27,310 --> 02:44:27,640
about?

6010
02:44:27,640 --> 02:44:28,640
Like, we haven't seen any...

6011
02:44:28,640 --> 02:44:30,390
Thought it was gonna pan out to

6012
02:44:30,390 --> 02:44:31,790
show him at a computer or

6013
02:44:31,790 --> 02:44:32,640
something.

6014
02:44:32,640 --> 02:44:34,640
This is just a George...

6015
02:44:34,640 --> 02:44:36,640
One shot of George...

6016
02:44:36,640 --> 02:44:38,080
Head and shoulders talking

6017
02:44:38,080 --> 02:44:38,640
George.

6018
02:44:38,640 --> 02:44:40,640
This thing it is otherwise.

6019
02:44:40,640 --> 02:44:41,830
The bottom line then is that

6020
02:44:41,830 --> 02:44:43,120
computers should be able to do

6021
02:44:43,120 --> 02:44:44,350
as good a job as humans in some

6022
02:44:44,350 --> 02:44:45,640
areas of therapy...

6023
02:44:45,640 --> 02:44:46,640
And then a zoom in!

6024
02:44:46,640 --> 02:44:48,260
After all, successful therapy

6025
02:44:48,260 --> 02:44:49,280
results in a patient

6026
02:44:49,280 --> 02:44:50,730
discovering how to solve his

6027
02:44:50,730 --> 02:44:51,640
own problems.

6028
02:44:51,640 --> 02:44:52,640
That's how I see it.

6029
02:44:52,640 --> 02:44:54,640
I'm George Morrow.

6030
02:44:56,640 --> 02:44:58,640
Unbelievable.

6031
02:44:59,640 --> 02:45:01,760
Absolute babble from George Morrow

6032
02:45:01,760 --> 02:45:02,640
there.

6033
02:45:02,640 --> 02:45:04,640
And I wonder what the...

6034
02:45:04,640 --> 02:45:06,730
When did Schindler come into

6035
02:45:06,730 --> 02:45:07,640
the fold?

6036
02:45:07,640 --> 02:45:09,670
Schindler really brought a

6037
02:45:09,670 --> 02:45:11,680
fucking air of gravitas and

6038
02:45:11,680 --> 02:45:13,870
class to his little bits, you

6039
02:45:13,870 --> 02:45:14,640
know?

6040
02:45:15,640 --> 02:45:17,540
I don't know what his piece was

6041
02:45:17,540 --> 02:45:18,640
called.

6042
02:45:18,640 --> 02:45:19,640
I think he just had...

6043
02:45:19,640 --> 02:45:21,290
It was just like an "over to

6044
02:45:21,290 --> 02:45:21,640
you"

6045
02:45:21,640 --> 02:45:23,310
Now here's Paul Schindler with

6046
02:45:23,310 --> 02:45:25,010
his thought for the week, but I

6047
02:45:25,010 --> 02:45:25,640
mean...

6048
02:45:26,640 --> 02:45:27,310
Schindler fucking had all the

6049
02:45:27,310 --> 02:45:28,840
whistles and bells, he had

6050
02:45:28,840 --> 02:45:30,640
facial expressions...

6051
02:45:31,640 --> 02:45:32,530
He injected a little bit of

6052
02:45:32,530 --> 02:45:34,640
comedy into it, you know?

6053
02:45:34,640 --> 02:45:35,640
Bit of pathos.

6054
02:45:35,640 --> 02:45:36,640
Sweden.

6055
02:45:36,640 --> 02:45:36,640
Sweden.

6056
02:45:36,640 --> 02:45:37,640
...

6057
02:45:37,640 --> 02:45:38,640
Sweden.

6058
02:45:38,640 --> 02:45:38,640
Sweden.

6059
02:45:38,640 --> 02:45:38,640
Sweden.

6060
02:45:38,640 --> 02:45:39,640
Sweden.

6061
02:45:39,640 --> 02:45:39,640
Sweden.

6062
02:45:39,640 --> 02:45:40,640
Sweden.

6063
02:45:40,640 --> 02:45:41,640
...

6064
02:45:41,640 --> 02:45:43,640
...

6065
02:45:43,640 --> 02:45:44,640
...

6066
02:45:44,640 --> 02:45:44,640
...

6067
02:45:44,640 --> 02:45:45,640
...

6068
02:45:45,640 --> 02:45:46,640
...

6069
02:45:46,640 --> 02:45:46,640
...

6070
02:45:46,640 --> 02:45:46,640
...

6071
02:45:46,640 --> 02:45:47,640
...

6072
02:45:47,640 --> 02:45:49,230
laboratory mice. The research

6073
02:45:49,230 --> 02:45:50,590
was conducted by the Swedish

6074
02:45:50,590 --> 02:45:51,610
Occupational Safety

6075
02:45:51,610 --> 02:45:52,640
Administration.

6076
02:45:53,100 --> 02:45:54,390
One researcher cautioned that

6077
02:45:54,390 --> 02:45:56,020
one cannot necessarily draw

6078
02:45:56,020 --> 02:45:57,780
conclusions for humans based

6079
02:45:57,780 --> 02:45:59,540
on experiments with mice, but

6080
02:45:59,540 --> 02:46:01,000
he said we can no longer rule

6081
02:46:01,000 --> 02:46:02,680
out the possibility that

6082
02:46:02,680 --> 02:46:03,100
radiation

6083
02:46:03,100 --> 02:46:04,980
from computer VDTs could harm

6084
02:46:04,980 --> 02:46:06,940
fetuses. Commodore got a new

6085
02:46:06,940 --> 02:46:08,880
lease on life this week, though

6086
02:46:08,880 --> 02:46:09,040
it was

6087
02:46:09,040 --> 02:46:10,660
a short-term lease. Commodore's

6088
02:46:10,660 --> 02:46:12,110
bankers extended their current

6089
02:46:12,110 --> 02:46:13,900
loan deadline one more month to

6090
02:46:13,900 --> 02:46:14,080
give

6091
02:46:14,080 --> 02:46:15,530
Commodore executives time to

6092
02:46:15,530 --> 02:46:16,950
come up with a payback plan.

6093
02:46:16,950 --> 02:46:18,660
Commodore owes the banks nearly

6094
02:46:18,660 --> 02:46:19,500
$200 million.

6095
02:46:20,160 --> 02:46:21,340
A Commodore spokesman said Amiga

6096
02:46:21,340 --> 02:46:22,860
sales in the fourth quarter

6097
02:46:22,860 --> 02:46:24,320
should give Commodore its

6098
02:46:24,320 --> 02:46:24,780
second

6099
02:46:24,780 --> 02:46:27,070
best quarter in history. Is

6100
02:46:27,070 --> 02:46:28,600
that Amiga sales or meager

6101
02:46:28,600 --> 02:46:31,060
sales? Two different things.

6102
02:46:31,060 --> 02:46:31,980
Hanleyman,

6103
02:46:32,060 --> 02:46:33,310
thank you very much for the tip

6104
02:46:33,310 --> 02:46:34,860
there. K-Pro has announced it's

6105
02:46:34,860 --> 02:46:36,100
eliminating several of its

6106
02:46:36,100 --> 02:46:36,480
models

6107
02:46:36,480 --> 02:46:37,790
in an attempt to return to

6108
02:46:37,790 --> 02:46:39,730
profitability. Discontinued are

6109
02:46:39,730 --> 02:46:41,700
the K-Pro1 and the K-Pro10,

6110
02:46:41,700 --> 02:46:43,520
which ran CPM, and two versions

6111
02:46:43,520 --> 02:46:45,700
of the 286i. The company said

6112
02:46:45,700 --> 02:46:47,150
it's adding a new hard disk

6113
02:46:47,150 --> 02:46:47,840
version

6114
02:46:47,840 --> 02:46:49,450
of the K-Pro PC, which will

6115
02:46:49,450 --> 02:46:51,460
come with a 20 megabyte drive

6116
02:46:51,460 --> 02:46:53,900
and sell for $18.95. In our

6117
02:46:53,900 --> 02:46:54,920
legislative update

6118
02:46:54,920 --> 02:46:56,360
file, the Senate Judiciary

6119
02:46:56,360 --> 02:46:58,010
Committee is hearing testimony

6120
02:46:58,010 --> 02:46:59,390
on a bill that would make the

6121
02:46:59,390 --> 02:46:59,780
FBI's

6122
02:46:59,780 --> 02:47:01,390
national crime computer

6123
02:47:01,390 --> 02:47:03,040
accessible to college campus

6124
02:47:03,040 --> 02:47:05,070
police departments. The ACLU is

6125
02:47:05,070 --> 02:47:06,340
arguing against the

6126
02:47:06,340 --> 02:47:08,330
saying 5% of the records in the

6127
02:47:08,330 --> 02:47:10,380
FBI's computer contain erroneous

6128
02:47:10,380 --> 02:47:11,340
information.

6129
02:47:11,340 --> 02:47:13,270
The ACLU says that has led to

6130
02:47:13,270 --> 02:47:15,710
false arrests and detention of

6131
02:47:15,710 --> 02:47:17,340
innocent people.

6132
02:47:17,340 --> 02:47:20,540
Detention of innocent people.

6133
02:47:20,540 --> 02:47:21,340
Several people...

6134
02:47:21,340 --> 02:47:23,650
...and detention of innocent

6135
02:47:23,650 --> 02:47:25,510
people. Several computer

6136
02:47:25,510 --> 02:47:27,550
experts this week warned that

6137
02:47:27,550 --> 02:47:28,890
the major problem in computer

6138
02:47:28,890 --> 02:47:30,710
security is not with outside

6139
02:47:30,710 --> 02:47:33,340
hackers, but with corporate insiders.

6140
02:47:33,340 --> 02:47:34,910
One of the executives said that

6141
02:47:34,910 --> 02:47:36,480
despite the publicity given to

6142
02:47:36,480 --> 02:47:38,530
hackers, only 5-10% of computer

6143
02:47:38,530 --> 02:47:40,340
crime is committed by hackers.

6144
02:47:40,340 --> 02:47:42,180
The rest of it is the result of

6145
02:47:42,180 --> 02:47:44,340
careless internal security.

6146
02:47:44,340 --> 02:47:46,180
The IRS says their upgraded

6147
02:47:46,180 --> 02:47:48,340
computer system is working just

6148
02:47:48,340 --> 02:47:49,340
fine so far.

6149
02:47:49,340 --> 02:47:51,060
The latest report card shows

6150
02:47:51,060 --> 02:47:52,780
the feds have processed four

6151
02:47:52,780 --> 02:47:54,500
times as many refunds as they

6152
02:47:54,500 --> 02:47:56,340
had by this time last year.

6153
02:47:56,340 --> 02:47:58,220
Paul Schindler's up next with

6154
02:47:58,220 --> 02:48:00,340
this week's software review.

6155
02:48:00,340 --> 02:48:03,070
The people's car. Simple to use,

6156
02:48:03,070 --> 02:48:05,120
dependable. I have to assume

6157
02:48:05,120 --> 02:48:06,260
that's why the people at Lifetree

6158
02:48:06,260 --> 02:48:07,340
Software paid a...

6159
02:48:07,340 --> 02:48:09,510
Heavy on the makeup there. They've

6160
02:48:09,510 --> 02:48:11,110
really gone to town with the

6161
02:48:11,110 --> 02:48:12,340
fucking...

6162
02:48:12,340 --> 02:48:14,440
...whatever you call that, blusher

6163
02:48:14,440 --> 02:48:15,860
or foundation or whatever the

6164
02:48:15,860 --> 02:48:16,340
fuck.

6165
02:48:16,340 --> 02:48:18,340
It's too much.

6166
02:48:18,340 --> 02:48:19,840
Homage to an automobile when

6167
02:48:19,840 --> 02:48:21,340
they named their...

6168
02:48:21,340 --> 02:48:23,340
Look at Schindler's face even.

6169
02:48:23,340 --> 02:48:25,340
I mean, Mauro was Maribund.

6170
02:48:25,340 --> 02:48:26,230
George Maribund is what you

6171
02:48:26,230 --> 02:48:27,340
should call him, but...

6172
02:48:27,340 --> 02:48:28,970
...Schindler, look at the way

6173
02:48:28,970 --> 02:48:30,130
his face pops when he says

6174
02:48:30,130 --> 02:48:31,720
certain words and stuff. It's

6175
02:48:31,720 --> 02:48:33,340
fucking insane.

6176
02:48:33,340 --> 02:48:35,340
Like, it's just another level.

6177
02:48:35,340 --> 02:48:37,340
Like this. Boom.

6178
02:48:37,340 --> 02:48:40,340
Boom.

6179
02:48:40,340 --> 02:48:42,340
Boom.

6180
02:48:42,340 --> 02:48:44,340
Wah.

6181
02:48:44,340 --> 02:48:45,420
We're paid homage to an

6182
02:48:45,420 --> 02:48:46,240
automobile.

6183
02:48:48,020 --> 02:48:49,540
Just automobile there.

6184
02:48:49,680 --> 02:48:50,500
It's intense.

6185
02:48:50,980 --> 02:48:52,160
It's a real trip.

6186
02:48:53,240 --> 02:48:54,760
Schindler is a fucking trip.

6187
02:48:55,700 --> 02:48:56,750
And you don't know whether or

6188
02:48:56,750 --> 02:48:57,980
not you're going to come back.

6189
02:48:58,220 --> 02:48:59,290
And you'd think, if you are

6190
02:48:59,290 --> 02:49:00,500
going to come back, am I going

6191
02:49:00,500 --> 02:49:01,720
to be the same person again?

6192
02:49:01,780 --> 02:49:02,730
I don't think I've ever been

6193
02:49:02,730 --> 02:49:03,480
the same person.

6194
02:49:06,180 --> 02:49:07,120
You know, before going into a

6195
02:49:07,120 --> 02:49:10,030
Schindler VT, as I was coming

6196
02:49:10,030 --> 02:49:11,980
out of a Schindler VT.

6197
02:49:13,980 --> 02:49:15,140
And that's his way.

6198
02:49:15,240 --> 02:49:16,170
That's just the way he does

6199
02:49:16,170 --> 02:49:17,200
business, you know?

6200
02:49:17,580 --> 02:49:19,000
That's why the people at Lifetree

6201
02:49:19,000 --> 02:49:20,490
Software paid homage to an

6202
02:49:20,490 --> 02:49:22,240
automobile when they named

6203
02:49:22,240 --> 02:49:23,700
their word processor Volkswriter.

6204
02:49:24,080 --> 02:49:25,500
Now, I admit, we reviewed this

6205
02:49:25,500 --> 02:49:26,780
one a few years ago.

6206
02:49:27,040 --> 02:49:28,810
But version 3 is so improved, I

6207
02:49:28,810 --> 02:49:30,550
can't resist taking another

6208
02:49:30,550 --> 02:49:31,120
look.

6209
02:49:31,520 --> 02:49:32,600
There are a lot of new features

6210
02:49:32,600 --> 02:49:34,470
in 3.0, and they don't cost you

6211
02:49:34,470 --> 02:49:35,500
anything extra.

6212
02:49:35,720 --> 02:49:36,720
The price stayed the same.

6213
02:49:37,180 --> 02:49:37,850
The biggest change is an

6214
02:49:37,850 --> 02:49:39,580
addition called the style sheet.

6215
02:49:39,920 --> 02:49:41,330
You set one of these up, and it

6216
02:49:41,330 --> 02:49:42,940
automatically applies to every

6217
02:49:42,940 --> 02:49:44,480
document of a certain type.

6218
02:49:44,780 --> 02:49:46,060
All letters, for example, or

6219
02:49:46,060 --> 02:49:46,800
all memos.

6220
02:49:47,200 --> 02:49:47,930
There's also a built-in

6221
02:49:47,930 --> 02:49:50,550
spelling checker with a 170,000-word

6222
02:49:50,550 --> 02:49:51,460
dictionary.

6223
02:49:52,020 --> 02:49:52,610
You can use it to check a

6224
02:49:52,610 --> 02:49:54,410
document while writing, or go

6225
02:49:54,410 --> 02:49:55,740
back and check it in batch mode

6226
02:49:55,740 --> 02:49:56,300
later.

6227
02:49:56,700 --> 02:49:57,830
Best of all, even with all the

6228
02:49:57,830 --> 02:49:59,490
new features, Volkswriter 3 is

6229
02:49:59,490 --> 02:50:01,050
as fast or faster than previous

6230
02:50:01,050 --> 02:50:01,760
versions.

6231
02:50:02,560 --> 02:50:04,190
Basically, Volkswriter was good

6232
02:50:04,190 --> 02:50:05,530
before because of how easy it

6233
02:50:05,530 --> 02:50:06,820
was to get words into it.

6234
02:50:07,200 --> 02:50:08,690
Now, with version 3, it's a lot

6235
02:50:08,690 --> 02:50:10,310
easier to get words out of it,

6236
02:50:10,310 --> 02:50:12,200
looking just the way you want.

6237
02:50:12,500 --> 02:50:13,900
This word processor costs $300

6238
02:50:13,900 --> 02:50:15,580
from Lifetree Software in Monterey,

6239
02:50:15,580 --> 02:50:16,360
California.

6240
02:50:16,360 --> 02:50:18,180
A big smile at the end, usually

6241
02:50:18,180 --> 02:50:19,820
a kind of haunting smile.

6242
02:50:19,840 --> 02:50:21,590
For the Computer Chronicles, I'm

6243
02:50:21,590 --> 02:50:22,380
Paul Schindler.

6244
02:50:23,380 --> 02:50:23,900
The Soviets...

6245
02:50:23,900 --> 02:50:24,560
That was okay.

6246
02:50:24,700 --> 02:50:26,520
The Soviets have invaded.

6247
02:50:27,260 --> 02:50:29,130
The Soviet Union may

6248
02:50:29,130 --> 02:50:31,740
potentially invade one day.

6249
02:50:33,340 --> 02:50:34,160
That's why Sun Microsystems

6250
02:50:34,160 --> 02:50:36,400
have developed a brand new

6251
02:50:36,400 --> 02:50:38,120
Soviet tracker.

6252
02:50:38,380 --> 02:50:39,900
It's TOS News Agency...

6253
02:50:39,900 --> 02:50:40,800
...the way you want.

6254
02:50:41,080 --> 02:50:42,610
This word processor costs $300

6255
02:50:42,610 --> 02:50:44,420
from Lifetree Software in Monterey,

6256
02:50:44,420 --> 02:50:45,240
California.

6257
02:50:45,240 --> 02:50:46,820
For the Computer Chronicles, I'm

6258
02:50:46,820 --> 02:50:47,600
Paul Schindler.

6259
02:50:47,820 --> 02:50:49,720
I've seen heavier Schindler outros

6260
02:50:49,720 --> 02:50:51,600
that are really fucking hard.

6261
02:50:51,820 --> 02:50:53,900
Like, some of them are insane.

6262
02:50:54,540 --> 02:50:55,380
But that's...

6263
02:50:55,380 --> 02:50:55,780
That's...

6264
02:50:55,780 --> 02:50:56,360
That's...

6265
02:50:56,360 --> 02:50:56,960
That's alright.

6266
02:50:56,960 --> 02:50:58,500
That's not bad at all, you know.

6267
02:50:59,220 --> 02:51:00,680
Glyn, thank you very much for

6268
02:51:00,680 --> 02:51:02,000
the tip there.

6269
02:51:02,220 --> 02:51:03,510
The Soviets' TOS News Agency

6270
02:51:03,510 --> 02:51:05,170
has announced that its English

6271
02:51:05,170 --> 02:51:06,750
language service will soon go

6272
02:51:06,750 --> 02:51:07,420
online.

6273
02:51:07,800 --> 02:51:09,520
You can access the Russian newswire

6274
02:51:09,520 --> 02:51:11,130
via Reuters or the Canadian

6275
02:51:11,130 --> 02:51:13,120
press service on CompuServe.

6276
02:51:13,580 --> 02:51:15,410
Finally, the NBA Super Bowl was

6277
02:51:15,410 --> 02:51:16,880
held last weekend.

6278
02:51:17,040 --> 02:51:18,340
Three teams of NBA students at

6279
02:51:18,340 --> 02:51:19,730
Stanford, Harvard, and the

6280
02:51:19,730 --> 02:51:21,530
University of Pennsylvania all

6281
02:51:21,530 --> 02:51:22,790
played the Wizard of Wall

6282
02:51:22,790 --> 02:51:23,220
Street,

6283
02:51:23,220 --> 02:51:24,720
a stock market simulation game

6284
02:51:24,720 --> 02:51:25,910
to see which team of NBA's

6285
02:51:25,910 --> 02:51:27,380
could make the most money.

6286
02:51:27,380 --> 02:51:29,180
No results yet, but the winning

6287
02:51:29,180 --> 02:51:30,860
team will get a real cash prize

6288
02:51:30,860 --> 02:51:32,260
of $1,000.

6289
02:51:32,260 --> 02:51:33,800
That's it for this week's Chronicles.

6290
02:51:33,800 --> 02:51:34,480
That's it for this week's Chronicles.

6291
02:51:34,480 --> 02:51:35,480
We'll see you next time.

6292
02:51:35,480 --> 02:51:36,640
This week's Chronicles.

6293
02:51:36,640 --> 02:51:38,440
The Computer Chronicles is made

6294
02:51:38,440 --> 02:51:39,930
possible in part by a grant

6295
02:51:39,930 --> 02:51:41,360
from AFIPS, the American

6296
02:51:41,360 --> 02:51:42,900
Federation of Information

6297
02:51:42,900 --> 02:51:44,520
Processing Societies.

6298
02:51:44,920 --> 02:51:47,060
AFIPS, sponsors of OAC 86, the

6299
02:51:47,060 --> 02:51:49,290
nation's leading conference on

6300
02:51:49,290 --> 02:51:51,140
business technology.

6301
02:51:51,520 --> 02:51:52,660
For conference information,

6302
02:51:52,660 --> 02:51:53,900
call 800-OAC-86.

6303
02:51:53,900 --> 02:51:57,000
I haven't heard this audio bit.

6304
02:51:57,140 --> 02:51:59,140
This dun, dun, dun.

6305
02:52:00,300 --> 02:52:01,290
It's a different vibe, but OAC

6306
02:52:01,290 --> 02:52:03,710
86 sounds like it was a fucking

6307
02:52:03,710 --> 02:52:04,400
hoot.

6308
02:52:04,480 --> 02:52:06,360
Conference on AFIPS, sponsors

6309
02:52:06,360 --> 02:52:08,520
of OAC 86, the nation's leading

6310
02:52:08,520 --> 02:52:09,950
conference on business

6311
02:52:09,950 --> 02:52:10,960
technology.

6312
02:52:10,960 --> 02:52:13,140
For conference information,

6313
02:52:13,140 --> 02:52:15,780
call 800-OAC-1986.

6314
02:52:16,400 --> 02:52:17,730
Exploring today's business

6315
02:52:17,730 --> 02:52:18,420
solutions.

6316
02:52:19,180 --> 02:52:20,400
Additional funding is provided

6317
02:52:20,400 --> 02:52:22,360
by McGraw-Hill, publishers of

6318
02:52:22,360 --> 02:52:22,940
Byte.

6319
02:52:23,320 --> 02:52:24,470
Byte's detailed technical

6320
02:52:24,470 --> 02:52:25,980
articles on new hardware,

6321
02:52:25,980 --> 02:52:27,790
software, and languages cover

6322
02:52:27,790 --> 02:52:29,360
the latest in microcomputer

6323
02:52:29,360 --> 02:52:30,900
technology worldwide.

6324
02:52:31,460 --> 02:52:32,500
Byte, the international

6325
02:52:32,500 --> 02:52:33,360
standard.

6326
02:52:35,200 --> 02:52:36,500
Brilliant still.

6327
02:52:37,500 --> 02:52:38,580
That was your man, look.

6328
02:52:38,580 --> 02:52:40,890
Dr. Van Boser, or whatever his

6329
02:52:40,890 --> 02:52:42,380
fucking name was.

6330
02:52:43,420 --> 02:52:46,960
Stick in the John McEnroe head.

6331
02:52:48,880 --> 02:52:50,840
Band and wig on your one.

6332
02:52:53,840 --> 02:52:55,880
Inside the egg with Bozze.

6333
02:52:57,660 --> 02:52:59,860
Lovely fucking C64 shot.

6334
02:52:59,920 --> 02:53:01,050
Why are they just using the

6335
02:53:01,050 --> 02:53:02,100
shots from that VT?

6336
02:53:06,200 --> 02:53:07,700
Situation box.

6337
02:53:09,700 --> 02:53:13,560
Dr. Bozze's crazy situation box.

6338
02:53:13,700 --> 02:53:14,300
Peripheral.

6339
02:53:16,120 --> 02:53:17,240
Smiling sun.

6340
02:53:26,160 --> 02:53:27,000
Yes.

6341
02:53:30,160 --> 02:53:32,060
Lovely, lovely stuff.

6342
02:53:32,740 --> 02:53:33,520
A great episode.

6343
02:53:33,520 --> 02:53:36,090
You know, I'm really getting

6344
02:53:36,090 --> 02:53:38,660
into these early seasons.

6345
02:53:39,160 --> 02:53:40,340
I didn't think I was ever going

6346
02:53:40,340 --> 02:53:41,980
to be fucking bothered about

6347
02:53:41,980 --> 02:53:43,180
them, you know?

6348
02:53:43,260 --> 02:53:44,620
I was worried that it was just

6349
02:53:44,620 --> 02:53:46,180
going to be the later series,

6350
02:53:46,180 --> 02:53:47,560
or season, whatever way you

6351
02:53:47,560 --> 02:53:48,460
want to say it.

6352
02:53:49,160 --> 02:53:50,740
Because of the pace and tonality

6353
02:53:50,740 --> 02:53:52,680
of it, like, you know?

6354
02:53:52,900 --> 02:53:55,330
But, you know, give it a bit of

6355
02:53:55,330 --> 02:53:56,120
time.

6356
02:53:56,320 --> 02:53:57,640
It's got some stuff in it.

6357
02:53:57,760 --> 02:53:59,510
So there's usually some good

6358
02:53:59,510 --> 02:54:01,360
nuggets, and it's interesting

6359
02:54:01,360 --> 02:54:02,970
to see some of the weird shit

6360
02:54:02,970 --> 02:54:05,210
that was going on, like Dr. Bozze's

6361
02:54:05,210 --> 02:54:06,400
egg job there.

6362
02:54:07,520 --> 02:54:10,390
Crazy Dr. Eggman's fucking Commodore

6363
02:54:10,390 --> 02:54:12,580
64 psycho box.

6364
02:54:14,260 --> 02:54:15,980
And that psychotherapist or

6365
02:54:15,980 --> 02:54:17,870
psychiatrist that was aloof as

6366
02:54:17,870 --> 02:54:20,100
well, the ghoul master himself.

6367
02:54:21,040 --> 02:54:23,130
That was just a nice character

6368
02:54:23,130 --> 02:54:24,950
study of someone who was

6369
02:54:24,950 --> 02:54:27,350
failing to generate empathy

6370
02:54:27,350 --> 02:54:31,120
with tone, body language, and

6371
02:54:31,120 --> 02:54:32,800
whatnot, and words.

6372
02:54:34,460 --> 02:54:36,930
But just to finish the

6373
02:54:36,930 --> 02:54:38,960
situation, I think it could be

6374
02:54:38,960 --> 02:54:41,660
a great palate cleanser just to

6375
02:54:41,660 --> 02:54:43,140
net cafe it up.

6376
02:54:43,900 --> 02:54:45,140
And look at this.

6377
02:54:45,880 --> 02:54:46,940
Fantastic stuff.

6378
02:54:47,100 --> 02:54:48,180
Haven't really ticked...

6379
02:54:48,180 --> 02:54:49,680
The only thing is, we haven't

6380
02:54:49,680 --> 02:54:50,870
ticked off any of these

6381
02:54:50,870 --> 02:54:51,560
episodes.

6382
02:54:51,700 --> 02:54:53,020
I'm not particularly too sure.

6383
02:54:53,680 --> 02:54:54,940
Possibly the Kron's Tracker

6384
02:54:54,940 --> 02:54:57,330
5000 may have more intel on

6385
02:54:57,330 --> 02:54:59,200
what net cafe episodes have

6386
02:54:59,200 --> 02:55:00,120
been seen.

6387
02:55:00,580 --> 02:55:00,960
Twisted!

6388
02:55:00,960 --> 02:55:02,510
I mean, there's already a few

6389
02:55:02,510 --> 02:55:03,880
that have been marked.

6390
02:55:05,040 --> 02:55:06,130
So I'm going to have to really

6391
02:55:06,130 --> 02:55:08,180
maybe look at these and then

6392
02:55:08,180 --> 02:55:10,450
transfer over to Dara's site as

6393
02:55:10,450 --> 02:55:11,140
well.

6394
02:55:11,980 --> 02:55:13,120
I'm Stuart Shiffey.

6395
02:55:13,220 --> 02:55:13,580
Twisted!

6396
02:55:16,420 --> 02:55:20,780
96, 97, 98, 99, 2000, 2001,

6397
02:55:20,780 --> 02:55:22,640
2002.

6398
02:55:25,140 --> 02:55:26,340
Is the site public?

6399
02:55:26,460 --> 02:55:27,000
It is, Gary.

6400
02:55:27,000 --> 02:55:29,360
Yeah, this is the Kron's Tracker

6401
02:55:29,360 --> 02:55:31,760
5000 made by Sam Lee.

6402
02:55:32,840 --> 02:55:34,970
And the other one is the Viper

6403
02:55:34,970 --> 02:55:38,100
Chronicles made by Dara.

6404
02:55:38,740 --> 02:55:41,650
And I've been checking the list

6405
02:55:41,650 --> 02:55:44,360
on these ones, you know.

6406
02:55:44,440 --> 02:55:45,620
Every time we watch or an

6407
02:55:45,620 --> 02:55:47,230
episode is done, I'll just

6408
02:55:47,230 --> 02:55:48,200
check it off here.

6409
02:55:48,260 --> 02:55:50,000
But I haven't kept up with the

6410
02:55:50,000 --> 02:55:51,960
Kron's Tracker, but I think Sam

6411
02:55:51,960 --> 02:55:53,540
has fucking put it in.

6412
02:55:53,600 --> 02:55:56,240
He let me know there that I can

6413
02:55:56,240 --> 02:55:58,800
log in and mark them off.

6414
02:55:58,860 --> 02:56:00,520
So I will do it in time.

6415
02:56:00,700 --> 02:56:02,130
I just always fucking forget

6416
02:56:02,130 --> 02:56:02,840
about it.

6417
02:56:03,020 --> 02:56:04,020
Jamesy, thank you very much,

6418
02:56:04,020 --> 02:56:04,860
man, for the tip.

6419
02:56:05,220 --> 02:56:05,900
Very kind of you.

6420
02:56:06,300 --> 02:56:08,500
So I don't know.

6421
02:56:08,620 --> 02:56:12,340
Fucking 96, 97, 98, 99, 2000.

6422
02:56:12,520 --> 02:56:14,060
I'm surprised that they got,

6423
02:56:14,060 --> 02:56:15,960
what is it, six, seven years.

6424
02:56:16,240 --> 02:56:18,000
One, two, three, four, five,

6425
02:56:18,000 --> 02:56:18,480
six.

6426
02:56:18,600 --> 02:56:19,980
Seven years of Netcafé.

6427
02:56:21,120 --> 02:56:21,880
It's mad.

6428
02:56:22,220 --> 02:56:26,160
And over 20 years of the Krons.

6429
02:56:26,820 --> 02:56:28,220
I'm Stuart Shiffey.

6430
02:56:29,820 --> 02:56:30,940
19 series.

6431
02:56:34,140 --> 02:56:34,620
Twisted!

6432
02:56:36,140 --> 02:56:39,480
Yes, I don't know.

6433
02:56:40,380 --> 02:56:41,340
Women on the web.

6434
02:56:41,460 --> 02:56:42,400
The 3D web.

6435
02:56:43,120 --> 02:56:44,600
Music, movies, writers.

6436
02:56:45,540 --> 02:56:46,560
Electronic communities.

6437
02:56:46,760 --> 02:56:47,740
Weird science.

6438
02:56:49,020 --> 02:56:49,650
I just get the feeling that

6439
02:56:49,650 --> 02:56:51,160
that has been seen.

6440
02:56:52,860 --> 02:56:54,600
And it hasn't been marked off.

6441
02:56:54,760 --> 02:56:56,320
Quick, quick delve into it.

6442
02:57:05,980 --> 02:57:15,120
Tell the way, boys.

6443
02:57:15,120 --> 02:57:19,260
I'm going to turn this up.

6444
02:57:19,260 --> 02:57:21,250
Internet cafe, weird science on

6445
02:57:21,250 --> 02:57:21,940
the web.

6446
02:57:22,360 --> 02:57:23,320
This is the homepage for the

6447
02:57:23,320 --> 02:57:25,000
annals of improbable research,

6448
02:57:25,000 --> 02:57:26,380
where you can find out about

6449
02:57:26,380 --> 02:57:28,000
the weirdest experiments.

6450
02:57:28,660 --> 02:57:29,660
This man is a rocket scientist.

6451
02:57:29,660 --> 02:57:29,660
This man is a rocket scientist.

6452
02:57:29,660 --> 02:57:30,790
This man is a rocket scientist

6453
02:57:30,790 --> 02:57:31,800
who likes to drive fast like

6454
02:57:31,800 --> 02:57:32,400
700.

6455
02:57:32,400 --> 02:57:35,020
I like to drive fast.

6456
02:57:35,480 --> 02:57:36,380
100 miles an hour.

6457
02:57:37,120 --> 02:57:38,400
How many miles an hour?

6458
02:57:38,400 --> 02:57:38,400
How many miles an hour?

6459
02:57:38,400 --> 02:57:39,350
I just need to see those

6460
02:57:39,350 --> 02:57:39,960
pictures.

6461
02:57:39,960 --> 02:57:41,380
The images were obscured

6462
02:57:41,380 --> 02:57:42,920
because I was trying to turn

6463
02:57:42,920 --> 02:57:44,470
the decibels up on the audio

6464
02:57:44,470 --> 02:57:46,080
here for Internet Cafe.

6465
02:57:46,260 --> 02:57:47,600
Charlie, hee-haw.

6466
02:57:47,680 --> 02:57:48,340
Thank you very much.

6467
02:57:48,340 --> 02:57:49,820
The Internet Cafe, weird

6468
02:57:49,820 --> 02:57:51,080
science on the web.

6469
02:57:51,480 --> 02:57:52,460
This is the homepage for the

6470
02:57:52,460 --> 02:57:54,140
annals of improbable research,

6471
02:57:54,140 --> 02:57:55,560
where you can find out about

6472
02:57:55,560 --> 02:57:57,120
the weirdest experiments.

6473
02:57:57,780 --> 02:57:59,410
This man is a rocket scientist

6474
02:57:59,410 --> 02:58:00,880
who likes to drive fast like

6475
02:58:00,880 --> 02:58:02,460
700 miles an hour.

6476
02:58:02,460 --> 02:58:03,900
He wants to help set the world

6477
02:58:03,900 --> 02:58:05,040
land speed record.

6478
02:58:05,660 --> 02:58:06,440
Always wanted to be a gardener

6479
02:58:06,440 --> 02:58:07,840
but didn't have a garden?

6480
02:58:08,240 --> 02:58:09,440
Check out the Telegarden, a

6481
02:58:09,440 --> 02:58:11,180
virtual communal garden on the

6482
02:58:11,180 --> 02:58:11,660
web.

6483
02:58:12,180 --> 02:58:13,820
Plus weird science software for

6484
02:58:13,820 --> 02:58:14,320
you.

6485
02:58:14,580 --> 02:58:15,810
Program X, a database of

6486
02:58:15,810 --> 02:58:17,660
strange fringe science, and a

6487
02:58:17,660 --> 02:58:19,300
clip from young...

6488
02:58:19,300 --> 02:58:21,340
Strange fringe science.

6489
02:58:21,700 --> 02:58:24,090
You notice Stu's cadence and

6490
02:58:24,090 --> 02:58:26,920
delivery and intonation.

6491
02:58:27,120 --> 02:58:28,560
He's a different animal.

6492
02:58:28,680 --> 02:58:30,220
He's an animal at this stage.

6493
02:58:30,620 --> 02:58:32,400
He's stopped playing safe ball.

6494
02:58:32,840 --> 02:58:33,760
He's stopped being nice.

6495
02:58:33,840 --> 02:58:35,320
No more Mr. Nice Stu.

6496
02:58:36,580 --> 02:58:39,170
He was, you know, a beast at

6497
02:58:39,170 --> 02:58:41,180
this stage.

6498
02:58:41,300 --> 02:58:42,840
Frankenstein coming to you in

6499
02:58:42,840 --> 02:58:43,960
our cyber blast.

6500
02:58:44,320 --> 02:58:45,040
Cyber blast.

6501
02:58:45,040 --> 02:58:45,620
Weird science on the web.

6502
02:58:45,960 --> 02:58:47,020
This week at the internet.

6503
02:58:47,580 --> 02:58:48,180
Frankenstein?

6504
02:58:48,900 --> 02:58:50,740
At our cyber blast.

6505
02:58:51,160 --> 02:58:51,760
Internet cafe.

6506
02:58:52,800 --> 02:58:53,720
The internet cafe is made

6507
02:58:53,720 --> 02:58:56,020
possible in part by Intel.

6508
02:58:56,600 --> 02:58:57,660
One innovative idea always

6509
02:58:57,660 --> 02:58:58,880
leads to another.

6510
02:58:59,360 --> 02:59:00,450
Now there are connected CD-ROMs

6511
02:59:00,450 --> 02:59:02,000
that link rich multimedia with

6512
02:59:02,000 --> 02:59:03,360
related information on the

6513
02:59:03,360 --> 02:59:04,100
internet.

6514
02:59:04,700 --> 02:59:05,940
For connected CD-ROMs, it's the

6515
02:59:05,940 --> 02:59:07,660
Intel Pentium processor.

6516
02:59:09,580 --> 02:59:10,600
Boom, boom, boom, boom.

6517
02:59:11,220 --> 02:59:14,230
What an iconic sound signature

6518
02:59:14,230 --> 02:59:17,580
for the brand of Intel that was.

6519
02:59:18,140 --> 02:59:19,560
For just brands in general.

6520
02:59:19,560 --> 02:59:20,960
It really was.

6521
02:59:21,260 --> 02:59:23,870
It ruled the roost in terms of

6522
02:59:23,870 --> 02:59:27,100
auditory sound signifiers for

6523
02:59:27,100 --> 02:59:28,240
brands.

6524
02:59:29,600 --> 02:59:31,140
It's up there with Danone.

6525
02:59:31,560 --> 02:59:32,880
But it definitely shat all over

6526
02:59:32,880 --> 02:59:33,540
Danone.

6527
02:59:34,980 --> 02:59:36,260
Intel Pentium processor.

6528
02:59:36,380 --> 02:59:37,060
And where are they now?

6529
02:59:37,120 --> 02:59:38,580
Intel are not anywhere now.

6530
02:59:38,660 --> 02:59:40,950
Because the other fucking

6531
02:59:40,950 --> 02:59:43,610
processors are kicking their

6532
02:59:43,610 --> 02:59:44,220
ass.

6533
02:59:48,180 --> 02:59:48,780
Hi and welcome to the internet

6534
02:59:48,780 --> 02:59:50,080
cafe.

6535
02:59:50,080 --> 02:59:51,430
I'm Stuart Chiffey here with

6536
02:59:51,430 --> 02:59:53,080
Jane Wither, Andrew DeVries.

6537
02:59:53,280 --> 02:59:54,470
We're at Cybersmith in Palo

6538
02:59:54,470 --> 02:59:55,640
Alto, California.

6539
02:59:55,800 --> 02:59:57,120
A cyber cafe here.

6540
02:59:57,580 --> 02:59:58,960
Sorry for fucking stopping it

6541
02:59:58,960 --> 02:59:59,420
again.

6542
02:59:59,500 --> 03:00:01,610
But I just want to again

6543
03:00:01,610 --> 03:00:04,610
reiterate how sad I am that I'll

6544
03:00:04,610 --> 03:00:07,840
never get to be in Cybersmith.

6545
03:00:08,180 --> 03:00:08,940
The cafe.

6546
03:00:09,060 --> 03:00:11,030
The internet cafe in the late

6547
03:00:11,030 --> 03:00:11,940
90s.

6548
03:00:13,080 --> 03:00:15,360
In Palo Alto, California.

6549
03:00:15,480 --> 03:00:16,080
The hotbed.

6550
03:00:16,740 --> 03:00:17,500
The fucking hub.

6551
03:00:18,780 --> 03:00:19,820
You know, the ground zero of

6552
03:00:19,820 --> 03:00:22,060
where all this shit was going

6553
03:00:22,060 --> 03:00:22,600
on.

6554
03:00:22,600 --> 03:00:24,110
And you'd see people like this

6555
03:00:24,110 --> 03:00:24,660
fella.

6556
03:00:24,900 --> 03:00:25,620
Just hanging out.

6557
03:00:25,820 --> 03:00:26,500
Having a coffee.

6558
03:00:28,040 --> 03:00:29,100
Browsing the web.

6559
03:00:29,540 --> 03:00:30,500
Scrolling the wheel.

6560
03:00:30,760 --> 03:00:31,120
Yahoo.

6561
03:00:32,240 --> 03:00:32,840
Hotmail.

6562
03:00:33,700 --> 03:00:34,360
MSN.

6563
03:00:36,100 --> 03:00:37,420
All the big players.

6564
03:00:38,440 --> 03:00:38,610
Here in the heart of the

6565
03:00:38,610 --> 03:00:39,680
Silicon Valley.

6566
03:00:39,840 --> 03:00:40,460
And we're talking about...

6567
03:00:40,460 --> 03:00:41,300
Soft seats.

6568
03:00:42,040 --> 03:00:43,420
Creamy cappuccinos.

6569
03:00:44,300 --> 03:00:46,260
Weird science on the web today.

6570
03:00:46,260 --> 03:00:48,260
It probably got like...

6571
03:00:48,260 --> 03:00:50,870
Jenga and fucking magazines as

6572
03:00:50,870 --> 03:00:51,600
well.

6573
03:00:51,660 --> 03:00:53,300
Even if you didn't want to just...

6574
03:00:53,300 --> 03:00:54,240
Go on the computer.

6575
03:00:55,100 --> 03:00:56,140
Ask Jeeves.

6576
03:00:58,100 --> 03:00:58,580
AltaVista.

6577
03:00:58,900 --> 03:00:59,340
Netscape.

6578
03:00:59,620 --> 03:01:00,140
Lysos.

6579
03:01:00,340 --> 03:01:00,820
Lycos.

6580
03:01:00,900 --> 03:01:01,700
Remember the dog.

6581
03:01:04,780 --> 03:01:06,040
Personalised mouse pads.

6582
03:01:06,140 --> 03:01:06,700
We've seen it.

6583
03:01:06,740 --> 03:01:07,980
There was an episode where...

6584
03:01:07,980 --> 03:01:09,420
Stu got his face on the mouse

6585
03:01:09,420 --> 03:01:09,820
pad.

6586
03:01:09,900 --> 03:01:10,960
Talking about the other day.

6587
03:01:11,140 --> 03:01:12,020
Chairman mouse.

6588
03:01:12,180 --> 03:01:12,900
Chairman Stu.

6589
03:01:13,180 --> 03:01:14,180
Chairman mouse pad.

6590
03:01:15,480 --> 03:01:16,020
AOL.

6591
03:01:17,020 --> 03:01:18,020
Strange experiments.

6592
03:01:18,020 --> 03:01:19,280
I had a collection of dolls

6593
03:01:19,280 --> 03:01:20,100
that went on.

6594
03:01:20,320 --> 03:01:20,720
Scientific experiments.

6595
03:01:20,720 --> 03:01:21,500
I don't mean those kinds of

6596
03:01:21,500 --> 03:01:22,060
experiments.

6597
03:01:22,060 --> 03:01:23,580
Andrew had a collection of

6598
03:01:23,580 --> 03:01:24,160
dolls.

6599
03:01:24,500 --> 03:01:24,860
Experiments.

6600
03:01:25,000 --> 03:01:26,360
I had a good science on the...

6601
03:01:26,360 --> 03:01:26,740
California.

6602
03:01:26,920 --> 03:01:27,520
Cyber cafe.

6603
03:01:28,000 --> 03:01:28,780
Here in the heart of the...

6604
03:01:28,780 --> 03:01:29,500
Cyber cafe.

6605
03:01:29,500 --> 03:01:31,060
Talking about weird science on

6606
03:01:31,060 --> 03:01:31,940
the web today.

6607
03:01:32,300 --> 03:01:33,660
Did you do weird stuff as a kid?

6608
03:01:33,960 --> 03:01:36,160
Did you do weird stuff as a kid?

6609
03:01:36,240 --> 03:01:36,960
I need a piss.

6610
03:01:37,600 --> 03:01:38,850
I'll just leave it plain, but I'm

6611
03:01:38,850 --> 03:01:39,720
going to have to repeat it

6612
03:01:39,720 --> 03:01:40,660
again in 30 seconds.

6613
03:01:41,120 --> 03:01:43,080
But I like the way Stu says

6614
03:01:43,080 --> 03:01:44,740
weird things on the web.

6615
03:01:44,800 --> 03:01:46,360
Did you do weird stuff as a kid?

6616
03:01:46,800 --> 03:01:48,260
We're talking about weird

6617
03:01:48,260 --> 03:01:50,300
science on the web today.

6618
03:01:50,620 --> 03:01:52,140
Did you do weird stuff as a kid?

6619
03:01:52,240 --> 03:01:52,420
Yeah.

6620
03:01:53,740 --> 03:01:56,310
We get to see the trademark Stu

6621
03:01:56,310 --> 03:01:58,000
maneuver.

6622
03:01:59,680 --> 03:02:00,960
Just everything.

6623
03:02:01,120 --> 03:02:02,710
Look at Andrew's leather jacket

6624
03:02:02,710 --> 03:02:03,360
as well.

6625
03:02:04,780 --> 03:02:06,120
It's probably hot in there.

6626
03:02:07,460 --> 03:02:07,730
I had a collection of dolls

6627
03:02:07,730 --> 03:02:09,210
that went on scientific

6628
03:02:09,210 --> 03:02:10,300
experiments.

6629
03:02:10,300 --> 03:02:11,040
I don't mean those kinds of

6630
03:02:11,040 --> 03:02:11,560
experiments.

6631
03:02:11,560 --> 03:02:12,000
No, no.

6632
03:02:12,040 --> 03:02:13,110
I had a Planet of the Apes

6633
03:02:13,110 --> 03:02:14,390
dolls and Evel Knievel was a

6634
03:02:14,390 --> 03:02:15,420
really huge doll.

6635
03:02:15,580 --> 03:02:16,330
And we did these G-Force

6636
03:02:16,330 --> 03:02:17,020
experiments.

6637
03:02:17,140 --> 03:02:18,100
We'd crank this thing up and

6638
03:02:18,100 --> 03:02:19,030
shoot it off as fast as it

6639
03:02:19,030 --> 03:02:19,640
would go.

6640
03:02:19,740 --> 03:02:20,520
And we'd try to shoot it

6641
03:02:20,520 --> 03:02:21,760
through people's windows.

6642
03:02:22,080 --> 03:02:22,700
Did you succeed?

6643
03:02:23,020 --> 03:02:23,580
We did.

6644
03:02:23,980 --> 03:02:24,760
I got in some trouble.

6645
03:02:24,760 --> 03:02:25,040
Roke a couple of windows?

6646
03:02:25,200 --> 03:02:25,440
Yes.

6647
03:02:25,440 --> 03:02:26,350
And that was a whole other

6648
03:02:26,350 --> 03:02:26,740
story.

6649
03:02:26,920 --> 03:02:27,630
Now, were you a very good

6650
03:02:27,630 --> 03:02:28,650
little girl and you didn't do

6651
03:02:28,650 --> 03:02:29,620
any of this bad stuff?

6652
03:02:30,000 --> 03:02:31,630
Well, on the topic of the dolls,

6653
03:02:31,630 --> 03:02:32,720
actually, no.

6654
03:02:32,800 --> 03:02:33,630
That's the valley of the dolls,

6655
03:02:33,630 --> 03:02:34,460
not the topic of the dolls.

6656
03:02:34,460 --> 03:02:34,980
Yeah, exactly.

6657
03:02:35,100 --> 03:02:35,610
That was your area of

6658
03:02:35,610 --> 03:02:36,340
experimentation.

6659
03:02:36,340 --> 03:02:36,740
I don't think I really want to

6660
03:02:36,740 --> 03:02:37,060
talk about it.

6661
03:02:37,240 --> 03:02:38,360
Well, I did a lot of the stuff.

6662
03:02:38,420 --> 03:02:39,240
I was really into science.

6663
03:02:39,320 --> 03:02:40,210
Had the chemistry sets and

6664
03:02:40,210 --> 03:02:40,600
stuff.

6665
03:02:40,720 --> 03:02:41,620
You know, it said if you mix

6666
03:02:41,620 --> 03:02:42,730
the yellow powder with the red

6667
03:02:42,730 --> 03:02:44,140
powder, you get a lot of smoke.

6668
03:02:44,460 --> 03:02:45,550
Well, I mixed a lot of yellow

6669
03:02:45,550 --> 03:02:46,880
powder and a lot of red powder.

6670
03:02:46,960 --> 03:02:48,200
I got a lot of smoke and flames.

6671
03:02:48,460 --> 03:02:49,310
I almost burned down my furnace

6672
03:02:49,310 --> 03:02:49,700
house.

6673
03:02:49,880 --> 03:02:50,590
So I've had a lot of

6674
03:02:50,590 --> 03:02:52,060
experiments, experience in

6675
03:02:52,060 --> 03:02:53,000
weird science.

6676
03:02:53,300 --> 03:02:54,230
Today, we're going to take a

6677
03:02:54,230 --> 03:02:55,410
look at what you can find out

6678
03:02:55,410 --> 03:02:56,720
on the web about weird science

6679
03:02:56,720 --> 03:02:57,560
experiments.

6680
03:02:57,900 --> 03:02:59,120
This week, here at the...

6681
03:02:59,120 --> 03:02:59,900
What did I miss?

6682
03:03:01,100 --> 03:03:01,940
The cringe.

6683
03:03:02,320 --> 03:03:02,720
Twisted.

6684
03:03:06,220 --> 03:03:08,100
Sorry, I just need to...

6685
03:03:08,100 --> 03:03:08,900
I just heard...

6686
03:03:08,900 --> 03:03:10,350
All I heard was him saying, I

6687
03:03:10,350 --> 03:03:11,540
used to have some dolls.

6688
03:03:11,700 --> 03:03:12,580
And that's when I left it.

6689
03:03:12,580 --> 03:03:13,280
On the web today.

6690
03:03:13,620 --> 03:03:15,120
Did you do weird stuff as a kid?

6691
03:03:15,300 --> 03:03:16,300
Strange experiments?

6692
03:03:16,320 --> 03:03:17,270
Yeah, I had a collection of

6693
03:03:17,270 --> 03:03:18,330
dolls that went on scientific

6694
03:03:18,330 --> 03:03:19,020
experiments.

6695
03:03:19,020 --> 03:03:19,800
I don't mean those kinds of

6696
03:03:19,800 --> 03:03:20,340
experiments.

6697
03:03:20,340 --> 03:03:20,760
No, no.

6698
03:03:20,800 --> 03:03:21,630
I had a Planet of the Apes

6699
03:03:21,630 --> 03:03:21,980
dolls.

6700
03:03:22,140 --> 03:03:23,430
And Evel Knievel was a really

6701
03:03:23,430 --> 03:03:24,180
huge doll.

6702
03:03:24,300 --> 03:03:25,090
And we did these G-Force

6703
03:03:25,090 --> 03:03:25,800
experiments.

6704
03:03:25,900 --> 03:03:26,880
We'd crank this thing up and

6705
03:03:26,880 --> 03:03:27,810
shoot it off as fast as it

6706
03:03:27,810 --> 03:03:28,400
would go.

6707
03:03:28,500 --> 03:03:29,270
And we'd try to shoot it

6708
03:03:29,270 --> 03:03:30,480
through people's windows.

6709
03:03:30,840 --> 03:03:31,540
Did you succeed?

6710
03:03:31,780 --> 03:03:32,360
We did.

6711
03:03:32,580 --> 03:03:33,520
And I got in some trouble.

6712
03:03:33,520 --> 03:03:33,760
Broke a couple windows?

6713
03:03:33,980 --> 03:03:34,220
Yes.

6714
03:03:34,220 --> 03:03:34,840
And that was...

6715
03:03:34,840 --> 03:03:36,060
Look the size of Stu.

6716
03:03:37,580 --> 03:03:38,500
That desk.

6717
03:03:39,060 --> 03:03:39,680
That table.

6718
03:03:39,680 --> 03:03:39,900
People's...

6719
03:03:39,900 --> 03:03:43,140
This is his table.

6720
03:03:43,140 --> 03:03:43,540
Windows.

6721
03:03:43,820 --> 03:03:44,620
Did you succeed?

6722
03:03:44,860 --> 03:03:45,440
We did.

6723
03:03:45,820 --> 03:03:46,620
I got in some trouble.

6724
03:03:46,620 --> 03:03:46,860
Broke a couple windows?

6725
03:03:47,060 --> 03:03:47,340
Yes.

6726
03:03:47,480 --> 03:03:48,230
And that was a whole other

6727
03:03:48,230 --> 03:03:48,600
story.

6728
03:03:48,780 --> 03:03:49,490
Now, were you a very good

6729
03:03:49,490 --> 03:03:50,510
little girl and you didn't do

6730
03:03:50,510 --> 03:03:51,460
any of this bad stuff?

6731
03:03:51,820 --> 03:03:53,800
Well, on the topic of the dolls...

6732
03:03:53,800 --> 03:03:54,580
Actually, no.

6733
03:03:54,640 --> 03:03:55,480
That's the valley of the dolls,

6734
03:03:55,480 --> 03:03:56,300
not the topic of the dolls.

6735
03:03:56,300 --> 03:03:56,800
Yeah, exactly.

6736
03:03:56,960 --> 03:03:57,480
That was your area of

6737
03:03:57,480 --> 03:03:58,200
experimentation.

6738
03:03:58,920 --> 03:04:00,220
Well, I did a lot of this stuff.

6739
03:04:00,280 --> 03:04:01,100
I was really into science.

6740
03:04:01,320 --> 03:04:02,480
What happened there?

6741
03:04:02,560 --> 03:04:03,380
...recepts and stuff.

6742
03:04:03,500 --> 03:04:04,300
You know, it said if you mix

6743
03:04:04,300 --> 03:04:05,410
the yellow powder with the red

6744
03:04:05,410 --> 03:04:06,940
powder, you get a lot of smoke.

6745
03:04:06,940 --> 03:04:08,170
Well, I mixed a lot of yellow

6746
03:04:08,170 --> 03:04:09,450
powder with a lot of red powder

6747
03:04:09,450 --> 03:04:10,980
with a lot of smoke and flames.

6748
03:04:11,240 --> 03:04:12,130
I almost burned down my parents'

6749
03:04:12,130 --> 03:04:12,500
house.

6750
03:04:12,680 --> 03:04:13,250
So I've had a lot of

6751
03:04:13,250 --> 03:04:14,020
experiments.

6752
03:04:14,400 --> 03:04:15,280
And flames.

6753
03:04:15,860 --> 03:04:16,840
Almost burned down my parents'

6754
03:04:16,840 --> 03:04:17,360
house.

6755
03:04:18,300 --> 03:04:19,200
Mix the yellow powder with the

6756
03:04:19,200 --> 03:04:20,860
red powder, you get a lot of

6757
03:04:20,860 --> 03:04:21,480
smoke.

6758
03:04:21,760 --> 03:04:22,710
Well, I mixed a lot of yellow

6759
03:04:22,710 --> 03:04:24,180
powder and a lot of red powder.

6760
03:04:24,260 --> 03:04:25,520
I got a lot of smoke and flames.

6761
03:04:25,780 --> 03:04:26,640
I almost burned down my parents'

6762
03:04:26,640 --> 03:04:27,020
house.

6763
03:04:27,120 --> 03:04:27,820
So I've had a lot of

6764
03:04:27,820 --> 03:04:28,620
experiments.

6765
03:04:29,060 --> 03:04:30,320
Experience and weird science.

6766
03:04:30,520 --> 03:04:31,640
Today we're going to take a

6767
03:04:31,640 --> 03:04:32,790
look at what you can find out

6768
03:04:32,790 --> 03:04:34,070
on the web about weird science

6769
03:04:34,070 --> 03:04:34,900
experiments.

6770
03:04:35,320 --> 03:04:36,500
This week, here at the Internet

6771
03:04:36,500 --> 03:04:36,940
Cafe.

6772
03:04:38,940 --> 03:04:40,080
So Amy, you...

6773
03:04:40,080 --> 03:04:41,430
This week, here at the Internet

6774
03:04:41,430 --> 03:04:41,820
Cafe.

6775
03:04:41,820 --> 03:04:41,820
...Iconic transition.

6776
03:04:41,820 --> 03:04:41,860
...Iconic transition.

6777
03:04:41,860 --> 03:04:41,900
...Iconic transition.

6778
03:04:48,900 --> 03:04:49,140
Look at that.

6779
03:04:54,820 --> 03:04:56,400
So Amy, you are a researcher at

6780
03:04:56,400 --> 03:04:57,780
Stanford University.

6781
03:04:58,200 --> 03:04:59,460
And you're also the webmaster

6782
03:04:59,460 --> 03:05:01,120
for the annals of...

6783
03:05:01,120 --> 03:05:02,060
Apologies there.

6784
03:05:02,220 --> 03:05:02,480
Is...

6785
03:05:02,480 --> 03:05:03,120
Is...

6786
03:05:03,120 --> 03:05:04,870
From what I can hear, because I

6787
03:05:04,870 --> 03:05:06,220
haven't got the headphones on.

6788
03:05:06,780 --> 03:05:07,480
The sound...

6789
03:05:08,400 --> 03:05:09,320
Sounds like it's coming through

6790
03:05:09,320 --> 03:05:10,480
a fucking...

6791
03:05:10,480 --> 03:05:12,480
A long toilet roll...

6792
03:05:12,480 --> 03:05:13,400
Thing.

6793
03:05:13,740 --> 03:05:14,380
You know, tube.

6794
03:05:15,960 --> 03:05:17,020
Is it passable?

6795
03:05:19,300 --> 03:05:20,280
Is it passable?

6796
03:05:20,280 --> 03:05:28,240
Yeah.

6797
03:05:28,960 --> 03:05:29,400
Okay.

6798
03:05:29,580 --> 03:05:30,580
Only the...

6799
03:05:30,580 --> 03:05:31,950
I mean, it's probably only the

6800
03:05:31,950 --> 03:05:33,080
hardcore that are left at the

6801
03:05:33,080 --> 03:05:34,000
end of this...

6802
03:05:34,000 --> 03:05:35,160
Or for this stream anyway.

6803
03:05:35,300 --> 03:05:36,900
So it's...

6804
03:05:36,900 --> 03:05:37,880
You know what you're getting

6805
03:05:37,880 --> 03:05:38,160
here.

6806
03:05:38,240 --> 03:05:39,400
We know what we're here for.

6807
03:05:39,520 --> 03:05:41,120
And we can look past that.

6808
03:05:41,880 --> 03:05:43,300
We can power through that.

6809
03:05:43,800 --> 03:05:44,240
...research.

6810
03:05:44,580 --> 03:05:45,710
I was up on the site, and I

6811
03:05:45,710 --> 03:05:46,660
looked at it.

6812
03:05:46,720 --> 03:05:47,600
It's very interesting.

6813
03:05:47,860 --> 03:05:49,040
It's very hilarious.

6814
03:05:49,460 --> 03:05:50,840
It seems to me like there's a

6815
03:05:50,840 --> 03:05:52,860
lot of real science going on...

6816
03:05:52,860 --> 03:05:54,480
Mixed with some real comedy,

6817
03:05:54,480 --> 03:05:55,320
real humor.

6818
03:05:55,440 --> 03:05:56,620
What's the site all about?

6819
03:05:57,640 --> 03:05:59,220
The site mixes real science and

6820
03:05:59,220 --> 03:06:00,440
real humor.

6821
03:06:02,200 --> 03:06:02,440
About 30% of the things we

6822
03:06:02,440 --> 03:06:04,760
publish are actual honest-to-God

6823
03:06:04,760 --> 03:06:06,780
happenings and research.

6824
03:06:06,940 --> 03:06:07,810
So things that people are

6825
03:06:07,810 --> 03:06:08,940
really doing experiments,

6826
03:06:08,940 --> 03:06:09,840
breaking it down.

6827
03:06:09,860 --> 03:06:10,380
Hot air.

6828
03:06:10,400 --> 03:06:11,620
We don't know which 30%.

6829
03:06:11,620 --> 03:06:13,480
And it blends together.

6830
03:06:13,720 --> 03:06:13,880
Totally.

6831
03:06:14,180 --> 03:06:15,460
So what are some of the bizarre

6832
03:06:15,460 --> 03:06:16,940
kind of experiments that you

6833
03:06:16,940 --> 03:06:18,060
can find on there?

6834
03:06:18,640 --> 03:06:20,280
Some of our most interesting

6835
03:06:20,280 --> 03:06:22,070
experiments are in a site, in a

6836
03:06:22,070 --> 03:06:23,740
group called Shareware.

6837
03:06:24,200 --> 03:06:25,220
Which is things that have been

6838
03:06:25,220 --> 03:06:26,500
sent in by our readers.

6839
03:06:26,500 --> 03:06:28,500
Oh, so people can submit...

6840
03:06:28,500 --> 03:06:29,590
You don't have to be a

6841
03:06:29,590 --> 03:06:31,330
scientist to put information up

6842
03:06:31,330 --> 03:06:31,840
here.

6843
03:06:31,880 --> 03:06:32,610
If you have a good idea and a

6844
03:06:32,610 --> 03:06:33,470
good piece of research and an

6845
03:06:33,470 --> 03:06:34,280
interesting...

6846
03:06:34,280 --> 03:06:36,110
Launching stuff with liquid

6847
03:06:36,110 --> 03:06:38,100
nitrogen, dry ice bombs, and

6848
03:06:38,100 --> 03:06:40,240
surgical tubing slingshots.

6849
03:06:40,240 --> 03:06:43,520
The spam cam.

6850
03:06:43,620 --> 03:06:44,830
We can see what he's already

6851
03:06:44,830 --> 03:06:45,580
clicked on.

6852
03:06:45,640 --> 03:06:47,100
They've clicked on the spam cam.

6853
03:06:48,100 --> 03:06:49,100
Which may be unavailable.

6854
03:06:49,100 --> 03:06:50,420
And then the Darwin Awards.

6855
03:06:51,100 --> 03:06:51,440
On the site.

6856
03:06:51,900 --> 03:06:53,300
Thank you very much, Kayleigh,

6857
03:06:53,300 --> 03:06:54,560
for the tip there and there.

6858
03:06:54,680 --> 03:06:56,080
Just as I say thank you for the

6859
03:06:56,080 --> 03:06:57,160
tip to Kayleigh.

6860
03:06:57,280 --> 03:06:59,360
The spam cam page is there.

6861
03:06:59,760 --> 03:07:00,910
And it looks like there's some

6862
03:07:00,910 --> 03:07:02,160
egg pudding and beans or

6863
03:07:02,160 --> 03:07:03,820
something on a plate there.

6864
03:07:04,400 --> 03:07:04,920
I don't know.

6865
03:07:05,720 --> 03:07:06,740
Unless it's different types of

6866
03:07:06,740 --> 03:07:07,220
spam.

6867
03:07:07,500 --> 03:07:08,560
Personal favorite is something

6868
03:07:08,560 --> 03:07:09,560
called the spam cam.

6869
03:07:09,940 --> 03:07:10,620
Spam cam?

6870
03:07:10,760 --> 03:07:10,980
Yeah.

6871
03:07:11,040 --> 03:07:11,980
Kind of like David Letterman

6872
03:07:11,980 --> 03:07:12,800
has the monkey cam.

6873
03:07:13,860 --> 03:07:14,500
Sort of.

6874
03:07:14,500 --> 03:07:15,780
What does the spam cam do?

6875
03:07:16,260 --> 03:07:17,590
The spam cam is showing a

6876
03:07:17,590 --> 03:07:19,960
progressive deterioration of

6877
03:07:19,960 --> 03:07:21,780
various food items.

6878
03:07:21,960 --> 03:07:23,410
Including cans of spam but also

6879
03:07:23,410 --> 03:07:24,930
for Thanksgiving turkey and

6880
03:07:24,930 --> 03:07:26,040
cranberry sauce.

6881
03:07:26,560 --> 03:07:27,520
Weird internet.

6882
03:07:28,080 --> 03:07:28,950
It's a fancy way of saying that

6883
03:07:28,950 --> 03:07:30,160
things are rotting and you're

6884
03:07:30,160 --> 03:07:31,300
watching it happen.

6885
03:07:31,300 --> 03:07:31,740
Really rotting.

6886
03:07:32,000 --> 03:07:32,360
Really rotting.

6887
03:07:32,360 --> 03:07:33,160
In real time.

6888
03:07:33,300 --> 03:07:33,420
Yeah.

6889
03:07:33,720 --> 03:07:34,820
Now I was up on the site and I

6890
03:07:34,820 --> 03:07:36,320
saw some other really crazy

6891
03:07:36,320 --> 03:07:37,000
things.

6892
03:07:37,100 --> 03:07:39,870
I saw a research experiment on

6893
03:07:39,870 --> 03:07:42,860
the effects of photos of bearded

6894
03:07:42,860 --> 03:07:44,260
men on cats.

6895
03:07:44,840 --> 03:07:45,820
What's that all about?

6896
03:07:45,860 --> 03:07:46,840
The bearded men experiment.

6897
03:07:47,000 --> 03:07:47,180
Yes.

6898
03:07:47,620 --> 03:07:49,690
Well, somebody did a research

6899
03:07:49,690 --> 03:07:51,680
piece on how cats react to

6900
03:07:51,680 --> 03:07:52,980
bearded men.

6901
03:07:53,340 --> 03:07:54,800
Now did they really show photos

6902
03:07:54,800 --> 03:07:56,320
of bearded men to cats?

6903
03:07:56,340 --> 03:07:57,930
We have a 30% chance that it'll

6904
03:07:57,930 --> 03:07:58,940
actually happen.

6905
03:07:59,040 --> 03:07:59,500
We don't know.

6906
03:07:59,760 --> 03:08:00,900
Stu in background.

6907
03:08:01,060 --> 03:08:01,780
Thank you very much.

6908
03:08:01,900 --> 03:08:03,530
Of the first shot of this

6909
03:08:03,530 --> 03:08:05,060
interview eating some food.

6910
03:08:06,640 --> 03:08:08,180
4.14 we're at.

6911
03:08:08,780 --> 03:08:09,840
Remember the time.

6912
03:08:11,940 --> 03:08:12,820
Thank you.

6913
03:08:17,720 --> 03:08:21,280
How did you notice that?

6914
03:08:22,460 --> 03:08:24,200
Thank you very much for the tip

6915
03:08:24,200 --> 03:08:26,000
there, Stu After Dark.

6916
03:08:29,460 --> 03:08:31,400
He's got a fork.

6917
03:08:32,040 --> 03:08:33,120
He's got a fork.

6918
03:08:36,180 --> 03:08:38,950
So Amy, you are a researcher at

6919
03:08:38,950 --> 03:08:41,940
Stanford University, and you

6920
03:08:41,940 --> 03:08:44,920
are also the webmaster for the

6921
03:08:44,920 --> 03:08:46,940
Annals of Improbable Research.

6922
03:08:47,260 --> 03:08:48,410
I was up on the site, and I

6923
03:08:48,410 --> 03:08:49,820
looked at it. It's very

6924
03:08:49,820 --> 03:08:51,080
interesting. It's very

6925
03:08:51,080 --> 03:08:51,780
hilarious.

6926
03:08:52,520 --> 03:08:53,380
It seems to me like there's a

6927
03:08:53,380 --> 03:08:55,120
lot of real science going on,

6928
03:08:55,120 --> 03:08:57,140
basically with some real comedy,

6929
03:08:57,140 --> 03:08:58,020
real humor.

6930
03:08:58,020 --> 03:08:59,360
What's the site all about?

6931
03:09:00,220 --> 03:09:01,940
The site mixes real science and

6932
03:09:01,940 --> 03:09:03,160
real humor.

6933
03:09:03,160 --> 03:09:06,530
It's very interesting. It's of

6934
03:09:06,530 --> 03:09:10,560
improbable. It's very hilarious.

6935
03:09:11,360 --> 03:09:13,510
The cats that were exposed to

6936
03:09:13,510 --> 03:09:16,840
the Robert Bork photos actually

6937
03:09:16,840 --> 03:09:19,140
became paralyzed.

6938
03:09:20,620 --> 03:09:21,570
Again, we would have to trust

6939
03:09:21,570 --> 03:09:23,180
their findings.

6940
03:09:23,560 --> 03:09:24,680
One thing I noticed on the site

6941
03:09:24,680 --> 03:09:25,940
is it does seem like you do

6942
03:09:25,940 --> 03:09:27,500
have this comedy, and you have

6943
03:09:27,500 --> 03:09:28,680
real experiments.

6944
03:09:28,680 --> 03:09:30,030
You have real scientists who

6945
03:09:30,030 --> 03:09:31,240
are involved in this.

6946
03:09:31,320 --> 03:09:32,500
Who are some of the people that

6947
03:09:32,500 --> 03:09:33,880
are actually involved in this?

6948
03:09:34,520 --> 03:09:35,540
With Air the Journal, as

6949
03:09:35,540 --> 03:09:37,440
opposed to Air the Website,

6950
03:09:37,440 --> 03:09:39,480
there are four real Nobel, not

6951
03:09:39,480 --> 03:09:41,130
Ig Nobel, but real Nobel

6952
03:09:41,130 --> 03:09:42,710
variants on the board of

6953
03:09:42,710 --> 03:09:43,800
directors.

6954
03:09:44,180 --> 03:09:45,150
Excellent. So those are folks

6955
03:09:45,150 --> 03:09:46,400
who are providing some kind of

6956
03:09:46,400 --> 03:09:47,040
direction.

6957
03:09:47,280 --> 03:09:48,660
Some kind of direction, yes.

6958
03:09:49,520 --> 03:09:50,820
We do something called the Ig

6959
03:09:50,820 --> 03:09:52,940
Nobel Prizes every year.

6960
03:09:53,140 --> 03:09:54,220
What does Ig stand for?

6961
03:09:55,520 --> 03:09:57,280
I think not, in this case.

6962
03:09:57,280 --> 03:09:58,400
Not, like Ig Nobel.

6963
03:09:58,400 --> 03:10:00,020
Ig Nobel Prizes honor people

6964
03:10:00,020 --> 03:10:01,660
whose experiments cannot or

6965
03:10:01,660 --> 03:10:03,400
should not be reproduced.

6966
03:10:03,400 --> 03:10:04,630
And what are some of those? I

6967
03:10:04,630 --> 03:10:05,860
think I've seen some of them,

6968
03:10:05,860 --> 03:10:06,790
but what are some of the

6969
03:10:06,790 --> 03:10:08,090
winners from last year that you

6970
03:10:08,090 --> 03:10:09,400
thought were interesting?

6971
03:10:09,400 --> 03:10:11,520
This past year, the prize for

6972
03:10:11,520 --> 03:10:13,640
public health went to a pair of

6973
03:10:13,640 --> 03:10:15,770
researchers that tracked the

6974
03:10:15,770 --> 03:10:17,760
transmission of gonorrhea

6975
03:10:17,760 --> 03:10:20,100
through an inflatable doll, and

6976
03:10:20,100 --> 03:10:22,310
that was published in a medical

6977
03:10:22,310 --> 03:10:23,400
journal.

6978
03:10:23,400 --> 03:10:25,150
In a medical journal. So that

6979
03:10:25,150 --> 03:10:27,200
was a real study.

6980
03:10:27,440 --> 03:10:28,060
That was a real study, yeah.

6981
03:10:28,060 --> 03:10:29,240
That's amazing. I won't even go

6982
03:10:29,240 --> 03:10:30,340
into the details, so it sounds

6983
03:10:30,340 --> 03:10:31,060
kind of scary.

6984
03:10:31,740 --> 03:10:33,140
One of the other winners, which

6985
03:10:33,140 --> 03:10:35,150
can be found under shareware on

6986
03:10:35,150 --> 03:10:36,910
our site, on the website,

6987
03:10:36,910 --> 03:10:38,940
tracked or looked at the effect

6988
03:10:38,940 --> 03:10:41,050
of kale, garlic, and sour cream

6989
03:10:41,050 --> 03:10:43,200
on the appetite of leeches.

6990
03:10:43,980 --> 03:10:44,260
Leeches?

6991
03:10:44,500 --> 03:10:45,550
Leeches. And that got the prize

6992
03:10:45,550 --> 03:10:46,160
for biology.

6993
03:10:46,160 --> 03:10:47,610
Wow, these are really appetizing

6994
03:10:47,610 --> 03:10:48,920
subjects all the way around.

6995
03:10:48,920 --> 03:10:50,920
It gets better though.

6996
03:10:50,920 --> 03:10:53,660
Fucking George Goble, man.

6997
03:10:53,660 --> 03:11:18,540
Indiana Unix and the Last Crusade.

6998
03:11:18,540 --> 03:11:24,550
And the Nobel Prize for

6999
03:11:24,550 --> 03:11:28,760
Chemistry was one by a guy

7000
03:11:28,760 --> 03:11:32,340
named George Goebel for an incendiary

7001
03:11:32,340 --> 03:11:33,960
treatise on the lighting of...

7002
03:11:33,960 --> 03:11:35,890
Some crazy stuff. George Goebel

7003
03:11:35,890 --> 03:11:38,520
out in the garden with incendiary

7004
03:11:38,520 --> 03:11:39,990
balloons and bombs, hobbies and

7005
03:11:39,990 --> 03:11:42,410
other interests, cooking hamburgers

7006
03:11:42,410 --> 03:11:44,180
and lighting the grill.

7007
03:11:44,780 --> 03:11:45,760
Look at what he's doing.

7008
03:11:45,760 --> 03:11:49,000
He's got a fucking large gas

7009
03:11:49,000 --> 03:11:50,760
tank there.

7010
03:11:50,760 --> 03:11:54,020
Or liquid oxygen.

7011
03:11:54,020 --> 03:11:55,900
To light it. That's a good way

7012
03:11:55,900 --> 03:11:57,630
to sort of cook your family at

7013
03:11:57,630 --> 03:11:58,760
the same time.

7014
03:11:59,760 --> 03:12:02,900
Goebel's gone fucking lula.

7015
03:12:03,400 --> 03:12:04,650
One liquid oxygen soaked

7016
03:12:04,650 --> 03:12:06,320
charcoal briquette.

7017
03:12:06,320 --> 03:12:08,270
I hope he lived. I hope he was

7018
03:12:08,270 --> 03:12:10,140
okay after all this, whatever

7019
03:12:10,140 --> 03:12:11,220
he was doing.

7020
03:12:12,040 --> 03:12:13,580
The Goebel.

7021
03:12:13,580 --> 03:12:14,800
One stick of dynamite.

7022
03:12:15,040 --> 03:12:16,160
Oh, so this is not something

7023
03:12:16,160 --> 03:12:17,440
you should try at home.

7024
03:12:17,520 --> 03:12:18,460
Not something you should try at

7025
03:12:18,460 --> 03:12:18,760
home.

7026
03:12:18,900 --> 03:12:20,590
But you can download the MPEG

7027
03:12:20,590 --> 03:12:22,160
through our website.

7028
03:12:22,260 --> 03:12:23,170
And see it. Well, that's

7029
03:12:23,170 --> 03:12:24,250
excellent. Great. We'll have

7030
03:12:24,250 --> 03:12:25,500
folks go there. Thank you.

7031
03:12:26,580 --> 03:12:28,240
Fucking, that was a bad one,

7032
03:12:28,240 --> 03:12:28,960
you know.

7033
03:12:31,480 --> 03:12:31,820
Hoping for some gold, you know,

7034
03:12:31,820 --> 03:12:34,410
along the lines of the lads who

7035
03:12:34,410 --> 03:12:36,470
made a video game about a

7036
03:12:36,470 --> 03:12:37,820
cockroach.

7037
03:12:38,380 --> 03:12:39,450
And then finding out about a

7038
03:12:39,450 --> 03:12:41,390
brand new game like that that's

7039
03:12:41,390 --> 03:12:43,930
about 30 or 40 years, 30 years

7040
03:12:43,930 --> 03:12:44,840
old maybe.

7041
03:12:46,220 --> 03:12:47,440
And playing it.

7042
03:12:47,960 --> 03:12:49,130
Well, that's what you want, you

7043
03:12:49,130 --> 03:12:49,520
know.

7044
03:12:50,060 --> 03:12:51,300
And Stu to be interviewing the

7045
03:12:51,300 --> 03:12:52,520
cockroach guys.

7046
03:12:53,340 --> 03:12:54,460
You want that level.

7047
03:12:54,460 --> 03:12:56,420
Thank you.

7048
03:13:01,420 --> 03:13:17,020
So Ken, tell me about the TeleGarden.

7049
03:13:17,480 --> 03:13:19,440
Okay. The TeleGarden is a

7050
03:13:19,440 --> 03:13:22,280
website that allows anyone from

7051
03:13:22,280 --> 03:13:24,820
around the world to log in and

7052
03:13:24,820 --> 03:13:27,680
tend to a real living garden.

7053
03:13:28,260 --> 03:13:29,800
It's set up in, currently it's

7054
03:13:29,800 --> 03:13:30,660
in Austria.

7055
03:13:31,540 --> 03:13:32,410
And the garden consists of a

7056
03:13:32,410 --> 03:13:34,380
six foot diameter planter with

7057
03:13:34,380 --> 03:13:36,080
18 inches of soil.

7058
03:13:36,820 --> 03:13:38,020
And in the center of that is an

7059
03:13:38,020 --> 03:13:39,100
industrial robot arm.

7060
03:13:39,800 --> 03:13:41,120
The arm has a camera.

7061
03:13:41,140 --> 03:13:41,900
Robot arm.

7062
03:13:42,000 --> 03:13:42,400
At the end.

7063
03:13:42,940 --> 03:13:44,140
They can move around and look,

7064
03:13:44,140 --> 03:13:45,770
take snapshots of the garden

7065
03:13:45,770 --> 03:13:47,120
under web control.

7066
03:13:47,700 --> 03:13:49,130
And also it allows people on

7067
03:13:49,130 --> 03:13:51,220
the garden to pick a point and

7068
03:13:51,220 --> 03:13:53,600
water plants that are there.

7069
03:13:53,680 --> 03:13:55,180
And also to plant a seed.

7070
03:13:55,980 --> 03:13:57,060
And planting a seed involves,

7071
03:13:57,060 --> 03:13:58,910
the robot actually has a little

7072
03:13:58,910 --> 03:13:59,920
suction cup.

7073
03:14:00,560 --> 03:14:01,630
It picks up one seed, moves

7074
03:14:01,630 --> 03:14:03,630
over and then it digs down, digs

7075
03:14:03,630 --> 03:14:05,660
a small hole, drops the seed,

7076
03:14:05,820 --> 03:14:06,980
covers up the hole with dirt

7077
03:14:06,980 --> 03:14:07,940
and then waters it.

7078
03:14:08,300 --> 03:14:08,660
Automatically.

7079
03:14:09,400 --> 03:14:09,800
Automatically.

7080
03:14:09,800 --> 03:14:10,800
You know what the fuck they're

7081
03:14:10,800 --> 03:14:11,240
on about.

7082
03:14:12,040 --> 03:14:12,360
Automatically.

7083
03:14:12,940 --> 03:14:13,950
So then you have to come back

7084
03:14:13,950 --> 03:14:15,450
though the next day and water

7085
03:14:15,450 --> 03:14:16,540
the seed again.

7086
03:14:16,700 --> 03:14:18,120
Keep watering it over a period

7087
03:14:18,120 --> 03:14:19,320
of a week or two until it

7088
03:14:19,320 --> 03:14:20,900
sprouts and then you have your

7089
03:14:20,900 --> 03:14:21,540
plant.

7090
03:14:21,960 --> 03:14:22,770
So let me just qualify this

7091
03:14:22,770 --> 03:14:23,810
again because I think some

7092
03:14:23,810 --> 03:14:25,180
people might get confused.

7093
03:14:25,280 --> 03:14:26,560
This is a real live garden and

7094
03:14:26,560 --> 03:14:28,220
the garden exists in Austria.

7095
03:14:28,460 --> 03:14:28,680
Right.

7096
03:14:29,060 --> 03:14:29,900
And basically through the

7097
03:14:29,900 --> 03:14:31,080
internet I can actually get

7098
03:14:31,080 --> 03:14:32,240
through the world wide web

7099
03:14:32,240 --> 03:14:33,720
access and become a member of

7100
03:14:33,720 --> 03:14:35,270
the garden or the co-operative

7101
03:14:35,270 --> 03:14:35,800
in this case.

7102
03:14:35,800 --> 03:14:37,090
And actually become a

7103
03:14:37,090 --> 03:14:38,780
contributing gardener.

7104
03:14:39,020 --> 03:14:39,280
Right.

7105
03:14:39,420 --> 03:14:40,060
To the garden.

7106
03:14:40,180 --> 03:14:40,380
Right.

7107
03:14:40,800 --> 03:14:42,060
So I'm really watering a plant

7108
03:14:42,060 --> 03:14:43,670
and I'm really planting that

7109
03:14:43,670 --> 03:14:44,260
seed.

7110
03:14:44,440 --> 03:14:45,340
That's pretty exciting.

7111
03:14:45,480 --> 03:14:46,820
Now why did you do this?

7112
03:14:47,200 --> 03:14:49,420
Well, my research area is in

7113
03:14:49,420 --> 03:14:50,660
robotics.

7114
03:14:51,120 --> 03:14:52,230
Particular manufacturing type

7115
03:14:52,230 --> 03:14:53,240
of applications.

7116
03:14:53,240 --> 03:14:54,740
And when the web came along we

7117
03:14:54,740 --> 03:14:56,420
realized that we could take the

7118
03:14:56,420 --> 03:14:57,560
web a step further.

7119
03:14:57,700 --> 03:14:59,250
In other words, beyond being

7120
03:14:59,250 --> 03:15:00,930
able to pick up images and even

7121
03:15:00,930 --> 03:15:01,480
live.

7122
03:15:01,820 --> 03:15:03,120
Thanks Jackie for the tip.

7123
03:15:03,460 --> 03:15:04,870
And Schultz, thank you very

7124
03:15:04,870 --> 03:15:05,440
much.

7125
03:15:06,640 --> 03:15:07,040
Okay.

7126
03:15:07,240 --> 03:15:10,160
So now what's the experience?

7127
03:15:10,320 --> 03:15:11,270
I mean what kind of people

7128
03:15:11,270 --> 03:15:12,740
would become the gardeners?

7129
03:15:12,780 --> 03:15:14,060
Now I know that you do have

7130
03:15:14,060 --> 03:15:15,650
some rules in terms of how many

7131
03:15:15,650 --> 03:15:17,100
hits you need to make to that

7132
03:15:17,100 --> 03:15:18,760
website before you're allowed

7133
03:15:18,760 --> 03:15:20,160
to have the right to plant a

7134
03:15:20,160 --> 03:15:20,800
seed.

7135
03:15:21,300 --> 03:15:21,970
Now what kind of people are

7136
03:15:21,970 --> 03:15:23,210
participating and how many

7137
03:15:23,210 --> 03:15:24,260
people do you have?

7138
03:15:24,780 --> 03:15:26,240
Well, the site has been up

7139
03:15:26,240 --> 03:15:27,980
about a year and a half now.

7140
03:15:28,580 --> 03:15:30,710
And we've had 12,000 people

7141
03:15:30,710 --> 03:15:32,680
register to become members.

7142
03:15:33,360 --> 03:15:34,280
We estimate probably about 10

7143
03:15:34,280 --> 03:15:35,490
times that have come in and

7144
03:15:35,490 --> 03:15:37,000
looked around in the garden.

7145
03:15:37,700 --> 03:15:38,290
To become a member takes a

7146
03:15:38,290 --> 03:15:39,810
couple of steps and you have to

7147
03:15:39,810 --> 03:15:41,060
give your password.

7148
03:15:41,300 --> 03:15:42,530
You have to get a password and

7149
03:15:42,530 --> 03:15:43,840
share your email address.

7150
03:15:44,780 --> 03:15:46,480
But we see it as both a science

7151
03:15:46,480 --> 03:15:49,280
project and an art project.

7152
03:15:49,420 --> 03:15:50,400
Because we're interested in

7153
03:15:50,400 --> 03:15:51,450
what kind of, raising some

7154
03:15:51,450 --> 03:15:52,550
questions about what kind of

7155
03:15:52,550 --> 03:15:53,710
communities are going to form

7156
03:15:53,710 --> 03:15:54,580
on the internet.

7157
03:15:55,120 --> 03:15:55,480
Okay.

7158
03:15:55,960 --> 03:15:57,330
And so in particular, what kind

7159
03:15:57,330 --> 03:15:58,870
of community forms around a

7160
03:15:58,870 --> 03:16:00,720
shared physical resource like a

7161
03:16:00,720 --> 03:16:01,460
garden?

7162
03:16:02,280 --> 03:16:03,270
I mean if you go back 8,000

7163
03:16:03,270 --> 03:16:04,720
years when the first gardens

7164
03:16:04,720 --> 03:16:05,420
came out.

7165
03:16:05,780 --> 03:16:07,360
When people first started

7166
03:16:07,360 --> 03:16:09,570
agriculture from hunting and

7167
03:16:09,570 --> 03:16:10,700
gathering.

7168
03:16:10,700 --> 03:16:11,580
What the fuck is he on about?

7169
03:16:11,580 --> 03:16:13,150
I mean I know he's on about

7170
03:16:13,150 --> 03:16:14,560
gardens and stuff.

7171
03:16:14,560 --> 03:16:15,520
But Christ.

7172
03:16:16,280 --> 03:16:17,470
And then it's just nice to see

7173
03:16:17,470 --> 03:16:19,760
like mooching around as well.

7174
03:16:19,860 --> 03:16:20,840
Customers mooching.

7175
03:16:20,960 --> 03:16:22,370
But also maybe even, we won't

7176
03:16:22,370 --> 03:16:23,900
know because the resolution is

7177
03:16:23,900 --> 03:16:24,460
so poor.

7178
03:16:24,560 --> 03:16:26,280
But maybe even looking into the

7179
03:16:26,280 --> 03:16:28,100
camera as these interviews are

7180
03:16:28,100 --> 03:16:28,860
going on.

7181
03:16:29,660 --> 03:16:31,090
When people first started

7182
03:16:31,090 --> 03:16:33,600
agriculture from hunting and

7183
03:16:33,600 --> 03:16:34,860
gathering.

7184
03:16:35,600 --> 03:16:36,600
There was a change in the way

7185
03:16:36,600 --> 03:16:38,080
people interacted.

7186
03:16:38,420 --> 03:16:39,440
They had to form groups.

7187
03:16:39,560 --> 03:16:40,820
They had to defend some small

7188
03:16:40,820 --> 03:16:41,500
territory.

7189
03:16:42,140 --> 03:16:42,760
And then there was the idea of

7190
03:16:42,760 --> 03:16:43,760
division of labor.

7191
03:16:44,280 --> 03:16:46,130
That one person could plant and

7192
03:16:46,130 --> 03:16:48,740
create enough food for 10.

7193
03:16:49,400 --> 03:16:50,260
So there's the economies of

7194
03:16:50,260 --> 03:16:51,240
scale I guess.

7195
03:16:51,240 --> 03:16:51,940
The economies of scale.

7196
03:16:52,040 --> 03:16:53,740
So people could start to diversify

7197
03:16:53,740 --> 03:16:54,990
and do other things like

7198
03:16:54,990 --> 03:16:56,060
science and art.

7199
03:16:56,480 --> 03:16:57,860
So now what's your experience?

7200
03:16:57,920 --> 03:16:59,080
You told me a story earlier on

7201
03:16:59,080 --> 03:17:00,190
about the fact that you did

7202
03:17:00,190 --> 03:17:01,510
have an aphid infestation in

7203
03:17:01,510 --> 03:17:02,140
the garden.

7204
03:17:02,300 --> 03:17:02,520
Right.

7205
03:17:02,800 --> 03:17:03,850
And you had to completely clear

7206
03:17:03,850 --> 03:17:05,260
out the garden because of it.

7207
03:17:05,320 --> 03:17:06,320
There's not much you could do.

7208
03:17:06,500 --> 03:17:07,620
So what was the impact to the

7209
03:17:07,620 --> 03:17:08,820
gardeners who created that

7210
03:17:08,820 --> 03:17:09,380
garden?

7211
03:17:09,420 --> 03:17:10,580
Well people were upset.

7212
03:17:10,900 --> 03:17:11,140
I mean.

7213
03:17:11,300 --> 03:17:11,900
I can imagine.

7214
03:17:12,100 --> 03:17:12,260
Yeah.

7215
03:17:12,260 --> 03:17:12,280
Yeah.

7216
03:17:12,340 --> 03:17:13,840
We get a lot of complaints that

7217
03:17:13,840 --> 03:17:14,900
the watering is.

7218
03:17:16,100 --> 03:17:17,790
I'm also uncertain about how

7219
03:17:17,790 --> 03:17:19,540
the colony idea would fly.

7220
03:17:19,540 --> 03:17:21,890
Perhaps the whole group could

7221
03:17:21,890 --> 03:17:23,760
organize itself by some

7222
03:17:23,760 --> 03:17:26,360
volunteering to be waterers.

7223
03:17:26,840 --> 03:17:27,840
Some planters.

7224
03:17:28,380 --> 03:17:29,520
Some troubleshooters.

7225
03:17:29,640 --> 03:17:30,700
By surveying the garden.

7226
03:17:30,780 --> 03:17:31,800
Thank you very much Black Tom

7227
03:17:31,800 --> 03:17:32,380
for the tip.

7228
03:17:32,600 --> 03:17:33,720
By surveying the garden.

7229
03:17:34,280 --> 03:17:35,940
And identifying trouble spots.

7230
03:17:36,260 --> 03:17:38,340
As far as plant selection goals.

7231
03:17:38,860 --> 03:17:40,310
If over watering is a major

7232
03:17:40,310 --> 03:17:41,120
problem.

7233
03:17:41,760 --> 03:17:43,560
Why don't you consider watercress?

7234
03:17:45,340 --> 03:17:46,740
It's a non-invasive.

7235
03:17:47,200 --> 03:17:48,180
Small-leaved.

7236
03:17:49,440 --> 03:17:50,980
And likes wet feet.

7237
03:17:51,820 --> 03:17:53,300
A bonus would be that you.

7238
03:17:53,820 --> 03:17:54,920
People locally.

7239
03:17:55,260 --> 03:17:56,320
This is terrible.

7240
03:17:56,460 --> 03:17:58,240
Grammatically it makes no sense.

7241
03:17:58,820 --> 03:18:00,500
A bonus would be.

7242
03:18:01,080 --> 03:18:01,600
That you.

7243
03:18:01,900 --> 03:18:02,960
People locally.

7244
03:18:03,260 --> 03:18:04,750
Would have all the watercress

7245
03:18:04,750 --> 03:18:05,440
salads.

7246
03:18:06,340 --> 03:18:08,500
The salads are ready to go.

7247
03:18:10,940 --> 03:18:12,190
Somebody's been over watering

7248
03:18:12,190 --> 03:18:12,800
the garden.

7249
03:18:13,160 --> 03:18:14,980
Or that their seed didn't come

7250
03:18:14,980 --> 03:18:15,480
up.

7251
03:18:16,020 --> 03:18:17,380
We also get things like.

7252
03:18:17,520 --> 03:18:18,000
People say.

7253
03:18:18,100 --> 03:18:18,900
I'm going on vacation.

7254
03:18:19,160 --> 03:18:20,110
Can someone water my plant

7255
03:18:20,110 --> 03:18:20,960
while I'm gone?

7256
03:18:22,040 --> 03:18:22,560
That's great.

7257
03:18:22,560 --> 03:18:23,120
You really get neighborly kind

7258
03:18:23,120 --> 03:18:23,580
of things like that.

7259
03:18:23,580 --> 03:18:24,320
So there's definitely a

7260
03:18:24,320 --> 03:18:25,480
community that's been growing.

7261
03:18:25,620 --> 03:18:26,520
Literally growing up in this

7262
03:18:26,520 --> 03:18:27,400
whole environment.

7263
03:18:27,480 --> 03:18:27,660
Right.

7264
03:18:27,840 --> 03:18:29,410
And there are very suburban

7265
03:18:29,410 --> 03:18:31,060
kind of interactions.

7266
03:18:31,220 --> 03:18:32,300
There's a chat line built in.

7267
03:18:33,040 --> 03:18:34,200
We call it the village square.

7268
03:18:34,340 --> 03:18:35,580
And people can come there and

7269
03:18:35,580 --> 03:18:36,360
talk about.

7270
03:18:36,900 --> 03:18:37,880
Well we just leave it open.

7271
03:18:38,220 --> 03:18:39,230
And they talk a lot about

7272
03:18:39,230 --> 03:18:40,680
policies in the garden.

7273
03:18:40,680 --> 03:18:41,740
And it's sort of self-governing.

7274
03:18:41,840 --> 03:18:42,480
Self-governing.

7275
03:18:42,600 --> 03:18:43,550
But they also talk about their

7276
03:18:43,550 --> 03:18:43,980
weather.

7277
03:18:44,220 --> 03:18:44,740
Their kids.

7278
03:18:44,960 --> 03:18:46,240
Their own plants back at their

7279
03:18:46,240 --> 03:18:47,040
own gardens.

7280
03:18:47,360 --> 03:18:47,880
That's great.

7281
03:18:47,980 --> 03:18:48,750
Well thanks very much for your

7282
03:18:48,750 --> 03:18:49,020
time.

7283
03:18:49,580 --> 03:18:49,940
You're welcome.

7284
03:18:49,940 --> 03:19:19,920
We'll be right back.

7285
03:19:19,920 --> 03:19:24,920
Kurt Cobain.

7286
03:19:29,920 --> 03:19:31,120
From Nirvana.

7287
03:19:31,120 --> 03:19:35,120
Well, this is rocket science.

7288
03:19:35,120 --> 03:19:36,120
You are a rocket scientist.

7289
03:19:36,120 --> 03:19:37,660
I mean, you're working on

7290
03:19:37,660 --> 03:19:39,470
building a rocket, or I guess a

7291
03:19:39,470 --> 03:19:41,120
jet really, to go as fast as

7292
03:19:41,120 --> 03:19:42,120
possible on the ground.

7293
03:19:42,120 --> 03:19:43,790
You're trying to set the world

7294
03:19:43,790 --> 03:19:45,120
land speed record. What's that

7295
03:19:45,120 --> 03:19:45,120
involved?

7296
03:19:45,120 --> 03:19:47,370
That's right. It's Craig Breedlove's

7297
03:19:47,370 --> 03:19:49,350
Spirit of America project. I'm

7298
03:19:49,350 --> 03:19:50,490
his crew chief, and I'm

7299
03:19:50,490 --> 03:19:52,130
assisting him in his endeavors

7300
03:19:52,130 --> 03:19:53,630
to take the land speed record

7301
03:19:53,630 --> 03:19:55,200
back to the United States from

7302
03:19:55,200 --> 03:19:56,120
the British.

7303
03:19:56,120 --> 03:19:58,120
Richard Noble has it right now.

7304
03:19:58,120 --> 03:19:59,480
And ultimately, to push his

7305
03:19:59,480 --> 03:20:01,020
designed rocket jet car through

7306
03:20:01,020 --> 03:20:02,120
the sound barrier.

7307
03:20:02,120 --> 03:20:03,270
And what is the record right

7308
03:20:03,270 --> 03:20:04,120
now? How fast?

7309
03:20:04,120 --> 03:20:06,120
It's around 630 miles an hour.

7310
03:20:06,120 --> 03:20:07,120
630 miles an hour.

7311
03:20:07,120 --> 03:20:08,950
Yeah. What's the science here?

7312
03:20:08,950 --> 03:20:09,780
I mean, what's so hard about

7313
03:20:09,780 --> 03:20:10,120
this?

7314
03:20:10,120 --> 03:20:11,940
I mean, it's easy to go faster.

7315
03:20:11,940 --> 03:20:13,570
I think the problem is staying

7316
03:20:13,570 --> 03:20:15,220
on the ground and steering the

7317
03:20:15,220 --> 03:20:16,120
darn thing.

7318
03:20:16,120 --> 03:20:19,410
and rocket jet car through to

7319
03:20:19,410 --> 03:20:21,030
the sound barrier and what is

7320
03:20:21,030 --> 03:20:21,940
the record right now how fast

7321
03:20:21,940 --> 03:20:22,120
it's

7322
03:20:22,120 --> 03:20:24,220
around 630 miles an hour 630

7323
03:20:24,220 --> 03:20:25,420
miles an hour what's the

7324
03:20:25,420 --> 03:20:27,240
science here i mean what's what's

7325
03:20:27,240 --> 03:20:27,720
so hard

7326
03:20:27,720 --> 03:20:29,170
about this i mean it's easy to

7327
03:20:29,170 --> 03:20:30,730
go faster i think the problem

7328
03:20:30,730 --> 03:20:32,150
is staying on the ground and

7329
03:20:32,150 --> 03:20:32,680
steering

7330
03:20:32,680 --> 03:20:33,880
the darn thing staying on the

7331
03:20:33,880 --> 03:20:35,030
ground steering it and then

7332
03:20:35,030 --> 03:20:36,370
material science involved with

7333
03:20:36,370 --> 03:20:36,920
moving at

7334
03:20:36,920 --> 03:20:38,480
higher speeds the tires are

7335
03:20:38,480 --> 03:20:40,390
problems the uh the aerodynamics

7336
03:20:40,390 --> 03:20:41,960
is our greatest concern one

7337
03:20:41,960 --> 03:20:42,600
where as

7338
03:20:42,600 --> 03:20:44,320
we get closer and closer to

7339
03:20:44,320 --> 03:20:46,090
sound barrier transonic uh

7340
03:20:46,090 --> 03:20:48,190
turbulence and then ultimately

7341
03:20:48,190 --> 03:20:49,240
a shock wave may

7342
03:20:49,240 --> 03:20:51,330
be forming off the bottom of

7343
03:20:51,330 --> 03:20:53,500
the car and causing uh stew is

7344
03:20:53,500 --> 03:20:55,710
hyper engaged thank you very

7345
03:20:55,710 --> 03:20:56,600
much heart

7346
03:20:56,600 --> 03:20:58,110
shaped ultimately shock wave

7347
03:20:58,110 --> 03:20:59,550
may be forming off the bottom

7348
03:20:59,550 --> 03:21:00,930
thanks very much for the tip

7349
03:21:00,930 --> 03:21:01,560
there heart

7350
03:21:01,560 --> 03:21:03,770
shaped umbop and and stew is

7351
03:21:03,770 --> 03:21:06,020
locked in causing uh at this

7352
03:21:06,020 --> 03:21:08,280
point unknown results what

7353
03:21:08,280 --> 03:21:09,480
about the human

7354
03:21:09,480 --> 03:21:11,040
factors i mean what's it like

7355
03:21:11,040 --> 03:21:12,870
to be a human being inside this

7356
03:21:12,870 --> 03:21:14,840
rocket ship that's going at 670

7357
03:21:14,840 --> 03:21:15,080
miles

7358
03:21:15,080 --> 03:21:16,370
an hour well craig's very calm

7359
03:21:16,370 --> 03:21:17,700
at all times he's calm when he's

7360
03:21:17,700 --> 03:21:19,000
standing there he's calm when

7361
03:21:19,000 --> 03:21:19,960
he's driving

7362
03:21:19,960 --> 03:21:21,310
and uh it's something he's done

7363
03:21:21,310 --> 03:21:22,630
all his life but uh certainly a

7364
03:21:22,630 --> 03:21:23,770
lot of stress is on him it's

7365
03:21:23,770 --> 03:21:24,680
extremely a

7366
03:21:24,680 --> 03:21:26,090
a lot of vibrations a lot of

7367
03:21:26,090 --> 03:21:27,550
noise and um ultimately you

7368
03:21:27,550 --> 03:21:28,930
know well the last time you

7369
03:21:28,930 --> 03:21:29,880
tried to set the

7370
03:21:29,880 --> 03:21:31,530
record things went wrong right

7371
03:21:31,530 --> 03:21:33,290
well yeah he did a u-turn at 675

7372
03:21:33,290 --> 03:21:35,000
not intentionally certainly not

7373
03:21:35,000 --> 03:21:36,120
i mean

7374
03:21:36,120 --> 03:21:37,840
things just got out of control

7375
03:21:37,840 --> 03:21:39,280
well as as we go faster we

7376
03:21:39,280 --> 03:21:40,860
start learning more and more

7377
03:21:40,860 --> 03:21:41,240
and what

7378
03:21:41,240 --> 03:21:42,570
happened was we made a very

7379
03:21:42,570 --> 03:21:43,890
rapid jump in speed the the

7380
03:21:43,890 --> 03:21:45,100
highest speed he'd gone

7381
03:21:45,100 --> 03:21:46,360
previously was around

7382
03:21:46,360 --> 03:21:47,910
560 and then we took an

7383
03:21:47,910 --> 03:21:49,920
increase in speed of 100 miles

7384
03:21:49,920 --> 03:21:51,280
an hour and then uh forces

7385
03:21:51,280 --> 03:21:52,520
either within the car

7386
03:21:52,520 --> 03:21:54,550
and external ones that wins and

7387
03:21:54,550 --> 03:21:56,230
slight wins and maybe some

7388
03:21:56,230 --> 03:21:58,230
changes in the uh aerodynamics

7389
03:21:58,230 --> 03:21:59,480
are necessary but

7390
03:21:59,480 --> 03:22:01,130
uh yeah he did a u-turn and uh

7391
03:22:01,130 --> 03:22:03,110
we're making modifications and

7392
03:22:03,110 --> 03:22:04,840
but it's it's basically a new

7393
03:22:04,840 --> 03:22:05,860
but he was all right i mean he

7394
03:22:05,860 --> 03:22:07,080
walked away from this certainly

7395
03:22:07,080 --> 03:22:08,350
he's gonna get back this guy's

7396
03:22:08,350 --> 03:22:09,240
59 years old right

7397
03:22:09,240 --> 03:22:10,630
yeah and he's doing this stuff

7398
03:22:10,630 --> 03:22:11,930
now you've got a website the

7399
03:22:11,930 --> 03:22:13,440
spirit of america that explains

7400
03:22:13,440 --> 03:22:14,120
all this stuff

7401
03:22:14,120 --> 03:22:15,840
uh tell us what's on the site

7402
03:22:15,840 --> 03:22:17,550
uh what we have is information

7403
03:22:17,550 --> 03:22:19,560
about the the biography of craig

7404
03:22:19,560 --> 03:22:19,720
his

7405
03:22:19,720 --> 03:22:21,080
his background with his other

7406
03:22:21,080 --> 03:22:22,480
cars a lot of information about

7407
03:22:22,480 --> 03:22:24,300
the his past got pictures did

7408
03:22:24,300 --> 03:22:26,810
this lad survive this uh craig

7409
03:22:26,810 --> 03:22:28,600
breed is it breed love

7410
03:22:28,600 --> 03:22:46,990
he walked away from the 600

7411
03:22:46,990 --> 03:22:57,560
mile an hour u-turn

7412
03:22:57,560 --> 03:22:59,920
not intentionally it wasn't an

7413
03:22:59,920 --> 03:23:02,330
intentional u-turn but that's

7414
03:23:02,330 --> 03:23:05,080
what ended that's what transpired

7415
03:23:05,640 --> 03:23:06,450
and he walked away from it

7416
03:23:06,450 --> 03:23:08,040
basically but he was all right

7417
03:23:08,040 --> 03:23:09,810
i mean he walked away from this

7418
03:23:09,810 --> 03:23:10,120
certainly

7419
03:23:10,120 --> 03:23:11,860
he's gonna get back he's got 59

7420
03:23:11,860 --> 03:23:13,360
years old right and he's doing

7421
03:23:13,360 --> 03:23:14,670
this stuff now you've got a

7422
03:23:14,670 --> 03:23:15,240
website

7423
03:23:15,240 --> 03:23:16,700
the spirit of america that

7424
03:23:16,700 --> 03:23:18,480
explains all this stuff uh tell

7425
03:23:18,480 --> 03:23:19,890
us what's on the site uh what

7426
03:23:19,890 --> 03:23:20,520
we have is

7427
03:23:20,520 --> 03:23:21,790
information about the the

7428
03:23:21,790 --> 03:23:22,860
biography of craig his his

7429
03:23:22,860 --> 03:23:24,300
background with his other cars

7430
03:23:24,300 --> 03:23:25,240
a lot of information

7431
03:23:25,240 --> 03:23:26,440
about his past you've got

7432
03:23:26,440 --> 03:23:27,960
pictures of the cars certainly

7433
03:23:27,960 --> 03:23:29,160
and the new one uh a lot of

7434
03:23:29,160 --> 03:23:29,960
specifications

7435
03:23:29,960 --> 03:23:32,080
yeah i think there's look at

7436
03:23:32,080 --> 03:23:34,190
the look at the uh pictures on

7437
03:23:34,190 --> 03:23:36,350
the home page pictures on the

7438
03:23:36,350 --> 03:23:37,080
home page

7439
03:23:37,080 --> 03:23:38,900
i think they're funny they just

7440
03:23:38,900 --> 03:23:40,440
have the face no one face of

7441
03:23:40,440 --> 03:23:41,720
the statue of liberty

7442
03:23:45,080 --> 03:23:53,800
the new car

7443
03:23:53,800 --> 03:23:56,340
uh a lot of videos yeah i think

7444
03:23:56,340 --> 03:23:57,800
there's some short time

7445
03:23:57,800 --> 03:24:10,520
uh

7446
03:24:10,520 --> 03:24:10,520
uh

7447
03:24:10,520 --> 03:24:11,640
uh

7448
03:24:11,640 --> 03:24:12,520
uh

7449
03:24:12,520 --> 03:24:13,640
yeah i think there's some short

7450
03:24:13,640 --> 03:24:15,320
time movies and we've got um uh

7451
03:24:15,320 --> 03:24:16,680
updates about where where the

7452
03:24:16,680 --> 03:24:18,030
situation is now rebuilding the

7453
03:24:18,030 --> 03:24:19,230
car when we're going to start

7454
03:24:19,230 --> 03:24:20,120
running it again and

7455
03:24:25,400 --> 03:24:23,030
what people can do to find out

7456
03:24:23,030 --> 03:24:26,070
more great stuff out there you

7457
03:24:26,070 --> 03:24:29,490
mentioned briefly start running

7458
03:24:29,490 --> 03:24:30,200
it again

7459
03:24:30,200 --> 03:24:31,660
and uh what people can do it's

7460
03:24:31,660 --> 03:24:32,520
a great picture

7461
03:24:36,520 --> 03:24:37,980
something about the low quality

7462
03:24:37,980 --> 03:24:39,030
always kind of gives it a

7463
03:24:39,030 --> 03:24:39,800
different feel

7464
03:24:41,720 --> 03:24:42,450
like it could be a video game

7465
03:24:42,450 --> 03:24:44,650
like you know that that could

7466
03:24:44,650 --> 03:24:46,540
be out of a game or something

7467
03:24:46,540 --> 03:24:46,680
but

7468
03:24:46,680 --> 03:24:48,110
it's real it's a real picture

7469
03:24:48,110 --> 03:24:50,000
and that was the yoke that he

7470
03:24:50,000 --> 03:24:52,200
crashed 600 mile per hour

7471
03:24:52,840 --> 03:24:53,480
u-turn

7472
03:24:54,040 --> 03:24:55,460
fucking horror show but he

7473
03:24:55,460 --> 03:24:56,860
walked away from us to find out

7474
03:24:56,860 --> 03:24:58,240
more now the enemy out there

7475
03:24:58,240 --> 03:24:58,360
you

7476
03:24:58,360 --> 03:24:59,590
mentioned briefly is this

7477
03:24:59,590 --> 03:25:00,770
english guy who holds the

7478
03:25:00,770 --> 03:25:02,150
record another country named

7479
03:25:02,150 --> 03:25:03,080
richard noble he's

7480
03:25:03,080 --> 03:25:04,760
got his own website what's his

7481
03:25:04,760 --> 03:25:06,450
story what how's he different

7482
03:25:06,450 --> 03:25:08,070
rival website enemy but he's

7483
03:25:08,070 --> 03:25:08,920
definitely

7484
03:25:08,920 --> 03:25:10,410
he's definitely a man we

7485
03:25:10,410 --> 03:25:12,210
respect and uh uh and keeps it

7486
03:25:12,210 --> 03:25:14,220
competitive but his his website

7487
03:25:14,220 --> 03:25:14,840
gives him

7488
03:25:14,840 --> 03:25:15,770
a very good a lot of

7489
03:25:15,770 --> 03:25:17,420
information about his ongoing

7490
03:25:17,420 --> 03:25:18,930
efforts they ran this really

7491
03:25:18,930 --> 03:25:20,200
cool picture of his car

7492
03:25:20,200 --> 03:25:21,540
in there which is like two jet

7493
03:25:21,540 --> 03:25:22,930
engines right yeah it's a twin

7494
03:25:22,930 --> 03:25:24,680
engine car with a central fuselage

7495
03:25:24,680 --> 03:25:24,840
where

7496
03:25:24,840 --> 03:25:26,440
he uh andy green is his driver

7497
03:25:26,440 --> 03:25:28,190
and uh they'll be running again

7498
03:25:28,190 --> 03:25:29,740
this year i think as early as

7499
03:25:29,740 --> 03:25:30,280
march

7500
03:25:31,160 --> 03:25:31,660
now what is this fascination

7501
03:25:31,660 --> 03:25:32,970
for you i mean you spend your

7502
03:25:32,970 --> 03:25:34,460
life you tell me you work seven

7503
03:25:34,460 --> 03:25:34,840
days a

7504
03:25:34,840 --> 03:25:36,520
week 20 hours a day just to

7505
03:25:36,520 --> 03:25:38,160
just to run a car faster than

7506
03:25:38,160 --> 03:25:39,760
anybody else i mean what what

7507
03:25:39,760 --> 03:25:40,440
intrigues

7508
03:25:40,440 --> 03:25:41,750
you about this well when i was

7509
03:25:41,750 --> 03:25:43,170
very young craig's craig was

7510
03:25:43,170 --> 03:25:44,440
doing this before i was born

7511
03:25:44,440 --> 03:25:44,840
but when i was

7512
03:25:44,840 --> 03:25:46,060
very young i was i remember

7513
03:25:46,060 --> 03:25:47,390
reading the guinness book of

7514
03:25:47,390 --> 03:25:48,910
world i thought this stuff was

7515
03:25:48,910 --> 03:25:48,920
exciting

7516
03:25:48,920 --> 03:25:50,870
thanks very much robert kind of

7517
03:25:50,870 --> 03:25:52,150
pushed me towards an

7518
03:25:52,150 --> 03:25:54,030
involvement in science and in

7519
03:25:54,030 --> 03:25:55,160
aviation and and i

7520
03:25:55,160 --> 03:25:56,720
really wanted to do something

7521
03:25:56,720 --> 03:25:57,930
uh that was generally

7522
03:25:57,930 --> 03:25:59,270
inspirational i felt like you

7523
03:25:59,270 --> 03:26:00,360
know there's enough

7524
03:26:00,360 --> 03:26:01,740
things that that are that are

7525
03:26:01,740 --> 03:26:02,730
not particularly uh

7526
03:26:02,730 --> 03:26:04,300
intellectual in this world that

7527
03:26:04,300 --> 03:26:05,160
are leading kids

7528
03:26:05,160 --> 03:26:06,250
today and i just wanted to do

7529
03:26:06,250 --> 03:26:07,400
something that would be into

7530
03:26:07,400 --> 03:26:08,490
cars in greece and be a smart

7531
03:26:08,490 --> 03:26:09,240
guy at the same

7532
03:26:09,240 --> 03:26:10,620
yeah there's nothing wrong with

7533
03:26:10,620 --> 03:26:11,570
that and your this your

7534
03:26:11,570 --> 03:26:12,910
background is aerospace i mean

7535
03:26:12,910 --> 03:26:13,480
you're really

7536
03:26:13,480 --> 03:26:15,050
building planes to stick to the

7537
03:26:15,050 --> 03:26:16,230
ground yeah i'm a complete

7538
03:26:16,230 --> 03:26:17,680
automotive idiot i don't know

7539
03:26:17,680 --> 03:26:18,280
about that

7540
03:26:18,280 --> 03:26:19,620
my background thanks a lot

7541
03:26:19,620 --> 03:26:21,370
thanks thanks david on tonight's

7542
03:26:21,370 --> 03:26:22,930
cyber blast we're going to send

7543
03:26:22,930 --> 03:26:23,560
you four

7544
03:26:23,560 --> 03:26:24,820
files a game a database a

7545
03:26:24,820 --> 03:26:26,400
utility and a sound clip we'll

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03:26:26,400 --> 03:26:28,040
be downloading to you more than

7547
03:26:28,040 --> 03:26:29,080
four megabytes of

7548
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you can actually see the data

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downloading to your pc right

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to get these files this fast

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03:26:42,630 --> 03:26:43,880
that later you can also

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03:26:43,880 --> 03:26:45,530
download these files through

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7560
03:26:46,600 --> 03:26:48,310
your regular telephone modem

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03:26:52,130 --> 03:26:53,560
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7564
03:26:53,560 --> 03:26:54,820
me tell you what we're sending

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you first of all we're sending

7566
03:26:56,090 --> 03:26:57,640
you a very interesting shareware

7567
03:26:57,640 --> 03:26:58,200
application

7568
03:26:58,200 --> 03:26:59,850
called program x this is an

7569
03:26:59,850 --> 03:27:01,510
integrated weird science

7570
03:27:01,510 --> 03:27:03,460
database and analysis program

7571
03:27:03,460 --> 03:27:04,840
it includes information

7572
03:27:04,840 --> 03:27:07,550
on numerology astrology esp ufos

7573
03:27:07,550 --> 03:27:09,710
etc it lets you analyze the

7574
03:27:09,710 --> 03:27:12,230
information you gather in text

7575
03:27:12,230 --> 03:27:13,240
and graphs

7576
03:27:13,240 --> 03:27:14,980
next up a program called bio

7577
03:27:14,980 --> 03:27:16,880
sequences 32 this is a bio

7578
03:27:16,880 --> 03:27:18,930
rhythm calculator program that

7579
03:27:18,930 --> 03:27:19,960
lets you chart the

7580
03:27:19,960 --> 03:27:21,790
three major biological rhythms

7581
03:27:21,790 --> 03:27:23,200
of your body which govern

7582
03:27:23,200 --> 03:27:24,750
intellectual physical and

7583
03:27:24,750 --> 03:27:26,200
emotional aspects of your

7584
03:27:26,200 --> 03:27:27,920
life we're also sending you a

7585
03:27:27,920 --> 03:27:29,680
cool spacey game called q bob

7586
03:27:29,680 --> 03:27:31,430
if you remember the game q bert

7587
03:27:31,430 --> 03:27:32,280
this is very

7588
03:27:32,280 --> 03:27:33,780
similar this is an arcade

7589
03:27:33,780 --> 03:27:35,460
action game in which you have

7590
03:27:35,460 --> 03:27:36,940
to get q bob to jump around

7591
03:27:36,940 --> 03:27:38,040
from asteroid to

7592
03:27:38,040 --> 03:27:39,590
asteroid to demolish them

7593
03:27:39,590 --> 03:27:41,410
before they demolish the earth

7594
03:27:41,410 --> 03:27:43,370
finally if you love the mel brooks

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03:27:43,370 --> 03:27:44,200
movie young

7596
03:27:44,200 --> 03:27:46,040
frankenstein we have a classic

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to you as a wave file remember

7599
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we're sending

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03:27:50,360 --> 03:27:52,010
all four files to you right now

7601
03:27:52,010 --> 03:27:53,730
through the tv signal over four

7602
03:27:53,730 --> 03:27:55,480
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7603
03:27:55,480 --> 03:27:56,040
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7604
03:27:56,040 --> 03:27:57,260
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7605
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technology if you need

7606
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information on how to receive a

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cyber blast or

7608
03:28:01,240 --> 03:28:03,000
on how to buy or install a tv

7609
03:28:03,000 --> 03:28:04,630
modem just check out the

7610
03:28:04,630 --> 03:28:06,520
internet cafe section of our

7611
03:28:06,520 --> 03:28:08,120
website at pctv.com

7612
03:28:08,120 --> 03:28:09,560
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7613
03:28:09,560 --> 03:28:11,180
complete have fun with your new

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cyber blast on

7616
03:28:13,240 --> 03:28:15,120
the internet cafe i'm laurie

7617
03:28:15,120 --> 03:28:17,560
anderson so ron you're the webmaster

7618
03:28:17,560 --> 03:28:19,600
of the exploratorium which was

7619
03:28:19,600 --> 03:28:19,960
one of my

7620
03:28:19,960 --> 03:28:21,030
favorite places as a kid to go

7621
03:28:21,030 --> 03:28:22,210
to my favorite place too you've

7622
03:28:22,210 --> 03:28:23,310
been there a while you've been

7623
03:28:23,310 --> 03:28:24,120
my favorite place for

7624
03:28:24,120 --> 03:28:25,930
my favorite place for 25 years

7625
03:28:25,930 --> 03:28:27,490
that's excellent that's a lot

7626
03:28:27,490 --> 03:28:28,840
of time um as a kid i loved to

7627
03:28:28,840 --> 03:28:29,560
go there it was

7628
03:28:29,560 --> 03:28:31,000
a way that i could learn about

7629
03:28:31,000 --> 03:28:32,400
science and also kind of get

7630
03:28:32,400 --> 03:28:33,970
wild we were always confined in

7631
03:28:33,970 --> 03:28:34,520
school and

7632
03:28:34,520 --> 03:28:35,860
they were like we're going here

7633
03:28:35,860 --> 03:28:36,600
you can go get ham

7634
03:28:36,600 --> 03:28:45,380
hello francis you're still

7635
03:28:45,380 --> 03:28:47,320
there

7636
03:28:47,880 --> 03:28:58,870
hello francis you're still

7637
03:28:58,870 --> 03:28:59,320
there

7638
03:29:02,120 --> 03:29:03,860
i'm trying to get inside the

7639
03:29:03,860 --> 03:29:06,100
house i've lost the key are you

7640
03:29:06,100 --> 03:29:09,550
still streaming oh yeah yeah

7641
03:29:09,550 --> 03:29:10,520
okay

7642
03:29:15,000 --> 03:29:17,160
i'll call back in 20 minutes

7643
03:29:18,840 --> 03:29:19,240
get it

7644
03:29:23,240 --> 03:29:21,920
hands-on you can touch things

7645
03:29:21,920 --> 03:29:24,500
things finally it was a place

7646
03:29:24,500 --> 03:29:27,080
that said do touch exactly so

7647
03:29:27,080 --> 03:29:27,960
tell me a little

7648
03:29:27,960 --> 03:29:29,080
bit more about the exploratory

7649
03:29:33,880 --> 03:29:36,130
in 1969 by Frank Oppenheimer.

7650
03:29:36,130 --> 03:29:37,640
And he did a survey of how

7651
03:29:37,640 --> 03:29:39,390
people learn in museums and

7652
03:29:39,390 --> 03:29:40,870
decided that this participatory

7653
03:29:40,870 --> 03:29:42,580
method was one that was not

7654
03:29:42,580 --> 03:29:44,000
being exploited quite a bit at

7655
03:29:44,000 --> 03:29:45,720
all, really. And so he founded

7656
03:29:45,720 --> 03:29:47,110
this museum to really get

7657
03:29:47,110 --> 03:29:48,700
people involved in their own

7658
03:29:48,700 --> 03:29:50,360
learning. Excellent. And so

7659
03:29:50,360 --> 03:29:51,690
what are an example of the kind

7660
03:29:51,690 --> 03:29:52,970
of experiment that you would

7661
03:29:52,970 --> 03:29:54,730
find there? Oh, a good exhibit

7662
03:29:54,730 --> 03:29:56,150
might be one called vocal

7663
03:29:56,150 --> 03:29:57,900
vowels, where you learn about

7664
03:29:57,900 --> 03:29:59,330
how sounds are made by your

7665
03:29:59,330 --> 03:30:01,140
throat by actually injecting a

7666
03:30:01,140 --> 03:30:02,920
sound, a buzzing sound, into a

7667
03:30:02,920 --> 03:30:03,860
plastic model of

7668
03:30:03,860 --> 03:30:05,380
your vocal track. See, that's

7669
03:30:05,380 --> 03:30:06,610
perfect for kids. That's what

7670
03:30:06,610 --> 03:30:07,760
they want to do is get to sort

7671
03:30:07,760 --> 03:30:09,170
of yell into something. Yeah,

7672
03:30:09,170 --> 03:30:10,480
it has a bellows. You make a

7673
03:30:10,480 --> 03:30:11,570
squacking noise and then you

7674
03:30:11,570 --> 03:30:12,860
hear what it sounds like. And

7675
03:30:12,860 --> 03:30:14,080
actually that exhibit we've

7676
03:30:14,080 --> 03:30:15,270
actually put on the web so you

7677
03:30:15,270 --> 03:30:16,720
can visit that exhibit too. Oh,

7678
03:30:16,720 --> 03:30:18,130
excellent. Well, okay, that

7679
03:30:18,130 --> 03:30:19,280
brings me to sort of the next

7680
03:30:19,280 --> 03:30:20,380
area is now you've got this

7681
03:30:20,380 --> 03:30:21,680
great museum. It's been very

7682
03:30:21,680 --> 03:30:23,040
popular, very successful. I

7683
03:30:23,040 --> 03:30:24,290
think world dignitaries have

7684
03:30:24,290 --> 03:30:25,710
come and seen this place. Now

7685
03:30:25,710 --> 03:30:26,910
you want to put it out onto the

7686
03:30:26,910 --> 03:30:28,040
internet. How have you gone

7687
03:30:28,040 --> 03:30:29,290
about doing that and what's up

7688
03:30:29,290 --> 03:30:30,590
on the Exploratorium site? A

7689
03:30:30,590 --> 03:30:31,640
lot of it is exploring new

7690
03:30:31,640 --> 03:30:32,810
technologies and ways to do

7691
03:30:32,810 --> 03:30:33,840
that.

7692
03:30:33,840 --> 03:30:35,520
Doing pictures and text is a

7693
03:30:35,520 --> 03:30:37,450
good beginning, but it doesn't

7694
03:30:37,450 --> 03:30:39,470
quite get there. So we've tried

7695
03:30:39,470 --> 03:30:40,770
to exploit all the new

7696
03:30:40,770 --> 03:30:42,610
technologies as they've come

7697
03:30:42,610 --> 03:30:44,740
out using QuickTime VR, using

7698
03:30:44,740 --> 03:30:46,270
Shockwave, using sound real

7699
03:30:46,270 --> 03:30:48,000
audio and all those kinds of

7700
03:30:48,000 --> 03:30:48,860
things.

7701
03:30:48,860 --> 03:30:53,770
So you've got audio, you've got

7702
03:30:53,770 --> 03:30:58,320
moving pictures, you've got

7703
03:30:58,320 --> 03:31:03,060
animations. What are some of

7704
03:31:03,060 --> 03:31:07,620
the exhibits that are up there

7705
03:31:07,620 --> 03:31:11,880
now that kind of take some of

7706
03:31:11,880 --> 03:31:14,520
these things? Well, for

7707
03:31:14,520 --> 03:31:14,520
instance, let's see. We have

7708
03:31:14,520 --> 03:31:14,520
the cow's eye dissection, which

7709
03:31:14,520 --> 03:31:14,520
is a good beginning. So you've

7710
03:31:14,520 --> 03:31:14,520
got audio, you've got moving

7711
03:31:14,520 --> 03:31:14,520
pictures, you've got animations.

7712
03:31:14,520 --> 03:31:14,520
What are some of the exhibits

7713
03:31:14,520 --> 03:31:14,520
that are up there now that kind

7714
03:31:14,520 --> 03:31:14,520
of take some of these things?

7715
03:31:14,860 --> 03:31:16,530
For instance, let's see. We

7716
03:31:16,530 --> 03:31:18,260
have the cow's eye dissection,

7717
03:31:18,260 --> 03:31:19,800
which has been a very popular

7718
03:31:19,800 --> 03:31:21,260
one. I remember that when I was

7719
03:31:21,260 --> 03:31:22,230
a kid. It is a wonderful

7720
03:31:22,230 --> 03:31:23,460
exhibit that most people think

7721
03:31:23,460 --> 03:31:24,630
is really gross, but once you

7722
03:31:24,630 --> 03:31:25,600
get into it, it's pretty

7723
03:31:25,600 --> 03:31:26,460
fascinating.

7724
03:31:26,780 --> 03:31:28,410
So walk someone through that.

7725
03:31:28,410 --> 03:31:30,410
What is it? In that exhibit, we

7726
03:31:30,410 --> 03:31:32,150
actually will tell you how to

7727
03:31:32,150 --> 03:31:33,620
dissect a cow's eye with

7728
03:31:33,620 --> 03:31:35,710
pictures and with the explainers

7729
03:31:35,710 --> 03:31:37,530
telling you with real audio how

7730
03:31:37,530 --> 03:31:39,320
to go about those steps.

7731
03:31:39,420 --> 03:31:40,270
And it's pretty gruesome

7732
03:31:40,270 --> 03:31:41,520
looking, even on the web. Well,

7733
03:31:41,520 --> 03:31:42,530
it's pretty gruesome looking,

7734
03:31:42,530 --> 03:31:43,430
but you can't, it's one of the

7735
03:31:43,430 --> 03:31:44,370
things you can't stop looking

7736
03:31:44,370 --> 03:31:45,020
at either.

7737
03:31:45,140 --> 03:31:46,290
No, in fact, I saw that you

7738
03:31:46,290 --> 03:31:47,830
even. But you can't, it's one

7739
03:31:47,830 --> 03:31:49,020
of the things you can.

7740
03:32:02,620 --> 03:32:04,120
stop looking at either. It's

7741
03:32:04,120 --> 03:32:05,930
too fascinating. No, in fact, I

7742
03:32:05,930 --> 03:32:08,190
saw that you even had some

7743
03:32:08,190 --> 03:32:09,500
areas of like how to actually

7744
03:32:09,500 --> 03:32:11,180
go find a cow's eye if you don't

7745
03:32:11,180 --> 03:32:12,520
know where to get one in the

7746
03:32:12,520 --> 03:32:13,900
community. Yeah, you could

7747
03:32:13,900 --> 03:32:15,250
probably go do a Lycos search

7748
03:32:15,250 --> 03:32:16,480
or an Alta Vista search for

7749
03:32:16,480 --> 03:32:17,840
eyeballs to tell you where to

7750
03:32:17,840 --> 03:32:19,590
find them. And so what are some

7751
03:32:19,590 --> 03:32:21,030
of the other exhibits that are

7752
03:32:21,030 --> 03:32:22,670
up there now? Oh, the vocal vows

7753
03:32:22,670 --> 03:32:24,030
is one of them. We have some

7754
03:32:24,030 --> 03:32:25,480
other larger kind of teaching

7755
03:32:25,480 --> 03:32:26,980
things like Bob Miller's Light

7756
03:32:26,980 --> 03:32:28,530
Walk, which will teach you new

7757
03:32:28,530 --> 03:32:29,640
ways to look at light and

7758
03:32:29,640 --> 03:32:30,940
shadow and images that ways

7759
03:32:30,940 --> 03:32:32,600
that you've never even thought

7760
03:32:32,600 --> 03:32:34,460
of before. It's taught me whole

7761
03:32:34,460 --> 03:32:36,200
new ways to look at that area.

7762
03:32:36,200 --> 03:32:37,680
And this is an interactive

7763
03:32:37,680 --> 03:32:39,550
exhibit? This is really a light

7764
03:32:39,550 --> 03:32:41,160
walk that an artist gives and

7765
03:32:41,160 --> 03:32:42,970
talks about light and images.

7766
03:32:42,970 --> 03:32:44,440
And we sort of go on the walk

7767
03:32:44,440 --> 03:32:46,250
with him in text and pictures.

7768
03:32:46,250 --> 03:32:47,470
And then we have other

7769
03:32:47,470 --> 03:32:48,940
activities that you can do

7770
03:32:48,940 --> 03:32:50,690
after viewing that, building

7771
03:32:50,690 --> 03:32:52,420
pinhole cameras and all kinds

7772
03:32:52,420 --> 03:32:54,260
of other activities. And other

7773
03:32:54,260 --> 03:32:55,860
places you go on the internet

7774
03:32:55,860 --> 03:32:57,650
also to find related things,

7775
03:32:57,650 --> 03:32:59,080
pinhole photographers and

7776
03:32:59,080 --> 03:33:01,030
things like that. Excellent.

7777
03:33:01,030 --> 03:33:02,580
Now you mentioned

7778
03:33:02,580 --> 03:33:04,070
the photographer and I have

7779
03:33:04,070 --> 03:33:05,680
seen also the Nagasaki photos

7780
03:33:05,680 --> 03:33:07,280
are up there. That was a real

7781
03:33:07,280 --> 03:33:09,160
popular exhibit that we did.

7782
03:33:09,160 --> 03:33:10,950
Nagasaki. In association with

7783
03:33:10,950 --> 03:33:12,490
an exhibit at the Ansel Adams

7784
03:33:12,490 --> 03:33:13,920
Gallery, we did an online

7785
03:33:13,920 --> 03:33:15,650
version which displayed the

7786
03:33:15,650 --> 03:33:16,570
photographs of this

7787
03:33:16,570 --> 03:33:18,250
photographer who came back the

7788
03:33:18,250 --> 03:33:19,980
day after the bomb was dropped,

7789
03:33:19,980 --> 03:33:21,480
took these very compelling

7790
03:33:21,480 --> 03:33:23,490
photographs. But in addition,

7791
03:33:23,490 --> 03:33:25,030
we asked people to send in what

7792
03:33:25,030 --> 03:33:26,830
their memories were of Nagasaki,

7793
03:33:26,830 --> 03:33:28,070
of the atomic bomb or the

7794
03:33:28,070 --> 03:33:29,600
bombing or learning about the

7795
03:33:29,600 --> 03:33:31,190
atomic bomb. So you wouldn't

7796
03:33:31,190 --> 03:33:32,560
have to be that old.

7797
03:33:32,560 --> 03:33:34,240
And posted those. And we posted

7798
03:33:34,240 --> 03:33:35,560
those on the web and people

7799
03:33:35,560 --> 03:33:37,060
could have a discussion on the

7800
03:33:37,060 --> 03:33:38,560
web then about the atomic bomb

7801
03:33:38,560 --> 03:33:39,560
and its effects.

7802
03:33:39,560 --> 03:33:41,700
Nice discussions to be had

7803
03:33:41,700 --> 03:33:44,810
about Nagasaki. Look at how 90s

7804
03:33:44,810 --> 03:33:47,340
that situation is. Just that

7805
03:33:47,340 --> 03:33:50,100
shot is. Thanks very much Crazy

7806
03:33:50,100 --> 03:33:52,710
Gamer for the tip and Q Schlug.

7807
03:33:52,710 --> 03:33:54,420
Very kindy lads.

7808
03:33:55,560 --> 03:33:57,580
They sent us entire essays.

7809
03:33:57,580 --> 03:33:59,360
Really well thought out,

7810
03:33:59,360 --> 03:34:01,680
thoughtful commentary on their

7811
03:34:01,680 --> 03:34:03,610
memories. Well thank you very

7812
03:34:03,610 --> 03:34:05,560
much. Thank you. Pleasure.

7813
03:34:17,560 --> 03:34:24,850
What the fuck is that one? What

7814
03:34:24,850 --> 03:34:31,420
the fuck is that one? It's like

7815
03:34:31,420 --> 03:34:34,440
a spinning stick.

7816
03:34:34,440 --> 03:34:40,720
Is that your man that was just

7817
03:34:40,720 --> 03:34:47,780
being interviewed there? Who

7818
03:34:47,780 --> 03:34:52,060
looked like Tom?

7819
03:35:01,440 --> 03:35:02,440
God.

7820
03:35:02,440 --> 03:35:04,890
Hi. Welcome to the Twinkie

7821
03:35:04,890 --> 03:35:08,580
Project. Here is our control Twinkie.

7822
03:35:08,580 --> 03:35:11,660
Here is our water. Here is our

7823
03:35:11,660 --> 03:35:14,090
radioactive Twinkie. Don't do

7824
03:35:14,090 --> 03:35:16,440
this to your children.

7825
03:35:16,440 --> 03:35:21,550
This poor Twinkie is a battery.

7826
03:35:21,550 --> 03:35:25,830
It has so much power it's not

7827
03:35:25,830 --> 03:35:28,040
even funny.

7828
03:35:28,040 --> 03:35:32,780
Nobody move please. It can run

7829
03:35:32,780 --> 03:35:34,980
you for days. Try this weird

7830
03:35:34,980 --> 03:35:37,080
Walkman. If you want more

7831
03:35:37,080 --> 03:35:39,410
information about Twinkies go

7832
03:35:39,410 --> 03:35:41,570
to the Twinkie Project on the

7833
03:35:41,570 --> 03:35:43,040
World Wide Web.

7834
03:35:43,040 --> 03:35:45,040
*Gunshot*

7835
03:35:45,040 --> 03:35:47,040
*Gunshot*

7836
03:35:47,040 --> 03:35:49,040
*Gunshot*

7837
03:35:49,040 --> 03:35:51,040
*Gunshot*

7838
03:35:51,040 --> 03:35:53,040
*Gunshot*

7839
03:35:53,040 --> 03:36:23,020
The End

7840
03:36:23,020 --> 03:36:53,000
The End

7841
03:36:53,000 --> 03:36:59,100
All right, not weird people.

7842
03:36:59,280 --> 03:37:00,000
The show is about weird...

7843
03:37:00,000 --> 03:37:00,580
All right.

7844
03:37:02,160 --> 03:37:03,120
Lovely slice of dead air before

7845
03:37:03,120 --> 03:37:04,340
the...

7846
03:37:04,340 --> 03:37:04,760
All right.

7847
03:37:07,880 --> 03:37:09,540
All right, not weird people.

7848
03:37:09,660 --> 03:37:10,840
The show is about weird science

7849
03:37:10,840 --> 03:37:11,680
tonight, okay?

7850
03:37:11,780 --> 03:37:12,720
Would you guys calm down?

7851
03:37:13,460 --> 03:37:14,800
It's been a wild night.

7852
03:37:15,340 --> 03:37:15,680
All right, so what did you

7853
03:37:15,680 --> 03:37:16,060
think?

7854
03:37:16,080 --> 03:37:16,660
Did you have fun?

7855
03:37:16,780 --> 03:37:17,520
I had a great time.

7856
03:37:17,860 --> 03:37:19,360
I think, you know, my view on

7857
03:37:19,360 --> 03:37:20,780
the world, not being a great

7858
03:37:20,780 --> 03:37:22,460
scientist, although somewhat

7859
03:37:22,460 --> 03:37:23,750
crazy in the kitchen, but I

7860
03:37:23,750 --> 03:37:25,110
think what was neat for me was

7861
03:37:25,110 --> 03:37:26,440
I saw an application of the

7862
03:37:26,440 --> 03:37:27,750
Internet in a totally new way,

7863
03:37:27,750 --> 03:37:29,100
which was a place not where you'd

7864
03:37:29,100 --> 03:37:30,300
go and gather information

7865
03:37:30,300 --> 03:37:30,880
and take it back.

7866
03:37:30,940 --> 03:37:31,960
It's a place where you'd go,

7867
03:37:31,960 --> 03:37:33,120
you'd plant a seed, you'd come

7868
03:37:33,120 --> 03:37:34,260
back over and over again to

7869
03:37:34,260 --> 03:37:34,520
watch

7870
03:37:34,520 --> 03:37:35,900
it growing and watering it and

7871
03:37:35,900 --> 03:37:37,200
planting another seed.

7872
03:37:37,260 --> 03:37:38,230
Really two-way, real

7873
03:37:38,230 --> 03:37:39,020
interactive.

7874
03:37:39,020 --> 03:37:40,460
Yeah, it was a whole different

7875
03:37:40,460 --> 03:37:41,810
application for me, which I

7876
03:37:41,810 --> 03:37:43,240
thought was pretty jazzy.

7877
03:37:44,640 --> 03:37:45,520
And Mr. DeVries, why couldn't

7878
03:37:45,520 --> 03:37:47,820
you just do that in your house?

7879
03:37:48,100 --> 03:37:48,580
I do.

7880
03:37:48,780 --> 03:37:49,400
Oh, okay.

7881
03:37:49,440 --> 03:37:50,980
My cilantro is going very well.

7882
03:37:50,980 --> 03:37:51,300
That wouldn't be weird.

7883
03:37:52,000 --> 03:37:53,510
I like that there's some really

7884
03:37:53,510 --> 03:37:56,040
fun sites out there for science.

7885
03:37:56,180 --> 03:37:57,230
I always found science a little

7886
03:37:57,230 --> 03:37:58,520
bit deteriorating, a little bit

7887
03:37:58,520 --> 03:37:59,620
even boring sometimes.

7888
03:37:59,860 --> 03:38:00,820
This is a way to sort of make

7889
03:38:00,820 --> 03:38:02,230
it fun, you know, this annals

7890
03:38:02,230 --> 03:38:03,620
of improbable research sort

7891
03:38:03,620 --> 03:38:05,300
of poking, you know, jokes at

7892
03:38:05,300 --> 03:38:06,930
the scientific community and

7893
03:38:06,930 --> 03:38:08,500
also the exploratorium.

7894
03:38:08,500 --> 03:38:09,840
You don't tend to think about

7895
03:38:09,840 --> 03:38:11,280
the scientific community.

7896
03:38:11,440 --> 03:38:12,060
Always fun.

7897
03:38:12,420 --> 03:38:13,500
Dissecting a cow's eye and do

7898
03:38:13,500 --> 03:38:14,220
it online.

7899
03:38:14,220 --> 03:38:15,120
That sounds like fun.

7900
03:38:15,140 --> 03:38:16,220
Yeah, it's pretty interesting.

7901
03:38:16,500 --> 03:38:17,190
Well, what I thought was

7902
03:38:17,190 --> 03:38:18,530
interesting is, you know, we

7903
03:38:18,530 --> 03:38:19,620
call it weird science, but you

7904
03:38:19,620 --> 03:38:19,940
never

7905
03:38:19,940 --> 03:38:20,100
know.

7906
03:38:20,160 --> 03:38:21,420
Today's weird science can

7907
03:38:21,420 --> 03:38:22,930
become the not-so-weird real

7908
03:38:22,930 --> 03:38:24,220
science of tomorrow.

7909
03:38:24,320 --> 03:38:25,420
My guess is people thought

7910
03:38:25,420 --> 03:38:26,770
Galileo was a weird scientist

7911
03:38:26,770 --> 03:38:28,120
at one point and then all of a

7912
03:38:28,120 --> 03:38:28,700
sudden he's right.

7913
03:38:29,000 --> 03:38:29,950
So who knows what's weird and

7914
03:38:29,950 --> 03:38:30,620
what's not?

7915
03:38:31,840 --> 03:38:32,230
We'll see you next week right

7916
03:38:32,230 --> 03:38:33,520
here at the...

7917
03:38:33,520 --> 03:38:35,180
That was a weird hanging chat.

7918
03:38:35,520 --> 03:38:36,620
So who knows what's weird and

7919
03:38:36,620 --> 03:38:37,380
what's not?

7920
03:38:37,980 --> 03:38:39,540
We'll see you next week right

7921
03:38:39,540 --> 03:38:41,060
here at the Internet Cafe.

7922
03:38:41,760 --> 03:38:42,740
The Internet Cafe is made

7923
03:38:42,740 --> 03:38:44,700
possible in part by Intel.

7924
03:38:45,300 --> 03:38:46,330
One innovative idea always

7925
03:38:46,330 --> 03:38:47,560
leads to another.

7926
03:38:48,080 --> 03:38:49,010
Now there are connected CD-ROMs

7927
03:38:49,010 --> 03:38:50,440
that link rich multimedia with

7928
03:38:50,440 --> 03:38:51,760
related information on the

7929
03:38:51,760 --> 03:38:52,760
Internet.

7930
03:38:52,760 --> 03:38:54,600
The connected CD-ROMs, it's the

7931
03:38:54,600 --> 03:38:56,340
Intel Pentium processor.

7932
03:38:58,760 --> 03:39:01,400
Some controller, some operator.

7933
03:39:01,400 --> 03:39:03,350
Although I thought the earlier

7934
03:39:03,350 --> 03:39:05,520
episodes of Computer Chronicles

7935
03:39:05,520 --> 03:39:06,600
yielded more.

7936
03:39:06,600 --> 03:39:09,620
Call 1-800-916-PC-TV.

7937
03:39:09,620 --> 03:39:10,810
The date sometimes doesn't

7938
03:39:10,810 --> 03:39:11,320
matter.

7939
03:39:12,140 --> 03:39:13,320
The energy was here for this,

7940
03:39:13,320 --> 03:39:15,400
but the sound wasn't great.

7941
03:39:15,820 --> 03:39:16,940
Call today for your copy of

7942
03:39:16,940 --> 03:39:18,640
this episode of the Internet

7943
03:39:18,640 --> 03:39:20,980
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7944
03:39:20,980 --> 03:39:21,620
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7945
03:39:22,180 --> 03:39:23,440
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7946
03:39:23,440 --> 03:39:25,420
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7947
03:39:25,980 --> 03:39:29,220
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7948
03:39:29,220 --> 03:39:29,640
That's it.

7949
03:39:29,760 --> 03:39:47,200
It's not the iconic outro tune.

7950
03:39:47,360 --> 03:39:50,400
It's just a very stripped down

7951
03:39:50,400 --> 03:39:53,470
dance package with footage of

7952
03:39:53,470 --> 03:39:56,760
some cars and a spinning golden

7953
03:39:56,760 --> 03:39:59,740
tornado inside a jar.

7954
03:39:59,740 --> 03:40:02,180
916. Peace.

7955
03:40:02,180 --> 03:40:25,920
1016. Peace.

7956
03:40:25,920 --> 03:40:55,900
1016. Peace.

7957
03:40:55,900 --> 03:41:25,880
1016. Peace.

7958
03:41:25,880 --> 03:41:44,640
1016. Peace.