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Count mountains. One, two,

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three, count you. You're a cool

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thing. Count mountains. One,

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two, three, four, I count

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mountains. One, two, three,

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count you. You're a cool thing.

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Count mountains. One, two,

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three, four, I count mountains.

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One, two, three, count you.

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You're a cool thing. Count

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mountains.

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We'll be right back.

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We'll be right back.

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We'll be right back.

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We'll be right back.

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We'll be right back.

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We'll be right back.

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We go loud.

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The player bleeds.

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Louder.

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Goose cloud.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you very, very much there

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to Notion for the tip.

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Sorry, I've got news talk in my

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ears.

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It's jarring.

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It's very jarring.

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But you're not hearing it.

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But you're not hearing it.

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I don't know why.

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Probably for the best.

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Advanced audio properties.

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Why not?

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Why not?

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I wouldn't go to Blanche.

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I'd stay in Dundra.

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The town centre is not gone.

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I was there earlier on.

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It's fantastic.

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You're going to be right.

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You're going to have to live on

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industrial estates like the one

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in Blanche's town.

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And the only reason I survived

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this long is because it has no

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parking charges.

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You bring in parking charges,

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you'll kill off Blanche's town.

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Utter bollocks.

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We'll get back to that later, I

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think.

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But I wanted to honour my

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previous bond or promise that I

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said I would do a debrief on

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the absolute tactical media

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masterclass,

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which Ivan Yeast displayed at

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the Oireachtas there during the

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week.

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Narubu-san, thank you very much

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for the tip there.

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And Pure Energy, who tipped

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after we finished earlier on.

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And Notion as well.

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Very, very kind of you.

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But, yeah, if you didn't see it,

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it's fantastic.

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It really is.

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Yeast absolutely stormed the

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scene.

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Horses under starlight, thank

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you very much.

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And just put pay to any detractors

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or people there who were biting.

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Really, really cut everyone

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down to size and showed the

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whole hullabaloo for what it

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Just that hullabaloo.

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And also left us wanting more,

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you know, because he solidified

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in a statement that he was

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going to leave the world of

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media.

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But he said he'd still be open

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to a podcast, you know.

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Clarky, thank you very, very

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much for the tip there.

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Happy Friday.

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I've just bought my first house

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and I'm watching live from my

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own little office space.

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What a time to be alive.

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What a time to be alive.

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Thank you very much.

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And to Evan Kilban, thank you

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very much as well.

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Hope you're doing well.

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We'll check that out in a

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moment.

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Just want to hit the laps for

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maybe 10, 20 minutes first just

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to get my bearings.

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It's nice to just Sieg into the

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Yatzer with a few laps of a

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European trophy, European

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championship or something like

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that.

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But these shots of the Gran Turismo

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Cafe never fail to amaze.

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They're stunning.

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And the appreciation that they

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show whenever I turn up or

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drive up their path is second

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to none.

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I'm greeted with plates of meat,

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lashings of ginger ale and hors

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d'oeuvres to beat the band.

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It's a fantastic spot.

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I highly recommend it.

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But I can't exactly tell you

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where it is because they don't

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want anyone going there.

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Just anyone, you know.

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You need to drive in and

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something like that.

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Preferably a sports car or a

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racing car or something like

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that.

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Thank you very much, Ivan Yates

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for No Man.

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Very, very kindy there.

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And Gerbals, thank you very

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much.

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Appreciate if you just didn't.

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If you are Gobbles, then I'll

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call you Gobbles.

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That was a mistake earlier on.

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And I was looking at Nuremberg

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the movie with Russell Crowe,

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who's going to be playing not

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Gerbals, but Goring.

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So I mixed up my Nazis earlier

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on.

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But I'm in no way calling you a

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Nazi at all, Gerbals.

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Or Gobbles, whatever your name.

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Thank you very much.

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And Poddybob, thank you very

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much.

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Your thoughts on the Pascal Donahue

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stepping down his finance.

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Yeah, look, as I said there on

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Wednesday, it's just been an

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incredible, incredible...

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Look at the softs on that car,

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on the wheels.

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It's been an incredible week.

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And no better man to be taking

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over the job.

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I facilitated the deal, of

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course.

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And I'll be going over to DC in

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a few days just to make sure

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that it's a smooth landing.

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I have to head to Vegas in a

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couple of hours.

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So I'm just in Dublin Airport

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at the moment.

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I'm an executive.

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So they give you your own

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little stream room.

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obsessive Yates.

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Thank you very much there.

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My new office is right next to

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government buildings.

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Inspiring stuff.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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Any more details on that?

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Can you get me in for a coffee

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morning or something?

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Not that I need to ask.

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I'm there all the time.

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But, you know...

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Have a word, maybe.

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But, yeah, look.

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Pascal's a fantastic man.

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No better man for the job.

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And, as I said, stone's throw

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when he's there in the World

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Bank from the White House.

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So he's going to be hearing

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some top-level stuff.

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He's going to be privy to a lot

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of top-level details.

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And the surfaces of the office

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where he's going to be situated

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and well-sculpted into a tasteful

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shape as well.

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I was there.

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I was just thinking he has

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landed on his feet here.

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And the body is muscular.

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Of the office, that is.

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It's a muscular, aggressive-looking

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place.

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Great proportions in it.

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And he's got a fountain pen.

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Even though he won't be using

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that.

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It's all digital signatures.

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Gold-plated fountain pen.

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A Parker model.

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But it's gold-plated.

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It's an executive one, you know.

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An executive paperweight as

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well.

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Which was a rabbit's foot.

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Which has also been cast in

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gold.

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So inside a block of gold is an

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actual dead rabbit's foot.

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Make that what you will.

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Some say it's controversial.

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Others say it's satanic.

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I say it's just...

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That's what you do when you're

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in the World Bank.

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You need this sort of stuff.

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Because you're going to have

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players coming in and out of

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your office.

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Money flying around.

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Wads of cash.

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I said, what are you going to

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do, Pascal?

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When you have to fucking play

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hardball with the hard arses.

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And he said, don't worry.

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Because of the lax gun laws

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over there.

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They've actually rigged him out

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with a fucking...

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A machine gun that fires banknotes

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at people.

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Very forcefully.

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But not lethally.

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Into the head.

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Or the chest.

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Anywhere the upper body just

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gives them the shock, you know.

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So, looking forward to seeing

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how he deals with that as well.

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It's sort of like a minigun set

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up with a strap on it.

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That just goes...

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Rolled up wads of cash just

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being fired at someone.

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Imagine that.

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You're not going to argue with

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that.

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I just turned the heat down

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there on the fucking radiator.

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It's too...

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It's too hot in here.

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I still have the thermals on

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from earlier on as well.

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Which can create a bit of a

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warm situation.

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Especially when you're indoors.

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But, um...

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Thank you very much for tuning

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in.

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Uh...

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And thanks very much for tuning

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in earlier on.

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If you could.

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It was quite an early one.

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John!

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Thanks for the tip.

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I've just been made redundant.

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I don't know what to do.

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Have a few days off.

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Enjoy your time in the

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mountains.

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Change the game.

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Dot ie.

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Get back in the ring.

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Get the gloves on.

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Or take them off if you want.

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00:11:39,580 --> 00:11:41,810
And start slogging and slogging

294
00:11:41,810 --> 00:11:43,020
and slogging.

295
00:11:43,540 --> 00:11:44,980
You don't want the world to...

296
00:11:44,980 --> 00:11:45,700
Gotta get...

297
00:11:45,700 --> 00:11:46,620
Eliminate the creak in this

298
00:11:46,620 --> 00:11:46,960
chair.

299
00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,340
It's making the whole setup

300
00:11:48,340 --> 00:11:49,580
feel less luxurious.

301
00:11:49,780 --> 00:11:51,460
But at the same time...

302
00:11:51,460 --> 00:11:52,840
This is Dublin Airport.

303
00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:53,860
As I said before.

304
00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,060
Executive lounge.

305
00:11:55,260 --> 00:11:55,780
Stream room.

306
00:11:55,900 --> 00:11:56,340
So...

307
00:11:56,340 --> 00:11:57,650
I can't really expect them to

308
00:11:57,650 --> 00:11:59,020
have everything that I have in

309
00:11:59,020 --> 00:12:00,220
the cozy confines of my own

310
00:12:00,220 --> 00:12:00,700
place.

311
00:12:01,100 --> 00:12:02,100
Uh...

312
00:12:02,100 --> 00:12:02,740
Uh...

313
00:12:02,740 --> 00:12:04,980
And the radiator turned down.

314
00:12:04,980 --> 00:12:05,720
Yeah, I mean...

315
00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:06,830
They let me turn down the

316
00:12:06,830 --> 00:12:08,180
radiator in here as well.

317
00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:09,240
It's just...

318
00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,560
That's executive life.

319
00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,060
That's executive life.

320
00:12:13,460 --> 00:12:15,720
Thank you very much, Evan Kilban.

321
00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,200
For your tip there.

322
00:12:17,260 --> 00:12:17,980
Working from home.

323
00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,040
With a soon-to-be wife, Konzo.

324
00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,520
Any tips on marriage?

325
00:12:22,860 --> 00:12:24,480
Sorry to...

326
00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:25,440
Yeah, it's great.

327
00:12:25,580 --> 00:12:26,020
It's great.

328
00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,060
It's great to make sure you...

329
00:12:27,060 --> 00:12:27,200
Yeah.

330
00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:28,180
Find the right one.

331
00:12:28,620 --> 00:12:29,580
And, uh...

332
00:12:29,580 --> 00:12:31,120
You know...

333
00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:32,420
Make sure you've...

334
00:12:32,420 --> 00:12:33,600
You pay attention to it.

335
00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:34,500
Because it's maintenance.

336
00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:35,500
You need to maintain the

337
00:12:35,500 --> 00:12:36,280
relationship.

338
00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:37,780
And, uh...

339
00:12:37,780 --> 00:12:38,880
I think maybe, you know...

340
00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:39,240
That's...

341
00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:40,590
That's what I've been told many

342
00:12:40,590 --> 00:12:41,500
a time by Deirdre.

343
00:12:41,580 --> 00:12:42,540
Anyway, I failed.

344
00:12:42,620 --> 00:12:42,920
You know...

345
00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,370
I was too involved with all my

346
00:12:44,370 --> 00:12:45,770
extracurricular business

347
00:12:45,770 --> 00:12:46,620
activities.

348
00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:48,900
And it went by the wayside.

349
00:12:49,020 --> 00:12:49,340
You know...

350
00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:50,680
And then, of course, she

351
00:12:50,680 --> 00:12:52,180
started seeing tickles.

352
00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:53,800
And it was over at that point.

353
00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:55,640
But I'm glad to say...

354
00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:56,960
That that's failed as well.

355
00:12:57,100 --> 00:12:58,340
So...

356
00:12:58,340 --> 00:12:59,600
You know...

357
00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:00,610
There's always that on the

358
00:13:00,610 --> 00:13:01,100
horizon.

359
00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:02,780
But all the best with your

360
00:13:02,780 --> 00:13:03,700
marriage.

361
00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,080
That's not to say that mine...

362
00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,570
Yours is gonna mirror anything

363
00:13:06,570 --> 00:13:07,540
like mine as well.

364
00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:08,660
Gobbles.

365
00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:09,880
Thank you very much for the tip.

366
00:13:10,020 --> 00:13:10,420
Wanty.

367
00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,040
Any thoughts on the blaze in

368
00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:12,920
COP30?

369
00:13:13,100 --> 00:13:13,460
Yeah!

370
00:13:14,020 --> 00:13:15,570
Really, really important strides

371
00:13:15,570 --> 00:13:17,520
being made over there in Brazil.

372
00:13:18,460 --> 00:13:19,420
And, uh...

373
00:13:19,420 --> 00:13:20,590
It was great to see Micheal

374
00:13:20,590 --> 00:13:21,870
Martin mixing it up with Lula

375
00:13:21,870 --> 00:13:22,660
and the boys.

376
00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:24,710
And really laying down the

377
00:13:24,710 --> 00:13:26,770
foundations for what will be a

378
00:13:26,770 --> 00:13:28,960
fantastic set of targets.

379
00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,660
Which we may or may not meet.

380
00:13:30,660 --> 00:13:31,840
But who cares?

381
00:13:32,860 --> 00:13:34,060
The powwow was had.

382
00:13:34,500 --> 00:13:35,660
The cameras were on.

383
00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,660
They did something good.

384
00:13:38,380 --> 00:13:39,560
And let's just see where it

385
00:13:39,560 --> 00:13:40,200
goes.

386
00:13:40,940 --> 00:13:42,820
And thanks very much, Brendan O'Hagan,

387
00:13:42,820 --> 00:13:43,800
for the tip.

388
00:13:44,540 --> 00:13:45,730
Any update on my competency-based

389
00:13:45,730 --> 00:13:47,340
job interview in London?

390
00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:48,380
Oh, you've got an update.

391
00:13:48,460 --> 00:13:48,900
I beg your pardon.

392
00:13:49,060 --> 00:13:50,280
The higher roll passed me in

393
00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:50,720
time.

394
00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,120
I was, uh...

395
00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,290
Your words on blocking the

396
00:13:53,290 --> 00:13:54,500
noise were invaluable.

397
00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:55,760
No problem, buddy.

398
00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:56,700
That's what you gotta do.

399
00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,000
And the same sentiment goes out

400
00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:58,900
to your man there.

401
00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:00,160
Who, uh...

402
00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,040
Unfortunately said that about

403
00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:01,620
the redu...

404
00:14:01,620 --> 00:14:02,080
John.

405
00:14:02,580 --> 00:14:04,320
Yeah, block out the noise, John.

406
00:14:04,660 --> 00:14:05,600
And power through.

407
00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,800
And create your own world.

408
00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:10,320
And own it.

409
00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:11,520
Uh...

410
00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:12,670
Captain Sack, thank you very

411
00:14:12,670 --> 00:14:13,700
much for the tip there.

412
00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:14,440
And Nauru Busan.

413
00:14:14,620 --> 00:14:15,790
And none other than Drew

414
00:14:15,790 --> 00:14:16,480
Houston.

415
00:14:16,620 --> 00:14:18,290
Your interminable silence on

416
00:14:18,290 --> 00:14:19,620
the Dropbox slash McLaren

417
00:14:19,620 --> 00:14:21,100
sponsorship deal has been

418
00:14:21,100 --> 00:14:22,240
telling Connor.

419
00:14:22,740 --> 00:14:23,700
Yeah, I don't want to talk

420
00:14:23,700 --> 00:14:24,180
about it.

421
00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:25,380
Look, I mean, you've seen

422
00:14:25,380 --> 00:14:26,740
earlier on my sentiments.

423
00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:27,950
You know I have a lot of love

424
00:14:27,950 --> 00:14:28,520
for Dropbox.

425
00:14:28,740 --> 00:14:29,220
Um...

426
00:14:29,220 --> 00:14:29,920
What they do.

427
00:14:30,180 --> 00:14:31,160
And how they're doing it.

428
00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,080
There's no one like them.

429
00:14:33,820 --> 00:14:34,340
Uh...

430
00:14:34,340 --> 00:14:36,160
But McLaren, look, it was never...

431
00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,720
It was never my, uh...

432
00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:39,540
My go-to.

433
00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:41,840
Should I say, uh...

434
00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,380
Set up in the F1 world.

435
00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:44,360
Maybe back in the day.

436
00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:45,220
You know.

437
00:14:46,180 --> 00:14:46,860
But, uh...

438
00:14:46,860 --> 00:14:47,580
It's all...

439
00:14:48,660 --> 00:14:49,240
Mercedes.

440
00:14:49,660 --> 00:14:51,260
And, you know, since the Loodog

441
00:14:51,260 --> 00:14:52,640
has gone to Ferrari,

442
00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:53,180
as well.

443
00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:54,160
I mean, I said...

444
00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,740
I said au revoir and Arrivederci,

445
00:14:56,740 --> 00:14:58,100
whatever the Italian is.

446
00:14:58,260 --> 00:14:59,140
But, uh...

447
00:14:59,140 --> 00:15:00,560
You know, I appreciate the...

448
00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,240
The automotive, uh...

449
00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:03,920
Revolution.

450
00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:05,400
In racing.

451
00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:07,150
That Ferrari have heralded

452
00:15:07,150 --> 00:15:09,340
numerous times over the years.

453
00:15:09,460 --> 00:15:11,140
But my heart will always belong.

454
00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:12,560
With the Germans.

455
00:15:13,260 --> 00:15:14,700
And, uh...

456
00:15:14,700 --> 00:15:15,900
You know, that's why I drive

457
00:15:15,900 --> 00:15:16,260
this.

458
00:15:16,900 --> 00:15:17,200
You know.

459
00:15:18,380 --> 00:15:20,140
That car is hilarious, says

460
00:15:20,140 --> 00:15:21,160
Riley.

461
00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:22,560
I mean, I don't think so.

462
00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:24,760
There's zero hilarity involved

463
00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:25,360
in it.

464
00:15:25,420 --> 00:15:26,180
I mean...

465
00:15:26,180 --> 00:15:27,300
That just sounds like someone

466
00:15:27,300 --> 00:15:28,180
who doesn't...

467
00:15:29,180 --> 00:15:29,900
Regularly get behind the wheel

468
00:15:29,900 --> 00:15:31,320
of one of these things.

469
00:15:32,660 --> 00:15:33,220
Um...

470
00:15:33,220 --> 00:15:34,720
But thanks very much for tuning

471
00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:35,060
in.

472
00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:35,920
And, uh...

473
00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:36,720
I hope you're...

474
00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,640
You're doing well there, Riley.

475
00:15:39,060 --> 00:15:40,080
Let's call a spade a spade on

476
00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,800
your absence from the rock room,

477
00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:42,600
says Drew.

478
00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:43,940
I was there this morning.

479
00:15:44,180 --> 00:15:45,580
They just won't let me in.

480
00:15:46,100 --> 00:15:48,120
They just don't know me yet.

481
00:15:48,700 --> 00:15:49,040
Do you know?

482
00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,100
I feel as though once Dropbox

483
00:15:51,100 --> 00:15:53,180
really understand who I am...

484
00:15:53,180 --> 00:15:55,520
Then all bets are off.

485
00:15:56,300 --> 00:15:56,800
My ultimate dream...

486
00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,800
Has to be...

487
00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,800
Going full Phil Collins...

488
00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,570
On that fucking electronic drum

489
00:16:03,570 --> 00:16:04,680
pad in that room.

490
00:16:05,700 --> 00:16:07,000
Preferably while there's a powwow

491
00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,140
meeting going on between some

492
00:16:08,140 --> 00:16:09,320
of the higher-ups...

493
00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,640
On a video link conference.

494
00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,250
And I can maybe underscore some

495
00:16:13,250 --> 00:16:14,720
of the points they're making

496
00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,120
with some snare fills.

497
00:16:16,700 --> 00:16:18,260
Or even, you know, some...

498
00:16:18,260 --> 00:16:18,820
Some...

499
00:16:18,820 --> 00:16:19,600
Some bass kicks.

500
00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,460
Haven't decided yet.

501
00:16:22,540 --> 00:16:22,900
But look...

502
00:16:23,900 --> 00:16:24,370
Dropbox, if you're listening,

503
00:16:24,370 --> 00:16:25,800
if you're watching...

504
00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:26,700
I know you're watching.

505
00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,680
You just don't know me yet.

506
00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:31,630
And I love the arcade cabinet

507
00:16:31,630 --> 00:16:33,900
that you have with the...

508
00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,410
Scum virtual machine emulator

509
00:16:36,410 --> 00:16:38,930
running Mortal Kombat earlier

510
00:16:38,930 --> 00:16:39,460
on.

511
00:16:40,180 --> 00:16:40,980
Fantastic stuff.

512
00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:41,900
Mortal Kombat...

513
00:16:42,900 --> 00:16:45,260
Is a real business world game.

514
00:16:45,540 --> 00:16:45,840
Do you know?

515
00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:46,400
It's...

516
00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:47,780
It's one-on-one.

517
00:16:47,900 --> 00:16:48,860
It's mano a mano.

518
00:16:49,260 --> 00:16:50,180
It's finish him.

519
00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:51,420
You know?

520
00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:52,720
It's your man...

521
00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:53,740
Putting his hand through the

522
00:16:53,740 --> 00:16:54,100
chest.

523
00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:55,000
Pulling out the heart.

524
00:16:55,100 --> 00:16:55,540
And then...

525
00:16:55,540 --> 00:16:56,200
Does he eat it?

526
00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,290
I can't remember what he even

527
00:16:57,290 --> 00:16:57,940
does with it.

528
00:16:58,600 --> 00:16:59,040
But...

529
00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,320
In the business world...

530
00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:02,430
You need to have a strong

531
00:17:02,430 --> 00:17:03,380
finishing move.

532
00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:04,360
Do you know?

533
00:17:04,620 --> 00:17:05,100
And...

534
00:17:05,100 --> 00:17:07,280
That game exemplifies a lot of

535
00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,100
the tenets of...

536
00:17:09,100 --> 00:17:10,100
Of personality...

537
00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,100
Required to really...

538
00:17:12,100 --> 00:17:13,100
Fluctuate...

539
00:17:13,780 --> 00:17:13,960
And...

540
00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:14,100
And...

541
00:17:14,100 --> 00:17:15,100
And capitalize...

542
00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:17,360
In that world.

543
00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,100
But less of the chance...

544
00:17:19,100 --> 00:17:19,820
In the chat now.

545
00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,360
And let's get onto the track.

546
00:17:21,580 --> 00:17:23,600
The Mercedes 845 AMG...

547
00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:24,650
Which Riley was saying was

548
00:17:24,650 --> 00:17:25,260
hilarious.

549
00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,680
Has been carefully designed...

550
00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:28,980
To express a tough and cool

551
00:17:28,980 --> 00:17:29,660
attitude.

552
00:17:29,980 --> 00:17:31,140
So...

553
00:17:31,140 --> 00:17:32,440
Don't know where the hilarity

554
00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:33,380
is there, Riles.

555
00:17:34,340 --> 00:17:36,220
I want one in my garage.

556
00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:37,700
Says Ed Welburn.

557
00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,260
And Ed's a fucking fantastic

558
00:17:39,260 --> 00:17:39,680
man.

559
00:17:39,980 --> 00:17:41,220
Sarah's fucking chiming in as

560
00:17:41,220 --> 00:17:41,700
well.

561
00:17:42,100 --> 00:17:43,140
That was fascinating.

562
00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:43,680
She says.

563
00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:44,880
And Ed...

564
00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:45,600
Don't mention it.

565
00:17:45,860 --> 00:17:47,010
I'd love to talk to you again

566
00:17:47,010 --> 00:17:47,740
sometime.

567
00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:49,380
Until then...

568
00:17:50,380 --> 00:17:50,860
Uh...

569
00:17:50,860 --> 00:17:52,140
Let's open up our menu...

570
00:17:52,140 --> 00:17:53,080
And see what's for dinner.

571
00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:54,480
Uh...

572
00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:55,380
European Championship...

573
00:17:56,380 --> 00:17:58,200
Which unlocks an American track.

574
00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,580
Colorado Springs...

575
00:17:59,580 --> 00:17:59,980
USA.

576
00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,280
I have Ivan Yates ready to go.

577
00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:02,760
If you...

578
00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,260
If you're tuning in...

579
00:18:04,260 --> 00:18:05,270
It's not gonna be a full-on

580
00:18:05,270 --> 00:18:06,260
drive-time attack.

581
00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:07,420
I want to really just look at

582
00:18:07,420 --> 00:18:08,380
some of the...

583
00:18:09,380 --> 00:18:11,380
Finesse and Gravitas...

584
00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:12,960
That he brought to the Oireachtas

585
00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,220
there during the week.

586
00:18:14,460 --> 00:18:15,370
How was your practice run at

587
00:18:15,370 --> 00:18:16,140
Dragon's Tale?

588
00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:16,960
Can't even remember.

589
00:18:17,620 --> 00:18:18,300
I felt alright.

590
00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:18,920
It felt good.

591
00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:19,880
Uh...

592
00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,240
Now's your time to take on...

593
00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,180
European Champions.

594
00:18:23,980 --> 00:18:25,480
Your aim is to finish top three.

595
00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:26,240
Yeah.

596
00:18:26,700 --> 00:18:27,300
That's easy.

597
00:18:27,380 --> 00:18:27,780
I've done it.

598
00:18:27,780 --> 00:18:28,920
Done it a million times.

599
00:18:29,820 --> 00:18:30,780
And we've got a nice...

600
00:18:31,460 --> 00:18:32,460
Intro piece here.

601
00:18:33,060 --> 00:18:33,440
Beamer.

602
00:18:33,940 --> 00:18:34,680
Aston Martin.

603
00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:36,240
Porsche.

604
00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,560
Reno.

605
00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:41,880
Alpha.

606
00:18:50,460 --> 00:18:51,400
Feel it.

607
00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:52,540
Breathe it.

608
00:18:53,100 --> 00:18:53,740
Dream it.

609
00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:57,660
Recharge your soul.

610
00:18:58,620 --> 00:19:00,000
Now is the time...

611
00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,240
To understand...

612
00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,750
The importance of the European

613
00:19:02,750 --> 00:19:03,740
Championships.

614
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,920
Menu book 25.5.5.

615
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,120
And that's some of that.

616
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,400
Very nice bass as well.

617
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,120
It's lounge.

618
00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:40,760
Really groovy stuff.

619
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:43,560
Real cymbal.

620
00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:45,000
Rydage.

621
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:47,560
Honda Jazz.

622
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:55,480
Jazzbox.

623
00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,000
Are we in Europe for this?

624
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,240
Don't know where the track is

625
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,680
for the event.

626
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:18,320
US.

627
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:26,880
The US.

628
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,420
In the world circuits.

629
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:30,320
Look, world circuits.

630
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:31,710
Maybe I turn myself off the

631
00:20:31,710 --> 00:20:33,150
screen here so we can see the

632
00:20:33,150 --> 00:20:34,790
flashing emblem of where we're

633
00:20:34,790 --> 00:20:35,680
meant to be.

634
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:38,880
Oh yeah, European championship.

635
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,720
This is a special event.

636
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,260
You don't even go into the map

637
00:20:44,260 --> 00:20:45,600
of the world for this.

638
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:46,560
You have to select down at the

639
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:47,600
bottom of the screen here.

640
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,200
It's an A-rated event.

641
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,560
Which is pretty scary stuff.

642
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,880
I can still use my yoke in it.

643
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,800
It needs to be a road car.

644
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,160
It needs to be European.

645
00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:58,070
Whether or not I've got the

646
00:20:58,070 --> 00:21:00,410
poke, the prowess, the engine

647
00:21:00,410 --> 00:21:02,870
power, the horsepower to really

648
00:21:02,870 --> 00:21:04,160
dominate it.

649
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,000
Remains to be seen.

650
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,320
But I really like that sound.

651
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,280
Let's get a blast at News Talk.

652
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,040
Go and see what that's saying.

653
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,650
It's been confirmed by the Guinness

654
00:21:21,650 --> 00:21:24,050
World Records that this is the

655
00:21:24,050 --> 00:21:26,270
largest knitted diorama ever

656
00:21:26,270 --> 00:21:27,040
created.

657
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,370
It's drawn recognition from

658
00:21:28,370 --> 00:21:29,280
home and abroad.

659
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,650
The Punisher Simon Harris was

660
00:21:30,650 --> 00:21:31,360
down there.

661
00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:32,990
And there was also delegations

662
00:21:32,990 --> 00:21:34,800
from Japan and Canada to see it.

663
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:35,200
Okay.

664
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,740
So a diorama is like a map with

665
00:21:36,740 --> 00:21:38,640
kind of depth and texture to it.

666
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:39,680
Yeah, exactly.

667
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:40,880
It's a bit more 3D than just

668
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:41,760
your average map.

669
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:42,660
And it seems to be made out of

670
00:21:42,660 --> 00:21:43,120
the world.

671
00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:44,640
So measuring it's 16 square

672
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:45,200
meters.

673
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,110
And it's got landmarks,

674
00:21:47,110 --> 00:21:48,620
mountains and coastlines from

675
00:21:48,620 --> 00:21:49,680
every province.

676
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,040
All made out of wool.

677
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,560
And it was made entirely by the

678
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,480
Carnie Creative Crafters Group.

679
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,370
So this is in the Wicklow

680
00:21:56,370 --> 00:21:57,280
people.

681
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:58,470
Liz Butler from the group said

682
00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:59,610
that when they began the work

683
00:21:59,610 --> 00:22:00,690
in the mouth, they had no

684
00:22:00,690 --> 00:22:01,600
intention of chasing.

685
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,400
We'll knock that off.

686
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:04,960
It doesn't sound.

687
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:05,840
It's not good.

688
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,200
It needs to be hard shoulder.

689
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,480
It needs to be current affairs.

690
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:09,900
It needs to be updates about

691
00:22:09,900 --> 00:22:10,960
what's going on.

692
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:12,890
And then Ciaran Cuddy isn't

693
00:22:12,890 --> 00:22:14,560
even there anymore.

694
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,400
So when it does come time for

695
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,660
drive time or the hard shoulder,

696
00:22:18,660 --> 00:22:20,960
it's just lacking, you know.

697
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,330
And in fairness to Cuddy, he

698
00:22:24,330 --> 00:22:27,960
took the plum job at Liveline,

699
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,760
but it's just, I don't know.

700
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,610
I preferred when he was doing

701
00:22:33,610 --> 00:22:35,540
the news roundup drive time at

702
00:22:35,540 --> 00:22:37,070
the end of the day, to be

703
00:22:37,070 --> 00:22:38,400
honest with you.

704
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,700
I mean, that Liveline thing,

705
00:22:41,700 --> 00:22:43,860
that's a Joe Duffy thing who's

706
00:22:43,860 --> 00:22:44,560
gone.

707
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,780
So, I mean, I don't know why

708
00:22:46,780 --> 00:22:48,480
they kept it going.

709
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:49,920
Or if they did, what they got

710
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,510
with Cuddy, it's like they've

711
00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:52,990
got him, they're playing him

712
00:22:52,990 --> 00:22:54,640
out of position, you know.

713
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,360
He should be on at five o'clock.

714
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,550
Not during the daytime with

715
00:22:59,550 --> 00:23:00,400
that stuff.

716
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,200
He's good at it.

717
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,360
Don't get me wrong, but I mean,

718
00:23:02,360 --> 00:23:03,360
he's better than that.

719
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,920
And I for one miss Cuddy.

720
00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:10,400
On the hard shoulder.

721
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,470
And I don't know who they've

722
00:23:12,470 --> 00:23:13,920
got going on now.

723
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,200
I haven't listened to it.

724
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:20,090
I've got to put the, uh, your

725
00:23:20,090 --> 00:23:24,900
messages on the screen here in

726
00:23:24,900 --> 00:23:29,060
front of me so I can see them

727
00:23:29,060 --> 00:23:32,400
when I'm racing.

728
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:46,320
Backhurst.

729
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,390
Backhurst comes, when Backhurst

730
00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:50,640
comes knocking, he gets his man.

731
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,600
That's the thing.

732
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,320
It's always been the way.

733
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,400
Don't underestimate the Backhurst.

734
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:01,640
Back-to-back wins is what we're

735
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,120
after here.

736
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,940
And some really nice machines

737
00:24:06,940 --> 00:24:08,840
in the warm-up laps buzzing

738
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,720
around the track there.

739
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:13,640
I'm even thinking some of them

740
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,800
might look a little bit classier

741
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,160
than mine.

742
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:18,880
Just a little bit.

743
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,100
None of them seem to be embossed

744
00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:23,600
with multiple sponsors though,

745
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,040
which just goes to show that

746
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,860
they don't really have the pull

747
00:24:26,860 --> 00:24:28,880
that we have here on Drive Time.

748
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:30,920
That little thing's going down,

749
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,240
whatever that is.

750
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,280
Daihatsu, is it?

751
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:33,920
And there we go.

752
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:34,480
Look at me.

753
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:36,960
Absolutely creaming the

754
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,560
competition on that slipstream.

755
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,120
Petroheads Racing.

756
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,680
Important sponsors of the event.

757
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,040
Michelin.

758
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,720
Rob Rex Bakery.

759
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:51,920
And all of the above.

760
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,620
It's a great, great day to be

761
00:24:53,620 --> 00:24:54,880
racing for gold here.

762
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,480
Before an Ivan Yates breakdown.

763
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,520
Steakhouse Apple.

764
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:03,600
Apple.

765
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,680
And Nicola Pizza.

766
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,440
Who do delivery.

767
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,360
They don't even use Deliveroo.

768
00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:10,800
They use their own drivers.

769
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,450
So definitely use them if you

770
00:25:13,450 --> 00:25:14,160
can.

771
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,280
I'm not sure there are any

772
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,700
branches or outlets in Ireland

773
00:25:16,700 --> 00:25:17,520
at the moment.

774
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:18,560
But they're expanding.

775
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,560
In a big, big way.

776
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:21,640
They're one to watch for the

777
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,560
next 10 years.

778
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,080
Nicola Pizza.

779
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:29,230
They do a great, great pizza

780
00:25:29,230 --> 00:25:30,720
oven.

781
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,120
It's ceramic.

782
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:35,120
It's fantastic.

783
00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:36,330
And it's right out in front of

784
00:25:36,330 --> 00:25:37,540
you as well when you're in the

785
00:25:37,540 --> 00:25:38,320
restaurant.

786
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,470
You can see your pizza being

787
00:25:39,470 --> 00:25:39,840
made.

788
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,280
An unbelievable base.

789
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,680
Which is where every pizza

790
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,280
begins.

791
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,880
And then the toppings are

792
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:47,600
insane.

793
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,560
real gourmand stuff.

794
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,640
Real gourmand stuff.

795
00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:56,000
Michelin.

796
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:56,880
The food reviewer.

797
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:57,980
What have they to do with

798
00:25:57,980 --> 00:25:58,480
racing?

799
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,400
Well, they did do the Michelin...

800
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,040
Guide.

801
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,090
I think because they were to do

802
00:26:06,090 --> 00:26:07,280
with racing first.

803
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,420
They understood that there were

804
00:26:09,420 --> 00:26:11,760
people who enjoyed food so much.

805
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:14,070
So much so that they were going

806
00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:16,300
to make a book which detailed

807
00:26:16,300 --> 00:26:18,560
some of the finest eateries

808
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,520
around the continent.

809
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,010
And it just grew from there,

810
00:26:21,010 --> 00:26:21,680
you know.

811
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:23,540
It's a bit confusing to the

812
00:26:23,540 --> 00:26:25,820
uninitiated to see the Michelin

813
00:26:25,820 --> 00:26:26,160
man.

814
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,320
Dishing out awards for food,

815
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:28,880
but.

816
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,200
He didn't get that big just by

817
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,960
watching racing.

818
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:34,400
The Michelin man.

819
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,710
I used to confuse him with the

820
00:26:35,710 --> 00:26:37,360
marshmallow man from Ghostbusters

821
00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:38,560
when I was a kid, but.

822
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:40,320
They're they're two separate

823
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,760
entities, you know.

824
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,000
Thank you very much there.

825
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,670
Yeats contemplates the new path

826
00:26:45,670 --> 00:26:46,880
to power theme tune.

827
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,500
Post Yeatser is an up-tempo

828
00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:50,400
contemporary jazz number.

829
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,120
Very much like the GT menu

830
00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:52,800
music.

831
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,170
Are you also advising Matt

832
00:26:54,170 --> 00:26:55,280
Cooper, Connor?

833
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,040
Do you know what?

834
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:57,920
I haven't heard it.

835
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,360
I need to get that on the.

836
00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:01,020
If someone's got a link to that

837
00:27:01,020 --> 00:27:02,320
just isolated music.

838
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,880
That I can put in there.

839
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:05,920
I want to give that a listen.

840
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:07,680
I didn't even know.

841
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:09,730
He's still continuing path to

842
00:27:09,730 --> 00:27:11,600
power without Yeatser.

843
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,800
I just think that's disgusting.

844
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,560
You know, I think you need to.

845
00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:16,490
Need to understand that he was

846
00:27:16,490 --> 00:27:18,270
an important part that made

847
00:27:18,270 --> 00:27:20,160
that program what it was.

848
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,720
I don't know who they're going

849
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,190
to have as a co-host on that,

850
00:27:23,190 --> 00:27:23,920
you know.

851
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,350
Thank you very much, Anonymous

852
00:27:26,350 --> 00:27:27,120
there.

853
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:28,240
Great to see you.

854
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,830
Will you be carving to Turkey

855
00:27:29,830 --> 00:27:31,550
for your Christmas dinner this

856
00:27:31,550 --> 00:27:32,080
year?

857
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,600
I haven't thought about it, man.

858
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,690
Given the influenza situation

859
00:27:35,690 --> 00:27:37,840
at the Cabin-Mannan border.

860
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,930
Well, I mean, I do source my fowl

861
00:27:40,930 --> 00:27:43,470
from France, where I get my

862
00:27:43,470 --> 00:27:44,560
grapes.

863
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,640
So that's not going to be an

864
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:47,440
issue.

865
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:48,240
But I do.

866
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,330
My heart goes out to everyone

867
00:27:50,330 --> 00:27:52,690
who, you know, unfortunately

868
00:27:52,690 --> 00:27:55,040
finds themselves having to buy

869
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,190
their chicken from the

870
00:27:56,190 --> 00:27:58,000
supermarket and whatnot.

871
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,680
But I mean, if you can find

872
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,750
yourself a decent enough outlet

873
00:28:01,750 --> 00:28:03,770
that has a veritable selection

874
00:28:03,770 --> 00:28:05,770
of world food, then you're not

875
00:28:05,770 --> 00:28:07,750
going to be hungry on Christmas

876
00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:08,400
Day.

877
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,520
But all the best with that.

878
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,920
No farm, no fowl.

879
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:16,370
A French Christmas goose is

880
00:28:16,370 --> 00:28:19,110
always a welcome addition at my

881
00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:21,200
house at Christmas.

882
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,780
But we're still a month, over a

883
00:28:22,780 --> 00:28:24,240
month away from that yet.

884
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,760
Things may change, you know.

885
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,180
And we haven't really seen, it's

886
00:28:29,180 --> 00:28:32,130
not been a massive kick to the

887
00:28:32,130 --> 00:28:34,480
industries as yet.

888
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,240
But they are saying, be warned,

889
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:36,880
be wary.

890
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:38,880
It might be tough.

891
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,240
It might be tough.

892
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,680
Prices might go up as well.

893
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,790
But I mean, I was always paying

894
00:28:43,790 --> 00:28:45,660
more for my Turkey anyway,

895
00:28:45,660 --> 00:28:47,520
because it has to be shipped

896
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:48,800
over from France.

897
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:50,960
On pain of death.

898
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:53,260
Anyway, less about that and

899
00:28:53,260 --> 00:28:55,680
more about this before we end.

900
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:56,850
We're heading to Yatesville,

901
00:28:56,850 --> 00:28:57,440
Tennessee.

902
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:00,800
And that's some epic music to

903
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,240
intro us.

904
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:04,140
This is the European

905
00:29:04,140 --> 00:29:05,760
Championship.

906
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,350
This isn't any, this isn't a

907
00:29:07,350 --> 00:29:08,480
walk in the park.

908
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:08,880
This isn't...

909
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,160
Tea time and scones at Uncle

910
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,360
Ben's.

911
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,550
Gonna fucking go right off the

912
00:29:17,550 --> 00:29:18,160
track here.

913
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,290
I just need to calibrate my

914
00:29:20,290 --> 00:29:21,200
senses.

915
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,960
Okay, we're in, we're in third.

916
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,560
We're in, we're in fifth.

917
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:25,760
We need to drop down to third.

918
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:26,720
Straight away.

919
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:27,760
Straight off the bat.

920
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:28,320
Get ready.

921
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:28,880
Paddles.

922
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:40,560
Fucking hell.

923
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:40,960
Fuck.

924
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,320
Well, there we go.

925
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,080
Being fishtailed.

926
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,480
That was some real nasty

927
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,040
behavior from your man.

928
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,460
But I mean, I didn't have the

929
00:29:48,460 --> 00:29:49,200
best start.

930
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,200
I didn't have the best start.

931
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,080
Being before grapes.

932
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:52,800
Might not.

933
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,400
Might need to try Forza.

934
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,060
I think that's not available on

935
00:29:56,060 --> 00:29:57,200
the PlayStation.

936
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,250
I'm pretty much Gran Turismo

937
00:29:59,250 --> 00:30:00,240
till I die.

938
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,000
I think Francis might have

939
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,240
tried the Forza Horizon back in

940
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,440
the day.

941
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,510
And it was, it did look

942
00:30:08,510 --> 00:30:09,280
fantastic.

943
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,500
Buzzing around Edinburgh and

944
00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:11,280
the outskirts.

945
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,080
They'd replicated Scotland.

946
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,120
Aubergue as Dodgy.

947
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,560
Aubergue de Jeunesse.

948
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:25,520
Aubergue.

949
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:28,560
That's green as well.

950
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:33,100
You know, can they replicate

951
00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:36,240
the Dublin docks?

952
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,680
I mean, it would be fantastic.

953
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,210
It'd be nothing better than

954
00:30:39,210 --> 00:30:40,820
being able to buzz around the

955
00:30:40,820 --> 00:30:41,840
entire aisle.

956
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:43,840
Some of the roads.

957
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,590
Some of the driving in this

958
00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:47,330
country can be absolutely

959
00:30:47,330 --> 00:30:48,480
outstanding.

960
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,420
Especially out west on the Wild

961
00:30:50,420 --> 00:30:51,520
Atlantic Way.

962
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,610
Which I believe Top Gear said

963
00:30:53,610 --> 00:30:54,720
was one of the best roads to

964
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,200
drive.

965
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,820
I think the stretch between Clifton

966
00:30:57,820 --> 00:30:59,120
and Westport.

967
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:03,760
Also taken in Clue Bay.

968
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,320
And driving past them.

969
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,520
The monolithic Croke Patrick.

970
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:14,800
Fucking hell.

971
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,460
I don't mind open world

972
00:31:18,460 --> 00:31:22,000
simulation at all.

973
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,080
It's great.

974
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,040
It has its time.

975
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,040
It has its place in the Pantheon.

976
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,090
But there's nothing like a

977
00:31:29,090 --> 00:31:30,160
fantastic track.

978
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,210
To really master and dominate,

979
00:31:33,210 --> 00:31:34,400
you know.

980
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,600
And let's not forget.

981
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,390
The domination still needs to

982
00:31:37,390 --> 00:31:38,640
occur in Germany.

983
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,960
The Nürburgring time trials.

984
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:42,720
A full restart?

985
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:43,440
I think so.

986
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,290
Get off your phone while

987
00:31:45,290 --> 00:31:46,240
driving.

988
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,230
Technically it is being on your

989
00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:48,880
phone.

990
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:49,940
Reading the messages as well

991
00:31:49,940 --> 00:31:51,040
which are coming through.

992
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,040
It's Friday.

993
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:54,640
Time to head out to your local

994
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,040
coffee shop for a bean and

995
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:56,640
skull.

996
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:01,920
I'm not sure I've driven this

997
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,800
flavor of track before.

998
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,600
I think I've been here.

999
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,610
I just haven't done this

1000
00:32:09,610 --> 00:32:11,280
particular one.

1001
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,520
Usually there's like seven

1002
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:13,940
different variations on every

1003
00:32:13,940 --> 00:32:14,640
track here.

1004
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,360
I could be wrong though.

1005
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:22,240
I might have done it in a

1006
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,720
different yoke.

1007
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,970
I think I might have driven it

1008
00:32:27,970 --> 00:32:31,840
in a Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 3.

1009
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,800
But not in my own beast here

1010
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,880
which is making me

1011
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:38,800
a little bit rusty on the

1012
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,880
corners and the turns.

1013
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,750
It's the anticipation necessary

1014
00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:45,900
in order to not fly off the

1015
00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:46,880
handle.

1016
00:32:46,880 --> 00:33:08,360
Lovely stuff. Not great, could

1017
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,520
do better.

1018
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,120
I try to replicate my Honda in

1019
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,720
real life in this game, but I

1020
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,390
need the engine swaps for it to

1021
00:33:16,390 --> 00:33:17,980
compete against the big boys.

1022
00:33:17,980 --> 00:33:22,320
What are you driving, Narubu?

1023
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:27,240
Accord? Prelude? Honda Jazz? I

1024
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,950
mean, there's no end to what

1025
00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:35,110
you can do with the Honda Jazz.

1026
00:33:35,110 --> 00:33:39,200
That's what I've been told.

1027
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:49,600
A Nissan Juke.

1028
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,520
It's a 1991 EF hatch. It's a

1029
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,450
true beauty. Japanese

1030
00:34:00,450 --> 00:34:02,880
reliability at its finest.

1031
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:10,880
That's lovely.

1032
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,180
And I wonder there, somebody

1033
00:34:19,180 --> 00:34:21,000
was telling me about the Jazz

1034
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,590
intro to the Path to Power

1035
00:34:22,590 --> 00:34:24,410
podcast, which has changed

1036
00:34:24,410 --> 00:34:26,360
because once Yeats has left the

1037
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,490
scene, the building, they need

1038
00:34:28,490 --> 00:34:30,480
to rebrand it, I suppose.

1039
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,770
And I wonder what that sounds

1040
00:34:34,770 --> 00:34:38,430
like. And did Cooper address

1041
00:34:38,430 --> 00:34:42,380
everything? Did he address the

1042
00:34:42,380 --> 00:34:45,760
scenario on the program?

1043
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,040
That'd be interesting to hear

1044
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,000
what his take on it was.

1045
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,160
Personally, I think that he

1046
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,010
knew well what was going on

1047
00:34:54,010 --> 00:34:57,840
with the Yatzer. He just got rumbled,

1048
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,680
found out, and then had to

1049
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:01,760
split.

1050
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:14,550
Eddie Hobbs' A Clock Remix by

1051
00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:23,130
Bunhauser. I tell you, oh, this

1052
00:35:23,130 --> 00:35:26,420
is that corner again. The Eddie

1053
00:35:26,420 --> 00:35:28,160
Hobbs...

1054
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,630
Eddie Hobbs... What's his

1055
00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:32,470
podcast called? The Counter...

1056
00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:34,110
Counterpoints. I think that

1057
00:35:34,110 --> 00:35:35,120
even...

1058
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,270
That could... That could be...

1059
00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:38,880
It could be his year this year.

1060
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,160
With Path to Power...

1061
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,300
Waning in popularity inevitably.

1062
00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:46,960
With... From Ivan's departure.

1063
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,600
This is where Hobbs needs to up

1064
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,870
his game. And maybe, just maybe,

1065
00:35:52,870 --> 00:35:54,320
even...

1066
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,320
Enlist a brand new co-host as

1067
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,810
well. I'm not saying the HobbsmeisterGeneral.ie

1068
00:36:00,810 --> 00:36:02,480
doesn't have...

1069
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,480
The panache. The charm. The

1070
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,250
charisma. The likability

1071
00:36:06,250 --> 00:36:07,840
necessary to...

1072
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,560
Herald... A behemoth of a pod.

1073
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:12,420
But I just feel as though he

1074
00:36:12,420 --> 00:36:14,530
needs someone to bounce off,

1075
00:36:14,530 --> 00:36:15,440
you know?

1076
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,400
He does have some great guests.

1077
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,150
He had Neil Oliver on there.

1078
00:36:19,150 --> 00:36:20,910
Over the summer. It was just

1079
00:36:20,910 --> 00:36:22,900
like a dream, you know? When I

1080
00:36:22,900 --> 00:36:25,320
saw that update in my podcast

1081
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,160
inbox.

1082
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,240
Hobbs Cross Oliver. It's like...

1083
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,830
What more do you want, you know?

1084
00:36:32,830 --> 00:36:34,440
And I've listened to it 56

1085
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,900
times. Since it was released in

1086
00:36:36,900 --> 00:36:37,520
July.

1087
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,700
And I put it on on a night to

1088
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:42,440
fall asleep to as well. And let

1089
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,680
some of the...

1090
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,310
Philosophical points and

1091
00:36:45,310 --> 00:36:46,960
counterpoints...

1092
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,020
Just... Seeg into my soul and

1093
00:36:50,020 --> 00:36:51,040
conscience.

1094
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,040
I love it.

1095
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,020
He... He needs another Eason's

1096
00:36:57,020 --> 00:36:59,590
book signing. I think that's...

1097
00:36:59,590 --> 00:37:01,040
Yates is it? But the thing is...

1098
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,080
This has done Yates a world of

1099
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,040
good.

1100
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,170
He'll... He'll... He'll... He'll...

1101
00:37:09,170 --> 00:37:10,400
He'll... Not only bounce back...

1102
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,400
He'll crush the competition.

1103
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,140
If anything, this has put wind

1104
00:37:18,140 --> 00:37:19,760
in his sails, I imagine.

1105
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:21,320
He doesn't like... Says he

1106
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,820
doesn't like being in the news,

1107
00:37:22,820 --> 00:37:24,130
but he loves it. And Hobbs

1108
00:37:24,130 --> 00:37:25,040
would kill...

1109
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:27,970
To get a... A sniff of the

1110
00:37:27,970 --> 00:37:30,930
notoriety... That Yates has had

1111
00:37:30,930 --> 00:37:32,240
over the last few weeks.

1112
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:34,960
Not happy with second, but we'll...

1113
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:35,600
We'll take it.

1114
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:37,540
And the music is fitting as

1115
00:37:37,540 --> 00:37:40,720
well... For a titanic struggle.

1116
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:45,380
John Giles and Hobbs would be a

1117
00:37:45,380 --> 00:37:49,760
fantastic combination.

1118
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,040
It really would. And, uh...

1119
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,200
You know, it's...

1120
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:55,280
It's...

1121
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,040
A pain in the arse...

1122
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,800
To know that, uh...

1123
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,410
Dunphy's podcast is not... Is

1124
00:38:00,410 --> 00:38:01,360
no longer happening.

1125
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,040
He did have some great stuff to

1126
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:03,480
say.

1127
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:04,800
Uh...

1128
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,400
I think maybe...

1129
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,080
We could see Cooper...

1130
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,600
Poaching Stanage...

1131
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,760
In the not too distant future.

1132
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,040
Maybe that's already happened.

1133
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:15,520
Um...

1134
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,140
Because Stanage has a lot to

1135
00:38:17,140 --> 00:38:17,600
say.

1136
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,600
We heard him on News Talk there...

1137
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,800
Serendipitously a few weeks ago.

1138
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:26,720
But I think maybe if Hobbs can...

1139
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:27,820
But I don't think Hobbs would

1140
00:38:27,820 --> 00:38:29,120
mix it up with Stanage...

1141
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:29,680
Because they would...

1142
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,000
You know...

1143
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,600
They'd go against each other...

1144
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,520
In rationale...

1145
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:35,680
Philosophy and reasoning.

1146
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,040
Much like Holly Winter...

1147
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:39,600
Uh...

1148
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,120
Went against Grant Thornton...

1149
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,440
But came out swinging...

1150
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:43,960
And took them...

1151
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,150
Took them for every penny they

1152
00:38:45,150 --> 00:38:45,460
had.

1153
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:46,560
Thank you very much, Holly.

1154
00:38:46,620 --> 00:38:47,600
I hope you're getting on well.

1155
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,560
Grant Reesmo...

1156
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:50,940
Was my dad's favorite game.

1157
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:51,870
Thanks for the drive time,

1158
00:38:51,870 --> 00:38:52,280
Connor.

1159
00:38:52,380 --> 00:38:52,880
No problem.

1160
00:38:53,300 --> 00:38:53,960
Thanks for the tip.

1161
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,440
And, uh...

1162
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,420
Chocolate Starfish.

1163
00:38:56,460 --> 00:38:57,100
Thank you very much.

1164
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,400
If the Hobbs Meister...

1165
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,450
Was to touch base with you,

1166
00:38:59,450 --> 00:39:00,200
Consol...

1167
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,720
Would you consider a collab?

1168
00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:04,000
I could see great things...

1169
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,260
Springing from such a meeting.

1170
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,120
Of course.

1171
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,240
Of course it would.

1172
00:39:10,340 --> 00:39:10,620
Uh...

1173
00:39:10,620 --> 00:39:11,840
But I meet him regularly.

1174
00:39:12,460 --> 00:39:13,180
So it...

1175
00:39:13,180 --> 00:39:14,800
It wouldn't be news to him...

1176
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:15,760
Or news to me.

1177
00:39:16,460 --> 00:39:17,180
Um...

1178
00:39:17,180 --> 00:39:19,180
But I think possibly...

1179
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,420
What Hobbs needs to look at...

1180
00:39:21,420 --> 00:39:22,180
Is...

1181
00:39:22,180 --> 00:39:23,640
Maybe courting some of those

1182
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:24,600
guests...

1183
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:25,380
That...

1184
00:39:25,380 --> 00:39:26,240
Don't agree with him.

1185
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,080
Because he has too many that do.

1186
00:39:28,580 --> 00:39:29,180
And that was the magic...

1187
00:39:30,020 --> 00:39:31,560
Of Path to Power as well.

1188
00:39:31,660 --> 00:39:32,620
You had...

1189
00:39:32,620 --> 00:39:34,180
The Yates Bomb...

1190
00:39:34,180 --> 00:39:35,480
Who could...

1191
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,880
Effectively parry...

1192
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:37,940
And fight back...

1193
00:39:39,020 --> 00:39:39,420
Cooper.

1194
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:41,380
And, uh...

1195
00:39:41,380 --> 00:39:42,740
That was the secret sauce.

1196
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:43,600
That was the magic.

1197
00:39:43,780 --> 00:39:44,620
That was where the...

1198
00:39:44,620 --> 00:39:46,260
The magic happened on that pod.

1199
00:39:47,020 --> 00:39:47,580
And, uh...

1200
00:39:47,580 --> 00:39:48,500
It's hard to see where it's

1201
00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:49,420
gonna come from now.

1202
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,300
I don't know who he's got.

1203
00:39:50,380 --> 00:39:51,340
So the question was...

1204
00:39:51,340 --> 00:39:52,320
Does he have a co-host?

1205
00:39:52,420 --> 00:39:53,480
I don't believe...

1206
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:53,700
Uh...

1207
00:39:53,700 --> 00:39:54,760
I got an answer there.

1208
00:39:55,140 --> 00:39:55,900
Does he have...

1209
00:39:55,900 --> 00:39:57,540
Does Cooper have a new co-host...

1210
00:39:57,540 --> 00:39:58,280
On Path to Power?

1211
00:39:58,500 --> 00:39:59,860
I just didn't even know...

1212
00:39:59,860 --> 00:40:00,820
He continued...

1213
00:40:00,820 --> 00:40:01,500
Because I'm...

1214
00:40:01,500 --> 00:40:02,440
Actually sickened...

1215
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,040
That he has.

1216
00:40:03,220 --> 00:40:03,560
You know...

1217
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,260
Ivan Yates' actual book.

1218
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:07,620
It's called...

1219
00:40:07,620 --> 00:40:08,340
The Game of Life.

1220
00:40:08,420 --> 00:40:09,400
It's out next autumn.

1221
00:40:10,100 --> 00:40:11,470
Konzo to read the audiobook

1222
00:40:11,470 --> 00:40:12,080
version.

1223
00:40:13,740 --> 00:40:14,620
If he'll let me...

1224
00:40:14,620 --> 00:40:15,180
I will, yeah.

1225
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:17,940
If he'll let me.

1226
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,520
Or if he doesn't...

1227
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:22,420
I'll just do it anyway.

1228
00:40:23,460 --> 00:40:23,780
Do you know?

1229
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:26,680
Narubu San...

1230
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:27,540
Thank you very much...

1231
00:40:27,540 --> 00:40:28,240
There for the tip.

1232
00:40:28,940 --> 00:40:29,300
And...

1233
00:40:29,300 --> 00:40:30,040
And still...

1234
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:30,980
It's almost one o'clock.

1235
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,310
And still nobody has the

1236
00:40:32,310 --> 00:40:33,680
information...

1237
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,320
Vis-a-vis the co-host...

1238
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:37,500
On Path to Power.

1239
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:38,620
Cooper has a little sock puppet

1240
00:40:38,620 --> 00:40:39,320
called...

1241
00:40:39,900 --> 00:40:40,900
Okay, now...

1242
00:40:41,900 --> 00:40:45,200
Let's get on to the next race.

1243
00:40:45,460 --> 00:40:46,450
I think there might be three in

1244
00:40:46,450 --> 00:40:47,100
the series.

1245
00:40:52,740 --> 00:40:54,340
It's almost six o'clock.

1246
00:40:55,060 --> 00:40:57,240
Guest hosts every week now.

1247
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,590
Oh, he's doing one of those, is

1248
00:40:58,590 --> 00:40:58,860
he?

1249
00:41:01,240 --> 00:41:01,680
Mortifying.

1250
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:03,440
Mortifying.

1251
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:05,720
I mean, I suppose...

1252
00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:07,090
He had to do something until he

1253
00:41:07,090 --> 00:41:08,900
found a promo fixture, but...

1254
00:41:08,900 --> 00:41:11,900
I suppose you can't...

1255
00:41:11,900 --> 00:41:13,390
You can't replace gold like

1256
00:41:13,390 --> 00:41:13,880
that.

1257
00:41:16,380 --> 00:41:17,980
And you co-host every week.

1258
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:19,210
I mean, it's just the flow is

1259
00:41:19,210 --> 00:41:20,520
taken out of it, you know?

1260
00:41:21,580 --> 00:41:22,680
The rapport isn't going to be

1261
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:23,440
there.

1262
00:41:25,660 --> 00:41:27,020
Listenership might go down.

1263
00:41:30,020 --> 00:41:31,710
cast will be asking questions

1264
00:41:31,710 --> 00:41:35,150
or whoever it is that hosts it

1265
00:41:35,150 --> 00:41:37,760
you know co-hosts is a clock

1266
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,200
almost at six o'clock every

1267
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,320
episode there's a rotating co-host

1268
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,620
they're both rotating in

1269
00:41:45,620 --> 00:41:47,310
literal in a literal sense

1270
00:41:47,310 --> 00:41:49,100
which harms audio quality and

1271
00:41:49,100 --> 00:41:49,860
narrative

1272
00:41:49,860 --> 00:41:52,500
okay let's just click that and

1273
00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:54,410
go through to the next

1274
00:41:54,410 --> 00:41:57,160
situation i'm gonna listen to

1275
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,330
bath power after all this

1276
00:41:59,330 --> 00:42:01,690
anyway just to give myself a

1277
00:42:01,690 --> 00:42:03,950
bit of awareness on us and i

1278
00:42:03,950 --> 00:42:04,820
want to be

1279
00:42:04,820 --> 00:42:06,800
able to dispatch my take at

1280
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,160
pace the next time we reconvene

1281
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:14,760
that's some nice rewards right

1282
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,200
there and

1283
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,810
we're second in the

1284
00:42:17,810 --> 00:42:20,230
championship do you have the

1285
00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:23,130
news talk logo on your car's livery

1286
00:42:23,130 --> 00:42:24,360
it's on there

1287
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,290
it's on the front right there

1288
00:42:26,290 --> 00:42:28,420
look just underneath the front

1289
00:42:28,420 --> 00:42:28,880
right

1290
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,020
head headlight there

1291
00:42:33,020 --> 00:42:35,360
but we're looking for more

1292
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,010
sponsors we're actually looking

1293
00:42:38,010 --> 00:42:40,460
for more sponsors in it and if

1294
00:42:40,460 --> 00:42:41,320
anyone's

1295
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,660
interested we can get you rigged

1296
00:42:43,660 --> 00:42:45,480
up and i can get some great

1297
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,680
great photography done on it as

1298
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:48,100
well

1299
00:42:48,100 --> 00:42:49,720
i'll really hone in on those

1300
00:42:49,720 --> 00:42:51,670
details obviously you want race

1301
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:53,750
wins that's how we that's how

1302
00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:55,240
we attract the big name

1303
00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:55,760
investors

1304
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:01,850
Um, but yeah, it's an open door

1305
00:43:01,850 --> 00:43:04,790
at the moment. As you can see

1306
00:43:04,790 --> 00:43:06,560
there, we've got a free, a real

1307
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,370
nice bit of real estate on the

1308
00:43:09,370 --> 00:43:11,980
front windscreen top.

1309
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,730
So your business name could go

1310
00:43:15,730 --> 00:43:17,970
there. We've got something that

1311
00:43:17,970 --> 00:43:19,500
could go on top of the car

1312
00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:21,440
itself as well for the top down

1313
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,470
view. Some nice aerial shots

1314
00:43:23,470 --> 00:43:25,380
there and under the front left

1315
00:43:25,380 --> 00:43:27,310
head, headlight, we can get

1316
00:43:27,310 --> 00:43:29,240
something going as well. So

1317
00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:31,090
whatever you, whatever you

1318
00:43:31,090 --> 00:43:33,520
think yourself, let's do it.

1319
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,760
How much for below the front

1320
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,560
left light? It's up in the air.

1321
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,250
It's up in the air. Just let's,

1322
00:43:41,250 --> 00:43:44,070
I'm waiting for the first offer.

1323
00:43:44,070 --> 00:43:46,570
And we'll, we can, we can take

1324
00:43:46,570 --> 00:43:49,080
it from there. I don't like to

1325
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,610
really open the kimono first,

1326
00:43:51,610 --> 00:43:53,830
you know, it's a tendering

1327
00:43:53,830 --> 00:43:55,300
process.

1328
00:43:57,620 --> 00:43:59,100
It's a tendering process.

1329
00:44:01,100 --> 00:44:01,350
Onto the next race. Second

1330
00:44:01,350 --> 00:44:03,610
place in the championship. I

1331
00:44:03,610 --> 00:44:05,860
think a podium finish overall

1332
00:44:05,860 --> 00:44:07,320
is what we need.

1333
00:44:08,100 --> 00:44:11,090
Uh, Monza. The home of Italian

1334
00:44:11,090 --> 00:44:14,790
motorsport. Some beautiful long

1335
00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:18,170
straights. Powering into some

1336
00:44:18,170 --> 00:44:21,000
frightening chicanery.

1337
00:44:22,780 --> 00:44:24,620
Maybe expect to restart. Cause

1338
00:44:24,620 --> 00:44:26,480
I'm a little bit rusty. I mean,

1339
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:27,870
people say it's one of the

1340
00:44:27,870 --> 00:44:29,480
easiest tracks to race.

1341
00:44:30,580 --> 00:44:32,320
Not on my watch. Not on my

1342
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,330
watch. It's actually quite

1343
00:44:34,330 --> 00:44:35,970
demanding, especially if you're

1344
00:44:35,970 --> 00:44:36,860
behind a beast.

1345
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:38,690
Get behind the wheel of a beast

1346
00:44:38,690 --> 00:44:40,750
and anything, everything turns

1347
00:44:40,750 --> 00:44:41,720
on its head.

1348
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,050
Is there a crypto sponsor yet?

1349
00:44:44,050 --> 00:44:46,540
Which is a real booming market.

1350
00:44:46,540 --> 00:44:48,310
Not yet. Not yet. We're still

1351
00:44:48,310 --> 00:44:49,760
looking for something.

1352
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,830
A booming question mark. It's

1353
00:44:53,830 --> 00:44:56,160
on the decline.

1354
00:44:57,020 --> 00:44:58,030
So, uh, you know, a lot of

1355
00:44:58,030 --> 00:45:00,020
people saying that crypto is

1356
00:45:00,020 --> 00:45:00,720
dead.

1357
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:02,750
I just, you know, again, it's

1358
00:45:02,750 --> 00:45:03,860
like Dropbox.

1359
00:45:04,460 --> 00:45:05,860
They just don't know me yet.

1360
00:45:05,940 --> 00:45:07,410
Look at those planes with the

1361
00:45:07,410 --> 00:45:08,960
Italian flag over Monza.

1362
00:45:09,340 --> 00:45:10,850
Absolutely extraordinary

1363
00:45:10,850 --> 00:45:13,020
beginning to this race here.

1364
00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:15,290
With the Italian flag in smoke

1365
00:45:15,290 --> 00:45:16,340
in the air.

1366
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,290
Absolutely beautiful. I didn't

1367
00:45:18,290 --> 00:45:19,440
know that happened.

1368
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:21,980
Didn't know. When have they

1369
00:45:21,980 --> 00:45:23,200
ever done that? They've never

1370
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:23,700
done that.

1371
00:45:27,060 --> 00:45:28,060
Fucking love that.

1372
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:29,210
Is that just a European

1373
00:45:29,210 --> 00:45:30,480
championship thing?

1374
00:45:33,140 --> 00:45:34,900
The Italian Air Force.

1375
00:45:37,340 --> 00:45:39,110
That's a special edition just

1376
00:45:39,110 --> 00:45:39,700
for me.

1377
00:45:40,580 --> 00:45:40,980
Fuck.

1378
00:45:41,260 --> 00:45:42,500
And that's the, uh, that's the

1379
00:45:42,500 --> 00:45:43,640
green flag coming out.

1380
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,000
I've cut the corner there.

1381
00:45:45,820 --> 00:45:47,300
Fuck you. Get out of my way.

1382
00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:49,340
That wasn't cheating.

1383
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,120
That was just a bit of, uh, I

1384
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,450
was, you know, I was distracted

1385
00:45:53,450 --> 00:45:54,820
so much by the planes.

1386
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:55,880
I don't think it's a, it looked

1387
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:56,440
beautiful.

1388
00:45:56,580 --> 00:45:57,220
It really did.

1389
00:45:57,260 --> 00:45:58,480
But I don't think that's a good

1390
00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:59,940
thing to do when we're racing.

1391
00:46:01,060 --> 00:46:02,420
Taking my eye off the game.

1392
00:46:02,420 --> 00:46:10,160
As we go into the Arrivederci.

1393
00:46:10,580 --> 00:46:11,900
Seven by twelve.

1394
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,560
Sponsored by Sparco.

1395
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,460
It's an absolutely demonic pace

1396
00:46:15,460 --> 00:46:17,030
being set here by the group

1397
00:46:17,030 --> 00:46:17,740
leader.

1398
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,240
Carlos Lopez.

1399
00:46:20,060 --> 00:46:21,240
Connor Williams in the Mercedes.

1400
00:46:21,820 --> 00:46:22,980
Trying to cut corners.

1401
00:46:23,740 --> 00:46:25,730
Maybe, just maybe, this might

1402
00:46:25,730 --> 00:46:26,780
not be his day.

1403
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,590
But again, Sam Pellegrino in

1404
00:46:28,590 --> 00:46:29,840
the back pocket.

1405
00:46:30,260 --> 00:46:31,820
And a lovely cool box chill

1406
00:46:31,820 --> 00:46:33,900
vibe full of liquid crystal

1407
00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:35,060
goose eggs.

1408
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,220
In the glove box.

1409
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,140
Says this could be the day for

1410
00:46:39,140 --> 00:46:40,720
something special.

1411
00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:43,580
Francesco Tarraracci has

1412
00:46:43,580 --> 00:46:46,050
respected all of us in a

1413
00:46:46,050 --> 00:46:47,520
ceremony.

1414
00:46:48,060 --> 00:46:49,090
Before we started the fucking

1415
00:46:49,090 --> 00:46:50,440
thing straight off it.

1416
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:52,340
Bear with me guys.

1417
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,340
Just need to have a sip of cranberry

1418
00:46:54,340 --> 00:46:54,940
juice.

1419
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,520
And then get involved in this

1420
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:57,020
race.

1421
00:46:57,340 --> 00:46:58,580
If one thing's for certain.

1422
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,160
I'm really going to enjoy the

1423
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,200
flyover again.

1424
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,420
That's, that's electric.

1425
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,060
That is electric.

1426
00:47:15,220 --> 00:47:15,980
The camera.

1427
00:47:16,300 --> 00:47:17,300
It looked like you had two

1428
00:47:17,300 --> 00:47:17,960
glasses.

1429
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:20,900
It does.

1430
00:47:21,460 --> 00:47:22,660
That's fantastic stuff.

1431
00:47:27,140 --> 00:47:27,940
Okay, come on.

1432
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:31,080
John!

1433
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,820
Get ready for the flyover here.

1434
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,160
This is why it's a slow rolling

1435
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:42,760
start.

1436
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:43,960
They had to give the go-ahead

1437
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:44,640
to the boys.

1438
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,400
And we're on the way here in

1439
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:47,340
Mazda 4.

1440
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:48,560
The European Championship.

1441
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,300
It's a beautiful day.

1442
00:47:50,700 --> 00:47:52,020
To race in Italy.

1443
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,600
The Italian Air Force.

1444
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:55,680
Resplendent with their tricot

1445
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:56,300
flag.

1446
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,940
It's a lovely green, white, and

1447
00:47:58,940 --> 00:47:59,560
red.

1448
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,080
triage of colors.

1449
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,140
Triage of colors.

1450
00:48:04,140 --> 00:48:06,820
Tri-factor, some would say.

1451
00:48:06,820 --> 00:48:08,580
As we go underneath the Harman

1452
00:48:08,580 --> 00:48:10,660
Logistics turn sponsor banner.

1453
00:48:10,820 --> 00:48:12,860
At a rapid and alarming pace.

1454
00:48:14,700 --> 00:48:16,340
203 kilometers an hour.

1455
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,380
On the Francesco Chocotici Benderoni.

1456
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,820
Right under the second Harman.

1457
00:48:23,420 --> 00:48:24,560
And that's a bad, we're doing

1458
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,240
bad harm in that chicane.

1459
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,480
And we need to worry about chicanes.

1460
00:48:28,540 --> 00:48:29,790
As I said to you before we even

1461
00:48:29,790 --> 00:48:30,800
started on Monza.

1462
00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:32,160
Those chicanes.

1463
00:48:32,700 --> 00:48:33,800
They come at you and they come

1464
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:34,300
hard.

1465
00:48:35,460 --> 00:48:36,180
Tony Morrison.

1466
00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:38,340
Told me all about it.

1467
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:41,710
The Michelin man is on the

1468
00:48:41,710 --> 00:48:43,040
phone.

1469
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,080
He's tired.

1470
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:49,300
Here we go.

1471
00:48:51,260 --> 00:48:51,670
And the Italian European

1472
00:48:51,670 --> 00:48:55,080
Championship leg race underway.

1473
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:56,460
Connor Williams behind the

1474
00:48:56,460 --> 00:48:58,220
wheel of an executive Mercedes.

1475
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,520
Sponsored by Zurich News Talk.

1476
00:49:00,820 --> 00:49:02,890
As we go into the Francesco Chocotici

1477
00:49:02,890 --> 00:49:04,780
first turn chicane bend.

1478
00:49:05,060 --> 00:49:07,210
At an alarming 57 kilometers

1479
00:49:07,210 --> 00:49:08,020
per hour.

1480
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,040
The pace is in the pudding.

1481
00:49:10,300 --> 00:49:11,520
The pudding is in the pace.

1482
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:12,880
As we move.

1483
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,090
Like an absolute dream demon

1484
00:49:15,090 --> 00:49:15,880
beast.

1485
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,740
Skinning the competition on the

1486
00:49:18,740 --> 00:49:20,260
outside edge.

1487
00:49:20,420 --> 00:49:22,060
It's a lovely day to be alive.

1488
00:49:22,180 --> 00:49:22,840
The sun is out.

1489
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:23,920
Not a cloud in the sky.

1490
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:24,860
Maybe one or two.

1491
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:25,860
They're not going to tap on our

1492
00:49:25,860 --> 00:49:26,300
spirits.

1493
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,140
As we take this slow.

1494
00:49:32,060 --> 00:49:33,560
And send it far.

1495
00:49:33,940 --> 00:49:34,940
It's mercurial.

1496
00:49:34,940 --> 00:49:35,700
Not the best.

1497
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:36,440
Not the worst.

1498
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,400
Tony Morris jewelry.

1499
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,470
Get yourself a look at some of

1500
00:49:41,470 --> 00:49:43,560
that fine jewelry.

1501
00:49:43,620 --> 00:49:44,560
Oh for fuck's sake.

1502
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,080
Don't worry about it.

1503
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,240
We just take it.

1504
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,040
Just enjoy it.

1505
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,380
Just enjoy the race.

1506
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:52,900
Just enjoy the race.

1507
00:49:53,900 --> 00:49:55,140
They're brutal corners.

1508
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:55,520
I know.

1509
00:49:55,660 --> 00:49:58,060
The stunning thing was that I

1510
00:49:58,060 --> 00:50:01,180
actually took them really well.

1511
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:02,580
First off.

1512
00:50:02,660 --> 00:50:04,040
And the Italian Grand Prix is

1513
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:04,720
underway.

1514
00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:07,520
I said under waste.

1515
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:08,760
Goose cloud.

1516
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:09,920
I'm just not.

1517
00:50:09,980 --> 00:50:10,820
I'm not at the races.

1518
00:50:10,940 --> 00:50:12,000
I'm not at the waste today.

1519
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:12,880
Trove for pace.

1520
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:13,620
Thank you very much.

1521
00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:15,340
Find the apex and send it far.

1522
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:16,440
Here we go.

1523
00:50:17,260 --> 00:50:17,500
Here we go.

1524
00:50:17,500 --> 00:50:20,140
Here we go.

1525
00:50:23,500 --> 00:50:23,890
The Italian Grand Prix is

1526
00:50:23,890 --> 00:50:25,280
underway.

1527
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,200
The Italian jets are running

1528
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,180
low on fuel.

1529
00:50:28,580 --> 00:50:30,680
As they've had to fly over four

1530
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,640
times in the last ten minutes.

1531
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:34,280
It's not the fuel we're worried

1532
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:34,800
about.

1533
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,230
It's whether enough they have

1534
00:50:37,230 --> 00:50:40,120
enough colored powder to dispense

1535
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,520
for another few flyovers.

1536
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:44,470
All we want to know is will it

1537
00:50:44,470 --> 00:50:46,500
be there at the podium when we

1538
00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:47,480
take gold.

1539
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,580
As we only took silver on our

1540
00:50:49,580 --> 00:50:51,320
last race in Croatia or

1541
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:52,660
Switzerland.

1542
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:53,640
Wherever it was.

1543
00:50:53,740 --> 00:50:54,540
Probably Croatia.

1544
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,900
I'm just hoping for a gold here.

1545
00:50:58,020 --> 00:50:58,720
A gold trophy.

1546
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:00,190
And we just need to remind

1547
00:51:00,190 --> 00:51:01,840
ourselves and remember.

1548
00:51:02,620 --> 00:51:03,620
Take it easy.

1549
00:51:03,860 --> 00:51:04,980
Lock out the noise.

1550
00:51:05,860 --> 00:51:07,180
Funnel out the negativity.

1551
00:51:07,740 --> 00:51:09,220
And fucking send it hard.

1552
00:51:09,220 --> 00:51:10,920
Under the Toby Morris jewelry

1553
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,080
hoarding stand.

1554
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:13,560
In behind the Porsche.

1555
00:51:14,020 --> 00:51:14,780
Go inside.

1556
00:51:14,900 --> 00:51:15,600
Cut inside.

1557
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,000
The Italian apex.

1558
00:51:18,180 --> 00:51:19,640
Just is screaming out for the

1559
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,760
touch of the soft rubber tires.

1560
00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:25,180
As we go too hard again.

1561
00:51:25,180 --> 00:51:30,180
Just bring it back.

1562
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:30,880
Bring it back.

1563
00:51:31,300 --> 00:51:32,380
Just stick on news talk for a

1564
00:51:32,380 --> 00:51:33,020
moment.

1565
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:33,580
Just to...

1566
00:51:33,580 --> 00:51:33,880
Records.

1567
00:51:34,580 --> 00:51:36,140
But it just sort of happened.

1568
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:38,960
And...

1569
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:39,800
Bear with me here.

1570
00:51:42,140 --> 00:51:43,460
You're probably going to have a

1571
00:51:43,460 --> 00:51:44,200
lot of anxiety.

1572
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:45,240
If you're a dad.

1573
00:51:45,240 --> 00:51:46,420
You're like, well, I'm...

1574
00:51:46,420 --> 00:51:47,920
You know, am I going to be

1575
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,590
having a life full of makeup

1576
00:51:49,590 --> 00:51:51,550
and glitter and, you know, LOL

1577
00:51:51,550 --> 00:51:52,360
dolls and all that?

1578
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,080
And I can kind of understand

1579
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,650
why a parent might be very

1580
00:51:55,650 --> 00:51:57,540
apprehensive about that.

1581
00:51:57,900 --> 00:51:58,300
Okay.

1582
00:51:58,460 --> 00:51:59,200
We'll move on.

1583
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:00,880
Right.

1584
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,140
Let's get back into the zone.

1585
00:52:02,220 --> 00:52:02,700
This is it.

1586
00:52:05,020 --> 00:52:06,120
Unpause and go right.

1587
00:52:06,580 --> 00:52:06,860
No.

1588
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,040
I want to stay on the track at

1589
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:08,660
all times.

1590
00:52:09,300 --> 00:52:09,660
Apex.

1591
00:52:10,020 --> 00:52:10,340
Apex.

1592
00:52:10,460 --> 00:52:11,420
It's all in the apex.

1593
00:52:11,740 --> 00:52:12,180
Come on.

1594
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:16,630
And the Italian leg of the

1595
00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:18,050
European Grand Prix is on a

1596
00:52:18,050 --> 00:52:18,840
race here.

1597
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,160
As the Italian Air Force are

1598
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,640
complaining that they've had to

1599
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,120
fly over five times in the last

1600
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,660
15 minutes.

1601
00:52:28,020 --> 00:52:29,830
Due to unforeseen circumstances

1602
00:52:29,830 --> 00:52:30,820
and events.

1603
00:52:31,060 --> 00:52:33,400
Nobody told Connor about these

1604
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:34,320
apexes.

1605
00:52:35,020 --> 00:52:36,200
Or chicanes.

1606
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,400
Nobody told me about them.

1607
00:52:38,860 --> 00:52:39,900
I remember racing them.

1608
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:41,320
Just forgotten all about them.

1609
00:52:42,660 --> 00:52:44,840
I thought they deleted them.

1610
00:52:45,140 --> 00:52:46,180
Because they were ruining the

1611
00:52:46,180 --> 00:52:46,640
crack.

1612
00:52:50,060 --> 00:52:51,100
Look at this, though.

1613
00:52:55,940 --> 00:52:56,780
What am I doing?

1614
00:52:56,900 --> 00:52:57,360
Trophies.

1615
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:58,060
I don't want...

1616
00:52:58,060 --> 00:52:59,020
Fuck the trophies, John.

1617
00:53:01,180 --> 00:53:01,960
Here we go.

1618
00:53:02,420 --> 00:53:03,160
This is it now.

1619
00:53:04,820 --> 00:53:05,600
This is it.

1620
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,200
The thing is...

1621
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,100
There's literally too much

1622
00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:12,720
power in my machine.

1623
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:14,270
I'm going to have to get it

1624
00:53:14,270 --> 00:53:15,420
down-powered.

1625
00:53:23,500 --> 00:53:21,930
And the Italian Grand Prix is

1626
00:53:21,930 --> 00:53:26,340
under race here.

1627
00:53:27,460 --> 00:53:29,150
As we go hard and fast into the

1628
00:53:29,150 --> 00:53:30,940
first chicane.

1629
00:53:31,420 --> 00:53:32,720
We're believing in our brakes.

1630
00:53:32,820 --> 00:53:33,540
They're strong.

1631
00:53:33,540 --> 00:53:35,540
We've carbon disc brakes.

1632
00:53:35,540 --> 00:53:37,400
Fitted in Rome yesterday

1633
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:38,500
afternoon.

1634
00:53:39,700 --> 00:53:41,120
On pain of death.

1635
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,140
And then we drove the bastard

1636
00:53:44,140 --> 00:53:45,700
up to Monza.

1637
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:48,760
Defying the laws of speed.

1638
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,040
Literal law.

1639
00:53:50,220 --> 00:53:51,480
Speed was broken.

1640
00:53:52,340 --> 00:53:53,140
And, uh...

1641
00:53:53,140 --> 00:53:55,140
We got a ticket.

1642
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:56,670
But there's no tickets being

1643
00:53:56,670 --> 00:53:58,460
dished out here anytime soon.

1644
00:53:58,540 --> 00:53:59,540
This is all about...

1645
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:00,900
Hell for leather.

1646
00:54:01,060 --> 00:54:02,000
Blood and thunder.

1647
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:03,260
Piss and vinegar.

1648
00:54:03,260 --> 00:54:05,040
Do you hear me, Belle Lane?

1649
00:54:05,660 --> 00:54:06,920
Do you hear me?

1650
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:09,700
Hail Caesar!

1651
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:13,380
Gino De Campo has been spotted

1652
00:54:13,380 --> 00:54:15,600
in the paddock.

1653
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,940
And I can't remember whether or

1654
00:54:20,940 --> 00:54:23,880
not he's a chef or a dancer.

1655
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,420
Of Strictly Come Dancing.

1656
00:54:28,420 --> 00:54:31,120
I think he's a chef who has a

1657
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,800
chain of restaurants.

1658
00:54:35,380 --> 00:54:36,380
He's the home intruder.

1659
00:54:36,380 --> 00:54:38,500
He's the home intruder.

1660
00:54:38,500 --> 00:54:40,380
What does that mean?

1661
00:54:42,380 --> 00:54:44,380
He's Italian, so both.

1662
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:46,500
Yeah, they're...

1663
00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:49,240
They're all blessed gastronomically.

1664
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,600
Which is a grandiose generalization.

1665
00:54:54,860 --> 00:54:56,270
Where it's positive, so it's

1666
00:54:56,270 --> 00:54:57,020
not racist.

1667
00:54:59,820 --> 00:55:00,140
Bit of positive racism as we go

1668
00:55:00,140 --> 00:55:03,660
into the Francesco Chocotici.

1669
00:55:04,140 --> 00:55:04,980
Hell for leather.

1670
00:55:05,140 --> 00:55:06,060
Straight room.

1671
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:07,560
What are you doing?

1672
00:55:08,420 --> 00:55:09,520
What are you doing?

1673
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:11,280
Need to keep the voice down.

1674
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:12,420
Because, uh...

1675
00:55:12,420 --> 00:55:14,160
Dublin airport will eject me

1676
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:15,660
from the exec lounge.

1677
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:17,200
It's a fucking...

1678
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,830
Didn't I tell you, Monza, it's

1679
00:55:19,830 --> 00:55:21,980
doggy dog out here in Gino De

1680
00:55:21,980 --> 00:55:23,480
Campo's Monza.

1681
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,040
Got absolutely De Campo'd again

1682
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,800
on the fast street.

1683
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,920
After navigating the chicanes.

1684
00:55:31,500 --> 00:55:33,280
Like a demon from the skies.

1685
00:55:34,980 --> 00:55:36,000
Find the apex.

1686
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:37,920
And send it far.

1687
00:55:38,140 --> 00:55:39,760
Find the apex, send it far.

1688
00:55:39,900 --> 00:55:40,280
Come on.

1689
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:40,980
This is it.

1690
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,080
No more restarts.

1691
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:43,340
No more retries.

1692
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,080
Maybe someone left a bit of pesto

1693
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:47,920
on the track.

1694
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:51,300
Or something.

1695
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,840
That's all I can...

1696
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,200
Think here.

1697
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:56,300
And the Italian Grand Prix is

1698
00:55:56,300 --> 00:55:57,860
under race again.

1699
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:58,520
Under way.

1700
00:55:58,780 --> 00:56:00,200
And the Air Force are

1701
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,260
absolutely down to last on

1702
00:56:02,260 --> 00:56:03,760
powdered flag.

1703
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,190
As they complain yet again to

1704
00:56:06,190 --> 00:56:08,500
the pit munchers back in the

1705
00:56:08,500 --> 00:56:09,300
paddock.

1706
00:56:09,300 --> 00:56:11,660
About how this race has taken

1707
00:56:11,660 --> 00:56:14,340
out too many of their boosters.

1708
00:56:14,340 --> 00:56:15,180
Powder boosters.

1709
00:56:15,180 --> 00:56:16,880
Powder boosters.

1710
00:56:17,180 --> 00:56:18,100
Which have to be fitted.

1711
00:56:19,300 --> 00:56:20,920
After every use.

1712
00:56:22,260 --> 00:56:23,980
But the powder keg is dry at

1713
00:56:23,980 --> 00:56:25,680
the moment.

1714
00:56:26,140 --> 00:56:27,610
So they're hoping to get some

1715
00:56:27,610 --> 00:56:28,640
shipped in.

1716
00:56:28,980 --> 00:56:29,840
Very quickly.

1717
00:56:31,240 --> 00:56:33,490
But the pigments of red, white

1718
00:56:33,490 --> 00:56:35,080
and green.

1719
00:56:35,180 --> 00:56:36,620
Unfortunately are running low.

1720
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,300
So the Italian flag might have

1721
00:56:38,300 --> 00:56:39,500
to be readjusted.

1722
00:56:39,500 --> 00:56:41,930
We could actually be seeing a

1723
00:56:41,930 --> 00:56:44,200
brand new Italian flag.

1724
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,300
Before the end of the day.

1725
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:48,890
All they have left is yellow

1726
00:56:48,890 --> 00:56:50,180
and brown.

1727
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:52,010
Which as you know doesn't

1728
00:56:52,010 --> 00:56:54,120
really sound appealing.

1729
00:56:54,740 --> 00:56:56,350
And might actually be seen as

1730
00:56:56,350 --> 00:56:58,300
an affront to the Italian

1731
00:56:58,300 --> 00:57:00,160
mindset and people.

1732
00:57:01,340 --> 00:57:02,200
Right now.

1733
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:03,080
It's not the powder.

1734
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:04,800
That those lads are sniffing.

1735
00:57:05,060 --> 00:57:06,740
It's my exhaust fumes.

1736
00:57:07,180 --> 00:57:08,270
As I don't go off the side of

1737
00:57:08,270 --> 00:57:10,070
the fucking Francesco Chocotici

1738
00:57:10,070 --> 00:57:11,280
straight house.

1739
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:12,960
I tailgage.

1740
00:57:13,240 --> 00:57:14,220
These losers.

1741
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:16,250
And make sure I'm going like a

1742
00:57:16,250 --> 00:57:18,280
kitten on the break here.

1743
00:57:18,540 --> 00:57:19,340
Kitten on the keys.

1744
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:21,020
Fats Domino.

1745
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:23,320
Another brilliant.

1746
00:57:23,540 --> 00:57:24,440
Brilliant tune.

1747
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:26,180
Who's this?

1748
00:57:26,580 --> 00:57:27,560
Get out of my way.

1749
00:57:30,340 --> 00:57:31,420
Smokehouse.

1750
00:57:32,020 --> 00:57:32,540
Smokehouse.

1751
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,520
And we'll go for a triple smokehouse

1752
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:35,720
for the next turn.

1753
00:57:37,020 --> 00:57:37,580
Smokehouse.

1754
00:57:43,980 --> 00:57:44,880
Lovely stuff.

1755
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:46,460
You just have to wonder what

1756
00:57:46,460 --> 00:57:47,840
the hell this lad is doing

1757
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:48,720
ahead of me.

1758
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,920
But every time I start.

1759
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,160
I'm at the back.

1760
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:54,860
Just to give myself.

1761
00:57:55,660 --> 00:57:56,920
A bit of a challenge you know.

1762
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:58,360
Because if I'm up.

1763
00:57:58,600 --> 00:57:59,420
Right out the front.

1764
00:57:59,500 --> 00:58:00,180
If I podium.

1765
00:58:01,180 --> 00:58:02,120
In qualifying.

1766
00:58:03,060 --> 00:58:03,780
It's just.

1767
00:58:03,860 --> 00:58:04,720
There's no competition.

1768
00:58:09,460 --> 00:58:10,780
There's no competition here.

1769
00:58:12,020 --> 00:58:12,280
Jesus.

1770
00:58:12,500 --> 00:58:13,560
Chicanes are insane.

1771
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:14,040
Aren't they?

1772
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:15,320
You know.

1773
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:16,600
That's the thing about Monza.

1774
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,880
It lulls you into a false sense

1775
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,120
of security.

1776
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,060
So much so.

1777
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:23,080
You're flying.

1778
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:24,500
You're absolutely flying.

1779
00:58:24,700 --> 00:58:25,440
And the next thing you know.

1780
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:25,940
Bam.

1781
00:58:27,780 --> 00:58:29,800
The Bam contract is gone.

1782
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:30,440
Tits up.

1783
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,730
We need another $7 billion so

1784
00:58:32,730 --> 00:58:35,330
that it gets finished next

1785
00:58:35,330 --> 00:58:36,500
Tuesday.

1786
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:39,990
And Paul Meskel and Grant Thornton

1787
00:58:39,990 --> 00:58:43,130
are fucking burning the ear off

1788
00:58:43,130 --> 00:58:43,840
me.

1789
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:45,380
Thank you very much, Paul Meskel,

1790
00:58:45,380 --> 00:58:46,580
for the tip, by the way.

1791
00:58:46,900 --> 00:58:47,790
I hope you're getting on well

1792
00:58:47,790 --> 00:58:49,320
and you got on to Grant Thornton.

1793
00:58:49,820 --> 00:58:50,370
They were asking multiple

1794
00:58:50,370 --> 00:58:51,650
questions about you and whether

1795
00:58:51,650 --> 00:58:52,860
or not you needed an audit.

1796
00:58:54,900 --> 00:58:55,350
I put the stink out that you

1797
00:58:55,350 --> 00:58:57,440
were fully liquid.

1798
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:00,600
And they took the bait.

1799
00:59:01,060 --> 00:59:01,870
Doesn't mean to say that they've

1800
00:59:01,870 --> 00:59:03,220
forgotten about you, Paul.

1801
00:59:04,660 --> 00:59:04,990
Have we finally got the F1

1802
00:59:04,990 --> 00:59:06,840
contract sorted, Khan?

1803
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,590
I don't know, but I'm setting

1804
00:59:08,590 --> 00:59:10,660
my sights on Lopez and Beauvoir.

1805
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,360
You know, my nemesis.

1806
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:15,910
Beauvoir, who's leading at the

1807
00:59:15,910 --> 00:59:16,780
moment.

1808
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,310
We've still got another Lapetici

1809
00:59:19,310 --> 00:59:21,000
to come after this.

1810
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:22,070
We just need to remind

1811
00:59:22,070 --> 00:59:23,660
ourselves that the chicanes are

1812
00:59:23,660 --> 00:59:24,180
nasty.

1813
00:59:28,020 --> 00:59:30,020
And send it. And send it.

1814
00:59:30,020 --> 00:59:36,210
And have it crying, screaming

1815
00:59:36,210 --> 00:59:39,600
out for sixth.

1816
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:40,440
Well, we're in sixth.

1817
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:43,640
Go down.

1818
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:44,700
Go down.

1819
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:46,380
Nice and easy does it.

1820
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:47,560
Keep it in second.

1821
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:48,520
Up to third.

1822
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:49,920
Pedal to the middle.

1823
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:50,760
Fourth.

1824
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,460
Paddle shift to fifth.

1825
00:59:53,460 --> 00:59:55,420
And we're going to be playing

1826
00:59:55,420 --> 00:59:57,540
paddle later on after this.

1827
01:00:00,420 --> 01:00:02,180
With Gino De Campo.

1828
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:04,220
J-Ro.

1829
01:00:05,220 --> 01:00:06,720
And the leader of the Italian

1830
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:07,920
Air Force.

1831
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,040
Look.

1832
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,140
Antonio Planeoli.

1833
01:00:22,620 --> 01:00:21,400
Gino De Campo did two years in

1834
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,830
jail for breaking into singer

1835
01:00:24,830 --> 01:00:27,520
Paul Young's house.

1836
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:28,720
I didn't know that.

1837
01:00:29,260 --> 01:00:31,000
How did he come back from that?

1838
01:00:32,620 --> 01:00:33,620
What about this?

1839
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,140
What about this, lads?

1840
01:00:36,140 --> 01:00:36,140
What about this?

1841
01:00:43,620 --> 01:00:45,360
granny cornering there?

1842
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:54,860
Don't let it slip away.

1843
01:00:55,420 --> 01:00:56,520
Don't let it slip away.

1844
01:00:58,380 --> 01:00:59,720
And we open it up here.

1845
01:01:00,620 --> 01:01:01,880
And cool it down again.

1846
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:04,440
And then open it up again.

1847
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:06,740
Open up like a lovely tin of

1848
01:01:06,740 --> 01:01:07,340
beans.

1849
01:01:13,420 --> 01:01:14,220
Mamma mia.

1850
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:16,860
Here I go again.

1851
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:17,780
My, my.

1852
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,160
Gold trove in the sky.

1853
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:22,180
In the eye.

1854
01:01:22,500 --> 01:01:24,180
Ready to be claimed at pace.

1855
01:01:24,300 --> 01:01:25,040
Trove for pace.

1856
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:28,460
I love the way the apexes have

1857
01:01:28,460 --> 01:01:31,200
the Italian colors.

1858
01:01:32,540 --> 01:01:33,800
You know, you know that they

1859
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:34,920
just saw red and white and

1860
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:35,540
thought.

1861
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:37,150
That needs a lovely lock of

1862
01:01:37,150 --> 01:01:38,760
green in there, lads.

1863
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:43,100
Final turn coming up.

1864
01:01:43,420 --> 01:01:44,660
We'll cool our jets here.

1865
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,040
Down to second.

1866
01:01:47,580 --> 01:01:49,060
Granny it around the apex.

1867
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:51,600
Dot IE.

1868
01:01:51,700 --> 01:01:52,740
Thank you very much there.

1869
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:53,800
Eduardo.

1870
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:54,400
Hob.

1871
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:55,360
Hobachichi.

1872
01:01:56,660 --> 01:01:57,520
Look at that.

1873
01:01:57,860 --> 01:01:58,620
No competition.

1874
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:00,500
No competizioni.

1875
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:02,260
Absolute fantastic race there

1876
01:02:02,260 --> 01:02:03,800
from Connor Williams in the

1877
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:04,580
Mercedes.

1878
01:02:05,860 --> 01:02:06,960
Mercurial action from start to

1879
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:07,820
finish.

1880
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:09,780
Not one mistake made.

1881
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:10,860
No.

1882
01:02:11,340 --> 01:02:12,340
It's a clean race.

1883
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:13,520
It was a clean race bonus.

1884
01:02:14,180 --> 01:02:15,130
It's definitely going to be

1885
01:02:15,130 --> 01:02:16,340
given to us there.

1886
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:16,960
Awarded.

1887
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,390
And if I'm correct, I don't

1888
01:02:19,390 --> 01:02:21,860
think Lopez finished second.

1889
01:02:22,260 --> 01:02:23,800
Which means we fire ourselves

1890
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,270
right up to the top of the

1891
01:02:25,270 --> 01:02:26,380
leaderboard.

1892
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:28,700
Barry Beauvoir in second, our

1893
01:02:28,700 --> 01:02:29,620
nemesis.

1894
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,970
Lopez could only manage a paltry

1895
01:02:31,970 --> 01:02:32,740
third.

1896
01:02:33,820 --> 01:02:35,420
And the rest of them, who cares?

1897
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,120
Nobody remembers you.

1898
01:02:37,220 --> 01:02:38,720
You didn't finish on the podium.

1899
01:02:40,020 --> 01:02:41,220
Get the goose out.

1900
01:02:41,380 --> 01:02:42,080
But not yet.

1901
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:43,560
We still have one more race.

1902
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:51,320
Love it.

1903
01:02:51,700 --> 01:02:52,620
Absolutely love it.

1904
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:54,490
Fantastic performance all

1905
01:02:54,490 --> 01:02:55,240
around.

1906
01:02:57,060 --> 01:02:58,620
Ah, Gino Gianelli.

1907
01:03:00,140 --> 01:03:01,290
Can we see the standings in the

1908
01:03:01,290 --> 01:03:03,080
table, please?

1909
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:12,580
Lopez is in serious debt.

1910
01:03:14,580 --> 01:03:16,860
Yeah, the company is...

1911
01:03:16,860 --> 01:03:18,870
The Constructors' Championship

1912
01:03:18,870 --> 01:03:20,580
definitely is not going to be

1913
01:03:20,580 --> 01:03:21,960
for them this year.

1914
01:03:22,340 --> 01:03:23,600
We're going to take both.

1915
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,620
It's going to be a Constructors'

1916
01:03:25,620 --> 01:03:27,340
and Drivers' duopolis.

1917
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,160
Just a lovely little look here.

1918
01:03:31,460 --> 01:03:33,210
Slam News Talk back on while we're

1919
01:03:33,210 --> 01:03:35,450
watching that fantastic race I

1920
01:03:35,450 --> 01:03:36,420
just won.

1921
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:39,380
Absolutely decamp...

1922
01:03:39,380 --> 01:03:40,280
Go to the Coors, please!

1923
01:03:41,500 --> 01:03:42,690
Absolutely decampo'd the

1924
01:03:42,690 --> 01:03:44,220
competition.

1925
01:03:47,340 --> 01:03:48,300
Adverts are terrible.

1926
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,300
Tell you, Coors is...

1927
01:03:56,300 --> 01:03:58,160
It's tasteless stuff.

1928
01:03:58,980 --> 01:04:00,300
Absolutely tasteless stuff.

1929
01:04:00,300 --> 01:04:00,940
It is, yeah.

1930
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:01,440
Wow.

1931
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:02,600
And would you be all over the

1932
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:03,700
world now doing stunts on

1933
01:04:03,700 --> 01:04:04,880
movies, or is it very much an

1934
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,040
Irish-based...

1935
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:07,520
No, um, luckily it would have

1936
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:08,780
been that way until sort of

1937
01:04:08,780 --> 01:04:10,750
maybe early 2000s, but lately

1938
01:04:10,750 --> 01:04:12,460
some of our crews are...

1939
01:04:12,460 --> 01:04:12,980
Good luck.

1940
01:04:13,980 --> 01:04:14,560
Good luck.

1941
01:04:14,620 --> 01:04:15,920
It sounds interesting, but I

1942
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:17,100
mean, this is better.

1943
01:04:18,540 --> 01:04:19,540
This is much better.

1944
01:04:20,540 --> 01:04:21,280
Look at the light.

1945
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:21,500
Look at the light.

1946
01:04:21,500 --> 01:04:21,500
Look at the light.

1947
01:04:22,500 --> 01:04:23,180
I mean, to win a race at Monza

1948
01:04:23,180 --> 01:04:24,650
is one thing, but to do it

1949
01:04:24,650 --> 01:04:25,980
under the cover of such

1950
01:04:25,980 --> 01:04:27,820
impressive lighting like that

1951
01:04:27,820 --> 01:04:28,780
is another.

1952
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:30,650
I don't think many people have

1953
01:04:30,650 --> 01:04:32,600
had the privilege of being able

1954
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:33,500
to...

1955
01:04:33,500 --> 01:04:36,080
And look at that Porsche.

1956
01:04:36,180 --> 01:04:38,060
It's a beautiful machine, but

1957
01:04:38,060 --> 01:04:40,030
it just doesn't have the muscle

1958
01:04:40,030 --> 01:04:41,930
necessary to make gains in the

1959
01:04:41,930 --> 01:04:43,900
way that I made them there.

1960
01:04:43,900 --> 01:04:49,650
And I want to dedicate this win

1961
01:04:49,650 --> 01:04:53,140
to Eddie Hobbs.

1962
01:04:58,820 --> 01:04:59,800
Absolutely lovely.

1963
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:00,980
Cornering there.

1964
01:05:01,980 --> 01:05:04,520
Cautious, but still aggressive.

1965
01:05:05,180 --> 01:05:06,460
Little knock there on that

1966
01:05:06,460 --> 01:05:07,660
Volkswagen.

1967
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:09,940
I don't remember that.

1968
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:13,800
And I actually don't know if...

1969
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:14,980
I didn't check to verify

1970
01:05:14,980 --> 01:05:16,180
whether or not I got a clean

1971
01:05:16,180 --> 01:05:16,960
race bonus.

1972
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:18,740
Don't think I did.

1973
01:05:21,260 --> 01:05:23,560
Dan Breen says this car is...

1974
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:24,940
The D4 Death Ray.

1975
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:32,960
Fantastic.

1976
01:05:36,460 --> 01:05:37,180
I don't...

1977
01:05:37,180 --> 01:05:38,640
I don't really need to see the

1978
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:39,620
final two laps.

1979
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:40,460
That's enough for me.

1980
01:05:41,260 --> 01:05:42,060
That's nice though.

1981
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:42,540
Look at that.

1982
01:05:45,020 --> 01:05:45,740
Didn't know...

1983
01:05:45,740 --> 01:05:46,720
Didn't know when to break.

1984
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:49,220
But I still had what it took to

1985
01:05:49,220 --> 01:05:53,040
outmaneuver someone on those chicanes.

1986
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:55,040
Skellington, thank you very

1987
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:56,960
much for the tip, buddy.

1988
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:57,940
Hope you're doing well.

1989
01:05:58,660 --> 01:05:59,020
Bellissimo.

1990
01:05:59,020 --> 01:05:59,140
Bellissimo.

1991
01:06:05,140 --> 01:06:06,720
It's what you're built to do.

1992
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,700
It's absolutely fantastic.

1993
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:13,700
As we go into our...

1994
01:06:13,700 --> 01:06:15,130
I think the final race of the

1995
01:06:15,130 --> 01:06:15,740
series.

1996
01:06:16,060 --> 01:06:17,740
I'm nestled at the top there.

1997
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:18,920
Comfortably.

1998
01:06:19,780 --> 01:06:21,180
I have 22 points.

1999
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:23,640
Beauvoir in second.

2000
01:06:24,700 --> 01:06:25,040
Oh no.

2001
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:26,360
That's not the final...

2002
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:27,820
That's not the final standings.

2003
01:06:29,100 --> 01:06:30,100
So Lopez...

2004
01:06:30,100 --> 01:06:30,100
Lopez...

2005
01:06:30,100 --> 01:06:31,900
In the M4 is going to move up

2006
01:06:31,900 --> 01:06:32,700
to second.

2007
01:06:33,740 --> 01:06:34,740
Or into second.

2008
01:06:35,700 --> 01:06:37,780
European Championship Race 3.

2009
01:06:38,500 --> 01:06:40,380
And it had to be the Nürburgring.

2010
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:41,440
It's the GP circuit.

2011
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:43,420
It's the GP circuit.

2012
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:44,700
So I'm not...

2013
01:06:45,820 --> 01:06:46,700
As...

2014
01:06:46,700 --> 01:06:47,700
Ofe...

2015
01:06:47,700 --> 01:06:50,080
Around the GP circuit as I am...

2016
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:51,100
With the Nordschleife.

2017
01:06:51,580 --> 01:06:53,260
But it's still sheer...

2018
01:06:53,260 --> 01:06:54,260
Driving pleasure...

2019
01:06:54,260 --> 01:06:55,260
All the way here...

2020
01:06:55,260 --> 01:06:56,260
At Nürburgring.

2021
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:57,300
You're...

2022
01:06:57,300 --> 01:06:58,260
Very welcome...

2023
01:06:59,260 --> 01:06:59,820
To...

2024
01:06:59,820 --> 01:07:00,820
Drive time today.

2025
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:01,580
Unfortunately...

2026
01:07:01,580 --> 01:07:02,480
The heavens have opened...

2027
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:03,040
In Germany.

2028
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:05,080
And we're about to...

2029
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:05,760
Lay siege...

2030
01:07:06,700 --> 01:07:08,720
To the Nürburgring GP track.

2031
01:07:09,340 --> 01:07:10,440
Three laps of...

2032
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:11,920
Total driving mayhem.

2033
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:14,680
We might have to change the

2034
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,480
tires...

2035
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:16,880
To...

2036
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:17,760
Uh...

2037
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,560
Increase the grippage...

2038
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:20,080
Because I'm...

2039
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:21,760
I'm rocking super softs...

2040
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:23,200
At the moment I think.

2041
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:24,520
Let's have a look and see...

2042
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:25,400
What we're dealing with here.

2043
01:07:26,020 --> 01:07:26,760
Car settings...

2044
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:27,760
Soft.

2045
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:30,400
Do we need wets?

2046
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:35,400
Racing...

2047
01:07:35,940 --> 01:07:36,340
Medium.

2048
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:42,480
Racing heavy wet.

2049
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:44,760
Yeah...

2050
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:45,900
Let's get to the shop...

2051
01:07:45,900 --> 01:07:46,420
And see...

2052
01:07:46,420 --> 01:07:47,460
If they have any wets.

2053
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:49,520
Race shop.

2054
01:07:52,220 --> 01:07:52,660
Intermediate.

2055
01:07:54,180 --> 01:07:54,640
Wet.

2056
01:07:54,640 --> 01:08:01,640
And let's...

2057
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:02,640
Slap...

2058
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:03,680
Those...

2059
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:04,520
Balloons...

2060
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:05,720
Onto the...

2061
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:06,720
The axles.

2062
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:08,280
Racing heavy wet.

2063
01:08:09,180 --> 01:08:09,640
Hopefully it's...

2064
01:08:10,820 --> 01:08:11,420
Allowed.

2065
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:12,760
Sometimes they don't allow you.

2066
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:13,640
But I think in this...

2067
01:08:14,260 --> 01:08:14,900
Situation.

2068
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:15,640
It's bringing my...

2069
01:08:16,860 --> 01:08:18,520
Driving power down...

2070
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:19,280
A few notches.

2071
01:08:19,420 --> 01:08:20,640
Because I'm not gonna have that...

2072
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:22,640
Super soft...

2073
01:08:23,380 --> 01:08:24,300
Speed anymore.

2074
01:08:24,380 --> 01:08:24,940
That grip.

2075
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:26,380
But...

2076
01:08:26,380 --> 01:08:27,260
Hopefully it's allowed.

2077
01:08:28,480 --> 01:08:28,920
Calculate.

2078
01:08:29,020 --> 01:08:29,740
Performance done.

2079
01:08:30,540 --> 01:08:31,140
There we go.

2080
01:08:31,220 --> 01:08:31,640
Good stuff.

2081
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,200
I wonder will we have...

2082
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:45,480
The German Air Force out.

2083
01:08:45,540 --> 01:08:46,720
It's not a great day for it.

2084
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:54,720
Nothing spectacular in the

2085
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:55,120
skies...

2086
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:55,580
Nothing spectacular in the

2087
01:08:55,580 --> 01:08:55,880
skies...

2088
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:56,980
As we start this one.

2089
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:58,120
But we've got great grip.

2090
01:08:58,380 --> 01:08:59,940
Thanks to the wets...

2091
01:08:59,940 --> 01:09:01,240
That we've just purchased there...

2092
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:02,740
For 30,000 credits.

2093
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:11,680
Just a bit of...

2094
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:11,880
Just a bit of...

2095
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:13,020
Slight...

2096
01:09:13,020 --> 01:09:14,340
Shunt and bump in there.

2097
01:09:14,440 --> 01:09:15,500
Nothing too...

2098
01:09:15,500 --> 01:09:16,220
Heavy or hectic.

2099
01:09:16,340 --> 01:09:17,750
Nothing that's gonna get me disqualified

2100
01:09:17,750 --> 01:09:18,340
or anything.

2101
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:21,980
But I'm 26 seconds off...

2102
01:09:21,980 --> 01:09:22,920
Off the front here.

2103
01:09:23,340 --> 01:09:23,920
And that's...

2104
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:24,680
Really going to...

2105
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:26,900
With the cat amongst the

2106
01:09:26,900 --> 01:09:28,240
pigeons...

2107
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,300
Because it requires dedication...

2108
01:09:30,300 --> 01:09:31,120
Concentration...

2109
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:32,160
Tenacity...

2110
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:32,620
Grit...

2111
01:09:32,620 --> 01:09:36,160
And a lot of oomph.

2112
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,380
Absolute shitter of a day...

2113
01:09:41,380 --> 01:09:43,120
But I feel my woes being synergized

2114
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:44,540
away by the cons...

2115
01:09:44,540 --> 01:09:45,000
And that's...

2116
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:45,980
That's exactly what we're

2117
01:09:45,980 --> 01:09:47,000
aiming to achieve here.

2118
01:09:47,060 --> 01:09:47,680
Just you wait...

2119
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:48,780
Once we get this trophy in the

2120
01:09:48,780 --> 01:09:49,380
bag...

2121
01:09:50,580 --> 01:09:51,420
I'm gonna show you what a media

2122
01:09:51,420 --> 01:09:53,360
masterclass looks like.

2123
01:09:53,780 --> 01:09:54,620
When we review the...

2124
01:09:54,620 --> 01:09:55,500
The Yates...

2125
01:09:55,500 --> 01:09:56,380
Situation.

2126
01:09:59,580 --> 01:10:00,840
Total and utter media

2127
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:01,800
domination.

2128
01:10:08,820 --> 01:10:08,140
And the rain has stopped, I

2129
01:10:08,140 --> 01:10:10,380
think.

2130
01:10:11,060 --> 01:10:11,460
No.

2131
01:10:11,780 --> 01:10:12,340
Still going.

2132
01:10:19,780 --> 01:10:18,730
Half days on Friday for the

2133
01:10:18,730 --> 01:10:22,280
Luftwaffe.

2134
01:10:22,620 --> 01:10:24,400
Are they still called the Luftwaffe?

2135
01:10:25,020 --> 01:10:25,720
You would have thought they

2136
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:26,950
would have gone for a bit of a

2137
01:10:26,950 --> 01:10:27,580
rebrand.

2138
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,320
After the whole war thing...

2139
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:33,160
That happened.

2140
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:35,570
But I don't think there's any

2141
01:10:35,570 --> 01:10:38,230
militaristic connotations in

2142
01:10:38,230 --> 01:10:39,520
Luftwaffe.

2143
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:41,320
I think it just means...

2144
01:10:42,580 --> 01:10:43,860
Aeroplane, does it?

2145
01:10:44,940 --> 01:10:45,860
Air force.

2146
01:10:45,860 --> 01:11:00,540
it's literally the german

2147
01:11:00,540 --> 01:11:02,820
language i i know that i know i'm

2148
01:11:02,820 --> 01:11:03,840
just saying

2149
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,190
when you think of luftwaffe you

2150
01:11:06,190 --> 01:11:07,970
think of the the planes

2151
01:11:07,970 --> 01:11:10,120
dropping bombs and and all that

2152
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:10,540
sort of

2153
01:11:10,540 --> 01:11:14,730
stuff air force does it mean

2154
01:11:14,730 --> 01:11:19,660
air force that's now that's me

2155
01:11:19,660 --> 01:11:24,680
going right into the yokohama

2156
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:25,560
tire

2157
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,920
fucking barrier because why i'm

2158
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:29,770
having an argument about what

2159
01:11:29,770 --> 01:11:31,720
luftwaffe means with guillem

2160
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:32,300
benoit

2161
01:11:32,300 --> 01:11:35,430
red barons it means red barons

2162
01:11:35,430 --> 01:11:38,460
okay i'm glad with this we've

2163
01:11:38,460 --> 01:11:40,400
established that

2164
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:44,560
glad we've established that

2165
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:48,550
come on some curry verse has

2166
01:11:48,550 --> 01:11:52,610
been mentioned which is now

2167
01:11:52,610 --> 01:11:54,020
making me

2168
01:11:54,020 --> 01:11:56,380
think of curry verse i want

2169
01:11:56,380 --> 01:11:58,850
that curry verse okay let's

2170
01:11:58,850 --> 01:12:01,350
just go for a broke again what

2171
01:12:01,350 --> 01:12:02,960
are you doing here

2172
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:07,470
luft means air wafa means

2173
01:12:07,470 --> 01:12:09,660
weapon okay

2174
01:12:09,660 --> 01:12:17,520
99 luft balloons yeah sorry for

2175
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,770
the sauerkraut there i don't

2176
01:12:19,770 --> 01:12:22,260
mean to be going sauerkraut on

2177
01:12:22,260 --> 01:12:22,680
this is a

2178
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,050
friday this is trophy day this

2179
01:12:25,050 --> 01:12:28,860
is drive time it's essential

2180
01:12:28,860 --> 01:12:31,900
thank you very much owen murphy

2181
01:12:31,900 --> 01:12:33,000
for the tip

2182
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,600
because i fucking clip a cone

2183
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,700
cone clipper

2184
01:12:37,700 --> 01:12:43,140
you just need to i mean podium

2185
01:12:43,140 --> 01:12:44,850
is it going to be enough

2186
01:12:44,850 --> 01:12:46,920
especially if both wires in

2187
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:48,420
second look at that

2188
01:12:48,420 --> 01:12:50,500
name up in second we can't let

2189
01:12:50,500 --> 01:12:52,600
that happen they're going to

2190
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,690
take us to the cleaners third

2191
01:12:54,690 --> 01:12:55,820
is not enough

2192
01:12:55,820 --> 01:12:57,350
second might be enough if

2193
01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:59,170
second might just be enough if

2194
01:12:59,170 --> 01:13:01,130
lopez wins but then again i don't

2195
01:13:01,130 --> 01:13:02,040
think it will

2196
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,010
because if lopez wins i think

2197
01:13:04,010 --> 01:13:05,720
he might go ahead of me but

2198
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,000
then he finished third in monza

2199
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:09,540
so the permutations and

2200
01:13:09,540 --> 01:13:11,910
combinations are being worked

2201
01:13:11,910 --> 01:13:13,840
out here in my mind i just

2202
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,040
think we might scrape it

2203
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:17,720
you know because it looks like

2204
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:19,240
lopez is having a better day

2205
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:20,770
out in germany than he was in

2206
01:13:20,770 --> 01:13:21,220
italy

2207
01:13:21,220 --> 01:13:29,160
tension is tight

2208
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:33,320
and the racing is smooth the

2209
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:37,440
rain is heavy the tires are wets

2210
01:13:37,440 --> 01:13:39,530
and we're looking like we're on

2211
01:13:39,530 --> 01:13:41,570
course for something special

2212
01:13:41,570 --> 01:13:43,620
here as we sit nestled snugly

2213
01:13:43,620 --> 01:13:44,790
at the top of the european

2214
01:13:44,790 --> 01:13:45,400
championship

2215
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:49,720
i'm going through the gears

2216
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,110
very slowly compared to monza i'm

2217
01:13:52,110 --> 01:13:54,070
waiting till the gearbox is

2218
01:13:54,070 --> 01:13:56,030
actually screaming at me to

2219
01:13:56,030 --> 01:13:56,620
change

2220
01:13:56,620 --> 01:14:00,380
that's a little shunt

2221
01:14:00,380 --> 01:14:02,520
it's nothing we can't handle a

2222
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,720
little scratch of my forehead

2223
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,730
just to give me that little bit

2224
01:14:07,730 --> 01:14:10,630
of extra concentration as we

2225
01:14:10,630 --> 01:14:12,400
just go one go two

2226
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,110
and maybe a third to follow

2227
01:14:15,110 --> 01:14:18,200
here oh oh fucking hell what's

2228
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,390
this oh that's not good that's

2229
01:14:21,390 --> 01:14:22,140
whiplash

2230
01:14:22,140 --> 01:14:24,810
i'm gonna scratch my head again

2231
01:14:24,810 --> 01:14:25,680
for a look

2232
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:36,900
come on come on come on

2233
01:14:36,900 --> 01:14:39,990
i don't know why but i've i've

2234
01:14:39,990 --> 01:14:43,880
actually got a few different itches

2235
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:47,130
on different parts of my face i

2236
01:14:47,130 --> 01:14:48,320
think maybe it's the

2237
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:49,260
embarrassment

2238
01:14:49,260 --> 01:14:52,400
of crashing out two or three

2239
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:53,940
times in a row

2240
01:14:53,940 --> 01:14:57,640
but one thing's for certain we're

2241
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:00,480
doing it for olaf schultz

2242
01:15:00,480 --> 01:15:02,340
we're doing it for helmet coal

2243
01:15:02,340 --> 01:15:05,360
we're doing it for angela merkel

2244
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:09,620
we're doing it for the germans

2245
01:15:09,620 --> 01:15:13,600
we're going german on this

2246
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,440
it's fitting right a win for

2247
01:15:16,440 --> 01:15:18,940
mercedes right here would be

2248
01:15:18,940 --> 01:15:21,580
something on home turf

2249
01:15:21,580 --> 01:15:25,230
even though the uh the balance

2250
01:15:25,230 --> 01:15:27,430
of sponsorship around the track

2251
01:15:27,430 --> 01:15:29,220
lies heavily with the bmw

2252
01:15:29,220 --> 01:15:33,790
it really would wipe the eye of

2253
01:15:33,790 --> 01:15:36,220
the beamer boys if we ace this

2254
01:15:36,220 --> 01:15:36,220
race

2255
01:15:36,220 --> 01:15:42,220
if we ace this race

2256
01:15:42,220 --> 01:15:57,220
ace of base

2257
01:15:57,220 --> 01:16:00,260
apex tickle stone

2258
01:16:00,260 --> 01:16:04,120
we're doing it for clinsman

2259
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:08,200
we're doing it for hansi flick

2260
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:13,160
just gonna fishtail this guy

2261
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,220
that's nice

2262
01:16:15,220 --> 01:16:17,020
and then open it up

2263
01:16:17,020 --> 01:16:18,360
open up large

2264
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:22,600
beautiful

2265
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:29,080
so fast so fast so fast and so

2266
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:30,500
clean as well

2267
01:16:30,500 --> 01:16:38,120
bit dodge

2268
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:39,760
bit dodge

2269
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,640
verner herzog is in the pits

2270
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:43,940
with san pel

2271
01:16:43,940 --> 01:16:45,560
waiting

2272
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,290
we're gonna do it for the

2273
01:16:47,290 --> 01:16:49,240
german austrians as well

2274
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:53,320
we're doing it for all ethnic

2275
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:54,540
germans

2276
01:16:54,540 --> 01:16:58,690
we're doing it for joe chimp

2277
01:16:58,690 --> 01:16:59,480
love

2278
01:16:59,480 --> 01:17:02,440
we're doing it for yogi love

2279
01:17:02,440 --> 01:17:10,480
christophe waltz as well

2280
01:17:10,480 --> 01:17:12,240
hopefully we're gonna be going

2281
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:13,860
for dinner later after this

2282
01:17:13,860 --> 01:17:18,760
in nuremberg or nuremberg ring

2283
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:19,320
or nuremberg ring

2284
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,670
we're gonna do it for claus kinsey

2285
01:17:21,670 --> 01:17:24,020
we're doing it for michael balek

2286
01:17:24,020 --> 01:17:25,180
boris becker

2287
01:17:25,180 --> 01:17:29,020
olaf schultz a second time

2288
01:17:29,020 --> 01:17:34,020
martin luther

2289
01:17:34,020 --> 01:17:35,680
the original

2290
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:37,740
the original protestant

2291
01:17:37,740 --> 01:17:38,340
the op

2292
01:17:38,340 --> 01:17:45,900
oh my god no

2293
01:17:45,900 --> 01:17:50,100
we're doing it for oliver khan

2294
01:17:50,100 --> 01:17:51,740
and his impressive

2295
01:17:51,740 --> 01:17:53,800
golden mane

2296
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,200
i wonder does he still have it

2297
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,800
khan cook

2298
01:17:58,800 --> 01:17:59,840
won't cook

2299
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:02,580
his ill-fated foray into

2300
01:18:02,580 --> 01:18:03,160
television

2301
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,920
into gastro telly

2302
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,260
which didn't take off

2303
01:18:08,260 --> 01:18:14,240
put the foot down i'm trying

2304
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:15,800
we're doing it for genghis khan

2305
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:17,100
who wasn't even german

2306
01:18:17,100 --> 01:18:21,120
we're doing it for the big

2307
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,300
german man himself

2308
01:18:23,300 --> 01:18:26,280
none other than albert einstein

2309
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:32,980
we're doing it for carl heinz riedler

2310
01:18:32,980 --> 01:18:36,380
lother matthias

2311
01:18:36,380 --> 01:18:38,480
do we know any other germans

2312
01:18:38,480 --> 01:18:39,300
other than uh

2313
01:18:39,300 --> 01:18:40,600
footballers

2314
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,920
ludwig van beethoven

2315
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:48,420
fucking mozart

2316
01:18:48,420 --> 01:18:51,590
the aldi brothers this is for

2317
01:18:51,590 --> 01:18:51,860
you

2318
01:18:51,860 --> 01:18:55,420
No! No!

2319
01:18:55,420 --> 01:18:55,520
No!

2320
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,400
It's what Sarah always says.

2321
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:13,460
Take a deep breath.

2322
01:19:14,260 --> 01:19:16,060
Relax. You've got this.

2323
01:19:16,460 --> 01:19:17,160
You've got this.

2324
01:19:18,340 --> 01:19:20,480
I think the German names weren't

2325
01:19:20,480 --> 01:19:21,320
throwing me off.

2326
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:22,770
They were actually adding a lot

2327
01:19:22,770 --> 01:19:23,360
of spark.

2328
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,050
So if we can please, if we can

2329
01:19:26,050 --> 01:19:26,960
keep that going.

2330
01:19:27,100 --> 01:19:28,740
We want a veritable list of who's

2331
01:19:28,740 --> 01:19:30,260
who in the German sphere.

2332
01:19:31,460 --> 01:19:32,660
We've had Merkel.

2333
01:19:33,500 --> 01:19:35,130
We're doing this for Adidasler

2334
01:19:35,130 --> 01:19:36,240
of Adidas.

2335
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:37,520
Or Adidas.

2336
01:19:37,860 --> 01:19:39,760
However you want to say it.

2337
01:19:39,820 --> 01:19:41,100
We're doing it for Milli Vanilli.

2338
01:19:43,420 --> 01:19:45,160
Discredited and disgraced Milli

2339
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:48,200
Vanilli are in the paddock as

2340
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:49,420
we speak.

2341
01:19:49,420 --> 01:19:51,460
Ready to do a fucking sing song.

2342
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:52,940
Mimerific special.

2343
01:19:53,440 --> 01:19:53,920
Afterwards.

2344
01:19:54,540 --> 01:19:56,620
In which I'm going to do some mime

2345
01:19:56,620 --> 01:19:57,760
artistry.

2346
01:19:58,280 --> 01:19:59,380
During it I'm going to paint

2347
01:19:59,380 --> 01:20:00,420
myself white.

2348
01:20:00,820 --> 01:20:01,780
And wear one of those French

2349
01:20:01,780 --> 01:20:02,340
shirts.

2350
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:04,940
And mime my way around Milli

2351
01:20:04,940 --> 01:20:06,120
Vanilli.

2352
01:20:06,380 --> 01:20:08,180
Whilst they mime a song.

2353
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:11,690
Then Bernard Langer is going to

2354
01:20:11,690 --> 01:20:13,460
come out with his crazy putter.

2355
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:16,770
And miss a crucial Ryder Cup

2356
01:20:16,770 --> 01:20:17,820
putt.

2357
01:20:19,260 --> 01:20:20,660
Because he has the yips.

2358
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,180
Which is a term for losing your

2359
01:20:24,180 --> 01:20:25,740
bollocks.

2360
01:20:26,900 --> 01:20:27,970
Doesn't mean that he's got a

2361
01:20:27,970 --> 01:20:29,040
bag of yips or anything like

2362
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:29,460
that.

2363
01:20:30,740 --> 01:20:32,120
But Nina Hagen.

2364
01:20:32,260 --> 01:20:32,960
Peter Lang.

2365
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:35,360
Jonathan Fassbender.

2366
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:37,760
We're doing it for Haribo.

2367
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:40,520
The sweet manufacturer.

2368
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:42,060
We're doing it for Kinder.

2369
01:20:42,780 --> 01:20:43,900
We're doing it for Kinder.

2370
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:45,220
We're doing it for Milka.

2371
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:48,380
Dr. Oetker as well.

2372
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:49,140
Who.

2373
01:20:50,060 --> 01:20:51,040
Little known fact.

2374
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:52,880
Is not a fucking doctor.

2375
01:20:53,700 --> 01:20:55,220
He just made pizzas.

2376
01:20:55,900 --> 01:20:57,240
But decided to call himself

2377
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:58,080
doctor.

2378
01:20:58,340 --> 01:20:59,500
And he gets away with it.

2379
01:20:59,540 --> 01:20:59,800
Why?

2380
01:21:00,180 --> 01:21:01,720
Because it's just a brand.

2381
01:21:02,420 --> 01:21:02,680
It's.

2382
01:21:02,820 --> 01:21:03,040
It's.

2383
01:21:03,180 --> 01:21:04,700
It doesn't mean that he's a GP.

2384
01:21:08,700 --> 01:21:09,920
Other Germans.

2385
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:11,560
Kermit the Frog.

2386
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:15,520
Little known fact.

2387
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:18,340
We're doing it for Puma King.

2388
01:21:18,780 --> 01:21:20,680
Dr. Dre and Martin Lawrence.

2389
01:21:21,700 --> 01:21:22,880
Who aren't German.

2390
01:21:23,020 --> 01:21:23,820
I don't know why you're

2391
01:21:23,820 --> 01:21:24,680
suggesting them.

2392
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:26,790
We're not going to do it for

2393
01:21:26,790 --> 01:21:28,400
Kaiser Wilhelm.

2394
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:29,640
We're not going to do it for

2395
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:30,060
any.

2396
01:21:30,140 --> 01:21:31,650
Any German military people or

2397
01:21:31,650 --> 01:21:32,200
Nazis.

2398
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:33,580
So don't mention them.

2399
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,180
That's my John Cleese moment.

2400
01:21:37,180 --> 01:21:38,420
Don't mention the war.

2401
01:21:38,420 --> 01:21:39,320
Or Nazis.

2402
01:21:41,420 --> 01:21:43,040
We're doing it for Oppenheimer.

2403
01:21:43,220 --> 01:21:43,420
Who.

2404
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:44,640
I think was German.

2405
01:21:44,740 --> 01:21:45,380
I'm not sure.

2406
01:21:47,900 --> 01:21:49,020
I think he was.

2407
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:50,400
Maybe he was.

2408
01:21:50,460 --> 01:21:50,640
Yeah.

2409
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:54,920
Just he did all his.

2410
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:56,940
He did his best work for the Yanks.

2411
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:57,260
So.

2412
01:21:58,560 --> 01:21:59,410
Some of his greatest work was

2413
01:21:59,410 --> 01:22:01,400
done for the Americans.

2414
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:02,460
So that's why I think.

2415
01:22:03,100 --> 01:22:04,020
Maybe he's American.

2416
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:04,320
Is he.

2417
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:05,590
Did they make him an honorary

2418
01:22:05,590 --> 01:22:06,220
American.

2419
01:22:06,220 --> 01:22:07,700
I'll have to watch Oppenheimer

2420
01:22:07,700 --> 01:22:08,220
again.

2421
01:22:08,220 --> 01:22:11,220
It just went on too long.

2422
01:22:11,440 --> 01:22:12,880
It was a fantastic film.

2423
01:22:13,100 --> 01:22:14,420
But it was too long.

2424
01:22:15,540 --> 01:22:15,960
And.

2425
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:17,800
I ended up just.

2426
01:22:18,180 --> 01:22:19,410
Zoning out and doing a few

2427
01:22:19,410 --> 01:22:20,140
chores.

2428
01:22:20,300 --> 01:22:21,100
Cleaning the house.

2429
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:22,090
And listening to it on the

2430
01:22:22,090 --> 01:22:23,220
Bluetooth headphones.

2431
01:22:23,220 --> 01:22:23,720
headphones.

2432
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:25,000
Which I know.

2433
01:22:25,140 --> 01:22:26,640
In cinema terms.

2434
01:22:28,220 --> 01:22:29,980
Defeats the purpose of a movie.

2435
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:31,680
You're missing out on some.

2436
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:32,900
Impressive visuals.

2437
01:22:33,060 --> 01:22:33,160
But.

2438
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:35,530
I think once the bomb had been

2439
01:22:35,530 --> 01:22:36,260
done.

2440
01:22:36,420 --> 01:22:37,060
Made and everything.

2441
01:22:37,180 --> 01:22:37,480
I thought.

2442
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:38,860
What was the point of carrying

2443
01:22:38,860 --> 01:22:39,400
on here.

2444
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,040
So I cleaned the house.

2445
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:43,700
And made a fantastic.

2446
01:22:44,700 --> 01:22:45,180
Lunch.

2447
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:46,100
That afternoon.

2448
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:48,860
Let's do it for bread.

2449
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:50,960
Let's do it for pumpernickel.

2450
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:52,800
Okay.

2451
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:55,730
Let's do it for the Klinsman

2452
01:22:55,730 --> 01:22:56,820
drive.

2453
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,070
We can rename it to Klinsman

2454
01:22:59,070 --> 01:22:59,720
drive.

2455
01:23:02,440 --> 01:23:04,280
We're doing it for Philip Lahm.

2456
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:06,520
For Von Braun.

2457
01:23:07,980 --> 01:23:09,320
For the schnitzels.

2458
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:10,800
For the schnitz and giggles.

2459
01:23:11,740 --> 01:23:13,020
For Ralph Schumacher.

2460
01:23:13,540 --> 01:23:14,340
Ramstein.

2461
01:23:15,620 --> 01:23:17,500
And Kellogg's Corn Flakes.

2462
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:20,730
In association with Sigmund

2463
01:23:20,730 --> 01:23:21,860
Freud.

2464
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:28,760
I think we've had Christian Ziga.

2465
01:23:29,300 --> 01:23:30,140
I'm not sure.

2466
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:34,880
Astrobrot.

2467
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:39,440
Don't blame it on the good

2468
01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:41,000
times.

2469
01:23:41,420 --> 01:23:42,440
Don't blame it on the Paul and

2470
01:23:42,440 --> 01:23:42,840
her.

2471
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:44,880
Don't blame it on the Dachshunds.

2472
01:23:45,220 --> 01:23:46,280
Blame it on the schnitzel.

2473
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:51,920
Do it for Aldi.

2474
01:23:55,220 --> 01:23:56,200
Oh look at this.

2475
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:57,280
It's just liquid.

2476
01:23:57,620 --> 01:23:57,960
Liquid.

2477
01:23:58,660 --> 01:23:59,100
Anticipation.

2478
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:00,620
The anticipatory.

2479
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:02,240
Behaviour.

2480
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:05,060
Is settled.

2481
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:06,160
At this stage.

2482
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:07,500
Like the sediment.

2483
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:08,540
At the bottom of a.

2484
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:09,320
Beautiful.

2485
01:24:09,500 --> 01:24:10,680
Beautiful craft brew.

2486
01:24:11,420 --> 01:24:12,080
And right now.

2487
01:24:12,180 --> 01:24:13,150
It's time to go for gold on

2488
01:24:13,150 --> 01:24:13,560
this.

2489
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:14,480
It's the final lap.

2490
01:24:14,740 --> 01:24:15,680
This is where it matters.

2491
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:17,660
I need to smoke out four.

2492
01:24:18,620 --> 01:24:19,060
Badgers.

2493
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:21,300
Who are nestled in the hole.

2494
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:23,140
And I'm in third place.

2495
01:24:23,220 --> 01:24:23,680
It's podium.

2496
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:24,620
But it's not enough.

2497
01:24:24,700 --> 01:24:25,860
We need to take gold on this.

2498
01:24:25,940 --> 01:24:27,110
If we come away with that gold

2499
01:24:27,110 --> 01:24:28,200
championship trove.

2500
01:24:28,620 --> 01:24:29,620
It's all on this.

2501
01:24:29,620 --> 01:24:29,640
It's all on this.

2502
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:30,680
It all rests here.

2503
01:24:30,740 --> 01:24:31,640
We need more Germans.

2504
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:32,300
Please.

2505
01:24:32,740 --> 01:24:34,060
Need more German names.

2506
01:24:35,300 --> 01:24:36,260
For Allianz.

2507
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:38,340
We're doing it for Allianz.

2508
01:24:38,820 --> 01:24:40,740
We're doing it for Schweinsteiger.

2509
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:42,040
For Perlinbacher.

2510
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:45,220
Baskade.

2511
01:24:45,220 --> 01:24:45,300
Baskade.

2512
01:24:46,660 --> 01:24:47,260
Bergheim.

2513
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:48,380
Boris Becker.

2514
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:49,440
Wuppertal.

2515
01:24:50,060 --> 01:24:50,740
Beckenbauer.

2516
01:24:53,940 --> 01:24:55,240
Lothar Matthias.

2517
01:24:56,380 --> 01:24:57,560
Rudolf Diesel.

2518
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:01,300
The IMF.

2519
01:25:02,020 --> 01:25:03,040
Kai Havertz.

2520
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:07,400
It's very soccer heavy at the

2521
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:08,080
moment.

2522
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:09,290
We need something more than

2523
01:25:09,290 --> 01:25:09,700
that.

2524
01:25:11,020 --> 01:25:11,700
Come on.

2525
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:12,160
Come on.

2526
01:25:12,420 --> 01:25:12,800
Come on.

2527
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:14,180
We can't let these guys go.

2528
01:25:14,300 --> 01:25:15,400
Got Beauvoir and Lopez.

2529
01:25:15,820 --> 01:25:17,410
Lopez is really feeling the

2530
01:25:17,410 --> 01:25:18,500
vibe today.

2531
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:20,040
And he's leading the pack.

2532
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,880
With that inimitable charm that

2533
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:24,840
he has on the turns.

2534
01:25:25,700 --> 01:25:27,360
But is it enough as I smoke

2535
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:29,180
that other AMG?

2536
01:25:31,140 --> 01:25:32,060
Lovely stuff.

2537
01:25:32,180 --> 01:25:33,840
And it's just Barry Beamer.

2538
01:25:34,300 --> 01:25:36,220
Mr. Lopez himself up ahead.

2539
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:39,040
This is where legends get made

2540
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:40,440
right here.

2541
01:25:40,820 --> 01:25:41,520
You're joining us.

2542
01:25:41,620 --> 01:25:42,800
Nuremberg GP in the European

2543
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:43,660
Championship.

2544
01:25:43,860 --> 01:25:44,990
Connor Williams behind the

2545
01:25:44,990 --> 01:25:46,330
wheel of his absolute beast

2546
01:25:46,330 --> 01:25:47,080
demon unit.

2547
01:25:49,060 --> 01:25:49,670
He's up against Lopez who's

2548
01:25:49,670 --> 01:25:51,620
slowing him down.

2549
01:25:51,740 --> 01:25:52,930
Trying to throw a bit of

2550
01:25:52,930 --> 01:25:54,700
fucking grime in his gears.

2551
01:25:54,900 --> 01:25:55,630
It's not going to work out

2552
01:25:55,630 --> 01:25:56,080
though.

2553
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:57,990
Because this straight is owned

2554
01:25:57,990 --> 01:25:59,280
by Kirsten Dunst.

2555
01:25:59,620 --> 01:26:01,750
Who's given Connor the go ahead

2556
01:26:01,750 --> 01:26:02,840
to let rip.

2557
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,270
And let it slip into first

2558
01:26:05,270 --> 01:26:06,500
place we go.

2559
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:07,380
This is it.

2560
01:26:07,820 --> 01:26:08,520
This is it.

2561
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:10,200
This is everything he's wanted.

2562
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:11,720
Everything he's worked for.

2563
01:26:11,980 --> 01:26:12,760
All day.

2564
01:26:15,540 --> 01:26:18,320
Pope Benedict sends his regards.

2565
01:26:20,540 --> 01:26:21,760
Pope Benedict.

2566
01:26:22,340 --> 01:26:22,940
Ratzinger.

2567
01:26:23,340 --> 01:26:24,520
Rest in peace buddy.

2568
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,520
God's Rattweiler.

2569
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:27,120
Rattweiler.

2570
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:28,200
Or Rottweiler.

2571
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:35,210
Former questionable youth extracurricular

2572
01:26:35,210 --> 01:26:36,760
activities.

2573
01:26:36,900 --> 01:26:37,700
But who cares?

2574
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:39,120
It's done.

2575
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:41,900
We did it for Thamen.ie.

2576
01:26:42,460 --> 01:26:44,000
We did it for Kraftwerk.

2577
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:45,500
Carson Yanker.

2578
01:26:47,580 --> 01:26:49,380
Avant-Garde Rockers can.

2579
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:53,780
Avant-Garde Rockers can.

2580
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:55,160
Damo Suzuki.

2581
01:26:56,260 --> 01:26:57,260
We did it for you.

2582
01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:58,440
We did it for Noy.

2583
01:26:59,700 --> 01:27:00,820
Here we are.

2584
01:27:01,140 --> 01:27:02,060
There we were.

2585
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:03,280
DHL.

2586
01:27:03,480 --> 01:27:04,600
Birkenstocks.

2587
01:27:05,020 --> 01:27:05,780
Spangler.

2588
01:27:06,180 --> 01:27:07,380
Johnny Schnitzel.

2589
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:09,040
Idlehands.

2590
01:27:09,440 --> 01:27:10,020
Scooter.

2591
01:27:10,340 --> 01:27:11,220
Carl Benz.

2592
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:12,120
Van Halen.

2593
01:27:12,380 --> 01:27:13,320
Claudia Schiefer.

2594
01:27:13,700 --> 01:27:14,520
Heidi Klum.

2595
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:15,800
Birkenhead.

2596
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:16,780
Let's go.

2597
01:27:17,100 --> 01:27:17,940
Esther Platz.

2598
01:27:18,260 --> 01:27:19,620
The boys in Dusseldorf.

2599
01:27:19,940 --> 01:27:20,540
Spangle.

2600
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:21,500
Mercedes.

2601
01:27:22,340 --> 01:27:22,740
Seal.

2602
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:23,660
Rammstein.

2603
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:30,580
We did it.

2604
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:31,780
We did it.

2605
01:27:31,940 --> 01:27:33,310
And we're taking the trophy

2606
01:27:33,310 --> 01:27:34,080
back home.

2607
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:36,560
Thank you very much there.

2608
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:38,320
Do it for Drebin and Jenkins

2609
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:39,280
the monkey.

2610
01:27:40,440 --> 01:27:40,940
Owen Murphy.

2611
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:41,780
Thank you very much.

2612
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:43,400
Have you tried the fine beanage

2613
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:44,960
around Sandiford and Central

2614
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:45,460
Park?

2615
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:46,080
I haven't.

2616
01:27:46,140 --> 01:27:47,530
But I'm going to be going there

2617
01:27:47,530 --> 01:27:47,940
soon.

2618
01:27:48,620 --> 01:27:49,540
And thank you very much.

2619
01:27:51,260 --> 01:27:51,740
Anon.

2620
01:27:51,940 --> 01:27:52,980
Who said, did you see the

2621
01:27:52,980 --> 01:27:54,240
street art of Francis Uncle

2622
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:54,700
Tommy?

2623
01:27:55,860 --> 01:27:57,100
I haven't seen it.

2624
01:27:57,180 --> 01:27:58,140
I have not seen it.

2625
01:27:58,140 --> 01:28:00,860
But hopefully I will see it.

2626
01:28:00,940 --> 01:28:02,010
And they will see it at some

2627
01:28:02,010 --> 01:28:02,460
stage.

2628
01:28:02,580 --> 01:28:04,380
If you could maybe send a link.

2629
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:05,660
Bit of indigestion.

2630
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:07,180
That's nothing.

2631
01:28:07,440 --> 01:28:08,160
That's nothing.

2632
01:28:08,700 --> 01:28:09,760
Johnny Sausage.

2633
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:11,490
Thanks so much for believing me,

2634
01:28:11,490 --> 01:28:12,040
buddy.

2635
01:28:12,700 --> 01:28:13,590
Couldn't have done it without

2636
01:28:13,590 --> 01:28:14,560
your sausages.

2637
01:28:15,440 --> 01:28:16,620
And look.

2638
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:17,820
Whew.

2639
01:28:18,380 --> 01:28:19,120
It's a hot one.

2640
01:28:19,780 --> 01:28:21,120
It really is a hot one in here.

2641
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:24,270
I've still got thermals on from

2642
01:28:24,270 --> 01:28:26,680
the Sub-Zero coffee sojourn

2643
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:27,880
earlier on.

2644
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:29,880
Sweating bullets.

2645
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:31,660
And there we are.

2646
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:32,260
We did it.

2647
01:28:32,420 --> 01:28:33,060
We did it.

2648
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:34,000
We did it.

2649
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:34,970
That's going to be the headline

2650
01:28:34,970 --> 01:28:35,460
tomorrow.

2651
01:28:35,620 --> 01:28:36,860
Just three we did it's.

2652
01:28:37,980 --> 01:28:38,820
Go drove.

2653
01:28:39,620 --> 01:28:40,200
Oh, man.

2654
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:41,480
San Pellegrino.

2655
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:43,080
Donnybrook Fair.

2656
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:45,920
Sponsors are absolutely battering

2657
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:47,730
down the doors to throw more

2658
01:28:47,730 --> 01:28:48,840
money at us.

2659
01:28:51,480 --> 01:28:52,580
And there we have.

2660
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:53,880
Top of the tree.

2661
01:28:55,100 --> 01:28:55,780
Conzini.

2662
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:56,880
William Oney.

2663
01:28:57,220 --> 01:28:58,980
34 total points.

2664
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:01,220
Out of the round.

2665
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,110
Where we managed to get two

2666
01:29:03,110 --> 01:29:04,860
poles and one second.

2667
01:29:05,500 --> 01:29:07,020
Lopez in bits.

2668
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,160
In second place on the podium.

2669
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:10,200
Beauvoir.

2670
01:29:10,860 --> 01:29:12,500
Barely screaming a third.

2671
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:13,460
The rest.

2672
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:14,160
Who cares?

2673
01:29:14,380 --> 01:29:15,100
As I said.

2674
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:16,220
Nobody remembers.

2675
01:29:17,020 --> 01:29:19,380
It was an outstanding slice of

2676
01:29:19,380 --> 01:29:21,600
sheer driving tenacity.

2677
01:29:22,140 --> 01:29:23,340
30,000 credits.

2678
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:24,100
It's not.

2679
01:29:24,140 --> 01:29:24,520
It's not.

2680
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:25,780
It's not that that matters.

2681
01:29:26,020 --> 01:29:27,710
It's the glory of coming first

2682
01:29:27,710 --> 01:29:29,940
in the European Championship.

2683
01:29:30,460 --> 01:29:31,780
And we've got that number one

2684
01:29:31,780 --> 01:29:33,950
bonus ranking credit endowment

2685
01:29:33,950 --> 01:29:36,220
windfall as well coming through.

2686
01:29:36,460 --> 01:29:37,730
Straight into the Deutsche Bank

2687
01:29:37,730 --> 01:29:38,400
with that.

2688
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:40,600
60,000.

2689
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:42,780
And then a gift of a Ford RS.

2690
01:29:42,900 --> 01:29:45,300
A gift of a Chevy Corvette C2.

2691
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:46,300
We've got some.

2692
01:29:46,540 --> 01:29:47,500
What the fuck are these?

2693
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:48,840
Never even seen these look.

2694
01:29:50,460 --> 01:29:51,060
Or you choose one of them and

2695
01:29:51,060 --> 01:29:52,260
you get one.

2696
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:53,560
So we've got the Dodge Challenger.

2697
01:29:53,740 --> 01:29:56,680
It's a 1970 Dodge Challenger as

2698
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:57,400
well.

2699
01:29:57,540 --> 01:29:58,260
Muscle car.

2700
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:00,560
Not really into that sort of

2701
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:02,520
motorsport myself.

2702
01:30:02,700 --> 01:30:04,740
But maybe one day.

2703
01:30:04,740 --> 01:30:06,970
A real thick prime slice of

2704
01:30:06,970 --> 01:30:09,500
American muscle is just being

2705
01:30:09,500 --> 01:30:11,710
cut off of the flank of beef

2706
01:30:11,710 --> 01:30:13,960
that is American cars.

2707
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:16,500
Pure bullet job.

2708
01:30:16,580 --> 01:30:17,880
Is that the Steve McQueen movie?

2709
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:18,160
Is it?

2710
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:18,920
Bullet.

2711
01:30:19,100 --> 01:30:20,340
Is it the car from it?

2712
01:30:20,580 --> 01:30:21,420
Someone's saying bullet.

2713
01:30:21,660 --> 01:30:23,140
Another one says Clint Eastwood.

2714
01:30:23,420 --> 01:30:25,570
Maybe it's a Dukes of Hazard

2715
01:30:25,570 --> 01:30:26,820
scenario.

2716
01:30:27,980 --> 01:30:28,820
We don't know.

2717
01:30:28,940 --> 01:30:29,540
Was bullet...

2718
01:30:29,540 --> 01:30:30,400
Was bullet...

2719
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:31,660
Fucking...

2720
01:30:33,660 --> 01:30:35,000
Was that Clint Eastwood?

2721
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:37,000
Or was that Steve Jobs?

2722
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:37,900
Or...

2723
01:30:37,900 --> 01:30:38,620
Steve McQueen?

2724
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:40,780
Who knows?

2725
01:30:43,540 --> 01:30:44,460
Vanishing point.

2726
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:47,000
It was...

2727
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:47,720
It was McQueen.

2728
01:30:48,340 --> 01:30:49,080
It was McQueen.

2729
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:52,420
No need to watch the replay.

2730
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:53,760
It was fantastic enough.

2731
01:30:53,860 --> 01:30:54,620
It'll live on.

2732
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:56,430
It's scorched into our memories

2733
01:30:56,430 --> 01:30:57,140
forever.

2734
01:30:57,340 --> 01:30:57,900
Collectively.

2735
01:30:58,060 --> 01:30:59,660
We'll all remember this as a

2736
01:30:59,660 --> 01:31:01,500
cultural turning point.

2737
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:03,970
And when we finally realized,

2738
01:31:03,970 --> 01:31:05,000
yeah...

2739
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:05,560
Life...

2740
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:05,880
Life...

2741
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:06,380
Do you know what?

2742
01:31:06,460 --> 01:31:07,900
Life is worth living.

2743
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:10,330
I was a bit doubtful until that

2744
01:31:10,330 --> 01:31:13,160
fucking victory at Nuremberg.

2745
01:31:13,820 --> 01:31:15,000
But the Nuremberg ring.

2746
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:17,590
Thank you very much to Anon and

2747
01:31:17,590 --> 01:31:19,610
the British royal family who've

2748
01:31:19,610 --> 01:31:21,220
just tipped one euro.

2749
01:31:22,300 --> 01:31:23,380
That's brilliant stuff.

2750
01:31:23,440 --> 01:31:24,240
Thank you very much.

2751
01:31:24,940 --> 01:31:25,720
Owen Murphy, have you tried the

2752
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:27,080
fine beanage at Sandiford and

2753
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:27,960
Central Park?

2754
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:29,500
As I said there, Owen, I'll

2755
01:31:29,500 --> 01:31:30,400
check it out.

2756
01:31:30,540 --> 01:31:32,970
Apparently, you've got Bear

2757
01:31:32,970 --> 01:31:33,920
Market.

2758
01:31:34,460 --> 01:31:35,700
You've got Coffee Angel.

2759
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:37,610
You've got a load of reputable

2760
01:31:37,610 --> 01:31:39,500
outlets within a five minute

2761
01:31:39,500 --> 01:31:40,940
walk of each other.

2762
01:31:41,220 --> 01:31:43,050
The only thing is, when you get

2763
01:31:43,050 --> 01:31:45,090
out to Sandiford, it just doesn't

2764
01:31:45,090 --> 01:31:47,220
have, you know, that...

2765
01:31:47,220 --> 01:31:48,140
The building and the

2766
01:31:48,140 --> 01:31:49,660
architecture that the quadrant

2767
01:31:49,660 --> 01:31:50,000
has.

2768
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:51,560
So that's what puts me off, you

2769
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:52,060
know?

2770
01:31:54,180 --> 01:31:54,680
You might say you've beaten the

2771
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:56,480
Nuremberg trial.

2772
01:31:56,700 --> 01:31:58,940
I haven't because I've...

2773
01:31:58,940 --> 01:32:00,380
This is one trial, but I

2774
01:32:00,380 --> 01:32:02,310
consider the Nordschleife to be

2775
01:32:02,310 --> 01:32:03,970
the ultimate trial in and of

2776
01:32:03,970 --> 01:32:04,740
itself.

2777
01:32:05,260 --> 01:32:06,980
So you have to go hard on that.

2778
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:08,140
You have to go Russell Crowe on

2779
01:32:08,140 --> 01:32:08,660
that one.

2780
01:32:09,140 --> 01:32:11,140
And really be ready to...

2781
01:32:11,140 --> 01:32:13,460
To go lights out at the end.

2782
01:32:13,620 --> 01:32:14,520
It's do or die.

2783
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:15,540
It's one of those.

2784
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:18,080
Yates and license plates.

2785
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:19,620
So we exit there.

2786
01:32:19,700 --> 01:32:22,470
Just before we get onto Ivan Yates,

2787
01:32:22,470 --> 01:32:24,970
we'll have a little luck there

2788
01:32:24,970 --> 01:32:26,200
at the cafe.

2789
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:27,730
Let's go back to the cafe, it

2790
01:32:27,730 --> 01:32:28,220
says.

2791
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:29,700
I think Ed Welburn's going to

2792
01:32:29,700 --> 01:32:30,380
be there.

2793
01:32:30,480 --> 01:32:31,570
I think Sarah is going to be

2794
01:32:31,570 --> 01:32:32,040
there.

2795
01:32:32,140 --> 01:32:39,700
Love that music.

2796
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:41,180
Can we have that music with

2797
01:32:41,180 --> 01:32:42,800
some shots of the quadrant,

2798
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:43,500
please?

2799
01:32:45,660 --> 01:32:47,200
Any chance of some shot...

2800
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:48,180
We still need to podium.

2801
01:32:48,180 --> 01:33:00,940
Well, well, well.

2802
01:33:01,940 --> 01:33:05,080
If it isn't the usual suspects.

2803
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:07,740
Thank you so much, Germany.

2804
01:33:09,740 --> 01:33:10,860
Can't believe it.

2805
01:33:10,860 --> 01:33:13,580
I look out there and see a veritable

2806
01:33:13,580 --> 01:33:15,650
feast of German action and

2807
01:33:15,650 --> 01:33:17,760
German people as well.

2808
01:33:18,260 --> 01:33:19,870
Jürgen Klinsmann down there

2809
01:33:19,870 --> 01:33:22,240
doing a dive onto some tarmac.

2810
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:23,740
Hopefully you brought the band-aids

2811
01:33:23,740 --> 01:33:25,010
because that's going to scrape

2812
01:33:25,010 --> 01:33:25,740
and scratch.

2813
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:29,140
And the Little Brothers, Aldi

2814
01:33:29,140 --> 01:33:30,780
and Little Little.

2815
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:34,580
And who else is down there?

2816
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:37,720
Puma King, Adi Dazzler, has

2817
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:39,780
been resurrected and is

2818
01:33:39,780 --> 01:33:42,540
clapping and clapping and

2819
01:33:42,540 --> 01:33:44,760
clapping like a seal.

2820
01:33:45,220 --> 01:33:45,740
Seal!

2821
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:48,580
Who sang Kiss from the Rose.

2822
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:50,300
He is actually there as well.

2823
01:33:50,580 --> 01:33:51,720
I don't know if he's German.

2824
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:54,020
But I tell you who is.

2825
01:33:54,180 --> 01:33:55,120
Mark Morrison.

2826
01:33:55,980 --> 01:33:57,040
Great to see you, buddy.

2827
01:33:57,840 --> 01:33:58,880
Return of the Mac.

2828
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:01,620
Hamburg born and bred.

2829
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:02,620
You wouldn't know it.

2830
01:34:02,660 --> 01:34:03,760
You'd think he was American

2831
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:04,440
from his hit.

2832
01:34:05,060 --> 01:34:06,060
I was going to say hits, but it's

2833
01:34:06,060 --> 01:34:06,440
hit.

2834
01:34:07,260 --> 01:34:08,580
But what a hit it was.

2835
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:10,200
And all the best.

2836
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,230
Is that Heidi Klum down there

2837
01:34:12,230 --> 01:34:13,780
dressed as a squid?

2838
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:16,060
Fantastic stuff.

2839
01:34:16,380 --> 01:34:17,200
Angela Merkel.

2840
01:34:18,180 --> 01:34:19,020
Thanks for coming.

2841
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:20,880
The Merkinator.

2842
01:34:22,060 --> 01:34:23,180
Hansi Flick.

2843
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:24,860
Helmut Cole.

2844
01:34:26,780 --> 01:34:28,000
The Sausage Brothers.

2845
01:34:29,480 --> 01:34:30,620
Scooter there.

2846
01:34:31,580 --> 01:34:34,200
Going absolutely arse over tit.

2847
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:37,020
Donald Trump's granddad.

2848
01:34:37,940 --> 01:34:40,360
Mambo No. 5 by Lou Bega.

2849
01:34:41,420 --> 01:34:42,820
Is going to be ringing out

2850
01:34:42,820 --> 01:34:44,040
tonight.

2851
01:34:45,420 --> 01:34:48,580
And big, big thanks to the Lou

2852
01:34:48,580 --> 01:34:50,500
Dog down there.

2853
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:53,520
And none other than Max Verstappen.

2854
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:56,800
Both of you guys, I honor you

2855
01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:59,740
with my heart and soul.

2856
01:34:59,740 --> 01:35:01,320
And even though you didn't race,

2857
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:02,520
it's great that you took the

2858
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:04,040
place of Beauvoir and Lopez.

2859
01:35:04,780 --> 01:35:06,660
Who were so disgraced.

2860
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:08,680
They weren't even allowed on

2861
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:09,720
the podium.

2862
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:11,490
And instead, a couple of real

2863
01:35:11,490 --> 01:35:12,240
drivers.

2864
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:13,820
Had to take up the mantle.

2865
01:35:15,060 --> 01:35:16,720
I'm about to hit the ice bath

2866
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:18,920
backstage there.

2867
01:35:19,100 --> 01:35:21,340
Wim Hof has brought in a big

2868
01:35:21,340 --> 01:35:22,800
block of ice.

2869
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:24,950
And he's been whittling away at

2870
01:35:24,950 --> 01:35:27,220
it with two miniature ice picks.

2871
01:35:28,220 --> 01:35:30,840
So it's ready for me backstage.

2872
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:33,340
And then we're going to have an

2873
01:35:33,340 --> 01:35:35,840
absolute blast in the sky.

2874
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:38,000
Johnny Ronan's quintessential

2875
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:39,410
sky base hovers above the

2876
01:35:39,410 --> 01:35:40,140
clouds.

2877
01:35:41,420 --> 01:35:42,390
You're not invited, but I'll

2878
01:35:42,390 --> 01:35:44,700
tell you all what went down.

2879
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:47,140
Quick sandwich in your ma's.

2880
01:35:48,060 --> 01:35:49,100
And then we'll be good.

2881
01:35:49,180 --> 01:35:50,240
We'll be right as rain.

2882
01:35:51,020 --> 01:35:51,780
Dr. Oka.

2883
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:53,610
Have you had a pizza in the

2884
01:35:53,610 --> 01:35:54,740
oven ready?

2885
01:35:56,100 --> 01:35:57,320
We're ready to go.

2886
01:35:57,560 --> 01:35:58,340
Ritter sport.

2887
01:35:58,740 --> 01:35:59,640
Let's do this.

2888
01:36:02,340 --> 01:36:02,560
Let's not forget the best

2889
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:05,280
German that ever lived.

2890
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:07,800
Dr. Robotnik.

2891
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:10,660
Love you, buddy.

2892
01:36:11,740 --> 01:36:12,760
Love your work.

2893
01:36:13,660 --> 01:36:14,880
Keep on doing what you're doing

2894
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:16,480
to those hedgehogs.

2895
01:36:17,440 --> 01:36:18,310
And don't worry about the

2896
01:36:18,310 --> 01:36:20,640
animal rights crew and PETA.

2897
01:36:21,420 --> 01:36:22,770
I know you treat those animals

2898
01:36:22,770 --> 01:36:24,810
well in that machine that you

2899
01:36:24,810 --> 01:36:25,480
have.

2900
01:36:25,820 --> 01:36:26,520
All the best.

2901
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:29,800
Love it.

2902
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:31,200
Absolutely love it.

2903
01:36:32,180 --> 01:36:33,220
Have one of those.

2904
01:36:33,220 --> 01:36:37,140
Reason the chocolate chew.

2905
01:36:38,700 --> 01:36:40,100
Reason the chocolate chew.

2906
01:36:42,140 --> 01:36:43,140
Let's do it.

2907
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:44,540
Let's do it.

2908
01:36:52,540 --> 01:36:56,080
There it is.

2909
01:36:56,460 --> 01:36:57,220
There it was.

2910
01:36:57,500 --> 01:36:58,280
Here we are.

2911
01:36:59,020 --> 01:36:59,700
Creamed.

2912
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:01,640
Creamed.

2913
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:03,500
The golds don't stop.

2914
01:37:04,460 --> 01:37:06,420
The trophies keep on coming.

2915
01:37:07,100 --> 01:37:08,240
Do you love it?

2916
01:37:08,620 --> 01:37:09,540
I know I do.

2917
01:37:10,100 --> 01:37:11,260
I know I do.

2918
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:13,080
They're gonna get creamed.

2919
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:19,500
We don't want that.

2920
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:20,480
Maybe that.

2921
01:37:21,900 --> 01:37:22,640
Actually, that's...

2922
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:23,600
Where's the music gone?

2923
01:37:25,480 --> 01:37:27,440
Can we go back to Pret maybe?

2924
01:37:27,540 --> 01:37:28,200
Have some good tunes.

2925
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:34,120
Yeah, lovely.

2926
01:37:34,300 --> 01:37:34,780
Loving it.

2927
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:36,320
Loving it.

2928
01:37:36,580 --> 01:37:37,810
It's always great to be back

2929
01:37:37,810 --> 01:37:38,940
here just outside.

2930
01:37:39,220 --> 01:37:41,480
Pret with our impromptu DJ

2931
01:37:41,480 --> 01:37:42,780
space unit.

2932
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:44,840
These two guys down here.

2933
01:37:45,340 --> 01:37:46,970
Flown in from Jakarta this

2934
01:37:46,970 --> 01:37:47,980
morning.

2935
01:37:48,100 --> 01:37:48,420
I'm paying a lot of money.

2936
01:37:48,420 --> 01:37:48,600
I'm paying a lot of money.

2937
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:48,900
I'm paying a lot of money.

2938
01:37:49,540 --> 01:37:50,520
She's fantastic.

2939
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:52,640
She's great and he's brilliant.

2940
01:37:52,780 --> 01:37:53,400
That little fella.

2941
01:37:55,700 --> 01:37:55,970
Don't know where I've gone

2942
01:37:55,970 --> 01:37:56,940
there.

2943
01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:58,360
I need to move my face please.

2944
01:38:01,440 --> 01:38:02,720
No, I'm not on the screen.

2945
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:05,880
I'm not on the screen.

2946
01:38:07,980 --> 01:38:08,840
Yeah, that'll do.

2947
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:15,210
Thanks very much there to the

2948
01:38:15,210 --> 01:38:18,440
other Jeff.

2949
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:21,820
Your kind, heart and generous

2950
01:38:21,820 --> 01:38:22,640
tip.

2951
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:24,720
Matt Cooper is live streaming

2952
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:26,770
and dishing dirt on Yukonzo as

2953
01:38:26,770 --> 01:38:27,720
we speak.

2954
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:30,610
Saying your name appears 247

2955
01:38:30,610 --> 01:38:33,110
times in the recently released

2956
01:38:33,110 --> 01:38:34,820
Ivan Yates files.

2957
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:36,750
Along with your soon to be

2958
01:38:36,750 --> 01:38:38,990
released appearance on the Joe

2959
01:38:38,990 --> 01:38:40,340
Rogan podcast.

2960
01:38:55,440 --> 01:38:55,920
Okay.

2961
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:00,120
That was the best nightclub in

2962
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:00,660
Dublin.

2963
01:39:00,660 --> 01:39:02,660
Now it's epoxy Pret says Kelzuya.

2964
01:39:03,380 --> 01:39:04,310
Look what they did to my

2965
01:39:04,310 --> 01:39:05,780
beautiful city.

2966
01:39:07,540 --> 01:39:09,160
And the Zurich Droneo.

2967
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:10,880
Coming in for a close up.

2968
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:12,050
It's scanning everyone who's

2969
01:39:12,050 --> 01:39:13,460
watching the stream right now.

2970
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:15,200
And it's got your face and bank

2971
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:15,900
details.

2972
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:24,780
I think we can exit.

2973
01:39:25,860 --> 01:39:26,820
Stage left.

2974
01:39:28,500 --> 01:39:30,620
And open up the Yates box.

2975
01:39:31,480 --> 01:39:32,870
For a media masterclass

2976
01:39:32,870 --> 01:39:34,140
analysis.

2977
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:35,460
Something I've been wanting to

2978
01:39:35,460 --> 01:39:36,560
do for quite some time.

2979
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:47,720
Okay.

2980
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:49,140
We're just going to switch over

2981
01:39:49,140 --> 01:39:49,760
here guys.

2982
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:50,660
Bear with me.

2983
01:39:50,660 --> 01:40:13,740
We should be okay.

2984
01:40:14,260 --> 01:40:15,080
I think.

2985
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:16,220
I'm not sure if we have any

2986
01:40:16,220 --> 01:40:17,540
music still going there.

2987
01:40:18,060 --> 01:40:19,700
Owen Murphy thank you very much

2988
01:40:19,700 --> 01:40:20,820
buddy for the tip.

2989
01:40:20,900 --> 01:40:21,770
If you're looking for a

2990
01:40:21,770 --> 01:40:22,360
quadrant.

2991
01:40:23,300 --> 01:40:23,880
Take a gander.

2992
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:25,980
It's South County Business Park.

2993
01:40:26,980 --> 01:40:28,960
Carmen Hall and Leopardstown.

2994
01:40:29,660 --> 01:40:30,640
Around Sandiford.

2995
01:40:30,780 --> 01:40:32,080
It's an option Connor.

2996
01:40:32,220 --> 01:40:33,560
But do what's best for you.

2997
01:40:33,740 --> 01:40:33,920
Look.

2998
01:40:34,060 --> 01:40:35,140
Thanks very much for the tip

2999
01:40:35,140 --> 01:40:35,980
and the advice.

3000
01:40:36,460 --> 01:40:37,380
I'll check it out.

3001
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:39,620
Now where are we?

3002
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:41,840
A Rocktas Committee video.

3003
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:43,860
Oh we have it there.

3004
01:40:44,020 --> 01:40:44,680
Great stuff.

3005
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:46,110
So hopefully we can get this up

3006
01:40:46,110 --> 01:40:46,820
and run in.

3007
01:40:46,860 --> 01:40:48,280
The audio should be okay.

3008
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:48,840
I think.

3009
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:50,600
Just going to watch how you

3010
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:52,820
handle a situation like this.

3011
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:53,860
I'm sure maybe Tuberty was

3012
01:40:53,860 --> 01:40:55,060
watching this thinking.

3013
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:56,880
What was I doing?

3014
01:40:57,080 --> 01:40:57,320
Having.

3015
01:40:57,760 --> 01:40:59,420
He had Noel Kelly behind him.

3016
01:40:59,460 --> 01:40:59,940
Sitting like.

3017
01:41:00,940 --> 01:41:01,340
Like.

3018
01:41:01,580 --> 01:41:02,180
I don't know.

3019
01:41:02,260 --> 01:41:03,600
Darth Vader behind him.

3020
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:03,880
You know.

3021
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:04,940
And.

3022
01:41:05,100 --> 01:41:05,620
Whereas.

3023
01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:06,280
Yates.

3024
01:41:06,540 --> 01:41:07,840
Just does it on his own.

3025
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:09,160
You know.

3026
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:10,520
He just goes right in.

3027
01:41:10,780 --> 01:41:11,360
For the kill.

3028
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:13,400
No consideration.

3029
01:41:14,440 --> 01:41:15,780
For heirs or graces.

3030
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:17,740
A man.

3031
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:19,120
A mountain.

3032
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:20,100
A titan.

3033
01:41:20,220 --> 01:41:21,360
Against these guys.

3034
01:41:21,980 --> 01:41:22,700
They're out to get him.

3035
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:24,260
Make no mistake.

3036
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:26,340
He handles it with.

3037
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:27,760
Beautiful aplomb.

3038
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:32,800
Just change the audio there.

3039
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:33,680
So we can hear that.

3040
01:41:33,980 --> 01:41:34,780
That's our audio.

3041
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:35,700
Set up there.

3042
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:36,680
Sound.

3043
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:39,020
Multi output device.

3044
01:41:45,020 --> 01:41:45,460
Today.

3045
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:49,100
It's not three hours.

3046
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:49,560
It's.

3047
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:51,280
It says three hours.

3048
01:41:51,440 --> 01:41:52,300
I don't think it is.

3049
01:41:52,380 --> 01:41:52,840
I hope not.

3050
01:41:52,900 --> 01:41:53,680
I don't think I've got three

3051
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:54,020
hours.

3052
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:55,820
The flight to Vegas leaves.

3053
01:41:55,820 --> 01:41:56,840
In about two.

3054
01:41:57,180 --> 01:41:57,520
Fairness.

3055
01:41:57,660 --> 01:41:58,220
Impartiality.

3056
01:41:58,300 --> 01:41:58,980
And objectivity.

3057
01:41:59,220 --> 01:41:59,520
In news.

3058
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:00,620
And current affairs.

3059
01:42:01,460 --> 01:42:02,900
I'd now like to welcome.

3060
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:04,120
Very much welcome.

3061
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:04,440
Mr.

3062
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:05,080
Ivan Yates.

3063
01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:05,500
Of.

3064
01:42:06,260 --> 01:42:06,720
Yeetree.

3065
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:08,160
Infotainment.

3066
01:42:09,220 --> 01:42:09,700
Unlimited.

3067
01:42:10,100 --> 01:42:10,980
To committee room three.

3068
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:11,680
What's that about?

3069
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:12,740
What.

3070
01:42:12,860 --> 01:42:13,440
First off.

3071
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:14,260
What's that about?

3072
01:42:14,340 --> 01:42:15,320
Is that a bit of a dig.

3073
01:42:15,440 --> 01:42:16,360
At Yeet's there.

3074
01:42:18,100 --> 01:42:18,540
And what.

3075
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:20,570
That was one thing I said to

3076
01:42:20,570 --> 01:42:21,260
Ivan.

3077
01:42:21,380 --> 01:42:23,300
Was to not go with Yeetree.

3078
01:42:23,480 --> 01:42:24,720
As the name of your company.

3079
01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:26,280
Because it just has different.

3080
01:42:26,440 --> 01:42:26,700
You know.

3081
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:27,880
Connotations.

3082
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:28,340
I think.

3083
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:29,920
Maybe there was a bit of a.

3084
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:30,980
A laugh at him there.

3085
01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:33,100
From your man.

3086
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:34,340
We're resuming in public

3087
01:42:34,340 --> 01:42:34,960
session.

3088
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:35,800
Is our second.

3089
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:36,940
Public session.

3090
01:42:37,440 --> 01:42:37,880
Today.

3091
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:38,480
Um.

3092
01:42:38,480 --> 01:42:40,860
We will continue.

3093
01:42:40,980 --> 01:42:41,400
Our consideration.

3094
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:42,120
Of challenges.

3095
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:42,880
In the implementation.

3096
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:44,000
Of commission demands.

3097
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:44,680
Code of fairness.

3098
01:42:44,860 --> 01:42:45,460
Impartiality.

3099
01:42:45,500 --> 01:42:46,200
And objectivity.

3100
01:42:46,420 --> 01:42:46,760
In news.

3101
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:47,820
And current affairs.

3102
01:42:48,480 --> 01:42:50,100
I'd now like to welcome.

3103
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:51,360
Very much welcome.

3104
01:42:51,420 --> 01:42:51,660
Mr.

3105
01:42:51,780 --> 01:42:52,300
Ivan Yates.

3106
01:42:52,460 --> 01:42:52,720
Of.

3107
01:42:53,480 --> 01:42:53,940
Yeetree.

3108
01:42:54,820 --> 01:42:55,380
Infotainment.

3109
01:42:55,700 --> 01:42:56,180
It's actually.

3110
01:42:56,440 --> 01:42:57,000
It's actually.

3111
01:42:57,200 --> 01:42:57,760
Yeetree.

3112
01:42:58,540 --> 01:42:58,860
And.

3113
01:42:59,580 --> 01:43:00,060
Entertainment.

3114
01:43:00,420 --> 01:43:01,020
So I don't know why.

3115
01:43:01,100 --> 01:43:01,980
He said yeetree.

3116
01:43:02,260 --> 01:43:03,020
Or you three.

3117
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:04,420
Um.

3118
01:43:05,100 --> 01:43:06,260
But I still think.

3119
01:43:06,260 --> 01:43:07,320
That was a slight.

3120
01:43:07,540 --> 01:43:07,700
You know.

3121
01:43:07,740 --> 01:43:08,520
A little laugh.

3122
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:09,080
He did there.

3123
01:43:10,340 --> 01:43:10,660
Yeah man.

3124
01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:10,960
So.

3125
01:43:11,300 --> 01:43:12,880
I think that was a power move.

3126
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:15,060
In order to kind of.

3127
01:43:15,100 --> 01:43:15,300
You know.

3128
01:43:15,380 --> 01:43:16,060
Cut Yeetree.

3129
01:43:16,060 --> 01:43:17,060
Down to size.

3130
01:43:18,700 --> 01:43:19,100
Before.

3131
01:43:19,260 --> 01:43:19,740
Before he.

3132
01:43:19,900 --> 01:43:20,760
Before we were even.

3133
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:21,500
At the trap.

3134
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:21,920
You know.

3135
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:22,580
Unlimited.

3136
01:43:22,980 --> 01:43:23,880
To committee room three.

3137
01:43:24,300 --> 01:43:24,500
Look.

3138
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:25,120
And Yeetree.

3139
01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:26,600
Has to smile about it there.

3140
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:27,340
You know.

3141
01:43:27,420 --> 01:43:28,620
It's almost as if he's saying.

3142
01:43:29,260 --> 01:43:29,860
Oh yeah.

3143
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:30,400
You're.

3144
01:43:30,860 --> 01:43:31,320
What's that?

3145
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:32,140
Your company is called.

3146
01:43:32,300 --> 01:43:32,500
You.

3147
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:33,120
You three.

3148
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:33,460
Is it?

3149
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:35,440
Station of commission demands.

3150
01:43:35,580 --> 01:43:36,120
Code of fairness.

3151
01:43:36,480 --> 01:43:36,920
Impartiality.

3152
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:37,660
And objectivity.

3153
01:43:37,660 --> 01:43:38,200
In news.

3154
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:39,280
And current affairs.

3155
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:41,580
I'd now like to welcome.

3156
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:42,800
Very much welcome.

3157
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:43,120
Mr.

3158
01:43:43,220 --> 01:43:43,760
Ivan Yates.

3159
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:45,400
Of Yeetree.

3160
01:43:46,220 --> 01:43:46,820
Infotainment.

3161
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:48,380
Unlimited.

3162
01:43:48,780 --> 01:43:49,700
To committee room three.

3163
01:43:50,420 --> 01:43:51,400
You're very welcome.

3164
01:43:51,860 --> 01:43:52,060
Ivan.

3165
01:43:52,420 --> 01:43:52,920
And thanks for.

3166
01:43:53,100 --> 01:43:53,540
Thanks for.

3167
01:43:54,100 --> 01:43:55,340
We're a bit big on the screen

3168
01:43:55,340 --> 01:43:55,840
there.

3169
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:56,800
We might need to.

3170
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:57,830
The format of today's meeting

3171
01:43:57,830 --> 01:43:58,400
is such that.

3172
01:43:58,640 --> 01:43:59,360
I will invite Mr.

3173
01:43:59,440 --> 01:44:00,680
Yates to address the committee.

3174
01:44:01,060 --> 01:44:02,300
Make that a little bit smaller.

3175
01:44:02,500 --> 01:44:03,330
Which will be limited to three

3176
01:44:03,330 --> 01:44:03,780
minutes.

3177
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:04,560
Thereabouts.

3178
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:06,140
As you're probably aware.

3179
01:44:06,220 --> 01:44:07,090
The committee may publish the

3180
01:44:07,090 --> 01:44:07,940
opening statement on this

3181
01:44:07,940 --> 01:44:08,400
webpage.

3182
01:44:08,500 --> 01:44:08,880
Is that agreed?

3183
01:44:09,340 --> 01:44:09,780
Agreed.

3184
01:44:10,460 --> 01:44:11,530
Before we move to today's

3185
01:44:11,530 --> 01:44:12,300
presentation.

3186
01:44:12,500 --> 01:44:13,450
I would like to clarify some

3187
01:44:13,450 --> 01:44:14,610
limitations in relation to

3188
01:44:14,610 --> 01:44:15,920
parliamentary privilege.

3189
01:44:16,460 --> 01:44:17,230
And the practice of the houses

3190
01:44:17,230 --> 01:44:18,800
as regards references that may.

3191
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:19,700
Get me back.

3192
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:20,570
To other persons in their

3193
01:44:20,570 --> 01:44:21,060
evidence.

3194
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:22,320
The evidence of witnesses

3195
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:23,520
physically present.

3196
01:44:23,620 --> 01:44:24,380
Or who give evidence from

3197
01:44:24,380 --> 01:44:25,800
within the parliamentary precincts.

3198
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:26,320
Is protected.

3199
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:27,380
Pursuant to both the

3200
01:44:27,380 --> 01:44:29,000
constitution and statute.

3201
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:30,020
By absolute privilege.

3202
01:44:30,020 --> 01:44:31,440
In respect of the presentation

3203
01:44:31,440 --> 01:44:32,780
you make to the committee.

3204
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:34,230
This means that you have an

3205
01:44:34,230 --> 01:44:35,100
absolute defence.

3206
01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:36,600
Against any defamation action.

3207
01:44:36,740 --> 01:44:37,620
For anything you say at the

3208
01:44:37,620 --> 01:44:38,120
meeting.

3209
01:44:38,780 --> 01:44:39,550
However you're expected not to

3210
01:44:39,550 --> 01:44:40,040
abuse.

3211
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:40,780
Get on with it.

3212
01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:41,480
It is my duty.

3213
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:42,160
Get on with it.

3214
01:44:42,180 --> 01:44:43,240
To ensure that this privilege

3215
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:43,900
is not abused.

3216
01:44:44,500 --> 01:44:45,170
Therefore if your statements

3217
01:44:45,170 --> 01:44:46,490
are potentially defamatory in

3218
01:44:46,490 --> 01:44:47,220
relation to.

3219
01:44:47,220 --> 01:44:48,800
Just so you know.

3220
01:44:49,100 --> 01:44:50,660
I haven't watched this yet.

3221
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:52,800
I only put it on last night.

3222
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:54,160
As I was going to sleep.

3223
01:44:54,900 --> 01:44:55,880
And listened to the first.

3224
01:44:56,100 --> 01:44:56,860
Well the audio.

3225
01:44:57,120 --> 01:44:58,420
And I fell asleep after about

3226
01:44:58,420 --> 01:44:59,380
five minutes.

3227
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:01,280
But from what I could hear.

3228
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:03,040
Yates comes out swinging.

3229
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:04,770
Be directed to discontinue your

3230
01:45:04,770 --> 01:45:05,360
remarks.

3231
01:45:05,480 --> 01:45:07,140
So I didn't see that little dig.

3232
01:45:07,220 --> 01:45:08,220
That your man gave about you

3233
01:45:08,220 --> 01:45:08,580
Tree.

3234
01:45:08,620 --> 01:45:09,480
It is imperative that you

3235
01:45:09,480 --> 01:45:10,800
comply with any such direction.

3236
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:11,800
I can see it now.

3237
01:45:12,260 --> 01:45:12,940
Members are reminded of the

3238
01:45:12,940 --> 01:45:14,220
long-standing parliamentary

3239
01:45:14,220 --> 01:45:14,800
practice.

3240
01:45:15,140 --> 01:45:16,170
To the effect that they should

3241
01:45:16,170 --> 01:45:16,520
not.

3242
01:45:17,060 --> 01:45:17,960
Comment on, criticise or make

3243
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:18,560
charges.

3244
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:19,480
Against the person outside the

3245
01:45:19,480 --> 01:45:19,840
houses.

3246
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:21,440
Or unofficially by name.

3247
01:45:21,500 --> 01:45:22,500
Or in such a way as to make him

3248
01:45:22,500 --> 01:45:22,880
or her.

3249
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:25,460
This player is not great as

3250
01:45:25,460 --> 01:45:26,340
well.

3251
01:45:26,420 --> 01:45:27,280
Because you skip on.

3252
01:45:27,440 --> 01:45:28,500
It skips too far.

3253
01:45:30,260 --> 01:45:31,780
And it's only 480p.

3254
01:45:31,780 --> 01:45:33,700
We don't need.

3255
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:34,660
We can't go higher.

3256
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:36,080
Members will note that the

3257
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:37,020
stakeholder.

3258
01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:38,660
Invited to this session.

3259
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:39,820
Represents a private entity.

3260
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:40,780
And is therefore not

3261
01:45:40,780 --> 01:45:42,180
accountable to the committee.

3262
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:43,080
I'm going to skip.

3263
01:45:43,940 --> 01:45:46,140
As regards to others.

3264
01:45:46,340 --> 01:45:47,600
Training activities.

3265
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:48,200
Here we go.

3266
01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:49,360
Here we go.

3267
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:51,160
Others who do work in this

3268
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:51,880
space.

3269
01:45:52,300 --> 01:45:53,420
Thank you very much there.

3270
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:54,000
The peak.

3271
01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:55,380
The invitation.

3272
01:45:55,420 --> 01:45:56,600
Very very kind of you.

3273
01:45:57,060 --> 01:45:58,180
So it's very much.

3274
01:45:59,180 --> 01:45:59,650
Tommy Schlug has had a mural

3275
01:45:59,650 --> 01:46:01,270
put up somewhere in the Dublin

3276
01:46:01,270 --> 01:46:02,140
Docklands.

3277
01:46:02,220 --> 01:46:02,680
No way.

3278
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:03,960
Could be visited in an early

3279
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:04,540
morning.

3280
01:46:04,660 --> 01:46:04,760
Being.

3281
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:05,480
Fucking hell.

3282
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:06,000
No way.

3283
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:06,860
Appreciate it.

3284
01:46:07,340 --> 01:46:08,900
That you come in.

3285
01:46:09,300 --> 01:46:09,900
You came in.

3286
01:46:10,140 --> 01:46:11,290
And now I ask you to address

3287
01:46:11,290 --> 01:46:12,490
this with your opening

3288
01:46:12,490 --> 01:46:13,320
statement.

3289
01:46:13,480 --> 01:46:13,760
Thank you.

3290
01:46:14,140 --> 01:46:15,060
Thank you chairman.

3291
01:46:15,060 --> 01:46:15,460
Thank you.

3292
01:46:15,460 --> 01:46:16,940
Can you imagine it.

3293
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:18,160
Going up against the government.

3294
01:46:19,060 --> 01:46:19,470
Even though it was an

3295
01:46:19,470 --> 01:46:20,540
invitation.

3296
01:46:22,700 --> 01:46:24,020
His arse is on the line.

3297
01:46:24,100 --> 01:46:25,520
His reputation is on the line.

3298
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:27,880
All eyes on Yates.

3299
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:30,000
He's done the media appearances.

3300
01:46:30,220 --> 01:46:31,410
He did the morning Ireland

3301
01:46:31,410 --> 01:46:32,300
thing on RTE.

3302
01:46:32,440 --> 01:46:32,900
But this.

3303
01:46:33,420 --> 01:46:34,220
This is the big bamboozler

3304
01:46:34,220 --> 01:46:35,000
right here.

3305
01:46:35,380 --> 01:46:36,560
Good evening to you all.

3306
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:38,110
I'm very happy to be here with

3307
01:46:38,110 --> 01:46:39,840
the committee this evening.

3308
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:41,330
I understand as you've just

3309
01:46:41,330 --> 01:46:42,160
alluded to.

3310
01:46:42,260 --> 01:46:43,370
You invited a number of people

3311
01:46:43,370 --> 01:46:44,670
who train politicians for media

3312
01:46:44,670 --> 01:46:45,400
engagement.

3313
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:46,300
To come along.

3314
01:46:46,380 --> 01:46:47,710
But I'm the only one who agreed

3315
01:46:47,710 --> 01:46:48,560
to come along.

3316
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:49,500
That's a pity.

3317
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:50,520
Because we would all benefit

3318
01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:51,160
from hearing.

3319
01:46:51,220 --> 01:46:52,040
Hear a humming there.

3320
01:46:54,140 --> 01:46:55,760
It's just my computer.

3321
01:46:56,180 --> 01:46:57,700
On these issues.

3322
01:46:58,180 --> 01:47:00,080
I'm still flabbergasted.

3323
01:47:00,580 --> 01:47:02,060
At the volume of attention.

3324
01:47:02,500 --> 01:47:03,740
Which has focused on my media

3325
01:47:03,740 --> 01:47:05,240
training activities.

3326
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:06,400
Over the past three weeks.

3327
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:09,160
So it's U3 infotainment.

3328
01:47:09,820 --> 01:47:10,820
Not entertainment.

3329
01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:12,220
I think maybe your man was

3330
01:47:12,220 --> 01:47:13,020
laughing.

3331
01:47:13,500 --> 01:47:15,240
Or he did that kind of cheeky.

3332
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:17,280
Smile at infotainment.

3333
01:47:17,740 --> 01:47:19,200
Because that might be seen in

3334
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:20,820
some circles as less.

3335
01:47:21,460 --> 01:47:23,360
A lesser form of media.

3336
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:24,980
Than you know.

3337
01:47:25,060 --> 01:47:26,200
Hard hitting news.

3338
01:47:26,660 --> 01:47:27,100
But it's.

3339
01:47:27,180 --> 01:47:28,340
It states the case.

3340
01:47:28,860 --> 01:47:29,240
Which.

3341
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:31,020
What Yates is all about.

3342
01:47:31,180 --> 01:47:31,400
It's.

3343
01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:32,800
It's yeah.

3344
01:47:32,980 --> 01:47:34,020
Providing you with.

3345
01:47:34,020 --> 01:47:36,020
A different view.

3346
01:47:36,340 --> 01:47:37,020
Another view.

3347
01:47:37,380 --> 01:47:38,420
Of what's going on.

3348
01:47:38,580 --> 01:47:39,220
And it's to.

3349
01:47:39,220 --> 01:47:39,840
It's to.

3350
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:41,120
Spark debate.

3351
01:47:41,820 --> 01:47:42,720
It's to entertain.

3352
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:43,340
Do you know.

3353
01:47:44,220 --> 01:47:44,520
Which was.

3354
01:47:44,660 --> 01:47:45,240
His whole.

3355
01:47:45,440 --> 01:47:46,260
Raising detra.

3356
01:47:47,260 --> 01:47:47,360
I.

3357
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:49,220
Find it hard to.

3358
01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:50,480
To see why he became.

3359
01:47:50,480 --> 01:47:51,260
Focal point.

3360
01:47:51,460 --> 01:47:52,480
Of such ire.

3361
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:53,720
But it's just.

3362
01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:54,160
That's.

3363
01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:55,080
That's the media.

3364
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:55,960
There was.

3365
01:47:56,060 --> 01:47:56,920
It was a witch hunt.

3366
01:47:57,580 --> 01:47:58,120
Media training.

3367
01:47:58,120 --> 01:47:59,420
Has actually been a small.

3368
01:47:59,560 --> 01:47:59,900
Element.

3369
01:48:00,100 --> 01:48:01,360
Of my commercial activities.

3370
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:02,800
Over the past number of years.

3371
01:48:03,480 --> 01:48:04,180
And media training.

3372
01:48:04,180 --> 01:48:04,900
For politicians.

3373
01:48:04,900 --> 01:48:06,020
Has been even smaller.

3374
01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:07,560
But in the last few weeks.

3375
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:08,500
It seems to have assumed.

3376
01:48:08,740 --> 01:48:10,080
An enormous importance.

3377
01:48:10,540 --> 01:48:10,920
Is this.

3378
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:11,440
Sorry.

3379
01:48:11,580 --> 01:48:11,820
Before.

3380
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:12,560
Sorry for.

3381
01:48:12,780 --> 01:48:13,600
For continually.

3382
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:14,520
Stopping there.

3383
01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:14,880
Anon.

3384
01:48:14,940 --> 01:48:15,940
Thank you very much there.

3385
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:16,440
For the tip.

3386
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:18,380
Here's the link to the mural.

3387
01:48:19,020 --> 01:48:19,660
Great stuff.

3388
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:20,320
I can't.

3389
01:48:20,340 --> 01:48:20,900
I can't believe it.

3390
01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:21,700
I'll check it out in a bit.

3391
01:48:23,580 --> 01:48:24,810
I just don't want to get sidetracked

3392
01:48:24,810 --> 01:48:25,160
here.

3393
01:48:25,220 --> 01:48:26,060
But someone says.

3394
01:48:26,140 --> 01:48:27,760
Is this the leprechaun man?

3395
01:48:28,300 --> 01:48:29,140
It is indeed.

3396
01:48:29,420 --> 01:48:30,300
Just in case you don't know.

3397
01:48:30,300 --> 01:48:31,200
What that means.

3398
01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:32,900
Little blast of it here.

3399
01:48:32,900 --> 01:48:35,220
Leprechaun.

3400
01:48:35,220 --> 01:48:37,000
Leprechaun.

3401
01:48:37,620 --> 01:48:38,720
Leprechaun.

3402
01:48:39,620 --> 01:48:40,380
Leprechaun.

3403
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:42,080
Leprechaun.

3404
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:43,760
Leprechaun.

3405
01:48:43,980 --> 01:48:44,560
Leprechaun.

3406
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:45,480
Leprechaun.

3407
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:47,240
Leprechaun.

3408
01:48:47,460 --> 01:48:48,020
Leprechaun.

3409
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:48,920
Leprechaun.

3410
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:49,700
Leprechaun.

3411
01:48:49,940 --> 01:48:50,600
Leprechaun.

3412
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:51,480
Leprechaun.

3413
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:52,280
Leprechaun.

3414
01:48:52,540 --> 01:48:53,200
Leprechaun.

3415
01:48:53,460 --> 01:48:54,000
Leprechaun.

3416
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:55,060
Who do you actually think you

3417
01:48:55,060 --> 01:48:55,380
are?

3418
01:48:55,440 --> 01:48:55,840
Leprechaun.

3419
01:48:56,040 --> 01:48:56,640
Leprechaun.

3420
01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:57,560
Leprechaun.

3421
01:48:57,800 --> 01:48:58,340
Leprechaun.

3422
01:48:58,420 --> 01:48:59,450
Who do you actually think you

3423
01:48:59,450 --> 01:48:59,740
are?

3424
01:49:00,380 --> 01:49:00,980
Leprechaun.

3425
01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:02,190
Who do you actually think you

3426
01:49:02,190 --> 01:49:02,540
are?

3427
01:49:02,540 --> 01:49:02,700
Leprechaun.

3428
01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:03,560
Leprechaun.

3429
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:04,200
Leprechaun.

3430
01:49:04,220 --> 01:49:05,170
Who do you actually think you

3431
01:49:05,170 --> 01:49:05,460
are?

3432
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:06,120
Leprechaun.

3433
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:08,620
There you have it.

3434
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:09,680
Just in case you weren't aware.

3435
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:11,310
But I mean, I do play it 500

3436
01:49:11,310 --> 01:49:13,040
times every time I stream.

3437
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:14,240
So I don't know how you're not

3438
01:49:14,240 --> 01:49:14,900
aware of it.

3439
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:16,420
Surprised at the level of

3440
01:49:16,420 --> 01:49:18,150
surprise that my work in this

3441
01:49:18,150 --> 01:49:19,620
area has generated.

3442
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:20,260
Good move.

3443
01:49:20,340 --> 01:49:20,760
Good turn.

3444
01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:22,220
I'm only operating on one

3445
01:49:22,220 --> 01:49:23,640
social media myself.

3446
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:24,640
And that is LinkedIn.

3447
01:49:25,700 --> 01:49:26,140
Great.

3448
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:27,660
Great social media.

3449
01:49:27,660 --> 01:49:27,740
Great social media.

3450
01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:28,820
Is media trainer.

3451
01:49:29,440 --> 01:49:30,170
And most people know I'm a

3452
01:49:30,170 --> 01:49:31,440
former politician.

3453
01:49:31,620 --> 01:49:32,940
So it hardly requires an

3454
01:49:32,940 --> 01:49:34,600
enormous leap of imagination

3455
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:36,040
that I might have combined

3456
01:49:36,040 --> 01:49:37,860
these interests at some point.

3457
01:49:38,260 --> 01:49:38,380
Indeed.

3458
01:49:38,380 --> 01:49:39,820
And while I've always kept the

3459
01:49:39,820 --> 01:49:41,410
identity of my training clients

3460
01:49:41,410 --> 01:49:43,170
confidential, my work with Fianna

3461
01:49:43,170 --> 01:49:44,480
Fáil politicians has been

3462
01:49:44,480 --> 01:49:45,920
written about before.

3463
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:49,060
In early 2022, for example,

3464
01:49:49,060 --> 01:49:50,530
John Drennan of the Irish Daily

3465
01:49:50,530 --> 01:49:52,190
Mail wrote about it without any

3466
01:49:52,190 --> 01:49:53,910
input from me, I might add, and

3467
01:49:53,910 --> 01:49:55,400
without much interest from

3468
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:57,580
anyone afterwards, to be honest.

3469
01:49:58,380 --> 01:49:59,210
Media training is something

3470
01:49:59,210 --> 01:50:00,890
that I've been doing for about

3471
01:50:00,890 --> 01:50:01,780
four years.

3472
01:50:02,120 --> 01:50:02,970
And I can elaborate on the

3473
01:50:02,970 --> 01:50:04,300
circumstances of that.

3474
01:50:04,480 --> 01:50:09,240
He's bobbing.

3475
01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:11,240
He's bobbing.

3476
01:50:11,240 --> 01:50:14,040
He's bobbing and weaving.

3477
01:50:14,300 --> 01:50:15,320
He's already in the ring.

3478
01:50:15,420 --> 01:50:16,080
He's swinging.

3479
01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:17,660
He's controlling.

3480
01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:18,560
He's confident.

3481
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:30,340
He's yatesing.

3482
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:32,770
Typically, I either act as a

3483
01:50:32,770 --> 01:50:34,880
guest speaker or as an emcee.

3484
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:37,760
What are the accusations, Sam,

3485
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:40,330
that he should have disclosed

3486
01:50:40,330 --> 01:50:42,830
his work media training with

3487
01:50:42,830 --> 01:50:45,180
your man who, his election

3488
01:50:45,180 --> 01:50:47,620
campaign went tits off.

3489
01:50:47,700 --> 01:50:48,380
Can't remember his name.

3490
01:50:48,440 --> 01:50:48,860
Jim Gavin.

3491
01:50:49,900 --> 01:50:50,860
He traded him.

3492
01:50:50,940 --> 01:50:51,780
He did a couple of hours with

3493
01:50:51,780 --> 01:50:52,060
him.

3494
01:50:52,060 --> 01:50:52,060
He did a couple of hours with

3495
01:50:52,060 --> 01:50:52,060
him.

3496
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:55,660
And the media made shite of it

3497
01:50:55,660 --> 01:50:56,600
all.

3498
01:51:01,540 --> 01:51:01,050
He's his own man, his own

3499
01:51:01,050 --> 01:51:03,160
company.

3500
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:04,410
He wasn't on state media or

3501
01:51:04,410 --> 01:51:06,080
anything like that, you know.

3502
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:11,160
A couple of hours with the Yates

3503
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:16,940
are years in the dojo, says Sam.

3504
01:51:17,020 --> 01:51:18,020
I don't know what that means.

3505
01:51:18,020 --> 01:51:20,960
But I'd say a couple of hours

3506
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:24,100
with the Yates are...

3507
01:51:24,100 --> 01:51:24,340
Oh, yeah.

3508
01:51:24,440 --> 01:51:25,460
So that's like you're doing

3509
01:51:25,460 --> 01:51:26,340
years in the dojo.

3510
01:51:26,460 --> 01:51:26,800
I get you.

3511
01:51:26,900 --> 01:51:29,180
I thought you were saying the

3512
01:51:29,180 --> 01:51:31,400
dojo work would...

3513
01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:31,820
Forget it.

3514
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:32,040
Forget it.

3515
01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:33,220
With a real world experience of

3516
01:51:33,220 --> 01:51:34,600
both the economy and politics.

3517
01:51:34,660 --> 01:51:35,800
Yates in the dojo.

3518
01:51:37,220 --> 01:51:37,580
Actually.

3519
01:51:37,680 --> 01:51:38,880
A guaranteed mood killer of

3520
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:40,220
that environment would have

3521
01:51:40,220 --> 01:51:41,020
been...

3522
01:51:41,020 --> 01:51:42,900
Imagine that could be a new

3523
01:51:42,900 --> 01:51:44,240
thing, maybe.

3524
01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:46,440
Some sort of zen-like Tai Chi.

3525
01:51:47,300 --> 01:51:48,760
And combat as well.

3526
01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:49,380
He's 66.

3527
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:50,480
But I don't...

3528
01:51:50,480 --> 01:51:51,680
I'd say he could still throw a

3529
01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:52,080
slap.

3530
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:52,620
Look at him.

3531
01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:54,160
Fucking...

3532
01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:55,020
He's a big guy.

3533
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:56,890
During recent months of the

3534
01:51:56,890 --> 01:51:58,800
presidential election.

3535
01:51:58,980 --> 01:52:00,560
Imagine getting slapped with

3536
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:01,560
one of those hands.

3537
01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:07,340
Massive hands.

3538
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:08,840
Hanleyman.

3539
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:10,600
Hanleyman.

3540
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:12,980
Thank you very much there, Hanleyman.

3541
01:52:13,540 --> 01:52:15,480
...are being properly processed

3542
01:52:15,480 --> 01:52:16,100
there.

3543
01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:17,180
I do not believe it's the

3544
01:52:17,180 --> 01:52:18,630
function of this committee to

3545
01:52:18,630 --> 01:52:19,370
carry out a parallel

3546
01:52:19,370 --> 01:52:20,400
investigation...

3547
01:52:21,340 --> 01:52:22,060
Parallelogram.

3548
01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:23,570
...and the outcome of that due

3549
01:52:23,570 --> 01:52:24,040
process.

3550
01:52:24,460 --> 01:52:25,650
I don't propose this evening to

3551
01:52:25,650 --> 01:52:27,020
give further answers to my

3552
01:52:27,020 --> 01:52:29,260
perspectives on these matters...

3553
01:52:29,260 --> 01:52:30,490
...other than a lengthy

3554
01:52:30,490 --> 01:52:32,440
interview I had with Dave McCullough...

3555
01:52:32,440 --> 01:52:33,750
...and RT Today programme on

3556
01:52:33,750 --> 01:52:34,700
the 10th of November.

3557
01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:36,190
However, I want to make it

3558
01:52:36,190 --> 01:52:37,710
clear that I'm available to

3559
01:52:37,710 --> 01:52:39,520
commission them on...

3560
01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:40,380
...if they desire it.

3561
01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:41,570
As always, it's open to any

3562
01:52:41,570 --> 01:52:43,020
member of the public...

3563
01:52:43,020 --> 01:52:44,050
...and this happened throughout

3564
01:52:44,050 --> 01:52:44,760
my broadcasting career.

3565
01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:46,860
There were complaints all the

3566
01:52:46,860 --> 01:52:47,480
time.

3567
01:52:47,480 --> 01:52:48,680
If people act...

3568
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:49,760
...said that I did not act with

3569
01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:50,380
fairness...

3570
01:52:50,380 --> 01:52:52,490
Thank you very much there to

3571
01:52:52,490 --> 01:52:53,820
Schlug Mural.

3572
01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:54,980
And it's another link.

3573
01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:55,940
Do you know what?

3574
01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:57,340
I'm going to save my...

3575
01:52:57,340 --> 01:52:58,380
I'm going to save it until I've

3576
01:52:58,380 --> 01:52:59,480
finished because...

3577
01:53:00,300 --> 01:53:01,320
...it sounds fantastic.

3578
01:53:01,540 --> 01:53:02,320
It sounds incredible.

3579
01:53:03,220 --> 01:53:03,840
And if anything, we'll put a

3580
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:05,440
spring in that man's step.

3581
01:53:05,860 --> 01:53:06,930
We'll be hearing something like

3582
01:53:06,930 --> 01:53:07,840
that, you know.

3583
01:53:08,660 --> 01:53:10,380
Let me just continue on with

3584
01:53:10,380 --> 01:53:13,040
the Yates Media Masterclass

3585
01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:13,900
here.

3586
01:53:14,220 --> 01:53:15,800
Previously, that was the BAI.

3587
01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:17,000
This is kind of a...

3588
01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:18,680
This is an education.

3589
01:53:19,740 --> 01:53:20,660
You know, in how to handle the

3590
01:53:20,660 --> 01:53:21,400
demons.

3591
01:53:23,380 --> 01:53:23,720
As I said this morning, you

3592
01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:25,720
know, it was...

3593
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:27,350
It was like watching someone

3594
01:53:27,350 --> 01:53:29,000
just turn on a tap...

3595
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:31,700
...and the water of knowledge,

3596
01:53:31,700 --> 01:53:34,000
of power, of confidence...

3597
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:36,000
...and of competency...

3598
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:38,900
...flowed through that spigot.

3599
01:53:39,900 --> 01:53:41,030
And it didn't stop from the

3600
01:53:41,030 --> 01:53:42,780
moment he starts.

3601
01:53:43,140 --> 01:53:44,310
I'm interested to see how it

3602
01:53:44,310 --> 01:53:45,460
develops, of course.

3603
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:47,410
Because I fell asleep around

3604
01:53:47,410 --> 01:53:48,340
about now.

3605
01:53:48,540 --> 01:53:50,160
None, I believe, were upheld.

3606
01:53:50,580 --> 01:53:51,710
However, with five decades

3607
01:53:51,710 --> 01:53:53,480
personal experience...

3608
01:53:53,480 --> 01:53:54,560
He's not filibustering.

3609
01:53:55,060 --> 01:53:56,340
He's not filibustering.

3610
01:53:56,340 --> 01:53:56,960
...and commentating.

3611
01:53:57,360 --> 01:53:58,160
I'm happy to...

3612
01:53:58,160 --> 01:53:59,080
You've got that one wrong.

3613
01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:01,320
...any general insights into

3614
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:02,860
how programs are made...

3615
01:54:02,860 --> 01:54:04,510
...with editorial production

3616
01:54:04,510 --> 01:54:05,220
teams...

3617
01:54:05,220 --> 01:54:05,940
...and the role of the

3618
01:54:05,940 --> 01:54:06,360
presenter.

3619
01:54:06,840 --> 01:54:08,340
Certainly, I'm happy to explain...

3620
01:54:08,340 --> 01:54:10,430
...the modus operandi of media

3621
01:54:10,430 --> 01:54:11,880
training and coaching...

3622
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:12,460
...and what it does...

3623
01:54:12,460 --> 01:54:13,860
Modus operandi.

3624
01:54:14,060 --> 01:54:14,880
...I'm quite happy to discuss

3625
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:15,160
that.

3626
01:54:15,500 --> 01:54:16,580
In relation to my various roles,

3627
01:54:16,580 --> 01:54:17,340
I feel...

3628
01:54:17,980 --> 01:54:19,820
...I must assert my bona fides.

3629
01:54:20,060 --> 01:54:20,720
I have always acted in good

3630
01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:21,340
faith...

3631
01:54:21,340 --> 01:54:23,750
...in discharging every and any

3632
01:54:23,750 --> 01:54:24,760
role...

3633
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:26,410
Have you ever asserted your

3634
01:54:26,410 --> 01:54:27,760
bona fides...

3635
01:54:28,480 --> 01:54:30,220
...in a high-power pressure

3636
01:54:30,220 --> 01:54:31,920
environment...

3637
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:33,120
...boardroom grilling?

3638
01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:35,560
You know, to have...

3639
01:54:35,560 --> 01:54:36,760
...just to have the confidence...

3640
01:54:37,420 --> 01:54:38,540
...to be able to say that.

3641
01:54:38,540 --> 01:54:52,880
Fully compliant.

3642
01:54:57,100 --> 01:54:59,220
Exactly.

3643
01:54:59,220 --> 01:55:08,520
Love it.

3644
01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:12,030
Shame about the microphone on

3645
01:55:12,030 --> 01:55:13,700
that, bud.

3646
01:55:20,040 --> 01:55:20,680
Alliteration.

3647
01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:35,210
OBM says, Terry prone is

3648
01:55:35,210 --> 01:55:35,960
cheering.

3649
01:55:36,180 --> 01:55:37,220
But the thing is...

3650
01:55:37,220 --> 01:55:39,190
...nobody is advising Yates on

3651
01:55:39,190 --> 01:55:39,680
this.

3652
01:55:39,780 --> 01:55:40,880
He advises himself.

3653
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:42,050
There's no communications

3654
01:55:42,050 --> 01:55:42,740
clinic here.

3655
01:55:42,940 --> 01:55:44,240
There is no PR spin.

3656
01:55:44,360 --> 01:55:45,320
There's no Q4.

3657
01:55:45,940 --> 01:55:47,080
It's just...

3658
01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:47,920
...total...

3659
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:49,240
...unadulterated...

3660
01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:49,660
...Yates.

3661
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:51,460
The man's an island.

3662
01:55:52,340 --> 01:55:52,580
Okay.

3663
01:55:54,500 --> 01:55:55,460
Yates Island.

3664
01:55:56,120 --> 01:55:57,250
...clicks across every walk of

3665
01:55:57,250 --> 01:55:57,700
life.

3666
01:55:58,440 --> 01:55:59,000
Relationships.

3667
01:55:59,160 --> 01:55:59,500
Family.

3668
01:55:59,860 --> 01:56:00,420
Friendships.

3669
01:56:00,580 --> 01:56:01,060
Political.

3670
01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:02,280
Shared experiences.

3671
01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:02,980
Financial.

3672
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:04,660
Can we police them all?

3673
01:56:05,100 --> 01:56:06,340
Do we want to drown our legacy

3674
01:56:06,340 --> 01:56:07,360
media...

3675
01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:07,860
...in more and more...

3676
01:56:07,860 --> 01:56:08,540
Oh, that's not good.

3677
01:56:09,060 --> 01:56:09,500
...relations.

3678
01:56:09,500 --> 01:56:10,180
Rules and protocols.

3679
01:56:10,340 --> 01:56:11,440
Or do we want to trust people...

3680
01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:12,040
That's not good.

3681
01:56:12,120 --> 01:56:13,330
...to manage reasonable

3682
01:56:13,330 --> 01:56:14,780
situations reasonably...

3683
01:56:14,780 --> 01:56:16,620
...and to trust their audiences...

3684
01:56:16,620 --> 01:56:17,620
...to make up their own mind.

3685
01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:19,150
Finally, as regards this

3686
01:56:19,150 --> 01:56:20,560
committee's...

3687
01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:21,770
...consideration of future

3688
01:56:21,770 --> 01:56:22,640
legislation...

3689
01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:23,340
...regulation...

3690
01:56:23,340 --> 01:56:24,560
...and the policy of the media.

3691
01:56:25,100 --> 01:56:26,780
I note you are deliberating...

3692
01:56:26,780 --> 01:56:28,200
...the Broadcasting Amendment

3693
01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:28,800
Bill...

3694
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:30,500
...2025 and inter-Alia...

3695
01:56:30,500 --> 01:56:31,560
...the establishment of a

3696
01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:32,420
register of interest.

3697
01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:33,240
Inter-Alia.

3698
01:56:33,240 --> 01:56:35,240
In all future roles, Chairman...

3699
01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:36,580
...I will, of course, abide...

3700
01:56:36,580 --> 01:56:37,850
...by any prevailing

3701
01:56:37,850 --> 01:56:39,120
regulations that apply.

3702
01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:41,020
I understand, however...

3703
01:56:41,020 --> 01:56:41,780
So notice...

3704
01:56:41,780 --> 01:56:43,440
...notice the tone, okay?

3705
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:45,520
He came out swinging...

3706
01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:49,620
...and now it's...

3707
01:56:49,620 --> 01:56:50,520
...it's...

3708
01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:52,160
...transcended into a...

3709
01:56:52,160 --> 01:56:53,020
...a sort of...

3710
01:56:53,020 --> 01:56:53,520
...empathetic...

3711
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:55,520
...sympathetic tone...

3712
01:56:56,120 --> 01:56:57,520
...with the Grillmeisters...

3713
01:56:58,240 --> 01:56:59,440
...surrounding him.

3714
01:57:00,260 --> 01:57:00,940
So it's...

3715
01:57:00,940 --> 01:57:02,560
...it's a great twist in the

3716
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:03,020
tale.

3717
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:04,360
It's...

3718
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:05,920
...it's laying the foundations...

3719
01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:06,520
...for a hard slog...

3720
01:57:07,480 --> 01:57:08,520
...where it's also...

3721
01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:09,520
...drawing the dragons...

3722
01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:11,520
...into your manifold...

3723
01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:12,180
...and saying...

3724
01:57:12,180 --> 01:57:12,680
...yeah, you...

3725
01:57:12,680 --> 01:57:14,180
...you breathe fire...

3726
01:57:14,180 --> 01:57:15,180
...but I have a shield...

3727
01:57:15,180 --> 01:57:16,280
...and also...

3728
01:57:16,280 --> 01:57:17,180
...I can breathe fire back...

3729
01:57:17,820 --> 01:57:18,780
...why don't we just...

3730
01:57:18,780 --> 01:57:19,820
...warm this place up...

3731
01:57:19,820 --> 01:57:21,500
...with our fire together...

3732
01:57:21,500 --> 01:57:21,840
...do you know?

3733
01:57:22,940 --> 01:57:23,400
Let's...

3734
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:24,460
...let's see how it goes here.

3735
01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:25,180
...the RT register...

3736
01:57:25,980 --> 01:57:26,880
...in the context of...

3737
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:27,820
...the Data Protection

3738
01:57:27,820 --> 01:57:28,540
Commission...

3739
01:57:28,540 --> 01:57:29,180
...and GDPR...

3740
01:57:29,820 --> 01:57:30,680
...to the extent...

3741
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:31,280
...that there's been...

3742
01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:32,180
...no personal details revealed...

3743
01:57:32,980 --> 01:57:33,180
...thank you very much...

3744
01:57:33,180 --> 01:57:35,180
...yatesing in Central Park...

3745
01:57:35,180 --> 01:57:36,180
...very, very kind of...

3746
01:57:36,180 --> 01:57:38,180
...and master yating...

3747
01:57:38,180 --> 01:57:39,180
...thank you very much...

3748
01:57:39,180 --> 01:57:40,550
...instead of controlling hate

3749
01:57:40,550 --> 01:57:41,180
speech...

3750
01:57:41,180 --> 01:57:42,180
...it could limit free speech...

3751
01:57:42,780 --> 01:57:44,180
...the reality is...

3752
01:57:44,180 --> 01:57:45,180
...that people who express...

3753
01:57:45,740 --> 01:57:46,180
...strong opinions...

3754
01:57:46,700 --> 01:57:47,180
...on topics such as...

3755
01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:48,180
...migration...

3756
01:57:48,900 --> 01:57:49,180
...Donald Trump...

3757
01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:51,260
...the woke agenda...

3758
01:57:51,260 --> 01:57:52,180
...and the United States...

3759
01:57:52,180 --> 01:57:53,000
...don't conform...

3760
01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:54,180
...to a mainstream...

3761
01:57:54,180 --> 01:57:55,180
...media consensus...

3762
01:57:55,780 --> 01:57:56,980
...a sanitised...

3763
01:57:56,980 --> 01:57:58,180
...politically correct...

3764
01:57:58,180 --> 01:57:59,180
...media...

3765
01:57:59,180 --> 01:57:59,720
...limits the national

3766
01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:00,180
conversation...

3767
01:58:01,180 --> 01:58:03,180
...he's going hard...

3768
01:58:03,180 --> 01:58:04,180
...he's going very hard...

3769
01:58:04,180 --> 01:58:04,880
...he's...

3770
01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:06,080
...he's telling them stuff...

3771
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:07,180
...that they don't want to hear...

3772
01:58:07,180 --> 01:58:08,180
...could widen the gap...

3773
01:58:08,180 --> 01:58:09,180
...between ordinary...

3774
01:58:09,180 --> 01:58:09,180
...people...

3775
01:58:09,980 --> 01:58:10,180
...and the Beltway...

3776
01:58:10,940 --> 01:58:12,180
...a national echo chamber...

3777
01:58:12,700 --> 01:58:14,040
...is one of the greatest...

3778
01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:14,180
...drivers...

3779
01:58:14,740 --> 01:58:16,020
...of alternative media...

3780
01:58:16,020 --> 01:58:17,180
...thank you Mr Chairman...

3781
01:58:17,180 --> 01:58:18,180
...and I look forward...

3782
01:58:18,180 --> 01:58:19,540
...to the committee's questions...

3783
01:58:19,540 --> 01:58:20,320
...he's not sweating...

3784
01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:21,180
...thank you very much...

3785
01:58:21,180 --> 01:58:21,640
...um...

3786
01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:23,040
...little bit more time there...

3787
01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:23,500
...just to...

3788
01:58:23,500 --> 01:58:24,180
...get through that...

3789
01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:25,180
...um...

3790
01:58:25,180 --> 01:58:25,720
...bit of a dig...

3791
01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:26,680
...and now we will...

3792
01:58:26,680 --> 01:58:27,480
...go to...

3793
01:58:27,480 --> 01:58:27,980
...our...

3794
01:58:27,980 --> 01:58:28,980
...committee members...

3795
01:58:28,980 --> 01:58:29,520
...um...

3796
01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:30,520
...which member will have...

3797
01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:31,520
...seven minutes...

3798
01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:32,520
...and the first one...

3799
01:58:32,520 --> 01:58:33,520
...is Senator Carrot O'Hearn...

3800
01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:34,520
...uh...

3801
01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:35,520
...thanks very much...

3802
01:58:35,520 --> 01:58:35,920
...chair...

3803
01:58:35,920 --> 01:58:36,520
...and can I welcome...

3804
01:58:37,060 --> 01:58:37,740
...Mr Yates...

3805
01:58:37,740 --> 01:58:38,700
...to the committee...

3806
01:58:38,700 --> 01:58:39,520
...and just acknowledge...

3807
01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:41,020
...that you agreed to come...

3808
01:58:41,020 --> 01:58:41,880
...which wasn't the case...

3809
01:58:41,880 --> 01:58:42,260
...with all...

3810
01:58:42,260 --> 01:58:43,120
...obviously as the chairman

3811
01:58:43,120 --> 01:58:43,520
said...

3812
01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:43,780
...some...

3813
01:58:43,780 --> 01:58:44,520
...some...

3814
01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:45,620
...don't have the remit...

3815
01:58:45,620 --> 01:58:46,360
...but some do...

3816
01:58:46,360 --> 01:58:47,300
...and chose not to come...

3817
01:58:47,300 --> 01:58:48,420
...so just to thank...

3818
01:58:48,420 --> 01:58:49,580
...to thank you for that...

3819
01:58:49,580 --> 01:58:50,180
...in the interest...

3820
01:58:50,180 --> 01:58:50,520
...and transparency...

3821
01:58:51,160 --> 01:58:51,380
...and...

3822
01:58:51,380 --> 01:58:52,380
...somebody said...

3823
01:58:52,380 --> 01:58:52,680
...he's the most...

3824
01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:54,380
...establishment guy...

3825
01:58:54,380 --> 01:58:54,560
...ever...

3826
01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:54,840
...I mean...

3827
01:58:54,840 --> 01:58:55,760
...I don't think so...

3828
01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:56,100
...he...

3829
01:58:56,100 --> 01:58:57,200
...he complete...

3830
01:58:57,200 --> 01:58:58,620
...he's the alternative...

3831
01:58:58,620 --> 01:59:00,000
...Yates is the alternative...

3832
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:00,380
...medium...

3833
01:59:00,380 --> 01:59:01,500
...but...

3834
01:59:01,500 --> 01:59:02,580
...and you don't like that...

3835
01:59:02,580 --> 01:59:02,960
...I think...

3836
01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:03,660
...I think that...

3837
01:59:03,660 --> 01:59:04,380
...that irks you...

3838
01:59:04,380 --> 01:59:05,380
...do you know...

3839
01:59:05,380 --> 01:59:06,380
...and it irks...

3840
01:59:06,380 --> 01:59:07,380
...a lot of people...

3841
01:59:07,380 --> 01:59:08,380
...is...

3842
01:59:08,380 --> 01:59:09,580
...my mother...

3843
01:59:09,580 --> 01:59:10,240
...served with you...

3844
01:59:10,240 --> 01:59:10,840
...in parliament...

3845
01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:11,800
...at the same time...

3846
01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:13,680
...I've never had training...

3847
01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:14,160
...with you...

3848
01:59:14,160 --> 01:59:14,970
...and I think I've only met

3849
01:59:14,970 --> 01:59:15,380
you...

3850
01:59:15,380 --> 01:59:15,970
...once since I've been a

3851
01:59:15,970 --> 01:59:16,380
senator...

3852
01:59:16,380 --> 01:59:17,380
...and that was on primetime...

3853
01:59:17,380 --> 01:59:18,180
...the night...

3854
01:59:18,180 --> 01:59:20,220
...he's a rebel outsider...

3855
01:59:20,220 --> 01:59:20,800
...um...

3856
01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:22,060
...my first question is...

3857
01:59:22,060 --> 01:59:23,580
...did you receive training

3858
01:59:23,580 --> 01:59:24,560
today...

3859
01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:25,340
...for today...

3860
01:59:25,340 --> 01:59:25,980
...no...

3861
01:59:25,980 --> 01:59:27,460
...I'm self-trained...

3862
01:59:27,460 --> 01:59:28,380
...why...

3863
01:59:28,380 --> 01:59:29,160
...why not...

3864
01:59:29,160 --> 01:59:30,000
...great...

3865
01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:30,460
...that's exactly...

3866
01:59:30,460 --> 01:59:32,120
...because I am a trainer...

3867
01:59:32,120 --> 01:59:32,460
...but...

3868
01:59:32,460 --> 01:59:32,680
...and...

3869
01:59:32,680 --> 01:59:33,160
...and I...

3870
01:59:33,160 --> 01:59:33,760
...I believe...

3871
01:59:33,760 --> 01:59:34,080
...if I...

3872
01:59:34,080 --> 01:59:35,460
...if I believe in my training...

3873
01:59:35,460 --> 01:59:36,560
...I believe in applying it...

3874
01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:38,220
...to what I say and do...

3875
01:59:38,220 --> 01:59:38,580
...if...

3876
01:59:38,580 --> 01:59:38,900
...if...

3877
01:59:38,900 --> 01:59:39,380
...if...

3878
01:59:39,380 --> 01:59:40,580
...if your case...

3879
01:59:40,580 --> 01:59:41,640
...for your...

3880
01:59:41,640 --> 01:59:43,180
...profession that you do...

3881
01:59:43,180 --> 01:59:43,960
...is...

3882
01:59:43,960 --> 01:59:44,800
...people need...

3883
01:59:44,800 --> 01:59:45,340
...training...

3884
01:59:45,340 --> 01:59:46,000
...needs...

3885
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:46,700
...needs...

3886
01:59:46,700 --> 01:59:46,960
...needs...

3887
01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:47,780
...needs to be advised...

3888
01:59:47,780 --> 01:59:48,570
...on what questions might be

3889
01:59:48,570 --> 01:59:48,960
asked...

3890
01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:50,860
...is it...

3891
01:59:50,860 --> 01:59:51,920
...is it not for you that...

3892
01:59:51,920 --> 01:59:53,360
...you don't need that yourself...

3893
01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:54,420
...personally that you're...

3894
01:59:54,420 --> 01:59:55,700
...you're good enough to do it...

3895
01:59:55,700 --> 01:59:56,520
...without any training...

3896
01:59:56,520 --> 01:59:56,840
...but...

3897
01:59:56,840 --> 01:59:58,020
...I would hope so...

3898
01:59:58,020 --> 01:59:58,340
...uh...

3899
01:59:58,340 --> 01:59:58,780
...but...

3900
01:59:58,780 --> 01:59:59,940
...I would say that...

3901
01:59:59,940 --> 02:00:00,400
...uh...

3902
02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:01,560
...there would be people...

3903
02:00:01,560 --> 02:00:01,580
...in this...

3904
02:00:01,580 --> 02:00:01,580
...in this...

3905
02:00:01,580 --> 02:00:02,480
...in this...

3906
02:00:02,480 --> 02:00:03,140
...fear...

3907
02:00:03,140 --> 02:00:03,700
...that I would...

3908
02:00:03,700 --> 02:00:04,100
...I would...

3909
02:00:04,100 --> 02:00:04,860
...I would text them...

3910
02:00:04,860 --> 02:00:06,160
...and ask them any guidance...

3911
02:00:06,160 --> 02:00:06,660
...or advice...

3912
02:00:06,660 --> 02:00:07,960
...because I actually...

3913
02:00:07,960 --> 02:00:09,620
...in my days as minister...

3914
02:00:09,620 --> 02:00:10,440
...I have been before...

3915
02:00:10,440 --> 02:00:11,700
...an a ROCTUS committee...

3916
02:00:11,700 --> 02:00:12,060
...uh...

3917
02:00:12,060 --> 02:00:13,110
...I haven't been in this

3918
02:00:13,110 --> 02:00:13,740
format...

3919
02:00:13,740 --> 02:00:14,060
...and...

3920
02:00:14,060 --> 02:00:15,740
...I always take advice...

3921
02:00:15,740 --> 02:00:16,340
...from everybody...

3922
02:00:16,340 --> 02:00:16,660
...but...

3923
02:00:16,660 --> 02:00:17,440
...have I had any formal

3924
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:17,960
training...

3925
02:00:17,960 --> 02:00:18,520
...for today...

3926
02:00:18,520 --> 02:00:19,060
...no...

3927
02:00:19,060 --> 02:00:20,420
...you said...

3928
02:00:20,420 --> 02:00:21,240
...and you touched on...

3929
02:00:21,240 --> 02:00:22,040
...in your interview...

3930
02:00:22,040 --> 02:00:23,380
...and today with Dave McCulloch...

3931
02:00:23,380 --> 02:00:24,620
...that you have a golden rule...

3932
02:00:24,620 --> 02:00:26,240
...which is client confidentiality...

3933
02:00:26,240 --> 02:00:28,340
...but can you see the conflict...

3934
02:00:28,340 --> 02:00:30,840
...in the public's perception...

3935
02:00:30,840 --> 02:00:31,740
...that your...

3936
02:00:31,740 --> 02:00:33,210
...adherence to client

3937
02:00:33,210 --> 02:00:34,580
confidentiality...

3938
02:00:34,580 --> 02:00:35,580
...has...

3939
02:00:35,580 --> 02:00:37,140
...become an issue for them...

3940
02:00:37,140 --> 02:00:38,100
...in terms of confidence...

3941
02:00:38,100 --> 02:00:38,960
...in what you're saying...

3942
02:00:38,960 --> 02:00:40,420
...is your personal belief...

3943
02:00:40,420 --> 02:00:41,460
...or a belief in people...

3944
02:00:41,460 --> 02:00:42,340
...that you represent...

3945
02:00:42,340 --> 02:00:44,140
...I'm always open...

3946
02:00:44,140 --> 02:00:45,380
...to everyone's point of view...

3947
02:00:45,380 --> 02:00:45,960
...I'm not...

3948
02:00:45,960 --> 02:00:46,720
...er...

3949
02:00:46,720 --> 02:00:47,600
...inured from that...

3950
02:00:47,600 --> 02:00:48,740
...in any way...

3951
02:00:48,740 --> 02:00:50,160
...and I listen to that...

3952
02:00:50,160 --> 02:00:51,100
...he's not going to close

3953
02:00:51,100 --> 02:00:51,640
debate...

3954
02:00:51,640 --> 02:00:53,320
...but he will win it...

3955
02:00:53,320 --> 02:00:55,520
...what the coaching role is...

3956
02:00:55,520 --> 02:00:56,740
...in some detail...

3957
02:00:56,740 --> 02:00:56,840
...and...

3958
02:00:56,840 --> 02:00:57,240
...yeah we might...

3959
02:00:57,240 --> 02:00:57,860
...we might have a chance...

3960
02:00:57,860 --> 02:00:58,560
...okay that's okay...

3961
02:00:58,560 --> 02:00:59,420
...I don't have to do it now...

3962
02:00:59,420 --> 02:01:00,420
...but I could do it whenever...

3963
02:01:00,420 --> 02:01:01,380
...it's appropriate gentlemen...

3964
02:01:01,380 --> 02:01:02,980
...this is like shooting fish...

3965
02:01:02,980 --> 02:01:03,780
...in a barrel...

3966
02:01:03,780 --> 02:01:05,620
...for Yates...

3967
02:01:05,620 --> 02:01:06,460
...or says Darren...

3968
02:01:06,460 --> 02:01:07,200
...indeed it is...

3969
02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:07,980
...he knows...

3970
02:01:07,980 --> 02:01:09,320
...he knows that he's...

3971
02:01:09,320 --> 02:01:10,920
...and not part of any election...

3972
02:01:10,920 --> 02:01:12,180
...he's the heavyweight here...

3973
02:01:12,180 --> 02:01:13,540
...and he's going up...

3974
02:01:13,540 --> 02:01:15,540
...against a load of flyweights...

3975
02:01:15,540 --> 02:01:16,740
...I'm not a strategic advisor...

3976
02:01:16,740 --> 02:01:17,420
...I'm not a spin doctor...

3977
02:01:17,420 --> 02:01:18,760
...so what I do is...

3978
02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:19,840
...I take someone...

3979
02:01:19,840 --> 02:01:20,720
...and I say okay...

3980
02:01:20,720 --> 02:01:21,580
...what do you want to say Gary...

3981
02:01:21,580 --> 02:01:22,820
...this is a run around the

3982
02:01:22,820 --> 02:01:23,440
park...

3983
02:01:23,440 --> 02:01:23,880
...for Yates...

3984
02:01:23,880 --> 02:01:26,280
...Yates pulling hard shapes...

3985
02:01:26,280 --> 02:01:27,220
...thank you very much...

3986
02:01:27,220 --> 02:01:27,720
...for the...

3987
02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:29,700
...for the tip there...

3988
02:01:29,700 --> 02:01:30,280
...love...

3989
02:01:30,280 --> 02:01:31,360
...the Kaz...

3990
02:01:31,360 --> 02:01:33,420
...soft granite turtle sweater...

3991
02:01:33,420 --> 02:01:34,720
...really...

3992
02:01:34,720 --> 02:01:35,420
...really enhances...

3993
02:01:35,420 --> 02:01:36,340
...your whole style...

3994
02:01:36,340 --> 02:01:37,420
...thank you very much...

3995
02:01:37,420 --> 02:01:38,760
...for media training...

3996
02:01:38,760 --> 02:01:39,440
...yeah...

3997
02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:40,760
...that's not considered small...

3998
02:01:40,760 --> 02:01:41,760
...would it be...

3999
02:01:41,760 --> 02:01:42,620
...or how big...

4000
02:01:42,620 --> 02:01:43,340
...how big are your other

4001
02:01:43,340 --> 02:01:43,840
elements...

4002
02:01:43,840 --> 02:01:45,200
...well let me explain...

4003
02:01:45,200 --> 02:01:45,900
...the numbers...

4004
02:01:45,900 --> 02:01:46,950
...and this is when the cameras

4005
02:01:46,950 --> 02:01:47,480
are on...

4006
02:01:47,480 --> 02:01:48,120
...imagine...

4007
02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:49,340
...how hard he goes...

4008
02:01:49,340 --> 02:01:49,840
...when it's...

4009
02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:51,520
...behind closed doors...

4010
02:01:51,520 --> 02:01:51,760
...in July...

4011
02:01:51,760 --> 02:01:53,760
...and I had 35...

4012
02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:54,260
...events...

4013
02:01:54,260 --> 02:01:54,900
...in my diary...

4014
02:01:54,900 --> 02:01:55,400
...and with COVID...

4015
02:01:55,400 --> 02:01:56,760
...everyone was cancelled...

4016
02:01:56,760 --> 02:01:58,440
...I couldn't go to the pub...

4017
02:01:58,440 --> 02:01:59,190
...there was a two kilometre

4018
02:01:59,190 --> 02:01:59,760
restriction...

4019
02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:00,940
...and I thought...

4020
02:02:00,940 --> 02:02:01,360
...what could I do...

4021
02:02:01,360 --> 02:02:02,760
...so I wrote 20,000 words...

4022
02:02:02,760 --> 02:02:04,520
...of everything I ever learnt...

4023
02:02:04,520 --> 02:02:06,050
...in 22 years of answering

4024
02:02:06,050 --> 02:02:06,920
questions...

4025
02:02:06,920 --> 02:02:08,360
...and then 12 years of asking

4026
02:02:08,360 --> 02:02:09,080
questions...

4027
02:02:09,080 --> 02:02:10,320
...so I wrote this down...

4028
02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:10,880
...and I wrote...

4029
02:02:10,880 --> 02:02:11,880
...put it in a syllabus...

4030
02:02:11,880 --> 02:02:14,480
...and I linked up with iQuest...

4031
02:02:14,480 --> 02:02:16,220
...and we did a masterclass on

4032
02:02:16,220 --> 02:02:17,020
this...

4033
02:02:17,020 --> 02:02:17,720
...iQuest...

4034
02:02:17,720 --> 02:02:18,440
...and actually...

4035
02:02:18,440 --> 02:02:19,720
...no but the point I'm making

4036
02:02:19,720 --> 02:02:20,220
is...

4037
02:02:20,220 --> 02:02:21,080
...you say it on the show...

4038
02:02:21,080 --> 02:02:22,480
...who are iQuest...

4039
02:02:22,480 --> 02:02:23,060
...hundreds of clients...

4040
02:02:23,060 --> 02:02:23,720
...you know so people have gone

4041
02:02:23,720 --> 02:02:24,100
through...

4042
02:02:24,100 --> 02:02:25,200
...the masterclass...

4043
02:02:25,200 --> 02:02:25,620
...yeah...

4044
02:02:25,620 --> 02:02:26,440
...but there was...

4045
02:02:26,440 --> 02:02:27,480
...other individuals...

4046
02:02:27,480 --> 02:02:28,160
...having done the master...

4047
02:02:28,160 --> 02:02:28,720
...and they just...

4048
02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:30,720
...I want to do a masterclass...

4049
02:02:30,720 --> 02:02:31,460
...with iQuest...

4050
02:02:31,460 --> 02:02:32,000
...as well...

4051
02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:32,600
...and you've...

4052
02:02:32,600 --> 02:02:33,580
...you mentioned it before...

4053
02:02:33,580 --> 02:02:34,360
...particularly in housing...

4054
02:02:34,360 --> 02:02:35,310
...you have a keen interest in

4055
02:02:35,310 --> 02:02:35,860
housing...

4056
02:02:35,860 --> 02:02:36,740
...and...

4057
02:02:36,740 --> 02:02:38,060
...you will be perceived as a...

4058
02:02:38,060 --> 02:02:38,720
...housing...

4059
02:02:38,720 --> 02:02:40,160
...that sounded like a fart...

4060
02:02:40,160 --> 02:02:41,380
...not sure...

4061
02:02:41,380 --> 02:02:42,440
...you've...

4062
02:02:42,440 --> 02:02:43,560
...if it was...

4063
02:02:43,560 --> 02:02:44,060
...was that a...

4064
02:02:44,060 --> 02:02:45,420
...a sneaky one...

4065
02:02:45,420 --> 02:02:47,460
...that just...

4066
02:02:47,460 --> 02:02:47,800
...you've...

4067
02:02:47,800 --> 02:02:48,360
...you've...

4068
02:02:48,360 --> 02:02:49,100
...hundreds of clients...

4069
02:02:49,100 --> 02:02:49,750
...you know so people have gone

4070
02:02:49,750 --> 02:02:50,120
through...

4071
02:02:50,120 --> 02:02:51,240
...the masterclass...

4072
02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:51,720
...yeah...

4073
02:02:51,720 --> 02:02:52,480
...but there was...

4074
02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:53,500
...other individuals...

4075
02:02:53,500 --> 02:02:54,200
...who haven't done the master...

4076
02:02:54,200 --> 02:02:55,190
...and they've just done the

4077
02:02:55,190 --> 02:02:56,020
coaching session...

4078
02:02:56,020 --> 02:02:56,480
...you've...

4079
02:02:56,480 --> 02:02:57,520
...you've other lines of work

4080
02:02:57,520 --> 02:02:58,040
as well...

4081
02:02:58,040 --> 02:02:58,620
...and you've...

4082
02:02:58,620 --> 02:02:59,600
...you mentioned it before...

4083
02:02:59,600 --> 02:03:00,420
...particularly in housing...

4084
02:03:00,420 --> 02:03:01,680
...you have a keen interest in

4085
02:03:01,680 --> 02:03:02,400
housing...

4086
02:03:02,400 --> 02:03:02,780
...and...

4087
02:03:02,780 --> 02:03:04,180
...you will be perceived as a...

4088
02:03:04,180 --> 02:03:04,680
...it was a cough...

4089
02:03:04,680 --> 02:03:05,700
...I thought there was a...

4090
02:03:05,700 --> 02:03:06,760
...I thought there might have

4091
02:03:06,760 --> 02:03:07,680
been a Russian hack...

4092
02:03:07,680 --> 02:03:08,880
...there as well...

4093
02:03:08,880 --> 02:03:09,400
...but it wasn't...

4094
02:03:09,400 --> 02:03:10,040
...it was a cough...

4095
02:03:10,040 --> 02:03:11,300
...an exhalation or something...

4096
02:03:11,300 --> 02:03:12,760
...as well in a lot of ways...

4097
02:03:12,760 --> 02:03:13,530
...could have been a cough

4098
02:03:13,530 --> 02:03:14,080
cover-up...

4099
02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:14,680
...like a...

4100
02:03:14,680 --> 02:03:19,060
...but it made the microphone...

4101
02:03:19,060 --> 02:03:20,130
...they're actually good

4102
02:03:20,130 --> 02:03:20,940
microphones...

4103
02:03:20,940 --> 02:03:21,660
...that they use...

4104
02:03:21,660 --> 02:03:22,560
...you've...

4105
02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:24,320
...you've...

4106
02:03:24,320 --> 02:03:24,640
...you've...

4107
02:03:24,640 --> 02:03:27,820
...developments in Middleton...

4108
02:03:27,820 --> 02:03:28,700
...and other places...

4109
02:03:28,700 --> 02:03:29,560
...how many houses are

4110
02:03:29,560 --> 02:03:30,160
currently...

4111
02:03:30,160 --> 02:03:30,880
...at the moment...

4112
02:03:30,880 --> 02:03:31,620
...are being developed?

4113
02:03:31,780 --> 02:03:31,840
...so...

4114
02:03:31,840 --> 02:03:34,000
...the situation is that...

4115
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:36,040
...on the 7th of November...

4116
02:03:36,040 --> 02:03:36,880
...Colum Kina...

4117
02:03:36,880 --> 02:03:39,380
...did a full interview...

4118
02:03:39,380 --> 02:03:39,700
...sorry...

4119
02:03:39,700 --> 02:03:41,320
...did a full revelation...

4120
02:03:41,320 --> 02:03:42,150
...of everything that's

4121
02:03:42,150 --> 02:03:42,660
declared...

4122
02:03:42,660 --> 02:03:43,280
...with CIPO...

4123
02:03:43,280 --> 02:03:44,220
...and Lobby.ie...

4124
02:03:44,220 --> 02:03:45,720
...which are two companies...

4125
02:03:45,720 --> 02:03:47,000
...my own companies...

4126
02:03:47,000 --> 02:03:48,000
...which I own...

4127
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:49,180
...and other companies...

4128
02:03:49,180 --> 02:03:50,600
...for which I'm a director...

4129
02:03:50,600 --> 02:03:51,040
...and...

4130
02:03:51,040 --> 02:03:52,320
...so if you're asking about...

4131
02:03:52,320 --> 02:03:53,660
...the particular company...

4132
02:03:53,660 --> 02:03:54,560
...that's building houses...

4133
02:03:54,560 --> 02:03:55,260
...because...

4134
02:03:55,260 --> 02:03:56,280
...those companies...

4135
02:03:56,280 --> 02:03:57,540
...are all right across the

4136
02:03:57,540 --> 02:03:58,260
economy...

4137
02:03:58,260 --> 02:03:59,260
...uh...

4138
02:03:59,260 --> 02:04:00,940
...it's a company called Mortimer...

4139
02:04:00,940 --> 02:04:01,820
...it's built...

4140
02:04:01,820 --> 02:04:04,260
...90 houses in Castle Marter...

4141
02:04:04,260 --> 02:04:05,220
...and is currently in the

4142
02:04:05,220 --> 02:04:05,820
process...

4143
02:04:05,820 --> 02:04:06,660
...has planning permission...

4144
02:04:06,660 --> 02:04:07,940
...for 400 houses...

4145
02:04:07,940 --> 02:04:09,200
...in a new development...

4146
02:04:09,200 --> 02:04:09,700
...it's like...

4147
02:04:09,700 --> 02:04:10,700
...Adams Town of Cork...

4148
02:04:10,700 --> 02:04:11,200
...and you...

4149
02:04:11,200 --> 02:04:12,340
...why are we talking about

4150
02:04:12,340 --> 02:04:12,580
this?

4151
02:04:12,680 --> 02:04:14,180
...400 houses in Middleton...

4152
02:04:14,180 --> 02:04:15,520
...and you'd give advice then...

4153
02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:16,000
...because you're...

4154
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:16,620
...non chairman of that company...

4155
02:04:16,620 --> 02:04:17,430
...you're chairman of that

4156
02:04:17,430 --> 02:04:17,940
company...

4157
02:04:17,940 --> 02:04:18,900
...but I don't own the company...

4158
02:04:18,900 --> 02:04:19,260
...no...

4159
02:04:19,260 --> 02:04:20,190
...but you've said on your

4160
02:04:20,190 --> 02:04:21,000
podcast as well...

4161
02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:22,080
...that you give advice...

4162
02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:24,020
...to housing agencies...

4163
02:04:24,020 --> 02:04:24,580
...housing...

4164
02:04:24,580 --> 02:04:25,900
...organisations as well...

4165
02:04:25,900 --> 02:04:27,540
...so one of my biggest clients...

4166
02:04:27,540 --> 02:04:29,120
...on the events side of things...

4167
02:04:29,120 --> 02:04:29,460
...can be...

4168
02:04:29,460 --> 02:04:30,240
...so I would chair the

4169
02:04:30,240 --> 02:04:31,220
National Housing Summit...

4170
02:04:31,220 --> 02:04:31,800
...so your man...

4171
02:04:31,800 --> 02:04:33,800
...is trying to get...

4172
02:04:33,800 --> 02:04:34,520
...Yates...

4173
02:04:34,520 --> 02:04:35,710
...on the fact that he's

4174
02:04:35,710 --> 02:04:36,560
involved...

4175
02:04:36,560 --> 02:04:37,620
...in development...

4176
02:04:37,620 --> 02:04:38,840
...and construction...

4177
02:04:38,840 --> 02:04:39,480
...and housing...

4178
02:04:39,480 --> 02:04:40,060
...the economy...

4179
02:04:40,060 --> 02:04:41,620
...it's a massive operation...

4180
02:04:41,620 --> 02:04:42,860
...based on what...

4181
02:04:42,860 --> 02:04:43,870
...that he might talk about

4182
02:04:43,870 --> 02:04:44,620
those issues...

4183
02:04:44,620 --> 02:04:45,720
...on the programmes that he

4184
02:04:45,720 --> 02:04:46,240
does...

4185
02:04:46,240 --> 02:04:47,240
...is...

4186
02:04:47,240 --> 02:04:48,560
...you're involved...

4187
02:04:48,560 --> 02:04:50,560
...in building 500 houses...

4188
02:04:50,560 --> 02:04:51,560
...badly needed...

4189
02:04:51,560 --> 02:04:52,620
...in housing crisis...

4190
02:04:52,620 --> 02:04:53,560
...absolutely...

4191
02:04:53,560 --> 02:04:54,660
...and you're working with

4192
02:04:54,660 --> 02:04:55,560
organisations...

4193
02:04:55,560 --> 02:04:56,560
...training organisations...

4194
02:04:56,560 --> 02:04:57,560
...in terms of...

4195
02:04:57,560 --> 02:04:58,560
...in terms of media...

4196
02:04:58,560 --> 02:05:00,560
...it's also on public record...

4197
02:05:00,560 --> 02:05:01,560
...that you've trained...

4198
02:05:01,560 --> 02:05:02,560
...the Minister for Housing...

4199
02:05:02,560 --> 02:05:03,560
...yeah...

4200
02:05:03,560 --> 02:05:04,880
...that's agreed...

4201
02:05:04,880 --> 02:05:05,560
...yeah...

4202
02:05:05,560 --> 02:05:06,880
...can you not see...

4203
02:05:06,880 --> 02:05:07,880
...how...

4204
02:05:07,880 --> 02:05:09,880
...people would see a conflict...

4205
02:05:09,880 --> 02:05:11,880
...with a property developer...

4206
02:05:11,880 --> 02:05:13,880
...training people who work...

4207
02:05:13,880 --> 02:05:14,880
...in property...

4208
02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:15,880
...going into media...

4209
02:05:16,740 --> 02:05:18,240
...training the Minister...

4210
02:05:18,240 --> 02:05:18,560
...for Housing...

4211
02:05:18,560 --> 02:05:18,560
...for Housing...

4212
02:05:18,560 --> 02:05:19,880
...on media...

4213
02:05:19,880 --> 02:05:21,770
...and then talking about

4214
02:05:21,770 --> 02:05:22,880
housing...

4215
02:05:22,880 --> 02:05:23,520
...on a podcast...

4216
02:05:23,520 --> 02:05:23,880
...well...

4217
02:05:23,880 --> 02:05:24,520
...not at all...

4218
02:05:24,520 --> 02:05:24,880
...that's...

4219
02:05:24,880 --> 02:05:25,880
...straw man...

4220
02:05:25,880 --> 02:05:27,880
...what the coaching thing is...

4221
02:05:27,880 --> 02:05:28,880
...the coaching thing is...

4222
02:05:28,880 --> 02:05:30,440
...no, no, no...

4223
02:05:30,440 --> 02:05:30,880
...I think definitely...

4224
02:05:31,400 --> 02:05:32,160
Nice...

4225
02:05:32,160 --> 02:05:33,040
...so I have to answer the

4226
02:05:33,040 --> 02:05:33,660
question...

4227
02:05:33,660 --> 02:05:33,880
...nice...

4228
02:05:33,880 --> 02:05:34,880
...go on...

4229
02:05:34,880 --> 02:05:35,700
...is there a conflict...

4230
02:05:35,700 --> 02:05:35,880
...with me...

4231
02:05:36,460 --> 02:05:37,740
...having a coaching session...

4232
02:05:37,740 --> 02:05:38,880
...with James Brown...

4233
02:05:38,880 --> 02:05:39,280
...and...

4234
02:05:39,280 --> 02:05:39,880
...one, two...

4235
02:05:40,700 --> 02:05:42,340
...I'll be quite frank about it...

4236
02:05:42,340 --> 02:05:43,500
...one of the sessions...

4237
02:05:43,500 --> 02:05:44,310
...and I don't like to talk

4238
02:05:44,310 --> 02:05:44,760
about...

4239
02:05:44,760 --> 02:05:45,610
...anything to do with any

4240
02:05:45,610 --> 02:05:46,100
client...

4241
02:05:46,100 --> 02:05:46,890
...where it's on the public

4242
02:05:46,890 --> 02:05:47,320
record...

4243
02:05:47,320 --> 02:05:48,280
...would have been about...

4244
02:05:48,280 --> 02:05:49,000
...rent pressure zones...

4245
02:05:49,000 --> 02:05:49,880
...I don't believe in...

4246
02:05:49,880 --> 02:05:50,880
...rent pressure zones...

4247
02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:51,880
...and I have a completely...

4248
02:05:51,880 --> 02:05:52,880
...different view...

4249
02:05:52,880 --> 02:05:54,060
...about the impact...

4250
02:05:54,060 --> 02:05:54,530
...they're having on housing

4251
02:05:54,530 --> 02:05:54,880
investment...

4252
02:05:55,460 --> 02:05:56,880
...we need 24 billion...

4253
02:05:56,880 --> 02:05:57,880
...so I totally separate...

4254
02:05:58,680 --> 02:05:59,640
...my view...

4255
02:05:59,640 --> 02:06:00,780
...my view as a...

4256
02:06:00,780 --> 02:06:02,420
...bounded on path to power...

4257
02:06:02,420 --> 02:06:03,500
...my view in training...

4258
02:06:03,500 --> 02:06:04,900
...my job with anyone...

4259
02:06:04,900 --> 02:06:05,720
...if you came to me...

4260
02:06:05,720 --> 02:06:06,180
...I don't know...

4261
02:06:06,180 --> 02:06:07,080
...anyone came to me...

4262
02:06:07,080 --> 02:06:07,620
...I'd say...

4263
02:06:07,620 --> 02:06:08,370
...just tell me what your

4264
02:06:08,370 --> 02:06:08,960
message is...

4265
02:06:08,960 --> 02:06:10,040
...and I'll tell you to do it...

4266
02:06:10,040 --> 02:06:11,170
...in two sentences instead of

4267
02:06:11,170 --> 02:06:11,640
six...

4268
02:06:11,640 --> 02:06:12,560
...to be memorable...

4269
02:06:12,560 --> 02:06:13,600
...to be impactful...

4270
02:06:13,600 --> 02:06:14,780
...maybe to be witty...

4271
02:06:14,780 --> 02:06:15,740
...but also...

4272
02:06:15,740 --> 02:06:17,260
...to connect with people...

4273
02:06:17,260 --> 02:06:19,140
...so my job is not to deal...

4274
02:06:19,140 --> 02:06:20,860
...with the content in any way...

4275
02:06:20,860 --> 02:06:21,820
...and often...

4276
02:06:21,820 --> 02:06:22,860
...there are many cases...

4277
02:06:22,860 --> 02:06:23,860
...with NGOs...

4278
02:06:23,860 --> 02:06:24,760
...and with...

4279
02:06:24,760 --> 02:06:26,360
...with public bodies...

4280
02:06:26,360 --> 02:06:27,700
...whereby I totally disagree...

4281
02:06:27,700 --> 02:06:28,480
...with what they're doing...

4282
02:06:28,480 --> 02:06:29,360
...but that isn't my job...

4283
02:06:29,360 --> 02:06:30,620
...no I totally get that...

4284
02:06:30,620 --> 02:06:32,340
...but you're heavily involved...

4285
02:06:32,340 --> 02:06:33,680
...in different sides of

4286
02:06:33,680 --> 02:06:34,520
housing...

4287
02:06:35,580 --> 02:06:36,190
...you're involved in

4288
02:06:36,190 --> 02:06:37,320
developing...

4289
02:06:37,320 --> 02:06:38,280
...in building houses...

4290
02:06:38,280 --> 02:06:38,980
...you're involved in...

4291
02:06:38,980 --> 02:06:40,140
...organisations about houses...

4292
02:06:40,140 --> 02:06:41,080
...and every breath...

4293
02:06:41,080 --> 02:06:42,180
...that comes out of my mouth...

4294
02:06:42,180 --> 02:06:42,940
...and you're involved...

4295
02:06:42,940 --> 02:06:43,230
...with the Minister for

4296
02:06:43,230 --> 02:06:43,440
Housing...

4297
02:06:43,440 --> 02:06:44,020
...is in my...

4298
02:06:44,020 --> 02:06:44,720
...sorry...

4299
02:06:44,720 --> 02:06:46,020
...I have been the most...

4300
02:06:46,020 --> 02:06:46,940
...it's a modern version...

4301
02:06:46,940 --> 02:06:47,440
...of the Galway Tent...

4302
02:06:47,440 --> 02:06:47,920
...no no no no...

4303
02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:49,220
...can I say this...

4304
02:06:49,220 --> 02:06:49,780
...it is an open...

4305
02:06:49,780 --> 02:06:51,040
...the Galway Tent...

4306
02:06:51,040 --> 02:06:53,160
...because I am the most...

4307
02:06:53,160 --> 02:06:54,420
...proactive person...

4308
02:06:54,420 --> 02:06:55,040
...it can't be...

4309
02:06:55,040 --> 02:06:55,820
...it can't be an open...

4310
02:06:55,820 --> 02:06:55,820
...it can't be an open...

4311
02:06:55,820 --> 02:06:56,240
...pulse...

4312
02:06:56,240 --> 02:06:57,380
...it's actually love to see...

4313
02:06:57,380 --> 02:06:58,580
...a dramatisation...

4314
02:06:58,580 --> 02:06:59,880
...of the Galway Tent...

4315
02:06:59,880 --> 02:07:00,660
...years...

4316
02:07:00,660 --> 02:07:01,380
...and...

4317
02:07:01,380 --> 02:07:02,500
...brown envelopes...

4318
02:07:02,500 --> 02:07:03,220
...inside the tent...

4319
02:07:03,220 --> 02:07:04,660
...at the Galway races...

4320
02:07:04,660 --> 02:07:06,540
...even if it's just like...

4321
02:07:06,540 --> 02:07:07,660
...a short film...

4322
02:07:07,660 --> 02:07:08,820
...or something like that...

4323
02:07:08,820 --> 02:07:10,320
...you know...

4324
02:07:10,320 --> 02:07:10,940
...sort of...

4325
02:07:10,940 --> 02:07:12,040
...verite look...

4326
02:07:12,040 --> 02:07:12,300
...at...

4327
02:07:12,300 --> 02:07:13,240
...some of the chat...

4328
02:07:13,240 --> 02:07:13,620
...and the...

4329
02:07:13,620 --> 02:07:15,240
...the stuff going on...

4330
02:07:15,240 --> 02:07:15,880
...inside there...

4331
02:07:15,880 --> 02:07:17,120
...the champagne...

4332
02:07:17,120 --> 02:07:18,560
...the winnings...

4333
02:07:18,560 --> 02:07:19,960
...the bets...

4334
02:07:19,960 --> 02:07:21,500
...the bants...

4335
02:07:21,500 --> 02:07:23,080
...the good times...

4336
02:07:23,080 --> 02:07:24,960
...the Celtic Tiger times...

4337
02:07:24,960 --> 02:07:26,140
...um...

4338
02:07:26,140 --> 02:07:27,180
...that's a side issue...

4339
02:07:27,180 --> 02:07:27,580
...but...

4340
02:07:27,580 --> 02:07:29,060
...trying to draw comparisons...

4341
02:07:29,060 --> 02:07:29,620
...between...

4342
02:07:29,620 --> 02:07:30,880
...his business dealings...

4343
02:07:30,880 --> 02:07:32,060
...and media training...

4344
02:07:32,060 --> 02:07:32,500
...and...

4345
02:07:32,500 --> 02:07:33,180
...uh...

4346
02:07:33,180 --> 02:07:35,060
...media placement...

4347
02:07:35,060 --> 02:07:36,060
...with that...

4348
02:07:36,620 --> 02:07:37,640
...side of...

4349
02:07:37,640 --> 02:07:38,000
...of...

4350
02:07:38,000 --> 02:07:39,080
...of life...

4351
02:07:39,080 --> 02:07:39,660
...it's...

4352
02:07:39,660 --> 02:07:40,080
...it's...

4353
02:07:40,080 --> 02:07:41,380
...that's rubbish stuff...

4354
02:07:41,380 --> 02:07:42,420
...absolute rubbish...

4355
02:07:42,420 --> 02:07:42,740
...and...

4356
02:07:42,740 --> 02:07:43,900
...and I love the way...

4357
02:07:43,900 --> 02:07:45,060
...Yates is...

4358
02:07:45,060 --> 02:07:46,060
...competently combating...

4359
02:07:46,060 --> 02:07:47,060
...these...

4360
02:07:47,060 --> 02:07:48,100
...little jobs...

4361
02:07:48,100 --> 02:07:49,600
...that he's been dished...

4362
02:07:49,600 --> 02:07:50,500
...no, no, no...

4363
02:07:50,500 --> 02:07:51,000
...not the truth...

4364
02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:52,900
...no, no, no...

4365
02:07:52,900 --> 02:07:53,840
...my perspective...

4366
02:07:53,840 --> 02:07:54,900
...on housing...

4367
02:07:54,900 --> 02:07:55,460
...is build...

4368
02:07:55,460 --> 02:07:56,320
...baby build...

4369
02:07:56,320 --> 02:07:57,940
...supply, supply, supply...

4370
02:07:57,940 --> 02:07:58,700
...absolute...

4371
02:07:58,700 --> 02:07:59,100
...beautiful...

4372
02:07:59,100 --> 02:08:01,100
...beautiful term...

4373
02:08:01,100 --> 02:08:03,200
...traditional reviews...

4374
02:08:03,200 --> 02:08:04,160
...I've railed against...

4375
02:08:04,160 --> 02:08:05,000
...the banning system...

4376
02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:06,480
...my story on housing...

4377
02:08:06,480 --> 02:08:07,540
...is very simple...

4378
02:08:07,540 --> 02:08:08,340
...I believe...

4379
02:08:08,340 --> 02:08:09,140
...that there are ways...

4380
02:08:09,140 --> 02:08:09,760
...that we can build...

4381
02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:11,020
...60,000 houses a year...

4382
02:08:11,020 --> 02:08:12,150
...and I'm all in favour of

4383
02:08:12,150 --> 02:08:12,720
them...

4384
02:08:12,720 --> 02:08:13,100
...so...

4385
02:08:13,100 --> 02:08:14,460
...I'm quite happy...

4386
02:08:14,460 --> 02:08:15,460
...for people to disagree...

4387
02:08:15,460 --> 02:08:16,200
...with those views...

4388
02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:16,840
...but they're my views...

4389
02:08:16,840 --> 02:08:18,040
...just one last question...

4390
02:08:18,040 --> 02:08:19,100
...you said as well...

4391
02:08:19,100 --> 02:08:20,320
...that in your view...

4392
02:08:20,320 --> 02:08:21,380
...and the finger pointing...

4393
02:08:21,380 --> 02:08:22,060
...that there's no other

4394
02:08:22,060 --> 02:08:22,580
profession...

4395
02:08:22,580 --> 02:08:23,240
...I mean it's...

4396
02:08:23,240 --> 02:08:24,400
...it's the finger pointing as

4397
02:08:24,400 --> 02:08:24,920
well...

4398
02:08:24,920 --> 02:08:26,420
...it's a bit much...

4399
02:08:26,420 --> 02:08:26,760
...do you know...

4400
02:08:26,760 --> 02:08:27,720
...the body language...

4401
02:08:27,720 --> 02:08:29,000
...more conflicts of interest...

4402
02:08:29,000 --> 02:08:30,680
...the body language there...

4403
02:08:30,680 --> 02:08:31,100
...it's...

4404
02:08:31,100 --> 02:08:32,700
...it's hard to come up against

4405
02:08:32,700 --> 02:08:33,380
that...

4406
02:08:33,380 --> 02:08:33,840
...do you know...

4407
02:08:34,760 --> 02:08:35,340
...it's...

4408
02:08:35,340 --> 02:08:36,840
...it's too much...

4409
02:08:36,840 --> 02:08:38,840
...who did they think they were...

4410
02:08:38,840 --> 02:08:39,680
...I mean...

4411
02:08:39,680 --> 02:08:41,940
...Ivan had voluntarily...

4412
02:08:41,940 --> 02:08:44,020
...accepted this invitation...

4413
02:08:44,020 --> 02:08:45,420
...when many other people didn't...

4414
02:08:45,420 --> 02:08:47,990
...it seems to be a show trial

4415
02:08:47,990 --> 02:08:49,420
of sorts...

4416
02:08:49,420 --> 02:08:50,420
...without any...

4417
02:08:50,420 --> 02:08:52,260
...tangible outcome...

4418
02:08:52,260 --> 02:08:53,420
...or consequence...

4419
02:08:53,420 --> 02:08:55,790
than in media. In terms of

4420
02:08:55,790 --> 02:08:57,380
corporate freebies, that's

4421
02:08:57,380 --> 02:08:59,340
essentially what we're talking

4422
02:08:59,340 --> 02:08:59,960
about today.

4423
02:08:59,960 --> 02:09:05,400
Can you expand on that? I was

4424
02:09:05,400 --> 02:09:08,480
making the point that I felt

4425
02:09:08,480 --> 02:09:11,120
there was double standards. One

4426
02:09:11,120 --> 02:09:11,440
standard

4427
02:09:11,440 --> 02:09:13,710
being applied to me, another.

4428
02:09:13,710 --> 02:09:15,650
The truth of it is, the media

4429
02:09:15,650 --> 02:09:17,520
is very poorly paid. And I

4430
02:09:17,520 --> 02:09:18,420
heard Deputy

4431
02:09:18,420 --> 02:09:19,690
Gibney referring to this

4432
02:09:19,690 --> 02:09:21,380
earlier today. And the truth of

4433
02:09:21,380 --> 02:09:22,920
it is, some people have more

4434
02:09:22,920 --> 02:09:23,880
income from other

4435
02:09:23,880 --> 02:09:25,350
sources outside of their media

4436
02:09:25,350 --> 02:09:26,700
income. And in terms of the

4437
02:09:26,700 --> 02:09:28,310
press, it's never revealed. In

4438
02:09:28,310 --> 02:09:28,940
terms of a

4439
02:09:28,940 --> 02:09:31,180
columnist, it's never revealed.

4440
02:09:31,180 --> 02:09:33,590
And that is the poverty of the...

4441
02:09:33,590 --> 02:09:36,100
RT got 725 million. Most media

4442
02:09:36,100 --> 02:09:38,360
organisations are near broke.

4443
02:09:38,360 --> 02:09:40,530
That's the truth. Lovely dig.

4444
02:09:40,530 --> 02:09:43,020
Then the smile. And the stance.

4445
02:09:43,020 --> 02:09:45,580
Or sit-ans. Because he's

4446
02:09:45,580 --> 02:09:48,940
sitting. Sitting stance. And I

4447
02:09:48,940 --> 02:09:51,850
suppose in many ways, this is a

4448
02:09:51,850 --> 02:09:53,480
fence down the centre of

4449
02:09:53,480 --> 02:09:55,040
politics and journalism. Well

4450
02:09:55,040 --> 02:09:56,620
then, you've jumped one way,

4451
02:09:56,620 --> 02:09:57,990
and I have jumped the other.

4452
02:09:57,990 --> 02:09:59,900
More on that in a moment. Jumping

4453
02:09:59,900 --> 02:10:01,950
straight in though, do you have

4454
02:10:01,950 --> 02:10:03,820
any regrets in not informing

4455
02:10:03,820 --> 02:10:05,980
your co-host, Matt Cooper, at

4456
02:10:05,980 --> 02:10:07,420
the time that you had a dual

4457
02:10:07,420 --> 02:10:07,900
role,

4458
02:10:07,900 --> 02:10:10,680
Touchy one. Touchy one. Cooper

4459
02:10:10,680 --> 02:10:13,010
mentioned. Cooper has been

4460
02:10:13,010 --> 02:10:16,530
mentioned. An impartial commentator.

4461
02:10:16,530 --> 02:10:19,670
So, I reflected on that. And on

4462
02:10:19,670 --> 02:10:22,360
the particular morning...

4463
02:10:22,360 --> 02:10:23,940
Someone needs to sort

4464
02:10:23,940 --> 02:10:25,120
themselves out,

4465
02:10:25,200 --> 02:10:26,280
coffin in the background there.

4466
02:10:26,360 --> 02:10:28,660
It's lowering the tone of the

4467
02:10:28,660 --> 02:10:29,240
piece.

4468
02:10:29,880 --> 02:10:31,140
Thank you very much there, Liam

4469
02:10:31,140 --> 02:10:31,640
Rogers,

4470
02:10:31,640 --> 02:10:33,900
who says, it's a well-paid job,

4471
02:10:33,900 --> 02:10:34,720
chairman.

4472
02:10:34,960 --> 02:10:35,560
Try it sometime.

4473
02:10:36,140 --> 02:10:38,080
And Yates pulling hard shapes

4474
02:10:38,080 --> 02:10:39,040
as well.

4475
02:10:39,300 --> 02:10:42,420
I really like his stance at the

4476
02:10:42,420 --> 02:10:42,980
desk

4477
02:10:42,980 --> 02:10:45,680
with the arms out like that.

4478
02:10:46,180 --> 02:10:47,100
Nothing to lose.

4479
02:10:47,620 --> 02:10:49,080
He won the first bout there.

4480
02:10:49,420 --> 02:10:50,960
Another contender has just been

4481
02:10:50,960 --> 02:10:52,160
thrown into the ring here.

4482
02:10:52,720 --> 02:10:53,780
How will he deal with it?

4483
02:10:53,840 --> 02:10:54,770
I think he'll deal with it

4484
02:10:54,770 --> 02:10:55,620
quite competently

4485
02:10:55,620 --> 02:10:57,360
and very, very well indeed.

4486
02:10:57,660 --> 02:10:59,160
On a Saturday morning, I said

4487
02:10:59,160 --> 02:10:59,780
to Matt,

4488
02:10:59,780 --> 02:11:01,920
I deliberately didn't tell you

4489
02:11:01,920 --> 02:11:04,070
because I didn't want you to be

4490
02:11:04,070 --> 02:11:05,720
in any way conflicted.

4491
02:11:05,800 --> 02:11:07,080
In other words, he could say,

4492
02:11:07,500 --> 02:11:09,160
oh, I never knew any of this,

4493
02:11:09,260 --> 02:11:10,700
and it was a statement of fact.

4494
02:11:10,880 --> 02:11:12,790
If I had said, confidentially,

4495
02:11:12,790 --> 02:11:13,280
Matt,

4496
02:11:13,360 --> 02:11:14,740
this is something I do,

4497
02:11:15,120 --> 02:11:16,370
it would have put him in a very

4498
02:11:16,370 --> 02:11:17,600
invidious position.

4499
02:11:17,840 --> 02:11:19,760
So I didn't put NKM or him in

4500
02:11:19,760 --> 02:11:21,260
that situation,

4501
02:11:21,460 --> 02:11:22,720
and I felt that was fair to

4502
02:11:22,720 --> 02:11:23,200
them.

4503
02:11:23,200 --> 02:11:24,020
I took him-

4504
02:11:24,020 --> 02:11:25,280
M-M-K-M?

4505
02:11:30,140 --> 02:11:31,440
Question mark?

4506
02:11:33,140 --> 02:11:35,240
Who are M-M-K-M?

4507
02:11:37,760 --> 02:11:39,980
He was protecting Matt Cooper.

4508
02:11:41,100 --> 02:11:42,660
Media cool media.

4509
02:11:43,560 --> 02:11:45,000
Or N-N-K-M!

4510
02:11:45,320 --> 02:11:45,980
No way!

4511
02:11:47,080 --> 02:11:48,820
It's Noel Kelly again.

4512
02:11:49,820 --> 02:11:50,540
Did they-

4513
02:11:50,540 --> 02:11:51,860
Did they do-

4514
02:11:51,860 --> 02:11:53,120
Did they own Cooper?

4515
02:11:56,040 --> 02:11:57,140
Does Noel-

4516
02:11:57,140 --> 02:11:58,880
Noel Kelly own Cooper as well?

4517
02:11:59,240 --> 02:11:59,760
Is he-

4518
02:11:59,760 --> 02:12:00,970
Is Cooper part of the Kelly

4519
02:12:00,970 --> 02:12:01,500
stable?

4520
02:12:02,700 --> 02:12:04,760
It's quite a formidable stable.

4521
02:12:04,760 --> 02:12:08,340
I can't believe we're yet again

4522
02:12:08,340 --> 02:12:10,470
at another Oireachtas committee

4523
02:12:10,470 --> 02:12:11,060
meeting,

4524
02:12:11,740 --> 02:12:13,660
and at the heart of it all,

4525
02:12:13,740 --> 02:12:15,180
behind the scenes,

4526
02:12:15,620 --> 02:12:17,480
Noel Kelly is involved again.

4527
02:12:18,440 --> 02:12:20,800
It's quite the remarkable

4528
02:12:20,800 --> 02:12:23,160
foothold, stronghold,

4529
02:12:23,480 --> 02:12:25,320
on a considerable section of

4530
02:12:25,320 --> 02:12:26,340
the media.

4531
02:12:28,380 --> 02:12:31,500
But Yates is his own situation.

4532
02:12:31,660 --> 02:12:33,800
I don't think he's a part of

4533
02:12:33,800 --> 02:12:34,400
that.

4534
02:12:34,460 --> 02:12:34,940
I'm not sure.

4535
02:12:35,100 --> 02:12:36,140
I never thought he was.

4536
02:12:37,700 --> 02:12:38,700
He's U-Tree.

4537
02:12:42,120 --> 02:12:47,300
No, Kelly is both their agent,

4538
02:12:47,400 --> 02:12:48,200
Cooper and Yates.

4539
02:12:49,500 --> 02:12:50,460
Unbelievable stuff.

4540
02:12:50,920 --> 02:12:52,060
Should have said on the morning

4541
02:12:52,060 --> 02:12:53,020
that this broke.

4542
02:12:53,240 --> 02:12:53,690
This should have been something

4543
02:12:53,690 --> 02:12:53,980
that wasn't-

4544
02:12:53,980 --> 02:12:55,080
I just did think Yates

4545
02:12:55,080 --> 02:12:56,400
would have an agent for that.

4546
02:12:56,460 --> 02:12:57,280
I thought he would just be

4547
02:12:57,280 --> 02:12:58,300
his own agent, you know?

4548
02:12:59,480 --> 02:13:00,880
Obviously, I know all this.

4549
02:13:01,320 --> 02:13:03,220
Quite open in plain view

4550
02:13:03,220 --> 02:13:04,400
and possibly in plain view.

4551
02:13:04,440 --> 02:13:04,440
I'm just-

4552
02:13:04,440 --> 02:13:05,820
I'm pretending I'm ignorant

4553
02:13:05,820 --> 02:13:07,100
just to, uh,

4554
02:13:08,380 --> 02:13:08,660
you know,

4555
02:13:08,860 --> 02:13:10,340
spark the debate in the chat.

4556
02:13:11,140 --> 02:13:11,680
But, uh,

4557
02:13:11,700 --> 02:13:13,020
but actually it is news to me

4558
02:13:13,020 --> 02:13:14,420
that he was involved in there.

4559
02:13:14,600 --> 02:13:15,330
Because when you'd see the

4560
02:13:15,330 --> 02:13:15,800
pictures,

4561
02:13:16,120 --> 02:13:16,360
you know,

4562
02:13:16,400 --> 02:13:17,700
of the whole stable photo

4563
02:13:17,700 --> 02:13:18,240
together,

4564
02:13:18,440 --> 02:13:21,080
Tuberty and whoever else,

4565
02:13:21,540 --> 02:13:22,560
was Yates there?

4566
02:13:22,920 --> 02:13:23,660
I'm not sure.

4567
02:13:25,020 --> 02:13:25,980
Yates, best mates.

4568
02:13:27,140 --> 02:13:28,100
I'll look at it another time.

4569
02:13:28,120 --> 02:13:28,880
Public, never mind people

4570
02:13:28,880 --> 02:13:30,260
that you worked with or for.

4571
02:13:30,320 --> 02:13:30,540
You see,

4572
02:13:31,120 --> 02:13:32,640
that sort of presupposes

4573
02:13:32,640 --> 02:13:34,040
that the coaching work

4574
02:13:34,040 --> 02:13:34,640
would influence

4575
02:13:34,640 --> 02:13:35,680
what I'd say on the podcast.

4576
02:13:36,020 --> 02:13:36,660
And I say,

4577
02:13:37,120 --> 02:13:38,580
I have been so critical

4578
02:13:38,580 --> 02:13:40,600
of Fianna Fáil in 2024.

4579
02:13:41,000 --> 02:13:41,940
And again, this year,

4580
02:13:42,260 --> 02:13:43,310
I criticise their migration

4581
02:13:43,310 --> 02:13:43,980
policies.

4582
02:13:44,140 --> 02:13:45,110
I criticise their spending

4583
02:13:45,110 --> 02:13:45,680
policies.

4584
02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:47,220
I criticise so many of their

4585
02:13:47,220 --> 02:13:47,620
policies,

4586
02:13:47,740 --> 02:13:48,440
their indecision

4587
02:13:48,440 --> 02:13:49,460
on planning reform.

4588
02:13:49,780 --> 02:13:51,120
So I actually believe,

4589
02:13:51,320 --> 02:13:52,300
and this is the truth of it,

4590
02:13:52,480 --> 02:13:53,460
it may be a case,

4591
02:13:53,560 --> 02:13:54,460
one hair head

4592
02:13:54,460 --> 02:13:55,480
wears many hats,

4593
02:13:55,880 --> 02:13:56,660
but I actually think

4594
02:13:56,660 --> 02:13:58,360
I have the personal integrity

4595
02:13:58,360 --> 02:13:59,240
to be able to say,

4596
02:13:59,380 --> 02:13:59,960
okay, today,

4597
02:14:00,060 --> 02:14:00,980
I'm doing this job,

4598
02:14:01,260 --> 02:14:02,080
tomorrow, I'm doing that job.

4599
02:14:02,100 --> 02:14:02,820
And I want to be quite honest

4600
02:14:02,820 --> 02:14:03,160
with you,

4601
02:14:03,260 --> 02:14:04,680
if I coached you yesterday,

4602
02:14:04,900 --> 02:14:05,700
I would feel free

4603
02:14:05,700 --> 02:14:06,740
to criticise you tomorrow.

4604
02:14:07,120 --> 02:14:07,260
Yeah.

4605
02:14:07,640 --> 02:14:08,420
That's sound.

4606
02:14:08,420 --> 02:14:09,860
perception may be

4607
02:14:09,860 --> 02:14:11,340
that you cannot manage

4608
02:14:11,340 --> 02:14:12,200
those dual roles.

4609
02:14:12,440 --> 02:14:13,100
So do you think

4610
02:14:13,100 --> 02:14:13,820
you can ever get

4611
02:14:13,820 --> 02:14:14,940
the public perception

4612
02:14:14,940 --> 02:14:15,820
and the public trust

4613
02:14:15,820 --> 02:14:17,320
back again after this?

4614
02:14:17,420 --> 02:14:18,420
Well, it's quite funny

4615
02:14:18,420 --> 02:14:19,680
because, you know,

4616
02:14:19,740 --> 02:14:20,780
I've been at events

4617
02:14:20,780 --> 02:14:22,640
since this story broke

4618
02:14:22,640 --> 02:14:23,540
on Saturday week

4619
02:14:23,540 --> 02:14:24,420
or whenever it was,

4620
02:14:24,580 --> 02:14:25,920
with hundreds of people.

4621
02:14:26,040 --> 02:14:28,620
I was doing a televised event

4622
02:14:28,620 --> 02:14:29,580
for Virgin Mary

4623
02:14:29,580 --> 02:14:30,300
and the Greyhounds.

4624
02:14:30,840 --> 02:14:32,080
And I met thousands of people.

4625
02:14:32,580 --> 02:14:33,260
And genuinely,

4626
02:14:33,480 --> 02:14:34,180
I meet people.

4627
02:14:34,480 --> 02:14:35,340
And people text me

4628
02:14:35,340 --> 02:14:35,880
and people tell me that.

4629
02:14:36,260 --> 02:14:37,640
They think this is

4630
02:14:37,640 --> 02:14:38,990
an absolute media political

4631
02:14:38,990 --> 02:14:39,380
bubble.

4632
02:14:39,700 --> 02:14:39,740
It is.

4633
02:14:39,740 --> 02:14:41,280
They absolutely understand

4634
02:14:41,280 --> 02:14:42,580
all the interests

4635
02:14:42,580 --> 02:14:43,640
that I've tried to manage

4636
02:14:43,640 --> 02:14:45,400
and they actually understand it.

4637
02:14:45,400 --> 02:14:47,380
And the hysteria,

4638
02:14:47,620 --> 02:14:48,360
as I would call it,

4639
02:14:48,460 --> 02:14:48,720
It's ridiculous.

4640
02:14:48,720 --> 02:14:49,840
My glamour-gasted nature

4641
02:14:49,840 --> 02:14:51,620
is all inside that bubble.

4642
02:14:51,960 --> 02:14:52,380
It's ridiculous.

4643
02:14:52,640 --> 02:14:52,800
But look,

4644
02:14:52,840 --> 02:14:53,880
I've always taken the view

4645
02:14:53,880 --> 02:14:55,360
from the first controversy

4646
02:14:55,360 --> 02:14:57,000
I was in at 18 years of age.

4647
02:14:57,380 --> 02:14:57,980
You know what?

4648
02:14:58,220 --> 02:14:59,360
The public have to make up

4649
02:14:59,360 --> 02:15:00,040
their own mind.

4650
02:15:00,240 --> 02:15:01,120
And I'm quite happy

4651
02:15:01,120 --> 02:15:02,140
to live or die

4652
02:15:02,140 --> 02:15:03,280
by what the public think.

4653
02:15:04,060 --> 02:15:05,140
Was there a day

4654
02:15:05,140 --> 02:15:05,940
where you...

4655
02:15:05,940 --> 02:15:06,080
Very good.

4656
02:15:06,400 --> 02:15:06,960
Very good.

4657
02:15:07,120 --> 02:15:08,080
Very secure.

4658
02:15:08,840 --> 02:15:09,540
...in one day

4659
02:15:09,540 --> 02:15:11,100
and also then went on

4660
02:15:11,100 --> 02:15:12,000
to news talk

4661
02:15:12,000 --> 02:15:12,720
because we have

4662
02:15:12,720 --> 02:15:13,580
particular dates

4663
02:15:13,580 --> 02:15:14,260
where you worked

4664
02:15:14,260 --> 02:15:16,720
coaching Jim Gavin

4665
02:15:16,720 --> 02:15:18,080
from the 23rd

4666
02:15:18,080 --> 02:15:19,300
to the 29th of September

4667
02:15:19,300 --> 02:15:21,140
and you also sat in the chair

4668
02:15:21,140 --> 02:15:22,200
in news talk

4669
02:15:22,200 --> 02:15:23,420
from the 23rd

4670
02:15:23,420 --> 02:15:24,680
to the 25th.

4671
02:15:24,680 --> 02:15:25,940
Was there a particular day

4672
02:15:25,940 --> 02:15:26,940
where you did both

4673
02:15:26,940 --> 02:15:27,600
in the one day?

4674
02:15:27,960 --> 02:15:29,180
So the situation is

4675
02:15:29,180 --> 02:15:30,100
as I alluded to

4676
02:15:30,100 --> 02:15:30,880
in my opening statement...

4677
02:15:30,880 --> 02:15:32,100
I wonder can I watch this...

4678
02:15:32,100 --> 02:15:33,600
...that particular man...

4679
02:15:33,600 --> 02:15:34,680
...from the gooser.

4680
02:15:35,680 --> 02:15:36,780
Just see if I can get

4681
02:15:36,780 --> 02:15:37,500
inside the gooser.

4682
02:15:37,620 --> 02:15:38,800
I'd feel a lot more comfortable.

4683
02:15:38,940 --> 02:15:39,760
I'd just feel a little bit

4684
02:15:39,760 --> 02:15:40,360
too exposed

4685
02:15:40,360 --> 02:15:41,220
and it's not my...

4686
02:15:41,220 --> 02:15:42,380
This isn't my background.

4687
02:15:42,560 --> 02:15:43,780
This is a Francis Higgins

4688
02:15:43,780 --> 02:15:46,180
computer chronicles

4689
02:15:46,180 --> 02:15:46,940
watch-along

4690
02:15:46,940 --> 02:15:48,500
background.

4691
02:15:48,500 --> 02:15:51,740
Such is the impromptu

4692
02:15:51,740 --> 02:15:52,720
nature of this.

4693
02:15:53,620 --> 02:15:54,760
I wonder can I

4694
02:15:54,760 --> 02:15:55,880
incorporate that

4695
02:15:55,880 --> 02:15:57,420
into the...

4696
02:15:57,420 --> 02:15:58,380
the gooser.

4697
02:15:58,720 --> 02:16:00,280
Maybe just at the top

4698
02:16:00,280 --> 02:16:01,300
of Adelaide Road

4699
02:16:01,300 --> 02:16:02,000
if we can.

4700
02:16:03,160 --> 02:16:04,360
Dungeon Goose.

4701
02:16:05,500 --> 02:16:06,560
That's great.

4702
02:16:06,560 --> 02:16:06,700
...

4703
02:16:06,700 --> 02:16:14,320
We can kill the jazz

4704
02:16:14,320 --> 02:16:17,040
for that.

4705
02:16:21,040 --> 02:16:21,440
And...

4706
02:16:21,440 --> 02:16:22,700
Let's see...

4707
02:16:22,700 --> 02:16:23,960
Can we put that...

4708
02:16:23,960 --> 02:16:24,800
there.

4709
02:16:25,900 --> 02:16:26,840
And then...

4710
02:16:26,840 --> 02:16:27,900
that there.

4711
02:16:28,740 --> 02:16:29,860
And then...

4712
02:16:29,860 --> 02:16:30,740
we can just...

4713
02:16:31,640 --> 02:16:32,740
increase...

4714
02:16:33,260 --> 02:16:33,880
the peace.

4715
02:16:34,740 --> 02:16:35,300
Oh, perfect.

4716
02:16:36,040 --> 02:16:36,220
Ha!

4717
02:16:36,580 --> 02:16:37,080
This is...

4718
02:16:37,080 --> 02:16:38,180
This is brilliant for me.

4719
02:16:38,480 --> 02:16:38,740
Uh...

4720
02:16:39,940 --> 02:16:41,460
This is fantastic for me.

4721
02:16:41,580 --> 02:16:42,040
This is...

4722
02:16:42,040 --> 02:16:42,900
This is my dream

4723
02:16:42,900 --> 02:16:43,900
Friday afternoon,

4724
02:16:44,020 --> 02:16:44,280
actually,

4725
02:16:44,400 --> 02:16:45,560
just sitting in the gooser

4726
02:16:45,560 --> 02:16:46,740
watching...

4727
02:16:46,740 --> 02:16:48,740
Yates crush and dominate...

4728
02:16:49,640 --> 02:16:50,980
in a select committee hearing.

4729
02:16:53,240 --> 02:16:54,840
...and all those matters

4730
02:16:54,840 --> 02:16:55,740
of those three days...

4731
02:16:56,400 --> 02:16:57,740
and my remarks from...

4732
02:16:57,740 --> 02:16:58,840
smearing the vijazos

4733
02:16:58,840 --> 02:17:00,000
right across...

4734
02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:00,400
and my...

4735
02:17:00,400 --> 02:17:02,020
my discussions on RTE...

4736
02:17:02,020 --> 02:17:02,680
Sounds...

4737
02:17:02,680 --> 02:17:03,560
sounded like he said

4738
02:17:03,560 --> 02:17:05,120
smearing the vijazos.

4739
02:17:05,300 --> 02:17:05,860
...pundit...

4740
02:17:05,860 --> 02:17:07,080
are all subject

4741
02:17:07,080 --> 02:17:07,900
to commission a man.

4742
02:17:08,540 --> 02:17:08,900
And...

4743
02:17:08,900 --> 02:17:09,300
Then a B...

4744
02:17:09,300 --> 02:17:10,020
B and a V

4745
02:17:10,020 --> 02:17:11,100
sometimes do sound

4746
02:17:11,100 --> 02:17:12,220
a little bit...

4747
02:17:12,220 --> 02:17:13,300
interchangeable...

4748
02:17:13,300 --> 02:17:13,580
uh...

4749
02:17:13,580 --> 02:17:15,420
in certain speech patterns.

4750
02:17:15,600 --> 02:17:16,340
...and a man are...

4751
02:17:16,340 --> 02:17:17,280
are given the statutory

4752
02:17:17,280 --> 02:17:18,680
responsibility...

4753
02:17:18,680 --> 02:17:19,460
to deal with that.

4754
02:17:19,540 --> 02:17:20,520
And I'm quite happy

4755
02:17:20,520 --> 02:17:21,600
to make whatever

4756
02:17:21,600 --> 02:17:22,960
presentation they want

4757
02:17:22,960 --> 02:17:24,380
to give evidence to them.

4758
02:17:24,480 --> 02:17:25,480
I'll assist...

4759
02:17:25,480 --> 02:17:26,140
News Talk and RTE...

4760
02:17:26,140 --> 02:17:26,600
Who's that?

4761
02:17:26,600 --> 02:17:27,740
in any way of clarifying

4762
02:17:27,740 --> 02:17:29,260
any issues they're unsure...

4763
02:17:29,260 --> 02:17:31,100
But I'm not going to litigate

4764
02:17:31,100 --> 02:17:32,820
those issues...

4765
02:17:32,820 --> 02:17:33,080
uh...

4766
02:17:33,080 --> 02:17:33,680
here tonight.

4767
02:17:33,940 --> 02:17:34,920
Because I believe...

4768
02:17:34,920 --> 02:17:34,920
It's a very...

4769
02:17:34,920 --> 02:17:36,660
It's a very easy question is...

4770
02:17:36,660 --> 02:17:36,980
you know...

4771
02:17:36,980 --> 02:17:37,980
Did you do the two jobs

4772
02:17:37,980 --> 02:17:38,540
in the one day?

4773
02:17:38,660 --> 02:17:39,120
Well sorry...

4774
02:17:39,120 --> 02:17:39,950
but that leads to other

4775
02:17:39,950 --> 02:17:40,780
questions...

4776
02:17:40,780 --> 02:17:41,260
and so on.

4777
02:17:41,340 --> 02:17:42,280
And so therefore...

4778
02:17:42,280 --> 02:17:43,340
I'm making it clear...

4779
02:17:43,340 --> 02:17:44,880
where I'm drawing the line...

4780
02:17:44,880 --> 02:17:45,720
in the stand...

4781
02:17:45,720 --> 02:17:46,040
uh...

4782
02:17:46,040 --> 02:17:47,460
as someone who's not compelled...

4783
02:17:47,460 --> 02:17:48,080
to be here...

4784
02:17:48,080 --> 02:17:48,760
to say...

4785
02:17:48,760 --> 02:17:50,760
I am absolutely...

4786
02:17:50,760 --> 02:17:52,260
open to scrutiny...

4787
02:17:52,260 --> 02:17:52,680
for that.

4788
02:17:52,760 --> 02:17:53,840
But there's a process...

4789
02:17:53,840 --> 02:17:55,340
already in place...

4790
02:17:55,340 --> 02:17:56,640
where commission a man...

4791
02:17:56,640 --> 02:17:57,140
who were with...

4792
02:17:57,140 --> 02:17:57,880
before you today...

4793
02:17:57,880 --> 02:17:58,680
who actually told this

4794
02:17:58,680 --> 02:17:59,460
committee...

4795
02:17:59,460 --> 02:18:00,460
they are reviewing...

4796
02:18:00,460 --> 02:18:01,600
that very matter...

4797
02:18:01,600 --> 02:18:01,900
and...

4798
02:18:01,900 --> 02:18:03,420
and I'm quite happy...

4799
02:18:03,420 --> 02:18:03,800
to...

4800
02:18:03,800 --> 02:18:04,800
uh...

4801
02:18:04,800 --> 02:18:06,420
deal with their adjudication...

4802
02:18:06,420 --> 02:18:07,880
accept their adjudication...

4803
02:18:07,880 --> 02:18:09,440
and whatever they may conclude...

4804
02:18:09,440 --> 02:18:10,080
about all that...

4805
02:18:10,080 --> 02:18:10,880
because there's so many...

4806
02:18:10,880 --> 02:18:11,700
other questions...

4807
02:18:11,700 --> 02:18:12,340
but...

4808
02:18:12,340 --> 02:18:14,120
the only thing I can say is...

4809
02:18:14,120 --> 02:18:15,700
I have always believed...

4810
02:18:15,700 --> 02:18:16,920
no matter what I did...

4811
02:18:16,920 --> 02:18:17,660
in the evening...

4812
02:18:17,660 --> 02:18:18,600
or the morning...

4813
02:18:18,600 --> 02:18:19,800
in relation to the radio...

4814
02:18:19,800 --> 02:18:21,460
that I have always acted...

4815
02:18:21,460 --> 02:18:22,400
with fairness...

4816
02:18:22,400 --> 02:18:23,760
and objectivity...

4817
02:18:23,760 --> 02:18:24,560
and if anyone wants...

4818
02:18:24,560 --> 02:18:25,340
to make a complaint...

4819
02:18:25,340 --> 02:18:26,320
that something I said...

4820
02:18:26,320 --> 02:18:27,320
was unfair...

4821
02:18:27,320 --> 02:18:29,000
or lacking in objectivity...

4822
02:18:29,000 --> 02:18:30,320
there's a due process...

4823
02:18:30,320 --> 02:18:31,220
to deal with that.

4824
02:18:31,340 --> 02:18:32,800
There is a due process...

4825
02:18:32,800 --> 02:18:33,740
and I love it...

4826
02:18:33,740 --> 02:18:35,360
I love the way he's handling

4827
02:18:35,360 --> 02:18:36,320
this...

4828
02:18:36,320 --> 02:18:37,120
very...

4829
02:18:37,120 --> 02:18:38,400
very competently indeed...

4830
02:18:39,360 --> 02:18:40,400
laying down the law...

4831
02:18:41,140 --> 02:18:43,140
setting the scene...

4832
02:18:43,140 --> 02:18:45,040
and painting the picture...

4833
02:18:45,040 --> 02:18:46,420
that needed to be painted...

4834
02:18:46,420 --> 02:18:47,140
after the...

4835
02:18:47,140 --> 02:18:48,200
the hatchet job.

4836
02:18:48,340 --> 02:18:49,380
The quiet of your own kitchen...

4837
02:18:49,380 --> 02:18:50,680
or driving home in your own car...

4838
02:18:50,680 --> 02:18:52,040
you never once thought...

4839
02:18:52,040 --> 02:18:53,880
there may be a conflict here...

4840
02:18:53,880 --> 02:18:55,000
if this comes out...

4841
02:18:55,000 --> 02:18:56,000
people are going to...

4842
02:18:56,000 --> 02:18:57,140
have mistrust...

4843
02:18:57,800 --> 02:18:58,260
or...

4844
02:18:58,260 --> 02:18:59,160
we may have to look...

4845
02:18:59,160 --> 02:19:00,140
at the entire...

4846
02:19:00,140 --> 02:19:00,920
I really...

4847
02:19:00,920 --> 02:19:01,600
Senator...

4848
02:19:01,600 --> 02:19:02,900
I really can't be responsible...

4849
02:19:02,900 --> 02:19:04,200
for public perceptions...

4850
02:19:04,200 --> 02:19:05,560
I can only be responsible...

4851
02:19:05,560 --> 02:19:07,140
for my own actions...

4852
02:19:07,140 --> 02:19:07,580
and...

4853
02:19:07,580 --> 02:19:09,180
as far as I'm concerned...

4854
02:19:09,180 --> 02:19:10,320
there is nothing...

4855
02:19:10,320 --> 02:19:10,580
God...

4856
02:19:10,580 --> 02:19:11,140
I did...

4857
02:19:11,140 --> 02:19:12,580
in any of the spheres...

4858
02:19:12,580 --> 02:19:14,120
that conflicted me...

4859
02:19:14,120 --> 02:19:15,060
in my mind...

4860
02:19:15,060 --> 02:19:16,800
of giving my honest opinions...

4861
02:19:16,800 --> 02:19:17,260
on things...

4862
02:19:17,260 --> 02:19:19,020
but can I just make one point...

4863
02:19:19,020 --> 02:19:19,560
One...

4864
02:19:19,560 --> 02:19:20,860
about the Pat Kenny show...

4865
02:19:20,860 --> 02:19:22,580
if you actually knew...

4866
02:19:22,580 --> 02:19:23,760
the way the Pat Kenny show

4867
02:19:23,760 --> 02:19:24,580
works...

4868
02:19:25,240 --> 02:19:26,180
so I would get up...

4869
02:19:26,180 --> 02:19:27,360
at five in the morning...

4870
02:19:27,360 --> 02:19:28,900
and I'd be there at seven...

4871
02:19:28,900 --> 02:19:29,860
there'd be nine...

4872
02:19:29,860 --> 02:19:30,680
early riser...

4873
02:19:30,680 --> 02:19:31,160
briefs...

4874
02:19:31,160 --> 02:19:32,580
and three stories of the day...

4875
02:19:32,580 --> 02:19:32,920
where they...

4876
02:19:32,920 --> 02:19:34,580
if you knew...

4877
02:19:34,580 --> 02:19:35,380
Ema Bradley...

4878
02:19:35,380 --> 02:19:36,260
the editor of that...

4879
02:19:36,260 --> 02:19:37,260
for the last 12 years...

4880
02:19:37,260 --> 02:19:38,540
she's one of the most...

4881
02:19:38,540 --> 02:19:39,920
dominant editors...

4882
02:19:39,920 --> 02:19:41,020
I ever came across...

4883
02:19:41,020 --> 02:19:41,820
the content...

4884
02:19:41,820 --> 02:19:42,540
the guests...

4885
02:19:42,540 --> 02:19:43,320
the tone...

4886
02:19:43,320 --> 02:19:45,140
are all decided...

4887
02:19:45,140 --> 02:19:46,200
by her...

4888
02:19:46,200 --> 02:19:47,420
her two producers...

4889
02:19:47,420 --> 02:19:48,440
and I actually feel...

4890
02:19:48,440 --> 02:19:49,240
all of this...

4891
02:19:49,240 --> 02:19:50,240
for those three days...

4892
02:19:50,240 --> 02:19:51,280
in question...

4893
02:19:51,280 --> 02:19:53,000
have actually completely...

4894
02:19:53,000 --> 02:19:55,400
left their integrity exposed...

4895
02:19:55,400 --> 02:19:56,480
because...

4896
02:19:56,480 --> 02:19:57,480
in my view...

4897
02:19:57,480 --> 02:19:59,280
I was simply under orders...

4898
02:19:59,280 --> 02:20:00,280
and they control...

4899
02:20:00,280 --> 02:20:01,680
the editorial policy...

4900
02:20:01,680 --> 02:20:02,800
of those programmes...

4901
02:20:02,800 --> 02:20:04,300
and I can absolutely...

4902
02:20:04,300 --> 02:20:05,120
assure you...

4903
02:20:05,120 --> 02:20:06,600
that they act impartial...

4904
02:20:06,600 --> 02:20:07,780
lovely stuff...

4905
02:20:07,780 --> 02:20:08,760
getting in...

4906
02:20:08,760 --> 02:20:10,340
the collateral damage...

4907
02:20:10,340 --> 02:20:11,200
that has occurred...

4908
02:20:11,200 --> 02:20:12,780
in a professional context...

4909
02:20:12,780 --> 02:20:13,320
as well...

4910
02:20:13,320 --> 02:20:13,680
it's...

4911
02:20:13,680 --> 02:20:15,520
it's really helping the case...

4912
02:20:15,520 --> 02:20:16,700
we also didn't...

4913
02:20:16,700 --> 02:20:17,360
spoke about...

4914
02:20:17,360 --> 02:20:18,000
you said...

4915
02:20:18,000 --> 02:20:18,740
you're surprised...

4916
02:20:18,740 --> 02:20:19,780
you're flabbergasted...

4917
02:20:19,780 --> 02:20:20,880
at the reaction to this...

4918
02:20:20,880 --> 02:20:21,860
but there is a reaction...

4919
02:20:21,860 --> 02:20:22,580
and we are here...

4920
02:20:22,580 --> 02:20:23,640
where we are here now...

4921
02:20:23,640 --> 02:20:24,620
and there may have to be...

4922
02:20:24,620 --> 02:20:26,120
changes in the regulations...

4923
02:20:26,120 --> 02:20:27,020
if there are...

4924
02:20:27,020 --> 02:20:28,780
would that put you off now...

4925
02:20:28,780 --> 02:20:30,460
from being a media trainer...

4926
02:20:30,460 --> 02:20:31,340
slash...

4927
02:20:31,340 --> 02:20:31,940
commentator...

4928
02:20:31,940 --> 02:20:33,580
let's be clear...

4929
02:20:33,580 --> 02:20:34,740
I'm 66...

4930
02:20:34,740 --> 02:20:35,560
two weeks ago...

4931
02:20:35,560 --> 02:20:37,400
I got my free travel pass...

4932
02:20:37,400 --> 02:20:39,000
I'm living in Enniscorthy...

4933
02:20:39,000 --> 02:20:40,660
I would have to live full time...

4934
02:20:40,660 --> 02:20:41,500
I took...

4935
02:20:41,500 --> 02:20:42,620
of my own volition...

4936
02:20:42,620 --> 02:20:44,080
a decision to leave...

4937
02:20:44,080 --> 02:20:44,840
broadcasting...

4938
02:20:44,840 --> 02:20:46,220
I never expected...

4939
02:20:46,220 --> 02:20:46,560
I'd be back...

4940
02:20:46,560 --> 02:20:47,060
he's...

4941
02:20:47,060 --> 02:20:48,520
for 66...

4942
02:20:48,520 --> 02:20:49,080
fucking great...

4943
02:20:49,080 --> 02:20:50,200
whatever I do in the future...

4944
02:20:50,200 --> 02:20:51,180
you wouldn't think...

4945
02:20:51,180 --> 02:20:52,220
and also...

4946
02:20:52,220 --> 02:20:52,520
I mean...

4947
02:20:52,520 --> 02:20:53,260
but it won't be...

4948
02:20:53,260 --> 02:20:54,720
it feels like he's got...

4949
02:20:54,720 --> 02:20:56,160
a lot of fire left...

4950
02:20:56,160 --> 02:20:56,700
you know...

4951
02:20:56,700 --> 02:20:58,160
any chat about him...

4952
02:20:58,160 --> 02:20:59,160
leaving broadcasting...

4953
02:20:59,160 --> 02:21:00,720
is an absolute loss...

4954
02:21:00,720 --> 02:21:02,680
it's broadcasting's loss...

4955
02:21:02,680 --> 02:21:03,400
he needs to...

4956
02:21:03,400 --> 02:21:04,480
he needs to go alone...

4957
02:21:04,480 --> 02:21:05,620
he needs to do his own...

4958
02:21:05,620 --> 02:21:06,440
path to power...

4959
02:21:06,440 --> 02:21:06,940
truth...

4960
02:21:06,940 --> 02:21:08,120
truth to power...

4961
02:21:08,120 --> 02:21:09,140
is what it should be...

4962
02:21:09,140 --> 02:21:10,070
it's only if they're really

4963
02:21:10,070 --> 02:21:10,700
stuck...

4964
02:21:10,700 --> 02:21:11,820
and I'm available...

4965
02:21:11,820 --> 02:21:12,760
that I'll do it...

4966
02:21:12,760 --> 02:21:13,160
you know...

4967
02:21:13,160 --> 02:21:13,880
as a kind of...

4968
02:21:13,880 --> 02:21:14,660
busman's holiday...

4969
02:21:14,660 --> 02:21:15,660
so I take it...

4970
02:21:15,660 --> 02:21:15,960
so I take it...

4971
02:21:15,960 --> 02:21:17,220
then you won't be running again...

4972
02:21:17,220 --> 02:21:18,580
for election...

4973
02:21:18,580 --> 02:21:20,060
I've no desire to run for

4974
02:21:20,060 --> 02:21:21,400
election...

4975
02:21:21,400 --> 02:21:21,680
no...

4976
02:21:21,680 --> 02:21:22,440
gore maha gud...

4977
02:21:22,440 --> 02:21:24,380
Senator Nicola...

4978
02:21:24,380 --> 02:21:25,380
thank you Ivan...

4979
02:21:25,380 --> 02:21:26,140
thank you Ivan...

4980
02:21:26,140 --> 02:21:26,700
for attending...

4981
02:21:26,700 --> 02:21:27,060
as you say...

4982
02:21:27,060 --> 02:21:28,060
and as everybody else has said...

4983
02:21:28,060 --> 02:21:28,940
you didn't have to...

4984
02:21:28,940 --> 02:21:29,400
and you're here...

4985
02:21:29,400 --> 02:21:30,100
so that's great...

4986
02:21:30,100 --> 02:21:31,260
I actually happen to think...

4987
02:21:31,260 --> 02:21:32,660
that the crux of...

4988
02:21:32,660 --> 02:21:33,420
everything that we're

4989
02:21:33,420 --> 02:21:34,380
discussing here...

4990
02:21:34,380 --> 02:21:36,380
was...

4991
02:21:36,380 --> 02:21:37,900
was essentially dealt with...

4992
02:21:37,900 --> 02:21:38,380
or exposed...

4993
02:21:39,140 --> 02:21:39,460
if you want...

4994
02:21:39,460 --> 02:21:40,320
in the earlier session...

4995
02:21:40,320 --> 02:21:41,380
a session that had less...

4996
02:21:41,940 --> 02:21:42,980
that had less...

4997
02:21:42,980 --> 02:21:44,200
interest possibly...

4998
02:21:44,200 --> 02:21:45,300
less public interest...

4999
02:21:45,300 --> 02:21:46,700
less member attendance as well...

5000
02:21:46,700 --> 02:21:47,660
but I think...

5001
02:21:47,660 --> 02:21:48,840
that the regulatory gap...

5002
02:21:48,840 --> 02:21:50,840
he lived to 120...

5003
02:21:50,840 --> 02:21:52,120
there it says...

5004
02:21:52,120 --> 02:21:54,360
Mr. Man...

5005
02:21:54,360 --> 02:21:55,700
I think he just...

5006
02:21:55,700 --> 02:21:57,840
it really does feel like...

5007
02:21:57,840 --> 02:21:59,060
you know...

5008
02:21:59,060 --> 02:22:00,700
just from watching him...

5009
02:22:00,700 --> 02:22:02,000
competently battle...

5010
02:22:02,000 --> 02:22:03,000
a way like this...

5011
02:22:03,000 --> 02:22:03,700
that...

5012
02:22:03,700 --> 02:22:05,300
he's at least 10 years...

5013
02:22:05,300 --> 02:22:07,000
less than what he is...

5014
02:22:07,000 --> 02:22:07,700
do you know...

5015
02:22:09,820 --> 02:22:11,700
hopefully he does live to 120...

5016
02:22:12,320 --> 02:22:13,020
it gives us...

5017
02:22:13,020 --> 02:22:14,700
a lot more time...

5018
02:22:14,700 --> 02:22:15,700
to consider...

5019
02:22:15,700 --> 02:22:16,320
to consider...

5020
02:22:16,320 --> 02:22:17,700
some brand new moves...

5021
02:22:17,700 --> 02:22:18,820
I was 20 years...

5022
02:22:18,820 --> 02:22:19,540
a broadcaster...

5023
02:22:19,540 --> 02:22:21,000
I was often called a pundit...

5024
02:22:21,000 --> 02:22:22,120
and the difference...

5025
02:22:22,120 --> 02:22:22,800
the key difference...

5026
02:22:22,800 --> 02:22:23,380
between a pundit...

5027
02:22:23,380 --> 02:22:24,640
and a presenter...

5028
02:22:24,640 --> 02:22:26,120
is that I did not...

5029
02:22:26,120 --> 02:22:26,960
give an opinion...

5030
02:22:26,960 --> 02:22:27,600
it was my job...

5031
02:22:27,600 --> 02:22:28,540
to not have an opinion...

5032
02:22:28,540 --> 02:22:29,200
and not give one...

5033
02:22:29,200 --> 02:22:29,840
so...

5034
02:22:29,840 --> 02:22:30,680
sometimes...

5035
02:22:30,680 --> 02:22:31,360
the general public...

5036
02:22:31,360 --> 02:22:32,420
don't know the difference...

5037
02:22:32,420 --> 02:22:33,300
or don't understand...

5038
02:22:33,300 --> 02:22:33,960
fully the difference...

5039
02:22:33,960 --> 02:22:35,060
between a full-time broadcaster...

5040
02:22:35,060 --> 02:22:36,300
too much...

5041
02:22:36,300 --> 02:22:36,700
she's...

5042
02:22:36,700 --> 02:22:38,220
she needs actually...

5043
02:22:38,220 --> 02:22:39,660
she actually could do...

5044
02:22:39,660 --> 02:22:40,300
with training...

5045
02:22:40,300 --> 02:22:41,300
actually all the panel...

5046
02:22:41,300 --> 02:22:42,120
could do with training...

5047
02:22:42,120 --> 02:22:43,100
from Ivan...

5048
02:22:43,100 --> 02:22:44,220
on how to...

5049
02:22:44,220 --> 02:22:44,700
podcast...

5050
02:22:44,700 --> 02:22:45,920
really hit the...

5051
02:22:45,920 --> 02:22:47,020
the notes...

5052
02:22:47,020 --> 02:22:48,240
and wrap it up...

5053
02:22:48,240 --> 02:22:49,820
in a nice concise...

5054
02:22:49,820 --> 02:22:50,520
manner...

5055
02:22:50,520 --> 02:22:51,360
because...

5056
02:22:51,360 --> 02:22:52,280
it's too wordy...

5057
02:22:52,280 --> 02:22:53,020
at the moment...

5058
02:22:53,020 --> 02:22:54,640
already I'd say...

5059
02:22:54,640 --> 02:22:55,640
Ivan is...

5060
02:22:55,640 --> 02:22:56,800
thinking...

5061
02:22:56,800 --> 02:22:58,320
this is easy...

5062
02:22:58,320 --> 02:22:59,680
because she's lost...

5063
02:22:59,680 --> 02:23:00,140
the audience...

5064
02:23:00,140 --> 02:23:02,320
as did the other two...

5065
02:23:02,320 --> 02:23:04,200
and I can just...

5066
02:23:04,200 --> 02:23:05,480
I can just keep...

5067
02:23:05,480 --> 02:23:06,540
speaking after this...

5068
02:23:06,540 --> 02:23:07,460
and it's gonna sound...

5069
02:23:07,460 --> 02:23:08,120
again...

5070
02:23:08,120 --> 02:23:09,020
like water...

5071
02:23:09,020 --> 02:23:09,780
coming out of a tap...

5072
02:23:09,780 --> 02:23:10,400
it's gonna be fine...

5073
02:23:10,400 --> 02:23:11,400
I didn't have the information...

5074
02:23:11,400 --> 02:23:13,740
of your relationship...

5075
02:23:13,740 --> 02:23:14,700
or lack thereof...

5076
02:23:14,700 --> 02:23:15,740
or whatever relationship...

5077
02:23:15,740 --> 02:23:16,820
you had with...

5078
02:23:16,820 --> 02:23:17,400
Jim Gavin...

5079
02:23:17,400 --> 02:23:18,400
or Fianna Fáil...

5080
02:23:18,400 --> 02:23:19,160
so...

5081
02:23:19,160 --> 02:23:20,220
it's just around...

5082
02:23:20,220 --> 02:23:20,800
making sure...

5083
02:23:20,800 --> 02:23:21,500
the general public...

5084
02:23:21,500 --> 02:23:22,360
have the information...

5085
02:23:22,360 --> 02:23:23,040
that maybe you and I...

5086
02:23:23,040 --> 02:23:24,340
have inherently...

5087
02:23:24,340 --> 02:23:25,620
I think that's the gap...

5088
02:23:25,620 --> 02:23:26,660
that I would identify...

5089
02:23:26,660 --> 02:23:26,920
I have a question...

5090
02:23:26,920 --> 02:23:27,900
about podcasting...

5091
02:23:27,900 --> 02:23:28,900
and the future...

5092
02:23:28,900 --> 02:23:30,260
regulation of podcasting...

5093
02:23:30,260 --> 02:23:31,340
and I heard...

5094
02:23:31,340 --> 02:23:32,680
Deputy Malcolm Byrne...

5095
02:23:32,680 --> 02:23:33,680
and I heard yourself...

5096
02:23:33,680 --> 02:23:34,340
Chairman...

5097
02:23:34,340 --> 02:23:35,140
summing up...

5098
02:23:35,140 --> 02:23:35,680
the meeting...

5099
02:23:35,680 --> 02:23:36,660
I was on the train...

5100
02:23:36,660 --> 02:23:37,240
I couldn't hear...

5101
02:23:37,240 --> 02:23:38,120
all the meeting...

5102
02:23:38,120 --> 02:23:39,640
but I have to say...

5103
02:23:39,640 --> 02:23:40,780
I just want to agree...

5104
02:23:40,780 --> 02:23:41,980
to disagree here...

5105
02:23:41,980 --> 02:23:42,900
so when I started...

5106
02:23:42,900 --> 02:23:43,500
the podcast...

5107
02:23:43,500 --> 02:23:44,180
I'd never done...

5108
02:23:44,180 --> 02:23:45,560
I'd done calling it...

5109
02:23:45,560 --> 02:23:47,300
which was a specific thing...

5110
02:23:47,300 --> 02:23:48,440
Wordy McWords...

5111
02:23:48,440 --> 02:23:49,680
thank you very much...

5112
02:23:49,680 --> 02:23:50,980
but this was new...

5113
02:23:50,980 --> 02:23:52,500
a big commitment...

5114
02:23:52,500 --> 02:23:53,660
for me to do it...

5115
02:23:53,660 --> 02:23:54,480
so I checked out...

5116
02:23:54,480 --> 02:23:55,350
what was the regulatory

5117
02:23:55,350 --> 02:23:56,160
situation...

5118
02:23:56,160 --> 02:23:57,360
and basically...

5119
02:23:57,360 --> 02:23:59,400
defamation law...

5120
02:23:59,400 --> 02:24:01,040
incitement to hatred...

5121
02:24:01,040 --> 02:24:01,540
were the...

5122
02:24:01,540 --> 02:24:01,860
you know...

5123
02:24:01,860 --> 02:24:03,860
the normal language...

5124
02:24:03,860 --> 02:24:05,540
there was no regulations...

5125
02:24:05,540 --> 02:24:06,820
podcasts weren't licensed...

5126
02:24:06,820 --> 02:24:07,660
or whatever...

5127
02:24:07,660 --> 02:24:08,520
and so people have said...

5128
02:24:08,520 --> 02:24:09,480
well this is a gap...

5129
02:24:09,480 --> 02:24:11,160
and we need to fill this gap...

5130
02:24:11,160 --> 02:24:12,940
I couldn't disagree more...

5131
02:24:12,940 --> 02:24:14,280
from this point of view...

5132
02:24:14,280 --> 02:24:14,600
Strong...

5133
02:24:14,600 --> 02:24:15,120
I find...

5134
02:24:15,120 --> 02:24:16,000
whether it's spoiled votes...

5135
02:24:16,000 --> 02:24:16,320
or anything...

5136
02:24:16,320 --> 02:24:17,740
there's a huge alienation...

5137
02:24:17,740 --> 02:24:19,160
from the mainstream media...

5138
02:24:19,160 --> 02:24:20,400
and podcasts are filling...

5139
02:24:20,400 --> 02:24:21,880
filling this gap...

5140
02:24:21,880 --> 02:24:23,120
and to be honest with you...

5141
02:24:23,120 --> 02:24:24,520
one of the things I used to do...

5142
02:24:24,520 --> 02:24:26,080
was look at the charts...

5143
02:24:26,080 --> 02:24:27,700
on the Apple podcast...

5144
02:24:27,700 --> 02:24:28,760
charts every week...

5145
02:24:28,760 --> 02:24:29,120
great...

5146
02:24:29,120 --> 02:24:30,080
number one was usually...

5147
02:24:30,080 --> 02:24:30,900
Vogue Williams...

5148
02:24:30,900 --> 02:24:31,320
we were...

5149
02:24:31,320 --> 02:24:32,380
we were number two...

5150
02:24:32,380 --> 02:24:33,180
great podcast...

5151
02:24:33,180 --> 02:24:34,080
my main competitor...

5152
02:24:34,080 --> 02:24:35,280
the rest is politics...

5153
02:24:35,280 --> 02:24:36,400
two Johnnies...

5154
02:24:36,400 --> 02:24:37,760
two Johnnies...

5155
02:24:37,760 --> 02:24:38,960
are on a different...

5156
02:24:38,960 --> 02:24:39,640
but like...

5157
02:24:39,640 --> 02:24:40,440
the point is this...

5158
02:24:40,440 --> 02:24:41,500
again with the two...

5159
02:24:41,500 --> 02:24:42,640
with the snide...

5160
02:24:42,640 --> 02:24:44,460
little snide remarks...

5161
02:24:44,460 --> 02:24:45,280
although...

5162
02:24:45,280 --> 02:24:46,600
maybe he just is a fan...

5163
02:24:46,600 --> 02:24:48,980
of the two Johnnies podcast...

5164
02:24:48,980 --> 02:24:49,700
but I didn't think...

5165
02:24:49,700 --> 02:24:50,240
two Johnnies...

5166
02:24:50,240 --> 02:24:51,210
were going to get a mention

5167
02:24:51,210 --> 02:24:51,840
here...

5168
02:24:51,840 --> 02:24:52,480
I mean...

5169
02:24:52,480 --> 02:24:54,000
Ivan did name check...

5170
02:24:54,000 --> 02:24:55,460
the rest is politics...

5171
02:24:55,460 --> 02:24:58,140
which is the Alistair Campbell...

5172
02:24:58,140 --> 02:24:59,140
thing...

5173
02:24:59,140 --> 02:25:00,140
you know...

5174
02:25:01,640 --> 02:25:05,140
Gary Lineker has a stable of...

5175
02:25:05,140 --> 02:25:09,140
of mainstream podcasts...

5176
02:25:09,140 --> 02:25:10,140
and...

5177
02:25:10,140 --> 02:25:12,140
that would be a popular one...

5178
02:25:12,140 --> 02:25:14,820
Alistair Campbell...

5179
02:25:14,820 --> 02:25:15,820
who...

5180
02:25:15,820 --> 02:25:17,820
confidently led the country...

5181
02:25:17,820 --> 02:25:18,820
to war...

5182
02:25:19,460 --> 02:25:19,820
now speaks...

5183
02:25:19,820 --> 02:25:21,080
as a pundit...

5184
02:25:21,080 --> 02:25:22,820
about the country's...

5185
02:25:22,820 --> 02:25:23,820
politics...

5186
02:25:24,820 --> 02:25:26,820
over in England...

5187
02:25:26,820 --> 02:25:28,160
or the UK...

5188
02:25:28,160 --> 02:25:28,820
whatever...

5189
02:25:28,820 --> 02:25:29,820
so...

5190
02:25:30,820 --> 02:25:31,820
I mean...

5191
02:25:31,820 --> 02:25:33,820
it's not as if he's up against...

5192
02:25:33,820 --> 02:25:34,820
the most reputable...

5193
02:25:34,820 --> 02:25:35,500
of...

5194
02:25:35,500 --> 02:25:37,500
of competition...

5195
02:25:37,500 --> 02:25:37,500
competition...

5196
02:25:37,500 --> 02:25:40,500
but...

5197
02:25:40,500 --> 02:25:41,740
great to hear a mention there...

5198
02:25:41,740 --> 02:25:42,880
for Vogue Williams...

5199
02:25:42,880 --> 02:25:43,500
and...

5200
02:25:43,500 --> 02:25:45,500
the two Johnnies...

5201
02:25:45,500 --> 02:25:46,760
I'm not sure if we...

5202
02:25:46,760 --> 02:25:48,300
see the player is not great...

5203
02:25:48,300 --> 02:25:48,940
for skipping back...

5204
02:25:48,940 --> 02:25:50,620
I'll cast charts every week...

5205
02:25:50,620 --> 02:25:51,820
number one was usually...

5206
02:25:51,820 --> 02:25:52,620
Vogue Williams...

5207
02:25:52,620 --> 02:25:53,040
we were...

5208
02:25:53,040 --> 02:25:53,500
we were number two...

5209
02:25:53,500 --> 02:25:54,960
and in politics...

5210
02:25:54,960 --> 02:25:55,800
my main competitor...

5211
02:25:55,800 --> 02:25:56,500
the rest is politics...

5212
02:25:56,500 --> 02:25:57,500
the two Johnnies...

5213
02:25:57,500 --> 02:25:58,180
two Johnnies...

5214
02:25:58,180 --> 02:25:58,680
no...

5215
02:25:58,680 --> 02:25:59,560
the two Johnnies...

5216
02:25:59,560 --> 02:26:00,680
are on a different...

5217
02:26:00,680 --> 02:26:01,960
that was a dig...

5218
02:26:01,960 --> 02:26:02,660
such...

5219
02:26:02,660 --> 02:26:03,600
such a...

5220
02:26:03,600 --> 02:26:04,360
he...

5221
02:26:04,360 --> 02:26:05,160
he...

5222
02:26:05,160 --> 02:26:07,620
gotta hand it to him...

5223
02:26:07,620 --> 02:26:09,080
he loved saying that...

5224
02:26:09,080 --> 02:26:09,900
do you know...

5225
02:26:09,900 --> 02:26:11,540
as if...

5226
02:26:11,540 --> 02:26:12,380
Yates...

5227
02:26:12,380 --> 02:26:13,840
wasn't able...

5228
02:26:13,840 --> 02:26:14,440
to...

5229
02:26:14,440 --> 02:26:16,040
swing with the big boys...

5230
02:26:16,040 --> 02:26:17,040
of politics...

5231
02:26:17,040 --> 02:26:18,640
and he belonged...

5232
02:26:18,640 --> 02:26:19,480
in a stable...

5233
02:26:19,480 --> 02:26:20,900
with comedians...

5234
02:26:20,900 --> 02:26:21,440
and...

5235
02:26:22,220 --> 02:26:23,540
he really enjoyed...

5236
02:26:23,540 --> 02:26:24,500
that little dig...

5237
02:26:24,500 --> 02:26:25,000
as well...

5238
02:26:25,000 --> 02:26:26,440
and I did as well...

5239
02:26:26,440 --> 02:26:28,440
I did as well...

5240
02:26:30,500 --> 02:26:31,720
is this...

5241
02:26:31,720 --> 02:26:32,380
they're outside...

5242
02:26:32,380 --> 02:26:33,680
the jurisdiction...

5243
02:26:33,680 --> 02:26:35,300
how will you control...

5244
02:26:35,300 --> 02:26:35,660
like...

5245
02:26:35,660 --> 02:26:36,480
we have people...

5246
02:26:36,480 --> 02:26:37,560
listening to Path to Power...

5247
02:26:37,560 --> 02:26:38,500
in Australia...

5248
02:26:38,500 --> 02:26:40,200
this is a global phenomenon...

5249
02:26:40,200 --> 02:26:40,640
so...

5250
02:26:40,640 --> 02:26:41,380
the Joe Broly...

5251
02:26:41,380 --> 02:26:42,440
does it from Derry...

5252
02:26:42,440 --> 02:26:42,920
like...

5253
02:26:42,920 --> 02:26:44,620
there's no way...

5254
02:26:44,620 --> 02:26:46,440
THE Joe Broly...

5255
02:26:46,440 --> 02:26:48,440
does it from Derry...

5256
02:26:49,660 --> 02:26:49,980
uh...

5257
02:26:49,980 --> 02:26:50,340
it's...

5258
02:26:50,340 --> 02:26:50,860
it's great stuff...

5259
02:26:50,860 --> 02:26:51,920
that you could police...

5260
02:26:51,920 --> 02:26:52,760
it's actually...

5261
02:26:52,760 --> 02:26:53,560
it's actually...

5262
02:26:53,560 --> 02:26:53,900
it's...

5263
02:26:53,900 --> 02:26:55,320
it's getting good here...

5264
02:26:55,320 --> 02:26:56,060
just needs to show...

5265
02:26:56,060 --> 02:26:56,720
that...

5266
02:26:56,720 --> 02:26:57,720
the emphasis...

5267
02:26:57,720 --> 02:26:59,180
on THE Joe Broly...

5268
02:26:59,180 --> 02:27:00,220
and that smile...

5269
02:27:00,220 --> 02:27:01,220
as well...

5270
02:27:01,220 --> 02:27:02,220
that damn smile...

5271
02:27:04,220 --> 02:27:04,780
see...

5272
02:27:04,780 --> 02:27:05,600
this is...

5273
02:27:05,600 --> 02:27:06,700
it kind of cheapens...

5274
02:27:06,700 --> 02:27:07,320
and lessens...

5275
02:27:07,320 --> 02:27:08,760
the entire committee...

5276
02:27:08,760 --> 02:27:10,220
when the lads...

5277
02:27:10,220 --> 02:27:11,420
are just...

5278
02:27:11,420 --> 02:27:12,220
making little wisecracks...

5279
02:27:12,920 --> 02:27:13,220
and jests...

5280
02:27:14,080 --> 02:27:14,220
and japes...

5281
02:27:15,680 --> 02:27:17,280
at Ivan's expense...

5282
02:27:17,280 --> 02:27:18,220
but I tell ya...

5283
02:27:18,220 --> 02:27:19,220
Ivan just fuckin'...

5284
02:27:20,340 --> 02:27:21,460
he has the class...

5285
02:27:21,460 --> 02:27:22,220
the gravitas...

5286
02:27:22,860 --> 02:27:23,220
and...

5287
02:27:24,060 --> 02:27:24,420
you know...

5288
02:27:24,420 --> 02:27:25,800
the nature...

5289
02:27:25,800 --> 02:27:26,800
which...

5290
02:27:26,800 --> 02:27:27,800
shows...

5291
02:27:27,800 --> 02:27:29,800
shows these guys...

5292
02:27:29,800 --> 02:27:30,040
for...

5293
02:27:30,040 --> 02:27:31,220
for who they are...

5294
02:27:31,220 --> 02:27:31,680
I think...

5295
02:27:31,680 --> 02:27:32,120
but like...

5296
02:27:32,120 --> 02:27:33,900
the point is this...

5297
02:27:33,900 --> 02:27:34,540
they're outside...

5298
02:27:34,540 --> 02:27:35,800
the jurisdiction...

5299
02:27:35,800 --> 02:27:37,480
how will you control...

5300
02:27:37,480 --> 02:27:37,800
like...

5301
02:27:37,800 --> 02:27:38,660
we have people...

5302
02:27:38,660 --> 02:27:39,720
listening to Path to Power...

5303
02:27:39,720 --> 02:27:40,580
in Australia...

5304
02:27:40,580 --> 02:27:42,340
this is a global phenomenon...

5305
02:27:42,340 --> 02:27:42,800
so...

5306
02:27:42,800 --> 02:27:43,540
the Joe Broly...

5307
02:27:43,540 --> 02:27:44,620
does it from Derry...

5308
02:27:44,620 --> 02:27:45,080
like...

5309
02:27:45,080 --> 02:27:46,300
there's no way...

5310
02:27:46,300 --> 02:27:47,040
in my view...

5311
02:27:47,040 --> 02:27:48,260
that you could police...

5312
02:27:48,260 --> 02:27:49,460
the rest is politics...

5313
02:27:49,460 --> 02:27:50,620
it's done from London...

5314
02:27:50,620 --> 02:27:51,740
or the rest is politics...

5315
02:27:51,740 --> 02:27:52,260
America...

5316
02:27:52,260 --> 02:27:53,620
will be done from New York...

5317
02:27:53,620 --> 02:27:54,960
it is a fantasy...

5318
02:27:54,960 --> 02:27:56,240
to think you can do that...

5319
02:27:56,240 --> 02:27:56,440
but...

5320
02:27:56,440 --> 02:27:57,900
but more especially...

5321
02:27:57,900 --> 02:27:58,100
like...

5322
02:27:58,100 --> 02:27:59,620
and I'll give you an example...

5323
02:27:59,620 --> 02:27:59,780
like...

5324
02:27:59,780 --> 02:28:00,220
I would...

5325
02:28:00,220 --> 02:28:01,740
if I was doing...

5326
02:28:01,740 --> 02:28:02,520
presenting...

5327
02:28:02,520 --> 02:28:03,260
or if I was even...

5328
02:28:03,260 --> 02:28:04,220
on Morning Ireland...

5329
02:28:04,220 --> 02:28:05,480
I would speak in a certain way...

5330
02:28:05,480 --> 02:28:06,560
so we'll just take something...

5331
02:28:06,560 --> 02:28:07,660
to do with you chairman...

5332
02:28:07,660 --> 02:28:08,920
just off the top of my head...

5333
02:28:08,920 --> 02:28:09,340
nice...

5334
02:28:09,340 --> 02:28:10,100
so if I was saying...

5335
02:28:10,100 --> 02:28:10,800
say row...

5336
02:28:10,800 --> 02:28:11,760
about Catherine Connolly...

5337
02:28:11,760 --> 02:28:12,920
and Alan Kelly...

5338
02:28:12,920 --> 02:28:14,200
if I was speaking...

5339
02:28:14,200 --> 02:28:15,040
on the podcast...

5340
02:28:15,040 --> 02:28:15,840
I'd call you AK-47...

5341
02:28:15,840 --> 02:28:17,280
simply because...

5342
02:28:17,280 --> 02:28:18,280
it's colloquial...

5343
02:28:18,280 --> 02:28:20,100
it's a different language...

5344
02:28:20,100 --> 02:28:21,520
and it's more gossipy...

5345
02:28:21,520 --> 02:28:22,940
and people love it...

5346
02:28:22,940 --> 02:28:23,640
he loves that...

5347
02:28:23,640 --> 02:28:24,260
it's less...

5348
02:28:24,260 --> 02:28:26,060
and he loves that as well...

5349
02:28:26,060 --> 02:28:28,720
AK-47 loves that as well...

5350
02:28:28,720 --> 02:28:29,580
and it's a great...

5351
02:28:29,580 --> 02:28:30,260
it's just a...

5352
02:28:30,260 --> 02:28:30,720
another...

5353
02:28:30,720 --> 02:28:31,580
yet another great...

5354
02:28:31,580 --> 02:28:32,620
strategy...

5355
02:28:32,620 --> 02:28:33,380
from Ivan...

5356
02:28:33,380 --> 02:28:34,500
to bring in...

5357
02:28:34,500 --> 02:28:35,340
the detractors...

5358
02:28:35,340 --> 02:28:36,140
he knows that...

5359
02:28:36,140 --> 02:28:37,220
AK here...

5360
02:28:37,220 --> 02:28:38,060
AK-47...

5361
02:28:38,060 --> 02:28:39,820
is a bit of a live wire...

5362
02:28:39,820 --> 02:28:40,340
with the...

5363
02:28:40,340 --> 02:28:41,600
the side-eye...

5364
02:28:41,600 --> 02:28:43,500
about U-Tree infotainment...

5365
02:28:43,500 --> 02:28:44,260
and then...

5366
02:28:44,260 --> 02:28:44,820
the...

5367
02:28:44,820 --> 02:28:45,260
quip...

5368
02:28:45,260 --> 02:28:45,940
about the...

5369
02:28:45,940 --> 02:28:46,360
two...

5370
02:28:46,360 --> 02:28:47,500
Johnnies...

5371
02:28:47,500 --> 02:28:48,020
so...

5372
02:28:48,020 --> 02:28:48,880
Ivan Yates...

5373
02:28:48,880 --> 02:28:49,380
is just...

5374
02:28:49,380 --> 02:28:50,060
letting him know...

5375
02:28:50,060 --> 02:28:50,680
he's there...

5376
02:28:50,680 --> 02:28:50,920
you know...

5377
02:28:50,920 --> 02:28:51,710
he's leaving a little bit on

5378
02:28:51,710 --> 02:28:52,160
him...

5379
02:28:52,160 --> 02:28:54,400
with the AK-47...

5380
02:28:54,400 --> 02:28:55,200
because I know...

5381
02:28:55,200 --> 02:28:55,760
deep down...

5382
02:28:55,760 --> 02:28:56,680
that Ivan Yates...

5383
02:28:56,680 --> 02:28:57,800
doesn't believe...

5384
02:28:57,800 --> 02:28:58,320
that...

5385
02:28:58,320 --> 02:28:59,420
he has the caliber...

5386
02:28:59,420 --> 02:29:00,560
to be...

5387
02:29:00,560 --> 02:29:01,760
a Kalashnikov...

5388
02:29:01,760 --> 02:29:03,380
he would probably...

5389
02:29:03,380 --> 02:29:04,260
probably just like...

5390
02:29:04,260 --> 02:29:06,120
one of those...

5391
02:29:06,120 --> 02:29:07,120
silenced...

5392
02:29:07,120 --> 02:29:07,880
pistols...

5393
02:29:07,880 --> 02:29:08,300
that he used...

5394
02:29:08,300 --> 02:29:09,460
to take down the zombies...

5395
02:29:09,460 --> 02:29:10,200
in DayZ...

5396
02:29:10,200 --> 02:29:11,340
which I've been watching...

5397
02:29:11,340 --> 02:29:12,220
Tommy play...

5398
02:29:12,220 --> 02:29:12,720
by the way...

5399
02:29:12,720 --> 02:29:13,640
you know...

5400
02:29:13,640 --> 02:29:14,500
I don't think he...

5401
02:29:14,500 --> 02:29:15,500
he believes that he...

5402
02:29:15,500 --> 02:29:17,440
he has the rank...

5403
02:29:17,440 --> 02:29:18,260
and capability...

5404
02:29:18,260 --> 02:29:19,260
of a Kalashnikov...

5405
02:29:19,260 --> 02:29:20,240
thank you very much there...

5406
02:29:20,240 --> 02:29:21,820
Conor Regula...

5407
02:29:21,820 --> 02:29:22,680
Tor Williams...

5408
02:29:22,680 --> 02:29:23,580
thank you very much...

5409
02:29:23,580 --> 02:29:24,620
Regulator Williams...

5410
02:29:24,620 --> 02:29:26,260
thank you very much there...

5411
02:29:26,260 --> 02:29:26,680
yeah...

5412
02:29:26,680 --> 02:29:28,560
the slaps are being thrown now...

5413
02:29:28,560 --> 02:29:29,940
the slaps are being dished out...

5414
02:29:29,940 --> 02:29:31,020
hopefully it gets juicier...

5415
02:29:31,020 --> 02:29:32,020
PC...

5416
02:29:32,020 --> 02:29:32,560
and so therefore...

5417
02:29:32,560 --> 02:29:32,960
yes...

5418
02:29:32,960 --> 02:29:33,280
sorry...

5419
02:29:33,280 --> 02:29:35,160
to ban that conversation...

5420
02:29:35,160 --> 02:29:35,960
in my view...

5421
02:29:35,960 --> 02:29:37,220
would be a big mistake...

5422
02:29:37,220 --> 02:29:37,900
sorry...

5423
02:29:37,900 --> 02:29:38,380
sorry...

5424
02:29:38,380 --> 02:29:38,900
the bells are ringing...

5425
02:29:38,900 --> 02:29:39,540
for a Shannon vote...

5426
02:29:39,540 --> 02:29:40,140
so I'm going to have to go

5427
02:29:40,140 --> 02:29:40,700
upstairs...

5428
02:29:40,700 --> 02:29:41,560
but I think...

5429
02:29:41,560 --> 02:29:42,480
the point I was...

5430
02:29:42,480 --> 02:29:45,200
what kind of set up is this...

5431
02:29:45,200 --> 02:29:46,040
bells are ringing...

5432
02:29:46,040 --> 02:29:46,920
for the Shannon...

5433
02:29:46,920 --> 02:29:48,340
there's an important...

5434
02:29:48,340 --> 02:29:49,780
meeting going on...

5435
02:29:49,780 --> 02:29:50,180
here...

5436
02:29:50,180 --> 02:29:51,020
it's been televised...

5437
02:29:52,020 --> 02:29:54,600
and you have to...

5438
02:29:54,600 --> 02:29:55,460
you have to leave...

5439
02:29:55,460 --> 02:29:56,020
trying to make...

5440
02:29:56,020 --> 02:29:56,800
was actually around...

5441
02:29:56,800 --> 02:29:58,120
that specific...

5442
02:29:58,120 --> 02:29:59,780
case of...

5443
02:29:59,780 --> 02:30:00,580
a presidential...

5444
02:30:00,580 --> 02:30:01,880
or a general election...

5445
02:30:01,880 --> 02:30:03,100
campaign...

5446
02:30:03,100 --> 02:30:04,600
like I'm not talking about...

5447
02:30:04,600 --> 02:30:04,920
regulate...

5448
02:30:04,920 --> 02:30:06,420
like the regulatory...

5449
02:30:06,420 --> 02:30:08,060
framework for...

5450
02:30:08,060 --> 02:30:09,340
like global podcasts...

5451
02:30:09,340 --> 02:30:09,780
is a norm...

5452
02:30:09,780 --> 02:30:11,020
people just...

5453
02:30:11,020 --> 02:30:11,700
getting up...

5454
02:30:11,700 --> 02:30:12,720
and walking out...

5455
02:30:12,720 --> 02:30:13,420
and...

5456
02:30:13,420 --> 02:30:14,300
it's...

5457
02:30:14,300 --> 02:30:15,500
it's as if it doesn't matter...

5458
02:30:15,500 --> 02:30:17,180
it's as if everything here...

5459
02:30:17,180 --> 02:30:18,420
that we're watching is...

5460
02:30:18,420 --> 02:30:20,020
is meaningless waffle...

5461
02:30:20,020 --> 02:30:22,000
which it's not...

5462
02:30:22,000 --> 02:30:24,260
very important stuff...

5463
02:30:24,260 --> 02:30:24,480
wait...

5464
02:30:24,480 --> 02:30:25,240
that's not really...

5465
02:30:25,240 --> 02:30:25,780
what I'm getting at...

5466
02:30:25,780 --> 02:30:26,900
what I'm getting at here is...

5467
02:30:26,900 --> 02:30:28,680
a very specific incident...

5468
02:30:28,680 --> 02:30:30,100
whereby...

5469
02:30:30,100 --> 02:30:31,340
somebody could train...

5470
02:30:31,340 --> 02:30:32,300
a potential...

5471
02:30:32,300 --> 02:30:33,680
next president...

5472
02:30:33,680 --> 02:30:35,240
in relation to media...

5473
02:30:35,240 --> 02:30:36,040
and then...

5474
02:30:36,040 --> 02:30:36,720
on the same day...

5475
02:30:36,720 --> 02:30:38,320
or the same week...

5476
02:30:38,320 --> 02:30:38,960
present...

5477
02:30:38,960 --> 02:30:39,940
essentially present...

5478
02:30:39,940 --> 02:30:41,280
or broadcast...

5479
02:30:41,280 --> 02:30:41,960
as...

5480
02:30:41,960 --> 02:30:43,160
a political...

5481
02:30:43,160 --> 02:30:44,320
but that's a separate point...

5482
02:30:44,320 --> 02:30:45,100
to podcasting...

5483
02:30:45,100 --> 02:30:46,080
I thought your question...

5484
02:30:46,080 --> 02:30:46,860
was about podcasting...

5485
02:30:46,860 --> 02:30:47,900
well it's about podcasting...

5486
02:30:47,900 --> 02:30:48,860
but it's about presenting...

5487
02:30:48,860 --> 02:30:49,340
a segment...

5488
02:30:49,340 --> 02:30:50,280
so what I'm saying to you is...

5489
02:30:50,280 --> 02:30:51,420
not everyone understands...

5490
02:30:51,420 --> 02:30:51,980
the difference between...

5491
02:30:51,980 --> 02:30:52,640
being a broadcaster...

5492
02:30:52,640 --> 02:30:53,740
and being a podcaster...

5493
02:30:53,740 --> 02:30:54,240
I think...

5494
02:30:54,240 --> 02:30:55,860
it's so confusing...

5495
02:30:55,860 --> 02:30:57,320
the question has lost...

5496
02:30:57,320 --> 02:30:58,600
the run of itself here...

5497
02:30:58,600 --> 02:30:59,420
and we're...

5498
02:30:59,420 --> 02:31:01,080
we're left asking questions...

5499
02:31:01,080 --> 02:31:02,000
as to what the hell...

5500
02:31:02,000 --> 02:31:03,020
is going on...

5501
02:31:03,020 --> 02:31:04,220
it's a waffle house...

5502
02:31:04,220 --> 02:31:05,740
as somebody's just said there...

5503
02:31:05,740 --> 02:31:07,240
Sean Bean...

5504
02:31:07,240 --> 02:31:08,360
thank you very...

5505
02:31:08,360 --> 02:31:09,360
very much for your tip there...

5506
02:31:09,360 --> 02:31:09,700
you've driven...

5507
02:31:09,700 --> 02:31:10,360
you've driven...

5508
02:31:10,360 --> 02:31:11,160
you've driven...

5509
02:31:11,160 --> 02:31:12,360
all you can drive...

5510
02:31:12,360 --> 02:31:13,320
Sean Bean...

5511
02:31:13,320 --> 02:31:14,460
thank you very much...

5512
02:31:14,460 --> 02:31:15,040
and Deco...

5513
02:31:15,040 --> 02:31:16,840
thank you very...

5514
02:31:16,840 --> 02:31:17,680
very much...

5515
02:31:17,680 --> 02:31:19,140
there for the tip...

5516
02:31:19,140 --> 02:31:20,540
I've been alerted...

5517
02:31:20,540 --> 02:31:21,440
to that as well...

5518
02:31:21,440 --> 02:31:22,740
I'll be checking out...

5519
02:31:22,740 --> 02:31:23,440
the mural...

5520
02:31:23,440 --> 02:31:24,280
and passing...

5521
02:31:24,280 --> 02:31:25,340
the knowledge on...

5522
02:31:25,340 --> 02:31:26,220
to Tommy Schlug...

5523
02:31:26,220 --> 02:31:27,280
soon enough...

5524
02:31:27,280 --> 02:31:28,760
let's just carry on...

5525
02:31:28,760 --> 02:31:29,620
with this...

5526
02:31:29,620 --> 02:31:30,580
in a political sense...

5527
02:31:30,580 --> 02:31:31,700
and during an election campaign...

5528
02:31:31,700 --> 02:31:32,460
I think there should be...

5529
02:31:32,460 --> 02:31:33,740
actually a quite specific case...

5530
02:31:33,740 --> 02:31:34,900
of regulation...

5531
02:31:34,900 --> 02:31:35,340
well...

5532
02:31:35,340 --> 02:31:36,100
all I'm saying...

5533
02:31:36,100 --> 02:31:37,360
the essence to me...

5534
02:31:37,360 --> 02:31:38,380
of podcasting...

5535
02:31:38,380 --> 02:31:39,600
and I don't have a podcast...

5536
02:31:39,600 --> 02:31:40,300
at the moment...

5537
02:31:40,300 --> 02:31:41,820
is personal expression...

5538
02:31:41,820 --> 02:31:42,280
of opinion...

5539
02:31:42,280 --> 02:31:43,200
and it's done on Apple...

5540
02:31:43,200 --> 02:31:44,280
and Spotify...

5541
02:31:44,280 --> 02:31:44,820
and...

5542
02:31:44,820 --> 02:31:45,180
like...

5543
02:31:45,180 --> 02:31:45,860
one of the things...

5544
02:31:45,860 --> 02:31:46,580
I took from...

5545
02:31:46,580 --> 02:31:47,200
it's...

5546
02:31:47,200 --> 02:31:48,340
it's done on Apple...

5547
02:31:48,340 --> 02:31:49,320
and Spotify...

5548
02:31:49,320 --> 02:31:50,260
he can go alone though...

5549
02:31:50,260 --> 02:31:51,080
he can just...

5550
02:31:51,080 --> 02:31:52,500
launch his own podcast...

5551
02:31:52,500 --> 02:31:53,220
he doesn't need...

5552
02:31:53,220 --> 02:31:54,040
those guys...

5553
02:31:54,040 --> 02:31:55,260
and I think...

5554
02:31:55,260 --> 02:31:56,620
it's true in EU law...

5555
02:31:56,620 --> 02:31:57,880
and it's certainly true...

5556
02:31:57,880 --> 02:31:59,660
freedom of expression...

5557
02:31:59,660 --> 02:32:02,200
is the most important thing...

5558
02:32:02,200 --> 02:32:03,920
in Irish society...

5559
02:32:03,920 --> 02:32:05,160
and if you start...

5560
02:32:05,160 --> 02:32:06,960
to limit freedom of expression...

5561
02:32:06,960 --> 02:32:08,160
to putting...

5562
02:32:09,380 --> 02:32:09,900
podcasts...

5563
02:32:09,900 --> 02:32:11,020
onto the 2009...

5564
02:32:11,020 --> 02:32:11,940
and subsequent broadcasting

5565
02:32:11,940 --> 02:32:12,440
acts...

5566
02:32:12,440 --> 02:32:13,400
in my view...

5567
02:32:13,400 --> 02:32:14,540
it will be a disaster...

5568
02:32:14,540 --> 02:32:15,580
like you could decide...

5569
02:32:15,580 --> 02:32:16,680
and how inappropriate is it...

5570
02:32:16,680 --> 02:32:17,720
say this committee...

5571
02:32:17,720 --> 02:32:19,280
or group decided that...

5572
02:32:19,280 --> 02:32:19,480
Go on!

5573
02:32:19,480 --> 02:32:20,980
Eddie Hobbes' counterpoint...

5574
02:32:20,980 --> 02:32:21,780
podcast...

5575
02:32:21,780 --> 02:32:22,660
was outrageous...

5576
02:32:22,660 --> 02:32:23,420
maybe saying...

5577
02:32:23,420 --> 02:32:24,320
anti-vaccines...

5578
02:32:24,320 --> 02:32:25,000
or whatever...

5579
02:32:25,000 --> 02:32:25,800
Eddie Hobbes...

5580
02:32:25,800 --> 02:32:27,020
one group of politicians...

5581
02:32:27,020 --> 02:32:27,920
decide on...

5582
02:32:27,920 --> 02:32:29,020
Eddie Hobbes...

5583
02:32:29,020 --> 02:32:31,080
has been mentioned...

5584
02:32:31,080 --> 02:32:33,140
sound the klaxon...

5585
02:32:33,140 --> 02:32:34,640
do we have...

5586
02:32:34,640 --> 02:32:36,140
a fucking Hobbes klaxon...

5587
02:32:36,140 --> 02:32:37,080
we need...

5588
02:32:37,080 --> 02:32:38,060
we need to get...

5589
02:32:38,060 --> 02:32:39,060
a fucking Hobbes klaxon...

5590
02:32:39,060 --> 02:32:40,140
we don't have one...

5591
02:32:40,140 --> 02:32:41,900
lovely stuff...

5592
02:32:41,900 --> 02:32:42,180
it's...

5593
02:32:42,180 --> 02:32:42,960
it's...

5594
02:32:42,960 --> 02:32:44,140
it's heating up...

5595
02:32:44,140 --> 02:32:46,960
and it's certainly true...

5596
02:32:46,960 --> 02:32:47,760
freedom...

5597
02:32:47,760 --> 02:32:48,140
of expression...

5598
02:32:48,720 --> 02:32:49,840
is the most...

5599
02:32:49,840 --> 02:32:51,260
important thing...

5600
02:32:51,260 --> 02:32:52,140
in Irish society...

5601
02:32:52,800 --> 02:32:54,240
and if you start...

5602
02:32:54,240 --> 02:32:54,980
to limit freedom...

5603
02:32:54,980 --> 02:32:56,020
of expression...

5604
02:32:56,020 --> 02:32:56,660
through...

5605
02:32:56,660 --> 02:32:57,820
putting...

5606
02:32:57,820 --> 02:32:58,900
podcasts...

5607
02:32:58,900 --> 02:33:00,080
onto the 2009...

5608
02:33:00,080 --> 02:33:00,680
and subsequent...

5609
02:33:00,680 --> 02:33:01,500
broadcasting acts...

5610
02:33:01,500 --> 02:33:02,460
in my view...

5611
02:33:02,460 --> 02:33:03,600
it will be a disaster...

5612
02:33:03,600 --> 02:33:04,660
like you could decide...

5613
02:33:04,660 --> 02:33:05,800
and how inappropriate is it...

5614
02:33:05,800 --> 02:33:06,640
say this committee...

5615
02:33:06,640 --> 02:33:07,460
look at that...

5616
02:33:07,460 --> 02:33:08,260
decided that...

5617
02:33:08,260 --> 02:33:10,060
Eddie Hobbes' counterpoint...

5618
02:33:10,060 --> 02:33:10,740
podcast...

5619
02:33:10,740 --> 02:33:11,720
was outrageous...

5620
02:33:11,720 --> 02:33:12,480
maybe saying...

5621
02:33:12,480 --> 02:33:13,380
anti-vaccines...

5622
02:33:13,380 --> 02:33:14,120
or whatever...

5623
02:33:14,120 --> 02:33:14,960
this is one group of

5624
02:33:14,960 --> 02:33:16,080
politicians...

5625
02:33:16,080 --> 02:33:16,980
decide on another...

5626
02:33:16,980 --> 02:33:18,320
political opinions...

5627
02:33:18,320 --> 02:33:19,380
it's outrageous...

5628
02:33:19,380 --> 02:33:19,900
it is...

5629
02:33:19,900 --> 02:33:20,560
being accepted...

5630
02:33:20,560 --> 02:33:20,920
and I...

5631
02:33:20,920 --> 02:33:21,420
I would...

5632
02:33:21,420 --> 02:33:23,060
fucking beautiful...

5633
02:33:23,060 --> 02:33:23,560
absolutely...

5634
02:33:23,560 --> 02:33:24,560
it's the one-two...

5635
02:33:24,560 --> 02:33:25,360
and the follow-up...

5636
02:33:25,360 --> 02:33:27,020
into the bread basket...

5637
02:33:27,020 --> 02:33:28,520
two on the chops...

5638
02:33:28,520 --> 02:33:29,880
one in the belly...

5639
02:33:29,880 --> 02:33:30,660
and great...

5640
02:33:30,660 --> 02:33:32,260
usage of the hands...

5641
02:33:32,260 --> 02:33:33,860
as well...

5642
02:33:33,860 --> 02:33:34,860
his hands are going...

5643
02:33:34,860 --> 02:33:36,340
95...

5644
02:33:36,340 --> 02:33:37,120
Eddie Hobbes...

5645
02:33:37,120 --> 02:33:38,980
is being summoned...

5646
02:33:38,980 --> 02:33:39,760
not only...

5647
02:33:39,760 --> 02:33:40,740
is Eddie Hobbes...

5648
02:33:40,740 --> 02:33:41,920
being summoned...

5649
02:33:41,920 --> 02:33:43,120
but he gets the title...

5650
02:33:43,120 --> 02:33:43,980
in of Eddie's...

5651
02:33:43,980 --> 02:33:45,000
podcast...

5652
02:33:45,000 --> 02:33:46,340
as well...

5653
02:33:46,340 --> 02:33:47,380
which I believe...

5654
02:33:47,380 --> 02:33:47,860
should be called...

5655
02:33:47,860 --> 02:33:49,280
the Hobbes cast...

5656
02:33:49,280 --> 02:33:49,960
but it's not...

5657
02:33:49,960 --> 02:33:51,880
it's counterpoints...

5658
02:33:51,880 --> 02:33:52,640
and...

5659
02:33:52,640 --> 02:33:55,640
it's fucking brilliant...

5660
02:33:55,640 --> 02:33:57,360
it's box office...

5661
02:33:57,360 --> 02:33:57,700
really...

5662
02:33:57,700 --> 02:33:57,940
sorry...

5663
02:33:57,940 --> 02:33:58,320
it's not...

5664
02:33:58,320 --> 02:33:58,740
it's beyond...

5665
02:33:58,740 --> 02:34:00,060
thank you very much there...

5666
02:34:00,060 --> 02:34:00,880
Nick...

5667
02:34:00,880 --> 02:34:01,660
for the tip...

5668
02:34:01,660 --> 02:34:01,980
it says...

5669
02:34:01,980 --> 02:34:03,840
Waffle the Wonder Dog...

5670
02:34:03,840 --> 02:34:04,740
thank you very much Nick...

5671
02:34:04,740 --> 02:34:05,320
very very kind...

5672
02:34:05,320 --> 02:34:06,540
my pay grade chairman...

5673
02:34:06,540 --> 02:34:07,800
it's a matter for the committee...

5674
02:34:07,800 --> 02:34:08,560
it's a matter for the...

5675
02:34:08,560 --> 02:34:10,080
and I respect that...

5676
02:34:10,080 --> 02:34:10,840
what the point is...

5677
02:34:10,840 --> 02:34:10,960
is...

5678
02:34:10,960 --> 02:34:12,480
if you want my tuppens worth...

5679
02:34:12,480 --> 02:34:13,380
on podcast...

5680
02:34:13,380 --> 02:34:14,060
is...

5681
02:34:14,060 --> 02:34:14,520
leave...

5682
02:34:14,520 --> 02:34:16,140
well enough alone...

5683
02:34:16,140 --> 02:34:18,180
Yates's Tuppence...

5684
02:34:18,180 --> 02:34:19,340
maybe...

5685
02:34:19,340 --> 02:34:20,240
Yates's Tuppence...

5686
02:34:20,240 --> 02:34:21,360
ha'penny...

5687
02:34:21,360 --> 02:34:22,580
just thinking of new names...

5688
02:34:22,580 --> 02:34:23,240
for the...

5689
02:34:23,240 --> 02:34:24,720
inevitable podcast...

5690
02:34:24,720 --> 02:34:25,520
that he has to do...

5691
02:34:25,520 --> 02:34:27,920
it'd be a damn shame...

5692
02:34:27,920 --> 02:34:29,020
if he does not rouse...

5693
02:34:29,020 --> 02:34:29,920
the pod demons...

5694
02:34:29,920 --> 02:34:31,320
after this...

5695
02:34:31,320 --> 02:34:32,180
or if...

5696
02:34:32,180 --> 02:34:32,680
maybe...

5697
02:34:32,680 --> 02:34:33,420
an appearance...

5698
02:34:33,420 --> 02:34:34,720
on Hobbes's Counterpoints...

5699
02:34:34,720 --> 02:34:35,660
as a thank you...

5700
02:34:35,660 --> 02:34:36,800
for mentioning it...

5701
02:34:36,800 --> 02:34:37,820
during the thing...

5702
02:34:37,820 --> 02:34:39,280
little sip of the water here...

5703
02:34:39,280 --> 02:34:41,160
it's a controlled...

5704
02:34:41,160 --> 02:34:41,800
technique...

5705
02:34:42,400 --> 02:34:43,880
it's just a kind of...

5706
02:34:43,880 --> 02:34:44,800
a code...

5707
02:34:44,800 --> 02:34:45,800
to a...

5708
02:34:45,800 --> 02:34:47,760
a flurry of...

5709
02:34:47,760 --> 02:34:48,540
a kind of tax...

5710
02:34:48,540 --> 02:34:50,680
that he's just laid out...

5711
02:34:50,680 --> 02:34:52,000
towards the state...

5712
02:34:52,000 --> 02:34:52,500
apparatus...

5713
02:34:52,500 --> 02:34:55,240
and now he...

5714
02:34:55,240 --> 02:34:56,500
he's earned that sip...

5715
02:34:57,100 --> 02:34:58,060
and he'll enjoy it...

5716
02:34:58,060 --> 02:34:58,720
I imagine...

5717
02:34:58,720 --> 02:34:59,420
I will...

5718
02:34:59,420 --> 02:35:00,720
leave well enough alone...

5719
02:35:00,720 --> 02:35:01,100
I...

5720
02:35:01,100 --> 02:35:02,380
I just really want...

5721
02:35:02,380 --> 02:35:03,420
he doesn't...

5722
02:35:03,420 --> 02:35:04,140
now he's taken it...

5723
02:35:04,140 --> 02:35:05,260
to express...

5724
02:35:05,260 --> 02:35:06,180
the opinion that...

5725
02:35:06,180 --> 02:35:07,260
informed decisions...

5726
02:35:07,260 --> 02:35:08,760
were very very important...

5727
02:35:08,760 --> 02:35:09,220
in this...

5728
02:35:09,220 --> 02:35:10,060
specific incident...

5729
02:35:10,060 --> 02:35:11,500
as Tuco says...

5730
02:35:11,500 --> 02:35:12,620
it gives...

5731
02:35:12,620 --> 02:35:13,580
the sip of water...

5732
02:35:13,580 --> 02:35:14,460
gives him time...

5733
02:35:14,460 --> 02:35:14,980
to think about...

5734
02:35:14,980 --> 02:35:16,560
the next attack...

5735
02:35:16,560 --> 02:35:17,320
but I do...

5736
02:35:17,320 --> 02:35:18,300
I really do feel like...

5737
02:35:18,300 --> 02:35:18,600
you know...

5738
02:35:18,600 --> 02:35:19,000
that we...

5739
02:35:19,000 --> 02:35:19,800
we dealt with it...

5740
02:35:19,800 --> 02:35:20,960
I hope I've answered...

5741
02:35:20,960 --> 02:35:21,340
your question...

5742
02:35:21,340 --> 02:35:21,860
you have...

5743
02:35:21,860 --> 02:35:22,060
you have...

5744
02:35:22,060 --> 02:35:24,360
what have we dealt with here...

5745
02:35:24,360 --> 02:35:25,160
and I think...

5746
02:35:25,160 --> 02:35:25,740
it's...

5747
02:35:25,740 --> 02:35:27,880
it's important...

5748
02:35:27,880 --> 02:35:28,880
that you are here...

5749
02:35:28,880 --> 02:35:29,200
and that you...

5750
02:35:29,200 --> 02:35:30,200
you have...

5751
02:35:30,200 --> 02:35:31,200
you have...

5752
02:35:31,200 --> 02:35:31,580
you have...

5753
02:35:31,580 --> 02:35:31,580
you have...

5754
02:35:31,580 --> 02:35:32,200
you have...

5755
02:35:32,200 --> 02:35:32,640
you have...

5756
02:35:32,640 --> 02:35:33,140
you have...

5757
02:35:33,140 --> 02:35:33,780
I could...

5758
02:35:33,780 --> 02:35:34,180
what?

5759
02:35:35,200 --> 02:35:35,840
how...

5760
02:35:35,840 --> 02:35:37,200
how far have we come here?

5761
02:35:37,560 --> 02:35:39,140
I don't understand...

5762
02:35:39,140 --> 02:35:40,980
where this has gone...

5763
02:35:40,980 --> 02:35:42,300
was this a good use...

5764
02:35:42,300 --> 02:35:44,040
of taxpayers' time...

5765
02:35:44,040 --> 02:35:44,580
this committee?

5766
02:35:45,380 --> 02:35:46,580
is it a good use...

5767
02:35:46,580 --> 02:35:47,440
of taxpayers' time?

5768
02:35:47,900 --> 02:35:49,700
I don't know...

5769
02:35:49,700 --> 02:35:50,880
it's bizarre stuff...

5770
02:35:50,880 --> 02:35:51,180
appear...

5771
02:35:51,180 --> 02:35:52,200
on...

5772
02:35:52,200 --> 02:35:53,600
and I've done guest appearances...

5773
02:35:53,600 --> 02:35:54,200
on podcasts...

5774
02:35:54,200 --> 02:35:55,340
which are not ostensibly...

5775
02:35:55,340 --> 02:35:56,000
about current affairs...

5776
02:35:56,000 --> 02:35:56,660
and politics...

5777
02:35:56,660 --> 02:35:57,400
but when I'm on...

5778
02:35:57,400 --> 02:35:58,260
it is about that...

5779
02:35:58,260 --> 02:35:59,260
so it's very hard...

5780
02:35:59,260 --> 02:36:00,040
to regulate...

5781
02:36:00,040 --> 02:36:00,460
what is...

5782
02:36:00,460 --> 02:36:01,320
is it Two Johnnies...

5783
02:36:01,320 --> 02:36:02,220
a current affairs podcast?

5784
02:36:02,400 --> 02:36:03,240
it might be...

5785
02:36:03,240 --> 02:36:04,340
if I was on it...

5786
02:36:04,340 --> 02:36:06,120
Two Johnnies...

5787
02:36:06,120 --> 02:36:06,780
and...

5788
02:36:06,780 --> 02:36:08,260
ex-Ivan Yates...

5789
02:36:09,380 --> 02:36:10,060
doing the...

5790
02:36:10,060 --> 02:36:11,260
fucking politics stuff...

5791
02:36:11,940 --> 02:36:12,520
I can't believe...

5792
02:36:12,520 --> 02:36:13,400
he's such a...

5793
02:36:13,400 --> 02:36:14,500
sly...

5794
02:36:14,500 --> 02:36:15,740
old dog Yates...

5795
02:36:15,740 --> 02:36:16,620
he's actually...

5796
02:36:16,620 --> 02:36:18,260
planting the seeds...

5797
02:36:19,020 --> 02:36:20,660
for what's to come...

5798
02:36:20,660 --> 02:36:21,260
counterpoints...

5799
02:36:22,080 --> 02:36:23,260
Hobbes...

5800
02:36:24,160 --> 02:36:25,000
Two Johnnies...

5801
02:36:25,000 --> 02:36:25,260
crossover...

5802
02:36:25,840 --> 02:36:26,260
politics...

5803
02:36:27,700 --> 02:36:29,240
fucking fantastic stuff...

5804
02:36:29,240 --> 02:36:29,400
and...

5805
02:36:29,400 --> 02:36:29,780
you know...

5806
02:36:29,780 --> 02:36:30,840
broccoli could turn into that

5807
02:36:30,840 --> 02:36:31,360
too...

5808
02:36:31,360 --> 02:36:32,740
and broccoli as well...

5809
02:36:32,740 --> 02:36:34,240
the broccoli cast...

5810
02:36:34,240 --> 02:36:34,760
so...

5811
02:36:34,760 --> 02:36:35,880
actually regulating...

5812
02:36:35,880 --> 02:36:37,260
what is current affairs...

5813
02:36:37,260 --> 02:36:39,440
is very difficult...

5814
02:36:39,440 --> 02:36:39,740
okay...

5815
02:36:39,740 --> 02:36:41,220
Deputy Byrne...

5816
02:36:41,220 --> 02:36:42,020
uh...

5817
02:36:42,020 --> 02:36:43,160
thank you very much chair...

5818
02:36:43,160 --> 02:36:44,000
and thank you Ivan...

5819
02:36:44,000 --> 02:36:44,840
for coming along...

5820
02:36:44,840 --> 02:36:45,360
uh...

5821
02:36:45,360 --> 02:36:45,760
I...

5822
02:36:45,760 --> 02:36:46,220
obviously...

5823
02:36:46,220 --> 02:36:46,580
a new...

5824
02:36:46,580 --> 02:36:47,980
a new contender...

5825
02:36:47,980 --> 02:36:49,300
enters the ring...

5826
02:36:49,300 --> 02:36:49,820
experts...

5827
02:36:49,820 --> 02:36:50,060
uh...

5828
02:36:50,060 --> 02:36:50,840
I've known Ivan...

5829
02:36:50,840 --> 02:36:51,980
for quite some time...

5830
02:36:51,980 --> 02:36:52,780
I did not receive...

5831
02:36:52,780 --> 02:36:53,660
she's left...

5832
02:36:53,660 --> 02:36:54,980
any media training...

5833
02:36:54,980 --> 02:36:55,240
um...

5834
02:36:55,240 --> 02:36:55,700
and I...

5835
02:36:55,700 --> 02:36:56,380
I don't think...

5836
02:36:56,380 --> 02:36:57,120
the issue...

5837
02:36:57,120 --> 02:36:58,360
Ivan is around the work...

5838
02:36:58,360 --> 02:36:59,020
that you do...

5839
02:36:59,020 --> 02:36:59,940
I do see the benefit...

5840
02:36:59,940 --> 02:37:00,720
of media training...

5841
02:37:00,720 --> 02:37:02,520
some people are not experienced...

5842
02:37:02,520 --> 02:37:03,440
at appearing...

5843
02:37:03,440 --> 02:37:03,780
uh...

5844
02:37:03,780 --> 02:37:04,780
before committee...

5845
02:37:04,780 --> 02:37:06,040
in a lot of cases...

5846
02:37:06,040 --> 02:37:07,920
you have a very good reputation...

5847
02:37:07,920 --> 02:37:08,720
I'd maybe ask...

5848
02:37:08,720 --> 02:37:09,980
in the case of Jim Gavin...

5849
02:37:09,980 --> 02:37:10,860
we might look for our money

5850
02:37:10,860 --> 02:37:11,440
back...

5851
02:37:11,440 --> 02:37:11,940
uh...

5852
02:37:11,940 --> 02:37:12,440
on...

5853
02:37:12,440 --> 02:37:12,840
uh...

5854
02:37:12,840 --> 02:37:14,520
on that one...

5855
02:37:14,520 --> 02:37:15,760
little dig there...

5856
02:37:15,760 --> 02:37:17,520
about the whole Gavin scenario...

5857
02:37:17,520 --> 02:37:18,740
um...

5858
02:37:18,740 --> 02:37:20,460
but I think I want to follow on...

5859
02:37:20,460 --> 02:37:20,760
uh...

5860
02:37:20,760 --> 02:37:21,340
and...

5861
02:37:21,340 --> 02:37:21,900
it was...

5862
02:37:21,900 --> 02:37:22,220
uh...

5863
02:37:22,220 --> 02:37:23,560
advanced on a questioning...

5864
02:37:23,560 --> 02:37:24,140
because the...

5865
02:37:24,140 --> 02:37:25,540
the point is about...

5866
02:37:25,540 --> 02:37:26,940
and you use the phrase yourself...

5867
02:37:26,940 --> 02:37:27,940
people will make up their own

5868
02:37:27,940 --> 02:37:28,540
mind...

5869
02:37:28,540 --> 02:37:29,680
and that's correct...

5870
02:37:29,680 --> 02:37:29,940
uh...

5871
02:37:29,940 --> 02:37:31,120
and I enjoyed listening...

5872
02:37:31,120 --> 02:37:32,340
to your podcast with Matt...

5873
02:37:32,340 --> 02:37:33,130
I agreed with you some of the

5874
02:37:33,130 --> 02:37:33,660
times...

5875
02:37:33,660 --> 02:37:34,740
other times I was...

5876
02:37:34,740 --> 02:37:35,220
shouting...

5877
02:37:35,220 --> 02:37:36,780
This is so meta...

5878
02:37:36,780 --> 02:37:38,560
says Oland B...

5879
02:37:38,560 --> 02:37:38,880
uh...

5880
02:37:38,880 --> 02:37:39,840
media training...

5881
02:37:39,840 --> 02:37:41,400
within media training...

5882
02:37:41,400 --> 02:37:42,400
and that's exactly why...

5883
02:37:42,400 --> 02:37:44,080
I wanted to watch it...

5884
02:37:44,080 --> 02:37:44,900
because that is...

5885
02:37:44,900 --> 02:37:46,840
that is the essence...

5886
02:37:46,840 --> 02:37:47,800
of what we're about...

5887
02:37:47,800 --> 02:37:48,880
is it not...

5888
02:37:48,880 --> 02:37:50,720
and it's the sweetest plum...

5889
02:37:50,720 --> 02:37:52,740
for him to be...

5890
02:37:52,740 --> 02:37:52,840
uh...

5891
02:37:52,840 --> 02:37:53,720
asked to appear...

5892
02:37:53,720 --> 02:37:54,660
like this...

5893
02:37:54,660 --> 02:37:54,880
uh...

5894
02:37:54,880 --> 02:37:56,720
in a kind of kangaroo court...

5895
02:37:56,720 --> 02:37:58,720
and for him to just...

5896
02:37:59,440 --> 02:37:59,720
pfff...

5897
02:37:59,720 --> 02:38:01,140
it's like nothing...

5898
02:38:01,140 --> 02:38:02,660
like water off a duck's back...

5899
02:38:02,660 --> 02:38:03,720
for it...

5900
02:38:03,720 --> 02:38:04,880
he dominates...

5901
02:38:04,880 --> 02:38:05,360
You know...

5902
02:38:05,360 --> 02:38:06,280
in...

5903
02:38:06,280 --> 02:38:06,520
in...

5904
02:38:06,520 --> 02:38:07,140
in my head...

5905
02:38:07,140 --> 02:38:08,080
about what was being said...

5906
02:38:08,080 --> 02:38:09,220
and that's part of...

5907
02:38:09,220 --> 02:38:10,720
the importance of a debate...

5908
02:38:10,720 --> 02:38:12,940
but it is around...

5909
02:38:12,940 --> 02:38:13,560
um...

5910
02:38:13,560 --> 02:38:14,140
you know...

5911
02:38:14,140 --> 02:38:15,300
people knowing exactly...

5912
02:38:15,300 --> 02:38:16,160
where someone is coming from...

5913
02:38:16,160 --> 02:38:17,620
and particularly...

5914
02:38:17,620 --> 02:38:18,900
if they have received...

5915
02:38:18,900 --> 02:38:20,020
payments...

5916
02:38:20,020 --> 02:38:20,640
and I know in...

5917
02:38:20,640 --> 02:38:21,720
in my case...

5918
02:38:21,720 --> 02:38:21,920
you know...

5919
02:38:21,920 --> 02:38:22,820
ever since I've been involved...

5920
02:38:22,820 --> 02:38:23,470
and I worked as a public

5921
02:38:23,470 --> 02:38:24,080
servant...

5922
02:38:24,080 --> 02:38:25,520
and as a counsellor...

5923
02:38:25,520 --> 02:38:26,590
when it came to conflicts of

5924
02:38:26,590 --> 02:38:27,340
interest...

5925
02:38:27,340 --> 02:38:28,120
I always said...

5926
02:38:28,120 --> 02:38:29,590
if I ask the question in my

5927
02:38:29,590 --> 02:38:30,540
head...

5928
02:38:30,540 --> 02:38:32,500
then I feel I should declare it...

5929
02:38:32,500 --> 02:38:33,700
and at least then people will

5930
02:38:33,700 --> 02:38:34,380
know...

5931
02:38:34,380 --> 02:38:35,160
and it's clear...

5932
02:38:35,160 --> 02:38:36,420
and they're informed...

5933
02:38:36,420 --> 02:38:37,660
So why would you have to have...

5934
02:38:37,660 --> 02:38:38,420
ask that question...

5935
02:38:38,420 --> 02:38:39,420
I say it respectfully...

5936
02:38:39,420 --> 02:38:40,880
that you seem to have...

5937
02:38:40,880 --> 02:38:42,160
the sort of Chinese walls...

5938
02:38:42,160 --> 02:38:43,320
within your own heads...

5939
02:38:43,320 --> 02:38:43,880
that...

5940
02:38:43,880 --> 02:38:44,080
yeah...

5941
02:38:44,080 --> 02:38:45,100
I can be working for...

5942
02:38:45,100 --> 02:38:46,040
and paid by a property

5943
02:38:46,040 --> 02:38:47,240
developer here...

5944
02:38:47,240 --> 02:38:49,380
yet I can hold different views...

5945
02:38:49,380 --> 02:38:49,580
and that...

5946
02:38:49,580 --> 02:38:51,190
I've never heard of Chinese

5947
02:38:51,190 --> 02:38:52,220
walls...

5948
02:38:52,220 --> 02:38:52,500
I mean...

5949
02:38:52,500 --> 02:38:53,900
there is the great wall of

5950
02:38:53,900 --> 02:38:54,880
China...

5951
02:38:54,880 --> 02:38:55,880
that's what he means...

5952
02:38:55,880 --> 02:38:57,520
may very well be the case...

5953
02:38:57,520 --> 02:38:59,500
but I think as a public...

5954
02:38:59,500 --> 02:38:59,780
you know...

5955
02:38:59,780 --> 02:39:01,900
we're entitled to know that...

5956
02:39:01,900 --> 02:39:02,860
and I certainly think...

5957
02:39:02,860 --> 02:39:03,560
in the case of where...

5958
02:39:03,560 --> 02:39:05,060
you're an influencer...

5959
02:39:05,060 --> 02:39:06,020
and you know...

5960
02:39:06,020 --> 02:39:06,940
we put a lot of pressure...

5961
02:39:06,940 --> 02:39:08,220
on social media influencers...

5962
02:39:08,220 --> 02:39:09,700
that they should be declaring...

5963
02:39:09,700 --> 02:39:10,840
if they're being paid...

5964
02:39:10,840 --> 02:39:12,340
by a particular company...

5965
02:39:12,340 --> 02:39:13,380
they have to say...

5966
02:39:13,380 --> 02:39:14,320
I am being paid...

5967
02:39:14,320 --> 02:39:16,060
to promote this product...

5968
02:39:16,060 --> 02:39:17,220
do you not feel...

5969
02:39:17,220 --> 02:39:19,100
that a similar requirement...

5970
02:39:19,100 --> 02:39:20,240
should be put in place...

5971
02:39:20,240 --> 02:39:21,380
so it's not about your view...

5972
02:39:21,380 --> 02:39:22,220
Chinese walls...

5973
02:39:22,220 --> 02:39:23,060
is a banking...

5974
02:39:23,060 --> 02:39:23,660
slash...

5975
02:39:23,660 --> 02:39:24,620
compliance...

5976
02:39:24,620 --> 02:39:25,500
procedure...

5977
02:39:25,500 --> 02:39:26,960
says Mr Derp...

5978
02:39:26,960 --> 02:39:27,280
do you know...

5979
02:39:27,280 --> 02:39:28,340
in all my years...

5980
02:39:28,340 --> 02:39:29,440
in the boardrooms...

5981
02:39:29,440 --> 02:39:30,440
the big powwows...

5982
02:39:30,440 --> 02:39:31,160
the meetups...

5983
02:39:31,160 --> 02:39:32,060
the CEOs...

5984
02:39:32,060 --> 02:39:33,500
the tech firms...

5985
02:39:33,500 --> 02:39:34,820
I've never once...

5986
02:39:34,820 --> 02:39:36,500
heard that mentioned...

5987
02:39:36,500 --> 02:39:37,500
isn't that amazing...

5988
02:39:38,500 --> 02:39:39,260
views...

5989
02:39:39,260 --> 02:39:40,340
but if you're coming on...

5990
02:39:40,340 --> 02:39:41,420
and saying...

5991
02:39:41,420 --> 02:39:42,920
today I'm going to talk about...

5992
02:39:42,920 --> 02:39:43,160
you know...

5993
02:39:43,160 --> 02:39:44,160
property in Ireland...

5994
02:39:44,160 --> 02:39:44,840
by the way...

5995
02:39:44,840 --> 02:39:46,280
I don't think it's a conflict...

5996
02:39:46,280 --> 02:39:47,720
but I have worked for...

5997
02:39:47,720 --> 02:39:48,700
the Construction Industry

5998
02:39:48,700 --> 02:39:49,540
Federation...

5999
02:39:49,540 --> 02:39:50,200
or Glen Bay...

6000
02:39:50,200 --> 02:39:51,500
or whoever...

6001
02:39:51,500 --> 02:39:52,500
and I'm just wondering...

6002
02:39:52,500 --> 02:39:54,380
do you see it that way?

6003
02:39:55,120 --> 02:39:57,060
I don't see it that way...

6004
02:39:57,060 --> 02:39:57,960
go on Ivan...

6005
02:39:57,960 --> 02:39:59,640
all my clients...

6006
02:39:59,640 --> 02:40:00,640
all my clients...

6007
02:40:00,640 --> 02:40:02,120
across every sphere...

6008
02:40:02,720 --> 02:40:04,120
and even when I was a TD...

6009
02:40:04,920 --> 02:40:06,020
for 22 years...

6010
02:40:06,020 --> 02:40:07,580
I operated on the basis...

6011
02:40:07,580 --> 02:40:09,080
of certain things I did...

6012
02:40:09,080 --> 02:40:10,360
and certain discussions I had...

6013
02:40:10,360 --> 02:40:11,120
were confidential...

6014
02:40:11,840 --> 02:40:12,120
and...

6015
02:40:12,780 --> 02:40:14,120
when I set up this business...

6016
02:40:15,000 --> 02:40:16,120
in late 2021...

6017
02:40:17,120 --> 02:40:19,920
it was actually quite funny...

6018
02:40:19,920 --> 02:40:20,860
I went to Tineo...

6019
02:40:20,860 --> 02:40:22,200
because I actually thought...

6020
02:40:22,200 --> 02:40:23,320
all the 50...

6021
02:40:23,320 --> 02:40:24,480
He's not training them...

6022
02:40:24,480 --> 02:40:25,800
on the content of the message...

6023
02:40:25,800 --> 02:40:26,880
says Mr Keogh...

6024
02:40:26,880 --> 02:40:28,030
just how you deliver the

6025
02:40:28,030 --> 02:40:29,020
message...

6026
02:40:29,020 --> 02:40:30,620
do graphic designers...

6027
02:40:30,620 --> 02:40:31,420
get pulled up...

6028
02:40:31,420 --> 02:40:31,920
over their politics...

6029
02:40:32,720 --> 02:40:33,560
if they design...

6030
02:40:33,560 --> 02:40:34,280
an election...

6031
02:40:34,280 --> 02:40:35,780
poster or leaflet...

6032
02:40:35,780 --> 02:40:36,690
couldn't have put it better

6033
02:40:36,690 --> 02:40:37,300
myself...

6034
02:40:37,300 --> 02:40:37,860
very...

6035
02:40:37,860 --> 02:40:38,820
very concise...

6036
02:40:38,820 --> 02:40:39,920
take...

6037
02:40:39,920 --> 02:40:40,720
which...

6038
02:40:40,720 --> 02:40:40,920
you know...

6039
02:40:40,920 --> 02:40:42,920
really just highlights...

6040
02:40:42,920 --> 02:40:44,920
the ridiculous nature...

6041
02:40:45,620 --> 02:40:46,060
of this...

6042
02:40:46,060 --> 02:40:47,140
this grilling session...

6043
02:40:47,140 --> 02:40:47,620
that we're...

6044
02:40:47,620 --> 02:40:48,600
we're witnessing right here...

6045
02:40:48,600 --> 02:40:49,540
PR companies...

6046
02:40:49,540 --> 02:40:50,860
who are doing this full time...

6047
02:40:50,860 --> 02:40:52,080
that I would ask their coach...

6048
02:40:52,080 --> 02:40:52,660
just come in...

6049
02:40:52,660 --> 02:40:53,840
to do the coaching role...

6050
02:40:53,840 --> 02:40:54,600
and you know...

6051
02:40:54,600 --> 02:40:55,620
someone in Tineo said...

6052
02:40:55,620 --> 02:40:56,620
Ivan can I do you a favour...

6053
02:40:56,620 --> 02:40:57,180
and say...

6054
02:40:57,180 --> 02:40:58,340
no PR company...

6055
02:40:58,340 --> 02:40:59,000
is going to let you...

6056
02:40:59,000 --> 02:41:00,140
near their CEOs...

6057
02:41:00,140 --> 02:41:00,820
because you'll get...

6058
02:41:00,820 --> 02:41:01,920
so friendly with them...

6059
02:41:01,920 --> 02:41:02,220
you'll...

6060
02:41:02,220 --> 02:41:03,300
you'll cannibalise...

6061
02:41:03,300 --> 02:41:04,100
our clients...

6062
02:41:04,100 --> 02:41:05,100
and so therefore...

6063
02:41:05,100 --> 02:41:06,160
I reconstructed it...

6064
02:41:06,160 --> 02:41:07,760
so client confidentiality...

6065
02:41:07,760 --> 02:41:08,960
I can assure you...

6066
02:41:08,960 --> 02:41:09,760
and I'm saying this...

6067
02:41:09,760 --> 02:41:11,320
about all clients...

6068
02:41:11,320 --> 02:41:12,440
all clients...

6069
02:41:12,440 --> 02:41:13,460
in terms of media...

6070
02:41:13,460 --> 02:41:16,000
they would always say to me...

6071
02:41:16,000 --> 02:41:17,320
this is confidential...

6072
02:41:17,320 --> 02:41:17,940
they would say to me...

6073
02:41:17,940 --> 02:41:18,880
this is confidential...

6074
02:41:18,880 --> 02:41:20,260
and I respect that...

6075
02:41:20,260 --> 02:41:21,260
and they're entitled...

6076
02:41:21,260 --> 02:41:22,000
to say that...

6077
02:41:22,000 --> 02:41:23,040
in the same way...

6078
02:41:23,040 --> 02:41:23,880
that I would...

6079
02:41:23,880 --> 02:41:24,940
deal with my accountant...

6080
02:41:24,940 --> 02:41:26,040
and my solicitor...

6081
02:41:26,040 --> 02:41:26,540
and I'd say...

6082
02:41:26,540 --> 02:41:27,560
this is confidential...

6083
02:41:27,560 --> 02:41:28,000
and so...

6084
02:41:28,000 --> 02:41:30,160
so outside of this bubble...

6085
02:41:30,160 --> 02:41:31,420
confidentiality...

6086
02:41:31,420 --> 02:41:33,060
is the basis of trust...

6087
02:41:33,060 --> 02:41:34,560
and you will not get rid...

6088
02:41:34,560 --> 02:41:35,340
if I start...

6089
02:41:35,340 --> 02:41:36,060
but given that I'm...

6090
02:41:36,060 --> 02:41:37,540
kind of seen as a motor mouth...

6091
02:41:37,540 --> 02:41:38,660
if I was to talk about...

6092
02:41:38,660 --> 02:41:39,720
your business...

6093
02:41:39,720 --> 02:41:40,560
or someone else's business...

6094
02:41:40,560 --> 02:41:41,140
I would...

6095
02:41:41,140 --> 02:41:41,960
it's not to mention...

6096
02:41:41,960 --> 02:41:42,860
an individual business...

6097
02:41:42,860 --> 02:41:43,140
but I mean...

6098
02:41:43,140 --> 02:41:44,300
I would certainly expect...

6099
02:41:44,300 --> 02:41:45,140
if for instance...

6100
02:41:45,140 --> 02:41:45,740
you were talking about...

6101
02:41:45,740 --> 02:41:47,020
the property industry...

6102
02:41:47,020 --> 02:41:48,240
and it's not necessarily...

6103
02:41:48,240 --> 02:41:48,740
that it was...

6104
02:41:48,740 --> 02:41:48,840
you know...

6105
02:41:48,840 --> 02:41:49,680
a particular company...

6106
02:41:49,680 --> 02:41:50,560
or whatever...

6107
02:41:50,560 --> 02:41:51,660
but to be able to say...

6108
02:41:51,660 --> 02:41:51,940
you know...

6109
02:41:51,940 --> 02:41:53,340
last year I was paid...

6110
02:41:53,340 --> 02:41:55,120
I think this lad...

6111
02:41:55,120 --> 02:41:55,800
what's his name...

6112
02:41:55,800 --> 02:41:56,840
Malcolm Byrne...

6113
02:41:56,840 --> 02:41:57,680
has...

6114
02:41:57,680 --> 02:41:59,520
he's been the best...

6115
02:41:59,520 --> 02:42:00,520
of the contenders...

6116
02:42:00,520 --> 02:42:01,860
so far...

6117
02:42:01,860 --> 02:42:03,060
because it feels as though...

6118
02:42:03,060 --> 02:42:04,120
Ivan...

6119
02:42:04,120 --> 02:42:06,520
he isn't swinging out...

6120
02:42:06,520 --> 02:42:08,520
as hard on this one...

6121
02:42:08,520 --> 02:42:09,740
doesn't really feel...

6122
02:42:09,740 --> 02:42:10,520
as confident...

6123
02:42:10,520 --> 02:42:12,860
we'll see how it develops...

6124
02:42:12,860 --> 02:42:13,140
but...

6125
02:42:13,140 --> 02:42:14,240
...amount...

6126
02:42:14,240 --> 02:42:15,660
from property interests...

6127
02:42:15,660 --> 02:42:16,490
the public will make up their

6128
02:42:16,490 --> 02:42:16,940
mind...

6129
02:42:16,940 --> 02:42:18,240
but at least they know...

6130
02:42:18,240 --> 02:42:18,480
you know...

6131
02:42:18,480 --> 02:42:18,840
where they're coming from...

6132
02:42:18,840 --> 02:42:20,500
but I'm the most pro-developer...

6133
02:42:20,500 --> 02:42:21,040
spokesperson...

6134
02:42:21,040 --> 02:42:21,980
and we know...

6135
02:42:21,980 --> 02:42:23,120
we know that...

6136
02:42:23,120 --> 02:42:23,540
but this...

6137
02:42:23,540 --> 02:42:24,500
this applies across...

6138
02:42:24,500 --> 02:42:26,820
a range of interests...

6139
02:42:26,820 --> 02:42:28,080
and I think what you do...

6140
02:42:28,080 --> 02:42:28,580
in terms of...

6141
02:42:28,580 --> 02:42:29,260
it's very good...

6142
02:42:29,260 --> 02:42:29,960
and it's engaging...

6143
02:42:29,960 --> 02:42:30,840
with the public...

6144
02:42:30,840 --> 02:42:32,220
and it's not just in your case...

6145
02:42:32,220 --> 02:42:32,940
I think it's the case...

6146
02:42:32,940 --> 02:42:34,560
of everybody who appears...

6147
02:42:34,560 --> 02:42:36,000
that if you have...

6148
02:42:36,000 --> 02:42:37,560
a potential conflict...

6149
02:42:37,560 --> 02:42:38,200
it should...

6150
02:42:38,200 --> 02:42:39,400
it should be declared...

6151
02:42:39,400 --> 02:42:40,420
because you do have...

6152
02:42:40,420 --> 02:42:41,660
influence Ivan...

6153
02:42:41,660 --> 02:42:42,580
no but it's...

6154
02:42:42,580 --> 02:42:43,820
greatly exaggerated...

6155
02:42:43,820 --> 02:42:44,980
no but it...

6156
02:42:44,980 --> 02:42:46,340
love the modesty...

6157
02:42:46,340 --> 02:42:47,220
he knows...

6158
02:42:47,220 --> 02:42:48,320
he's an influence...

6159
02:42:48,320 --> 02:42:49,360
titan...

6160
02:42:49,360 --> 02:42:50,580
but it does like...

6161
02:42:50,580 --> 02:42:51,560
how many listeners...

6162
02:42:51,560 --> 02:42:52,740
did you have on Path to Power?

6163
02:42:53,180 --> 02:42:54,720
it was about 40,000...

6164
02:42:54,720 --> 02:42:56,100
between YouTube and that...

6165
02:42:56,100 --> 02:42:56,680
yeah...

6166
02:42:56,680 --> 02:42:57,500
and a lot of those...

6167
02:42:57,500 --> 02:42:59,000
would also be key...

6168
02:42:59,000 --> 02:43:00,160
a lot more than that...

6169
02:43:00,160 --> 02:43:01,000
influencers...

6170
02:43:01,000 --> 02:43:01,440
within...

6171
02:43:01,440 --> 02:43:01,960
you know...

6172
02:43:01,960 --> 02:43:03,800
he's playing down the numbers...

6173
02:43:03,800 --> 02:43:04,540
because he doesn't want...

6174
02:43:04,540 --> 02:43:05,480
to come across as someone...

6175
02:43:05,480 --> 02:43:07,000
who holds such sway...

6176
02:43:07,000 --> 02:43:08,000
but he has...

6177
02:43:08,000 --> 02:43:09,340
a lot more clout than that...

6178
02:43:09,340 --> 02:43:11,000
he knows that...

6179
02:43:11,000 --> 02:43:12,820
I mean a lot of people...

6180
02:43:12,820 --> 02:43:13,760
a lot of people disagree...

6181
02:43:13,760 --> 02:43:14,940
with my opinions on it...

6182
02:43:14,940 --> 02:43:16,340
absolutely...

6183
02:43:16,340 --> 02:43:17,340
but again you were saying...

6184
02:43:17,340 --> 02:43:17,880
about it...

6185
02:43:17,880 --> 02:43:18,080
you know...

6186
02:43:18,080 --> 02:43:19,080
being informed...

6187
02:43:19,080 --> 02:43:20,120
I might just...

6188
02:43:20,120 --> 02:43:20,840
come on to...

6189
02:43:20,840 --> 02:43:22,000
can I just make one other point...

6190
02:43:22,000 --> 02:43:23,100
about confidentiality...

6191
02:43:23,100 --> 02:43:24,740
when I started to work...

6192
02:43:24,740 --> 02:43:26,740
on Newstalk...

6193
02:43:26,740 --> 02:43:27,160
one...

6194
02:43:27,160 --> 02:43:28,380
I did a contract with them...

6195
02:43:28,380 --> 02:43:29,220
I did a contract...

6196
02:43:29,220 --> 02:43:29,720
with Virgin...

6197
02:43:29,720 --> 02:43:30,560
did...

6198
02:43:30,560 --> 02:43:31,340
first thing on...

6199
02:43:31,340 --> 02:43:32,840
this contract is confidential...

6200
02:43:32,840 --> 02:43:34,280
you cannot discuss your pay...

6201
02:43:34,280 --> 02:43:34,700
you can...

6202
02:43:34,700 --> 02:43:36,100
not just Ivan...

6203
02:43:36,100 --> 02:43:36,620
I'd say we moved...

6204
02:43:36,620 --> 02:43:37,760
I'd say we moved on...

6205
02:43:37,760 --> 02:43:38,560
yeah...

6206
02:43:38,560 --> 02:43:38,600
yeah...

6207
02:43:38,600 --> 02:43:38,600
yeah...

6208
02:43:38,600 --> 02:43:39,140
Ivan...

6209
02:43:39,140 --> 02:43:40,680
not...

6210
02:43:40,680 --> 02:43:42,980
really taking this round...

6211
02:43:42,980 --> 02:43:45,020
as well as the previous three...

6212
02:43:45,020 --> 02:43:48,200
I think...

6213
02:43:48,200 --> 02:43:49,360
Malcolm's time...

6214
02:43:49,360 --> 02:43:50,780
is coming to an end here...

6215
02:43:50,780 --> 02:43:52,100
maybe Malcolm is the last one...

6216
02:43:52,100 --> 02:43:52,920
we dealt with that...

6217
02:43:52,920 --> 02:43:54,200
in this committee on RT...

6218
02:43:54,200 --> 02:43:54,980
I want to move on...

6219
02:43:54,980 --> 02:43:55,700
because some of the other areas

6220
02:43:55,700 --> 02:43:56,040
is...

6221
02:43:56,040 --> 02:43:56,520
okay...

6222
02:43:56,520 --> 02:43:57,640
so obviously...

6223
02:43:57,640 --> 02:43:58,020
I think...

6224
02:43:58,020 --> 02:43:58,900
Ivan just went to put the

6225
02:43:58,900 --> 02:43:59,700
glasses on...

6226
02:43:59,700 --> 02:44:00,560
and he put them right...

6227
02:44:00,560 --> 02:44:01,940
on the top of his head...

6228
02:44:01,940 --> 02:44:03,140
which just shows you...

6229
02:44:03,140 --> 02:44:04,140
how much stress...

6230
02:44:04,720 --> 02:44:05,140
was...

6231
02:44:05,920 --> 02:44:06,640
going on...

6232
02:44:06,640 --> 02:44:07,860
right here at this moment...

6233
02:44:07,860 --> 02:44:08,920
and you see that again...

6234
02:44:08,920 --> 02:44:10,060
I'd say we moved...

6235
02:44:10,060 --> 02:44:11,200
I'd say we moved on...

6236
02:44:11,200 --> 02:44:12,020
and we dealt with that...

6237
02:44:12,020 --> 02:44:13,300
in this committee on RT...

6238
02:44:13,300 --> 02:44:14,140
I want to move on...

6239
02:44:14,140 --> 02:44:14,940
because some of the...

6240
02:44:14,940 --> 02:44:16,180
watch this here...

6241
02:44:16,180 --> 02:44:17,140
the other areas is...

6242
02:44:17,840 --> 02:44:19,000
went on to his head...

6243
02:44:19,000 --> 02:44:19,280
I...

6244
02:44:19,280 --> 02:44:20,420
I can't freeze frame...

6245
02:44:20,420 --> 02:44:21,220
the player is...

6246
02:44:21,220 --> 02:44:21,620
is...

6247
02:44:21,620 --> 02:44:22,280
is not good...

6248
02:44:22,280 --> 02:44:22,660
okay...

6249
02:44:22,660 --> 02:44:22,920
so...

6250
02:44:22,920 --> 02:44:23,760
so obviously...

6251
02:44:23,760 --> 02:44:24,440
and you know...

6252
02:44:24,440 --> 02:44:26,140
it was mentioned in terms of...

6253
02:44:26,680 --> 02:44:27,040
you know...

6254
02:44:27,040 --> 02:44:28,480
your predictions that you make...

6255
02:44:28,480 --> 02:44:29,020
and I think...

6256
02:44:29,020 --> 02:44:29,960
probably every politician in

6257
02:44:29,960 --> 02:44:30,480
here...

6258
02:44:30,480 --> 02:44:30,920
would have...

6259
02:44:30,920 --> 02:44:32,480
would have listened to them...

6260
02:44:32,480 --> 02:44:33,040
but...

6261
02:44:33,040 --> 02:44:33,600
you know...

6262
02:44:33,600 --> 02:44:34,980
Gary said that was for his

6263
02:44:34,980 --> 02:44:36,100
third eye...

6264
02:44:36,100 --> 02:44:37,560
at the time also...

6265
02:44:37,560 --> 02:44:37,880
you know...

6266
02:44:37,880 --> 02:44:38,720
what do they call that...

6267
02:44:38,720 --> 02:44:39,040
your...

6268
02:44:39,040 --> 02:44:40,140
your chakra...

6269
02:44:40,140 --> 02:44:42,480
or your fucking...

6270
02:44:42,480 --> 02:44:43,180
what's that...

6271
02:44:43,180 --> 02:44:45,600
pineal gland or something...

6272
02:44:45,600 --> 02:44:47,260
I don't know...

6273
02:44:47,260 --> 02:44:48,830
but it may have been a psychic

6274
02:44:48,830 --> 02:44:49,860
attack...

6275
02:44:49,860 --> 02:44:50,100
that...

6276
02:44:50,100 --> 02:44:51,560
that Ivan was launching there...

6277
02:44:51,560 --> 02:44:52,940
I'm not sure...

6278
02:44:52,940 --> 02:44:55,480
have been paid by politicians...

6279
02:44:55,480 --> 02:44:56,580
you know...

6280
02:44:56,580 --> 02:44:57,740
and even in your discussion...

6281
02:44:57,740 --> 02:44:57,960
to...

6282
02:44:57,960 --> 02:44:59,340
to do media training...

6283
02:44:59,340 --> 02:45:00,240
with them...

6284
02:45:00,240 --> 02:45:01,280
you'll be very familiar...

6285
02:45:01,280 --> 02:45:01,720
obviously...

6286
02:45:01,720 --> 02:45:02,680
in Wexford...

6287
02:45:02,680 --> 02:45:04,400
you were very associated...

6288
02:45:04,400 --> 02:45:05,240
with the launch...

6289
02:45:05,240 --> 02:45:06,460
of Rowan Murphy's...

6290
02:45:06,460 --> 02:45:07,620
political party...

6291
02:45:07,620 --> 02:45:08,920
which I understand...

6292
02:45:08,920 --> 02:45:09,240
was a paid gig...

6293
02:45:09,240 --> 02:45:10,520
I emceed an event...

6294
02:45:10,520 --> 02:45:11,880
but it was a paid gig...

6295
02:45:11,880 --> 02:45:12,340
yes...

6296
02:45:12,340 --> 02:45:13,100
it was paid...

6297
02:45:13,100 --> 02:45:14,080
but by the way...

6298
02:45:14,080 --> 02:45:14,580
can I ask...

6299
02:45:14,580 --> 02:45:15,500
have you...

6300
02:45:15,500 --> 02:45:16,400
has the Count Corral...

6301
02:45:16,400 --> 02:45:18,240
engaged you since...

6302
02:45:18,240 --> 02:45:18,560
no...

6303
02:45:18,560 --> 02:45:18,960
that...

6304
02:45:18,960 --> 02:45:19,340
that...

6305
02:45:19,340 --> 02:45:20,240
for any...

6306
02:45:20,240 --> 02:45:21,240
she was launching...

6307
02:45:21,240 --> 02:45:21,240
she was launching...

6308
02:45:21,240 --> 02:45:22,360
a Wexford alliance...

6309
02:45:22,360 --> 02:45:22,780
I just...

6310
02:45:22,780 --> 02:45:24,020
it was like Rosa Trelee...

6311
02:45:24,020 --> 02:45:25,260
they all came up with videos...

6312
02:45:25,260 --> 02:45:26,040
and I did it...

6313
02:45:26,040 --> 02:45:26,920
and I do it for...

6314
02:45:26,920 --> 02:45:28,520
and can I just say about that...

6315
02:45:28,520 --> 02:45:29,680
I'd work for anybody...

6316
02:45:29,680 --> 02:45:30,260
you know what I mean...

6317
02:45:30,260 --> 02:45:31,540
my diary's available...

6318
02:45:31,540 --> 02:45:32,040
we know...

6319
02:45:32,040 --> 02:45:32,860
we know that...

6320
02:45:32,860 --> 02:45:34,560
we know that...

6321
02:45:34,560 --> 02:45:34,760
but...

6322
02:45:34,760 --> 02:45:35,200
but...

6323
02:45:35,200 --> 02:45:35,920
do you not think...

6324
02:45:35,920 --> 02:45:36,440
that there is...

6325
02:45:36,440 --> 02:45:38,240
so for instance...

6326
02:45:38,240 --> 02:45:38,800
so for instance...

6327
02:45:38,800 --> 02:45:39,180
and it's...

6328
02:45:39,180 --> 02:45:39,720
as you know...

6329
02:45:39,720 --> 02:45:41,040
it's not my constituency now...

6330
02:45:41,040 --> 02:45:41,620
but for instance...

6331
02:45:41,620 --> 02:45:42,860
would it not make sense then...

6332
02:45:42,860 --> 02:45:43,800
I heard you were very

6333
02:45:43,800 --> 02:45:44,920
associated...

6334
02:45:44,920 --> 02:45:45,820
with the launch...

6335
02:45:45,820 --> 02:45:47,000
of Rowan Murphy's...

6336
02:45:47,000 --> 02:45:48,180
political party...

6337
02:45:48,180 --> 02:45:48,720
which...

6338
02:45:48,720 --> 02:45:49,480
I understand...

6339
02:45:49,480 --> 02:45:49,800
was a paid gig...

6340
02:45:49,800 --> 02:45:51,120
I emceed an event...

6341
02:45:51,120 --> 02:45:51,640
but...

6342
02:45:51,640 --> 02:45:52,020
so I...

6343
02:45:52,020 --> 02:45:53,180
I fucking love it...

6344
02:45:53,180 --> 02:45:55,300
when he takes the glasses off...

6345
02:45:55,300 --> 02:45:55,980
you know...

6346
02:45:55,980 --> 02:45:56,520
he's gonna...

6347
02:45:56,520 --> 02:45:58,120
he's got something coming...

6348
02:45:58,120 --> 02:46:00,820
it's beautiful stuff...

6349
02:46:00,820 --> 02:46:01,920
it was a paid gig...

6350
02:46:01,920 --> 02:46:02,380
yes...

6351
02:46:02,380 --> 02:46:02,840
it was paid...

6352
02:46:02,840 --> 02:46:04,120
by the way...

6353
02:46:04,120 --> 02:46:04,600
can I ask...

6354
02:46:04,600 --> 02:46:05,560
have you...

6355
02:46:05,560 --> 02:46:06,400
has the Count Coral...

6356
02:46:06,400 --> 02:46:08,280
engaged you since...

6357
02:46:08,280 --> 02:46:09,000
that...

6358
02:46:09,000 --> 02:46:09,740
that's for...

6359
02:46:09,740 --> 02:46:10,460
for any...

6360
02:46:10,460 --> 02:46:11,240
she was launching...

6361
02:46:11,240 --> 02:46:12,360
a Wexford Alliance...

6362
02:46:12,360 --> 02:46:12,820
I just...

6363
02:46:12,820 --> 02:46:14,020
it was like Rosa Tralee...

6364
02:46:14,020 --> 02:46:15,300
they all came up with videos...

6365
02:46:15,300 --> 02:46:16,060
and I did it...

6366
02:46:16,060 --> 02:46:16,960
and I do it for...

6367
02:46:16,960 --> 02:46:18,560
and can I just say about that...

6368
02:46:18,560 --> 02:46:19,720
I'd work for anybody...

6369
02:46:19,720 --> 02:46:20,180
you know what I mean...

6370
02:46:20,180 --> 02:46:20,720
I have no...

6371
02:46:20,720 --> 02:46:21,580
my diary's available...

6372
02:46:21,580 --> 02:46:22,160
we know...

6373
02:46:22,160 --> 02:46:23,700
yeah...

6374
02:46:23,700 --> 02:46:24,620
loving it...

6375
02:46:24,620 --> 02:46:26,560
Yeatsy baby...

6376
02:46:26,560 --> 02:46:27,480
picks up the glass...

6377
02:46:27,480 --> 02:46:28,980
goes for a little swig...

6378
02:46:28,980 --> 02:46:30,180
gives him time to think...

6379
02:46:30,180 --> 02:46:31,340
about the next attack...

6380
02:46:31,340 --> 02:46:32,820
the next wave of attack...

6381
02:46:32,820 --> 02:46:34,100
we know that...

6382
02:46:34,100 --> 02:46:35,380
look at that...

6383
02:46:35,380 --> 02:46:36,880
that's power...

6384
02:46:36,880 --> 02:46:38,680
that's Path to Power...

6385
02:46:38,680 --> 02:46:40,260
with Yeats and Cooper...

6386
02:46:40,260 --> 02:46:41,920
and it's...

6387
02:46:41,920 --> 02:46:42,320
it's...

6388
02:46:42,320 --> 02:46:43,040
as I said...

6389
02:46:43,040 --> 02:46:44,920
the new podcast could be...

6390
02:46:44,920 --> 02:46:46,520
just Yeats alone...

6391
02:46:46,520 --> 02:46:48,100
truth to power...

6392
02:46:48,100 --> 02:46:50,540
and that's the image...

6393
02:46:50,540 --> 02:46:52,100
fucking crushing it...

6394
02:46:52,100 --> 02:46:53,100
in the Oireachtas...

6395
02:46:53,100 --> 02:46:55,200
I'm freelance...

6396
02:46:55,200 --> 02:46:56,060
we know that...

6397
02:46:56,060 --> 02:46:56,300
but...

6398
02:46:56,300 --> 02:46:57,400
but do you not think...

6399
02:46:57,400 --> 02:46:57,920
that there is...

6400
02:46:57,920 --> 02:46:58,640
but not free...

6401
02:46:58,640 --> 02:46:59,480
but carry on...

6402
02:46:59,480 --> 02:47:01,040
and a follow-up...

6403
02:47:01,040 --> 02:47:02,020
I'm freelance...

6404
02:47:02,020 --> 02:47:03,540
but I'm not free...

6405
02:47:03,540 --> 02:47:04,500
I love it...

6406
02:47:04,500 --> 02:47:05,900
it's just the PR work...

6407
02:47:05,900 --> 02:47:07,220
doesn't stop...

6408
02:47:07,220 --> 02:47:07,780
even amidst...

6409
02:47:07,780 --> 02:47:09,780
the kangaroo court...

6410
02:47:09,780 --> 02:47:09,780
for instance...

6411
02:47:09,780 --> 02:47:10,400
for instance...

6412
02:47:10,400 --> 02:47:10,760
and it's...

6413
02:47:10,760 --> 02:47:11,280
as you know...

6414
02:47:11,280 --> 02:47:12,640
it's not my constituency now...

6415
02:47:12,640 --> 02:47:13,200
but for instance...

6416
02:47:13,200 --> 02:47:14,540
would it not make sense then...

6417
02:47:14,540 --> 02:47:15,720
when you were doing...

6418
02:47:15,720 --> 02:47:15,900
you know...

6419
02:47:15,900 --> 02:47:16,600
the Wexford piece...

6420
02:47:16,600 --> 02:47:17,660
to say...

6421
02:47:17,660 --> 02:47:18,560
you know...

6422
02:47:18,560 --> 02:47:20,560
I got paid by Verona Murphy...

6423
02:47:20,560 --> 02:47:21,660
to do X...

6424
02:47:21,660 --> 02:47:22,160
and I suppose...

6425
02:47:22,160 --> 02:47:23,620
it's the similar case in...

6426
02:47:23,620 --> 02:47:25,000
I got paid by Fianna Fáil...

6427
02:47:25,000 --> 02:47:25,940
to coach...

6428
02:47:25,940 --> 02:47:26,800
Jim Gavin...

6429
02:47:26,800 --> 02:47:27,760
the public would still...

6430
02:47:27,760 --> 02:47:28,360
make up their mind...

6431
02:47:28,360 --> 02:47:29,300
but at least we would know...

6432
02:47:29,300 --> 02:47:29,900
just take the new...

6433
02:47:29,900 --> 02:47:31,600
with Clowets for constituency...

6434
02:47:31,600 --> 02:47:33,280
I put my entire reputation...

6435
02:47:33,280 --> 02:47:34,120
that you would get one...

6436
02:47:34,120 --> 02:47:35,020
you would get one...

6437
02:47:35,020 --> 02:47:36,180
and Fintone would get a C...

6438
02:47:36,180 --> 02:47:37,180
and actually...

6439
02:47:37,180 --> 02:47:38,800
I get more flack...

6440
02:47:38,800 --> 02:47:40,740
we had about 90% success rate...

6441
02:47:40,740 --> 02:47:41,500
well I can't...

6442
02:47:41,500 --> 02:47:42,900
actually I live or die...

6443
02:47:42,900 --> 02:47:44,500
by my credibility...

6444
02:47:44,500 --> 02:47:45,740
and what relationship...

6445
02:47:45,740 --> 02:47:46,380
I have with anyone...

6446
02:47:46,380 --> 02:47:46,800
Ivan...

6447
02:47:46,800 --> 02:47:47,280
I don't know...

6448
02:47:47,280 --> 02:47:47,920
because I don't think...

6449
02:47:47,920 --> 02:47:48,500
there's a conflict...

6450
02:47:48,500 --> 02:47:49,400
because I don't know...

6451
02:47:49,400 --> 02:47:50,060
from my colleagues...

6452
02:47:50,060 --> 02:47:50,680
but I suspect...

6453
02:47:50,680 --> 02:47:52,040
none of us paid you...

6454
02:47:52,040 --> 02:47:53,080
at any stage...

6455
02:47:53,080 --> 02:47:54,040
but if you have...

6456
02:47:54,040 --> 02:47:55,560
some have said...

6457
02:47:55,560 --> 02:47:56,840
some have said...

6458
02:47:56,840 --> 02:47:57,680
that Yeats got...

6459
02:47:57,680 --> 02:47:58,860
Foxhound rank...

6460
02:47:58,860 --> 02:47:59,900
in MGS Delta...

6461
02:47:59,900 --> 02:48:00,820
in record time...

6462
02:48:00,820 --> 02:48:01,460
I've yet to see it...

6463
02:48:01,460 --> 02:48:03,020
but I do believe it...

6464
02:48:03,020 --> 02:48:04,640
probably on European Extreme...

6465
02:48:04,640 --> 02:48:05,040
as well...

6466
02:48:05,040 --> 02:48:06,220
before I even got to do it...

6467
02:48:06,220 --> 02:48:07,740
if you have individuals...

6468
02:48:07,740 --> 02:48:09,520
that did pay you...

6469
02:48:09,520 --> 02:48:09,880
so for instance...

6470
02:48:09,880 --> 02:48:11,000
it wouldn't affect me...

6471
02:48:11,000 --> 02:48:11,800
or not me...

6472
02:48:11,800 --> 02:48:12,880
Francis...

6473
02:48:12,880 --> 02:48:14,420
in one iota...

6474
02:48:14,420 --> 02:48:15,340
if I thought someone...

6475
02:48:15,340 --> 02:48:16,120
was a no-hoper...

6476
02:48:16,120 --> 02:48:17,500
I would say so...

6477
02:48:17,500 --> 02:48:18,020
you would...

6478
02:48:18,020 --> 02:48:19,260
do you not believe...

6479
02:48:19,260 --> 02:48:19,540
that the...

6480
02:48:19,540 --> 02:48:20,420
wears his heart...

6481
02:48:20,420 --> 02:48:21,100
on his sleeve...

6482
02:48:21,100 --> 02:48:22,140
listening public...

6483
02:48:22,140 --> 02:48:23,060
are entitled...

6484
02:48:23,060 --> 02:48:23,960
to know that...

6485
02:48:23,960 --> 02:48:24,800
I'm not doubting...

6486
02:48:24,800 --> 02:48:25,180
you're saying...

6487
02:48:25,180 --> 02:48:26,880
it won't impact on you...

6488
02:48:26,880 --> 02:48:27,640
but you have the...

6489
02:48:27,640 --> 02:48:27,900
you know...

6490
02:48:27,900 --> 02:48:28,780
your Chinese walls...

6491
02:48:28,780 --> 02:48:30,080
in your own head on it...

6492
02:48:30,080 --> 02:48:31,740
again with the Chinese walls...

6493
02:48:31,740 --> 02:48:32,460
they're entitled to know...

6494
02:48:32,460 --> 02:48:32,680
yeah...

6495
02:48:32,680 --> 02:48:34,760
I still hear Ivan Yates' view...

6496
02:48:34,760 --> 02:48:35,680
but he got paid...

6497
02:48:35,680 --> 02:48:36,840
by this politician...

6498
02:48:36,840 --> 02:48:38,080
and there could be...

6499
02:48:38,080 --> 02:48:38,860
side by side...

6500
02:48:38,860 --> 02:48:39,680
who's this coming in...

6501
02:48:39,680 --> 02:48:40,460
I would predict...

6502
02:48:40,460 --> 02:48:41,360
Fianna Fáil get a seat here...

6503
02:48:41,360 --> 02:48:42,560
and they won't get a seat there...

6504
02:48:42,560 --> 02:48:43,980
I put it like this...

6505
02:48:43,980 --> 02:48:45,880
if I was to be...

6506
02:48:45,880 --> 02:48:46,840
and one of the things...

6507
02:48:46,840 --> 02:48:48,560
that's really amazing is...

6508
02:48:48,560 --> 02:48:49,520
over the last 10 years...

6509
02:48:49,520 --> 02:48:50,700
no one has ever accused me...

6510
02:48:50,700 --> 02:48:51,860
of being a lackey...

6511
02:48:51,860 --> 02:48:52,580
for anybody...

6512
02:48:52,580 --> 02:48:53,380
and...

6513
02:48:53,380 --> 02:48:54,200
and so therefore...

6514
02:48:54,200 --> 02:48:54,460
and Ivan...

6515
02:48:54,460 --> 02:48:55,800
you're avoiding the question...

6516
02:48:55,800 --> 02:48:57,180
no I'm saying it's gaslighting...

6517
02:48:57,180 --> 02:48:58,180
you're avoiding...

6518
02:48:58,180 --> 02:48:59,420
pure gaslighting...

6519
02:48:59,420 --> 02:49:00,000
he's being...

6520
02:49:00,000 --> 02:49:00,980
he's being gaslit...

6521
02:49:00,980 --> 02:49:01,680
so I want to come back...

6522
02:49:01,680 --> 02:49:02,280
because I'm...

6523
02:49:02,280 --> 02:49:03,940
I'm not accusing you of being...

6524
02:49:03,940 --> 02:49:04,500
you know...

6525
02:49:04,500 --> 02:49:04,980
a lackey...

6526
02:49:04,980 --> 02:49:06,660
but what I am saying is...

6527
02:49:06,660 --> 02:49:08,180
that as somebody who enjoyed...

6528
02:49:08,180 --> 02:49:09,040
listening to podcasts...

6529
02:49:09,040 --> 02:49:09,890
I think that I'm entitled to

6530
02:49:09,890 --> 02:49:10,440
know...

6531
02:49:10,440 --> 02:49:11,300
and I think the public would

6532
02:49:11,300 --> 02:49:12,080
like to know...

6533
02:49:12,080 --> 02:49:12,760
as you said...

6534
02:49:12,760 --> 02:49:13,500
use your own word...

6535
02:49:13,500 --> 02:49:14,760
the public make up their mind...

6536
02:49:14,760 --> 02:49:15,520
to know...

6537
02:49:15,520 --> 02:49:17,280
I have been paid by...

6538
02:49:17,280 --> 02:49:18,360
X, Y, Z politicians...

6539
02:49:18,360 --> 02:49:19,630
when it comes to political

6540
02:49:19,630 --> 02:49:20,680
podcasts...

6541
02:49:20,680 --> 02:49:22,060
so the question is...

6542
02:49:22,060 --> 02:49:22,400
do...

6543
02:49:22,400 --> 02:49:23,560
do I feel...

6544
02:49:23,560 --> 02:49:24,680
that every invoice...

6545
02:49:24,680 --> 02:49:25,500
I've ever issued...

6546
02:49:25,500 --> 02:49:26,400
that might impact...

6547
02:49:26,400 --> 02:49:27,400
on what I might say...

6548
02:49:27,400 --> 02:49:28,960
should be revealed...

6549
02:49:28,960 --> 02:49:29,880
that's not the...

6550
02:49:29,880 --> 02:49:30,660
that's not the question I asked...

6551
02:49:30,660 --> 02:49:31,440
what is the question...

6552
02:49:31,440 --> 02:49:31,960
what is the question...

6553
02:49:31,960 --> 02:49:33,180
so my guess is...

6554
02:49:33,180 --> 02:49:34,480
do you think that the...

6555
02:49:34,480 --> 02:49:36,080
I love it...

6556
02:49:36,080 --> 02:49:36,680
I love it...

6557
02:49:36,680 --> 02:49:38,240
he's turned this one around...

6558
02:49:38,240 --> 02:49:40,060
I thought your man had him...

6559
02:49:40,060 --> 02:49:41,210
but Ivan's turned it on his

6560
02:49:41,210 --> 02:49:41,960
head...

6561
02:49:41,960 --> 02:49:43,140
the little jokes...

6562
02:49:43,140 --> 02:49:44,340
playing to the gallery...

6563
02:49:44,340 --> 02:49:45,020
people...

6564
02:49:45,020 --> 02:49:46,220
you had them all in stitches...

6565
02:49:46,220 --> 02:49:47,560
they were rolling...

6566
02:49:47,560 --> 02:49:47,960
and...

6567
02:49:47,960 --> 02:49:48,520
and...

6568
02:49:48,520 --> 02:49:48,940
he's...

6569
02:49:48,940 --> 02:49:50,400
this lad has lost...

6570
02:49:50,400 --> 02:49:51,520
the momentum...

6571
02:49:51,520 --> 02:49:52,720
he had some good momentum...

6572
02:49:52,720 --> 02:49:53,420
but he's lost it...

6573
02:49:53,420 --> 02:49:54,040
and he's mentioned...

6574
02:49:54,040 --> 02:49:56,280
Chinese walls twice...

6575
02:49:56,280 --> 02:49:57,640
which is a mistake...

6576
02:49:57,640 --> 02:49:59,800
public are entitled to know...

6577
02:49:59,800 --> 02:50:00,680
that if you're going...

6578
02:50:00,680 --> 02:50:01,040
and by the way...

6579
02:50:01,040 --> 02:50:01,360
it doesn't just...

6580
02:50:01,360 --> 02:50:02,180
because he's...

6581
02:50:02,180 --> 02:50:03,500
he's projecting...

6582
02:50:03,500 --> 02:50:03,920
what he...

6583
02:50:03,920 --> 02:50:04,720
he feels...

6584
02:50:04,720 --> 02:50:05,680
Ivan has...

6585
02:50:05,680 --> 02:50:07,100
inside his head...

6586
02:50:07,100 --> 02:50:08,480
regardless of whether or not...

6587
02:50:08,480 --> 02:50:09,480
it's Chinese walls...

6588
02:50:09,480 --> 02:50:10,480
or whatever that means...

6589
02:50:11,360 --> 02:50:12,360
he's simply...

6590
02:50:12,360 --> 02:50:14,480
putting a label on Yeats...

6591
02:50:14,480 --> 02:50:16,480
but Yeats is unlabelable...

6592
02:50:16,480 --> 02:50:19,420
goes on RT...

6593
02:50:19,420 --> 02:50:19,920
a panellist...

6594
02:50:19,920 --> 02:50:20,920
a columnist...

6595
02:50:20,920 --> 02:50:21,620
and they have been...

6596
02:50:21,620 --> 02:50:23,060
Yeats is like the jar...

6597
02:50:23,060 --> 02:50:23,880
of stuff you buy...

6598
02:50:23,880 --> 02:50:25,200
in an artisanal...

6599
02:50:25,200 --> 02:50:25,820
food shop...

6600
02:50:25,820 --> 02:50:27,280
that doesn't even need a label...

6601
02:50:27,280 --> 02:50:28,460
it's just in the jar...

6602
02:50:28,460 --> 02:50:29,000
you see it...

6603
02:50:29,000 --> 02:50:30,120
you know what it is...

6604
02:50:30,120 --> 02:50:31,500
you can open the lid...

6605
02:50:31,500 --> 02:50:32,300
have a smell...

6606
02:50:32,300 --> 02:50:32,680
go yeah...

6607
02:50:32,680 --> 02:50:33,600
that's good stuff...

6608
02:50:33,600 --> 02:50:34,280
and then...

6609
02:50:34,280 --> 02:50:35,400
you buy...

6610
02:50:35,400 --> 02:50:36,820
politician...

6611
02:50:36,820 --> 02:50:38,140
to do a particular...

6612
02:50:38,140 --> 02:50:38,940
piece of work...

6613
02:50:38,940 --> 02:50:40,140
that they should declare that...

6614
02:50:40,140 --> 02:50:40,580
but Mr...

6615
02:50:40,580 --> 02:50:42,240
I'm paid by the hour...

6616
02:50:42,240 --> 02:50:43,500
like once the hour is over...

6617
02:50:43,500 --> 02:50:44,260
you don't have me...

6618
02:50:44,260 --> 02:50:44,880
that's it...

6619
02:50:44,880 --> 02:50:46,320
but if it's a regular...

6620
02:50:46,320 --> 02:50:47,220
or a significant...

6621
02:50:47,220 --> 02:50:49,320
there are no retainers...

6622
02:50:49,320 --> 02:50:50,460
I have absolutely...

6623
02:50:50,460 --> 02:50:51,020
no retainers...

6624
02:50:51,020 --> 02:50:51,960
that wasn't the question...

6625
02:50:51,960 --> 02:50:53,920
ask the question again...

6626
02:50:53,920 --> 02:50:54,580
we're running out of time...

6627
02:50:54,580 --> 02:50:55,720
great stuff...

6628
02:50:55,720 --> 02:50:56,820
fucking great stuff...

6629
02:50:56,820 --> 02:50:58,820
he's only highlighting...

6630
02:50:58,820 --> 02:50:59,820
their lack...

6631
02:50:59,820 --> 02:51:01,160
their lack of ability...

6632
02:51:01,160 --> 02:51:01,820
to be able to...

6633
02:51:01,820 --> 02:51:03,820
level a pointed...

6634
02:51:03,820 --> 02:51:05,820
accusation...

6635
02:51:05,820 --> 02:51:06,820
or even formulate...

6636
02:51:07,620 --> 02:51:08,100
you know...

6637
02:51:08,100 --> 02:51:09,820
an intelligible question...

6638
02:51:10,360 --> 02:51:11,300
it's turned into...

6639
02:51:11,300 --> 02:51:12,820
word soup...

6640
02:51:12,820 --> 02:51:13,840
you know...

6641
02:51:13,840 --> 02:51:14,460
I just hope...

6642
02:51:14,460 --> 02:51:15,380
we can only get back...

6643
02:51:15,380 --> 02:51:16,980
to talking about other podcasts...

6644
02:51:16,980 --> 02:51:17,910
or mentioning maybe Hobbes

6645
02:51:17,910 --> 02:51:18,500
again...

6646
02:51:18,500 --> 02:51:19,520
that would be fantastic...

6647
02:51:19,520 --> 02:51:21,560
if Hobbes gets a second mention...

6648
02:51:21,560 --> 02:51:22,800
I will be flabbergasted...

6649
02:51:22,800 --> 02:51:24,300
so when you have...

6650
02:51:24,300 --> 02:51:25,420
like a significant...

6651
02:51:25,420 --> 02:51:26,060
so for instance...

6652
02:51:26,060 --> 02:51:27,440
I'll use the example...

6653
02:51:27,440 --> 02:51:28,360
do you think the voters...

6654
02:51:28,360 --> 02:51:29,000
in Wexford...

6655
02:51:29,000 --> 02:51:30,540
were entitled to know...

6656
02:51:30,540 --> 02:51:32,360
that you were paid...

6657
02:51:32,360 --> 02:51:34,100
a significant sum of money...

6658
02:51:34,100 --> 02:51:34,300
to MC...

6659
02:51:34,300 --> 02:51:34,600
no no...

6660
02:51:34,600 --> 02:51:35,820
it wasn't a significant sum...

6661
02:51:35,820 --> 02:51:37,680
from Verona Murphy...

6662
02:51:37,680 --> 02:51:38,080
you got to get...

6663
02:51:38,080 --> 02:51:38,460
yeah no...

6664
02:51:38,460 --> 02:51:39,180
so that...

6665
02:51:39,180 --> 02:51:40,260
that is an event...

6666
02:51:40,260 --> 02:51:40,680
right...

6667
02:51:40,680 --> 02:51:41,680
there's no training...

6668
02:51:41,680 --> 02:51:42,840
involved in that...

6669
02:51:42,840 --> 02:51:44,340
and to be honest with you...

6670
02:51:44,340 --> 02:51:45,480
I think most people...

6671
02:51:45,480 --> 02:51:46,520
in Wexford would know...

6672
02:51:46,520 --> 02:51:47,400
I wouldn't do something...

6673
02:51:47,400 --> 02:51:48,900
like that for nothing...

6674
02:51:48,900 --> 02:51:50,300
I think people know that...

6675
02:51:50,300 --> 02:51:51,340
but then if you do...

6676
02:51:51,340 --> 02:51:52,860
why don't you just declare it...

6677
02:51:52,860 --> 02:51:53,180
okay...

6678
02:51:53,180 --> 02:51:53,560
well sorry...

6679
02:51:53,560 --> 02:51:54,430
I declare it to the revenue

6680
02:51:54,430 --> 02:51:55,360
commissioners...

6681
02:51:55,360 --> 02:51:56,020
exactly...

6682
02:51:56,020 --> 02:51:57,360
but not to the listening public...

6683
02:51:57,360 --> 02:51:58,700
I think to the public...

6684
02:51:58,700 --> 02:52:00,940
terrible end to that one...

6685
02:52:00,940 --> 02:52:02,380
started strongly...

6686
02:52:02,380 --> 02:52:04,080
but lost it in the end...

6687
02:52:04,080 --> 02:52:05,060
and I love that...

6688
02:52:05,060 --> 02:52:06,220
from Ivan Yates...

6689
02:52:06,220 --> 02:52:07,780
yeah I do declare it...

6690
02:52:07,780 --> 02:52:08,900
to the fucking...

6691
02:52:08,900 --> 02:52:10,900
revenue commission...

6692
02:52:10,900 --> 02:52:12,560
and then he's left with what...

6693
02:52:12,560 --> 02:52:13,780
Malcolm's left with nothing...

6694
02:52:13,780 --> 02:52:14,240
but to say...

6695
02:52:14,240 --> 02:52:15,080
but why...

6696
02:52:15,080 --> 02:52:15,700
would you not...

6697
02:52:15,700 --> 02:52:17,520
would you not tell the public...

6698
02:52:17,520 --> 02:52:19,290
the public know what they're

6699
02:52:19,290 --> 02:52:19,840
getting...

6700
02:52:19,840 --> 02:52:20,400
yeah...

6701
02:52:20,400 --> 02:52:21,980
Deputy Barn...

6702
02:52:21,980 --> 02:52:26,500
in your opening statement...

6703
02:52:26,500 --> 02:52:26,940
Ivan...

6704
02:52:26,940 --> 02:52:28,380
you described the thought...

6705
02:52:28,380 --> 02:52:29,680
of having to declare...

6706
02:52:29,680 --> 02:52:30,940
a clear conflict...

6707
02:52:30,940 --> 02:52:31,740
of interest...

6708
02:52:31,740 --> 02:52:32,940
as being...

6709
02:52:32,940 --> 02:52:34,020
a guaranteed...

6710
02:52:34,020 --> 02:52:35,940
mood killer...

6711
02:52:35,940 --> 02:52:37,140
so...

6712
02:52:37,140 --> 02:52:37,840
can I...

6713
02:52:37,840 --> 02:52:38,980
can I put it to you...

6714
02:52:38,980 --> 02:52:39,000
Is there...

6715
02:52:39,000 --> 02:52:40,340
is there anything to be said...

6716
02:52:40,340 --> 02:52:41,300
for air dropping...

6717
02:52:41,300 --> 02:52:42,300
Rory Stewart...

6718
02:52:42,300 --> 02:52:43,640
into all this...

6719
02:52:43,640 --> 02:52:44,520
his input...

6720
02:52:44,520 --> 02:52:45,340
slash counsel...

6721
02:52:45,340 --> 02:52:46,700
could be invaluable...

6722
02:52:46,700 --> 02:52:47,900
I know...

6723
02:52:47,900 --> 02:52:49,080
it really...

6724
02:52:49,080 --> 02:52:50,480
is suffering from...

6725
02:52:50,480 --> 02:52:52,360
lack of input...

6726
02:52:52,360 --> 02:52:53,200
from...

6727
02:52:53,200 --> 02:52:54,560
other podcasters...

6728
02:52:54,560 --> 02:52:56,240
that he would be...

6729
02:52:56,240 --> 02:52:56,880
up against...

6730
02:52:56,880 --> 02:52:57,560
especially...

6731
02:52:57,560 --> 02:52:58,900
Stewart and Campbell...

6732
02:52:58,900 --> 02:52:59,760
politics...

6733
02:52:59,760 --> 02:53:01,320
is not an entertainment show...

6734
02:53:01,320 --> 02:53:02,800
we represent...

6735
02:53:02,800 --> 02:53:03,800
real people...

6736
02:53:03,800 --> 02:53:05,080
and real lives...

6737
02:53:05,080 --> 02:53:05,680
so...

6738
02:53:05,680 --> 02:53:06,400
whether it kills...

6739
02:53:06,400 --> 02:53:07,580
your mood or not...

6740
02:53:07,580 --> 02:53:08,880
Campbell is a fucking...

6741
02:53:08,880 --> 02:53:09,880
waffler...

6742
02:53:09,880 --> 02:53:10,860
as well...

6743
02:53:10,860 --> 02:53:11,920
I don't know...

6744
02:53:11,920 --> 02:53:13,340
where he gets the gall...

6745
02:53:13,340 --> 02:53:14,340
coverage...

6746
02:53:14,340 --> 02:53:14,860
and...

6747
02:53:14,860 --> 02:53:15,300
to...

6748
02:53:15,300 --> 02:53:15,860
to...

6749
02:53:15,860 --> 02:53:16,260
to...

6750
02:53:16,260 --> 02:53:17,040
to...

6751
02:53:17,040 --> 02:53:18,540
continue with the prominence...

6752
02:53:18,540 --> 02:53:19,940
the prominence...

6753
02:53:19,940 --> 02:53:20,540
that he...

6754
02:53:20,540 --> 02:53:22,460
positions himself in...

6755
02:53:22,460 --> 02:53:22,760
I mean...

6756
02:53:22,760 --> 02:53:23,320
obviously...

6757
02:53:23,320 --> 02:53:24,460
it's the money...

6758
02:53:24,460 --> 02:53:26,080
but like...

6759
02:53:26,080 --> 02:53:27,100
some people...

6760
02:53:27,100 --> 02:53:27,400
have a...

6761
02:53:27,400 --> 02:53:28,720
have a neck...

6762
02:53:28,720 --> 02:53:30,240
I make no apology for it...

6763
02:53:30,240 --> 02:53:31,800
and I don't take myself...

6764
02:53:31,800 --> 02:53:33,020
that seriously...

6765
02:53:33,020 --> 02:53:33,300
you know...

6766
02:53:33,300 --> 02:53:34,360
I could never see...

6767
02:53:34,360 --> 02:53:35,720
Ivan massaging...

6768
02:53:35,720 --> 02:53:36,920
the details...

6769
02:53:36,920 --> 02:53:37,400
of...

6770
02:53:37,400 --> 02:53:38,280
you know...

6771
02:53:38,280 --> 02:53:39,280
the...

6772
02:53:39,280 --> 02:53:40,720
the findings of...

6773
02:53:40,720 --> 02:53:42,560
the science crowd...

6774
02:53:42,560 --> 02:53:43,960
regarding weapons...

6775
02:53:43,960 --> 02:53:44,920
of mass destruction...

6776
02:53:44,920 --> 02:53:45,320
so...

6777
02:53:45,320 --> 02:53:46,400
to enable the country...

6778
02:53:46,400 --> 02:53:48,640
to launch an attack...

6779
02:53:48,640 --> 02:53:49,320
just can't see...

6780
02:53:49,320 --> 02:53:50,720
it's just not in it...

6781
02:53:50,720 --> 02:53:52,080
by the political...

6782
02:53:52,080 --> 02:53:53,240
sphere...

6783
02:53:53,240 --> 02:53:53,980
would find...

6784
02:53:53,980 --> 02:53:54,820
politics...

6785
02:53:54,820 --> 02:53:55,780
an entertainment show...

6786
02:53:55,780 --> 02:53:56,060
so I...

6787
02:53:56,060 --> 02:53:57,100
I think you've answered...

6788
02:53:57,100 --> 02:53:57,660
Well it can be...

6789
02:53:57,660 --> 02:53:57,980
it can be...

6790
02:53:57,980 --> 02:53:59,020
I think I'll move on...

6791
02:53:59,020 --> 02:54:00,160
to the next question...

6792
02:54:00,160 --> 02:54:00,920
you spoke a lot...

6793
02:54:00,920 --> 02:54:01,720
about trust...

6794
02:54:01,720 --> 02:54:02,880
in your opening statement...

6795
02:54:02,880 --> 02:54:03,960
and widening the gap...

6796
02:54:03,960 --> 02:54:05,240
between ordinary people...

6797
02:54:05,240 --> 02:54:06,320
do you understand...

6798
02:54:06,320 --> 02:54:07,360
that trust in media...

6799
02:54:07,360 --> 02:54:08,060
is slipping...

6800
02:54:08,060 --> 02:54:08,940
in this country...

6801
02:54:08,940 --> 02:54:10,600
and your actions...

6802
02:54:10,600 --> 02:54:11,620
directly tie...

6803
02:54:11,620 --> 02:54:12,300
to the reasons...

6804
02:54:12,300 --> 02:54:13,220
that certain aspects...

6805
02:54:13,220 --> 02:54:14,060
of our society...

6806
02:54:14,060 --> 02:54:14,520
are becoming...

6807
02:54:14,520 --> 02:54:16,180
more distrustful...

6808
02:54:16,180 --> 02:54:16,560
well...

6809
02:54:16,560 --> 02:54:17,400
it's nothing to do...

6810
02:54:17,400 --> 02:54:18,060
with Ivan...

6811
02:54:18,060 --> 02:54:19,080
deputy...

6812
02:54:19,080 --> 02:54:20,560
people say to me...

6813
02:54:20,560 --> 02:54:21,420
that they consider...

6814
02:54:21,420 --> 02:54:22,020
this whole...

6815
02:54:22,020 --> 02:54:24,200
as a huge deflection...

6816
02:54:24,200 --> 02:54:24,820
and distraction...

6817
02:54:24,820 --> 02:54:25,660
from the real issues...

6818
02:54:25,660 --> 02:54:26,220
big time...

6819
02:54:26,220 --> 02:54:27,200
migration...

6820
02:54:27,200 --> 02:54:28,580
and so on...

6821
02:54:28,580 --> 02:54:29,460
and that actually...

6822
02:54:29,460 --> 02:54:30,740
they can't understand...

6823
02:54:30,740 --> 02:54:32,200
how so much focus is on it...

6824
02:54:32,200 --> 02:54:32,940
that's the reaction...

6825
02:54:32,940 --> 02:54:33,560
I'm getting...

6826
02:54:33,560 --> 02:54:34,860
from the public...

6827
02:54:34,860 --> 02:54:35,300
okay...

6828
02:54:35,300 --> 02:54:36,580
so you've no regrets...

6829
02:54:36,580 --> 02:54:37,380
about not being...

6830
02:54:37,380 --> 02:54:39,560
I have a couple of regrets...

6831
02:54:39,560 --> 02:54:41,280
I have a real regret...

6832
02:54:41,280 --> 02:54:42,120
for Ema Bradley...

6833
02:54:42,120 --> 02:54:42,760
and her team...

6834
02:54:42,760 --> 02:54:43,660
in the Pat Kenny show...

6835
02:54:43,660 --> 02:54:44,420
and the situation...

6836
02:54:44,420 --> 02:54:45,100
they've been in...

6837
02:54:45,100 --> 02:54:46,860
I have some regrets...

6838
02:54:46,860 --> 02:54:47,680
in relation to...

6839
02:54:47,680 --> 02:54:48,840
the smearing the bejesus...

6840
02:54:48,840 --> 02:54:49,700
comments...

6841
02:54:49,700 --> 02:54:50,480
and the impact...

6842
02:54:50,480 --> 02:54:51,280
and the way they were used...

6843
02:54:51,280 --> 02:54:52,620
by the Connolly campaign...

6844
02:54:52,620 --> 02:54:53,300
and the impact...

6845
02:54:53,300 --> 02:54:54,660
it had on Heather Humphreys...

6846
02:54:54,660 --> 02:54:54,920
don't regret...

6847
02:54:54,920 --> 02:54:55,820
the context of that...

6848
02:54:55,820 --> 02:54:57,180
was on the 8th of October...

6849
02:54:57,180 --> 02:54:58,880
after Jim Gavin...

6850
02:54:58,880 --> 02:55:00,040
had left the field...

6851
02:55:00,040 --> 02:55:01,060
I was discussing it...

6852
02:55:01,060 --> 02:55:02,020
on a calling of podcast...

6853
02:55:02,020 --> 02:55:02,580
and I said...

6854
02:55:02,580 --> 02:55:03,240
game over...

6855
02:55:03,240 --> 02:55:04,240
Catherine Connolly's going to

6856
02:55:04,240 --> 02:55:04,760
win...

6857
02:55:04,760 --> 02:55:05,640
one of the options...

6858
02:55:05,640 --> 02:55:06,680
is to go negative...

6859
02:55:06,680 --> 02:55:07,700
and I used a...

6860
02:55:07,700 --> 02:55:08,560
colourful phrase about that...

6861
02:55:08,560 --> 02:55:10,940
the lie had gone...

6862
02:55:10,940 --> 02:55:11,840
the whole way around...

6863
02:55:11,840 --> 02:55:12,520
Ireland...

6864
02:55:12,520 --> 02:55:14,020
that I was actually involved...

6865
02:55:14,020 --> 02:55:14,860
in the Heather Humphreys

6866
02:55:14,860 --> 02:55:15,560
campaign...

6867
02:55:15,560 --> 02:55:16,280
and then later...

6868
02:55:16,280 --> 02:55:17,560
Finnegale accused me...

6869
02:55:17,560 --> 02:55:18,140
of being part of...

6870
02:55:18,140 --> 02:55:19,700
some feel-a-fall campaign...

6871
02:55:19,700 --> 02:55:20,380
and saying that...

6872
02:55:20,380 --> 02:55:22,560
I just made the comments...

6873
02:55:22,560 --> 02:55:24,120
in a punditry way...

6874
02:55:24,120 --> 02:55:25,320
of one of the options...

6875
02:55:25,320 --> 02:55:26,660
is when you're losing...

6876
02:55:26,660 --> 02:55:27,220
you know...

6877
02:55:27,220 --> 02:55:28,400
it's a Trumpian option...

6878
02:55:28,400 --> 02:55:29,880
I was over in 2016...

6879
02:55:29,880 --> 02:55:31,120
for 16 weeks...

6880
02:55:31,120 --> 02:55:32,120
in America...

6881
02:55:32,120 --> 02:55:32,420
you know...

6882
02:55:32,420 --> 02:55:33,640
lock Hillary up...

6883
02:55:33,640 --> 02:55:34,040
like...

6884
02:55:34,040 --> 02:55:34,760
to go negative...

6885
02:55:34,760 --> 02:55:35,960
is always an option...

6886
02:55:35,960 --> 02:55:36,660
in a campaign...

6887
02:55:36,660 --> 02:55:37,940
that was the context...

6888
02:55:37,940 --> 02:55:39,220
it was nothing to do...

6889
02:55:39,220 --> 02:55:40,360
with anything else...

6890
02:55:40,360 --> 02:55:41,160
politics...

6891
02:55:41,160 --> 02:55:41,600
it's a...

6892
02:55:41,600 --> 02:55:43,380
it's a dirty business...

6893
02:55:43,380 --> 02:55:45,720
so he's only espousing...

6894
02:55:45,720 --> 02:55:47,780
what's already out there...

6895
02:55:47,780 --> 02:55:48,320
it's not...

6896
02:55:48,320 --> 02:55:49,760
it's not like he's...

6897
02:55:49,760 --> 02:55:50,640
it's all untrue...

6898
02:55:50,640 --> 02:55:52,100
so in all your regrets...

6899
02:55:52,100 --> 02:55:53,060
you have no regrets...

6900
02:55:53,060 --> 02:55:54,020
he's bringing everything...

6901
02:55:54,020 --> 02:55:54,880
into dispute...

6902
02:55:54,880 --> 02:55:55,200
you know...

6903
02:55:55,200 --> 02:55:57,840
I put it like this...

6904
02:55:57,840 --> 02:55:58,620
I...

6905
02:55:58,620 --> 02:55:59,660
I can only deal...

6906
02:55:59,660 --> 02:56:00,700
with my own actions...

6907
02:56:00,700 --> 02:56:01,360
just yes or no...

6908
02:56:01,360 --> 02:56:02,020
sorry no...

6909
02:56:02,020 --> 02:56:03,020
I don't feel...

6910
02:56:03,020 --> 02:56:03,720
I have...

6911
02:56:03,720 --> 02:56:05,280
contributed to public distrust...

6912
02:56:05,280 --> 02:56:05,780
okay...

6913
02:56:05,780 --> 02:56:07,500
how many election campaigns...

6914
02:56:07,500 --> 02:56:08,600
have you been tutoring...

6915
02:56:08,600 --> 02:56:09,720
government TDs for...

6916
02:56:09,720 --> 02:56:11,280
including European...

6917
02:56:11,280 --> 02:56:12,500
general and president...

6918
02:56:12,500 --> 02:56:14,220
so as a candidate myself...

6919
02:56:14,220 --> 02:56:14,780
I fought eight...

6920
02:56:14,780 --> 02:56:16,520
consecutive general elections...

6921
02:56:16,520 --> 02:56:16,800
no...

6922
02:56:16,800 --> 02:56:18,120
how many have you been tutoring...

6923
02:56:18,120 --> 02:56:19,580
training government TDs...

6924
02:56:19,580 --> 02:56:20,580
in media...

6925
02:56:20,580 --> 02:56:21,180
as you know...

6926
02:56:21,180 --> 02:56:22,000
I don't discuss...

6927
02:56:22,000 --> 02:56:23,560
my clients activities...

6928
02:56:23,560 --> 02:56:24,080
beautiful...

6929
02:56:24,080 --> 02:56:24,880
I'm just asking for a number...

6930
02:56:24,880 --> 02:56:25,980
I don't put it like this...

6931
02:56:25,980 --> 02:56:26,920
I mean like...

6932
02:56:26,920 --> 02:56:28,760
and sorry...

6933
02:56:28,760 --> 02:56:29,420
I have not...

6934
02:56:29,420 --> 02:56:29,700
maybe...

6935
02:56:29,700 --> 02:56:30,780
maybe to be helpful...

6936
02:56:30,780 --> 02:56:32,540
at a range of time...

6937
02:56:32,540 --> 02:56:33,220
okay...

6938
02:56:33,220 --> 02:56:34,440
just returning...

6939
02:56:34,440 --> 02:56:35,140
to your...

6940
02:56:35,140 --> 02:56:36,460
smear the bejesus...

6941
02:56:36,460 --> 02:56:36,580
yeah...

6942
02:56:36,580 --> 02:56:37,180
comment out...

6943
02:56:37,180 --> 02:56:38,860
that you actually brought up...

6944
02:56:38,860 --> 02:56:39,700
yourself there...

6945
02:56:39,700 --> 02:56:40,520
can you...

6946
02:56:40,520 --> 02:56:41,920
can you expand on that...

6947
02:56:41,920 --> 02:56:43,140
where it came from...

6948
02:56:43,140 --> 02:56:44,360
or where your train of thought...

6949
02:56:44,360 --> 02:56:45,720
was in that moment...

6950
02:56:45,720 --> 02:56:46,980
did you suggest it...

6951
02:56:46,980 --> 02:56:47,780
as a tactic...

6952
02:56:47,780 --> 02:56:49,240
because it was a tactic...

6953
02:56:49,240 --> 02:56:50,260
you suggested...

6954
02:56:50,260 --> 02:56:51,760
to the Fianna Fáil candidates...

6955
02:56:51,760 --> 02:56:52,820
and perhaps other Fianna Fáil

6956
02:56:52,820 --> 02:56:53,640
ministers...

6957
02:56:53,640 --> 02:56:54,710
that you were training at the

6958
02:56:54,710 --> 02:56:55,340
time...

6959
02:56:55,340 --> 02:56:55,680
no...

6960
02:56:55,680 --> 02:56:57,260
I have no connection...

6961
02:56:57,260 --> 02:56:57,900
no connection...

6962
02:56:57,900 --> 02:56:59,340
with any Fianna Fáil ministers...

6963
02:56:59,340 --> 02:57:00,540
or Fianna Gael ministers...

6964
02:57:00,540 --> 02:57:01,180
or...

6965
02:57:01,180 --> 02:57:02,700
either the Humphreys campaign...

6966
02:57:02,700 --> 02:57:03,320
or anything else...

6967
02:57:03,320 --> 02:57:04,480
the situation was...

6968
02:57:04,480 --> 02:57:05,700
the Fianna Fáil candidate...

6969
02:57:05,700 --> 02:57:06,540
that you were training...

6970
02:57:06,540 --> 02:57:06,780
no...

6971
02:57:06,780 --> 02:57:07,160
sorry...

6972
02:57:07,160 --> 02:57:08,540
he left the campaign...

6973
02:57:08,540 --> 02:57:09,980
on the 5th of October...

6974
02:57:09,980 --> 02:57:11,760
this was a completely separate...

6975
02:57:11,760 --> 02:57:12,760
calling and podcast...

6976
02:57:12,760 --> 02:57:13,600
where I was analysing the

6977
02:57:13,600 --> 02:57:14,340
election...

6978
02:57:14,340 --> 02:57:16,200
the central point I made was...

6979
02:57:16,200 --> 02:57:17,720
there was a tag team...

6980
02:57:17,720 --> 02:57:19,420
that was really successful...

6981
02:57:19,420 --> 02:57:20,640
in the European...

6982
02:57:20,640 --> 02:57:21,200
local...

6983
02:57:21,200 --> 02:57:22,080
and general elections...

6984
02:57:22,080 --> 02:57:22,940
between Fianna Gael...

6985
02:57:22,940 --> 02:57:23,980
Fianna Fáil transfers...

6986
02:57:23,980 --> 02:57:25,620
at 40%...

6987
02:57:25,620 --> 02:57:27,020
now that Fianna Fáil...

6988
02:57:27,020 --> 02:57:28,160
were imploding...

6989
02:57:28,160 --> 02:57:28,940
I said...

6990
02:57:28,940 --> 02:57:29,140
you know...

6991
02:57:29,140 --> 02:57:30,100
this is over...

6992
02:57:30,100 --> 02:57:31,240
and in that context...

6993
02:57:31,240 --> 02:57:31,940
what options...

6994
02:57:31,940 --> 02:57:32,900
little pig the nose...

6995
02:57:32,900 --> 02:57:33,940
but I wasn't actually advising

6996
02:57:33,940 --> 02:57:34,480
them...

6997
02:57:34,480 --> 02:57:35,100
I was just...

6998
02:57:35,100 --> 02:57:36,040
talking through...

6999
02:57:36,040 --> 02:57:37,540
analysis of the campaign...

7000
02:57:37,540 --> 02:57:38,860
so it wasn't a tactic...

7001
02:57:38,860 --> 02:57:40,080
that you had gone through...

7002
02:57:40,080 --> 02:57:41,190
in previous media training

7003
02:57:41,190 --> 02:57:42,040
sessions...

7004
02:57:42,040 --> 02:57:43,260
with the Fianna Fáil candidate...

7005
02:57:43,260 --> 02:57:44,400
it wasn't a tactic...

7006
02:57:44,400 --> 02:57:46,160
absolutely not...

7007
02:57:46,160 --> 02:57:46,880
it wasn't...

7008
02:57:46,880 --> 02:57:47,260
okay...

7009
02:57:47,260 --> 02:57:47,820
absolutely not...

7010
02:57:47,820 --> 02:57:48,760
and just...

7011
02:57:48,760 --> 02:57:49,820
absolutely not...

7012
02:57:49,820 --> 02:57:50,940
another sip...

7013
02:57:50,940 --> 02:57:51,920
of water there...

7014
02:57:51,920 --> 02:57:52,860
he just knows...

7015
02:57:52,860 --> 02:57:53,360
this is...

7016
02:57:53,360 --> 02:57:54,160
this is...

7017
02:57:54,160 --> 02:57:55,360
autopilot...

7018
02:57:55,360 --> 02:57:56,120
at this stage...

7019
02:57:56,120 --> 02:57:56,760
for himself...

7020
02:57:56,760 --> 02:57:58,600
it's autocruise...

7021
02:57:58,600 --> 02:58:00,040
the only time...

7022
02:58:00,040 --> 02:58:01,300
he's really seemed...

7023
02:58:01,300 --> 02:58:03,000
slightly flustered...

7024
02:58:03,000 --> 02:58:04,080
he managed to work...

7025
02:58:04,080 --> 02:58:05,140
back the room...

7026
02:58:05,140 --> 02:58:06,040
work the crowd...

7027
02:58:06,040 --> 02:58:08,480
get a Joe kid there...

7028
02:58:08,480 --> 02:58:10,040
do you know...

7029
02:58:10,040 --> 02:58:10,640
um...

7030
02:58:10,640 --> 02:58:11,920
he's just...

7031
02:58:11,920 --> 02:58:13,040
you know...

7032
02:58:13,040 --> 02:58:13,720
taking the ball...

7033
02:58:13,720 --> 02:58:14,680
down to the corner flag...

7034
02:58:14,680 --> 02:58:15,180
at the moment...

7035
02:58:15,180 --> 02:58:16,160
and playing the time out...

7036
02:58:16,160 --> 02:58:16,840
thank you very much...

7037
02:58:16,840 --> 02:58:17,940
there master of Yates...

7038
02:58:17,940 --> 02:58:19,320
her monies...

7039
02:58:19,320 --> 02:58:20,540
I'm heading to Black Rock...

7040
02:58:20,540 --> 02:58:21,140
to get some of that...

7041
02:58:21,140 --> 02:58:22,300
fantastic artisanal...

7042
02:58:22,300 --> 02:58:23,120
Yates dip...

7043
02:58:23,120 --> 02:58:24,860
to put on plates...

7044
02:58:24,860 --> 02:58:25,700
my hub's...

7045
02:58:25,700 --> 02:58:27,020
birthday blowout...

7046
02:58:27,020 --> 02:58:28,500
it works with anything...

7047
02:58:28,500 --> 02:58:28,780
he's like...

7048
02:58:28,780 --> 02:58:30,200
gonna smear the bejesus...

7049
02:58:30,200 --> 02:58:30,680
out of it...

7050
02:58:30,680 --> 02:58:32,300
on some toast...

7051
02:58:32,300 --> 02:58:33,920
happiest birthday...

7052
02:58:33,920 --> 02:58:34,960
to David...

7053
02:58:34,960 --> 02:58:35,640
all the best...

7054
02:58:35,640 --> 02:58:36,600
and enjoy that...

7055
02:58:36,600 --> 02:58:38,000
Yates toast...

7056
02:58:38,000 --> 02:58:39,180
so the nature of coaching...

7057
02:58:39,180 --> 02:58:40,820
is to get the confidence...

7058
02:58:40,820 --> 02:58:42,220
of the person I'm coaching...

7059
02:58:42,220 --> 02:58:43,200
to improve him...

7060
02:58:43,200 --> 02:58:43,960
or her...

7061
02:58:43,960 --> 02:58:44,560
and that's...

7062
02:58:44,560 --> 02:58:45,380
it's never...

7063
02:58:45,380 --> 02:58:46,460
to get into the wider...

7064
02:58:46,460 --> 02:58:47,260
strategic...

7065
02:58:47,260 --> 02:58:48,800
or to get into content...

7066
02:58:48,800 --> 02:58:50,140
that's essentially what...

7067
02:58:50,140 --> 02:58:51,080
that...

7068
02:58:51,080 --> 02:58:52,200
that really works well...

7069
02:58:52,200 --> 02:58:52,520
sorry...

7070
02:58:52,520 --> 02:58:53,780
just going back to that...

7071
02:58:53,780 --> 02:58:54,400
you know...

7072
02:58:54,400 --> 02:58:55,700
smearing the bejesus...

7073
02:58:55,700 --> 02:58:56,560
out of the...

7074
02:58:56,560 --> 02:58:58,680
artisanal Yates dip...

7075
02:58:58,680 --> 02:59:00,540
which...

7076
02:59:00,540 --> 02:59:00,660
it...

7077
02:59:00,660 --> 02:59:01,620
it brings it back...

7078
02:59:01,620 --> 02:59:02,020
to the...

7079
02:59:02,020 --> 02:59:03,680
the analogy of him being...

7080
02:59:03,680 --> 02:59:05,280
a label-less...

7081
02:59:05,280 --> 02:59:05,900
dip...

7082
02:59:05,900 --> 02:59:07,620
based on the fact...

7083
02:59:07,620 --> 02:59:08,340
that everyone...

7084
02:59:08,340 --> 02:59:09,740
is in agreement...

7085
02:59:09,740 --> 02:59:10,820
that...

7086
02:59:10,820 --> 02:59:12,180
he is...

7087
02:59:12,180 --> 02:59:13,980
the one and only...

7088
02:59:13,980 --> 02:59:14,740
product...

7089
02:59:14,740 --> 02:59:16,420
there's nothing else...

7090
02:59:16,420 --> 02:59:17,100
that can touch it...

7091
02:59:17,100 --> 02:59:17,360
there...

7092
02:59:17,360 --> 02:59:18,960
except no imitations...

7093
02:59:18,960 --> 02:59:20,000
there are none...

7094
02:59:20,000 --> 02:59:20,880
they haven't worked out...

7095
02:59:20,880 --> 02:59:21,280
how to even...

7096
02:59:22,920 --> 02:59:24,120
jig up a recipe...

7097
02:59:24,120 --> 02:59:25,220
to even...

7098
02:59:25,220 --> 02:59:25,980
match it...

7099
02:59:25,980 --> 02:59:27,160
transpired from...

7100
02:59:27,160 --> 02:59:28,460
as a result of that comment...

7101
02:59:28,460 --> 02:59:28,680
what?

7102
02:59:29,200 --> 02:59:30,880
to get into the nature...

7103
02:59:30,880 --> 02:59:31,420
of strategy...

7104
02:59:31,420 --> 02:59:33,240
that was my analysis of it...

7105
02:59:33,240 --> 02:59:33,700
it was nothing to do...

7106
02:59:33,700 --> 02:59:34,620
with my coaching...

7107
02:59:34,620 --> 02:59:35,260
lovely...

7108
02:59:35,260 --> 02:59:35,260
lovely...

7109
02:59:35,260 --> 02:59:36,340
and just finally...

7110
02:59:36,340 --> 02:59:36,680
if I may...

7111
02:59:36,680 --> 02:59:37,480
because we're running out of

7112
02:59:37,480 --> 02:59:37,920
time...

7113
02:59:37,920 --> 02:59:39,660
you've been on the record...

7114
02:59:39,660 --> 02:59:40,500
since this...

7115
02:59:40,500 --> 02:59:41,260
all...

7116
02:59:41,260 --> 02:59:42,140
blew up...

7117
02:59:42,140 --> 02:59:43,040
in your face...

7118
02:59:43,040 --> 02:59:44,460
saying that there's an onus...

7119
02:59:44,460 --> 02:59:46,260
on the people you are providing...

7120
02:59:46,260 --> 02:59:46,920
training to...

7121
02:59:46,920 --> 02:59:48,540
to declare it themselves...

7122
02:59:48,540 --> 02:59:49,480
that they were receiving that

7123
02:59:49,480 --> 02:59:50,140
training...

7124
02:59:50,140 --> 02:59:50,800
that that wasn't...

7125
02:59:50,800 --> 02:59:51,460
I did not say that...

7126
02:59:51,460 --> 02:59:52,340
I don't think I said that...

7127
02:59:52,340 --> 02:59:53,360
what way did you say it...

7128
02:59:53,360 --> 02:59:53,680
no...

7129
02:59:53,680 --> 02:59:54,740
what I said is...

7130
02:59:54,740 --> 02:59:55,920
if they reveal it...

7131
02:59:55,920 --> 02:59:57,080
it's their business...

7132
02:59:57,080 --> 02:59:59,120
but I won't be revealing it...

7133
02:59:59,120 --> 02:59:59,600
okay...

7134
02:59:59,600 --> 03:00:00,800
and do you feel...

7135
03:00:00,800 --> 03:00:02,240
that it was right...

7136
03:00:02,240 --> 03:00:03,960
for them not to reveal it...

7137
03:00:03,960 --> 03:00:05,020
or would you have preferred...

7138
03:00:05,020 --> 03:00:05,620
that they did...

7139
03:00:05,620 --> 03:00:06,290
and you might not be in this

7140
03:00:06,290 --> 03:00:06,880
position...

7141
03:00:06,880 --> 03:00:07,720
that you're in at the moment...

7142
03:00:07,720 --> 03:00:08,790
that is entirely a matter for

7143
03:00:08,790 --> 03:00:09,400
them...

7144
03:00:09,400 --> 03:00:10,400
entirely a matter for them...

7145
03:00:10,400 --> 03:00:12,120
so you don't give any opinion...

7146
03:00:12,120 --> 03:00:13,220
put it like this...

7147
03:00:13,220 --> 03:00:14,620
I mean...

7148
03:00:14,620 --> 03:00:16,460
all clients...

7149
03:00:16,460 --> 03:00:17,540
if they ask me to respect

7150
03:00:17,540 --> 03:00:18,720
confidentiality...

7151
03:00:18,720 --> 03:00:20,420
that is my commitment...

7152
03:00:20,420 --> 03:00:20,980
okay...

7153
03:00:20,980 --> 03:00:21,960
what they decide to do...

7154
03:00:21,960 --> 03:00:22,720
is their business out there...

7155
03:00:22,720 --> 03:00:24,060
in your old clients...

7156
03:00:24,060 --> 03:00:25,420
without naming names...

7157
03:00:25,420 --> 03:00:26,360
can you confirm...

7158
03:00:26,360 --> 03:00:28,600
if current or previous T-Sheik...

7159
03:00:28,600 --> 03:00:29,700
were clients of yours...

7160
03:00:29,700 --> 03:00:30,580
that received media training...

7161
03:00:30,580 --> 03:00:31,140
needless to say...

7162
03:00:31,140 --> 03:00:31,930
I'm not going to be answered

7163
03:00:31,930 --> 03:00:32,640
that question...

7164
03:00:32,640 --> 03:00:34,140
tearing the arse out of it...

7165
03:00:34,140 --> 03:00:35,580
Yates to the face...

7166
03:00:35,580 --> 03:00:37,360
very welcome Ivan...

7167
03:00:37,360 --> 03:00:38,900
and I say fair play to you...

7168
03:00:38,900 --> 03:00:39,600
for coming here...

7169
03:00:39,600 --> 03:00:40,580
because plenty refused...

7170
03:00:42,140 --> 03:00:42,940
first of all...

7171
03:00:42,940 --> 03:00:44,060
I'm going to dwell on the point...

7172
03:00:44,060 --> 03:00:44,810
that was brought up a number of

7173
03:00:44,810 --> 03:00:45,260
times...

7174
03:00:45,260 --> 03:00:46,700
is conflict of interest...

7175
03:00:46,700 --> 03:00:47,960
yet again...

7176
03:00:47,960 --> 03:00:49,440
but we just don't...

7177
03:00:49,440 --> 03:00:50,900
don't like that...

7178
03:00:50,900 --> 03:00:52,580
you're training somebody...

7179
03:00:52,580 --> 03:00:53,360
in the meantime...

7180
03:00:53,360 --> 03:00:54,960
this guy has...

7181
03:00:54,960 --> 03:00:57,020
has an axe to grind...

7182
03:00:57,020 --> 03:00:57,360
here...

7183
03:00:57,360 --> 03:00:59,120
I can sense that...

7184
03:00:59,120 --> 03:01:01,000
immediately from the tone...

7185
03:01:01,000 --> 03:01:03,180
but the proximity...

7186
03:01:03,180 --> 03:01:04,840
of the water jug to the mic...

7187
03:01:04,840 --> 03:01:06,000
is quite...

7188
03:01:06,000 --> 03:01:07,160
jarring...

7189
03:01:07,160 --> 03:01:08,040
I don't know if you heard that

7190
03:01:08,040 --> 03:01:08,620
pour...

7191
03:01:08,620 --> 03:01:09,100
it was...

7192
03:01:09,100 --> 03:01:09,940
it was...

7193
03:01:09,940 --> 03:01:10,920
a bit obtrusive...

7194
03:01:10,920 --> 03:01:12,460
plenty refused...

7195
03:01:12,460 --> 03:01:13,960
first of all...

7196
03:01:13,960 --> 03:01:15,080
I'm going to dwell on the point...

7197
03:01:15,080 --> 03:01:15,830
that was brought up a number of

7198
03:01:15,830 --> 03:01:16,280
times...

7199
03:01:16,280 --> 03:01:17,740
is conflict of interest...

7200
03:01:17,740 --> 03:01:18,460
yet again...

7201
03:01:19,000 --> 03:01:19,460
but I...

7202
03:01:19,460 --> 03:01:20,280
we just don't...

7203
03:01:20,280 --> 03:01:22,060
was that a subliminal...

7204
03:01:22,060 --> 03:01:23,060
usage...

7205
03:01:23,060 --> 03:01:23,660
usage...

7206
03:01:23,660 --> 03:01:24,440
of that pour...

7207
03:01:24,440 --> 03:01:25,460
at that particular time...

7208
03:01:25,460 --> 03:01:27,240
had he asked someone...

7209
03:01:27,240 --> 03:01:28,340
to do a big pour...

7210
03:01:28,340 --> 03:01:30,060
when I say conflict of interest...

7211
03:01:31,060 --> 03:01:32,540
in some way...

7212
03:01:32,540 --> 03:01:34,060
to maybe smuggle in...

7213
03:01:35,660 --> 03:01:36,460
to our...

7214
03:01:36,460 --> 03:01:37,060
to our subconscious...

7215
03:01:38,340 --> 03:01:39,060
mind...

7216
03:01:39,060 --> 03:01:40,060
that the...

7217
03:01:40,060 --> 03:01:43,300
that he was spilling the beans...

7218
03:01:43,300 --> 03:01:43,460
or...

7219
03:01:43,460 --> 03:01:45,200
or losing the run...

7220
03:01:45,200 --> 03:01:46,080
of himself...

7221
03:01:46,080 --> 03:01:47,080
in some way...

7222
03:01:47,080 --> 03:01:47,320
you know...

7223
03:01:47,320 --> 03:01:49,020
he was pissing it away...

7224
03:01:49,020 --> 03:01:52,520
maybe it's conspiratorial...

7225
03:01:52,520 --> 03:01:53,300
but I think that there was

7226
03:01:53,300 --> 03:01:54,240
something there...

7227
03:01:54,240 --> 03:01:54,820
and I think that...

7228
03:01:54,820 --> 03:01:55,800
it was too...

7229
03:01:55,800 --> 03:01:57,080
it was too on the nose...

7230
03:01:57,080 --> 03:01:57,980
I won't understand...

7231
03:01:57,980 --> 03:01:59,980
you're training somebody...

7232
03:02:00,980 --> 03:02:01,980
in the media...

7233
03:02:01,980 --> 03:02:04,760
spaceboostedwaterpour.wav...

7234
03:02:04,760 --> 03:02:07,040
I'm not sure...

7235
03:02:07,040 --> 03:02:07,660
if it was...

7236
03:02:07,660 --> 03:02:08,300
played in...

7237
03:02:08,300 --> 03:02:09,060
piped in...

7238
03:02:09,060 --> 03:02:09,360
I mean...

7239
03:02:09,360 --> 03:02:10,940
that's another theory as well...

7240
03:02:10,940 --> 03:02:12,180
it's circulating...

7241
03:02:12,180 --> 03:02:14,100
it's swirling around...

7242
03:02:14,100 --> 03:02:14,640
but...

7243
03:02:14,640 --> 03:02:16,040
I think that was...

7244
03:02:16,040 --> 03:02:17,900
a physically done situation...

7245
03:02:17,900 --> 03:02:19,160
right at that time...

7246
03:02:19,160 --> 03:02:20,760
right at that moment...

7247
03:02:20,760 --> 03:02:23,480
and then you're going in...

7248
03:02:23,480 --> 03:02:24,580
maybe within the same day...

7249
03:02:24,580 --> 03:02:25,680
as we heard very long...

7250
03:02:25,680 --> 03:02:26,760
to give political...

7251
03:02:26,760 --> 03:02:27,560
commentary on it...

7252
03:02:28,320 --> 03:02:29,560
how is that not...

7253
03:02:30,200 --> 03:02:31,460
conflict of interest...

7254
03:02:31,460 --> 03:02:32,560
is that not...

7255
03:02:33,080 --> 03:02:33,560
you literally...

7256
03:02:34,480 --> 03:02:35,600
training Troy Parrott...

7257
03:02:35,600 --> 03:02:36,560
and the Irish team...

7258
03:02:36,560 --> 03:02:37,780
and refereeing...

7259
03:02:37,780 --> 03:02:38,560
the game in the second half...

7260
03:02:39,180 --> 03:02:39,800
it's not...

7261
03:02:39,800 --> 03:02:40,160
you know...

7262
03:02:40,160 --> 03:02:41,320
what I would say is this...

7263
03:02:41,320 --> 03:02:41,840
it's not...

7264
03:02:41,840 --> 03:02:43,360
and he'll tell you why...

7265
03:02:43,360 --> 03:02:44,620
produce the evidence...

7266
03:02:44,620 --> 03:02:45,560
where I showed bias...

7267
03:02:46,140 --> 03:02:46,920
where I showed...

7268
03:02:46,920 --> 03:02:47,560
lack of objectivity...

7269
03:02:48,360 --> 03:02:49,560
in any public comments...

7270
03:02:50,080 --> 03:02:51,020
produce the evidence...

7271
03:02:51,020 --> 03:02:52,300
that's the real test of this...

7272
03:02:52,300 --> 03:02:53,400
for the public...

7273
03:02:53,400 --> 03:02:53,880
you know...

7274
03:02:53,880 --> 03:02:54,600
did I...

7275
03:02:54,600 --> 03:02:56,260
did I say something...

7276
03:02:56,260 --> 03:02:57,820
over a period of time...

7277
03:02:57,820 --> 03:02:59,480
that tried to move people...

7278
03:02:59,480 --> 03:03:00,540
in a certain direction...

7279
03:03:00,540 --> 03:03:02,220
because I had a connection...

7280
03:03:02,220 --> 03:03:02,900
with them...

7281
03:03:02,900 --> 03:03:03,680
and I'm...

7282
03:03:03,680 --> 03:03:05,020
I'm submitting...

7283
03:03:05,020 --> 03:03:06,380
that there's actually...

7284
03:03:06,380 --> 03:03:07,780
no evidence of that...

7285
03:03:07,780 --> 03:03:09,080
but I'm quite happy...

7286
03:03:09,080 --> 03:03:09,960
for Commissioner Mon...

7287
03:03:09,960 --> 03:03:11,320
to assess that...

7288
03:03:11,320 --> 03:03:13,180
why are you putting the onus...

7289
03:03:13,180 --> 03:03:14,120
on the people...

7290
03:03:14,120 --> 03:03:15,120
and not on yourself...

7291
03:03:15,120 --> 03:03:15,760
even...

7292
03:03:15,760 --> 03:03:16,320
for this...

7293
03:03:16,320 --> 03:03:16,700
sorry...

7294
03:03:16,700 --> 03:03:17,300
can I just finish...

7295
03:03:17,300 --> 03:03:18,520
you're the one that...

7296
03:03:18,520 --> 03:03:19,260
as many times...

7297
03:03:19,260 --> 03:03:19,400
we can bring it up...

7298
03:03:19,400 --> 03:03:20,460
and bring it up on record...

7299
03:03:20,460 --> 03:03:21,560
that takes the high moral

7300
03:03:21,560 --> 03:03:22,400
ground...

7301
03:03:22,400 --> 03:03:22,600
on your...

7302
03:03:22,600 --> 03:03:23,120
you...

7303
03:03:23,120 --> 03:03:24,280
you're up there...

7304
03:03:24,280 --> 03:03:25,120
whatever...

7305
03:03:25,120 --> 03:03:25,520
so to...

7306
03:03:25,520 --> 03:03:26,140
I've been accused...

7307
03:03:26,140 --> 03:03:27,240
of a lot of things...

7308
03:03:27,240 --> 03:03:28,500
I've never been accused...

7309
03:03:28,500 --> 03:03:29,460
of being on the high moral

7310
03:03:29,460 --> 03:03:30,180
ground...

7311
03:03:30,180 --> 03:03:30,460
but...

7312
03:03:30,460 --> 03:03:32,080
but for you to stand up...

7313
03:03:32,080 --> 03:03:33,840
and you to say...

7314
03:03:33,840 --> 03:03:35,280
you to take the lead on it...

7315
03:03:35,280 --> 03:03:36,220
why are you asking the public?

7316
03:03:37,520 --> 03:03:38,720
I'm not asking the public...

7317
03:03:38,720 --> 03:03:39,660
to take any lead...

7318
03:03:39,660 --> 03:03:40,720
I'm asking...

7319
03:03:40,720 --> 03:03:41,720
the public...

7320
03:03:41,720 --> 03:03:42,720
to examine...

7321
03:03:42,720 --> 03:03:43,900
what I've said...

7322
03:03:43,900 --> 03:03:45,720
in a different role...

7323
03:03:45,720 --> 03:03:47,720
I actually think...

7324
03:03:47,720 --> 03:03:49,720
that the nature of coaching...

7325
03:03:50,280 --> 03:03:50,540
it's...

7326
03:03:50,540 --> 03:03:51,520
I've described as like...

7327
03:03:51,520 --> 03:03:52,160
a physio...

7328
03:03:52,160 --> 03:03:52,780
on a team...

7329
03:03:52,780 --> 03:03:53,300
it's like...

7330
03:03:53,300 --> 03:03:54,720
I'm not the banished door...

7331
03:03:54,720 --> 03:03:55,360
I'm not...

7332
03:03:55,360 --> 03:03:55,720
the selector...

7333
03:03:56,440 --> 03:03:56,620
I'm...

7334
03:03:56,620 --> 03:03:57,680
I'm simply...

7335
03:03:57,680 --> 03:03:58,500
getting my...

7336
03:03:58,500 --> 03:04:00,600
getting down...

7337
03:04:00,600 --> 03:04:01,860
and just...

7338
03:04:01,860 --> 03:04:02,720
massaging...

7339
03:04:02,720 --> 03:04:04,100
the information...

7340
03:04:04,100 --> 03:04:05,020
massaging...

7341
03:04:05,020 --> 03:04:05,640
the muscles...

7342
03:04:05,640 --> 03:04:06,640
getting the muscles...

7343
03:04:06,640 --> 03:04:07,500
primed...

7344
03:04:07,500 --> 03:04:08,500
and ready...

7345
03:04:08,500 --> 03:04:09,540
to play...

7346
03:04:09,540 --> 03:04:11,060
it's not like he's...

7347
03:04:11,060 --> 03:04:12,120
having to inject...

7348
03:04:12,120 --> 03:04:13,640
any sort of ideology...

7349
03:04:13,640 --> 03:04:14,720
or philosophy...

7350
03:04:14,720 --> 03:04:15,700
or anything like that...

7351
03:04:15,700 --> 03:04:16,780
he's not taking anything...

7352
03:04:16,780 --> 03:04:17,680
away from it either...

7353
03:04:18,860 --> 03:04:19,240
he's...

7354
03:04:19,240 --> 03:04:21,680
operating as a mercenary...

7355
03:04:21,680 --> 03:04:23,680
and his trade...

7356
03:04:24,540 --> 03:04:25,680
is communications...

7357
03:04:25,680 --> 03:04:26,680
and strategy...

7358
03:04:27,880 --> 03:04:28,160
you know...

7359
03:04:28,160 --> 03:04:29,680
that's a side issue...

7360
03:04:29,680 --> 03:04:30,680
it's a side hustle...

7361
03:04:33,220 --> 03:04:34,760
job is to anticipate...

7362
03:04:34,760 --> 03:04:35,680
the questions...

7363
03:04:36,200 --> 03:04:36,940
they come up...

7364
03:04:36,940 --> 03:04:37,820
with the answers...

7365
03:04:37,820 --> 03:04:38,380
and...

7366
03:04:38,380 --> 03:04:39,020
for them...

7367
03:04:39,020 --> 03:04:39,880
to actually...

7368
03:04:39,880 --> 03:04:40,920
deal with the task...

7369
03:04:40,920 --> 03:04:41,820
in hand...

7370
03:04:41,820 --> 03:04:42,420
it is...

7371
03:04:42,420 --> 03:04:42,700
it is...

7372
03:04:42,700 --> 03:04:43,540
it is an...

7373
03:04:43,540 --> 03:04:44,720
agnostic...

7374
03:04:44,720 --> 03:04:45,680
activity...

7375
03:04:45,680 --> 03:04:45,860
and I...

7376
03:04:45,860 --> 03:04:46,920
do it for people...

7377
03:04:46,920 --> 03:04:48,580
who are C-level executives...

7378
03:04:48,580 --> 03:04:49,540
people whose jobs...

7379
03:04:49,540 --> 03:04:50,200
under threat...

7380
03:04:50,200 --> 03:04:51,620
in the public or private sector...

7381
03:04:51,620 --> 03:04:53,540
I could do it for NGOs...

7382
03:04:53,540 --> 03:04:54,140
and it is a...

7383
03:04:54,140 --> 03:04:54,840
do it for anyone...

7384
03:04:54,840 --> 03:04:55,680
task of...

7385
03:04:55,680 --> 03:04:56,800
can you...

7386
03:04:56,800 --> 03:04:57,140
can you...

7387
03:04:57,140 --> 03:04:58,200
and I teach people...

7388
03:04:58,200 --> 03:04:59,500
about body language...

7389
03:04:59,500 --> 03:05:00,480
I treat them...

7390
03:05:00,480 --> 03:05:01,120
I teach them...

7391
03:05:01,120 --> 03:05:02,120
about breathing...

7392
03:05:02,120 --> 03:05:03,340
I teach them about...

7393
03:05:03,340 --> 03:05:03,980
you know...

7394
03:05:03,980 --> 03:05:04,920
phrases...

7395
03:05:04,920 --> 03:05:05,660
and so on...

7396
03:05:05,660 --> 03:05:06,000
so...

7397
03:05:06,000 --> 03:05:07,060
I regard that...

7398
03:05:07,060 --> 03:05:09,260
as a mechanical exercise...

7399
03:05:09,260 --> 03:05:10,600
and I don't think...

7400
03:05:10,600 --> 03:05:11,760
it conflicts...

7401
03:05:11,760 --> 03:05:13,380
with what I think...

7402
03:05:13,380 --> 03:05:14,760
or what I say...

7403
03:05:15,760 --> 03:05:16,680
can we move on...

7404
03:05:16,680 --> 03:05:17,580
to the newscast...

7405
03:05:17,580 --> 03:05:18,440
podcast...

7406
03:05:18,440 --> 03:05:19,360
yes...

7407
03:05:19,360 --> 03:05:20,060
newscast...

7408
03:05:20,060 --> 03:05:21,280
smear to be Jesus...

7409
03:05:21,280 --> 03:05:22,020
yeah...

7410
03:05:22,020 --> 03:05:23,000
Ivan...

7411
03:05:23,000 --> 03:05:24,000
I feel...

7412
03:05:24,000 --> 03:05:25,100
smear to be Jesus...

7413
03:05:25,100 --> 03:05:26,160
that was absolutely...

7414
03:05:26,160 --> 03:05:27,100
disgusting...

7415
03:05:27,100 --> 03:05:27,640
oh come on...

7416
03:05:27,640 --> 03:05:28,620
and I feel it was...

7417
03:05:28,620 --> 03:05:29,560
totally...

7418
03:05:29,560 --> 03:05:30,160
disrespectful...

7419
03:05:30,160 --> 03:05:32,440
the moral high ground...

7420
03:05:32,440 --> 03:05:33,080
is just...

7421
03:05:33,080 --> 03:05:34,340
nauseating here...

7422
03:05:34,340 --> 03:05:35,580
the presidential...

7423
03:05:35,580 --> 03:05:36,360
process...

7424
03:05:36,360 --> 03:05:37,080
I know...

7425
03:05:37,080 --> 03:05:37,660
you look at me...

7426
03:05:37,660 --> 03:05:38,280
I know...

7427
03:05:38,280 --> 03:05:39,000
yeah...

7428
03:05:39,000 --> 03:05:39,940
what was that...

7429
03:05:39,940 --> 03:05:40,840
what was that little...

7430
03:05:40,840 --> 03:05:41,840
comment there...

7431
03:05:41,840 --> 03:05:42,580
kind of...

7432
03:05:42,580 --> 03:05:44,300
Ivan will you look at me here...

7433
03:05:44,300 --> 03:05:45,080
I think I...

7434
03:05:45,080 --> 03:05:46,240
somebody just said...

7435
03:05:46,240 --> 03:05:47,400
Ivan will you look at me...

7436
03:05:47,400 --> 03:05:48,660
will you look at this here...

7437
03:05:48,660 --> 03:05:49,420
and Ivan went...

7438
03:05:49,420 --> 03:05:50,860
yeah...

7439
03:05:50,860 --> 03:05:52,440
need to hear that back...

7440
03:05:52,440 --> 03:05:53,200
apologies for...

7441
03:05:53,200 --> 03:05:55,200
rewinding so much here...

7442
03:05:55,200 --> 03:05:56,360
yeah...

7443
03:05:56,360 --> 03:05:57,320
this is another thing...

7444
03:05:57,320 --> 03:05:57,640
like the...

7445
03:05:57,640 --> 03:05:58,540
the water jug...

7446
03:05:58,540 --> 03:06:00,200
this is a water jug moment...

7447
03:06:00,200 --> 03:06:02,420
and there's some great...

7448
03:06:02,420 --> 03:06:03,200
stills from this...

7449
03:06:04,020 --> 03:06:05,200
might have to go back...

7450
03:06:05,200 --> 03:06:05,200
and...

7451
03:06:05,200 --> 03:06:06,360
look...

7452
03:06:06,360 --> 03:06:07,200
get the stills...

7453
03:06:08,200 --> 03:06:09,320
because they're...

7454
03:06:09,320 --> 03:06:11,200
they're quality pieces...

7455
03:06:11,200 --> 03:06:12,280
you know...

7456
03:06:12,280 --> 03:06:13,200
Renaissance-esque...

7457
03:06:15,280 --> 03:06:17,200
...people about body language...

7458
03:06:17,200 --> 03:06:18,500
I treat them...

7459
03:06:18,500 --> 03:06:19,100
I teach them...

7460
03:06:19,100 --> 03:06:20,040
about breathing...

7461
03:06:20,040 --> 03:06:21,340
I teach them about...

7462
03:06:21,340 --> 03:06:21,960
you know...

7463
03:06:21,960 --> 03:06:22,900
phrases...

7464
03:06:22,900 --> 03:06:23,580
and so on...

7465
03:06:23,580 --> 03:06:24,000
so...

7466
03:06:24,000 --> 03:06:24,140
I...

7467
03:06:24,140 --> 03:06:25,040
I regard that...

7468
03:06:25,040 --> 03:06:27,160
as a mechanical exercise...

7469
03:06:27,160 --> 03:06:28,580
and I don't think...

7470
03:06:28,580 --> 03:06:28,820
it...

7471
03:06:28,820 --> 03:06:29,720
it conflicts...

7472
03:06:29,720 --> 03:06:31,360
with what I think...

7473
03:06:31,360 --> 03:06:31,880
eh...

7474
03:06:31,880 --> 03:06:34,080
or what I say...

7475
03:06:34,080 --> 03:06:35,500
Listen after the moral...

7476
03:06:35,500 --> 03:06:36,480
high ground...

7477
03:06:36,480 --> 03:06:36,780
eh...

7478
03:06:36,780 --> 03:06:37,200
take...

7479
03:06:37,200 --> 03:06:38,020
that your man makes...

7480
03:06:38,020 --> 03:06:39,780
somebody says something like...

7481
03:06:39,780 --> 03:06:41,420
Ivan will you look here...

7482
03:06:41,420 --> 03:06:42,920
Can we move on to the newscast...

7483
03:06:42,920 --> 03:06:43,760
podcast...

7484
03:06:43,760 --> 03:06:45,060
Yes...

7485
03:06:45,060 --> 03:06:46,560
the smear to be Jesus...

7486
03:06:46,560 --> 03:06:47,360
Yeah...

7487
03:06:47,360 --> 03:06:48,300
Ivan...

7488
03:06:48,300 --> 03:06:49,260
I feel...

7489
03:06:49,260 --> 03:06:52,260
that was absolutely disgusting...

7490
03:06:52,260 --> 03:06:54,260
and I feel it was totally...

7491
03:06:54,260 --> 03:06:55,260
disrespectful...

7492
03:06:55,260 --> 03:06:58,260
the presidential process...

7493
03:06:58,260 --> 03:07:00,860
I think that's Sheehan...

7494
03:07:00,860 --> 03:07:02,960
in the background there...

7495
03:07:02,960 --> 03:07:03,360
eh...

7496
03:07:03,360 --> 03:07:04,760
getting ready to dispatch...

7497
03:07:04,760 --> 03:07:05,280
another...

7498
03:07:05,280 --> 03:07:06,460
situation...

7499
03:07:06,460 --> 03:07:08,460
... and...

7500
03:07:08,460 --> 03:07:09,660
yeah...

7501
03:07:09,660 --> 03:07:10,960
I feel...

7502
03:07:10,960 --> 03:07:11,360
you're...

7503
03:07:11,360 --> 03:07:12,460
you have a position here...

7504
03:07:12,460 --> 03:07:13,460
this evening...

7505
03:07:13,460 --> 03:07:14,760
to make...

7506
03:07:14,760 --> 03:07:15,780
an official...

7507
03:07:15,780 --> 03:07:16,360
apology...

7508
03:07:17,360 --> 03:07:19,360
to each of those candidates...

7509
03:07:20,640 --> 03:07:20,960
huh...

7510
03:07:20,960 --> 03:07:22,060
yeah...

7511
03:07:22,060 --> 03:07:23,160
you can see...

7512
03:07:23,160 --> 03:07:24,040
uh...

7513
03:07:24,040 --> 03:07:24,860
Sheehan...

7514
03:07:24,860 --> 03:07:25,580
laughing...

7515
03:07:25,580 --> 03:07:26,440
at that...

7516
03:07:26,440 --> 03:07:27,080
you just keep...

7517
03:07:27,080 --> 03:07:28,760
you can see him just smiling...

7518
03:07:28,760 --> 03:07:30,360
at the idea that...

7519
03:07:30,360 --> 03:07:31,150
he would have to make an

7520
03:07:31,150 --> 03:07:31,860
apology...

7521
03:07:31,860 --> 03:07:34,660
probably anticipating that...

7522
03:07:34,660 --> 03:07:35,160
uh...

7523
03:07:35,160 --> 03:07:36,240
Ivan's gonna come back...

7524
03:07:36,240 --> 03:07:38,780
with something funny or...

7525
03:07:38,780 --> 03:07:39,420
he's just gonna...

7526
03:07:39,420 --> 03:07:40,140
not even funny...

7527
03:07:40,140 --> 03:07:40,760
it's just gonna be an

7528
03:07:40,760 --> 03:07:41,540
incredible...

7529
03:07:41,540 --> 03:07:42,580
Zurich Tip...

7530
03:07:42,580 --> 03:07:43,660
opposition...

7531
03:07:43,660 --> 03:07:45,140
to what your man has just said...

7532
03:07:45,140 --> 03:07:46,140
Magic Yates...

7533
03:07:46,140 --> 03:07:46,660
sponge...

7534
03:07:46,660 --> 03:07:47,660
thank you very much...

7535
03:07:47,660 --> 03:07:48,660
to make...

7536
03:07:48,660 --> 03:07:50,280
an official...

7537
03:07:50,280 --> 03:07:50,660
apology...

7538
03:07:51,920 --> 03:07:53,660
to each of those candidates...

7539
03:07:53,660 --> 03:07:54,660
uh...

7540
03:07:55,740 --> 03:07:56,160
sorry...

7541
03:07:56,160 --> 03:07:56,540
let me just...

7542
03:07:56,540 --> 03:07:57,660
continue...

7543
03:07:57,660 --> 03:07:58,540
Ivan...

7544
03:07:58,540 --> 03:07:59,660
you were a minister...

7545
03:08:00,180 --> 03:08:01,660
Fantastic stuff...

7546
03:08:01,660 --> 03:08:03,660
the exasperation of Ivan...

7547
03:08:03,660 --> 03:08:04,780
yeah...

7548
03:08:04,780 --> 03:08:04,960
yeah...

7549
03:08:04,960 --> 03:08:05,160
yeah...

7550
03:08:05,160 --> 03:08:05,660
continue...

7551
03:08:05,660 --> 03:08:06,360
yeah...

7552
03:08:06,360 --> 03:08:07,280
he knows...

7553
03:08:07,280 --> 03:08:07,660
that this is...

7554
03:08:07,660 --> 03:08:08,660
uh...

7555
03:08:08,660 --> 03:08:10,460
what would you...

7556
03:08:10,460 --> 03:08:11,660
what would you call this...

7557
03:08:11,660 --> 03:08:13,360
as I said before...

7558
03:08:13,360 --> 03:08:14,260
straw manning...

7559
03:08:14,260 --> 03:08:14,560
is it...

7560
03:08:14,560 --> 03:08:15,660
or...

7561
03:08:15,660 --> 03:08:16,660
I don't...

7562
03:08:16,660 --> 03:08:17,160
you look at...

7563
03:08:17,160 --> 03:08:19,160
I feel...

7564
03:08:19,160 --> 03:08:20,160
you're...

7565
03:08:20,160 --> 03:08:21,160
you have a position here...

7566
03:08:21,160 --> 03:08:22,160
this evening...

7567
03:08:22,160 --> 03:08:23,160
to make...

7568
03:08:23,160 --> 03:08:24,160
an official...

7569
03:08:24,160 --> 03:08:25,160
apology...

7570
03:08:25,160 --> 03:08:27,160
to each of those candidates...

7571
03:08:29,160 --> 03:08:30,160
uh...

7572
03:08:30,160 --> 03:08:30,160
sorry...

7573
03:08:30,160 --> 03:08:31,160
let me just...

7574
03:08:31,160 --> 03:08:32,160
continue...

7575
03:08:32,160 --> 03:08:33,160
Ivan...

7576
03:08:33,160 --> 03:08:34,160
you were a minister...

7577
03:08:34,160 --> 03:08:35,160
you...

7578
03:08:35,160 --> 03:08:36,160
you sat there...

7579
03:08:36,160 --> 03:08:37,160
as a minister...

7580
03:08:37,160 --> 03:08:38,160
you sat here...

7581
03:08:38,160 --> 03:08:39,160
as a TD...

7582
03:08:39,160 --> 03:08:40,160
you know...

7583
03:08:40,160 --> 03:08:41,160
exactly...

7584
03:08:41,160 --> 03:08:42,160
what...

7585
03:08:42,160 --> 03:08:43,160
every candidate...

7586
03:08:43,160 --> 03:08:44,160
went through...

7587
03:08:44,160 --> 03:08:45,160
Jim Galvin...

7588
03:08:45,160 --> 03:08:46,160
Catherine Connery...

7589
03:08:46,160 --> 03:08:48,160
Heather Humphreys...

7590
03:08:48,160 --> 03:08:49,280
what they put themselves

7591
03:08:49,280 --> 03:08:50,160
through...

7592
03:08:50,160 --> 03:08:52,160
so when they look...

7593
03:08:52,160 --> 03:08:54,160
at someone using the word...

7594
03:08:54,160 --> 03:08:55,160
smear...

7595
03:08:55,160 --> 03:08:56,160
the definition of smear...

7596
03:08:56,160 --> 03:08:58,160
purposely...

7597
03:08:58,160 --> 03:09:00,160
trying to damage...

7598
03:09:00,160 --> 03:09:01,160
someone's reputation...

7599
03:09:01,160 --> 03:09:03,160
by false...

7600
03:09:03,160 --> 03:09:04,160
accusations...

7601
03:09:04,160 --> 03:09:07,160
why...

7602
03:09:07,160 --> 03:09:08,160
why...

7603
03:09:08,160 --> 03:09:09,160
would somebody...

7604
03:09:09,160 --> 03:09:10,160
put themselves forward...

7605
03:09:10,160 --> 03:09:12,160
at political level...

7606
03:09:12,160 --> 03:09:14,160
if a commentator...

7607
03:09:14,160 --> 03:09:15,160
I have to admire...

7608
03:09:15,160 --> 03:09:15,160
your man's...

7609
03:09:15,160 --> 03:09:16,160
attack...

7610
03:09:16,160 --> 03:09:17,160
the way he's approaching it...

7611
03:09:17,160 --> 03:09:18,160
you know...

7612
03:09:18,160 --> 03:09:19,160
it's...

7613
03:09:19,160 --> 03:09:21,160
it's sort of like...

7614
03:09:21,160 --> 03:09:22,160
he wants...

7615
03:09:22,160 --> 03:09:24,160
Ivan to be able to...

7616
03:09:24,160 --> 03:09:25,160
just come back down to earth...

7617
03:09:25,160 --> 03:09:26,160
and...

7618
03:09:26,160 --> 03:09:26,160
and...

7619
03:09:26,160 --> 03:09:27,160
realise...

7620
03:09:27,160 --> 03:09:29,160
how bad...

7621
03:09:29,160 --> 03:09:30,160
he's done...

7622
03:09:30,160 --> 03:09:31,160
with the words...

7623
03:09:31,160 --> 03:09:32,160
he's used...

7624
03:09:32,160 --> 03:09:34,160
sort of a...

7625
03:09:34,160 --> 03:09:35,160
you know...

7626
03:09:35,160 --> 03:09:36,160
last gasp...

7627
03:09:36,160 --> 03:09:37,160
chance...

7628
03:09:37,160 --> 03:09:38,160
at...

7629
03:09:38,160 --> 03:09:38,160
at...

7630
03:09:38,160 --> 03:09:39,160
being able to appeal...

7631
03:09:39,160 --> 03:09:41,160
to Ivan's morality...

7632
03:09:42,160 --> 03:09:44,160
but it's not working...

7633
03:09:44,160 --> 03:09:45,160
unfortunately...

7634
03:09:45,160 --> 03:09:46,160
it's not working...

7635
03:09:46,160 --> 03:09:47,160
it's too late in the day...

7636
03:09:47,160 --> 03:09:48,160
for that tactic...

7637
03:09:49,160 --> 03:09:50,160
we've seen...

7638
03:09:50,160 --> 03:09:51,160
and heard enough...

7639
03:09:51,160 --> 03:09:52,160
and I think there is still...

7640
03:09:52,160 --> 03:09:54,160
another three contenders...

7641
03:09:54,160 --> 03:09:55,160
such as yourself...

7642
03:09:55,160 --> 03:09:57,160
is coming out...

7643
03:09:57,160 --> 03:09:58,160
with comments like that...

7644
03:09:59,160 --> 03:10:00,160
I'm asking you to please...

7645
03:10:00,160 --> 03:10:01,160
Brian...

7646
03:10:01,160 --> 03:10:01,160
Brian...

7647
03:10:01,160 --> 03:10:02,160
Brian...

7648
03:10:02,160 --> 03:10:02,160
no...

7649
03:10:02,160 --> 03:10:02,160
Brian...

7650
03:10:02,160 --> 03:10:03,160
I think you're being...

7651
03:10:03,160 --> 03:10:04,160
excessively precious...

7652
03:10:04,160 --> 03:10:05,160
I'm honest with you...

7653
03:10:05,160 --> 03:10:06,160
like...

7654
03:10:06,160 --> 03:10:06,160
I...

7655
03:10:06,160 --> 03:10:07,160
I have dealt with...

7656
03:10:07,160 --> 03:10:08,160
in politics...

7657
03:10:08,160 --> 03:10:09,160
over eight general elections...

7658
03:10:09,160 --> 03:10:10,160
politics is a...

7659
03:10:10,160 --> 03:10:11,160
knock-down...

7660
03:10:11,160 --> 03:10:12,160
drag-out business...

7661
03:10:12,160 --> 03:10:13,160
knock-down...

7662
03:10:13,160 --> 03:10:14,160
drag-out...

7663
03:10:14,160 --> 03:10:15,160
and...

7664
03:10:15,160 --> 03:10:15,160
and...

7665
03:10:15,160 --> 03:10:16,160
and...

7666
03:10:16,160 --> 03:10:16,160
power politics...

7667
03:10:16,160 --> 03:10:17,160
is about that...

7668
03:10:17,160 --> 03:10:18,160
and...

7669
03:10:18,160 --> 03:10:18,160
I've looked at...

7670
03:10:18,160 --> 03:10:19,160
boom...

7671
03:10:19,160 --> 03:10:20,160
you're being...

7672
03:10:20,160 --> 03:10:21,160
overly precious...

7673
03:10:21,160 --> 03:10:22,160
boom...

7674
03:10:22,160 --> 03:10:23,160
politics is...

7675
03:10:23,160 --> 03:10:24,160
knock-down...

7676
03:10:24,160 --> 03:10:24,160
drag-out...

7677
03:10:24,160 --> 03:10:25,160
boom...

7678
03:10:25,160 --> 03:10:26,160
it's just...

7679
03:10:26,160 --> 03:10:27,160
a quintessential...

7680
03:10:27,160 --> 03:10:28,160
Yeatsian...

7681
03:10:28,160 --> 03:10:29,160
combination...

7682
03:10:29,160 --> 03:10:31,160
in many jurisdictions...

7683
03:10:31,160 --> 03:10:32,160
I've been a student...

7684
03:10:32,160 --> 03:10:33,160
of politics...

7685
03:10:33,160 --> 03:10:34,160
and...

7686
03:10:34,160 --> 03:10:35,160
obviously...

7687
03:10:35,160 --> 03:10:37,160
I had no idea...

7688
03:10:37,160 --> 03:10:38,160
it would be...

7689
03:10:38,160 --> 03:10:39,160
replayed...

7690
03:10:39,160 --> 03:10:40,160
on national...

7691
03:10:40,160 --> 03:10:41,160
broadcasters...

7692
03:10:41,160 --> 03:10:42,160
out of context...

7693
03:10:42,160 --> 03:10:43,160
that...

7694
03:10:43,160 --> 03:10:44,160
Catherine Connolly...

7695
03:10:44,160 --> 03:10:45,160
herself...

7696
03:10:45,160 --> 03:10:46,160
for five days...

7697
03:10:46,160 --> 03:10:47,160
in a row...

7698
03:10:47,160 --> 03:10:48,160
would speak about...

7699
03:10:48,160 --> 03:10:48,160
the violence...

7700
03:10:48,160 --> 03:10:49,160
of the language...

7701
03:10:49,160 --> 03:10:50,160
and so on...

7702
03:10:50,160 --> 03:10:51,160
it was all out of context...

7703
03:10:51,160 --> 03:10:52,160
I wasn't literally...

7704
03:10:52,160 --> 03:10:53,160
advising anyone to do it...

7705
03:10:53,160 --> 03:10:54,160
I was saying...

7706
03:10:54,160 --> 03:10:55,160
this was an option...

7707
03:10:55,160 --> 03:10:56,160
so...

7708
03:10:56,160 --> 03:10:57,160
was the language...

7709
03:10:57,160 --> 03:10:58,160
too colourful...

7710
03:10:58,160 --> 03:10:59,160
perhaps so...

7711
03:10:59,160 --> 03:11:00,160
I think colourful...

7712
03:11:00,160 --> 03:11:01,160
is...

7713
03:11:01,160 --> 03:11:02,160
making a joke...

7714
03:11:02,160 --> 03:11:03,160
of what you actually said...

7715
03:11:03,160 --> 03:11:04,160
you were...

7716
03:11:04,160 --> 03:11:05,160
you were...

7717
03:11:05,160 --> 03:11:06,160
asking...

7718
03:11:06,160 --> 03:11:08,320
was but you're you're

7719
03:11:08,320 --> 03:11:10,030
personally attacking somebody

7720
03:11:10,030 --> 03:11:11,660
asking somebody else to attack

7721
03:11:11,660 --> 03:11:12,980
somebody that wasn't

7722
03:11:12,980 --> 03:11:15,830
a personal attack it was him

7723
03:11:15,830 --> 03:11:18,280
saying they should do this as

7724
03:11:18,280 --> 03:11:20,360
part of their strategy their

7725
03:11:20,360 --> 03:11:21,280
election

7726
03:11:21,280 --> 03:11:24,010
campaign electoral campaign and

7727
03:11:24,010 --> 03:11:26,440
the smearing itself could be a

7728
03:11:26,440 --> 03:11:28,780
variable range of of things

7729
03:11:28,780 --> 03:11:30,790
that they could do doesn't mean

7730
03:11:30,790 --> 03:11:32,580
to say that it's almost as if

7731
03:11:32,580 --> 03:11:34,640
he's saying that he launched a

7732
03:11:34,640 --> 03:11:37,370
personal attack himself do you

7733
03:11:37,370 --> 03:11:39,790
know or even even specified

7734
03:11:39,790 --> 03:11:43,300
what the attack should be crazy

7735
03:11:43,300 --> 03:11:44,100
talk

7736
03:11:44,100 --> 03:11:46,130
coming out of this ministry i

7737
03:11:46,130 --> 03:11:47,910
wasn't actually i wasn't

7738
03:11:47,910 --> 03:11:49,940
actually ivan drago no no i'm

7739
03:11:49,940 --> 03:11:50,940
sorry you're

7740
03:11:50,940 --> 03:11:52,770
taking a literal interpretation

7741
03:11:52,770 --> 03:11:54,200
about a general point i was

7742
03:11:54,200 --> 03:11:56,440
making which was negative campaigning

7743
03:11:56,440 --> 03:11:59,130
okay and i'm sorry that's the

7744
03:11:59,130 --> 03:12:01,710
way i intended it uh it was it

7745
03:12:01,710 --> 03:12:04,280
in a kind of in in a context of

7746
03:12:04,280 --> 03:12:04,540
a

7747
03:12:04,540 --> 03:12:06,710
kind of as i've described you

7748
03:12:06,710 --> 03:12:08,540
know more colloquial language

7749
03:12:08,540 --> 03:12:10,700
and it's different to broadcast

7750
03:12:10,700 --> 03:12:11,460
i wouldn't

7751
03:12:11,460 --> 03:12:13,600
say something like that bamboozled

7752
03:12:13,600 --> 03:12:15,540
the mainstream broadcast i mean

7753
03:12:15,540 --> 03:12:17,340
the nature of podcast is that

7754
03:12:17,340 --> 03:12:19,370
you've got uh it was it in a

7755
03:12:19,370 --> 03:12:21,350
kind of in in a context of a

7756
03:12:21,350 --> 03:12:23,670
kind of as i'm just your man's

7757
03:12:23,670 --> 03:12:25,100
face is the face

7758
03:12:25,100 --> 03:12:27,170
of someone who's being yeats

7759
03:12:27,170 --> 03:12:28,970
you know more colloquial

7760
03:12:28,970 --> 03:12:31,220
language and it's different to

7761
03:12:31,220 --> 03:12:33,000
broadcast i would look

7762
03:12:33,000 --> 03:12:34,540
that's what happens when you're

7763
03:12:34,540 --> 03:12:35,960
in the headlights and yeats is

7764
03:12:35,960 --> 03:12:37,280
just pummeling combo after

7765
03:12:37,280 --> 03:12:37,980
combo after

7766
03:12:37,980 --> 03:12:39,570
combo you've you've no you've

7767
03:12:39,570 --> 03:12:41,240
no recourse there's no there's

7768
03:12:41,240 --> 03:12:43,120
no plan or strategy it's like tyson

7769
03:12:43,120 --> 03:12:43,480
said

7770
03:12:43,480 --> 03:12:45,590
everyone has a plan until you

7771
03:12:45,590 --> 03:12:47,510
get punched in the face and

7772
03:12:47,510 --> 03:12:49,670
right now uh you know it's it's

7773
03:12:49,670 --> 03:12:51,300
it's it's it's

7774
03:12:51,300 --> 03:12:52,800
it's the fight night big fight

7775
03:12:52,800 --> 03:12:54,490
night and yeats is swinging you

7776
03:12:54,490 --> 03:12:56,790
can say something like that on

7777
03:12:56,790 --> 03:12:58,950
a mainstream broadcast i mean

7778
03:12:58,950 --> 03:13:00,650
the nature of podcast is that

7779
03:13:00,650 --> 03:13:01,920
you've got to people

7780
03:13:01,920 --> 03:13:03,540
people tune in to path to power

7781
03:13:03,540 --> 03:13:05,280
because there's something that

7782
03:13:05,280 --> 03:13:06,900
they won't hear on the claire

7783
03:13:06,900 --> 03:13:07,200
burner

7784
03:13:07,200 --> 03:13:08,690
Pat Kenny show. That's my

7785
03:13:08,690 --> 03:13:09,700
starting point.

7786
03:13:10,540 --> 03:13:11,500
The real alternative

7787
03:13:11,500 --> 03:13:13,500
media. News talk podcast.

7788
03:13:14,200 --> 03:13:15,440
Sorry, it was on a

7789
03:13:15,440 --> 03:13:16,340
calling it podcast.

7790
03:13:16,580 --> 03:13:17,700
But it wasn't on a news talk

7791
03:13:17,700 --> 03:13:18,540
programme.

7792
03:13:18,780 --> 03:13:20,460
No, podcasts are

7793
03:13:20,460 --> 03:13:22,520
separate in my opinion, yes.

7794
03:13:23,480 --> 03:13:24,790
And sorry, let's be clear. In

7795
03:13:24,790 --> 03:13:25,340
the general

7796
03:13:25,340 --> 03:13:27,340
election, I would have told

7797
03:13:27,340 --> 03:13:29,380
stories about negative campaigning,

7798
03:13:29,900 --> 03:13:30,340
smearing,

7799
03:13:30,860 --> 03:13:32,920
false rumours. I would have

7800
03:13:32,920 --> 03:13:33,380
told

7801
03:13:33,380 --> 03:13:35,130
anecdotes over the years about

7802
03:13:35,130 --> 03:13:35,460
that

7803
03:13:35,460 --> 03:13:37,080
in a quite regaling way.

7804
03:13:37,080 --> 03:13:38,920
And it didn't get anything like

7805
03:13:38,920 --> 03:13:39,080
the

7806
03:13:39,080 --> 03:13:40,500
attention. And the reason it

7807
03:13:40,500 --> 03:13:41,020
didn't was

7808
03:13:41,020 --> 03:13:42,380
the Connolly campaign

7809
03:13:42,380 --> 03:13:43,160
deliberately

7810
03:13:43,160 --> 03:13:45,100
manipulated that this was

7811
03:13:45,100 --> 03:13:46,790
real. This was me advising Fine

7812
03:13:46,790 --> 03:13:47,080
Gael.

7813
03:13:47,260 --> 03:13:48,720
That it was an actual memo. It's

7814
03:13:48,720 --> 03:13:49,400
all nonsense.

7815
03:13:49,860 --> 03:13:51,180
But how can you say that

7816
03:13:51,180 --> 03:13:52,700
when you're literally asking

7817
03:13:52,700 --> 03:13:53,100
people

7818
03:13:53,100 --> 03:13:55,180
to do false allegations about

7819
03:13:55,180 --> 03:13:56,490
somebody? That's what smearing

7820
03:13:56,490 --> 03:13:56,760
is.

7821
03:13:56,980 --> 03:13:57,280
No, no.

7822
03:13:57,560 --> 03:13:59,860
I don't think it is.

7823
03:14:00,680 --> 03:14:02,390
You can smear your opponent

7824
03:14:02,390 --> 03:14:02,640
with

7825
03:14:02,640 --> 03:14:04,170
the truth. That generally is

7826
03:14:04,170 --> 03:14:04,980
how it works.

7827
03:14:06,180 --> 03:14:07,200
if it's false.

7828
03:14:07,340 --> 03:14:08,330
He never went out there and

7829
03:14:08,330 --> 03:14:09,120
said, you know,

7830
03:14:09,520 --> 03:14:11,240
you have to actually make some

7831
03:14:11,240 --> 03:14:11,840
shit up.

7832
03:14:12,260 --> 03:14:13,760
And then smear with that, you

7833
03:14:13,760 --> 03:14:14,200
know.

7834
03:14:16,200 --> 03:14:17,720
Ray smears survival.

7835
03:14:18,260 --> 03:14:19,060
Do you not think you were

7836
03:14:19,060 --> 03:14:20,160
actually pouring

7837
03:14:20,160 --> 03:14:21,280
fuel?

7838
03:14:21,620 --> 03:14:22,020
No, sorry.

7839
03:14:22,260 --> 03:14:22,440
Sorry.

7840
03:14:22,660 --> 03:14:23,980
Can I finish out, please?

7841
03:14:24,020 --> 03:14:24,500
Yes, yes.

7842
03:14:24,820 --> 03:14:26,000
Can you not say that?

7843
03:14:26,060 --> 03:14:26,620
Losing it.

7844
03:14:26,820 --> 03:14:27,340
Losing it.

7845
03:14:27,840 --> 03:14:28,780
On the fire

7846
03:14:28,780 --> 03:14:29,780
fire.

7847
03:14:29,780 --> 03:14:32,540
Of people on social media.

7848
03:14:32,720 --> 03:14:34,160
You were stoking the fire.

7849
03:14:34,560 --> 03:14:36,040
You were encouraging a reaction

7850
03:14:36,040 --> 03:14:37,100
from them.

7851
03:14:37,740 --> 03:14:39,180
By using language like that.

7852
03:14:39,540 --> 03:14:41,610
Well, if you look at any toxic

7853
03:14:41,610 --> 03:14:43,370
social media, they don't need

7854
03:14:43,370 --> 03:14:44,400
me to stoke anything.

7855
03:14:44,860 --> 03:14:45,480
In the reality.

7856
03:14:45,800 --> 03:14:47,000
You're encouraging it, though.

7857
03:14:47,080 --> 03:14:48,000
You're bringing it on.

7858
03:14:48,080 --> 03:14:48,220
No, sorry.

7859
03:14:48,820 --> 03:14:50,220
If Ivan Yates can say it's...

7860
03:14:50,220 --> 03:14:52,030
No, I do want to say, Chairman,

7861
03:14:52,030 --> 03:14:53,820
I do regret the impact that

7862
03:14:53,820 --> 03:14:55,510
phrase had on the whole

7863
03:14:55,510 --> 03:14:56,260
campaign.

7864
03:14:56,940 --> 03:14:57,710
And put it like this, I would

7865
03:14:57,710 --> 03:14:58,920
much rather that hadn't

7866
03:14:58,920 --> 03:14:59,680
happened.

7867
03:15:00,040 --> 03:15:01,080
But I'm saying the reason it

7868
03:15:01,080 --> 03:15:02,680
happened was it was weaponised

7869
03:15:02,680 --> 03:15:04,280
by the Connolly campaign.

7870
03:15:04,440 --> 03:15:04,900
And are you apologising?

7871
03:15:04,900 --> 03:15:05,620
Which I can't...

7872
03:15:05,620 --> 03:15:06,220
Are you apologising?

7873
03:15:06,320 --> 03:15:06,800
No, no.

7874
03:15:06,860 --> 03:15:08,520
No, I'm not apologising for it.

7875
03:15:09,160 --> 03:15:10,240
In so far as that, what I'm

7876
03:15:10,240 --> 03:15:11,100
saying is this.

7877
03:15:11,420 --> 03:15:12,870
I'm sorry that it happened and

7878
03:15:12,870 --> 03:15:14,420
the way it was weaponised.

7879
03:15:14,620 --> 03:15:16,260
But what I am saying is...

7880
03:15:16,260 --> 03:15:17,560
And I don't know how important

7881
03:15:17,560 --> 03:15:18,760
it was in the overall scheme of

7882
03:15:18,760 --> 03:15:19,260
things.

7883
03:15:19,560 --> 03:15:20,670
Given the result, it was going

7884
03:15:20,670 --> 03:15:21,830
to be a clear winner, in my

7885
03:15:21,830 --> 03:15:22,720
view, anyway.

7886
03:15:23,480 --> 03:15:24,740
And at that time, that first

7887
03:15:24,740 --> 03:15:26,670
week of October, after the

7888
03:15:26,670 --> 03:15:28,850
Gavin implosion, in my view,

7889
03:15:28,850 --> 03:15:30,300
that was...

7890
03:15:30,300 --> 03:15:30,440
Yeats.

7891
03:15:31,280 --> 03:15:32,200
You've been Yeats.

7892
03:15:32,340 --> 03:15:33,980
Thank you very much, Master Yeats.

7893
03:15:34,280 --> 03:15:35,000
That's not a question.

7894
03:15:35,220 --> 03:15:35,360
Okay.

7895
03:15:35,540 --> 03:15:35,980
Thank you.

7896
03:15:36,240 --> 03:15:36,540
Give me.

7897
03:15:36,640 --> 03:15:36,880
Thank you.

7898
03:15:36,960 --> 03:15:37,680
Ivan played...

7899
03:15:37,680 --> 03:15:38,240
I'm not going to care.

7900
03:15:38,240 --> 03:15:38,260
I'm not going to care.

7901
03:15:38,700 --> 03:15:39,900
Dishing out Ivan Grades.

7902
03:15:40,020 --> 03:15:41,160
Just to build on what Deputy

7903
03:15:41,160 --> 03:15:42,630
Brennan has said, like, and it

7904
03:15:42,630 --> 03:15:44,020
would be no surprise to you,

7905
03:15:44,080 --> 03:15:45,040
but I don't think he's being at

7906
03:15:45,040 --> 03:15:45,660
all precious.

7907
03:15:46,140 --> 03:15:47,260
I think a lot of people during

7908
03:15:47,260 --> 03:15:48,690
that election were truly

7909
03:15:48,690 --> 03:15:50,230
shocked with the use of that

7910
03:15:50,230 --> 03:15:51,080
language.

7911
03:15:51,500 --> 03:15:52,140
Give me a break.

7912
03:15:52,140 --> 03:15:52,320
In whatever context.

7913
03:15:52,420 --> 03:15:53,170
You can say that it was taken

7914
03:15:53,170 --> 03:15:53,820
out of context.

7915
03:15:53,960 --> 03:15:54,540
You can say that it was

7916
03:15:54,540 --> 03:15:55,120
theoretical.

7917
03:15:55,680 --> 03:15:56,630
But the fact that a person of

7918
03:15:56,630 --> 03:15:58,280
influence, which is what you

7919
03:15:58,280 --> 03:15:59,960
are, and, you know, you may

7920
03:15:59,960 --> 03:16:00,480
display

7921
03:16:00,480 --> 03:16:01,820
modesty around people saying

7922
03:16:01,820 --> 03:16:03,380
that, as you have done earlier.

7923
03:16:03,540 --> 03:16:04,860
But that is the reality.

7924
03:16:05,020 --> 03:16:05,900
You have a platform.

7925
03:16:06,420 --> 03:16:07,610
And so to use a phrase like

7926
03:16:07,610 --> 03:16:09,010
that was shocking for many,

7927
03:16:09,010 --> 03:16:09,840
many people.

7928
03:16:09,840 --> 03:16:11,060
And I think I just wanted to

7929
03:16:11,060 --> 03:16:12,450
say that, that I think Deputy

7930
03:16:12,450 --> 03:16:13,940
Brennan is right to call it out.

7931
03:16:13,940 --> 03:16:15,620
And I have to say that comment

7932
03:16:15,620 --> 03:16:17,020
in connection then with the

7933
03:16:17,020 --> 03:16:18,720
revelations that then came out

7934
03:16:18,720 --> 03:16:20,230
around your connection to a

7935
03:16:20,230 --> 03:16:22,020
candidate within the race.

7936
03:16:22,360 --> 03:16:23,210
Like, I can tell you

7937
03:16:23,210 --> 03:16:25,110
objectively that as a candidate

7938
03:16:25,110 --> 03:16:26,930
in two separate elections last

7939
03:16:26,930 --> 03:16:28,410
year, who was pretty much

7940
03:16:28,410 --> 03:16:29,960
dismissed by you as a candidate

7941
03:16:29,960 --> 03:16:31,400
in both elections, made me

7942
03:16:31,400 --> 03:16:32,680
question, were there any

7943
03:16:32,680 --> 03:16:34,190
candidates in either of those

7944
03:16:34,190 --> 03:16:35,870
races who were paying Mr. Yates

7945
03:16:35,870 --> 03:16:37,440
during that election for media

7946
03:16:37,440 --> 03:16:38,320
training?

7947
03:16:38,320 --> 03:16:47,840
So I'm just saying for you.

7948
03:16:47,840 --> 03:16:50,080
but we don't if we don't have

7949
03:16:50,080 --> 03:16:50,840
the information.

7950
03:16:51,440 --> 03:16:52,580
And these revelations that have

7951
03:16:52,580 --> 03:16:53,020
come out

7952
03:16:53,020 --> 03:16:56,000
have certainly prompted me to

7953
03:16:56,000 --> 03:16:56,480
question

7954
03:16:56,480 --> 03:16:57,970
your objectivity and your

7955
03:16:57,970 --> 03:16:59,060
impartiality.

7956
03:16:59,460 --> 03:17:00,680
So just for feedback in terms

7957
03:17:00,680 --> 03:17:02,400
of what you've said so far.

7958
03:17:02,720 --> 03:17:04,860
Her style is good.

7959
03:17:05,060 --> 03:17:05,720
I'll give her that.

7960
03:17:06,180 --> 03:17:08,240
And what would you say?

7961
03:17:08,360 --> 03:17:10,820
The ambience has taken a bit of

7962
03:17:10,820 --> 03:17:13,780
a chilled turn there with that.

7963
03:17:13,780 --> 03:17:16,180
But the meat and potatoes of

7964
03:17:16,180 --> 03:17:18,840
what she's actually getting at,

7965
03:17:19,140 --> 03:17:22,020
it's not worth anything.

7966
03:17:22,180 --> 03:17:22,860
It's for the birds.

7967
03:17:23,700 --> 03:17:24,800
And she's only trying to

7968
03:17:24,800 --> 03:17:26,540
develop and build on

7969
03:17:26,540 --> 03:17:28,580
the previous contenders'

7970
03:17:28,580 --> 03:17:29,820
accusations,

7971
03:17:31,220 --> 03:17:33,120
which have already been eloquently

7972
03:17:33,120 --> 03:17:35,240
dismissed by Yeats.

7973
03:17:36,140 --> 03:17:39,400
So, I mean, fair dues to her.

7974
03:17:39,400 --> 03:17:41,660
But, I mean, you need to have...

7975
03:17:41,660 --> 03:17:43,500
You should have had another

7976
03:17:43,500 --> 03:17:45,780
thing to take to him after that.

7977
03:17:45,920 --> 03:17:47,210
We don't want to replay the

7978
03:17:47,210 --> 03:17:47,880
hits here,

7979
03:17:48,220 --> 03:17:49,190
which is all that's going to

7980
03:17:49,190 --> 03:17:50,140
happen in this.

7981
03:17:50,200 --> 03:17:51,460
Sure, but just briefly, really.

7982
03:17:51,580 --> 03:17:52,750
I just want to make a comment

7983
03:17:52,750 --> 03:17:54,000
about Dublin Rat Down.

7984
03:17:54,360 --> 03:17:55,790
I actually did an event in your

7985
03:17:55,790 --> 03:17:56,840
constituency,

7986
03:17:57,080 --> 03:17:58,200
the Sandiford Business District.

7987
03:17:58,640 --> 03:17:59,780
I chaired a debate on that.

7988
03:18:00,040 --> 03:18:00,920
And I was actually taken with

7989
03:18:00,920 --> 03:18:02,140
your performance on that.

7990
03:18:02,180 --> 03:18:03,200
And I think I alluded to that

7991
03:18:03,200 --> 03:18:03,900
on the podcast,

7992
03:18:04,320 --> 03:18:05,380
that you were a...

7993
03:18:05,380 --> 03:18:06,240
You described me as a worthy

7994
03:18:06,240 --> 03:18:06,760
candidate.

7995
03:18:06,760 --> 03:18:07,740
And you spent more time talking

7996
03:18:07,740 --> 03:18:08,440
about the candidate

7997
03:18:08,440 --> 03:18:09,320
who didn't show up to that

7998
03:18:09,320 --> 03:18:09,720
event.

7999
03:18:09,720 --> 03:18:10,720
But that's the event on in your

8000
03:18:10,720 --> 03:18:11,580
podcast afterwards.

8001
03:18:11,600 --> 03:18:12,740
Yes, that was an independent...

8002
03:18:12,740 --> 03:18:14,860
But I did not train Jay Brennan.

8003
03:18:14,860 --> 03:18:15,190
Let's not go to every

8004
03:18:15,190 --> 03:18:15,500
constituency.

8005
03:18:15,500 --> 03:18:17,260
I did not train Jay Brennan.

8006
03:18:17,480 --> 03:18:18,620
I had no connection with any of

8007
03:18:18,620 --> 03:18:19,800
the other candidates.

8008
03:18:19,820 --> 03:18:20,120
No problem.

8009
03:18:20,300 --> 03:18:21,490
I'm just telling you, but this

8010
03:18:21,490 --> 03:18:22,140
is my point,

8011
03:18:22,340 --> 03:18:24,390
is that I get to judge objectivity

8012
03:18:24,390 --> 03:18:25,660
and impartiality

8013
03:18:25,660 --> 03:18:27,300
as a listener, as a candidate.

8014
03:18:27,360 --> 03:18:27,740
That's a fair point.

8015
03:18:27,880 --> 03:18:29,200
And this is the point, is that

8016
03:18:29,200 --> 03:18:30,340
you can't do that for me

8017
03:18:30,340 --> 03:18:31,570
just because you think you can

8018
03:18:31,570 --> 03:18:32,740
separate it in your head.

8019
03:18:32,960 --> 03:18:34,260
That's what made me question it.

8020
03:18:34,760 --> 03:18:36,340
Anyway, to some more direct

8021
03:18:36,340 --> 03:18:37,120
questions.

8022
03:18:37,440 --> 03:18:38,770
Has any newspaper or radio

8023
03:18:38,770 --> 03:18:40,200
station ever asked you

8024
03:18:40,200 --> 03:18:41,600
for a list of clients to ensure

8025
03:18:41,600 --> 03:18:42,280
that you're engaging

8026
03:18:42,280 --> 03:18:43,280
with adequate independence?

8027
03:18:44,280 --> 03:18:44,520
Sorry?

8028
03:18:44,820 --> 03:18:47,050
Has any radio station or

8029
03:18:47,050 --> 03:18:49,760
newspaper ever asked you

8030
03:18:49,760 --> 03:18:50,860
for a list of clients?

8031
03:18:51,520 --> 03:18:52,300
Not that I'm aware of.

8032
03:18:52,340 --> 03:18:53,060
Okay, no problem.

8033
03:18:53,460 --> 03:18:54,130
And how many media

8034
03:18:54,130 --> 03:18:55,760
organisations...

8035
03:18:56,520 --> 03:18:57,760
Not that you're aware of, or...

8036
03:18:58,280 --> 03:18:59,660
No, not to my knowledge.

8037
03:18:59,800 --> 03:19:00,200
Not to my knowledge.

8038
03:19:00,380 --> 03:19:01,440
No, is the answer, yeah.

8039
03:19:01,960 --> 03:19:03,880
How many media organisations,

8040
03:19:04,320 --> 03:19:06,160
print and broadcast, say, over

8041
03:19:06,160 --> 03:19:07,120
the last 12 months,

8042
03:19:07,260 --> 03:19:07,700
have you...

8043
03:19:07,700 --> 03:19:08,440
Yeah, I mean, look,

8044
03:19:09,200 --> 03:19:11,560
he probably should have been

8045
03:19:11,560 --> 03:19:13,100
asked, you know.

8046
03:19:13,940 --> 03:19:15,240
So, I mean, this is, as I said

8047
03:19:15,240 --> 03:19:15,900
to you,

8048
03:19:16,260 --> 03:19:17,240
even though she was only trying

8049
03:19:17,240 --> 03:19:17,740
to develop

8050
03:19:17,740 --> 03:19:18,720
on your man's point,

8051
03:19:19,540 --> 03:19:21,630
I thought that, or I do think

8052
03:19:21,630 --> 03:19:22,340
that,

8053
03:19:22,860 --> 03:19:25,790
her demeanour is maybe making

8054
03:19:25,790 --> 03:19:26,320
Ivan

8055
03:19:26,320 --> 03:19:27,780
a little bit uncomfortable here.

8056
03:19:28,640 --> 03:19:29,770
And he's had to quietly bat

8057
03:19:29,770 --> 03:19:31,160
away that last one

8058
03:19:31,160 --> 03:19:32,920
without any elaboration.

8059
03:19:33,080 --> 03:19:34,860
He didn't have any extra...

8060
03:19:36,220 --> 03:19:39,150
sauce or Yates dust to sprinkle

8061
03:19:39,150 --> 03:19:39,960
on that.

8062
03:19:40,000 --> 03:19:40,860
It was just a kind of muted,

8063
03:19:41,760 --> 03:19:43,080
a kind of quieted no.

8064
03:19:43,820 --> 03:19:44,600
So interesting to see how this

8065
03:19:44,600 --> 03:19:45,760
one is developing.

8066
03:19:45,860 --> 03:19:46,860
I actually thought he was...

8067
03:19:47,860 --> 03:19:49,750
He had won and done 10 minutes

8068
03:19:49,750 --> 03:19:50,420
ago.

8069
03:19:50,820 --> 03:19:51,520
...for your services,

8070
03:19:51,640 --> 03:19:52,490
and I'm talking about media

8071
03:19:52,490 --> 03:19:53,100
organisations

8072
03:19:53,100 --> 03:19:54,550
and then their subsidiary

8073
03:19:54,550 --> 03:19:56,040
organisations as well.

8074
03:19:56,100 --> 03:19:57,080
Would you have a rough estimate?

8075
03:19:58,320 --> 03:19:59,860
Don't talk about my clients.

8076
03:20:00,980 --> 03:20:02,140
So you won't even tell me

8077
03:20:02,140 --> 03:20:03,160
how many organisations you've

8078
03:20:03,160 --> 03:20:03,620
invoiced?

8079
03:20:04,160 --> 03:20:04,480
No.

8080
03:20:04,800 --> 03:20:05,080
Okay.

8081
03:20:06,040 --> 03:20:06,580
Why should I?

8082
03:20:07,500 --> 03:20:08,780
Because I do different services,

8083
03:20:08,780 --> 03:20:09,500
I do events.

8084
03:20:09,740 --> 03:20:10,540
I'm trying to...

8085
03:20:10,540 --> 03:20:11,860
I'm trying to get...

8086
03:20:11,860 --> 03:20:12,820
Ivan's ruffled.

8087
03:20:13,680 --> 03:20:14,840
...based on the fact that we're

8088
03:20:14,840 --> 03:20:15,780
not to delve into this,

8089
03:20:15,840 --> 03:20:16,480
specific incident.

8090
03:20:16,540 --> 03:20:17,500
I'm trying to get a picture of

8091
03:20:17,500 --> 03:20:18,140
the broader.

8092
03:20:18,560 --> 03:20:20,090
So I guess the same question

8093
03:20:20,090 --> 03:20:21,240
will be here.

8094
03:20:21,300 --> 03:20:22,320
How many political parties have

8095
03:20:22,320 --> 03:20:22,920
you invoiced?

8096
03:20:24,400 --> 03:20:25,040
I'm really not going to get

8097
03:20:25,040 --> 03:20:26,160
into that.

8098
03:20:26,360 --> 03:20:26,720
Lovely.

8099
03:20:27,620 --> 03:20:28,540
Okay, that's fine.

8100
03:20:28,700 --> 03:20:29,360
So I think...

8101
03:20:29,360 --> 03:20:30,710
Oh yeah, you can see from his

8102
03:20:30,710 --> 03:20:31,060
face,

8103
03:20:31,180 --> 03:20:32,640
it's uncomfortable for him.

8104
03:20:32,840 --> 03:20:33,620
These questions are

8105
03:20:33,620 --> 03:20:34,580
uncomfortable.

8106
03:20:35,400 --> 03:20:37,130
And we saw the face of someone

8107
03:20:37,130 --> 03:20:38,540
being Yates.

8108
03:20:38,540 --> 03:20:41,100
And now we're actually seeing Yates

8109
03:20:41,100 --> 03:20:42,940
being slightly Yates himself

8110
03:20:42,940 --> 03:20:45,340
in a kind of Yates-ception.

8111
03:20:45,820 --> 03:20:46,040
here.

8112
03:20:46,100 --> 03:20:47,120
How many political parties have

8113
03:20:47,120 --> 03:20:47,700
you invoiced?

8114
03:20:48,980 --> 03:20:49,830
I'm really not going to get

8115
03:20:49,830 --> 03:20:50,960
into that.

8116
03:20:51,080 --> 03:20:51,120
Okay.

8117
03:20:51,120 --> 03:20:51,660
No problem.

8118
03:20:52,000 --> 03:20:52,260
Hold on.

8119
03:20:52,420 --> 03:20:53,400
Look, look, look, look.

8120
03:20:53,640 --> 03:20:54,120
That's...

8121
03:20:54,120 --> 03:20:55,320
That's one for the...

8122
03:20:55,320 --> 03:20:57,900
For the Renaissance stills.

8123
03:20:58,760 --> 03:21:00,260
That's him on the back foot.

8124
03:21:00,420 --> 03:21:01,080
But still,

8125
03:21:01,620 --> 03:21:03,000
arms planted out,

8126
03:21:03,420 --> 03:21:03,960
down,

8127
03:21:04,320 --> 03:21:04,720
forward,

8128
03:21:05,000 --> 03:21:05,660
strong,

8129
03:21:05,900 --> 03:21:06,220
two

8130
03:21:06,220 --> 03:21:08,640
very strong columns,

8131
03:21:09,140 --> 03:21:09,520
pillars,

8132
03:21:10,240 --> 03:21:12,260
that build up the Yates

8133
03:21:12,260 --> 03:21:14,620
tower.

8134
03:21:14,620 --> 03:21:18,420
He's not going to go down.

8135
03:21:18,540 --> 03:21:20,110
It's not a building that's

8136
03:21:20,110 --> 03:21:21,980
going to be easily knocked down

8137
03:21:21,980 --> 03:21:22,680
to size.

8138
03:21:23,800 --> 03:21:24,920
But this one,

8139
03:21:24,980 --> 03:21:26,480
she does have a bit of a bulldozer.

8140
03:21:26,620 --> 03:21:28,140
She has the wrecking ball.

8141
03:21:28,680 --> 03:21:29,240
But it's just,

8142
03:21:29,320 --> 03:21:30,530
the wrecking ball's bouncing

8143
03:21:30,530 --> 03:21:30,880
off him,

8144
03:21:30,940 --> 03:21:31,460
like a fucking,

8145
03:21:31,620 --> 03:21:32,710
one of those balls that you get

8146
03:21:32,710 --> 03:21:33,380
in a fucking,

8147
03:21:34,020 --> 03:21:34,800
a ball pit.

8148
03:21:35,420 --> 03:21:36,060
Just like,

8149
03:21:36,220 --> 03:21:37,220
nothing.

8150
03:21:37,900 --> 03:21:38,220
That's fine.

8151
03:21:38,360 --> 03:21:38,860
So I think,

8152
03:21:38,980 --> 03:21:39,160
I mean,

8153
03:21:39,220 --> 03:21:39,800
for me then,

8154
03:21:39,840 --> 03:21:41,600
what it boils down to is...

8155
03:21:41,600 --> 03:21:42,780
He's taking root,

8156
03:21:43,080 --> 03:21:44,380
as Boone says there,

8157
03:21:44,580 --> 03:21:45,200
on his own desk.

8158
03:21:45,220 --> 03:21:46,600
in terms of what you're saying.

8159
03:21:46,680 --> 03:21:48,000
Because as Deputy Byrne

8160
03:21:48,000 --> 03:21:49,380
referenced earlier,

8161
03:21:49,380 --> 03:21:50,870
you have referred to kind of

8162
03:21:50,870 --> 03:21:52,560
the idea of disclosing your

8163
03:21:52,560 --> 03:21:53,620
work or interests

8164
03:21:53,620 --> 03:21:55,850
as a potential mood killer in a

8165
03:21:55,850 --> 03:21:57,420
broadcasting situation.

8166
03:21:57,680 --> 03:21:58,860
But then you're also,

8167
03:21:59,280 --> 03:22:00,950
so you are also saying that it

8168
03:22:00,950 --> 03:22:02,430
has no impact on your

8169
03:22:02,430 --> 03:22:04,360
independence as a commentator

8170
03:22:04,360 --> 03:22:04,960
or broadcaster.

8171
03:22:05,140 --> 03:22:06,180
So which is it?

8172
03:22:06,260 --> 03:22:08,190
Like, do people know and trust

8173
03:22:08,190 --> 03:22:09,420
that you do other work

8174
03:22:09,420 --> 03:22:10,830
and they can make up their mind

8175
03:22:10,830 --> 03:22:11,620
to trust you?

8176
03:22:11,820 --> 03:22:12,780
Or do you think,

8177
03:22:13,240 --> 03:22:14,810
would knowing that work that

8178
03:22:14,810 --> 03:22:16,700
broadcasters do off air,

8179
03:22:16,760 --> 03:22:17,630
and I'm not just talking about

8180
03:22:17,630 --> 03:22:18,260
you, Mr Yates,

8181
03:22:18,260 --> 03:22:19,140
I'm talking about everybody,

8182
03:22:19,500 --> 03:22:20,430
that that would be a mood

8183
03:22:20,430 --> 03:22:21,420
killer, as you say.

8184
03:22:21,420 --> 03:22:21,680
Wrap it up.

8185
03:22:21,700 --> 03:22:22,440
I assume that's what you mean

8186
03:22:22,440 --> 03:22:23,000
by a mood killer.

8187
03:22:23,520 --> 03:22:24,000
Wrap it up.

8188
03:22:24,520 --> 03:22:26,200
What I spoke about that,

8189
03:22:26,360 --> 03:22:27,500
and I think if you look at my

8190
03:22:27,500 --> 03:22:27,940
words,

8191
03:22:28,420 --> 03:22:30,050
I was speaking exclusively in

8192
03:22:30,050 --> 03:22:32,040
the context of a podcast.

8193
03:22:32,240 --> 03:22:33,150
Well, now I'm asking about it

8194
03:22:33,150 --> 03:22:33,820
more broadly.

8195
03:22:34,120 --> 03:22:35,580
Well, I actually don't do much

8196
03:22:35,580 --> 03:22:36,880
broadcasting anymore.

8197
03:22:37,240 --> 03:22:38,580
But for the broadcasting that

8198
03:22:38,580 --> 03:22:39,240
you do do,

8199
03:22:40,120 --> 03:22:41,600
I ask the same question then.

8200
03:22:41,600 --> 03:22:42,320
This question is?

8201
03:22:43,120 --> 03:22:44,350
Do you still believe that it is

8202
03:22:44,350 --> 03:22:45,300
a mood killer

8203
03:22:45,300 --> 03:22:47,120
to make disclosures about your

8204
03:22:47,120 --> 03:22:48,980
interests as a broadcaster?

8205
03:22:49,280 --> 03:22:51,780
The situation is this.

8206
03:22:52,460 --> 03:22:53,160
You can't answer that.

8207
03:22:53,160 --> 03:22:56,800
No, my reliance on it is that,

8208
03:22:57,140 --> 03:22:58,380
insofar as presenting,

8209
03:22:59,060 --> 03:23:00,360
so I'm in Curraghian Park,

8210
03:23:00,460 --> 03:23:01,200
I'm presenting this.

8211
03:23:01,500 --> 03:23:02,100
My job...

8212
03:23:02,100 --> 03:23:03,640
You hammered your podcast.

8213
03:23:03,980 --> 03:23:04,980
Thank you very, very much.

8214
03:23:05,040 --> 03:23:06,290
Is it not cold out in the goosers

8215
03:23:06,290 --> 03:23:07,080
today, Conn?

8216
03:23:07,080 --> 03:23:08,630
We have a fantastic little

8217
03:23:08,630 --> 03:23:09,940
heater down there.

8218
03:23:10,040 --> 03:23:11,480
And then the barista machine,

8219
03:23:11,580 --> 03:23:12,400
I'm not sure you can see it

8220
03:23:12,400 --> 03:23:12,820
there.

8221
03:23:13,500 --> 03:23:15,120
That's still piping hot.

8222
03:23:16,320 --> 03:23:18,920
So, heats up quite nicely here.

8223
03:23:19,440 --> 03:23:20,180
And thanks for the tip.

8224
03:23:20,320 --> 03:23:22,070
is to do what the producer says

8225
03:23:22,070 --> 03:23:22,380
to do,

8226
03:23:22,480 --> 03:23:23,560
to get through this event,

8227
03:23:23,820 --> 03:23:24,460
a live TV,

8228
03:23:24,720 --> 03:23:25,540
a radio programme.

8229
03:23:25,880 --> 03:23:27,180
There is a production team,

8230
03:23:27,400 --> 03:23:28,380
there is an editorial team.

8231
03:23:28,520 --> 03:23:30,440
And the presenter is a mere...

8232
03:23:30,440 --> 03:23:32,160
a mere servant of that.

8233
03:23:32,320 --> 03:23:33,900
I have no editorial role.

8234
03:23:34,180 --> 03:23:35,040
In podcasting,

8235
03:23:35,040 --> 03:23:36,060
I've absolutely got an

8236
03:23:36,060 --> 03:23:36,960
editorial role.

8237
03:23:37,120 --> 03:23:38,060
The whole point is,

8238
03:23:38,200 --> 03:23:39,610
you're getting exclusively my

8239
03:23:39,610 --> 03:23:40,460
opinions.

8240
03:23:40,820 --> 03:23:42,400
And I actually think the public

8241
03:23:42,400 --> 03:23:43,800
have no difficulty.

8242
03:23:44,300 --> 03:23:45,540
And what I would say is this.

8243
03:23:45,860 --> 03:23:47,320
The one question I feel

8244
03:23:47,320 --> 03:23:48,980
is the valid question to me.

8245
03:23:49,400 --> 03:23:50,740
When I give an opinion,

8246
03:23:50,900 --> 03:23:51,660
is it authentic

8247
03:23:51,660 --> 03:23:53,300
or is it paid for by somebody

8248
03:23:53,300 --> 03:23:53,840
else?

8249
03:23:54,040 --> 03:23:55,140
And the truth is,

8250
03:23:55,340 --> 03:23:56,500
and you may not believe this,

8251
03:23:56,680 --> 03:23:57,460
but the truth is,

8252
03:23:57,540 --> 03:23:58,360
it is always,

8253
03:23:58,800 --> 03:23:59,260
fearlessly,

8254
03:23:59,520 --> 03:24:00,360
my own opinion.

8255
03:24:00,740 --> 03:24:01,180
Fearless.

8256
03:24:01,180 --> 03:24:02,260
You're editing it here as well.

8257
03:24:02,340 --> 03:24:03,280
You're suggesting what the

8258
03:24:03,280 --> 03:24:03,760
questions are

8259
03:24:03,760 --> 03:24:04,560
that we can put to you.

8260
03:24:04,600 --> 03:24:05,460
But we're putting these

8261
03:24:05,460 --> 03:24:06,140
questions to you

8262
03:24:06,140 --> 03:24:07,390
and you're not giving us the

8263
03:24:07,390 --> 03:24:07,720
answers

8264
03:24:07,720 --> 03:24:08,180
that we're looking for.

8265
03:24:08,180 --> 03:24:09,660
What question did I not answer?

8266
03:24:09,800 --> 03:24:11,670
But any of the questions that I

8267
03:24:11,670 --> 03:24:12,120
asked there

8268
03:24:12,120 --> 03:24:13,380
around your client base

8269
03:24:13,380 --> 03:24:15,080
to simply give us a picture,

8270
03:24:15,500 --> 03:24:16,520
but also to say,

8271
03:24:16,740 --> 03:24:18,000
I asked you about it

8272
03:24:18,000 --> 03:24:18,960
and you said that was only

8273
03:24:18,960 --> 03:24:19,840
related to podcasts.

8274
03:24:20,040 --> 03:24:20,340
And I said,

8275
03:24:20,400 --> 03:24:21,130
well, can you ask me in

8276
03:24:21,130 --> 03:24:22,060
relation to broadcasting?

8277
03:24:22,060 --> 03:24:22,410
In terms of the mood, the mood

8278
03:24:22,410 --> 03:24:22,580
killer.

8279
03:24:22,580 --> 03:24:23,880
And you evaded again.

8280
03:24:24,260 --> 03:24:24,880
Because I think...

8281
03:24:24,880 --> 03:24:26,900
They've saved the best to last

8282
03:24:26,900 --> 03:24:27,740
in terms of,

8283
03:24:27,740 --> 03:24:28,420
you know,

8284
03:24:28,460 --> 03:24:29,860
power with herself.

8285
03:24:30,120 --> 03:24:31,800
I don't know if she is the last,

8286
03:24:31,880 --> 03:24:33,550
but they could have actually

8287
03:24:33,550 --> 03:24:34,040
all done

8288
03:24:34,040 --> 03:24:35,620
with having that chutzpah.

8289
03:24:36,740 --> 03:24:37,080
Do you know?

8290
03:24:37,360 --> 03:24:39,290
There was a real downshift in

8291
03:24:39,290 --> 03:24:39,980
the vibe

8292
03:24:39,980 --> 03:24:41,700
with the previous TD or

8293
03:24:41,700 --> 03:24:42,720
minister.

8294
03:24:44,660 --> 03:24:45,700
And look at that.

8295
03:24:45,980 --> 03:24:47,840
It's just another beautiful

8296
03:24:47,840 --> 03:24:49,080
still as well.

8297
03:24:49,560 --> 03:24:51,340
Just the exasperation

8298
03:24:51,340 --> 03:24:53,690
with what we're having to deal

8299
03:24:53,690 --> 03:24:54,660
with here.

8300
03:24:56,120 --> 03:24:57,280
But, you know,

8301
03:24:57,320 --> 03:24:58,380
that sort of energy

8302
03:24:58,380 --> 03:25:00,100
that she's bringing to the

8303
03:25:00,100 --> 03:25:00,940
grilling

8304
03:25:00,940 --> 03:25:03,260
was unfortunately gone

8305
03:25:03,260 --> 03:25:06,360
from the previous 40 minutes,

8306
03:25:06,500 --> 03:25:07,660
however long it was.

8307
03:25:07,760 --> 03:25:08,800
They should have all done that.

8308
03:25:09,360 --> 03:25:10,060
It would have made for

8309
03:25:10,060 --> 03:25:11,480
even more entertaining viewing.

8310
03:25:12,480 --> 03:25:13,580
I think this is the issue.

8311
03:25:13,640 --> 03:25:14,140
As you're saying,

8312
03:25:14,460 --> 03:25:15,820
I have the personal integrity

8313
03:25:15,820 --> 03:25:17,330
to say that I am doing this job

8314
03:25:17,330 --> 03:25:17,680
today

8315
03:25:17,680 --> 03:25:19,200
and another job tomorrow.

8316
03:25:19,420 --> 03:25:20,820
That is absurd.

8317
03:25:21,180 --> 03:25:22,680
You are either a transparent,

8318
03:25:22,940 --> 03:25:23,880
objective presenter

8319
03:25:23,880 --> 03:25:24,830
of a news-encouraged affairs

8320
03:25:24,830 --> 03:25:25,240
programme

8321
03:25:25,240 --> 03:25:26,000
or you're not.

8322
03:25:26,320 --> 03:25:26,980
And the public,

8323
03:25:27,220 --> 03:25:27,700
the listeners,

8324
03:25:27,940 --> 03:25:29,490
don't have the information that

8325
03:25:29,490 --> 03:25:29,980
you have.

8326
03:25:30,240 --> 03:25:30,700
They cannot.

8327
03:25:30,900 --> 03:25:32,040
You're saying it's up to people

8328
03:25:32,040 --> 03:25:32,500
to decide

8329
03:25:32,500 --> 03:25:33,380
and people can decide

8330
03:25:33,380 --> 03:25:34,560
and listeners can decide,

8331
03:25:34,700 --> 03:25:35,900
but they cannot decide

8332
03:25:35,900 --> 03:25:36,640
if they don't have the

8333
03:25:36,640 --> 03:25:37,200
information.

8334
03:25:37,760 --> 03:25:38,600
And we discussed this

8335
03:25:38,600 --> 03:25:40,580
in the committee earlier today

8336
03:25:40,580 --> 03:25:41,570
because I think it goes way

8337
03:25:41,570 --> 03:25:42,580
beyond training.

8338
03:25:43,120 --> 03:25:44,400
It is about the many,

8339
03:25:44,500 --> 03:25:45,720
many commercial interests

8340
03:25:45,720 --> 03:25:46,580
that are held now.

8341
03:25:46,880 --> 03:25:47,620
And you referenced

8342
03:25:47,620 --> 03:25:48,580
my own comments earlier.

8343
03:25:48,700 --> 03:25:49,300
I do believe

8344
03:25:49,300 --> 03:25:50,120
that there are challenges

8345
03:25:50,120 --> 03:25:51,060
within the broadcasting

8346
03:25:51,060 --> 03:25:52,100
and journalistic industry

8347
03:25:52,100 --> 03:25:53,000
which mean that people

8348
03:25:53,000 --> 03:25:53,760
do have to seek

8349
03:25:53,760 --> 03:25:54,820
and it has grown and grown

8350
03:25:54,820 --> 03:25:55,580
and grown over the last

8351
03:25:55,580 --> 03:25:56,200
number of decades.

8352
03:25:56,540 --> 03:25:57,280
It is all to do

8353
03:25:57,280 --> 03:25:58,480
with the precarity of work as

8354
03:25:58,480 --> 03:25:58,840
well.

8355
03:25:59,180 --> 03:25:59,780
But nonetheless,

8356
03:26:00,200 --> 03:26:01,180
we are now at a point

8357
03:26:01,180 --> 03:26:02,180
where broadcasters

8358
03:26:02,180 --> 03:26:04,260
have a multitude of interests

8359
03:26:04,260 --> 03:26:05,000
and journalists,

8360
03:26:05,140 --> 03:26:05,740
op-ed writers,

8361
03:26:06,020 --> 03:26:07,280
have a multitude of interests

8362
03:26:07,280 --> 03:26:08,300
that are simply

8363
03:26:08,300 --> 03:26:09,660
not available to readers,

8364
03:26:09,960 --> 03:26:11,100
not available to viewers

8365
03:26:11,100 --> 03:26:12,200
and we do not have

8366
03:26:12,200 --> 03:26:13,060
a regulatory framework

8367
03:26:13,060 --> 03:26:13,840
as of yet

8368
03:26:13,840 --> 03:26:15,420
to enforce anything around it.

8369
03:26:15,420 --> 03:26:16,240
And that is a matter

8370
03:26:16,240 --> 03:26:16,880
for you.

8371
03:26:17,260 --> 03:26:19,160
but let's just talk

8372
03:26:19,160 --> 03:26:20,440
about the conflict of interest.

8373
03:26:20,720 --> 03:26:23,200
Love the tone change

8374
03:26:23,200 --> 03:26:24,540
that Ivan managed

8375
03:26:24,540 --> 03:26:26,420
to smuggle in here.

8376
03:26:27,000 --> 03:26:28,260
Bring the heat down.

8377
03:26:28,360 --> 03:26:29,860
Turn the temperature down.

8378
03:26:29,980 --> 03:26:30,840
Okay, we're all

8379
03:26:30,840 --> 03:26:32,360
a little bit fired up.

8380
03:26:33,100 --> 03:26:33,940
Let me bring you

8381
03:26:33,940 --> 03:26:36,040
into my sphere.

8382
03:26:36,560 --> 03:26:37,760
Let me just explain.

8383
03:26:38,620 --> 03:26:40,020
Okay, take your shoes off.

8384
03:26:40,100 --> 03:26:41,260
Do you want some cheese?

8385
03:26:42,360 --> 03:26:43,360
Have some toast.

8386
03:26:44,080 --> 03:26:45,700
I've smeared the bejesus

8387
03:26:45,700 --> 03:26:46,900
out of it with some

8388
03:26:46,900 --> 03:26:49,320
beautiful stuff

8389
03:26:49,320 --> 03:26:49,980
I bought there.

8390
03:26:50,440 --> 03:26:52,320
And I'm going to tell you

8391
03:26:52,320 --> 03:26:53,800
my side of the story.

8392
03:26:55,320 --> 03:26:56,600
It's liquid Yates.

8393
03:26:57,420 --> 03:26:58,640
When I was a minister,

8394
03:26:58,940 --> 03:26:59,420
I would have...

8395
03:26:59,420 --> 03:26:59,660
Is that your question?

8396
03:27:00,060 --> 03:27:00,780
No, no, no, sorry.

8397
03:27:00,980 --> 03:27:01,480
No, no, no.

8398
03:27:01,600 --> 03:27:04,180
Don't fucking interrupt him.

8399
03:27:04,280 --> 03:27:04,740
It doesn't matter.

8400
03:27:05,280 --> 03:27:05,720
Which is,

8401
03:27:05,880 --> 03:27:06,580
when I was a minister,

8402
03:27:06,760 --> 03:27:08,300
I brought the agri-journalists

8403
03:27:08,300 --> 03:27:09,700
around the world on trips.

8404
03:27:09,940 --> 03:27:10,260
And then,

8405
03:27:10,380 --> 03:27:12,100
he was asking,

8406
03:27:12,200 --> 03:27:13,400
is that answering your question?

8407
03:27:13,980 --> 03:27:15,040
And then you can hear her go,

8408
03:27:15,040 --> 03:27:15,560
it doesn't matter.

8409
03:27:15,560 --> 03:27:16,160
It doesn't matter.

8410
03:27:16,160 --> 03:27:17,580
It's...

8411
03:27:17,580 --> 03:27:18,080
It's...

8412
03:27:18,080 --> 03:27:18,580
You know,

8413
03:27:18,580 --> 03:27:19,780
they really...

8414
03:27:19,780 --> 03:27:20,580
They don't...

8415
03:27:21,580 --> 03:27:23,020
They're not affording

8416
03:27:23,020 --> 03:27:25,140
Yates the levity

8417
03:27:25,140 --> 03:27:27,260
and dignity

8418
03:27:27,260 --> 03:27:28,460
that is befitting

8419
03:27:28,460 --> 03:27:29,160
of the man here.

8420
03:27:29,240 --> 03:27:31,060
talk about conflict of interest.

8421
03:27:31,600 --> 03:27:33,040
When I was a minister...

8422
03:27:33,040 --> 03:27:33,700
Is that your question?

8423
03:27:34,080 --> 03:27:34,820
No, no, no, sorry.

8424
03:27:35,000 --> 03:27:35,540
No, no, no.

8425
03:27:35,540 --> 03:27:36,100
I just want to...

8426
03:27:36,100 --> 03:27:37,260
I want to make a very brief...

8427
03:27:37,260 --> 03:27:37,520
It doesn't matter.

8428
03:27:38,040 --> 03:27:38,500
Which is,

8429
03:27:38,660 --> 03:27:39,320
when I was a minister,

8430
03:27:39,420 --> 03:27:41,060
I brought the agri-journalists

8431
03:27:41,060 --> 03:27:42,440
around the world on trips.

8432
03:27:42,660 --> 03:27:44,860
When a minister leaks a story,

8433
03:27:45,240 --> 03:27:46,690
it's with a view to currying

8434
03:27:46,690 --> 03:27:47,120
favour

8435
03:27:47,120 --> 03:27:48,160
with those journalists.

8436
03:27:48,160 --> 03:27:49,860
There are all these complex

8437
03:27:49,860 --> 03:27:51,060
relationships.

8438
03:27:51,380 --> 03:27:52,680
Is that a conflict of interest?

8439
03:27:52,900 --> 03:27:53,880
If a spouse is working in

8440
03:27:53,880 --> 03:27:54,560
something,

8441
03:27:54,720 --> 03:27:56,060
is that a conflict of interest?

8442
03:27:56,400 --> 03:27:57,900
So, I think you've got to rely

8443
03:27:57,900 --> 03:27:59,420
on someone's personal integrity.

8444
03:27:59,760 --> 03:28:01,410
Are you getting the authentic

8445
03:28:01,410 --> 03:28:02,040
person?

8446
03:28:02,040 --> 03:28:03,700
Well, I, as a consumer of media,

8447
03:28:04,140 --> 03:28:05,540
want to rely on principles.

8448
03:28:05,920 --> 03:28:07,180
And I do not believe

8449
03:28:07,180 --> 03:28:08,440
that your personal integrity

8450
03:28:08,440 --> 03:28:09,080
has displayed

8451
03:28:09,080 --> 03:28:09,760
that those principles

8452
03:28:09,760 --> 03:28:10,520
are being upheld in your

8453
03:28:10,520 --> 03:28:10,860
broadcast.

8454
03:28:10,860 --> 03:28:11,540
that's your opinion.

8455
03:28:11,700 --> 03:28:12,520
You're entitled to it.

8456
03:28:12,600 --> 03:28:13,000
Are you clear?

8457
03:28:13,680 --> 03:28:15,280
Thank you very much, Cahirloch.

8458
03:28:15,700 --> 03:28:16,320
Lovely, Andy.

8459
03:28:16,840 --> 03:28:19,020
And thank you for showing up.

8460
03:28:19,460 --> 03:28:20,180
It is appreciated.

8461
03:28:20,280 --> 03:28:20,990
There were others that were

8462
03:28:20,990 --> 03:28:21,200
asked

8463
03:28:21,200 --> 03:28:22,180
and didn't show up.

8464
03:28:22,240 --> 03:28:23,300
So, I just want to acknowledge

8465
03:28:23,300 --> 03:28:23,600
that

8466
03:28:23,600 --> 03:28:24,320
at the start.

8467
03:28:24,400 --> 03:28:25,040
And just to declare,

8468
03:28:25,540 --> 03:28:26,000
I have absolutely zero

8469
03:28:26,000 --> 03:28:27,140
conflicts of interest.

8470
03:28:27,280 --> 03:28:28,600
I've never met Mr Yates.

8471
03:28:29,120 --> 03:28:30,560
He did predict a bit of a seat

8472
03:28:30,560 --> 03:28:31,200
in Carder, Clicquedy,

8473
03:28:31,320 --> 03:28:31,920
against the Grains.

8474
03:28:32,040 --> 03:28:35,360
So, I thank him for giving me

8475
03:28:35,360 --> 03:28:35,960
a bit of a boost.

8476
03:28:36,480 --> 03:28:37,800
But absolutely no connection.

8477
03:28:37,880 --> 03:28:38,220
Never met.

8478
03:28:38,280 --> 03:28:39,120
And I've never been trained

8479
03:28:39,120 --> 03:28:40,460
by Mr Yates either.

8480
03:28:40,460 --> 03:28:43,230
Although he has done a bit of

8481
03:28:43,230 --> 03:28:43,400
work

8482
03:28:43,400 --> 03:28:44,240
with Fianna Fall in the past,

8483
03:28:44,280 --> 03:28:44,900
which I'm sure we'll get to.

8484
03:28:45,220 --> 03:28:45,620
Oh!

8485
03:28:46,800 --> 03:28:48,090
So, the digs are coming in

8486
03:28:48,090 --> 03:28:49,060
again.

8487
03:28:49,220 --> 03:28:50,540
The underhanded sort of little

8488
03:28:50,540 --> 03:28:51,140
diggings.

8489
03:28:52,380 --> 03:28:53,140
As we're going along.

8490
03:28:53,260 --> 03:28:54,240
But just in your,

8491
03:28:54,420 --> 03:28:56,820
in relation to your podcast,

8492
03:28:56,960 --> 03:28:57,580
if I can start,

8493
03:28:57,960 --> 03:28:58,760
Mr Yates, Pat Power.

8494
03:28:59,280 --> 03:29:00,080
And I must say,

8495
03:29:00,220 --> 03:29:00,600
and confess,

8496
03:29:00,680 --> 03:29:01,360
I do listen.

8497
03:29:01,600 --> 03:29:02,560
As I know most people do.

8498
03:29:02,560 --> 03:29:03,360
We all listen to it.

8499
03:29:03,740 --> 03:29:04,610
But you say in your opening

8500
03:29:04,610 --> 03:29:05,060
remarks

8501
03:29:05,060 --> 03:29:06,260
regarding the podcast that,

8502
03:29:06,660 --> 03:29:07,290
I think it was mentioned

8503
03:29:07,290 --> 03:29:07,800
earlier,

8504
03:29:07,800 --> 03:29:09,120
a guaranteed mood killer

8505
03:29:09,120 --> 03:29:10,220
in that environment

8506
03:29:10,220 --> 03:29:10,800
would have been,

8507
03:29:10,900 --> 03:29:11,800
if we had been forced

8508
03:29:11,800 --> 03:29:13,040
to preface every debate

8509
03:29:13,040 --> 03:29:14,140
with a disclaimer

8510
03:29:14,140 --> 03:29:15,740
or a declaration of interest.

8511
03:29:16,240 --> 03:29:16,800
That's your words

8512
03:29:16,800 --> 03:29:17,420
from your open statement.

8513
03:29:18,060 --> 03:29:19,020
So, if you have,

8514
03:29:19,220 --> 03:29:20,560
and to quote you later on,

8515
03:29:20,860 --> 03:29:22,740
a pugnacious broadcasting style,

8516
03:29:23,160 --> 03:29:23,800
does that mean

8517
03:29:23,800 --> 03:29:25,000
Matt Cooper was the mood killer?

8518
03:29:26,160 --> 03:29:26,360
No.

8519
03:29:27,160 --> 03:29:27,520
Absolutely.

8520
03:29:28,340 --> 03:29:29,500
Got to hand it to this fella

8521
03:29:29,500 --> 03:29:29,860
here.

8522
03:29:30,000 --> 03:29:32,510
he's, he's, he's, he's getting

8523
03:29:32,510 --> 03:29:33,300
personal,

8524
03:29:33,420 --> 03:29:33,740
you know.

8525
03:29:34,080 --> 03:29:34,920
He knows that

8526
03:29:34,920 --> 03:29:37,480
path to power is no more

8527
03:29:37,480 --> 03:29:39,180
as it, as we know it.

8528
03:29:39,640 --> 03:29:41,160
Ivan's had to cut ties with

8529
03:29:41,160 --> 03:29:41,540
that.

8530
03:29:41,920 --> 03:29:43,320
And it's, it's broken up.

8531
03:29:43,880 --> 03:29:45,800
A terrific and formidable

8532
03:29:45,800 --> 03:29:46,880
media partnership

8533
03:29:46,880 --> 03:29:48,460
between two titans.

8534
03:29:49,740 --> 03:29:52,060
And this is, this is going to

8535
03:29:52,060 --> 03:29:52,720
hurt.

8536
03:29:52,860 --> 03:29:53,810
I think this is going to hurt,

8537
03:29:53,810 --> 03:29:54,100
Ivan.

8538
03:29:54,260 --> 03:29:55,340
I'd be interested to see

8539
03:29:55,340 --> 03:29:57,720
how he responds here.

8540
03:29:57,720 --> 03:29:58,940
No, I'm not going to comment

8541
03:29:58,940 --> 03:29:59,680
about Matt Cooper

8542
03:29:59,680 --> 03:30:00,740
at all this evening.

8543
03:30:01,380 --> 03:30:03,380
The situation is this,

8544
03:30:03,960 --> 03:30:05,400
that, and I've actually been

8545
03:30:05,400 --> 03:30:06,520
thinking about this

8546
03:30:06,520 --> 03:30:08,180
over the last 48 hours.

8547
03:30:09,020 --> 03:30:10,940
So just say every interest

8548
03:30:10,940 --> 03:30:11,540
was declared.

8549
03:30:12,140 --> 03:30:14,200
I would say people who declare

8550
03:30:14,200 --> 03:30:15,220
interest will not be on

8551
03:30:15,220 --> 03:30:15,740
Morning Ireland.

8552
03:30:15,960 --> 03:30:16,600
They'll be excluded.

8553
03:30:16,860 --> 03:30:17,840
That's, that's going to be

8554
03:30:17,840 --> 03:30:19,560
the consequence of declaration.

8555
03:30:19,840 --> 03:30:20,660
As a lot of people

8556
03:30:20,660 --> 03:30:22,240
with insights and knowledge,

8557
03:30:22,340 --> 03:30:22,840
and that's fine.

8558
03:30:22,960 --> 03:30:24,000
If that's going to be

8559
03:30:24,000 --> 03:30:25,120
the regime going forward,

8560
03:30:25,300 --> 03:30:26,220
it will be journalists

8561
03:30:26,220 --> 03:30:27,440
talking to journalists.

8562
03:30:27,740 --> 03:30:28,960
It'll be a monoculture.

8563
03:30:29,200 --> 03:30:30,100
And good luck with that.

8564
03:30:30,200 --> 03:30:31,020
And I think the public

8565
03:30:31,020 --> 03:30:32,120
will not be well served.

8566
03:30:33,060 --> 03:30:34,600
You said in previous...

8567
03:30:34,600 --> 03:30:35,640
No one's going to tune in.

8568
03:30:37,020 --> 03:30:38,700
That you purposely

8569
03:30:38,700 --> 03:30:41,180
didn't inform Matt Cooper

8570
03:30:41,180 --> 03:30:41,840
or NK management

8571
03:30:41,840 --> 03:30:43,560
of your involvement.

8572
03:30:43,840 --> 03:30:45,340
Ivan moves around the room

8573
03:30:45,340 --> 03:30:47,580
rhetorically like an albatross

8574
03:30:47,580 --> 03:30:48,740
with the freedom

8575
03:30:48,740 --> 03:30:50,660
of a full summer sky.

8576
03:30:51,040 --> 03:30:51,720
Beautifully put.

8577
03:30:51,960 --> 03:30:52,700
But you also said

8578
03:30:52,700 --> 03:30:54,200
in your LinkedIn profile...

8579
03:30:54,200 --> 03:30:56,520
And Yates is the Steven Seagal

8580
03:30:56,520 --> 03:30:57,700
of verbal combat.

8581
03:30:57,980 --> 03:30:58,840
The second thing now

8582
03:30:58,840 --> 03:31:00,400
is that you are a media trainer.

8583
03:31:01,420 --> 03:31:02,500
So was it a case of

8584
03:31:02,500 --> 03:31:03,300
they didn't want to know?

8585
03:31:04,500 --> 03:31:05,240
Or was it a case of...

8586
03:31:05,240 --> 03:31:05,940
I mean, surely to God

8587
03:31:05,940 --> 03:31:06,400
they would have known

8588
03:31:06,400 --> 03:31:08,380
you were involved in coaching

8589
03:31:08,380 --> 03:31:09,400
as per the article

8590
03:31:09,400 --> 03:31:10,020
in the Daily Mail

8591
03:31:10,020 --> 03:31:10,540
two years ago

8592
03:31:10,540 --> 03:31:11,440
in coaching Fianna Fáil

8593
03:31:11,440 --> 03:31:12,760
ministers in the past.

8594
03:31:13,780 --> 03:31:14,860
So the question is?

8595
03:31:15,260 --> 03:31:16,320
The question is...

8596
03:31:16,320 --> 03:31:16,900
Is...

8597
03:31:16,900 --> 03:31:18,040
Did NK management

8598
03:31:18,040 --> 03:31:18,920
or Matt Cooper

8599
03:31:18,920 --> 03:31:20,060
know of your involvement?

8600
03:31:21,480 --> 03:31:22,500
Not that I'm aware of.

8601
03:31:22,580 --> 03:31:23,300
I certainly...

8602
03:31:23,300 --> 03:31:24,600
We had no discussion about that.

8603
03:31:24,740 --> 03:31:25,640
So you didn't declare it

8604
03:31:25,640 --> 03:31:26,160
nor did they ask?

8605
03:31:26,160 --> 03:31:28,180
No, that's my understanding.

8606
03:31:28,300 --> 03:31:29,180
But just for clarity...

8607
03:31:29,180 --> 03:31:30,780
So the Yateser

8608
03:31:30,780 --> 03:31:32,760
was with NK management.

8609
03:31:32,920 --> 03:31:33,880
Have I got that correct?

8610
03:31:34,220 --> 03:31:35,000
NK Ultra.

8611
03:31:36,440 --> 03:31:36,800
And...

8612
03:31:36,800 --> 03:31:39,860
He didn't...

8613
03:31:39,860 --> 03:31:40,860
He didn't...

8614
03:31:40,860 --> 03:31:42,420
disclose that to them.

8615
03:31:42,480 --> 03:31:43,860
I'd say Yates' biggest...

8616
03:31:45,480 --> 03:31:47,180
problem that he has

8617
03:31:47,180 --> 03:31:49,400
is the ties that have been

8618
03:31:49,400 --> 03:31:49,760
forged

8619
03:31:49,760 --> 03:31:51,080
with, you know,

8620
03:31:51,200 --> 03:31:51,860
the media corporations.

8621
03:31:52,860 --> 03:31:54,080
You know,

8622
03:31:54,120 --> 03:31:55,080
he might not get a gig

8623
03:31:55,080 --> 03:31:56,040
with them now.

8624
03:31:59,160 --> 03:32:00,900
that's even more.

8625
03:32:01,560 --> 03:32:03,020
Reason for him to go solo.

8626
03:32:03,740 --> 03:32:04,820
Do his own stuff.

8627
03:32:05,360 --> 03:32:06,780
Get U3 infotainment

8628
03:32:06,780 --> 03:32:08,220
pumping out a brand new pod.

8629
03:32:09,080 --> 03:32:10,500
And there's been no shortage

8630
03:32:10,500 --> 03:32:11,420
of suggestions

8631
03:32:11,420 --> 03:32:12,680
for what that pod could be

8632
03:32:12,680 --> 03:32:13,820
or how it would manifest.

8633
03:32:14,000 --> 03:32:14,840
harass you at any stage.

8634
03:32:15,060 --> 03:32:15,380
Absolutely.

8635
03:32:15,920 --> 03:32:17,400
And I wouldn't try

8636
03:32:17,400 --> 03:32:17,880
and put them

8637
03:32:17,880 --> 03:32:18,540
in an individual position.

8638
03:32:18,540 --> 03:32:18,760
That's fine.

8639
03:32:18,840 --> 03:32:19,300
No, I just...

8640
03:32:19,300 --> 03:32:20,020
Because I take this

8641
03:32:20,020 --> 03:32:20,720
above myself.

8642
03:32:20,800 --> 03:32:21,100
I understand.

8643
03:32:21,360 --> 03:32:21,640
I understand.

8644
03:32:22,500 --> 03:32:23,500
You say media training

8645
03:32:23,500 --> 03:32:24,280
has been a small element

8646
03:32:24,280 --> 03:32:25,140
of your commercial revenue

8647
03:32:25,140 --> 03:32:26,120
and obviously training

8648
03:32:26,120 --> 03:32:27,520
of political individuals

8649
03:32:27,520 --> 03:32:28,040
or parties

8650
03:32:28,040 --> 03:32:29,220
is an element of that.

8651
03:32:29,660 --> 03:32:30,620
Now, I don't want to get

8652
03:32:30,620 --> 03:32:31,120
into any specifics

8653
03:32:31,120 --> 03:32:31,600
of any people

8654
03:32:31,600 --> 03:32:32,200
because I know

8655
03:32:32,200 --> 03:32:33,020
you're very protective

8656
03:32:33,020 --> 03:32:33,480
of your clients

8657
03:32:33,480 --> 03:32:34,440
and I absolutely respect that.

8658
03:32:35,260 --> 03:32:36,640
But it is public knowledge

8659
03:32:36,640 --> 03:32:37,520
that you have been involved

8660
03:32:37,520 --> 03:32:38,460
with Fianna Fáil in the past.

8661
03:32:39,280 --> 03:32:40,280
Who approaches who

8662
03:32:40,280 --> 03:32:41,340
in a situation like that?

8663
03:32:43,620 --> 03:32:44,420
That is covered

8664
03:32:44,420 --> 03:32:45,870
under confidentiality of

8665
03:32:45,870 --> 03:32:46,180
clients.

8666
03:32:46,360 --> 03:32:46,740
I mean, like,

8667
03:32:47,000 --> 03:32:48,740
who in Fianna Fáil approach me?

8668
03:32:48,840 --> 03:32:49,260
Yeah, like,

8669
03:32:49,260 --> 03:32:50,330
did Fianna Fáil approach Ivan

8670
03:32:50,330 --> 03:32:50,620
Yates

8671
03:32:50,620 --> 03:32:51,610
or did Ivan Yates approach Fianna

8672
03:32:51,610 --> 03:32:51,860
Fáil?

8673
03:32:51,860 --> 03:32:53,040
Oh, I never approach...

8674
03:32:53,040 --> 03:32:54,640
I actually have no website.

8675
03:32:54,960 --> 03:32:55,680
I don't advertise.

8676
03:32:56,140 --> 03:32:57,000
It's all word of mouth.

8677
03:32:57,320 --> 03:32:58,300
People have my number

8678
03:32:58,300 --> 03:32:58,960
and they...

8679
03:32:58,960 --> 03:32:59,540
But, like,

8680
03:32:59,660 --> 03:33:00,460
I want to be...

8681
03:33:00,460 --> 03:33:01,980
As if Ivan's going to be

8682
03:33:01,980 --> 03:33:02,620
going around

8683
03:33:02,620 --> 03:33:03,600
with the cap in hand

8684
03:33:03,600 --> 03:33:03,900
going,

8685
03:33:04,320 --> 03:33:05,360
can I have...

8686
03:33:05,360 --> 03:33:06,160
Do you want me to do

8687
03:33:06,160 --> 03:33:07,200
your advising for you?

8688
03:33:07,440 --> 03:33:07,860
Can you do this?

8689
03:33:07,920 --> 03:33:09,200
They're going to the man.

8690
03:33:09,940 --> 03:33:10,200
You know,

8691
03:33:11,200 --> 03:33:12,060
what is it?

8692
03:33:12,080 --> 03:33:13,260
Mountain doesn't come to

8693
03:33:13,260 --> 03:33:13,660
Muhammad

8694
03:33:13,660 --> 03:33:14,640
that kind of way.

8695
03:33:16,200 --> 03:33:16,960
Why are they asking

8696
03:33:16,960 --> 03:33:17,700
these questions?

8697
03:33:18,100 --> 03:33:18,820
And you can see

8698
03:33:18,820 --> 03:33:19,760
that question,

8699
03:33:20,220 --> 03:33:21,080
why are they asking

8700
03:33:21,080 --> 03:33:21,640
this stuff,

8701
03:33:22,180 --> 03:33:22,800
is theirs

8702
03:33:22,800 --> 03:33:23,500
written all over

8703
03:33:23,500 --> 03:33:24,140
that expression.

8704
03:33:26,140 --> 03:33:27,880
I just want to say this.

8705
03:33:27,880 --> 03:33:30,560
I do about 80 events a year.

8706
03:33:30,960 --> 03:33:32,000
They are award ceremonies,

8707
03:33:32,160 --> 03:33:32,800
they are conferences,

8708
03:33:33,180 --> 03:33:34,360
they are guest speaking events

8709
03:33:34,360 --> 03:33:35,320
after dinner speaking.

8710
03:33:35,720 --> 03:33:37,200
That is my primary activity.

8711
03:33:37,720 --> 03:33:38,260
If someone asks me

8712
03:33:38,260 --> 03:33:39,100
to do a bit of coaching,

8713
03:33:39,280 --> 03:33:39,860
I'll do that.

8714
03:33:39,980 --> 03:33:40,740
But I am not

8715
03:33:40,740 --> 03:33:41,560
the number one coach.

8716
03:33:41,780 --> 03:33:42,460
And can I just put

8717
03:33:42,460 --> 03:33:43,380
one question to you?

8718
03:33:43,620 --> 03:33:44,740
How come in all

8719
03:33:44,740 --> 03:33:45,560
of this controversy

8720
03:33:45,560 --> 03:33:46,620
over two or three weeks,

8721
03:33:46,980 --> 03:33:48,180
not one other party

8722
03:33:48,180 --> 03:33:49,060
has come forward

8723
03:33:49,060 --> 03:33:49,840
with one coach?

8724
03:33:50,380 --> 03:33:51,260
There's no coaches

8725
03:33:51,260 --> 03:33:52,460
or they're just all

8726
03:33:52,460 --> 03:33:53,800
hiding in the undergrowth.

8727
03:33:53,980 --> 03:33:54,660
Is that credible?

8728
03:33:55,140 --> 03:33:55,320
Thank you.

8729
03:33:55,380 --> 03:33:55,760
And if you could just

8730
03:33:55,760 --> 03:33:56,440
answer a question,

8731
03:33:56,580 --> 03:33:57,080
if that's okay.

8732
03:33:57,820 --> 03:33:58,340
Good point.

8733
03:33:58,720 --> 03:33:59,520
Who approached who?

8734
03:33:59,620 --> 03:34:00,580
So Fianna Fáil approached you.

8735
03:34:00,680 --> 03:34:01,620
In every case,

8736
03:34:01,720 --> 03:34:03,300
the client always approaches me.

8737
03:34:03,560 --> 03:34:03,740
Okay.

8738
03:34:04,100 --> 03:34:05,600
So when you're doing training

8739
03:34:05,600 --> 03:34:08,940
with a public representative

8740
03:34:08,940 --> 03:34:09,700
or a minister

8741
03:34:09,700 --> 03:34:10,620
or the Taoiseach,

8742
03:34:11,220 --> 03:34:13,300
and you go through

8743
03:34:13,300 --> 03:34:13,880
your bits and pieces

8744
03:34:13,880 --> 03:34:14,760
and you've outlined

8745
03:34:14,760 --> 03:34:15,660
that earlier on as well,

8746
03:34:16,100 --> 03:34:17,460
once that is completed,

8747
03:34:18,000 --> 03:34:19,200
what happens

8748
03:34:19,200 --> 03:34:20,180
in terms of the feedback?

8749
03:34:20,320 --> 03:34:21,020
So you go and you do

8750
03:34:21,020 --> 03:34:21,860
a session with a minister

8751
03:34:21,860 --> 03:34:22,760
on X or Y or Z.

8752
03:34:23,360 --> 03:34:24,640
I presume you give feedback

8753
03:34:24,640 --> 03:34:25,560
to the said minister?

8754
03:34:25,960 --> 03:34:26,120
No.

8755
03:34:26,860 --> 03:34:27,760
No, the situation is

8756
03:34:27,760 --> 03:34:28,980
I tell them in advance.

8757
03:34:29,140 --> 03:34:29,300
Yeah.

8758
03:34:29,560 --> 03:34:30,540
I said write down

8759
03:34:30,540 --> 03:34:31,420
the three key points

8760
03:34:31,420 --> 03:34:32,180
you want to get across

8761
03:34:32,180 --> 03:34:33,660
and success or failure,

8762
03:34:33,800 --> 03:34:34,500
did those words

8763
03:34:34,500 --> 03:34:35,360
come out of your mouth?

8764
03:34:35,660 --> 03:34:36,780
You don't need me to tell you.

8765
03:34:37,040 --> 03:34:37,660
You don't need me

8766
03:34:37,660 --> 03:34:38,580
to look back at the tape.

8767
03:34:38,840 --> 03:34:39,700
That's the advice I give to

8768
03:34:39,700 --> 03:34:39,960
them.

8769
03:34:40,220 --> 03:34:41,740
So if those words

8770
03:34:41,740 --> 03:34:43,020
don't come out of your mouth,

8771
03:34:43,080 --> 03:34:43,940
you didn't control the

8772
03:34:43,940 --> 03:34:44,360
interview.

8773
03:34:44,720 --> 03:34:45,500
And so therefore,

8774
03:34:45,880 --> 03:34:47,180
that is the yardstick

8775
03:34:47,180 --> 03:34:47,720
I tell everyone.

8776
03:34:47,860 --> 03:34:50,820
So I have no post hoc event.

8777
03:34:51,080 --> 03:34:51,260
Okay.

8778
03:34:51,260 --> 03:34:53,000
So you meet a client,

8779
03:34:53,420 --> 03:34:54,180
you do your work with them

8780
03:34:54,180 --> 03:34:54,960
and you go in your merry way.

8781
03:34:54,980 --> 03:34:55,760
And it's usually prepared

8782
03:34:55,760 --> 03:34:56,900
for a particular event.

8783
03:34:57,040 --> 03:34:58,020
But you don't give any feedback

8784
03:34:58,020 --> 03:34:58,340
then

8785
03:34:58,340 --> 03:34:59,060
to, for example,

8786
03:34:59,360 --> 03:35:00,340
your employer.

8787
03:35:00,420 --> 03:35:01,460
No, there's no retainer.

8788
03:35:01,540 --> 03:35:01,940
There's no,

8789
03:35:02,140 --> 03:35:02,820
like it is just a specific

8790
03:35:02,820 --> 03:35:03,340
function.

8791
03:35:03,340 --> 03:35:03,900
I love that.

8792
03:35:04,340 --> 03:35:05,140
It's like,

8793
03:35:05,260 --> 03:35:05,880
I'm not a...

8794
03:35:05,880 --> 03:35:06,900
You don't give any feedback

8795
03:35:06,900 --> 03:35:07,720
to your employer.

8796
03:35:08,340 --> 03:35:09,200
...selector on the team

8797
03:35:09,200 --> 03:35:09,940
and just the coach.

8798
03:35:10,060 --> 03:35:10,460
Well, I'm just trying

8799
03:35:10,460 --> 03:35:11,140
to get clear in my head

8800
03:35:11,140 --> 03:35:13,580
that you do a session

8801
03:35:13,580 --> 03:35:14,220
with an individual.

8802
03:35:14,340 --> 03:35:14,500
Yeah.

8803
03:35:15,600 --> 03:35:16,680
You, on that day,

8804
03:35:16,740 --> 03:35:17,280
whatever you cover,

8805
03:35:17,340 --> 03:35:17,900
you cover and you give

8806
03:35:17,900 --> 03:35:18,540
the feedback that day

8807
03:35:18,540 --> 03:35:19,540
is done with that session.

8808
03:35:20,100 --> 03:35:21,100
But you don't have

8809
03:35:21,100 --> 03:35:21,800
any conversation

8810
03:35:21,800 --> 03:35:22,900
with the person that employed

8811
03:35:22,900 --> 03:35:23,040
you

8812
03:35:23,040 --> 03:35:24,220
or the entity that employed you

8813
03:35:24,220 --> 03:35:25,040
to give feedback at all.

8814
03:35:25,060 --> 03:35:26,540
sometimes on the masterclass,

8815
03:35:26,640 --> 03:35:27,440
take for an NGO,

8816
03:35:27,640 --> 03:35:28,460
I'd say, look,

8817
03:35:28,780 --> 03:35:29,440
free gratis.

8818
03:35:29,580 --> 03:35:30,060
If you've got someone

8819
03:35:30,060 --> 03:35:30,960
going on a programme,

8820
03:35:31,340 --> 03:35:32,400
I'll do a, you know,

8821
03:35:32,520 --> 03:35:34,060
kind of quick phone call

8822
03:35:34,060 --> 03:35:34,400
with you.

8823
03:35:34,520 --> 03:35:34,880
But no,

8824
03:35:34,940 --> 03:35:36,620
I have no aftercare service

8825
03:35:36,620 --> 03:35:37,580
if that's what you're asking.

8826
03:35:37,780 --> 03:35:39,140
Have you ever lobbied

8827
03:35:39,140 --> 03:35:41,500
any ministers you were trading

8828
03:35:41,500 --> 03:35:42,620
aftercare service?

8829
03:35:43,420 --> 03:35:44,340
Or teachers, or leaders?

8830
03:35:44,360 --> 03:35:45,780
So the situation is quite

8831
03:35:45,780 --> 03:35:46,320
separate

8832
03:35:46,320 --> 03:35:48,240
to those activities.

8833
03:35:49,000 --> 03:35:50,660
I also act as an advisor

8834
03:35:50,660 --> 03:35:51,660
for two companies.

8835
03:35:51,840 --> 03:35:52,920
And Colin Keener wrote about

8836
03:35:52,920 --> 03:35:53,160
this

8837
03:35:53,160 --> 03:35:54,080
on the 7th of November.

8838
03:35:54,520 --> 03:35:55,980
One is UTS Technologies

8839
03:35:55,980 --> 03:35:58,300
and the other is Regnum Renewables.

8840
03:35:58,880 --> 03:36:00,000
And I've always said,

8841
03:36:00,160 --> 03:36:01,060
because would you believe it,

8842
03:36:01,180 --> 03:36:02,440
I've been asked by dozens of

8843
03:36:02,440 --> 03:36:02,840
people

8844
03:36:02,840 --> 03:36:04,820
to act as a public affairs

8845
03:36:04,820 --> 03:36:05,200
thing,

8846
03:36:05,300 --> 03:36:05,860
and I actually wasn't

8847
03:36:05,860 --> 03:36:06,260
interested

8848
03:36:06,260 --> 03:36:06,680
in that work.

8849
03:36:06,960 --> 03:36:07,940
But there's two things

8850
03:36:07,940 --> 03:36:09,560
I feel very passionately about.

8851
03:36:10,000 --> 03:36:10,540
If we're going to have

8852
03:36:10,540 --> 03:36:11,720
80% electricity,

8853
03:36:12,360 --> 03:36:13,900
more, you know,

8854
03:36:14,340 --> 03:36:15,520
resilience on our security

8855
03:36:15,520 --> 03:36:16,020
and supply,

8856
03:36:16,240 --> 03:36:17,080
less carbon emissions,

8857
03:36:17,260 --> 03:36:18,480
we need all the wind farms

8858
03:36:18,480 --> 03:36:19,380
and solar farms you can get.

8859
03:36:19,520 --> 03:36:20,700
I'd write a thousand words

8860
03:36:20,700 --> 03:36:22,040
for free about that.

8861
03:36:22,120 --> 03:36:22,760
The other thing

8862
03:36:22,760 --> 03:36:24,000
is the parking issue.

8863
03:36:24,320 --> 03:36:25,480
In the UK and Europe,

8864
03:36:25,560 --> 03:36:26,300
there is one app

8865
03:36:26,300 --> 03:36:27,100
where you can have

8866
03:36:27,100 --> 03:36:27,940
all the providers.

8867
03:36:28,260 --> 03:36:28,940
What the fuck

8868
03:36:28,940 --> 03:36:30,020
are they on about here now?

8869
03:36:30,080 --> 03:36:30,820
It's gone off.

8870
03:36:30,940 --> 03:36:32,620
It's completely gone off-piste.

8871
03:36:33,620 --> 03:36:35,760
Talking about car park apps

8872
03:36:35,760 --> 03:36:37,440
over in the UK,

8873
03:36:38,080 --> 03:36:38,800
I've lost it.

8874
03:36:39,520 --> 03:36:40,680
whether it's pay zone,

8875
03:36:40,820 --> 03:36:41,720
easy park on one,

8876
03:36:42,000 --> 03:36:43,160
and I've been trying to lobby

8877
03:36:43,160 --> 03:36:44,340
to get that done,

8878
03:36:44,440 --> 03:36:45,000
and I took it on

8879
03:36:45,000 --> 03:36:45,960
for a finite period

8880
03:36:45,960 --> 03:36:46,840
because I believe

8881
03:36:46,840 --> 03:36:47,900
it's in the consumer interest.

8882
03:36:48,260 --> 03:36:49,060
Anything else?

8883
03:36:49,220 --> 03:36:50,240
I've been asked to do things

8884
03:36:50,240 --> 03:36:50,980
about gambling,

8885
03:36:51,400 --> 03:36:52,080
asked to do things

8886
03:36:52,080 --> 03:36:54,100
about the beverage industry

8887
03:36:54,100 --> 03:36:54,420
and so on,

8888
03:36:54,480 --> 03:36:54,960
and I just said,

8889
03:36:55,040 --> 03:36:55,220
actually,

8890
03:36:55,300 --> 03:36:56,300
I'm not interested in that.

8891
03:36:56,400 --> 03:36:57,360
have you done any work

8892
03:36:57,360 --> 03:36:58,200
for any state bodies

8893
03:36:58,200 --> 03:36:59,160
or local authorities

8894
03:36:59,160 --> 03:37:01,680
or semi-state bodies?

8895
03:37:01,920 --> 03:37:02,180
I have.

8896
03:37:02,500 --> 03:37:02,760
You have?

8897
03:37:03,220 --> 03:37:04,340
That is not in public affairs

8898
03:37:04,340 --> 03:37:04,720
now.

8899
03:37:04,960 --> 03:37:05,060
Sorry,

8900
03:37:05,160 --> 03:37:05,900
and can I just say,

8901
03:37:06,200 --> 03:37:07,440
in regards to your question

8902
03:37:07,440 --> 03:37:08,220
of who I've met

8903
03:37:08,220 --> 03:37:08,980
and who I've lobbied,

8904
03:37:09,220 --> 03:37:10,380
all of those are done

8905
03:37:10,380 --> 03:37:12,220
on three returns a year

8906
03:37:12,220 --> 03:37:13,540
with lobbying.ie.

8907
03:37:13,680 --> 03:37:15,100
So it'll be absolutely clear

8908
03:37:15,100 --> 03:37:16,040
who I met,

8909
03:37:16,440 --> 03:37:17,380
what I discussed,

8910
03:37:17,620 --> 03:37:17,940
why I met them.

8911
03:37:17,940 --> 03:37:19,080
Lobbying.ie.

8912
03:37:19,080 --> 03:37:20,140
And I've tried

8913
03:37:20,140 --> 03:37:21,200
to be compliant

8914
03:37:21,200 --> 03:37:22,680
in relation to all laws.

8915
03:37:22,700 --> 03:37:23,880
And just to be absolutely clear,

8916
03:37:23,940 --> 03:37:24,500
just to finish up,

8917
03:37:24,820 --> 03:37:27,360
in terms of your fee situation,

8918
03:37:27,660 --> 03:37:29,460
you charge on an hourly basis

8919
03:37:29,460 --> 03:37:30,740
as opposed to being on a retainer.

8920
03:37:30,800 --> 03:37:31,460
So you're not on a retainer.

8921
03:37:31,460 --> 03:37:32,920
Well, I always say to people

8922
03:37:32,920 --> 03:37:33,940
as regards to my fee

8923
03:37:33,940 --> 03:37:34,780
because people think

8924
03:37:34,780 --> 03:37:35,380
I have ginormous fees.

8925
03:37:35,380 --> 03:37:36,120
I don't know your fee.

8926
03:37:36,120 --> 03:37:36,440
No, no, no,

8927
03:37:36,500 --> 03:37:37,700
I just have a standard thing

8928
03:37:37,700 --> 03:37:39,240
is what's your budget?

8929
03:37:39,460 --> 03:37:40,400
And I'll tell you then

8930
03:37:40,400 --> 03:37:41,440
if it fits with my budget.

8931
03:37:41,440 --> 03:37:42,400
It's good stuff.

8932
03:37:42,400 --> 03:37:42,840
Any job.

8933
03:37:43,040 --> 03:37:44,040
But you're not on a retainer?

8934
03:37:44,540 --> 03:37:45,180
Not at all.

8935
03:37:45,460 --> 03:37:45,880
And do you...

8936
03:37:45,880 --> 03:37:46,280
Not at all.

8937
03:37:46,300 --> 03:37:46,800
And last question.

8938
03:37:47,020 --> 03:37:48,520
I'm very much transactional.

8939
03:37:48,520 --> 03:37:50,320
And my last question is,

8940
03:37:50,360 --> 03:37:50,860
and I'm not looking

8941
03:37:50,860 --> 03:37:51,660
specifically for you,

8942
03:37:51,700 --> 03:37:53,100
but have you coached

8943
03:37:53,100 --> 03:37:54,520
any other public

8944
03:37:54,520 --> 03:37:56,480
representatives

8945
03:37:56,480 --> 03:37:58,060
from other political parties?

8946
03:37:58,400 --> 03:37:59,260
Definitely not going to talk

8947
03:37:59,260 --> 03:37:59,880
about that.

8948
03:37:59,940 --> 03:38:01,660
I actually think now

8949
03:38:01,660 --> 03:38:03,720
that the car park stuff

8950
03:38:03,720 --> 03:38:06,340
was a masterstroke.

8951
03:38:06,900 --> 03:38:07,700
I'll tell you why.

8952
03:38:08,140 --> 03:38:09,960
It completely and utterly

8953
03:38:09,960 --> 03:38:11,760
derailed the situation

8954
03:38:11,760 --> 03:38:13,550
and turned down the heat yet

8955
03:38:13,550 --> 03:38:14,020
again

8956
03:38:14,020 --> 03:38:16,580
from six to about three.

8957
03:38:17,960 --> 03:38:18,280
everybody,

8958
03:38:18,280 --> 03:38:18,400
everybody,

8959
03:38:18,520 --> 03:38:19,980
once they heard about that app

8960
03:38:19,980 --> 03:38:21,300
that dealt with car parks,

8961
03:38:22,300 --> 03:38:23,680
knew at that moment

8962
03:38:23,680 --> 03:38:25,900
that the air had been let out

8963
03:38:25,900 --> 03:38:26,500
of the balloon.

8964
03:38:28,160 --> 03:38:28,660
And Ivan,

8965
03:38:28,920 --> 03:38:29,540
yet again,

8966
03:38:29,760 --> 03:38:31,300
had managed to escape

8967
03:38:31,300 --> 03:38:33,440
a roundhouse

8968
03:38:33,440 --> 03:38:35,780
from the kangaroo court.

8969
03:38:36,580 --> 03:38:37,360
Mammy Yates,

8970
03:38:37,540 --> 03:38:38,540
thank you very much there

8971
03:38:38,540 --> 03:38:39,200
for the tip.

8972
03:38:40,720 --> 03:38:42,680
it must be nearly done here.

8973
03:38:43,880 --> 03:38:44,740
And there's no,

8974
03:38:45,160 --> 03:38:46,300
the player on the Eructus

8975
03:38:46,300 --> 03:38:46,780
player

8976
03:38:46,780 --> 03:38:47,500
just doesn't,

8977
03:38:47,640 --> 03:38:49,340
doesn't show you any thumbnails

8978
03:38:49,340 --> 03:38:49,960
as to when,

8979
03:38:50,120 --> 03:38:50,700
when it ends.

8980
03:38:50,980 --> 03:38:52,000
It's definitely not going to go

8981
03:38:52,000 --> 03:38:52,120
on

8982
03:38:52,120 --> 03:38:52,720
for three hours.

8983
03:38:52,820 --> 03:38:54,600
It ends roughly around here,

8984
03:38:54,640 --> 03:38:55,080
I think.

8985
03:38:55,280 --> 03:38:55,760
I hope.

8986
03:38:56,160 --> 03:38:56,920
he had to be answered.

8987
03:38:57,720 --> 03:38:59,100
Thanks very much,

8988
03:38:59,160 --> 03:38:59,360
Chair.

8989
03:38:59,540 --> 03:39:00,040
Another sip.

8990
03:39:00,040 --> 03:39:00,300
You're welcome.

8991
03:39:01,160 --> 03:39:02,260
Mr. Yates to the meeting.

8992
03:39:04,220 --> 03:39:04,980
Energy low?

8993
03:39:05,300 --> 03:39:05,660
Questions?

8994
03:39:05,900 --> 03:39:06,580
Low energy.

8995
03:39:06,680 --> 03:39:07,160
Straight out.

8996
03:39:08,720 --> 03:39:09,820
Prior 2024,

8997
03:39:10,020 --> 03:39:10,500
general election,

8998
03:39:10,760 --> 03:39:11,280
just sort of,

8999
03:39:11,600 --> 03:39:13,030
done reviews of every

9000
03:39:13,030 --> 03:39:14,160
constituency,

9001
03:39:14,580 --> 03:39:15,600
and just maybe to put it on the

9002
03:39:15,600 --> 03:39:16,020
record,

9003
03:39:16,200 --> 03:39:18,780
that you weren't doing any work

9004
03:39:18,780 --> 03:39:19,720
with any of the candidates

9005
03:39:19,720 --> 03:39:20,440
that was a candidate

9006
03:39:20,440 --> 03:39:22,220
within that general election,

9007
03:39:22,400 --> 03:39:24,660
prior to giving your views

9008
03:39:24,660 --> 03:39:26,360
on the podcast.

9009
03:39:26,660 --> 03:39:26,760
So,

9010
03:39:27,280 --> 03:39:29,320
on Longford-Brest-Mede,

9011
03:39:29,520 --> 03:39:30,500
and all of that,

9012
03:39:30,840 --> 03:39:32,420
the situation is that,

9013
03:39:32,560 --> 03:39:34,560
my prediction,

9014
03:39:34,860 --> 03:39:36,240
that you mightn't get elected,

9015
03:39:36,520 --> 03:39:37,580
on that occasion,

9016
03:39:37,920 --> 03:39:38,900
and that Fianna Fáil would

9017
03:39:38,900 --> 03:39:39,580
hold that seat.

9018
03:39:39,880 --> 03:39:40,800
I got that wrong,

9019
03:39:41,160 --> 03:39:42,300
but it had nothing to do

9020
03:39:42,300 --> 03:39:43,740
with any relationship,

9021
03:39:44,040 --> 03:39:45,260
I had of a training nature,

9022
03:39:45,360 --> 03:39:45,840
with anyone.

9023
03:39:46,180 --> 03:39:46,980
I called that,

9024
03:39:47,220 --> 03:39:47,340
so,

9025
03:39:47,580 --> 03:39:48,160
the nature,

9026
03:39:48,360 --> 03:39:49,500
I would talk to a lot of people,

9027
03:39:49,560 --> 03:39:50,860
I'd talk to former TDs,

9028
03:39:51,100 --> 03:39:51,780
and in fact,

9029
03:39:52,240 --> 03:39:53,300
if I'm guilty of anything,

9030
03:39:53,300 --> 03:39:54,900
is I'm the best back-channeler

9031
03:39:54,900 --> 03:39:55,400
in the business.

9032
03:39:55,560 --> 03:39:56,480
I like politicians,

9033
03:39:56,780 --> 03:39:58,060
I don't really like journalists,

9034
03:39:58,420 --> 03:40:00,120
I empathise with them,

9035
03:40:00,180 --> 03:40:00,780
I understand,

9036
03:40:01,240 --> 03:40:01,460
you know,

9037
03:40:01,480 --> 03:40:03,140
how insecure their situation is,

9038
03:40:03,480 --> 03:40:04,760
and the reason why,

9039
03:40:04,860 --> 03:40:06,620
that's who you are,

9040
03:40:06,720 --> 03:40:07,840
that's what this is,

9041
03:40:07,840 --> 03:40:09,620
and they don't like it,

9042
03:40:09,900 --> 03:40:10,920
and they hate to see,

9043
03:40:11,240 --> 03:40:12,100
a back-channeler,

9044
03:40:12,520 --> 03:40:13,100
doing the,

9045
03:40:13,180 --> 03:40:14,780
the work of the gods,

9046
03:40:15,500 --> 03:40:16,250
the best back-channeler in the

9047
03:40:16,250 --> 03:40:16,860
business,

9048
03:40:17,340 --> 03:40:18,180
and that's why,

9049
03:40:18,300 --> 03:40:18,980
they've got him here,

9050
03:40:19,360 --> 03:40:20,160
because they're envious,

9051
03:40:20,280 --> 03:40:21,080
they don't like it,

9052
03:40:21,620 --> 03:40:22,680
they don't like it,

9053
03:40:23,240 --> 03:40:24,360
they wanted this,

9054
03:40:24,440 --> 03:40:25,520
they wanted this to be,

9055
03:40:25,680 --> 03:40:26,460
the moment,

9056
03:40:26,620 --> 03:40:27,260
the back-channeler,

9057
03:40:27,620 --> 03:40:28,040
became,

9058
03:40:29,180 --> 03:40:30,000
centre stage,

9059
03:40:30,340 --> 03:40:31,720
and stripped of that title,

9060
03:40:32,660 --> 03:40:33,340
but we're witnessing,

9061
03:40:33,340 --> 03:40:36,060
the exact opposite here,

9062
03:40:36,520 --> 03:40:37,200
Darren Mack,

9063
03:40:37,920 --> 03:40:38,620
thank you very,

9064
03:40:38,800 --> 03:40:39,720
very much for the tip,

9065
03:40:39,820 --> 03:40:40,500
very kind of you.

9066
03:40:40,620 --> 03:40:42,260
The reason why Path to Power,

9067
03:40:42,480 --> 03:40:43,800
outstripped all,

9068
03:40:44,140 --> 03:40:45,340
the mainline podcasts,

9069
03:40:46,180 --> 03:40:46,320
Yeah.

9070
03:40:46,320 --> 03:40:47,100
from the Independent,

9071
03:40:47,280 --> 03:40:47,720
and the Times,

9072
03:40:47,820 --> 03:40:48,020
and that,

9073
03:40:48,300 --> 03:40:48,720
was,

9074
03:40:49,120 --> 03:40:50,240
we know why,

9075
03:40:50,340 --> 03:40:50,840
we know why.

9076
03:40:50,900 --> 03:40:51,900
Because I was able,

9077
03:40:51,900 --> 03:40:53,000
to back-channel people,

9078
03:40:53,280 --> 03:40:54,280
because they trusted me,

9079
03:40:54,560 --> 03:40:55,620
that if they told me something,

9080
03:40:55,740 --> 03:40:56,100
I would say,

9081
03:40:56,180 --> 03:40:56,900
it's my opinion,

9082
03:40:57,220 --> 03:40:58,280
not like a journalist,

9083
03:40:58,640 --> 03:40:59,940
where it's unattributed,

9084
03:41:00,060 --> 03:41:00,440
or whatever,

9085
03:41:00,780 --> 03:41:01,680
and that,

9086
03:41:01,820 --> 03:41:02,420
is something,

9087
03:41:02,420 --> 03:41:03,280
that I believe,

9088
03:41:03,360 --> 03:41:04,360
I have a real talent for.

9089
03:41:04,900 --> 03:41:05,640
Lovely stuff.

9090
03:41:06,160 --> 03:41:07,640
Setting the stall out,

9091
03:41:07,900 --> 03:41:08,440
you can't,

9092
03:41:08,740 --> 03:41:09,140
argue,

9093
03:41:09,540 --> 03:41:09,840
with,

9094
03:41:10,240 --> 03:41:10,600
that.

9095
03:41:11,020 --> 03:41:11,520
I suppose,

9096
03:41:11,580 --> 03:41:12,060
specifically,

9097
03:41:12,240 --> 03:41:12,920
but I will say,

9098
03:41:13,000 --> 03:41:13,660
I'm going to thank you.

9099
03:41:14,500 --> 03:41:15,160
I did you a favour.

9100
03:41:15,800 --> 03:41:16,080
I,

9101
03:41:16,200 --> 03:41:16,520
I,

9102
03:41:16,520 --> 03:41:16,800
I,

9103
03:41:16,800 --> 03:41:17,800
People hate when I say,

9104
03:41:17,880 --> 03:41:18,440
you're going to get elected.

9105
03:41:18,440 --> 03:41:18,760
I,

9106
03:41:18,760 --> 03:41:20,020
I kept that podcast,

9107
03:41:20,140 --> 03:41:20,840
and I listened to it,

9108
03:41:20,840 --> 03:41:21,700
every single night,

9109
03:41:22,060 --> 03:41:22,740
in the lead up,

9110
03:41:22,800 --> 03:41:23,700
to the general election.

9111
03:41:23,940 --> 03:41:24,220
Deputy,

9112
03:41:24,440 --> 03:41:25,140
on questions.

9113
03:41:25,420 --> 03:41:25,620
Questions.

9114
03:41:25,720 --> 03:41:25,840
Oh,

9115
03:41:25,880 --> 03:41:26,260
but I just.

9116
03:41:26,800 --> 03:41:27,160
Questions.

9117
03:41:27,880 --> 03:41:28,240
And,

9118
03:41:28,440 --> 03:41:28,580
it,

9119
03:41:28,700 --> 03:41:28,860
it.

9120
03:41:30,220 --> 03:41:31,460
And your success was deserved.

9121
03:41:31,500 --> 03:41:31,740
Sorry.

9122
03:41:32,080 --> 03:41:32,780
Can we get on with a question?

9123
03:41:32,880 --> 03:41:33,040
No,

9124
03:41:33,120 --> 03:41:33,760
just to say,

9125
03:41:33,840 --> 03:41:34,100
thank you.

9126
03:41:34,920 --> 03:41:35,280
Look,

9127
03:41:35,540 --> 03:41:36,360
I think this,

9128
03:41:36,660 --> 03:41:37,200
whole issue.

9129
03:41:37,380 --> 03:41:38,100
What's going on here?

9130
03:41:38,120 --> 03:41:38,540
First of all,

9131
03:41:38,720 --> 03:41:39,360
thank you for coming.

9132
03:41:39,600 --> 03:41:40,260
Others were asked,

9133
03:41:40,380 --> 03:41:40,800
didn't come.

9134
03:41:40,980 --> 03:41:41,320
You're being,

9135
03:41:41,420 --> 03:41:42,160
refreshingly honest,

9136
03:41:42,320 --> 03:41:42,780
and in your,

9137
03:41:43,220 --> 03:41:44,180
your introductory,

9138
03:41:44,700 --> 03:41:45,060
statement,

9139
03:41:45,380 --> 03:41:45,960
I think is very,

9140
03:41:46,020 --> 03:41:46,640
thought-provoking,

9141
03:41:46,740 --> 03:41:47,140
and honest.

9142
03:41:47,760 --> 03:41:48,600
I've always had a view,

9143
03:41:48,700 --> 03:41:49,520
that you shoot from the hip,

9144
03:41:49,800 --> 03:41:50,560
you give your opinions,

9145
03:41:50,640 --> 03:41:51,160
that you see it,

9146
03:41:51,460 --> 03:41:52,500
and I think that's refreshing.

9147
03:41:52,940 --> 03:41:54,060
They need to,

9148
03:41:54,140 --> 03:41:55,400
just on a side note,

9149
03:41:55,580 --> 03:41:56,740
maybe address,

9150
03:41:56,800 --> 03:41:57,560
some of the markings,

9151
03:41:57,860 --> 03:41:59,040
on the wall side,

9152
03:41:59,140 --> 03:42:00,420
of the committee room,

9153
03:42:00,580 --> 03:42:00,820
there.

9154
03:42:01,120 --> 03:42:02,820
it's lowering the tone,

9155
03:42:03,200 --> 03:42:04,340
and it's not befitting,

9156
03:42:04,560 --> 03:42:05,680
of the Oireachtas at all.

9157
03:42:06,000 --> 03:42:06,180
So,

9158
03:42:06,760 --> 03:42:07,560
just a cloth,

9159
03:42:07,720 --> 03:42:08,180
or something,

9160
03:42:08,340 --> 03:42:09,040
a J cloth,

9161
03:42:09,320 --> 03:42:09,460
or,

9162
03:42:10,660 --> 03:42:11,630
get someone to have a look at

9163
03:42:11,630 --> 03:42:12,220
that,

9164
03:42:12,300 --> 03:42:12,620
guys,

9165
03:42:12,660 --> 03:42:13,200
if you can.

9166
03:42:14,620 --> 03:42:15,180
Because it's,

9167
03:42:15,180 --> 03:42:16,520
it's actually taking the heat,

9168
03:42:16,520 --> 03:42:17,320
out of this man,

9169
03:42:18,320 --> 03:42:20,160
stuff that he's saying.

9170
03:42:20,300 --> 03:42:20,660
Refreshing,

9171
03:42:21,080 --> 03:42:21,440
in,

9172
03:42:22,100 --> 03:42:22,640
commentary,

9173
03:42:22,900 --> 03:42:23,100
that,

9174
03:42:23,160 --> 03:42:23,880
that you see,

9175
03:42:24,000 --> 03:42:24,460
on the radio.

9176
03:42:24,500 --> 03:42:24,840
And I think,

9177
03:42:25,500 --> 03:42:25,700
you know,

9178
03:42:25,760 --> 03:42:26,900
it's positive that now,

9179
03:42:27,020 --> 03:42:28,140
when we've had our discussion,

9180
03:42:28,260 --> 03:42:29,220
and we think that,

9181
03:42:29,340 --> 03:42:29,560
you know,

9182
03:42:29,620 --> 03:42:30,580
the care of the commission,

9183
03:42:30,740 --> 03:42:31,080
the man,

9184
03:42:31,380 --> 03:42:32,020
that they're now,

9185
03:42:32,180 --> 03:42:32,840
reviewing into.

9186
03:42:33,160 --> 03:42:34,660
This is committee room three,

9187
03:42:34,860 --> 03:42:35,680
and somebody says,

9188
03:42:35,740 --> 03:42:37,440
you would not see such markings,

9189
03:42:37,560 --> 03:42:38,880
in committee room one.

9190
03:42:39,160 --> 03:42:39,900
The whole area,

9191
03:42:40,060 --> 03:42:40,920
across this area,

9192
03:42:41,020 --> 03:42:41,620
and it's highlighted,

9193
03:42:42,160 --> 03:42:42,540
you know,

9194
03:42:42,600 --> 03:42:43,460
the fact that,

9195
03:42:43,780 --> 03:42:44,060
I suppose,

9196
03:42:44,420 --> 03:42:45,640
podcasts weren't technically

9197
03:42:45,640 --> 03:42:46,120
covered,

9198
03:42:46,200 --> 03:42:46,860
under certain,

9199
03:42:48,120 --> 03:42:48,480
I suppose,

9200
03:42:48,600 --> 03:42:49,060
legislation,

9201
03:42:49,180 --> 03:42:50,020
or whatever you may put.

9202
03:42:50,300 --> 03:42:50,520
So,

9203
03:42:50,560 --> 03:42:51,410
I think it's actually turned

9204
03:42:51,410 --> 03:42:51,640
out,

9205
03:42:51,700 --> 03:42:51,980
to be,

9206
03:42:52,400 --> 03:42:53,180
actually timely.

9207
03:42:54,040 --> 03:42:54,320
And,

9208
03:42:54,440 --> 03:42:54,880
that now,

9209
03:42:55,080 --> 03:42:55,760
with the broadcast,

9210
03:42:55,880 --> 03:42:57,640
that we can,

9211
03:42:57,720 --> 03:42:58,040
I suppose,

9212
03:42:58,180 --> 03:42:58,900
significantly,

9213
03:42:59,100 --> 03:42:59,260
maybe,

9214
03:42:59,380 --> 03:43:00,240
tighten up areas,

9215
03:43:00,360 --> 03:43:00,660
that might,

9216
03:43:00,960 --> 03:43:02,000
might have been,

9217
03:43:02,180 --> 03:43:03,320
considered loose.

9218
03:43:03,440 --> 03:43:03,560
But,

9219
03:43:03,960 --> 03:43:04,380
and I think,

9220
03:43:04,440 --> 03:43:05,680
and I've done a lot of work,

9221
03:43:06,000 --> 03:43:07,100
I was in this committee,

9222
03:43:07,220 --> 03:43:08,300
for the previous five years.

9223
03:43:08,620 --> 03:43:09,140
My God,

9224
03:43:09,140 --> 03:43:09,420
man,

9225
03:43:09,820 --> 03:43:10,160
I mean,

9226
03:43:10,480 --> 03:43:11,860
there's no,

9227
03:43:12,100 --> 03:43:14,460
unanimity,

9228
03:43:14,680 --> 03:43:14,940
or,

9229
03:43:15,120 --> 03:43:16,180
amongst any of them.

9230
03:43:16,240 --> 03:43:17,040
I know that they're from,

9231
03:43:17,040 --> 03:43:18,020
differing parties,

9232
03:43:18,240 --> 03:43:19,160
and what not.

9233
03:43:19,740 --> 03:43:20,580
But you have some,

9234
03:43:20,660 --> 03:43:21,480
that go easy,

9235
03:43:22,000 --> 03:43:23,140
on the 8th Bomb.

9236
03:43:23,640 --> 03:43:24,540
And then you have a few,

9237
03:43:24,540 --> 03:43:25,620
firebrands.

9238
03:43:26,440 --> 03:43:26,800
And,

9239
03:43:26,880 --> 03:43:29,280
they should maybe,

9240
03:43:29,280 --> 03:43:29,780
have,

9241
03:43:30,640 --> 03:43:31,500
had a chat,

9242
03:43:31,920 --> 03:43:32,440
before,

9243
03:43:32,700 --> 03:43:32,960
and said,

9244
03:43:33,040 --> 03:43:33,240
look,

9245
03:43:33,340 --> 03:43:33,580
let's,

9246
03:43:33,680 --> 03:43:34,920
let's try and at least,

9247
03:43:35,400 --> 03:43:36,560
galvanize here.

9248
03:43:37,060 --> 03:43:37,740
And all,

9249
03:43:38,040 --> 03:43:38,820
come out swinging.

9250
03:43:39,460 --> 03:43:39,680
But,

9251
03:43:39,780 --> 03:43:40,760
you're just not going to get

9252
03:43:40,760 --> 03:43:41,120
that,

9253
03:43:41,200 --> 03:43:41,720
which again,

9254
03:43:42,040 --> 03:43:42,960
kind of highlights,

9255
03:43:43,540 --> 03:43:43,940
how,

9256
03:43:44,480 --> 03:43:44,940
useless,

9257
03:43:45,140 --> 03:43:46,140
the whole thing is.

9258
03:43:48,140 --> 03:43:48,620
Especially,

9259
03:43:48,780 --> 03:43:49,880
you're nearing the end here.

9260
03:43:51,160 --> 03:43:52,880
it's just whittling down time.

9261
03:43:52,880 --> 03:43:54,680
You know,

9262
03:43:54,740 --> 03:43:56,360
reviews into the future of

9263
03:43:56,360 --> 03:43:56,920
media,

9264
03:43:57,120 --> 03:43:58,600
was very supportive of,

9265
03:43:59,320 --> 03:44:01,800
particularly local journalists,

9266
03:44:02,020 --> 03:44:03,460
in our regional newspapers,

9267
03:44:03,680 --> 03:44:05,180
and our regional radio stations,

9268
03:44:05,180 --> 03:44:06,540
to make sure we support them.

9269
03:44:07,380 --> 03:44:07,440
And,

9270
03:44:07,500 --> 03:44:07,900
you know,

9271
03:44:07,900 --> 03:44:08,910
significant funding came

9272
03:44:08,910 --> 03:44:10,020
through the Local Democracy

9273
03:44:10,020 --> 03:44:10,340
Fund,

9274
03:44:10,420 --> 03:44:11,320
because the reality is,

9275
03:44:11,960 --> 03:44:13,750
significant high percentage of

9276
03:44:13,750 --> 03:44:14,940
Irish people,

9277
03:44:15,100 --> 03:44:16,420
trust our mainstream media.

9278
03:44:16,540 --> 03:44:17,140
And it's important,

9279
03:44:17,780 --> 03:44:19,220
that that continues.

9280
03:44:19,340 --> 03:44:20,040
And it's important,

9281
03:44:20,720 --> 03:44:22,620
that governments support,

9282
03:44:22,620 --> 03:44:23,240
those,

9283
03:44:23,800 --> 03:44:26,200
radio stations,

9284
03:44:26,640 --> 03:44:27,780
television stations,

9285
03:44:28,460 --> 03:44:29,340
regional newspapers,

9286
03:44:29,500 --> 03:44:30,440
regional radio stations,

9287
03:44:30,900 --> 03:44:31,660
that give us,

9288
03:44:31,820 --> 03:44:31,960
that,

9289
03:44:32,560 --> 03:44:32,740
through,

9290
03:44:32,940 --> 03:44:33,680
through commentary,

9291
03:44:33,860 --> 03:44:34,180
and not,

9292
03:44:34,580 --> 03:44:35,080
a lot of the negative

9293
03:44:35,080 --> 03:44:35,760
commentary,

9294
03:44:36,320 --> 03:44:36,880
that,

9295
03:44:37,120 --> 03:44:38,560
we get online.

9296
03:44:39,840 --> 03:44:41,040
Just in relation to,

9297
03:44:41,180 --> 03:44:41,500
I suppose,

9298
03:44:41,620 --> 03:44:42,680
like the presidential campaign,

9299
03:44:43,020 --> 03:44:44,340
and Deputy Brendan mentioned.

9300
03:44:44,540 --> 03:44:45,300
Can I make one point,

9301
03:44:45,340 --> 03:44:46,040
about local radio?

9302
03:44:46,160 --> 03:44:47,600
I think the biggest impact,

9303
03:44:47,960 --> 03:44:48,800
of the regulatory,

9304
03:44:49,040 --> 03:44:49,560
controlling,

9305
03:44:49,680 --> 03:44:50,480
is,

9306
03:44:50,480 --> 03:44:50,800
is,

9307
03:44:50,800 --> 03:44:52,300
is back in control again.

9308
03:44:53,260 --> 03:44:53,780
You could sense,

9309
03:44:53,900 --> 03:44:54,120
that there was,

9310
03:44:54,220 --> 03:44:55,100
that was going nowhere.

9311
03:44:56,220 --> 03:44:57,300
Yeast just picks it up,

9312
03:44:57,400 --> 03:44:57,660
and says,

9313
03:44:57,740 --> 03:44:57,880
look,

9314
03:44:57,960 --> 03:44:59,040
this is what I need to say,

9315
03:44:59,120 --> 03:44:59,980
this is what I have to say,

9316
03:45:00,080 --> 03:45:00,180
it's,

9317
03:45:00,260 --> 03:45:00,640
it's perfect.

9318
03:45:00,960 --> 03:45:01,900
will destroy,

9319
03:45:02,140 --> 03:45:02,800
local radio.

9320
03:45:03,080 --> 03:45:04,140
We've seen this in the UK,

9321
03:45:04,680 --> 03:45:06,100
where BBC withdrew,

9322
03:45:06,400 --> 03:45:07,160
but the reality is,

9323
03:45:07,160 --> 03:45:07,180
This is,

9324
03:45:07,180 --> 03:45:08,300
this is ideology,

9325
03:45:08,420 --> 03:45:08,740
right here.

9326
03:45:08,760 --> 03:45:09,960
200 euro,

9327
03:45:10,340 --> 03:45:11,090
where they'd be getting paid

9328
03:45:11,090 --> 03:45:11,660
500,

9329
03:45:11,780 --> 03:45:12,720
on national radio.

9330
03:45:13,040 --> 03:45:13,260
They,

9331
03:45:13,600 --> 03:45:14,840
cannot live on that.

9332
03:45:15,180 --> 03:45:16,460
There are more conflicts,

9333
03:45:16,540 --> 03:45:17,480
and more difficulties,

9334
03:45:17,480 --> 03:45:18,640
with part-timers,

9335
03:45:18,720 --> 03:45:19,460
and local radio,

9336
03:45:19,760 --> 03:45:20,500
and to put an,

9337
03:45:20,500 --> 03:45:21,180
onerous,

9338
03:45:21,560 --> 03:45:22,640
regulatory regime,

9339
03:45:22,740 --> 03:45:23,480
on local radio,

9340
03:45:23,640 --> 03:45:25,220
will close it down,

9341
03:45:25,500 --> 03:45:26,360
because they're depending,

9342
03:45:26,480 --> 03:45:27,540
on voluntary contributors.

9343
03:45:28,220 --> 03:45:28,340
Yeah.

9344
03:45:28,840 --> 03:45:29,540
Now I think it's a,

9345
03:45:29,840 --> 03:45:30,600
beautiful stuff,

9346
03:45:30,720 --> 03:45:31,020
and that,

9347
03:45:31,100 --> 03:45:32,420
that will have shut everyone up

9348
03:45:32,420 --> 03:45:32,680
there.

9349
03:45:32,680 --> 03:45:33,640
I,

9350
03:45:33,760 --> 03:45:34,900
I even saw someone,

9351
03:45:35,380 --> 03:45:36,180
hover across,

9352
03:45:36,300 --> 03:45:37,180
to another minister,

9353
03:45:37,560 --> 03:45:38,420
hurriedly,

9354
03:45:38,500 --> 03:45:39,280
kind of worried,

9355
03:45:39,420 --> 03:45:40,560
that this was going nowhere.

9356
03:45:40,880 --> 03:45:41,400
I wonder,

9357
03:45:41,500 --> 03:45:42,360
do they have anything,

9358
03:45:42,600 --> 03:45:43,020
final,

9359
03:45:43,480 --> 03:45:44,380
to just bring out,

9360
03:45:44,440 --> 03:45:44,980
any sort of,

9361
03:45:44,980 --> 03:45:46,020
finishing move,

9362
03:45:46,540 --> 03:45:47,280
at all.

9363
03:45:48,280 --> 03:45:49,140
Scrotal recall,

9364
03:45:49,380 --> 03:45:50,200
thank you very much,

9365
03:45:50,400 --> 03:45:50,820
for the tip,

9366
03:45:50,880 --> 03:45:51,880
I hope you're getting on well,

9367
03:45:52,180 --> 03:45:53,480
and the Yatesmeister,

9368
03:45:54,100 --> 03:45:54,520
very,

9369
03:45:54,660 --> 03:45:55,220
very kind of you,

9370
03:45:55,280 --> 03:45:56,080
thank you very much,

9371
03:45:56,140 --> 03:45:56,680
for the tip there.

9372
03:45:56,680 --> 03:45:58,620
I hope you're doing well,

9373
03:45:59,320 --> 03:46:00,500
nearing the end here.

9374
03:46:00,760 --> 03:46:01,760
That's an important point,

9375
03:46:01,820 --> 03:46:02,880
that we continue to support.

9376
03:46:03,100 --> 03:46:04,160
You have to be strict,

9377
03:46:04,220 --> 03:46:04,940
with two and a half minutes,

9378
03:46:05,000 --> 03:46:05,720
because we have to go on both.

9379
03:46:06,300 --> 03:46:06,480
Yeah,

9380
03:46:06,580 --> 03:46:06,700
no,

9381
03:46:06,780 --> 03:46:07,640
and just in relation,

9382
03:46:07,880 --> 03:46:08,140
as well,

9383
03:46:08,260 --> 03:46:09,300
to the campaign,

9384
03:46:09,720 --> 03:46:10,500
and I think the words,

9385
03:46:10,580 --> 03:46:11,280
that I welcome the fact,

9386
03:46:11,340 --> 03:46:12,000
that you made the comments,

9387
03:46:12,040 --> 03:46:12,820
that you made earlier,

9388
03:46:12,920 --> 03:46:13,340
with regard,

9389
03:46:13,840 --> 03:46:14,820
to that,

9390
03:46:15,320 --> 03:46:16,200
comment of smearing,

9391
03:46:16,580 --> 03:46:17,920
the bejesus.

9392
03:46:19,340 --> 03:46:20,100
Ivan's HP,

9393
03:46:20,420 --> 03:46:21,520
isn't low enough,

9394
03:46:21,520 --> 03:46:22,640
for a finishing move.

9395
03:46:23,100 --> 03:46:23,780
It's too true,

9396
03:46:23,860 --> 03:46:24,800
even if they did hit him,

9397
03:46:24,880 --> 03:46:26,040
with something special now.

9398
03:46:26,040 --> 03:46:28,140
he's still fucking,

9399
03:46:28,360 --> 03:46:29,160
he's won the bout,

9400
03:46:29,440 --> 03:46:30,140
pound for pound,

9401
03:46:30,160 --> 03:46:31,240
round after round,

9402
03:46:31,380 --> 03:46:32,660
the score seemingly,

9403
03:46:32,980 --> 03:46:33,720
is unanimous.

9404
03:46:34,040 --> 03:46:35,900
It was a Yates fest.

9405
03:46:36,020 --> 03:46:36,420
He was,

9406
03:46:36,460 --> 03:46:37,020
and you were correct,

9407
03:46:37,080 --> 03:46:38,380
that was seized on,

9408
03:46:38,500 --> 03:46:39,640
by the Catherine Connolly

9409
03:46:39,640 --> 03:46:40,280
campaign,

9410
03:46:40,720 --> 03:46:41,420
and the thing used,

9411
03:46:41,540 --> 03:46:42,160
and blown up,

9412
03:46:42,280 --> 03:46:42,800
and amplified,

9413
03:46:43,760 --> 03:46:44,200
ultimately,

9414
03:46:44,400 --> 03:46:44,920
to damage,

9415
03:46:45,800 --> 03:46:47,160
the Feedy Gale candidate,

9416
03:46:47,280 --> 03:46:48,060
who was Heather Humphreys,

9417
03:46:48,560 --> 03:46:49,420
and it was,

9418
03:46:49,420 --> 03:46:50,220
out there,

9419
03:46:50,640 --> 03:46:51,980
across all platforms,

9420
03:46:52,120 --> 03:46:53,460
in the space of,

9421
03:46:53,760 --> 03:46:54,540
I'd say minutes,

9422
03:46:54,680 --> 03:46:55,400
hundreds of thousands,

9423
03:46:56,000 --> 03:46:56,620
of pages,

9424
03:46:56,780 --> 03:46:57,200
and shares,

9425
03:46:57,320 --> 03:46:57,920
or whatever it is,

9426
03:46:57,980 --> 03:46:58,990
across certain political

9427
03:46:58,990 --> 03:46:59,460
parties,

9428
03:47:00,000 --> 03:47:00,320
to,

9429
03:47:00,420 --> 03:47:01,780
make it out,

9430
03:47:01,880 --> 03:47:02,780
that this was,

9431
03:47:02,880 --> 03:47:03,620
something that,

9432
03:47:04,120 --> 03:47:04,900
Feedy Gale,

9433
03:47:05,020 --> 03:47:05,660
were behind.

9434
03:47:05,760 --> 03:47:06,400
And maybe you might just,

9435
03:47:06,520 --> 03:47:07,360
you probably might have said it

9436
03:47:07,360 --> 03:47:07,640
there,

9437
03:47:07,740 --> 03:47:08,700
or put on the record,

9438
03:47:09,180 --> 03:47:10,500
that that is not the case,

9439
03:47:10,780 --> 03:47:11,460
that it was not,

9440
03:47:11,780 --> 03:47:12,020
Anton.

9441
03:47:12,400 --> 03:47:13,280
What's going on?

9442
03:47:13,380 --> 03:47:14,380
I want to be absolutely clear.

9443
03:47:14,720 --> 03:47:15,460
What is going on?

9444
03:47:15,480 --> 03:47:16,600
This was a real difficulty,

9445
03:47:16,740 --> 03:47:17,340
starting on radio.

9446
03:47:17,420 --> 03:47:17,720
John,

9447
03:47:17,800 --> 03:47:18,600
thank you very much.

9448
03:47:18,660 --> 03:47:18,920
John.

9449
03:47:18,920 --> 03:47:21,000
I had to interview people,

9450
03:47:21,120 --> 03:47:21,660
that were friends,

9451
03:47:21,740 --> 03:47:22,640
and colleagues of mine,

9452
03:47:22,880 --> 03:47:23,480
and I had to be,

9453
03:47:23,600 --> 03:47:24,660
harder on them.

9454
03:47:24,980 --> 03:47:26,220
I resigned,

9455
03:47:26,360 --> 03:47:27,680
my membership of Fine Gael,

9456
03:47:27,760 --> 03:47:29,160
in April 2009.

9457
03:47:29,640 --> 03:47:30,920
I've had no contact,

9458
03:47:30,920 --> 03:47:31,940
with the party since.

9459
03:47:32,220 --> 03:47:32,540
In fact,

9460
03:47:32,620 --> 03:47:33,880
we've been giving out,

9461
03:47:33,880 --> 03:47:34,540
about each other,

9462
03:47:34,620 --> 03:47:35,140
ever since.

9463
03:47:36,420 --> 03:47:37,540
Thank you for your honesty,

9464
03:47:37,640 --> 03:47:38,280
and as I say,

9465
03:47:38,560 --> 03:47:40,140
as I say,

9466
03:47:40,240 --> 03:47:41,980
your opening statement,

9467
03:47:42,080 --> 03:47:43,500
I think is refreshingly honest,

9468
03:47:44,160 --> 03:47:45,340
and it's my view,

9469
03:47:45,400 --> 03:47:46,080
that any opinion,

9470
03:47:46,320 --> 03:47:46,960
that you've given,

9471
03:47:47,140 --> 03:47:47,780
and you've been,

9472
03:47:47,860 --> 03:47:48,540
can be controversial,

9473
03:47:48,680 --> 03:47:49,200
in your comments.

9474
03:47:49,800 --> 03:47:51,080
I think that's what we need,

9475
03:47:51,120 --> 03:47:51,660
we need talk,

9476
03:47:51,660 --> 03:47:52,940
talk provoking comments,

9477
03:47:53,040 --> 03:47:53,740
when it comes to.

9478
03:47:53,740 --> 03:47:54,260
Are we not,

9479
03:47:54,340 --> 03:47:55,240
are we not seeing,

9480
03:47:55,620 --> 03:47:56,940
an absolute undoing,

9481
03:47:57,040 --> 03:47:58,220
of the entire committee,

9482
03:47:58,700 --> 03:47:58,940
here,

9483
03:47:59,480 --> 03:48:00,880
with this fellow,

9484
03:48:01,020 --> 03:48:01,300
who's,

9485
03:48:02,020 --> 03:48:02,960
thanked Ivan,

9486
03:48:03,120 --> 03:48:04,180
for helping him get elected.

9487
03:48:04,380 --> 03:48:05,360
Am I getting that wrong?

9488
03:48:05,740 --> 03:48:06,520
The whole thing,

9489
03:48:06,580 --> 03:48:08,020
is to try and get Ivan,

9490
03:48:08,560 --> 03:48:10,140
on the conflict of interest.

9491
03:48:10,540 --> 03:48:11,400
But I think we've actually

9492
03:48:11,400 --> 03:48:11,980
managed,

9493
03:48:12,160 --> 03:48:13,440
we've transcended everything,

9494
03:48:14,180 --> 03:48:15,460
that was going well for them.

9495
03:48:15,780 --> 03:48:17,180
And they've gone to a TD,

9496
03:48:17,360 --> 03:48:17,800
who's going,

9497
03:48:18,160 --> 03:48:18,740
do you know what?

9498
03:48:19,240 --> 03:48:20,280
Thanks for getting me elected,

9499
03:48:20,580 --> 03:48:22,020
and I'm well done for coming,

9500
03:48:22,020 --> 03:48:22,960
and you're great.

9501
03:48:24,320 --> 03:48:25,260
They didn't,

9502
03:48:25,360 --> 03:48:26,920
I don't think they got together,

9503
03:48:27,240 --> 03:48:28,580
and decided what the,

9504
03:48:28,580 --> 03:48:30,340
the strategy was here.

9505
03:48:31,100 --> 03:48:32,260
Thank you very much there,

9506
03:48:32,580 --> 03:48:33,780
Catherine Coffley.

9507
03:48:34,460 --> 03:48:34,980
John,

9508
03:48:35,240 --> 03:48:36,360
and Chris D.

9509
03:48:36,600 --> 03:48:37,620
Thank you very much.

9510
03:48:38,080 --> 03:48:38,660
I would say,

9511
03:48:38,760 --> 03:48:39,900
it's a masterclass,

9512
03:48:40,120 --> 03:48:40,860
but,

9513
03:48:41,580 --> 03:48:42,080
I think,

9514
03:48:42,320 --> 03:48:43,820
they've actually been,

9515
03:48:43,920 --> 03:48:44,880
their own undoing.

9516
03:48:45,300 --> 03:48:46,440
The committee,

9517
03:48:47,320 --> 03:48:48,380
chosen here.

9518
03:48:49,020 --> 03:48:49,300
To,

9519
03:48:49,420 --> 03:48:49,640
to,

9520
03:48:49,640 --> 03:48:50,560
to politics,

9521
03:48:50,700 --> 03:48:51,620
so look at it as I say.

9522
03:48:53,260 --> 03:48:54,440
That's all my questions.

9523
03:48:54,440 --> 03:48:55,760
we're going to now,

9524
03:48:55,900 --> 03:48:57,460
suspend for the vote,

9525
03:48:57,660 --> 03:48:57,740
and,

9526
03:48:57,820 --> 03:48:58,240
that's it.

9527
03:48:58,320 --> 03:48:58,980
With your indulgence.

9528
03:48:59,320 --> 03:48:59,760
That's it.

9529
03:48:59,800 --> 03:49:00,440
That's okay with you.

9530
03:49:00,640 --> 03:49:01,700
It ended with,

9531
03:49:01,780 --> 03:49:03,260
everything that they were meant

9532
03:49:03,260 --> 03:49:03,960
to get him on,

9533
03:49:04,600 --> 03:49:05,440
it was shown,

9534
03:49:06,500 --> 03:49:07,400
back at them.

9535
03:49:07,780 --> 03:49:08,080
Do you know?

9536
03:49:09,380 --> 03:49:10,860
Absolute classic stuff.

9537
03:49:11,020 --> 03:49:11,120
You,

9538
03:49:11,180 --> 03:49:12,280
you couldn't write it,

9539
03:49:12,400 --> 03:49:14,100
if you were trying to satirise,

9540
03:49:14,320 --> 03:49:16,020
how ineffective,

9541
03:49:16,020 --> 03:49:17,160
these committee,

9542
03:49:17,280 --> 03:49:17,900
think,

9543
03:49:18,040 --> 03:49:18,840
meetings are.

9544
03:49:20,100 --> 03:49:20,540
And,

9545
03:49:20,540 --> 03:49:21,920
my good God,

9546
03:49:22,000 --> 03:49:23,100
did he even ask a question that

9547
03:49:23,100 --> 03:49:23,440
man?

9548
03:49:23,440 --> 03:49:24,160
I'm not sure.

9549
03:49:25,160 --> 03:49:25,640
Well,

9550
03:49:25,720 --> 03:49:26,480
it depends on the votes,

9551
03:49:26,580 --> 03:49:26,840
but yeah,

9552
03:49:26,900 --> 03:49:27,680
whatever that will be.

9553
03:49:27,920 --> 03:49:28,180
Okay,

9554
03:49:28,380 --> 03:49:29,000
thanks very much.

9555
03:49:29,120 --> 03:49:29,440
You're welcome.

9556
03:49:29,620 --> 03:49:30,040
That's it.

9557
03:49:33,080 --> 03:49:34,220
Unbelievable stuff.

9558
03:49:35,380 --> 03:49:35,860
Bizarre.

9559
03:49:36,940 --> 03:49:37,420
Concerning.

9560
03:49:37,980 --> 03:49:38,420
There were,

9561
03:49:38,420 --> 03:49:39,320
twists,

9562
03:49:39,920 --> 03:49:40,460
turns.

9563
03:49:41,860 --> 03:49:43,640
There was the Yates 1-2,

9564
03:49:44,080 --> 03:49:44,660
patented.

9565
03:49:45,400 --> 03:49:46,320
There was,

9566
03:49:46,740 --> 03:49:48,500
a few moments,

9567
03:49:48,800 --> 03:49:49,700
where he might,

9568
03:49:49,860 --> 03:49:51,360
have seemingly looked,

9569
03:49:51,420 --> 03:49:52,380
as though he never,

9570
03:49:52,460 --> 03:49:53,440
he didn't have the answers,

9571
03:49:53,560 --> 03:49:54,400
that we know him,

9572
03:49:54,400 --> 03:49:55,760
to have.

9573
03:49:57,360 --> 03:49:58,480
But all in all,

9574
03:49:59,340 --> 03:50:00,520
it was a shit show.

9575
03:50:01,320 --> 03:50:03,020
And a complete and utter,

9576
03:50:03,320 --> 03:50:04,260
waste of time.

9577
03:50:07,200 --> 03:50:07,720
Congratulations,

9578
03:50:08,520 --> 03:50:09,380
to the Yates Meister,

9579
03:50:09,580 --> 03:50:10,100
and also,

9580
03:50:10,340 --> 03:50:11,380
planting the seeds,

9581
03:50:11,900 --> 03:50:12,880
for what could be,

9582
03:50:13,000 --> 03:50:13,680
what would be,

9583
03:50:13,740 --> 03:50:14,600
and what should be,

9584
03:50:14,800 --> 03:50:15,440
a future,

9585
03:50:15,600 --> 03:50:16,200
independent,

9586
03:50:16,400 --> 03:50:17,440
podcast venture.

9587
03:50:17,860 --> 03:50:19,200
I don't believe his words,

9588
03:50:19,260 --> 03:50:19,700
when he says,

9589
03:50:19,760 --> 03:50:20,420
he's not going to go,

9590
03:50:20,460 --> 03:50:21,520
into broadcasting anymore.

9591
03:50:22,160 --> 03:50:23,260
He's too good for it.

9592
03:50:23,320 --> 03:50:24,380
Too good to stay away.

9593
03:50:24,380 --> 03:50:24,660
you know.

9594
03:50:25,840 --> 03:50:26,220
But,

9595
03:50:26,420 --> 03:50:27,320
thank you very much,

9596
03:50:27,660 --> 03:50:28,740
for joining me in this.

9597
03:50:28,820 --> 03:50:29,180
It was,

9598
03:50:29,800 --> 03:50:31,280
regardless of the takeaway,

9599
03:50:31,420 --> 03:50:32,080
of being a complete,

9600
03:50:32,140 --> 03:50:33,260
another waste of time,

9601
03:50:33,800 --> 03:50:35,000
to be able to witness,

9602
03:50:35,640 --> 03:50:36,400
the man in action,

9603
03:50:37,360 --> 03:50:38,820
under duress.

9604
03:50:39,840 --> 03:50:41,120
I know it didn't look like it,

9605
03:50:41,200 --> 03:50:41,440
but he,

9606
03:50:41,660 --> 03:50:41,840
you know,

9607
03:50:41,900 --> 03:50:42,360
there would have been,

9608
03:50:42,440 --> 03:50:43,860
a palpable feeling of,

9609
03:50:44,240 --> 03:50:44,540
you know,

9610
03:50:45,280 --> 03:50:45,860
like things,

9611
03:50:46,080 --> 03:50:47,300
the world was beginning,

9612
03:50:47,300 --> 03:50:48,500
to close in there.

9613
03:50:48,620 --> 03:50:50,300
he made mince meat of them.

9614
03:50:51,340 --> 03:50:52,500
He's the ringmaster.

9615
03:50:53,200 --> 03:50:54,180
You compare that,

9616
03:50:54,260 --> 03:50:55,080
with Tuberty,

9617
03:50:55,540 --> 03:50:57,000
a couple years ago,

9618
03:50:57,140 --> 03:50:58,520
it's night and day.

9619
03:50:59,080 --> 03:50:59,400
I mean,

9620
03:50:59,480 --> 03:51:00,820
he also didn't have the benefit,

9621
03:51:01,020 --> 03:51:01,340
of having,

9622
03:51:01,500 --> 03:51:03,020
his agent sat behind him,

9623
03:51:03,080 --> 03:51:03,660
just like that.

9624
03:51:04,840 --> 03:51:05,480
Can't remember,

9625
03:51:05,600 --> 03:51:06,820
if it was his agent,

9626
03:51:07,000 --> 03:51:08,380
or he had his solicitor there,

9627
03:51:08,460 --> 03:51:08,920
but there were,

9628
03:51:09,320 --> 03:51:10,520
there were handlers,

9629
03:51:10,900 --> 03:51:13,180
you can't handle the eights.

9630
03:51:13,660 --> 03:51:14,580
He's unhandleable,

9631
03:51:14,940 --> 03:51:15,660
unlabelable.

9632
03:51:17,120 --> 03:51:18,100
And he smeared,

9633
03:51:18,100 --> 03:51:19,540
he smeared the bejesus out of

9634
03:51:19,540 --> 03:51:19,940
them,

9635
03:51:20,580 --> 03:51:21,960
without actually smearing them.

9636
03:51:22,780 --> 03:51:23,980
But thank you very much,

9637
03:51:24,200 --> 03:51:24,960
for joining me,

9638
03:51:25,700 --> 03:51:26,040
on,

9639
03:51:26,140 --> 03:51:26,920
on this,

9640
03:51:26,980 --> 03:51:28,640
media debrief.

9641
03:51:29,280 --> 03:51:29,800
It's been,

9642
03:51:30,280 --> 03:51:30,920
eye opening,

9643
03:51:31,700 --> 03:51:33,360
an interesting experience,

9644
03:51:34,180 --> 03:51:34,560
and,

9645
03:51:34,680 --> 03:51:36,400
let's take those lessons,

9646
03:51:37,320 --> 03:51:38,380
and try,

9647
03:51:38,740 --> 03:51:39,540
to learn from them.

9648
03:51:39,540 --> 03:51:41,680
Ivan buddy,

9649
03:51:41,780 --> 03:51:42,260
if you're watching,

9650
03:51:42,460 --> 03:51:43,160
and I know you are,

9651
03:51:44,000 --> 03:51:44,680
can't wait to see,

9652
03:51:44,800 --> 03:51:45,640
what you do next buddy.

9653
03:51:46,180 --> 03:51:46,860
All the best.

9654
03:51:47,500 --> 03:51:48,160
Take it easy.

9655
03:51:48,700 --> 03:51:49,160
Good night.

9656
03:51:50,100 --> 03:51:50,960
Or afternoon.

9657
03:51:51,400 --> 03:51:51,980
And God bless.

9658
03:51:52,640 --> 03:51:53,380
Thank you very much.

9659
03:51:59,500 --> 03:52:00,540
See you later lads.

9660
03:52:00,540 --> 03:52:13,920
Leprechaun.

9661
03:52:13,920 --> 03:52:25,880
Leprechaun.

9662
03:52:25,880 --> 03:52:29,880
Leprechaun.

9663
03:52:29,880 --> 03:52:31,580
Leprechaun.

9664
03:52:32,120 --> 03:52:33,360
Leprechaun.

9665
03:52:33,880 --> 03:52:35,020
Leprechaun.

9666
03:52:35,440 --> 03:52:36,700
Leprechaun.

9667
03:52:37,360 --> 03:52:38,400
Leprechaun.

9668
03:52:38,600 --> 03:52:39,200
Leprechaun.

9669
03:52:39,420 --> 03:52:40,120
Leprechaun.

9670
03:52:40,320 --> 03:52:40,980
Leprechaun.

9671
03:52:41,160 --> 03:52:41,880
Leprechaun.

9672
03:52:41,880 --> 03:52:41,880
Leprechaun.

9673
03:52:41,880 --> 03:52:42,560
Leprechaun.

9674
03:52:42,560 --> 03:52:42,660
Leprechaun.

9675
03:52:42,660 --> 03:52:43,540
Leprechaun.

9676
03:52:43,540 --> 03:52:44,280
Leprechaun.

9677
03:52:44,280 --> 03:52:45,220
Leprechaun.

9678
03:52:45,220 --> 03:52:46,120
Leprechaun.

9679
03:52:46,120 --> 03:52:46,900
Leprechaun.

9680
03:52:46,900 --> 03:52:47,840
Leprechaun.

9681
03:52:47,840 --> 03:52:48,620
Leprechaun.

9682
03:52:48,620 --> 03:52:49,680
Who do you actually think you

9683
03:52:49,680 --> 03:52:50,000
are?

9684
03:52:50,000 --> 03:52:50,460
Leprechaun.

9685
03:52:50,460 --> 03:52:51,260
Leprechaun.

9686
03:52:51,260 --> 03:52:52,180
Leprechaun.

9687
03:52:52,180 --> 03:52:53,000
Leprechaun.

9688
03:52:53,000 --> 03:52:54,060
Who do you actually think you

9689
03:52:54,060 --> 03:52:54,360
are?

9690
03:52:54,360 --> 03:52:54,760
Leprechaun.

9691
03:52:54,760 --> 03:52:55,640
Leprechaun.

9692
03:52:55,640 --> 03:52:56,910
Who do you actually think you

9693
03:52:56,910 --> 03:52:57,260
are?

9694
03:52:57,260 --> 03:52:58,180
Leprechaun.

9695
03:52:58,180 --> 03:52:58,180
Leprechaun.

9696
03:52:58,180 --> 03:52:58,840
Leprechaun.

9697
03:52:58,840 --> 03:52:59,810
Who do you actually think you

9698
03:52:59,810 --> 03:53:00,100
are?