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Stay away from that rain

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The new Opal sequester

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Moondust

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Moondust

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Moondust is still a problem

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Moondust

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Moondust

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Moondust

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Moondust

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What is love?

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Baby, don't hurt me

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Don't hurt me

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You can't

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What is love?

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Baby, don't hurt me

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Don't hurt me

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You can't

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Whoa, whoa, whoa

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Whoa

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It's a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 situation

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A 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 situation

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A 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 situation.

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A 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

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It's a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 situation.

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A 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 situation.

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A 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 situation.

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A 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

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As they don't do it for 5.

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The Jibby Jab.

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Wastes of skin.

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The Jibby Jab.

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Sweaty fists.

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The Jibby Jab.

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Xanadu 2.0.

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The Jibby Jab.

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That succession of pricks.

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Evidence of their curiosity.

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And I'll keep on banging on.

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I said it was time to clear out

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the trash.

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And I mean it.

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Look, you've had a busy day of

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it.

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Look, you've had a busy day of

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it, okay?

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And you, more than anyone,

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should know that.

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You're a good guy.

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And they're trying to hold you

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down, okay?

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You just go to sleep.

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Like, look at the foot.

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That's it.

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That's, go to sleep.

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That's it, okay?

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And I'll, we'll do a stream.

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And once the stream is done,

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then we can have some pudding.

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Okay?

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No one, when we go on, okay?

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The stream's on!

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Fuck!

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Get that off.

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Get that off.

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Change that screen.

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How's it going, everyone?

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Just one second there.

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We've got a...

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The Jibby Jab.

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Wastes of skin.

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The Jibby Jab.

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Sweaty fists.

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The Jibby Jab.

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Xanadu 2.0.

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How's it going, everyone?

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Welcome back to the stream.

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It's great to have you back

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again.

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And I don't know what I'm going

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to do here.

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Don't mind that little bit of

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business there before.

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That was a mistake.

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Oh, we're the classic agnostic

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guys.

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It was just...

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I don't know.

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Maybe there was some video in

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the system

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that needed to come through the

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HDMI.

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that was trapped in the HDMI

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needed to process out

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before we skipped onto this.

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So I don't know what that was

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about.

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Thank you very much there, Conrad.

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And I need to say thank you to

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Blue Sky

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who tipped earlier on

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after the stream had finished.

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So it was one of these

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where I say thank you

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after the event has occurred.

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And you're probably not even

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watching now.

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Thank you very much, Conrad.

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Tell Fontaine whatever he did

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worked.

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I'm home and safe

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and not in a parade

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but float anymore.

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Yeah, that thing about that

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stream earlier on.

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We need to get that fella off

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the screen there.

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I was watching that

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and he's not even meant to be

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on.

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It's meant to be the Computer

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Chronicles.

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it is interesting

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that the brother of the killer

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of the Las Vegas shooting

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decided to go

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and just do those interviews.

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yeah, it's shock.

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it could happen to any one of

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us.

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But I also got a sense

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from just watching it there

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and I believe there's another

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even longer one

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that he was all,

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he was up for it.

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He really wanted to

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to be on camera as well.

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But at the same time,

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did he?

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I mean, there's shock involved

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in that as well.

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But still,

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fascinating set of

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circumstances,

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you know,

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no real motive or anything like

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that.

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Just someone can just fucking

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snap

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and then,

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you know,

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do everything that he did.

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I don't know.

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Would it be right or wrong to

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look at that?

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I'm not sure.

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I don't even know what I'm

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going to watch here.

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I had Fallout New Vegas

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also lined up to even play

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because I started that in

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earnest

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and I didn't finish it.

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I'm thinking of finishing that.

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Finito

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on New Vegas.

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Finito ergo sum.

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I finish,

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therefore,

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I am.

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But,

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I don't know whether or not to

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do that now

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or watch Computer Chronicles

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and then do the game after.

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or even maybe just have a quick

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look

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at the Las Vegas shooter's

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brother

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just to see if we can get any

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clues

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or try and gather any sort of

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information

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because it's still a case that

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needs solving,

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you know?

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and I think if we're to be on

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the case,

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oh yeah,

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we still have to watch the rest

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of

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Who Wants to Be a Millionaire.

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I didn't really want this to be

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a watching stuff

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sort of stream.

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I was very eager to get back

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into New Vegas.

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Also,

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I wouldn't mind playing Silent

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Hill 3 again

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even though I said I'd never

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play it again

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because I just think for a

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PlayStation 2 game,

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what an amazing game.

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What a fantastic,

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it stands the test of time.

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You know,

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piece that that is.

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it really looks great.

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And maybe starting it again

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with the save game file from

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the last one

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will give us some extra items.

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I'm not sure.

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I'm saying Silent Hill 3,

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not Silent Hill 2,

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the remake or anything like

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that,

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just 3 on the PlayStation 2 emulator.

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Play it on extra hard mode,

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says Brooklyn Luke.

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You know,

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it's just going to be a war of

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attrition.

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And what piqued my interest

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about that was

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the whole X-Files,

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the right to serve game

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from the PlayStation 2 from

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2004.

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I could see that they'd done

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certain things

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that they've tried to just take

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from Silent Hill

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and put into their own game,

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but they didn't really do it at

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all.

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They didn't execute it.

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It was terrible.

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It looked terrible.

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Do you know when you compare

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and contrast

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with what they did with Silent

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Hill?

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But anyways,

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let me just think here

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what it is we should best do.

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Every f***ing studio at night.

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Insurance companies.

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Producers.

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Thank you very much there,

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Kiki Stockhammer.

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And LR27102,

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Mr. and Mrs.

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Twisted.

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Pacework.

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Thank you very much there,

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lads,

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for your kind hardship.

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Very, very kind of you.

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Kiki Stockhammer says,

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lovely full version of P. Flynn

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on the late, late.

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A masterful moment.

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Always worth a revisit.

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They really are motivators.

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It sounds great,

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but not tonight.

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Although I might put it on the

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back burner.

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But I have to say,

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who wants to be a millionaire

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and needs to be finished?

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And that led me on to another

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situation

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that I was thinking of as well.

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Was the weakest link

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presented by Eamon Dunphy.

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I'm not sure if those videos

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are out there

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or if that media is still there,

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but it could be worth a revisit

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as well.

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Obviously, I haven't seen.

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If it is a Computer Chronicles

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stream,

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I haven't started with the patented

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Fat32 intro situation,

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which I'd like to do.

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I don't know.

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I really don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I really don't know.

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00:08:25,740 --> 00:08:26,740
I don't know.

301
00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:27,600
I don't know.

302
00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,400
I really am not sure.

303
00:08:29,500 --> 00:08:30,300
I'm not sure.

304
00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:31,320
I'm not sure.

305
00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:32,120
I don't know.

306
00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:33,180
I'm not sure.

307
00:08:33,460 --> 00:08:34,400
I'm not sure.

308
00:08:34,820 --> 00:08:35,660
I'm not sure.

309
00:08:36,220 --> 00:08:37,000
I'm not sure.

310
00:08:37,420 --> 00:08:38,670
I'm not sure what we're going

311
00:08:38,670 --> 00:08:39,080
to do.

312
00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:40,000
I'm not.

313
00:08:40,100 --> 00:08:42,160
I don't think we're going to do

314
00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,100
a video games situation.

315
00:08:44,420 --> 00:08:45,920
I want to play the video games.

316
00:08:45,980 --> 00:08:46,700
I don't think we'll do it,

317
00:08:46,700 --> 00:08:47,040
though.

318
00:08:47,100 --> 00:08:48,420
There's videos to watch, though.

319
00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:49,400
They're not games.

320
00:08:50,220 --> 00:08:51,240
I'm not sure.

321
00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:51,260
I'm not sure.

322
00:08:51,260 --> 00:08:53,220
I'm not sure.

323
00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,040
I'm really not sure.

324
00:08:56,340 --> 00:08:57,680
I'm not sure.

325
00:08:58,060 --> 00:08:58,780
I'm not sure.

326
00:08:58,960 --> 00:08:59,960
It's better to get on the

327
00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:00,820
stream and say,

328
00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,100
I'm not sure, isn't it?

329
00:09:02,100 --> 00:09:02,740
For minutes.

330
00:09:03,560 --> 00:09:04,840
It's better to get on the

331
00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,860
stream and just keep streaming.

332
00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:09,360
That's the main thing.

333
00:09:10,060 --> 00:09:10,770
BDevi, thank you very much

334
00:09:10,770 --> 00:09:11,880
there for the tip.

335
00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:13,720
Was that you in the big smoke

336
00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:14,820
today or a doppelganger?

337
00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:16,930
Unless the big smoke was Castle

338
00:09:16,930 --> 00:09:19,430
Bar, then you ain't seen me,

339
00:09:19,430 --> 00:09:20,200
baby.

340
00:09:20,980 --> 00:09:21,920
You ain't seen me.

341
00:09:22,380 --> 00:09:23,300
I seen the Burks.

342
00:09:23,620 --> 00:09:23,840
Is it?

343
00:09:24,340 --> 00:09:27,700
There's a pop-up Christian bookshop

344
00:09:27,700 --> 00:09:29,500
called Burks.

345
00:09:31,020 --> 00:09:32,180
Is that the Burks?

346
00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,340
And have they done their own

347
00:09:33,340 --> 00:09:34,000
pop-up shop?

348
00:09:34,500 --> 00:09:35,680
Interesting if they have.

349
00:09:37,460 --> 00:09:38,680
What else about Castle Bar did

350
00:09:38,680 --> 00:09:41,380
I think was interesting?

351
00:09:49,380 --> 00:09:49,730
Got some cabbages in Lidl, in

352
00:09:49,730 --> 00:09:51,820
Aldi.

353
00:09:52,680 --> 00:09:54,540
I bought a bottle of kombucha.

354
00:09:57,060 --> 00:09:58,470
And a chicken fucking chorizo

355
00:09:58,470 --> 00:10:00,380
or a...

356
00:10:00,380 --> 00:10:02,500
Chipotle rap.

357
00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:03,720
Chipotle.

358
00:10:05,940 --> 00:10:06,150
Chipotle rap from Aldi, which

359
00:10:06,150 --> 00:10:08,300
gave me heartburn after the

360
00:10:08,300 --> 00:10:09,020
chip.

361
00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,040
Thank you very much for the tip.

362
00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:13,180
Did you ever play Resi 3 Nemesis

363
00:10:13,180 --> 00:10:14,040
on PS1?

364
00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:14,540
Do you know what?

365
00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,650
That's one thing that did slip

366
00:10:16,650 --> 00:10:17,980
through the net.

367
00:10:19,580 --> 00:10:20,880
But mainly because my love for

368
00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,620
the series kind of...

369
00:10:23,620 --> 00:10:25,030
I gave it a go back in the day

370
00:10:25,030 --> 00:10:25,920
and I thought,

371
00:10:26,060 --> 00:10:27,140
this just isn't it.

372
00:10:27,820 --> 00:10:28,820
This is not it.

373
00:10:28,860 --> 00:10:30,340
But I'm sure maybe newcomers to

374
00:10:30,340 --> 00:10:32,080
the series at that time thought,

375
00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,320
this is fucking brilliant.

376
00:10:33,780 --> 00:10:35,700
But having played the 1 and 2,

377
00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,180
I just thought that it didn't

378
00:10:37,180 --> 00:10:38,680
really look like it was going

379
00:10:38,680 --> 00:10:40,040
to be an amazing thing.

380
00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:41,860
I played the remake a few years

381
00:10:41,860 --> 00:10:43,860
ago with the uncle on support.

382
00:10:44,380 --> 00:10:45,680
He was playing support network

383
00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:46,220
for me.

384
00:10:46,420 --> 00:10:46,820
Tom?

385
00:10:49,420 --> 00:10:50,320
and what's the story?

386
00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,460
Just spending my days

387
00:10:53,460 --> 00:10:55,000
reminiscing about the time I

388
00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:55,380
played

389
00:10:55,380 --> 00:10:56,900
a game on stream, you know?

390
00:10:58,360 --> 00:10:58,920
Yep.

391
00:10:59,300 --> 00:11:00,040
What was the game?

392
00:11:01,220 --> 00:11:03,050
It's the Resident Evil fucking

393
00:11:03,050 --> 00:11:03,460
3

394
00:11:03,460 --> 00:11:04,340
remake, you know.

395
00:11:06,140 --> 00:11:06,700
Great game.

396
00:11:07,220 --> 00:11:09,300
Fantastic game. Scary.

397
00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:11,620
Scary, it had action.

398
00:11:11,620 --> 00:11:12,800
It had pace.

399
00:11:13,580 --> 00:11:14,820
It had power.

400
00:11:16,140 --> 00:11:16,940
Great graphics.

401
00:11:18,940 --> 00:11:20,780
But it wasn't the best.

402
00:11:21,660 --> 00:11:22,960
In my honest opinion,

403
00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,220
I think 4 was the best.

404
00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:25,800
I've never played them myself.

405
00:11:26,660 --> 00:11:27,350
I don't like those kind of

406
00:11:27,350 --> 00:11:27,980
games.

407
00:11:29,140 --> 00:11:30,120
But watching you play them

408
00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,960
was like watching Mozart

409
00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,920
on the guitar.

410
00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:35,820
Fantastic bit of work.

411
00:11:36,940 --> 00:11:38,320
Thanks very much, Tom. It's

412
00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:38,820
great to have

413
00:11:38,820 --> 00:11:41,040
the support from you.

414
00:11:41,560 --> 00:11:42,900
4 original or 4 remake?

415
00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:45,540
Can't fucking remember, Nigel.

416
00:11:45,580 --> 00:11:46,340
They're both class.

417
00:11:47,180 --> 00:11:48,580
Do you know? What a remake.

418
00:11:48,580 --> 00:11:51,360
really opened my eyes

419
00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:52,660
to the world of remakes.

420
00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:53,960
The possibility is that they're

421
00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:54,240
not

422
00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:55,820
that shit as you first think

423
00:11:55,820 --> 00:11:56,640
they are going to be.

424
00:11:57,620 --> 00:11:57,900
Okay?

425
00:11:57,940 --> 00:11:58,860
Because I thought the fucking

426
00:11:58,860 --> 00:12:00,140
Resident Evil 2 remake

427
00:12:00,140 --> 00:12:01,660
in 2018

428
00:12:01,660 --> 00:12:04,000
just did not hit the right

429
00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:04,900
notes for me.

430
00:12:05,540 --> 00:12:05,980
Okay?

431
00:12:06,060 --> 00:12:07,280
And I thought from here on in,

432
00:12:07,460 --> 00:12:09,440
I'm not bothered about it.

433
00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:11,540
But boy oh boy,

434
00:12:11,540 --> 00:12:12,720
was I red-faced

435
00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,780
when time came to play

436
00:12:14,780 --> 00:12:16,660
the Resident Evil 4 remake.

437
00:12:17,980 --> 00:12:18,900
Because that shit,

438
00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:20,780
that shit was a blast.

439
00:12:22,180 --> 00:12:24,600
And as for the other games,

440
00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:25,620
they're good enough.

441
00:12:26,260 --> 00:12:27,040
Will Smead,

442
00:12:27,100 --> 00:12:27,820
thank you very much

443
00:12:27,820 --> 00:12:28,540
for the tip there.

444
00:12:29,180 --> 00:12:29,900
Malvern needs

445
00:12:29,900 --> 00:12:30,900
Computer Chronicles.

446
00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:31,800
Happy Thanksgiving.

447
00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,040
He spends his days.

448
00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:34,860
Thank you very much

449
00:12:34,860 --> 00:12:35,560
for the tip there.

450
00:12:35,780 --> 00:12:36,460
And Notion.

451
00:12:37,260 --> 00:12:39,420
and B.Devian Chip.

452
00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,280
Very, very kind to you there.

453
00:12:41,660 --> 00:12:42,800
I think we'll just have

454
00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:43,560
a little look there

455
00:12:43,560 --> 00:12:44,640
at the brother of the shooter.

456
00:12:44,740 --> 00:12:45,180
Now look,

457
00:12:45,980 --> 00:12:48,200
we need to treat this

458
00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,760
with the dignity and respect

459
00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,420
that a situation like this

460
00:12:51,420 --> 00:12:51,940
deserves.

461
00:12:52,580 --> 00:12:52,860
You know,

462
00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,480
this is somebody who's in shock.

463
00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,480
But it also highlights

464
00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:57,920
how much the media

465
00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,300
are fucking vultures

466
00:13:00,300 --> 00:13:02,640
and will hone in

467
00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,020
on someone.

468
00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,520
They'll sniff the weakness.

469
00:13:06,180 --> 00:13:06,540
And I'm,

470
00:13:06,780 --> 00:13:08,000
maybe I'm thinking

471
00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,240
maybe your man here

472
00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:09,820
thought,

473
00:13:10,540 --> 00:13:12,240
oh I best talk to the media.

474
00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,880
Because they'll probably say

475
00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,200
oh he's got something to hide,

476
00:13:16,380 --> 00:13:16,640
you know.

477
00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:18,940
Press gaggle outside the house.

478
00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:20,380
All that kind of business.

479
00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,020
63 on the KPD.

480
00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:23,140
The whole shebang.

481
00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:24,020
Thanks for the tip.

482
00:13:24,020 --> 00:13:25,620
And,

483
00:13:25,740 --> 00:13:28,300
but Computer Chronicles

484
00:13:28,300 --> 00:13:29,740
is in the rafters waiting.

485
00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:30,320
We'll get,

486
00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:31,140
we'll get onto that.

487
00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:31,820
We'll get onto that.

488
00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:33,580
This was the first one.

489
00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:34,380
He did two of them.

490
00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:36,660
Oh.

491
00:13:37,780 --> 00:13:38,220
Oh.

492
00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:39,820
We just don't understand.

493
00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:41,580
It's like I said.

494
00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,020
An asteroid just fell

495
00:13:43,020 --> 00:13:43,800
out of the sky.

496
00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:46,540
And

497
00:13:46,540 --> 00:13:48,540
we have no

498
00:13:48,540 --> 00:13:49,560
reason,

499
00:13:50,260 --> 00:13:50,640
rhyme,

500
00:13:51,220 --> 00:13:51,560
rationale,

501
00:13:51,940 --> 00:13:52,440
excuse.

502
00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,960
there's just nothing.

503
00:13:58,100 --> 00:13:59,180
There's nothing.

504
00:13:59,340 --> 00:14:00,380
You had talked to your brother.

505
00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,100
He texted me to make sure

506
00:14:03,100 --> 00:14:04,080
my mom was okay after.

507
00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:04,960
That's the focus.

508
00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:05,400
That's the focus trick

509
00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,360
that the cameraman has to do,

510
00:14:07,420 --> 00:14:08,280
should really do

511
00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,420
before you've gone live

512
00:14:09,420 --> 00:14:10,000
to be honest.

513
00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:10,780
Where you go right

514
00:14:10,780 --> 00:14:11,540
to the end of the lens.

515
00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,220
Then focus in.

516
00:14:13,700 --> 00:14:14,980
Then fall out.

517
00:14:15,100 --> 00:14:15,460
But I mean,

518
00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:15,980
they're live.

519
00:14:16,100 --> 00:14:16,680
They probably didn't,

520
00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,100
maybe they didn't even know

521
00:14:18,100 --> 00:14:18,600
they were live.

522
00:14:18,700 --> 00:14:19,280
after the hurricane.

523
00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:20,360
We didn't have power

524
00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,060
for five days.

525
00:14:21,620 --> 00:14:21,900
I mean,

526
00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:23,060
we're,

527
00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,180
there's nothing.

528
00:14:25,860 --> 00:14:26,220
I mean,

529
00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,980
the last time she talked to him,

530
00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,200
no indication of anything.

531
00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:32,360
I mean,

532
00:14:32,580 --> 00:14:33,040
nothing.

533
00:14:33,860 --> 00:14:36,080
He was in Vegas

534
00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,300
and gone on a cruise

535
00:14:38,300 --> 00:14:38,820
or something

536
00:14:38,820 --> 00:14:39,940
or blah,

537
00:14:40,020 --> 00:14:40,080
blah,

538
00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:40,240
blah,

539
00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:40,400
blah,

540
00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:40,520
blah,

541
00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:40,560
blah,

542
00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:40,680
blah,

543
00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:40,700
blah,

544
00:14:40,700 --> 00:14:40,860
blah,

545
00:14:40,860 --> 00:14:40,880
blah,

546
00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:40,880
blah,

547
00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:40,880
blah,

548
00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:40,880
blah,

549
00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:41,060
blah,

550
00:14:41,060 --> 00:14:41,060
blah,

551
00:14:41,060 --> 00:14:41,060
blah,

552
00:14:41,060 --> 00:14:41,060
blah,

553
00:14:41,060 --> 00:14:41,060
blah,

554
00:14:41,060 --> 00:14:41,060
blah,

555
00:14:41,060 --> 00:14:41,060
blah,

556
00:14:41,060 --> 00:14:41,060
blah,

557
00:14:41,060 --> 00:14:41,060
blah,

558
00:14:41,060 --> 00:14:41,060
blah,

559
00:14:41,060 --> 00:14:41,060
blah,

560
00:14:41,060 --> 00:14:41,060
blah,

561
00:14:41,060 --> 00:14:42,900
blah, blah, blah, blah.

562
00:14:42,900 --> 00:14:42,980
See,

563
00:14:43,980 --> 00:14:44,220
I mean,

564
00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:45,320
he sent her a walker

565
00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,260
because she's having trouble

566
00:14:47,260 --> 00:14:47,780
walking.

567
00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:48,840
I mean,

568
00:14:49,620 --> 00:14:51,940
it's like I said,

569
00:14:52,020 --> 00:14:52,800
find out who sold him

570
00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:53,380
the machine gun.

571
00:14:55,060 --> 00:14:56,020
Well, there were more

572
00:14:56,020 --> 00:14:57,060
than one machine gun.

573
00:15:00,340 --> 00:15:01,520
I don't know

574
00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:02,460
what else to say.

575
00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:03,100
I just,

576
00:15:03,820 --> 00:15:04,600
I mean,

577
00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:05,180
it's his fault

578
00:15:05,180 --> 00:15:05,880
that he did this.

579
00:15:06,020 --> 00:15:08,940
he had about fucking 17 machine

580
00:15:08,940 --> 00:15:09,180
gun

581
00:15:09,180 --> 00:15:10,300
in the house.

582
00:15:10,420 --> 00:15:11,340
They were assault rifles,

583
00:15:11,420 --> 00:15:11,800
I think.

584
00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:13,720
I was thinking about that.

585
00:15:14,460 --> 00:15:14,860
You know,

586
00:15:15,380 --> 00:15:16,600
what was the situation there?

587
00:15:16,700 --> 00:15:17,800
Was he just thinking that

588
00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,860
maybe it's easier

589
00:15:19,860 --> 00:15:21,420
than changing the mag

590
00:15:21,420 --> 00:15:23,560
to just have a rake

591
00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:24,660
of fucking machine guns?

592
00:15:27,300 --> 00:15:27,780
Also,

593
00:15:27,940 --> 00:15:29,460
if you're firing loads of

594
00:15:29,460 --> 00:15:31,920
like assault rifle rounds,

595
00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:32,920
this is from just watching

596
00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:33,640
Tommy there

597
00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,920
in the DayZ, Tommy,

598
00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:36,280
there?

599
00:15:37,340 --> 00:15:37,600
Yep.

600
00:15:37,700 --> 00:15:38,320
Oh, you're getting on.

601
00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:39,560
If your gun gets hot.

602
00:15:40,220 --> 00:15:41,540
The gun gets hot.

603
00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:42,480
We know about that.

604
00:15:43,420 --> 00:15:43,940
But,

605
00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,480
strange operation.

606
00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,380
There was usage also

607
00:15:47,380 --> 00:15:48,560
of a bump stock.

608
00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:49,700
We've all heard about

609
00:15:49,700 --> 00:15:50,640
the bump stock,

610
00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:52,180
which is a part,

611
00:15:52,420 --> 00:15:54,600
a post-processing part

612
00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,040
you can put onto the gun

613
00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,240
to make it fire even faster.

614
00:15:58,340 --> 00:16:00,700
But I'd like to know

615
00:16:00,700 --> 00:16:01,580
where he found the machine.

616
00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,100
It modifies the gun

617
00:16:04,100 --> 00:16:05,360
to fire full auto

618
00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:06,880
because as it stands,

619
00:16:06,980 --> 00:16:07,520
I believe,

620
00:16:08,300 --> 00:16:09,860
if you buy an assault rifle

621
00:16:09,860 --> 00:16:10,700
in the States,

622
00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:12,940
then you can only go

623
00:16:12,940 --> 00:16:13,500
bam,

624
00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:14,340
bam,

625
00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:15,120
bam,

626
00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:15,820
bam.

627
00:16:16,260 --> 00:16:16,640
Not

628
00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:21,200
with one squeeze

629
00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:21,740
of the trigger.

630
00:16:22,740 --> 00:16:23,240
It's not something

631
00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,180
that easy to come by,

632
00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:24,600
I assume.

633
00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:26,320
And he's not.

634
00:16:26,980 --> 00:16:27,240
I mean,

635
00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,180
he has no criminal record.

636
00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:28,760
He has nothing,

637
00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:29,020
nothing,

638
00:16:29,140 --> 00:16:29,320
nothing,

639
00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:29,380
nothing,

640
00:16:29,380 --> 00:16:30,140
no affiliations

641
00:16:30,140 --> 00:16:30,740
with anything.

642
00:16:31,580 --> 00:16:32,280
There's nothing.

643
00:16:33,780 --> 00:16:34,220
So,

644
00:16:34,500 --> 00:16:36,540
what's going on here?

645
00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,140
It sounds like

646
00:16:39,140 --> 00:16:40,720
the beginning of a U2 song.

647
00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,180
This is very unprofessional

648
00:16:42,180 --> 00:16:43,920
to have that playing

649
00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:44,640
while your man,

650
00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:45,660
the brother of the killer,

651
00:16:45,740 --> 00:16:46,880
is trying to open his heart

652
00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,540
and really tell us

653
00:16:48,540 --> 00:16:49,440
what's going on.

654
00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,040
They have that fucking

655
00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,180
song playing.

656
00:16:52,500 --> 00:16:53,240
It sounded like

657
00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:53,860
The Edge,

658
00:16:54,380 --> 00:16:55,400
but it's as if

659
00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:56,640
The Edge had done

660
00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,860
a little musical piece

661
00:16:58,860 --> 00:16:59,580
for Nokia

662
00:16:59,580 --> 00:17:00,880
or something,

663
00:17:01,020 --> 00:17:01,240
you know.

664
00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:02,420
Nokia had approached

665
00:17:02,420 --> 00:17:03,300
The Edge and said,

666
00:17:03,380 --> 00:17:03,620
look,

667
00:17:03,900 --> 00:17:04,840
we love what you do,

668
00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:05,120
Edge.

669
00:17:05,340 --> 00:17:07,260
We love that stuff.

670
00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,200
Can you design

671
00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:10,720
the new Nokia ringtone

672
00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:11,140
for us?

673
00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:12,760
Thank you very much,

674
00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,600
B. Devi and P

675
00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:15,740
and 6-3

676
00:17:15,740 --> 00:17:17,040
and Willsmead.

677
00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:17,860
Thank you very much,

678
00:17:17,940 --> 00:17:18,180
lads.

679
00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:20,440
They're making Heat 2,

680
00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:20,820
the original,

681
00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:21,240
of course.

682
00:17:21,420 --> 00:17:21,720
Okay,

683
00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:22,420
that sounds good.

684
00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:23,900
There's nothing,

685
00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:24,180
nothing,

686
00:17:24,300 --> 00:17:24,500
nothing,

687
00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:25,300
no affiliations

688
00:17:25,300 --> 00:17:25,900
with anything.

689
00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:27,380
There's nothing.

690
00:17:28,980 --> 00:17:29,380
So,

691
00:17:29,380 --> 00:17:36,900
I want to run.

692
00:17:40,540 --> 00:17:41,020
Well,

693
00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:43,040
the streets have no name.

694
00:17:43,340 --> 00:17:43,800
I thought it was

695
00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:44,720
somebody joking.

696
00:17:45,380 --> 00:17:46,780
And it's actually

697
00:17:46,780 --> 00:17:47,820
underscoring what

698
00:17:47,820 --> 00:17:48,800
he's saying now,

699
00:17:49,420 --> 00:17:50,420
which is bizarre.

700
00:17:50,740 --> 00:17:51,280
I thought it was,

701
00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:51,680
I mean,

702
00:17:51,700 --> 00:17:52,540
if all my cell phones

703
00:17:52,540 --> 00:17:53,080
and house phones

704
00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:53,680
didn't all...

705
00:17:53,680 --> 00:18:02,360
nothing,

706
00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:02,700
nothing,

707
00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:03,500
no affiliations

708
00:18:03,500 --> 00:18:04,140
with anything.

709
00:18:04,900 --> 00:18:05,640
There's nothing.

710
00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,640
So...

711
00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:20,660
the disturbing footage

712
00:18:20,660 --> 00:18:21,320
that they're showing

713
00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:21,720
as well,

714
00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:22,480
simultaneously.

715
00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,000
I thought it was

716
00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:25,900
somebody joking.

717
00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:27,580
I thought it was...

718
00:18:27,580 --> 00:18:27,780
I mean,

719
00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:28,640
if all my cell phones

720
00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:29,160
and house phones

721
00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:29,820
didn't all light up

722
00:18:29,820 --> 00:18:30,420
at the same time

723
00:18:30,420 --> 00:18:32,140
with Las Vegas PD on them,

724
00:18:32,500 --> 00:18:33,060
I would have thought

725
00:18:33,060 --> 00:18:33,480
it was,

726
00:18:33,620 --> 00:18:33,820
you know,

727
00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:34,900
some dopey friend of mine

728
00:18:34,900 --> 00:18:36,200
making a joke.

729
00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:38,600
Dopey friend.

730
00:18:39,780 --> 00:18:40,700
There's no...

731
00:18:40,700 --> 00:18:42,000
There's just...

732
00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:42,400
I mean,

733
00:18:42,420 --> 00:18:42,800
we were working

734
00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:43,500
with the cops.

735
00:18:43,740 --> 00:18:46,100
That's how it went down.

736
00:18:46,360 --> 00:18:47,220
all this stuff

737
00:18:47,220 --> 00:18:48,040
happened in Vegas

738
00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,800
and then...

739
00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:50,900
Vegas police

740
00:18:50,900 --> 00:18:51,880
were ringing him up.

741
00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:53,800
Going,

742
00:18:53,860 --> 00:18:54,400
what the fuck

743
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:54,980
is going on,

744
00:18:55,020 --> 00:18:55,160
man?

745
00:18:55,980 --> 00:18:57,000
What's your brother doing?

746
00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,220
That's how dumbfounded

747
00:18:59,220 --> 00:18:59,940
everybody was.

748
00:19:00,060 --> 00:19:00,680
Nobody knew

749
00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:01,640
what the situation

750
00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:02,340
was here.

751
00:19:02,980 --> 00:19:04,040
This was terrorism

752
00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,500
but homegrown.

753
00:19:05,660 --> 00:19:06,440
But it's not terrorism

754
00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:07,080
but it is.

755
00:19:07,300 --> 00:19:08,580
But it's a random attack.

756
00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:09,720
But it's terror...

757
00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:10,620
I don't even know

758
00:19:10,620 --> 00:19:11,460
what it was designated

759
00:19:11,460 --> 00:19:12,360
in the end.

760
00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:13,820
You know,

761
00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,040
I'm trying to

762
00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,040
understand or...

763
00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:18,480
You know,

764
00:19:18,540 --> 00:19:19,120
trying to make it

765
00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:20,380
do what we could.

766
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:21,780
There's just nothing...

767
00:19:21,780 --> 00:19:22,820
We got nothing to give you.

768
00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,200
There's just nothing.

769
00:19:24,300 --> 00:19:25,080
He was just a guy.

770
00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:26,720
As somebody says

771
00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:27,260
in the chat,

772
00:19:27,820 --> 00:19:28,020
here,

773
00:19:28,100 --> 00:19:28,360
Eric,

774
00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:29,680
your brother's after

775
00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:30,700
fucking losing the head

776
00:19:30,700 --> 00:19:31,280
completely.

777
00:19:32,300 --> 00:19:33,300
What's going on, buddy?

778
00:19:36,420 --> 00:19:37,140
She's...

779
00:19:37,140 --> 00:19:38,020
okay.

780
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:39,340
She's 90 years old

781
00:19:39,340 --> 00:19:40,680
and she's...

782
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:41,400
her son just

783
00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:42,900
killed a bunch of people

784
00:19:42,900 --> 00:19:43,960
and got shot dead.

785
00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:45,160
Crazy, isn't it?

786
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,240
She's a little...

787
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:46,620
It is fucking crazy

788
00:19:46,620 --> 00:19:47,740
that he's given this interview.

789
00:19:48,380 --> 00:19:49,800
Like, don't talk to...

790
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:50,760
They always say as well,

791
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:51,940
don't talk to the cops.

792
00:19:52,300 --> 00:19:53,460
Definitely don't talk

793
00:19:53,460 --> 00:19:54,080
to the media.

794
00:19:54,500 --> 00:19:55,540
For fuck's sake.

795
00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:56,480
Rattle.

796
00:19:57,360 --> 00:19:58,100
Strangely enough.

797
00:19:59,240 --> 00:19:59,680
Um,

798
00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:01,040
but she's okay.

799
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,240
I mean...

800
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,240
he's...

801
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,240
I mean...

802
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:05,240
I mean...

803
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:06,760
Did you know the woman

804
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:07,800
that he...

805
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:08,780
Yeah, it's his girlfriend.

806
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:10,440
I mean, that's the...

807
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:11,080
why we were on the phone

808
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:11,920
with the cops the first thing,

809
00:20:11,980 --> 00:20:12,380
is to find out

810
00:20:12,380 --> 00:20:13,080
what happened to her.

811
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:15,920
There's no...

812
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:16,320
I mean,

813
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,180
she's just a nice lady

814
00:20:18,180 --> 00:20:18,920
who was his girlfriend.

815
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:20,720
and we're worried

816
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:21,600
that she was gonna get,

817
00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:21,900
you know,

818
00:20:21,940 --> 00:20:22,760
shot up or something

819
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:23,540
because they thought

820
00:20:23,540 --> 00:20:24,540
something weird.

821
00:20:24,620 --> 00:20:26,080
But he's...

822
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:26,940
I mean,

823
00:20:26,980 --> 00:20:27,540
he's definitely

824
00:20:27,540 --> 00:20:28,880
only himself.

825
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:29,960
There's no...

826
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,660
There's no affiliations.

827
00:20:31,860 --> 00:20:32,140
I mean,

828
00:20:32,220 --> 00:20:32,820
once again,

829
00:20:32,900 --> 00:20:33,820
that I know of at all.

830
00:20:34,180 --> 00:20:34,580
I mean,

831
00:20:34,620 --> 00:20:35,800
there's no affiliations.

832
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:36,800
There's no church.

833
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:37,940
There's no religion.

834
00:20:38,100 --> 00:20:39,360
There's no politics.

835
00:20:39,540 --> 00:20:40,420
There's no...

836
00:20:40,420 --> 00:20:40,640
Anything.

837
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:40,980
There's nothing.

838
00:20:41,220 --> 00:20:41,600
Nothing.

839
00:20:41,700 --> 00:20:44,080
He was just a blank slate of a

840
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:44,440
man.

841
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:45,680
Gambled away.

842
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,000
He gambled

843
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,180
and gambled every day.

844
00:20:49,300 --> 00:20:50,100
Maybe he was just

845
00:20:50,100 --> 00:20:50,480
the...

846
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:51,360
no...

847
00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:53,320
spiritually empty man.

848
00:20:54,380 --> 00:20:55,200
But, uh,

849
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,220
to do that,

850
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:57,820
that is...

851
00:20:57,820 --> 00:20:59,320
it's just fucking wild.

852
00:20:59,740 --> 00:21:01,180
Had he had any issues

853
00:21:01,180 --> 00:21:03,420
with mental illness in the past?

854
00:21:03,420 --> 00:21:03,740
No.

855
00:21:03,820 --> 00:21:04,700
No mental illness.

856
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:05,460
No...

857
00:21:05,460 --> 00:21:05,760
I mean,

858
00:21:05,860 --> 00:21:06,800
once again,

859
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:07,900
that I know of.

860
00:21:07,900 --> 00:21:10,060
But there's no...

861
00:21:10,060 --> 00:21:11,440
situations in his family.

862
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:12,480
Nothing.

863
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,000
I mean...

864
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:15,360
Nothing that would have

865
00:21:15,360 --> 00:21:16,120
indicated to you

866
00:21:16,120 --> 00:21:16,800
that anything like that.

867
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:17,440
Yeah, he had some allergies.

868
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:18,580
I mean...

869
00:21:18,580 --> 00:21:19,080
Yeah.

870
00:21:19,340 --> 00:21:20,420
I mean...

871
00:21:20,420 --> 00:21:21,740
He was just a guy.

872
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:22,960
Yeah.

873
00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:24,380
This is...

874
00:21:24,380 --> 00:21:25,680
I mean...

875
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:26,820
He was just a guy.

876
00:21:27,820 --> 00:21:31,800
A crazy little guy!

877
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,300
But he was actually quite big.

878
00:21:33,460 --> 00:21:35,880
I think he was about 6'3". I'd

879
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,380
say he was about 6'3". He

880
00:21:39,380 --> 00:21:41,060
looked big.

881
00:21:41,060 --> 00:21:43,780
What happened? Because like I

882
00:21:43,780 --> 00:21:45,780
said, it's just like an

883
00:21:45,780 --> 00:21:48,390
asteroid fell out of the sky.

884
00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:50,820
There was nothing that would

885
00:21:50,820 --> 00:21:53,020
say he would do this kind of

886
00:21:53,020 --> 00:21:55,080
thing. Eric, is there anything

887
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,320
else that you would like to say

888
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,930
that you want to know? I mean,

889
00:21:57,930 --> 00:22:00,290
once again, our condolences. I

890
00:22:00,290 --> 00:22:02,580
mean, you know, could have been

891
00:22:02,580 --> 00:22:04,700
my kids at that show. I mean,

892
00:22:04,700 --> 00:22:07,130
you know, et cetera, et cetera.

893
00:22:07,130 --> 00:22:09,420
I don't know what else to say.

894
00:22:09,420 --> 00:22:12,230
Have you seen any of the videos?

895
00:22:12,230 --> 00:22:14,540
Have you been watching this

896
00:22:14,540 --> 00:22:17,150
stuff all morning? I mean, I

897
00:22:17,150 --> 00:22:20,280
mean, my brother just killed 50

898
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,690
plus people. How does that

899
00:22:22,690 --> 00:22:25,510
affect me? I'm a little. I got

900
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:27,720
this headache right now,

901
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,910
strangely enough. I mean, and

902
00:22:30,910 --> 00:22:33,160
here the edge is again. I want

903
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,240
to run and interview this man.

904
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:42,110
Brother just did some stuff.

905
00:22:42,110 --> 00:22:45,800
And we need to find out why he

906
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,200
did that bad stuff.

907
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:51,990
My brother just killed 50 plus

908
00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:55,040
people. How does that affect me?

909
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,750
I'm a little. Yeah, I got this

910
00:22:56,750 --> 00:22:58,480
headache right now, strangely

911
00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,140
enough.

912
00:22:59,140 --> 00:23:00,700
I mean, the strange face made.

913
00:23:00,700 --> 00:23:02,030
But again, it's a man who's in

914
00:23:02,030 --> 00:23:03,410
shock. So look, we need to

915
00:23:03,410 --> 00:23:04,770
treat this with the reverence

916
00:23:04,770 --> 00:23:06,180
and dignity it deserves.

917
00:23:06,500 --> 00:23:07,870
This is just a media analysis

918
00:23:07,870 --> 00:23:09,690
moment that we're doing. You

919
00:23:09,690 --> 00:23:11,530
know, nothing more, nothing

920
00:23:11,530 --> 00:23:12,120
less.

921
00:23:12,220 --> 00:23:14,440
We need to analyze the way in

922
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,890
which the media descend upon

923
00:23:16,890 --> 00:23:19,140
the week like vultures.

924
00:23:20,140 --> 00:23:22,800
But that ringtone, man, that

925
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,670
ringtone and that face as well.

926
00:23:25,670 --> 00:23:28,240
That's that shock. That'll

927
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,340
happen.

928
00:23:30,460 --> 00:23:31,340
Do you know if you're in shock?

929
00:23:31,340 --> 00:23:33,130
That's the kind of stuff that

930
00:23:33,130 --> 00:23:34,040
goes down.

931
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,350
So you got to you got to watch

932
00:23:36,350 --> 00:23:37,740
out and the media don't care.

933
00:23:37,740 --> 00:23:39,400
They're there. They're seeing

934
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,850
that and they're thinking this

935
00:23:40,850 --> 00:23:42,080
is great TV for us.

936
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,220
I'm a little. Yeah, I got this

937
00:23:44,220 --> 00:23:46,140
headache right now, strangely

938
00:23:46,140 --> 00:23:47,830
enough. I mean, we're our

939
00:23:47,830 --> 00:23:49,730
families huddling together and

940
00:23:49,730 --> 00:23:51,720
trying to hope, you know, we're

941
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,780
trying to make sense of this.

942
00:23:54,580 --> 00:23:55,100
I mean, the first thing I did

943
00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:56,450
was get a hold of everybody and

944
00:23:56,450 --> 00:23:57,820
find out if anybody had been in

945
00:23:57,820 --> 00:23:59,460
contact with him or anything.

946
00:24:00,140 --> 00:24:02,530
But nothing. I mean, my son had

947
00:24:02,530 --> 00:24:04,520
texted him a couple of weeks

948
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,290
ago to tell him about he's

949
00:24:06,290 --> 00:24:08,690
getting married and, you know,

950
00:24:08,690 --> 00:24:10,760
if he wanted to drop by for the

951
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,700
wedding kind of thing.

952
00:24:13,580 --> 00:24:15,000
How did they not silence it

953
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,300
after the first ring? My

954
00:24:17,300 --> 00:24:19,970
sentiments are the same about

955
00:24:19,970 --> 00:24:20,760
that.

956
00:24:20,820 --> 00:24:22,300
They should really just put it

957
00:24:22,300 --> 00:24:24,080
on silent after that first one.

958
00:24:25,100 --> 00:24:26,480
It'll probably happen again.

959
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,120
It's been a year or two ago now.

960
00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:31,540
You'll find I mean, he lived in

961
00:24:31,540 --> 00:24:33,330
Melbourne. He had a house there

962
00:24:33,330 --> 00:24:35,080
for a little while, decided he

963
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,880
didn't like the, you know, too

964
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:37,520
much.

965
00:24:40,140 --> 00:24:40,390
Too much dust from the farms

966
00:24:40,390 --> 00:24:43,360
over in the end of the era. I

967
00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:45,620
moved him back to.

968
00:24:47,780 --> 00:24:47,850
Like a crop duster. Is he

969
00:24:47,850 --> 00:24:50,700
saying that he might have inhaled

970
00:24:50,700 --> 00:24:53,160
dust from the farm and that's

971
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,900
led to him doing this, is it?

972
00:24:56,820 --> 00:24:58,490
How long have I been on there?

973
00:24:58,490 --> 00:25:00,420
Probably about 10 minutes.

974
00:25:00,420 --> 00:25:02,490
Probably about, it says 26

975
00:25:02,490 --> 00:25:03,300
minutes.

976
00:25:05,540 --> 00:25:06,230
Too much dust from the farms

977
00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:09,240
over in the end of the era.

978
00:25:09,580 --> 00:25:11,120
I moved him back to.

979
00:25:11,300 --> 00:25:12,140
Too much dust.

980
00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:13,840
Vegas.

981
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,350
The end of the farm, the end of

982
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:15,980
the era.

983
00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:16,680
I mean.

984
00:25:17,340 --> 00:25:17,820
Roundup.

985
00:25:20,620 --> 00:25:21,480
Santo, is it?

986
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,020
Del Taco.

987
00:25:23,020 --> 00:25:25,810
I mean, he drove down to Vegas

988
00:25:25,810 --> 00:25:28,360
and played video poker.

989
00:25:28,420 --> 00:25:30,080
What's the context here, Kerry?

990
00:25:30,220 --> 00:25:32,000
Look, we're looking for context

991
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,560
because we still haven't.

992
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,880
Nobody has ever come up with a

993
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,360
reasonable explanation as to

994
00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:40,660
why your man went and did that

995
00:25:40,660 --> 00:25:41,480
thing.

996
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,060
And I wasn't going to watch it.

997
00:25:43,060 --> 00:25:43,890
I don't want to bring the tone

998
00:25:43,890 --> 00:25:44,180
down.

999
00:25:44,180 --> 00:25:46,330
But it also went a bit kind of

1000
00:25:46,330 --> 00:25:48,590
like, let's have a little look

1001
00:25:48,590 --> 00:25:51,170
here at how the media manipulates

1002
00:25:51,170 --> 00:25:53,270
people often in their most,

1003
00:25:53,270 --> 00:25:55,610
their hour of need, let's just

1004
00:25:55,610 --> 00:25:56,300
say.

1005
00:25:56,860 --> 00:25:58,540
And they really don't care.

1006
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,720
They went after this man, not

1007
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,380
once, but twice in the same day.

1008
00:26:03,580 --> 00:26:06,040
But then, question marks begin

1009
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,230
to present themselves as to

1010
00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:10,740
whether or not your man, did he

1011
00:26:10,740 --> 00:26:12,670
want to be on the fucking

1012
00:26:12,670 --> 00:26:13,680
camera?

1013
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,300
Because this was the first one.

1014
00:26:15,620 --> 00:26:16,860
If this was me and this

1015
00:26:16,860 --> 00:26:18,550
happened, I'd have gone back

1016
00:26:18,550 --> 00:26:20,580
into the gaff then or something.

1017
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,260
And then I would have seen the

1018
00:26:22,260 --> 00:26:24,040
video or the clip of me on TV.

1019
00:26:24,700 --> 00:26:26,010
Maybe people would have said,

1020
00:26:26,010 --> 00:26:27,960
we just seen you on TV, man.

1021
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:28,500
Are you okay?

1022
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:29,200
Is everything okay?

1023
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:30,420
And then I would have watched

1024
00:26:30,420 --> 00:26:31,690
it and would have thought, do

1025
00:26:31,690 --> 00:26:32,480
you know what?

1026
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:33,790
I shouldn't have fucking gone

1027
00:26:33,790 --> 00:26:34,200
on TV.

1028
00:26:34,780 --> 00:26:36,060
I'm obviously not right.

1029
00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:37,740
Some weird shit has just gone

1030
00:26:37,740 --> 00:26:38,100
on.

1031
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,710
And that's not good to put me,

1032
00:26:39,710 --> 00:26:40,860
myself out there.

1033
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,240
But then he's there later on

1034
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,820
again in a different shirt.

1035
00:26:43,820 --> 00:26:46,820
Searching for clues as well as

1036
00:26:46,820 --> 00:26:48,420
another one.

1037
00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:49,760
From what you know, he was just

1038
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:50,840
living a normal life.

1039
00:26:50,860 --> 00:26:51,680
There's exactly nothing.

1040
00:26:52,380 --> 00:26:53,060
Yeah, exactly.

1041
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,000
Exactly nothing.

1042
00:26:55,020 --> 00:26:56,100
What did he do for a living?

1043
00:26:56,700 --> 00:26:57,420
He's retired.

1044
00:27:00,900 --> 00:27:02,140
What had he done before?

1045
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:02,740
Just nothing.

1046
00:27:02,940 --> 00:27:03,120
Yeah.

1047
00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:04,660
I saw on the public record he

1048
00:27:04,660 --> 00:27:05,460
did stuff.

1049
00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:06,440
He went to college.

1050
00:27:06,580 --> 00:27:07,380
He had a job.

1051
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:09,210
You know, we owned some

1052
00:27:09,210 --> 00:27:10,440
apartments.

1053
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:11,700
We sold some apartments.

1054
00:27:12,260 --> 00:27:13,820
I mean, there's nothing.

1055
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,280
There was no...

1056
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,580
No indication at all.

1057
00:27:18,020 --> 00:27:18,460
Nothing.

1058
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:21,120
That's what's so...

1059
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:21,880
Bizarre.

1060
00:27:22,260 --> 00:27:23,120
So weird.

1061
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,160
I mean...

1062
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,420
I mean, I can't even make

1063
00:27:25,420 --> 00:27:26,300
something up.

1064
00:27:27,020 --> 00:27:28,340
There's just...

1065
00:27:28,340 --> 00:27:29,220
There's nothing.

1066
00:27:30,980 --> 00:27:31,980
Again, yeah, we said the man is

1067
00:27:31,980 --> 00:27:33,080
in shock.

1068
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,880
So we need to really approach

1069
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,960
this with the reverence,

1070
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,120
respect and dignity that it

1071
00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:40,960
deserves.

1072
00:27:41,100 --> 00:27:43,560
I think it's still pertinent to

1073
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,120
ask questions of the media.

1074
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:47,380
Do you know?

1075
00:27:49,380 --> 00:27:51,360
And this is it again later on

1076
00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:52,280
that day.

1077
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,920
In a different shirt, he

1078
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:54,460
appeared.

1079
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:55,900
Some of...

1080
00:27:55,900 --> 00:27:56,970
As I recall, some of the

1081
00:27:56,970 --> 00:27:58,320
moments are a bit testing.

1082
00:27:58,460 --> 00:27:59,480
So I'll skip past them.

1083
00:27:59,580 --> 00:28:01,020
But then there are some really

1084
00:28:01,020 --> 00:28:02,550
bizarre, strange details as

1085
00:28:02,550 --> 00:28:03,060
well.

1086
00:28:03,060 --> 00:28:04,490
The Las Vegas shooter, Stephen

1087
00:28:04,490 --> 00:28:05,810
Paddock, spoke to reporters

1088
00:28:05,810 --> 00:28:07,280
just moments ago in Orlando.

1089
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,420
A word of caution.

1090
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,600
We understand there is some

1091
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,140
adult language being used here.

1092
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,080
Let's listen in.

1093
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:20,760
Fucked up.

1094
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:22,830
They should have known then

1095
00:28:22,830 --> 00:28:24,580
when he's like this.

1096
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,580
Lads, maybe we're exploiting

1097
00:28:26,580 --> 00:28:27,820
the fella here.

1098
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,080
Let's just...

1099
00:28:30,020 --> 00:28:30,320
You know.

1100
00:28:30,660 --> 00:28:31,980
He's obviously having a fucking

1101
00:28:31,980 --> 00:28:32,700
tough one.

1102
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,480
Someone texted me.

1103
00:28:35,540 --> 00:28:36,320
The first thing is thank you.

1104
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,720
Whoever texted me my truck.

1105
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,160
The mug is great.

1106
00:28:39,260 --> 00:28:40,160
I like his...

1107
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:50,540
Someone texted me.

1108
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:51,550
I don't know who Reuters or

1109
00:28:51,550 --> 00:28:52,500
somebody texted me.

1110
00:28:52,540 --> 00:28:52,940
Thank you.

1111
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:53,680
That...

1112
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:54,870
With an update that I didn't

1113
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:55,280
have.

1114
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:56,140
Because I was...

1115
00:28:56,140 --> 00:28:57,480
I took my mom to the doctor.

1116
00:29:01,020 --> 00:29:01,800
Supposedly Steve...

1117
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:02,140
I'm sorry?

1118
00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:02,940
How's your mom doing?

1119
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,120
She's okay.

1120
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,360
I mean...

1121
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,640
I mean...

1122
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:07,490
Do you want that kind of

1123
00:29:07,490 --> 00:29:08,120
background?

1124
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,780
Real quick about my mom.

1125
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:10,660
I mean...

1126
00:29:10,660 --> 00:29:11,720
My mom was born in the

1127
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:12,600
depression.

1128
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,380
She's had a tough life.

1129
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,500
Her husband was an a**hole.

1130
00:29:16,780 --> 00:29:18,200
A total a**hole.

1131
00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:20,820
He ran off.

1132
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:21,820
Left her with four kids.

1133
00:29:21,940 --> 00:29:23,360
She raised four kids.

1134
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,320
On a secretary salary.

1135
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:27,480
In the 70s...

1136
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,200
You know, in the 60s and 70s.

1137
00:29:29,580 --> 00:29:30,420
And...

1138
00:29:30,420 --> 00:29:31,840
Some of us weren't real good

1139
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:32,300
kids.

1140
00:29:32,420 --> 00:29:33,280
I mean, you guys are probably

1141
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,220
going to investigate me.

1142
00:29:34,740 --> 00:29:35,800
I wasn't a wonderful human

1143
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,280
being when I was a kid.

1144
00:29:37,900 --> 00:29:39,260
We were bad kids.

1145
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:40,160
Okay?

1146
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:42,080
That's...

1147
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:42,700
You know...

1148
00:29:42,700 --> 00:29:43,700
At some level.

1149
00:29:44,060 --> 00:29:45,400
We were troublesome kids.

1150
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:46,780
We grew up poor on the side of

1151
00:29:46,780 --> 00:29:48,340
the freeway in the San Fernando

1152
00:29:48,340 --> 00:29:49,620
Valley in California.

1153
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,480
I don't want to...

1154
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,250
I mean, I don't want to go too

1155
00:29:52,250 --> 00:29:52,800
much into this.

1156
00:29:52,860 --> 00:29:53,340
But...

1157
00:29:53,340 --> 00:29:55,400
How we were formed.

1158
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,640
We're just people.

1159
00:29:58,740 --> 00:29:59,300
The...

1160
00:29:59,300 --> 00:30:01,060
My mom has had a tough life.

1161
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:02,900
And here's where it goes in...

1162
00:30:02,900 --> 00:30:04,760
Where it branches into Steve.

1163
00:30:04,860 --> 00:30:06,780
Again with the fucking ringtones.

1164
00:30:06,900 --> 00:30:08,480
They couldn't just silence it.

1165
00:30:09,220 --> 00:30:09,860
And...

1166
00:30:09,860 --> 00:30:11,060
But they're...

1167
00:30:11,060 --> 00:30:13,640
They're making him dance on...

1168
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:13,640
On...

1169
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,560
You know, the head of a pin in

1170
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,900
front of the world media there.

1171
00:30:18,460 --> 00:30:19,640
But also at the same time...

1172
00:30:20,420 --> 00:30:22,060
Who is advising him here?

1173
00:30:22,260 --> 00:30:22,680
No one...

1174
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:23,700
He had nobody...

1175
00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:24,780
Nobody had his back.

1176
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:25,880
Do you know?

1177
00:30:25,940 --> 00:30:26,740
Someone should have said...

1178
00:30:26,740 --> 00:30:27,620
Leave it, man.

1179
00:30:27,740 --> 00:30:28,080
Leave it.

1180
00:30:28,140 --> 00:30:28,900
Because...

1181
00:30:28,900 --> 00:30:29,220
They're...

1182
00:30:29,220 --> 00:30:30,600
They're only gonna fucking try

1183
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,280
and...

1184
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,120
Make you look foolish.

1185
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:32,500
You know?

1186
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,230
It needs to be on your own

1187
00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:34,980
terms.

1188
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,190
This is the opposite of it

1189
00:30:36,190 --> 00:30:37,280
being on your terms.

1190
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,660
Steve made my mom wealthy.

1191
00:30:41,980 --> 00:30:42,420
He...

1192
00:30:42,420 --> 00:30:43,520
He's the one...

1193
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,900
He's the reason why she's...

1194
00:30:44,900 --> 00:30:45,380
He's...

1195
00:30:45,380 --> 00:30:46,900
It's not...

1196
00:30:46,900 --> 00:30:47,660
He's not the only reason...

1197
00:30:47,660 --> 00:30:48,260
Then again...

1198
00:30:48,260 --> 00:30:49,000
We have the...

1199
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,200
The counterpoint.

1200
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,790
Eddie Hobbs' counterpoints

1201
00:30:51,790 --> 00:30:52,500
podcast.

1202
00:30:53,140 --> 00:30:53,780
As...

1203
00:30:53,780 --> 00:30:55,320
McKenzie says there...

1204
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,460
To be fair...

1205
00:30:56,460 --> 00:30:58,100
He doesn't stop talking.

1206
00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,440
Hey...

1207
00:30:59,440 --> 00:30:59,840
He...

1208
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,240
But he does...

1209
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,400
He does like to keep going.

1210
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:03,020
Do you know?

1211
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,100
And a good producer...

1212
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,340
Or director will see that...

1213
00:31:06,340 --> 00:31:07,100
And think...

1214
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:08,940
We've got the content, baby.

1215
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:10,000
The content.

1216
00:31:10,340 --> 00:31:11,840
And she did this herself...

1217
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:12,340
A lot of it.

1218
00:31:12,500 --> 00:31:12,920
Okay?

1219
00:31:13,460 --> 00:31:14,100
But...

1220
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:15,780
He helped...

1221
00:31:15,780 --> 00:31:17,240
Make her retirement...

1222
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,220
Very comfortable.

1223
00:31:19,060 --> 00:31:19,280
You know?

1224
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,300
He's the reason she's...

1225
00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:21,260
Very, very comfortable.

1226
00:31:21,980 --> 00:31:22,620
Right now.

1227
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:23,510
She wouldn't have been as

1228
00:31:23,510 --> 00:31:24,440
comfortable...

1229
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,360
Because you don't make much

1230
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:25,940
money...

1231
00:31:25,940 --> 00:31:27,100
As a secretary...

1232
00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:27,940
In the 70s.

1233
00:31:27,940 --> 00:31:28,940
Raising four kids.

1234
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:29,780
Okay?

1235
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,120
Steve is the reason...

1236
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,660
That she has substantial...

1237
00:31:33,660 --> 00:31:34,700
She has substantial funds right

1238
00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:35,200
now...

1239
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:35,460
And it's comfortable.

1240
00:31:35,460 --> 00:31:36,220
I thought that was a...

1241
00:31:36,220 --> 00:31:37,700
I thought that was a tip sound

1242
00:31:37,700 --> 00:31:38,180
then.

1243
00:31:38,580 --> 00:31:39,280
Or it's not...

1244
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,460
It's just yet again...

1245
00:31:40,460 --> 00:31:41,420
Another...

1246
00:31:41,420 --> 00:31:42,360
Message alert...

1247
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,160
That someone's getting...

1248
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:43,940
In the actual clip.

1249
00:31:44,500 --> 00:31:44,680
Uh...

1250
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:45,680
Thank you very much there...

1251
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:45,680
Thank you very much there...

1252
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,300
Giller and Brain Schlug...

1253
00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:48,340
Or Brian Schlug...

1254
00:31:48,340 --> 00:31:48,860
And B Devi...

1255
00:31:48,860 --> 00:31:49,300
Thank you very much.

1256
00:31:49,300 --> 00:31:51,300
The reason...

1257
00:31:51,300 --> 00:31:53,300
That she has substantial...

1258
00:31:53,300 --> 00:31:54,370
She has substantial funds right

1259
00:31:54,370 --> 00:31:54,860
now...

1260
00:31:54,860 --> 00:31:55,340
And is comfortable.

1261
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:56,360
That's...

1262
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:56,800
It's...

1263
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,520
It's really taken away from...

1264
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,780
The dignity of...

1265
00:32:00,780 --> 00:32:02,140
Of what he has to say there...

1266
00:32:02,140 --> 00:32:02,900
By having someone...

1267
00:32:02,900 --> 00:32:03,940
With a...

1268
00:32:03,940 --> 00:32:04,900
A ringtone...

1269
00:32:04,900 --> 00:32:05,940
Or a message alert...

1270
00:32:05,940 --> 00:32:06,840
That goes...

1271
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,440
Uh...

1272
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,120
Uh...

1273
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:08,800
Uh...

1274
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,240
Uh...

1275
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,220
He's talking about his mother...

1276
00:32:11,220 --> 00:32:12,120
How hard it was...

1277
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,020
Bringing up him...

1278
00:32:13,020 --> 00:32:14,540
And his brother...

1279
00:32:14,540 --> 00:32:15,460
The father left...

1280
00:32:15,460 --> 00:32:17,000
The father was an asshole...

1281
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,500
He said...

1282
00:32:18,500 --> 00:32:20,480
That she has substantial...

1283
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:21,560
She has substantial funds right

1284
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:22,060
now...

1285
00:32:22,060 --> 00:32:23,120
And is comfortable...

1286
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,100
That's the Steve...

1287
00:32:24,100 --> 00:32:24,440
I...

1288
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,280
That's the Steve I know...

1289
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:26,960
Okay...

1290
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,140
Now the other thing is the...

1291
00:32:29,140 --> 00:32:29,620
I...

1292
00:32:29,620 --> 00:32:30,400
Someone said that...

1293
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:30,880
Mary...

1294
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,260
That Steve transferred $100,000...

1295
00:32:33,260 --> 00:32:33,580
Woo...

1296
00:32:33,580 --> 00:32:34,840
$100,000...

1297
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:35,400
We're...

1298
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,860
We're wealthy people...

1299
00:32:36,860 --> 00:32:38,440
$100,000 isn't that much money...

1300
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:38,700
A...

1301
00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:39,670
And I'm sorry if that hurts

1302
00:32:39,670 --> 00:32:40,380
people...

1303
00:32:40,380 --> 00:32:41,240
Or something...

1304
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,780
But $100,000 isn't that huge

1305
00:32:42,780 --> 00:32:43,760
amount of money...

1306
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:44,940
He gambled that much through a

1307
00:32:44,940 --> 00:32:45,760
machine...

1308
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:45,920
Mental...

1309
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:46,960
In hours...

1310
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:47,160
I mean...

1311
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:47,800
Mental...

1312
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,740
Once again...

1313
00:32:48,740 --> 00:32:49,720
You need to understand...

1314
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:50,380
That's what people need to

1315
00:32:50,380 --> 00:32:50,960
understand...

1316
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,060
The level...

1317
00:32:52,060 --> 00:32:53,000
Where some people live...

1318
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:53,840
I guess everybody thinks...

1319
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:54,700
That everybody works at Taco

1320
00:32:54,700 --> 00:32:55,220
Bell...

1321
00:32:55,220 --> 00:32:55,780
Or something...

1322
00:32:55,780 --> 00:32:56,890
Everybody doesn't work at Taco

1323
00:32:56,890 --> 00:32:57,400
Bell...

1324
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,060
I remember...

1325
00:32:58,060 --> 00:32:59,020
I remember now...

1326
00:32:59,020 --> 00:33:00,520
When I first seen this...

1327
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,770
That I knew that the interview

1328
00:33:01,770 --> 00:33:02,640
was weird...

1329
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:03,940
But it was this moment...

1330
00:33:03,940 --> 00:33:05,420
When he said that sort of stuff...

1331
00:33:05,420 --> 00:33:06,020
That I thought...

1332
00:33:06,020 --> 00:33:07,390
I'm watching the rest of this

1333
00:33:07,390 --> 00:33:08,160
man...

1334
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,840
Because who knows what he's

1335
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,840
gonna fucking say next...

1336
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:12,780
And then he kept going...

1337
00:33:12,780 --> 00:33:13,780
Wealthy people who do this...

1338
00:33:13,780 --> 00:33:15,460
If you're gonna condemn Steve...

1339
00:33:15,460 --> 00:33:16,460
For being a...

1340
00:33:16,460 --> 00:33:18,460
High stakes gambler...

1341
00:33:18,460 --> 00:33:19,870
The hotels are not gonna be

1342
00:33:19,870 --> 00:33:21,540
very happy with you...

1343
00:33:21,540 --> 00:33:22,580
Go find everybody...

1344
00:33:22,580 --> 00:33:23,580
Go find everybody...

1345
00:33:23,580 --> 00:33:24,300
And interview them...

1346
00:33:24,300 --> 00:33:25,060
Who has a card...

1347
00:33:25,060 --> 00:33:25,810
If you're gonna call Steve

1348
00:33:25,810 --> 00:33:26,340
crazy...

1349
00:33:26,340 --> 00:33:27,460
For gambling the way he gambles...

1350
00:33:27,460 --> 00:33:29,460
Go find everybody at the hotels...

1351
00:33:29,460 --> 00:33:30,080
Who has a...

1352
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,140
Have the hotels tell you...

1353
00:33:31,140 --> 00:33:32,840
Everybody who's got a gold...

1354
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:33,120
You know...

1355
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,460
He's got the highest level of

1356
00:33:34,460 --> 00:33:35,800
membership card...

1357
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,740
At a lot of these hotels...

1358
00:33:37,740 --> 00:33:39,020
If these hotels say they don't

1359
00:33:39,020 --> 00:33:40,000
know Steve...

1360
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:40,800
They're lying...

1361
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,960
But would that transfer

1362
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,000
indicate...

1363
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,140
Some sort of forethought...

1364
00:33:44,140 --> 00:33:44,680
You think maybe...

1365
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,000
Or was that...

1366
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:45,140
What?

1367
00:33:45,260 --> 00:33:46,800
Did he routinely send her money...

1368
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:47,390
No, it was the only one about

1369
00:33:47,390 --> 00:33:47,800
there...

1370
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:48,200
My mom?

1371
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,080
Or Mary Ann?

1372
00:33:49,340 --> 00:33:49,820
He...

1373
00:33:49,820 --> 00:33:50,380
Mary Lou?

1374
00:33:50,660 --> 00:33:51,480
I'm sorry...

1375
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,480
Okay...

1376
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:53,680
Steve...

1377
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:54,980
Took care...

1378
00:33:54,980 --> 00:33:56,300
Of the people...

1379
00:33:56,300 --> 00:33:57,740
He loved...

1380
00:33:57,740 --> 00:33:59,360
He helped make me...

1381
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,600
And my family wealthy...

1382
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:02,660
I mean...

1383
00:34:02,660 --> 00:34:03,340
He's the reason...

1384
00:34:03,340 --> 00:34:05,480
I was able to retire...

1385
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,480
Three years ago...

1386
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,480
When I got...

1387
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,360
Really burnt out...

1388
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,740
Doing the job I did...

1389
00:34:11,740 --> 00:34:12,240
I mean...

1390
00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:13,420
This is the Steve...

1391
00:34:13,420 --> 00:34:14,620
We know...

1392
00:34:14,620 --> 00:34:16,300
We knew...

1393
00:34:16,300 --> 00:34:16,860
He's...

1394
00:34:16,860 --> 00:34:17,980
The people he loved...

1395
00:34:17,980 --> 00:34:18,820
He took care of...

1396
00:34:18,820 --> 00:34:20,520
He didn't have a lot of friends...

1397
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:20,760
You know...

1398
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,520
He was a private person...

1399
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,600
There's a story about that he's...

1400
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:25,480
Oh...

1401
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,220
He kept his window...

1402
00:34:27,220 --> 00:34:28,880
His shades closed...

1403
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:29,280
And...

1404
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,440
He didn't talk to me...

1405
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,680
For the first three times...

1406
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,000
He saw me walking in the

1407
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,480
neighborhood...

1408
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,160
Wow...

1409
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,180
That makes him really weird...

1410
00:34:38,180 --> 00:34:38,620
Doesn't it?

1411
00:34:38,620 --> 00:34:40,280
It was those moments as well...

1412
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,720
You know...

1413
00:34:41,720 --> 00:34:42,180
You know...

1414
00:34:42,180 --> 00:34:43,280
It's too much...

1415
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,520
There was too much going on...

1416
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:45,820
And there was nobody prompting

1417
00:34:45,820 --> 00:34:46,480
that...

1418
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,480
He was a private guy...

1419
00:34:50,580 --> 00:34:51,220
That's why you can't find out

1420
00:34:51,220 --> 00:34:53,120
anything about him...

1421
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,560
That's why there's no pictures...

1422
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:55,140
Is...

1423
00:34:55,140 --> 00:34:56,420
Is he such a weirdo...

1424
00:34:56,420 --> 00:34:57,310
Because he didn't have a

1425
00:34:57,310 --> 00:34:58,180
Facebook page...

1426
00:34:58,180 --> 00:35:00,260
And posted 50,000 damn pictures

1427
00:35:00,260 --> 00:35:01,380
of himself every day?

1428
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:02,580
Who's weird?

1429
00:35:03,180 --> 00:35:04,110
Can you sympathize that people

1430
00:35:04,110 --> 00:35:05,590
are maybe grasping for any sort

1431
00:35:05,590 --> 00:35:06,600
of explanation?

1432
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:07,200
I'm...

1433
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:07,960
I'm not...

1434
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:08,480
Mental...

1435
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,180
Believe me...

1436
00:35:09,180 --> 00:35:10,520
I sympathize with...

1437
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,060
We're saying the same stuff

1438
00:35:12,060 --> 00:35:13,620
about the fella who tried to

1439
00:35:13,620 --> 00:35:14,940
shoot Trump...

1440
00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:16,440
A few years ago...

1441
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,160
The young fella...

1442
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,160
Had no...

1443
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,220
Digital footprint...

1444
00:35:20,220 --> 00:35:20,520
Apparently...

1445
00:35:21,700 --> 00:35:22,130
Although I did see something

1446
00:35:22,130 --> 00:35:23,320
last week...

1447
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:24,520
There was like a video of him...

1448
00:35:25,060 --> 00:35:26,000
Just in a...

1449
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:26,520
In a fucking bedroom...

1450
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:27,460
Like...

1451
00:35:27,460 --> 00:35:28,520
Lining up a shot or something...

1452
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,520
Um...

1453
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,460
Yeah...

1454
00:35:33,460 --> 00:35:33,960
Crazy...

1455
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:34,700
Crazy stuff...

1456
00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:36,160
Everybody who's grasping...

1457
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,730
Who on this planet do you think

1458
00:35:37,730 --> 00:35:39,460
is grasping for this...

1459
00:35:39,460 --> 00:35:41,180
Understanding more than me?

1460
00:35:43,380 --> 00:35:43,900
Okay?

1461
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:44,960
I mean...

1462
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:45,700
Once again...

1463
00:35:45,700 --> 00:35:47,520
My heart goes out...

1464
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:47,520
In...

1465
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:48,660
I mean...

1466
00:35:48,660 --> 00:35:49,520
My son...

1467
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:51,300
Called me today...

1468
00:35:51,300 --> 00:35:52,020
And he cried...

1469
00:35:52,020 --> 00:35:52,160
I'm...

1470
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:52,520
He's...

1471
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,520
He's just crushed by this...

1472
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,900
And it has nothing to do with

1473
00:35:56,900 --> 00:35:57,640
him...

1474
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:58,560
If it gets hard...

1475
00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:59,440
I'll just put that on the

1476
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:00,160
screen...

1477
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:00,460
But he's just...

1478
00:36:00,460 --> 00:36:01,940
Totally crushed by this...

1479
00:36:01,940 --> 00:36:02,540
It gets hard...

1480
00:36:02,540 --> 00:36:02,980
And I'm...

1481
00:36:02,980 --> 00:36:03,340
I mean...

1482
00:36:03,340 --> 00:36:03,800
This is why...

1483
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,980
I'm not a crying kind of guy...

1484
00:36:05,980 --> 00:36:07,340
I'm an old school kind of guy...

1485
00:36:07,340 --> 00:36:08,340
My wife stayed home and raised

1486
00:36:08,340 --> 00:36:08,980
my kids...

1487
00:36:08,980 --> 00:36:10,660
I went out and earned the money...

1488
00:36:10,660 --> 00:36:11,720
I'm an old school kind of guy...

1489
00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:11,960
I'm...

1490
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,040
I'm the guy who takes care of

1491
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,200
everybody else...

1492
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:14,460
I'm...

1493
00:36:14,460 --> 00:36:16,000
This crying thing is not my

1494
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,300
normal gig...

1495
00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:17,560
Okay?

1496
00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:18,620
I'm...

1497
00:36:18,620 --> 00:36:20,900
Imagine if crying was your gig...

1498
00:36:20,900 --> 00:36:21,840
Fuck that...

1499
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,620
I hope they're paying you well...

1500
00:36:23,620 --> 00:36:23,980
I can't...

1501
00:36:23,980 --> 00:36:25,440
Apparently the hour as well...

1502
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,230
Because he said there's loads

1503
00:36:26,230 --> 00:36:27,240
of money floating around...

1504
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:28,250
I haven't even processed this

1505
00:36:28,250 --> 00:36:28,780
yet...

1506
00:36:28,780 --> 00:36:29,180
Really...

1507
00:36:29,180 --> 00:36:29,440
I mean...

1508
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,060
It's just started...

1509
00:36:30,060 --> 00:36:31,600
I woke up this morning crying...

1510
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:31,940
It's like...

1511
00:36:31,940 --> 00:36:33,220
Okay...

1512
00:36:33,220 --> 00:36:33,780
I'm...

1513
00:36:33,780 --> 00:36:35,220
So this is the day after...

1514
00:36:35,220 --> 00:36:35,660
Today...

1515
00:36:35,660 --> 00:36:37,400
This is the day after...

1516
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,510
He already did one the day

1517
00:36:38,510 --> 00:36:39,340
before...

1518
00:36:39,340 --> 00:36:40,940
Plenty of time to digest...

1519
00:36:40,940 --> 00:36:41,740
Sleep on it...

1520
00:36:41,740 --> 00:36:42,180
Do you know...

1521
00:36:42,180 --> 00:36:43,220
The whole saying...

1522
00:36:43,220 --> 00:36:44,820
Let's just sleep on it...

1523
00:36:44,820 --> 00:36:46,420
And then to wake up again...

1524
00:36:46,420 --> 00:36:47,640
And go again...

1525
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:48,200
Is a...

1526
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:48,780
It's...

1527
00:36:48,780 --> 00:36:49,100
That...

1528
00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:50,520
That was a strange choice...

1529
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:51,140
I thought...

1530
00:36:51,140 --> 00:36:51,460
You know...

1531
00:36:51,460 --> 00:36:52,520
And for people who are trying

1532
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,360
to look at...

1533
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:53,780
You know...

1534
00:36:53,780 --> 00:36:55,360
This whole crime...

1535
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,160
Tragedy...

1536
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,160
From the...

1537
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:57,860
Outs...

1538
00:36:57,860 --> 00:36:58,860
The outset...

1539
00:36:58,860 --> 00:37:00,360
The outskirts...

1540
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,520
Trying to...

1541
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,930
Put the pieces together in our

1542
00:37:02,930 --> 00:37:03,700
mind...

1543
00:37:03,700 --> 00:37:03,980
You know...

1544
00:37:03,980 --> 00:37:05,520
It makes for...

1545
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,160
An interesting...

1546
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,160
Situation...

1547
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,960
He gambled for 20 plus years...

1548
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,320
Successfully...

1549
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,780
It's like a job to him...

1550
00:37:16,780 --> 00:37:18,500
He did it mathematically...

1551
00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:19,860
He did it because...

1552
00:37:19,860 --> 00:37:21,280
It was a way to...

1553
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,700
Have a fun life...

1554
00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:23,200
And...

1555
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,000
And make...

1556
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:24,460
And he...

1557
00:37:24,460 --> 00:37:26,460
Didn't go poor doing it...

1558
00:37:26,460 --> 00:37:27,700
Now that may have changed...

1559
00:37:27,700 --> 00:37:28,080
I don't know...

1560
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:28,820
The hotels...

1561
00:37:28,820 --> 00:37:29,700
The hotels...

1562
00:37:29,700 --> 00:37:30,320
The hotels...

1563
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,120
They know...

1564
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,120
They know...

1565
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,940
They know whether he lost money...

1566
00:37:33,940 --> 00:37:34,400
Or something...

1567
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,480
Because he never would have...

1568
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:36,980
Gambleed for a second...

1569
00:37:36,980 --> 00:37:38,660
Without putting a card in...

1570
00:37:38,660 --> 00:37:39,820
Because you don't...

1571
00:37:39,820 --> 00:37:41,280
Get your points and stuff...

1572
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,700
If you don't have your card...

1573
00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:43,240
In the machine...

1574
00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:44,120
You don't get your comps...

1575
00:37:44,660 --> 00:37:46,320
But still no clue...

1576
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,740
As to why...

1577
00:37:47,740 --> 00:37:48,660
He would do something like this...

1578
00:37:48,660 --> 00:37:50,120
No clue whatsoever...

1579
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,200
Here's the clue for the day...

1580
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:52,920
Someone says...

1581
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,000
He transferred $100,000...

1582
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,360
To the Philippines...

1583
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,960
Mary Lou is...

1584
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:58,200
You know...

1585
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,120
They say she's Australian...

1586
00:37:59,120 --> 00:37:59,360
I guess...

1587
00:37:59,360 --> 00:37:59,740
But I mean...

1588
00:37:59,740 --> 00:38:00,240
At the base...

1589
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:01,200
She's Filipino...

1590
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:01,800
I believe...

1591
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:02,120
I mean...

1592
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:02,360
I...

1593
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:03,780
She's Filipino...

1594
00:38:03,780 --> 00:38:04,080
I mean...

1595
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:04,660
I think...

1596
00:38:04,660 --> 00:38:06,040
Because she might have...

1597
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,320
But she has a lot of relatives...

1598
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:07,520
I mean...

1599
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:08,580
They've been to the Philippines...

1600
00:38:08,580 --> 00:38:09,200
Multiple times...

1601
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:09,360
I mean...

1602
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:09,960
She has relatives...

1603
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:10,300
He's...

1604
00:38:10,300 --> 00:38:10,700
I mean...

1605
00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:11,470
She went there to visit her

1606
00:38:11,470 --> 00:38:12,040
family...

1607
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,000
And he went there...

1608
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,000
And surprised her...

1609
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,000
By showing up there...

1610
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:16,960
He loved Mary...

1611
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:17,260
I mean...

1612
00:38:17,260 --> 00:38:17,660
He...

1613
00:38:17,660 --> 00:38:18,880
He loved...

1614
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:19,300
Slash...

1615
00:38:19,300 --> 00:38:20,920
Loves Mary Lou...

1616
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:21,720
Even...

1617
00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:22,320
If...

1618
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,700
They broke up for some reason...

1619
00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:24,040
Or something...

1620
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:24,920
We find out...

1621
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,080
And that I don't know...

1622
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:26,980
Would he have told me that?

1623
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,160
Maybe not...

1624
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:28,400
I...

1625
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:28,760
I...

1626
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:29,480
I saw it...

1627
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:29,800
Verds...

1628
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:30,820
I'm not going in for it...

1629
00:38:30,820 --> 00:38:31,520
Because...

1630
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,300
It's just not that kind of

1631
00:38:32,300 --> 00:38:32,840
stream...

1632
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:33,160
Right now...

1633
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,200
We need to be respectful...

1634
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:34,440
You know...

1635
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,360
That kind of thing...

1636
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:35,940
That's...

1637
00:38:35,940 --> 00:38:37,160
I mean...

1638
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,700
They make jokes about the guys...

1639
00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:39,780
On the golf course...

1640
00:38:39,780 --> 00:38:40,420
Who...

1641
00:38:40,420 --> 00:38:40,660
You know...

1642
00:38:40,660 --> 00:38:42,000
Golf for three hours...

1643
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:42,620
And the wife asks them

1644
00:38:42,620 --> 00:38:43,340
afterwards...

1645
00:38:43,340 --> 00:38:44,220
You know...

1646
00:38:44,220 --> 00:38:44,420
Oh...

1647
00:38:44,420 --> 00:38:44,720
What's...

1648
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:45,960
What's happening with his wife?

1649
00:38:46,460 --> 00:38:47,340
He didn't talk about his wife...

1650
00:38:47,340 --> 00:38:48,160
I mean...

1651
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:48,960
These are people who meet on

1652
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:49,800
the golf course...

1653
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,340
Every week...

1654
00:38:50,340 --> 00:38:51,480
Okay...

1655
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:51,960
So...

1656
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:52,340
And...

1657
00:38:52,340 --> 00:38:53,340
And people joked at me about...

1658
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:55,380
That I didn't know...

1659
00:38:55,380 --> 00:38:56,670
Whether Steve was married or

1660
00:38:56,670 --> 00:38:57,340
not...

1661
00:38:57,340 --> 00:38:57,340
Steve...

1662
00:38:58,340 --> 00:38:59,520
Did...

1663
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:00,440
Anything...

1664
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:00,840
He...

1665
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:01,840
Wanted to do...

1666
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:02,840
He sure did...

1667
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:02,840
Whenever...

1668
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:03,900
Whenever he...

1669
00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:04,840
Wanted to do it...

1670
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,840
He was an independently wealthy...

1671
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,720
No ties attached...

1672
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:09,720
And that's...

1673
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:10,840
And that's the problem...

1674
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,300
That's the problem at the end

1675
00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:13,220
of the...

1676
00:39:13,220 --> 00:39:14,660
At the end of the day...

1677
00:39:14,660 --> 00:39:14,840
Guy...

1678
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,040
If he wanted to get on a plane...

1679
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:17,800
And go to Japan...

1680
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,080
And have sushi tomorrow...

1681
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:19,840
He did that...

1682
00:39:20,980 --> 00:39:21,620
Now...

1683
00:39:21,620 --> 00:39:22,000
Wow...

1684
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:22,500
He probably...

1685
00:39:22,500 --> 00:39:23,100
It's a long...

1686
00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:23,840
It's a long journey...

1687
00:39:25,220 --> 00:39:25,680
You know...

1688
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,520
It's a long way to go for sushi...

1689
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,020
But...

1690
00:39:28,020 --> 00:39:29,240
If he did do that...

1691
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:30,200
Just goes to show you...

1692
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,240
That's the kind of mind...

1693
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:32,460
That we were dealing with here...

1694
00:39:32,460 --> 00:39:32,640
Right...

1695
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,720
To get the casino to pay for it...

1696
00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:35,540
By saying...

1697
00:39:35,540 --> 00:39:36,560
He was going to go to a casino

1698
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,220
there...

1699
00:39:37,220 --> 00:39:38,280
Or something...

1700
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:38,960
But...

1701
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,480
This will all come out...

1702
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:40,960
When...

1703
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,280
If the casinos aren't lying...

1704
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,460
They comp him...

1705
00:39:44,460 --> 00:39:44,840
I mean...

1706
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:45,680
He got...

1707
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,680
Lots...

1708
00:39:48,260 --> 00:39:49,900
Of money in comps...

1709
00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:51,940
To have him gamble with them...

1710
00:39:51,940 --> 00:39:53,980
They would comp him for...

1711
00:39:53,980 --> 00:39:54,980
Lots...

1712
00:39:54,980 --> 00:39:55,660
Okay...

1713
00:39:55,660 --> 00:39:56,820
So...

1714
00:39:56,820 --> 00:39:58,500
The $100,000...

1715
00:39:58,500 --> 00:39:59,580
For Mary Lou...

1716
00:39:59,580 --> 00:40:00,840
And it's what I sent back...

1717
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:01,480
I mean...

1718
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:02,240
I'll just try to say...

1719
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:03,680
What I said before...

1720
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:04,940
That's...

1721
00:40:04,940 --> 00:40:05,660
The Steve...

1722
00:40:06,860 --> 00:40:07,620
I know...

1723
00:40:07,620 --> 00:40:08,140
That's...

1724
00:40:08,140 --> 00:40:08,660
What's...

1725
00:40:08,660 --> 00:40:09,910
That's something that makes

1726
00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:10,660
sense...

1727
00:40:11,220 --> 00:40:12,340
Steve would have wanted...

1728
00:40:12,340 --> 00:40:13,900
To take care of Mary Lou...

1729
00:40:13,900 --> 00:40:14,280
Now this is...

1730
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,540
A crack that just says...

1731
00:40:15,540 --> 00:40:16,640
People will say all sorts of

1732
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,340
stuff...

1733
00:40:17,340 --> 00:40:18,460
To try to explain...

1734
00:40:18,460 --> 00:40:19,640
A loved one who...

1735
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,760
Who does mad shit...

1736
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:21,360
It's true...

1737
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:21,620
It's...

1738
00:40:21,620 --> 00:40:21,860
It's...

1739
00:40:21,860 --> 00:40:23,220
Blood is thicker than water...

1740
00:40:23,220 --> 00:40:24,080
It's instinct...

1741
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:24,460
Isn't it...

1742
00:40:24,460 --> 00:40:25,640
To keep...

1743
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:26,020
Your...

1744
00:40:26,020 --> 00:40:26,420
Your...

1745
00:40:26,420 --> 00:40:26,800
Your...

1746
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:27,940
Your family close...

1747
00:40:27,940 --> 00:40:28,480
Keep them safe...

1748
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,700
No matter what...

1749
00:40:31,700 --> 00:40:32,300
This is my...

1750
00:40:32,300 --> 00:40:33,540
I may be wrong for the day...

1751
00:40:33,540 --> 00:40:34,490
Because I haven't talked to

1752
00:40:34,490 --> 00:40:35,200
Mary Lou...

1753
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:35,420
I'm...

1754
00:40:35,420 --> 00:40:36,120
We're not gonna...

1755
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:36,380
I mean...

1756
00:40:36,380 --> 00:40:37,660
We're not gonna chase her...

1757
00:40:37,660 --> 00:40:38,160
I mean...

1758
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:38,980
When she wants...

1759
00:40:38,980 --> 00:40:39,260
If...

1760
00:40:39,260 --> 00:40:40,640
If and when she wants to talk

1761
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:41,440
to us...

1762
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,080
We're here...

1763
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:43,500
But...

1764
00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:44,220
I mean...

1765
00:40:44,220 --> 00:40:44,500
I...

1766
00:40:44,500 --> 00:40:45,580
I don't know what the situation

1767
00:40:45,580 --> 00:40:46,080
is...

1768
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:46,830
Because maybe Steve wouldn't

1769
00:40:46,830 --> 00:40:47,460
have told me...

1770
00:40:47,460 --> 00:40:48,120
If they broke up...

1771
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,700
Because that's just the kind of...

1772
00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:50,400
And for Steve...

1773
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,760
Breaking up is a fungible thing...

1774
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,140
Because he still knows...

1775
00:40:54,140 --> 00:40:55,800
And hangs out with occasionally...

1776
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:56,300
And...

1777
00:40:56,300 --> 00:40:57,800
Talks to and...

1778
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:57,980
You know...

1779
00:40:57,980 --> 00:40:58,700
That kind of stuff...

1780
00:40:58,700 --> 00:40:58,900
His...

1781
00:40:58,900 --> 00:41:00,480
Previous relation...

1782
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,720
They got him to just speak...

1783
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:03,480
All this information...

1784
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:05,680
Which...

1785
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:06,460
I don't know...

1786
00:41:06,460 --> 00:41:06,680
Like...

1787
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:07,020
You know...

1788
00:41:07,020 --> 00:41:07,480
It's...

1789
00:41:08,020 --> 00:41:09,210
They really latched on to the

1790
00:41:09,210 --> 00:41:10,180
fact...

1791
00:41:10,180 --> 00:41:11,140
That he was a talker...

1792
00:41:11,140 --> 00:41:11,580
And thought...

1793
00:41:11,580 --> 00:41:12,180
Do you know what?

1794
00:41:12,900 --> 00:41:13,180
Yeah...

1795
00:41:13,180 --> 00:41:14,680
We got him there earlier on...

1796
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:15,380
I reckon...

1797
00:41:15,380 --> 00:41:16,480
If we wait here tonight...

1798
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:17,860
And then tomorrow...

1799
00:41:17,860 --> 00:41:18,480
When he is up tomorrow...

1800
00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:20,450
I bet you he'll fucking go

1801
00:41:20,450 --> 00:41:21,820
again...

1802
00:41:21,820 --> 00:41:23,280
And we'll bring a better camera

1803
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,640
with us this time...

1804
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:25,740
And we'll make sure...

1805
00:41:25,740 --> 00:41:26,900
We'll be able to syndicate this

1806
00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:27,480
one...

1807
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:28,480
The whole world over...

1808
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,480
There's no...

1809
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:31,640
I mean...

1810
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,080
It's not like he hates him...

1811
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,060
When he breaks up with him...

1812
00:41:34,060 --> 00:41:34,900
Kind of thing...

1813
00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:35,800
I mean...

1814
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:36,480
From...

1815
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,600
The experience...

1816
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:37,900
Eric...

1817
00:41:37,900 --> 00:41:38,920
Given what you know...

1818
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,300
About your brother...

1819
00:41:40,300 --> 00:41:41,800
What are the types of clues...

1820
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:42,460
That you think...

1821
00:41:42,460 --> 00:41:42,880
You know what?

1822
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,920
Just this kind of crack...

1823
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:45,760
Like...

1824
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:46,520
Someone...

1825
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:47,840
Some fucking...

1826
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:48,820
Clim pipe...

1827
00:41:48,820 --> 00:41:49,560
With a...

1828
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:50,800
A phone...

1829
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:51,800
In front of you...

1830
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,940
The barrier between...

1831
00:41:53,940 --> 00:41:54,980
The interviewer...

1832
00:41:54,980 --> 00:41:56,560
And the interviewee...

1833
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,200
You know when someone's...

1834
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,560
Interviewing you like this...

1835
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,360
With an iPhone...

1836
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:02,620
It's not legit man...

1837
00:42:02,620 --> 00:42:03,300
You need to...

1838
00:42:03,300 --> 00:42:04,820
You need to be in a studio...

1839
00:42:04,820 --> 00:42:06,200
You need to have...

1840
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,200
You know...

1841
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,200
Contracts signed...

1842
00:42:10,860 --> 00:42:12,440
You want a handler...

1843
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,660
All that business...

1844
00:42:13,660 --> 00:42:14,200
You don't just...

1845
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,750
Throw yourselves to the fucking

1846
00:42:16,750 --> 00:42:18,200
wolves...

1847
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,740
Right here...

1848
00:42:20,740 --> 00:42:23,750
THE CLUE THAT REVEALS STEVE IS

1849
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:26,450
THAT HE TRANSFERRED $100,000 TO

1850
00:42:26,450 --> 00:42:28,520
THE PHILIPPINES TO TAKE CARE OF

1851
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,380
MARY LOU.

1852
00:42:29,380 --> 00:42:30,980
AND YOU GUYS THINK HE'S AN EVIL

1853
00:42:30,980 --> 00:42:33,650
GENIUS. HOW CAN YOU NOT THINK

1854
00:42:33,650 --> 00:42:37,230
THAT IT'S VERY EASY THAT HE MANIPULATED

1855
00:42:37,230 --> 00:42:38,500
MARY LOU?

1856
00:42:38,500 --> 00:42:41,480
MARY LOU IS A SMART LADY. I'M

1857
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,180
NOT SAYING -- BUT HE COULD HAVE

1858
00:42:43,180 --> 00:42:44,520
VERY -- THE REASON THEY FOUND

1859
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,880
THIS STUFF IN THE MESQUIT HOUSE,

1860
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,680
HE COULD HAVE VERY EASILY NOT GONE.

1861
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,510
AND ANY HO -- I MEAN, A BUNCH

1862
00:42:52,510 --> 00:42:54,430
OF THE HOTELS. NOT ANY HOTEL,

1863
00:42:54,430 --> 00:42:56,530
BUT MANY OF THE HOTELS. HE WALKS

1864
00:42:56,530 --> 00:42:59,420
IN AND -- A BOUNCH OF THE HOTELS.

1865
00:42:59,420 --> 00:43:01,330
INTERESTING VIDEO SUGGESTIONS

1866
00:43:01,330 --> 00:43:04,140
DOWN HERE AS WELL. DANGERS OF PATHOLOGICAL

1867
00:43:04,140 --> 00:43:06,550
GAMBLING. AND THEN -- I DON'T

1868
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:08,830
KNOW HOW THIS IS RELATED TO IT

1869
00:43:08,830 --> 00:43:11,740
-- BUT NAZIS VERSUS FREEMASONS.

1870
00:43:11,740 --> 00:43:15,020
LOOTING OF THE LODGES. WHY WERE

1871
00:43:15,020 --> 00:43:18,870
THE NAZIS OBSESSED WITH FREEMASONS?

1872
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:20,620
I DON'T KNOW.

1873
00:43:20,620 --> 00:43:22,280
don't know but that video there

1874
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,160
has 3.6 million views and

1875
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,170
attempts to maybe engage with

1876
00:43:26,170 --> 00:43:26,620
those

1877
00:43:26,620 --> 00:43:28,540
questions and says give me a

1878
00:43:28,540 --> 00:43:30,030
room they give him a room for a

1879
00:43:30,030 --> 00:43:31,920
week do you feel manipulated do

1880
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:32,280
you

1881
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,350
feel what right now by by the

1882
00:43:34,350 --> 00:43:36,830
press manipulating him into

1883
00:43:36,830 --> 00:43:38,880
fucking asking questions such

1884
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:39,880
gaslighting

1885
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,400
cunts like and look at the

1886
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,160
reaction they love this they

1887
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,730
they knew that he was gonna

1888
00:43:44,730 --> 00:43:45,780
bring the fire

1889
00:43:45,780 --> 00:43:46,970
and it's this sort of body

1890
00:43:46,970 --> 00:43:48,360
language that they wanted as

1891
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,900
well because it reads really

1892
00:43:49,900 --> 00:43:51,320
uh well on camera for you know

1893
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,410
people at home sat on their

1894
00:43:52,410 --> 00:43:53,830
eyes when you know watching the

1895
00:43:53,830 --> 00:43:54,140
news

1896
00:43:54,140 --> 00:43:56,040
wanting to fucking just see

1897
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,940
something cool and unusual

1898
00:43:57,940 --> 00:43:59,910
rather than the last bunch of

1899
00:43:59,910 --> 00:44:00,720
headlines

1900
00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:02,710
that have already been seen a

1901
00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:04,470
few times on rolling news uh

1902
00:44:04,470 --> 00:44:06,440
they were given a gold mine

1903
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,560
with this book

1904
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,240
do you feel by steve do you

1905
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:11,000
feel not in any way shape or

1906
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,080
form because i understand once

1907
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:13,520
again

1908
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,750
the steve i knew here okay steve's

1909
00:44:16,750 --> 00:44:19,770
manipulation it was fun to hang

1910
00:44:19,770 --> 00:44:22,660
out with steve because he was a

1911
00:44:22,660 --> 00:44:23,220
rich

1912
00:44:23,220 --> 00:44:25,100
guy who hung out in the hotels

1913
00:44:25,100 --> 00:44:27,240
okay when here's i told this

1914
00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:29,400
story already what did the guy

1915
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:30,000
say the

1916
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,540
the reporter asked him do you

1917
00:44:31,540 --> 00:44:32,690
feel like you've been

1918
00:44:32,690 --> 00:44:34,310
manipulated drove out to pick

1919
00:44:34,310 --> 00:44:35,300
my son up to bring

1920
00:44:35,300 --> 00:44:36,570
him back here we came back

1921
00:44:36,570 --> 00:44:37,510
through vegas to see steve

1922
00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:38,450
because i want my kids

1923
00:44:38,450 --> 00:44:39,700
occasionally to see their

1924
00:44:39,700 --> 00:44:40,850
uncle you know but we live on

1925
00:44:40,850 --> 00:44:42,100
different coasts than that so

1926
00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:43,300
when we're in the vicinity we

1927
00:44:43,300 --> 00:44:43,920
try to see him

1928
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,560
i mean i would have seen him

1929
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,520
more recently this year we were

1930
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,770
out in the motor home in yellowstone

1931
00:44:49,770 --> 00:44:50,440
but we

1932
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:51,990
we're gonna go by reno and see

1933
00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:53,470
him and but we didn't make it

1934
00:44:53,470 --> 00:44:55,890
because it snowed on us and so

1935
00:44:55,890 --> 00:44:56,760
i didn't see him

1936
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,010
but we with my son we stopped

1937
00:44:59,010 --> 00:45:01,010
we ate in one of the best in

1938
00:45:01,010 --> 00:45:03,480
the fusion restaurant i highly

1939
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,000
recommend the

1940
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,410
the fusion restaurant i can't

1941
00:45:06,410 --> 00:45:07,540
think of the name but the

1942
00:45:07,540 --> 00:45:09,010
fusion restaurant to win we ate

1943
00:45:09,010 --> 00:45:09,720
thousands of

1944
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:11,560
dollars of sushi comped you

1945
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,410
know you can find the date

1946
00:45:13,410 --> 00:45:15,480
because when they look at steve's

1947
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:16,060
records

1948
00:45:16,060 --> 00:45:18,300
his credit card paid for the

1949
00:45:18,300 --> 00:45:20,640
tip and that's it the details

1950
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,110
are insane we ate thousands of

1951
00:45:23,110 --> 00:45:23,940
dollars

1952
00:45:23,940 --> 00:45:26,060
of sushi wow so it was fun it

1953
00:45:26,060 --> 00:45:28,620
was fun with steve richie thank

1954
00:45:28,620 --> 00:45:30,460
you very much sir have a

1955
00:45:30,460 --> 00:45:31,420
wonderful

1956
00:45:31,420 --> 00:45:32,930
evening on you but did he have

1957
00:45:32,930 --> 00:45:34,430
a lot of friends well get on to

1958
00:45:34,430 --> 00:45:36,030
some more normal stuff after

1959
00:45:36,030 --> 00:45:36,620
this so just

1960
00:45:36,620 --> 00:45:39,010
want to quickly again it's good

1961
00:45:39,010 --> 00:45:41,220
to have a refresher on how you

1962
00:45:41,220 --> 00:45:43,530
know if a situation was to ever

1963
00:45:43,530 --> 00:45:44,100
occur

1964
00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:46,760
where somebody close to you had

1965
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,400
done something never ever agree

1966
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,580
to a doorstep press gaggle

1967
00:45:51,580 --> 00:45:53,620
outside your house it's not

1968
00:45:53,620 --> 00:45:55,580
gonna go well no that's once

1969
00:45:55,580 --> 00:45:57,540
again that's i think the media

1970
00:45:57,540 --> 00:45:58,520
over here maybe

1971
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,200
would be a little bit more

1972
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,370
tasteful and maybe gentlemanly

1973
00:46:02,370 --> 00:46:03,980
about it they wouldn't

1974
00:46:03,980 --> 00:46:06,090
they wouldn't do it could be

1975
00:46:06,090 --> 00:46:08,290
wrong i don't know just in the

1976
00:46:08,290 --> 00:46:10,320
states it's another it's a

1977
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,960
whole new ball game

1978
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,000
we're getting to with mary lou

1979
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,940
that's why that makes sense i

1980
00:46:15,940 --> 00:46:17,740
mean as as what must be that

1981
00:46:17,740 --> 00:46:18,260
steve

1982
00:46:18,260 --> 00:46:20,810
was cratering into this hell

1983
00:46:20,810 --> 00:46:23,060
that he wanted to take care of

1984
00:46:23,060 --> 00:46:25,380
mary lou he sent some money

1985
00:46:25,380 --> 00:46:26,260
where it's

1986
00:46:26,260 --> 00:46:27,760
available to her i don't know

1987
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,180
if they can claw it back or da

1988
00:46:29,180 --> 00:46:30,600
da da maybe he i mean for a few

1989
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:31,180
as do you

1990
00:46:31,180 --> 00:46:33,270
think he ever watches this back

1991
00:46:33,270 --> 00:46:35,270
and has a good laugh about dogs

1992
00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:36,950
get them while you can you

1993
00:46:36,950 --> 00:46:37,920
would have to

1994
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,450
yeah think today's the last

1995
00:46:40,450 --> 00:46:43,640
realistically not realistically

1996
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,060
not but the chance is still

1997
00:46:46,060 --> 00:46:46,640
there

1998
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:47,840
for him if it was steve he

1999
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,230
probably said it you know in

2000
00:46:49,230 --> 00:46:50,790
the future like you know we had

2001
00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:51,440
a few drinks

2002
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,040
and then you watch it back and

2003
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,700
i can't believe i fucking said

2004
00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:55,020
that

2005
00:46:55,020 --> 00:46:57,760
for half an hour thank you very

2006
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,140
much there richie and miss soj

2007
00:47:00,140 --> 00:47:02,420
so homo thank you very much

2008
00:47:02,420 --> 00:47:03,990
bank where it got turned into

2009
00:47:03,990 --> 00:47:05,280
cash in the philippines or

2010
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:06,990
something and was withdrawn or

2011
00:47:06,990 --> 00:47:08,020
something because

2012
00:47:08,020 --> 00:47:09,310
he probably was steve if you

2013
00:47:09,310 --> 00:47:10,640
want to think steve's an evil

2014
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,060
genius how can you not think it

2015
00:47:12,060 --> 00:47:12,300
was

2016
00:47:12,300 --> 00:47:14,120
easy enough for him to come up

2017
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,010
with a scheme to take the money

2018
00:47:16,010 --> 00:47:17,910
and have it available for mary

2019
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:18,220
lou

2020
00:47:18,220 --> 00:47:20,100
in a place where she would be

2021
00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:22,290
safer to be he wanted her and i

2022
00:47:22,290 --> 00:47:23,950
mean this is today's thing i

2023
00:47:23,950 --> 00:47:25,100
might be wrong

2024
00:47:25,100 --> 00:47:27,830
about he wanted he manipulated

2025
00:47:27,830 --> 00:47:30,130
her to be completely as far

2026
00:47:30,130 --> 00:47:32,750
away from this and safe when he

2027
00:47:32,750 --> 00:47:33,580
did this

2028
00:47:33,580 --> 00:47:35,290
because maybe if he wanted to i

2029
00:47:35,290 --> 00:47:36,760
mean he wanted to make sure she

2030
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,220
had money she wanted to make

2031
00:47:38,220 --> 00:47:38,580
sure

2032
00:47:38,580 --> 00:47:40,080
the same exact thing the first

2033
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,590
thing that came to my mind was

2034
00:47:41,590 --> 00:47:42,780
that she didn't get shot

2035
00:47:42,780 --> 00:47:43,760
because she

2036
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,810
was walking through the hotel

2037
00:47:45,810 --> 00:47:47,350
when the cops came in and her

2038
00:47:47,350 --> 00:47:49,160
picture started flashing or

2039
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,280
something must

2040
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,050
feel so ironic that he would

2041
00:47:52,050 --> 00:47:53,980
take such great care of her yet

2042
00:47:53,980 --> 00:47:55,820
no who's this guy like trying

2043
00:47:55,820 --> 00:47:56,660
to play the

2044
00:47:56,660 --> 00:48:00,630
empath card must feel so ironic

2045
00:48:00,630 --> 00:48:04,390
that oh no the cops came in and

2046
00:48:04,390 --> 00:48:08,500
her picture started flashing or

2047
00:48:08,500 --> 00:48:10,300
something must feel so ironic

2048
00:48:10,300 --> 00:48:12,030
that he would take such great

2049
00:48:12,030 --> 00:48:13,810
care of her yet no so disregard

2050
00:48:13,810 --> 00:48:14,580
for the

2051
00:48:14,580 --> 00:48:17,220
ironic who he's kind of like

2052
00:48:17,220 --> 00:48:20,190
matt damon-esque uh dexter the

2053
00:48:20,190 --> 00:48:22,890
the series about the serial

2054
00:48:22,890 --> 00:48:24,220
killer who kills

2055
00:48:24,220 --> 00:48:27,000
other serial killers or that

2056
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,780
fella who was in breaking bad

2057
00:48:29,780 --> 00:48:32,230
the one with the uh who who

2058
00:48:32,230 --> 00:48:33,460
shot the kid

2059
00:48:33,460 --> 00:48:37,080
Jesse Plemons.

2060
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,980
Steve, somebody else says

2061
00:48:49,980 --> 00:48:51,560
Steve Stanton.

2062
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:58,880
Somebody else says

2063
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,500
Donald Ressler. Don't even know

2064
00:49:01,500 --> 00:49:02,080
who that is.

2065
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:06,240
Another person says

2066
00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:08,400
Clem Lemons.

2067
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,680
Steve Hansen.

2068
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,300
What's that sound effect? I don't

2069
00:49:21,300 --> 00:49:22,300
know. It's a generic

2070
00:49:22,300 --> 00:49:24,540
sound

2071
00:49:24,540 --> 00:49:28,720
on the soundboard. I don't know

2072
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:29,460
where it's from.

2073
00:49:29,460 --> 00:49:33,620
No. This... Well, the ironic...

2074
00:49:33,620 --> 00:49:33,620
Yes. I guess

2075
00:49:33,620 --> 00:49:35,480
that's not exactly... I don't

2076
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:36,980
know a better word for it, but

2077
00:49:36,980 --> 00:49:37,620
yes, but...

2078
00:49:37,620 --> 00:49:39,320
the people he loved he took

2079
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:40,980
care of, and as he was

2080
00:49:40,980 --> 00:49:42,900
descending into hell...

2081
00:49:42,900 --> 00:49:43,620
What?

2082
00:49:43,620 --> 00:49:45,050
He wanted to try to take care

2083
00:49:45,050 --> 00:49:45,620
of her.

2084
00:49:45,620 --> 00:49:46,650
Is that why this is so hard to

2085
00:49:46,650 --> 00:49:47,620
wrap your head around?

2086
00:49:47,620 --> 00:49:50,490
That's exactly... Is this why

2087
00:49:50,490 --> 00:49:51,780
it's so hard to wrap your head

2088
00:49:51,780 --> 00:49:51,780
around?

2089
00:49:51,780 --> 00:49:52,820
your head around.

2090
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,200
The Steve I know,

2091
00:49:56,620 --> 00:49:57,360
this is like,

2092
00:49:57,740 --> 00:49:59,960
he knew he had brain cancer

2093
00:49:59,960 --> 00:50:00,180
and was gonna die in six months.

2094
00:50:00,180 --> 00:50:01,170
I love the way that they've

2095
00:50:01,170 --> 00:50:02,380
just gone into the fucking

2096
00:50:02,380 --> 00:50:04,620
cup and the hand like that

2097
00:50:04,620 --> 00:50:05,860
to illustrate

2098
00:50:05,860 --> 00:50:09,180
his body language.

2099
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:10,620
Thank you very much, sir, Steve.

2100
00:50:11,140 --> 00:50:11,980
He's not the...

2101
00:50:11,980 --> 00:50:13,470
Who says Freemasons versus

2102
00:50:13,470 --> 00:50:13,840
Nazis

2103
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,120
is the Anthony Joshua versus

2104
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,760
Jake Paul undercard.

2105
00:50:18,500 --> 00:50:20,000
And that's gonna be an

2106
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,760
interesting fight.

2107
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,920
to witness at some stage

2108
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,700
if and when it occurs

2109
00:50:27,700 --> 00:50:28,720
and it will occur.

2110
00:50:29,140 --> 00:50:29,760
It will occur.

2111
00:50:30,660 --> 00:50:31,470
The kind of guy who would have

2112
00:50:31,470 --> 00:50:32,700
gone into the hospital for

2113
00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:33,180
treatment.

2114
00:50:33,860 --> 00:50:35,520
He would have died.

2115
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:37,500
Now, how this...

2116
00:50:37,500 --> 00:50:38,440
I mean, once again, how this

2117
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:38,840
happened,

2118
00:50:39,820 --> 00:50:40,580
what he did,

2119
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,710
but he would have taken care of

2120
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:43,340
Mary Lou

2121
00:50:43,340 --> 00:50:45,910
because he took care of the

2122
00:50:45,910 --> 00:50:46,640
people

2123
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,120
who he was friends with,

2124
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:48,840
who he was with.

2125
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,080
And, you know,

2126
00:50:51,140 --> 00:50:52,220
if you think he's such an evil

2127
00:50:52,220 --> 00:50:52,620
genius,

2128
00:50:52,780 --> 00:50:53,300
he...

2129
00:50:53,300 --> 00:50:55,110
And how could he not just

2130
00:50:55,110 --> 00:50:55,300
manipulate...

2131
00:50:55,300 --> 00:50:57,190
Who's saying that he's an evil

2132
00:50:57,190 --> 00:50:57,920
genius?

2133
00:50:58,460 --> 00:50:59,520
Buckingham of Baghdad.

2134
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:00,160
Thank you very much.

2135
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:01,760
Because they stopped in Reno

2136
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,600
and then she flew down to see

2137
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,300
her parents or her kid or

2138
00:51:05,300 --> 00:51:06,100
something

2139
00:51:06,100 --> 00:51:08,200
and he flew over here and they...

2140
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,140
I mean, there's...

2141
00:51:10,140 --> 00:51:11,980
Him getting on a plane and

2142
00:51:11,980 --> 00:51:13,280
flying somewhere

2143
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,300
is like you going to Publix.

2144
00:51:17,300 --> 00:51:18,770
I mean, it's something he just

2145
00:51:18,770 --> 00:51:20,340
does every week.

2146
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,380
You used the phrase evil genius.

2147
00:51:22,380 --> 00:51:23,600
Do you think that he was?

2148
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:24,400
I'm sorry.

2149
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:25,390
I mean, that's the thing I

2150
00:51:25,390 --> 00:51:26,380
shouldn't have said.

2151
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:27,620
But that's what people are...

2152
00:51:27,620 --> 00:51:29,380
I mean, that he's just...

2153
00:51:29,380 --> 00:51:29,680
You know?

2154
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,120
But he's a highly intelligent...

2155
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:32,420
What...

2156
00:51:32,420 --> 00:51:33,500
I mean, there's absolutely no...

2157
00:51:33,500 --> 00:51:34,630
And this is the other part that

2158
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:35,780
I want to stress with this.

2159
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:36,500
That...

2160
00:51:36,500 --> 00:51:37,590
I mean, it doesn't matter that

2161
00:51:37,590 --> 00:51:38,520
they won't chase people.

2162
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:39,580
But people are saying,

2163
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:40,560
Oh, he must have had help.

2164
00:51:41,340 --> 00:51:42,820
Steve had no help.

2165
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,200
Steve didn't take help.

2166
00:51:44,540 --> 00:51:45,750
It did not take a village for

2167
00:51:45,750 --> 00:51:46,320
Steve.

2168
00:51:46,740 --> 00:51:48,080
Steve was an arm...

2169
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:48,620
I'm sorry.

2170
00:51:50,260 --> 00:51:51,260
Please don't.

2171
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:53,760
I'm using a colloquial...

2172
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,010
I was about to use a colloquial

2173
00:51:55,010 --> 00:51:55,160
term

2174
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,020
that would besmudge one of the

2175
00:51:57,020 --> 00:51:58,140
armed forces.

2176
00:51:58,620 --> 00:52:01,220
Steve was a standalone guy.

2177
00:52:02,060 --> 00:52:02,540
Okay?

2178
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:04,160
Steve...

2179
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:04,960
Sorry there.

2180
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,000
I know I said that we need to

2181
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:07,720
treat this

2182
00:52:07,720 --> 00:52:09,220
with the respect and dignity it

2183
00:52:09,220 --> 00:52:09,920
deserves.

2184
00:52:10,260 --> 00:52:11,700
I think we need to move away

2185
00:52:11,700 --> 00:52:12,900
because I'm getting fucking

2186
00:52:12,900 --> 00:52:13,780
laughed out here.

2187
00:52:15,140 --> 00:52:15,940
Brapsanigan.

2188
00:52:16,060 --> 00:52:16,720
Thank you very much.

2189
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:17,880
This guy is in shock.

2190
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:20,340
This guy is in fucking shock.

2191
00:52:20,420 --> 00:52:21,220
And the media are a cunt for

2192
00:52:21,220 --> 00:52:21,880
fucking...

2193
00:52:23,100 --> 00:52:24,380
exploiting that.

2194
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,340
Thank you very much, Brapsanigan.

2195
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:28,360
And Buck Keaton.

2196
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:30,240
If...

2197
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:31,850
If you wanted to hang out with

2198
00:52:31,850 --> 00:52:32,380
Steve,

2199
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:33,980
you hung out with Steve,

2200
00:52:33,980 --> 00:52:35,560
but you had to understand Steve

2201
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:36,680
was a little quirky.

2202
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:37,680
Here...

2203
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:38,740
Here...

2204
00:52:38,740 --> 00:52:39,940
I mean, here's the story.

2205
00:52:40,260 --> 00:52:41,460
You know, here's how Steve is.

2206
00:52:42,020 --> 00:52:42,680
I would go...

2207
00:52:43,340 --> 00:52:44,070
You know, when I was flying or

2208
00:52:44,070 --> 00:52:44,660
whatever,

2209
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:45,800
if he was in town and I

2210
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:46,780
happened to be flying over,

2211
00:52:46,860 --> 00:52:48,680
I'd stop in where, you know,

2212
00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:49,750
we'd go to the hotel and stay

2213
00:52:49,750 --> 00:52:50,200
at the hotel

2214
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:51,140
for a couple days or something

2215
00:52:51,140 --> 00:52:52,330
and sit under the cabana or

2216
00:52:52,330 --> 00:52:53,400
something like that.

2217
00:52:53,720 --> 00:52:55,680
But with Steve, it was...

2218
00:52:56,220 --> 00:52:57,680
It was like...

2219
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:00,440
He'd spend...

2220
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:00,880
He'd spend...

2221
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:01,440
You know, he'd...

2222
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:02,120
I'd get...

2223
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:03,460
I'd get to be...

2224
00:53:03,460 --> 00:53:05,190
Partake of a bunch of thousands

2225
00:53:05,190 --> 00:53:05,840
of dollars

2226
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,140
of comps on the hotel.

2227
00:53:07,900 --> 00:53:09,280
But Steve would say...

2228
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:09,900
Oh...

2229
00:53:09,900 --> 00:53:10,920
Do you know what?

2230
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,030
It was like when the event

2231
00:53:12,030 --> 00:53:12,600
happened,

2232
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,470
it was so insane to comprehend

2233
00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:15,180
anyway.

2234
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:17,510
And then when this video came

2235
00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:19,080
out the day after,

2236
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:20,440
it just made it...

2237
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,070
As if it couldn't get any more

2238
00:53:23,070 --> 00:53:23,800
insane.

2239
00:53:24,340 --> 00:53:26,000
It got well more insane.

2240
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,270
And I don't think it's ever not

2241
00:53:28,270 --> 00:53:29,540
been insane.

2242
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,100
Nobody has ever gone...

2243
00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:32,660
Do you know what?

2244
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,080
That stuff that happened there.

2245
00:53:34,500 --> 00:53:35,300
I'll tell you what happened.

2246
00:53:35,380 --> 00:53:36,700
I'll tell you what went wrong.

2247
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,060
And why X, Y, Z.

2248
00:53:38,340 --> 00:53:40,480
It's just never come out, so...

2249
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:41,560
All we're left with is these

2250
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:42,260
breadcrumbs.

2251
00:53:42,860 --> 00:53:43,500
Thank you very much.

2252
00:53:43,580 --> 00:53:44,720
They're stand-alones.

2253
00:53:45,060 --> 00:53:46,420
Steve, so he was gonna say he's

2254
00:53:46,420 --> 00:53:47,480
a stand-up guy.

2255
00:53:47,940 --> 00:53:50,000
But then he said he's a stand-alone

2256
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:50,620
guy.

2257
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:51,880
Which made...

2258
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:52,920
Which made sense.

2259
00:53:53,300 --> 00:53:55,360
Because he was a lone wolf.

2260
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:56,880
In the actual event that

2261
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,200
happened as well.

2262
00:53:59,140 --> 00:54:00,320
Can you go get me a sandwich?

2263
00:54:01,820 --> 00:54:02,520
Well, of course.

2264
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:03,620
But Steve would say,

2265
00:54:03,940 --> 00:54:04,700
Oh, can you go get me a

2266
00:54:04,700 --> 00:54:05,400
sandwich?

2267
00:54:06,900 --> 00:54:07,680
Well, of course.

2268
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:08,300
I knew.

2269
00:54:08,820 --> 00:54:09,720
I mean, someone might not

2270
00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:11,260
understand that...

2271
00:54:11,260 --> 00:54:12,340
You know, that...

2272
00:54:12,340 --> 00:54:13,700
That's the cost of being with

2273
00:54:13,700 --> 00:54:14,180
Steve.

2274
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:15,840
Is that you have to...

2275
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,340
You would go get him a sandwich

2276
00:54:17,340 --> 00:54:18,220
if you needed a sandwich.

2277
00:54:18,420 --> 00:54:19,320
Because Steve didn't want to...

2278
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:21,040
You know, this...

2279
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,120
I wouldn't like that as my

2280
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:22,900
brother...

2281
00:54:22,900 --> 00:54:24,880
If my brother was just like...

2282
00:54:26,020 --> 00:54:26,580
Go and get me a fucking

2283
00:54:26,580 --> 00:54:27,680
sandwich.

2284
00:54:27,940 --> 00:54:29,880
Like, just out of nowhere.

2285
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,070
Like, you're enjoying thousands

2286
00:54:32,070 --> 00:54:33,870
of dollars worth of fucking

2287
00:54:33,870 --> 00:54:34,460
food.

2288
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:35,740
And you're stuffing your face.

2289
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:36,400
And you're like...

2290
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,660
Yeah.

2291
00:54:39,660 --> 00:54:39,740
Yeah.

2292
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,580
Go get me a fucking sandwich

2293
00:54:41,580 --> 00:54:42,080
now.

2294
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:43,960
I wouldn't do that.

2295
00:54:44,060 --> 00:54:44,740
I wouldn't like it.

2296
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:46,380
But he seems to be...

2297
00:54:46,380 --> 00:54:48,000
He seems to have been okay with

2298
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:48,340
it.

2299
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:50,340
But maybe they should have...

2300
00:54:50,340 --> 00:54:51,280
They should have pulled him up

2301
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:51,920
on that and said,

2302
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,590
Steve, you can't be like that

2303
00:54:53,590 --> 00:54:54,860
to people, buddy.

2304
00:54:55,540 --> 00:54:56,440
That's not right.

2305
00:54:56,620 --> 00:54:57,680
It's not the way the world is

2306
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:58,380
meant to be.

2307
00:54:58,580 --> 00:54:59,420
You need to have respect.

2308
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,130
Nonsense about how did he get

2309
00:55:02,130 --> 00:55:03,420
the guns into the...

2310
00:55:04,260 --> 00:55:05,110
You take a hundred dollar bill

2311
00:55:05,110 --> 00:55:06,460
and you hand...

2312
00:55:06,460 --> 00:55:07,040
Oh, I'm sorry.

2313
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:08,040
You take a hundred dollar bill

2314
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,420
and you hand it to the bell cap...

2315
00:55:09,420 --> 00:55:11,680
I'm sorry.

2316
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,040
Go get me a kebab.

2317
00:55:16,300 --> 00:55:17,600
Go and get me a roll.

2318
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:19,460
Thank you.

2319
00:55:19,860 --> 00:55:20,900
Great rain.

2320
00:55:21,780 --> 00:55:22,580
Thank you very much.

2321
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:25,060
He clicked at the microphone

2322
00:55:25,060 --> 00:55:27,280
there and apologized.

2323
00:55:27,940 --> 00:55:28,740
So he's got...

2324
00:55:28,740 --> 00:55:30,240
You know, this nonsense about

2325
00:55:30,240 --> 00:55:31,490
how did he get the guns into

2326
00:55:31,490 --> 00:55:32,300
the...

2327
00:55:32,300 --> 00:55:33,600
You take a hundred dollar bill

2328
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:34,580
and you hand...

2329
00:55:34,580 --> 00:55:35,740
Look at this.

2330
00:55:36,020 --> 00:55:36,980
The title.

2331
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:39,740
You knew they loved this in the

2332
00:55:39,740 --> 00:55:41,240
studio look.

2333
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:43,600
Okay, run that.

2334
00:55:43,740 --> 00:55:45,860
We need to get a new strand up.

2335
00:55:46,580 --> 00:55:47,460
Gunman's brother.

2336
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,640
Steve was a little quirky.

2337
00:55:53,380 --> 00:55:54,200
Hold on, sorry.

2338
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:55,130
You take a hundred dollar bill

2339
00:55:55,130 --> 00:55:56,420
and you hand it to the bell cap...

2340
00:55:56,420 --> 00:55:57,570
And they go, oh, Mr. Fadock, oh,

2341
00:55:57,570 --> 00:55:57,800
hi.

2342
00:55:58,140 --> 00:55:58,900
Oh, you got a couple...

2343
00:55:58,900 --> 00:55:59,980
The bell cap.

2344
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:02,840
Blame it on the bell boy.

2345
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:03,800
Why don't you?

2346
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,020
Okay, we'll take those up.

2347
00:56:05,580 --> 00:56:06,220
And that's exactly what

2348
00:56:06,220 --> 00:56:06,880
happened.

2349
00:56:07,820 --> 00:56:08,880
He'd be tipping the bell boy...

2350
00:56:09,660 --> 00:56:10,900
And the bell boy would bring up

2351
00:56:10,900 --> 00:56:12,740
bag after bag after bag.

2352
00:56:12,780 --> 00:56:14,090
These bags are really heavy, Mr.

2353
00:56:14,090 --> 00:56:14,500
Steve.

2354
00:56:15,220 --> 00:56:15,880
And that's...

2355
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:17,310
What was in them was the

2356
00:56:17,310 --> 00:56:18,820
fucking guns, like...

2357
00:56:18,820 --> 00:56:20,900
I mean, there's no magic there.

2358
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:23,090
You never knew him to be an

2359
00:56:23,090 --> 00:56:24,580
angry person.

2360
00:56:26,860 --> 00:56:28,160
If you want to...

2361
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,490
If you're going to call him

2362
00:56:29,490 --> 00:56:30,400
crazy...

2363
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,040
If we were going to call him

2364
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,720
crazy because he's an angry

2365
00:56:33,720 --> 00:56:35,530
person, then you had better

2366
00:56:35,530 --> 00:56:37,440
call everybody on the news from

2367
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,450
4 o'clock to 12 o'clock at

2368
00:56:39,450 --> 00:56:41,060
night a crazy person.

2369
00:56:41,300 --> 00:56:41,540
Okay?

2370
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:42,700
That's the end of the day.

2371
00:56:42,940 --> 00:56:43,920
Was he an angel?

2372
00:56:44,300 --> 00:56:45,780
Of course he wasn't an angel.

2373
00:56:45,900 --> 00:56:46,660
Did he...

2374
00:56:46,660 --> 00:56:48,370
About people who annoyed the

2375
00:56:48,370 --> 00:56:49,480
crap out of him?

2376
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:50,660
Of course he did.

2377
00:56:51,220 --> 00:56:51,340
What?

2378
00:56:52,220 --> 00:56:53,660
But I'm not talking about that.

2379
00:56:53,740 --> 00:56:54,600
I mean, I...

2380
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:55,260
You know, I...

2381
00:56:55,260 --> 00:56:55,800
Find...

2382
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,600
You find me...

2383
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:58,800
Anything...

2384
00:56:58,800 --> 00:56:59,440
Anywhere.

2385
00:56:59,900 --> 00:57:01,240
People who...

2386
00:57:01,240 --> 00:57:03,520
Who have no reason to tell you...

2387
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:04,920
That he was a...

2388
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:05,460
A nice...

2389
00:57:05,460 --> 00:57:07,000
Just interesting to get a look

2390
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:07,740
at the setup.

2391
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,100
Like, the gaggle there.

2392
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:11,480
They're well set up.

2393
00:57:11,780 --> 00:57:12,800
They knew what they were going

2394
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:13,280
to get.

2395
00:57:13,460 --> 00:57:16,100
They brought tripods.

2396
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:16,720
You find...

2397
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:18,220
Me.

2398
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:20,210
There's like 20 people there,

2399
00:57:20,210 --> 00:57:20,920
you know?

2400
00:57:21,220 --> 00:57:21,760
Anything.

2401
00:57:22,860 --> 00:57:23,890
Size of the fucking camera

2402
00:57:23,890 --> 00:57:24,660
units.

2403
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:25,300
Anywhere.

2404
00:57:26,660 --> 00:57:27,680
And then they're getting his

2405
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,640
number plate in and everything.

2406
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,640
I mean...

2407
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,040
Would you want the whole world

2408
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:34,270
to see your fucking number

2409
00:57:34,270 --> 00:57:35,500
plate and your...

2410
00:57:35,500 --> 00:57:36,560
Your gaff and all that?

2411
00:57:36,620 --> 00:57:37,540
I suppose he doesn't care.

2412
00:57:38,060 --> 00:57:39,360
I suppose it was a case of...

2413
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:40,910
I'd just best just go out there

2414
00:57:40,910 --> 00:57:41,960
and show...

2415
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:42,620
People that...

2416
00:57:42,620 --> 00:57:43,120
Look...

2417
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,200
Nothing to hide here.

2418
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:47,460
Steve went crazy.

2419
00:57:47,900 --> 00:57:48,500
But I'm...

2420
00:57:48,500 --> 00:57:49,400
Everything else is sound.

2421
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:50,580
People who...

2422
00:57:50,580 --> 00:57:52,580
Who have no reason to tell you...

2423
00:57:53,100 --> 00:57:54,320
That he was a...

2424
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:55,420
A nice guy.

2425
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,540
People who used to pay him rent.

2426
00:57:58,220 --> 00:57:59,840
I mean, the story about the...

2427
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:01,170
About our apartments that we

2428
00:58:01,170 --> 00:58:01,580
have.

2429
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:02,930
The guy says, oh, and by the

2430
00:58:02,930 --> 00:58:03,640
way...

2431
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:04,800
You know, the place sucked when

2432
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:05,540
we moved...

2433
00:58:05,540 --> 00:58:06,500
When we bought it.

2434
00:58:06,740 --> 00:58:07,980
We fixed it up and made a nice

2435
00:58:07,980 --> 00:58:09,860
place for these people to live.

2436
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:11,110
Seems to know his way around

2437
00:58:11,110 --> 00:58:11,540
the block.

2438
00:58:12,020 --> 00:58:12,580
How about you?

2439
00:58:13,300 --> 00:58:14,300
Thank you very much, sir.

2440
00:58:14,500 --> 00:58:15,660
Have you ever seen...

2441
00:58:15,660 --> 00:58:16,800
Tommy playing DayZ?

2442
00:58:17,340 --> 00:58:19,160
I fucking haven't.

2443
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:20,940
I haven't.

2444
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,070
But as a few people telling me

2445
00:58:22,070 --> 00:58:22,760
that...

2446
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:23,920
You know, they're saying, will

2447
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:24,780
he not play it again?

2448
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:26,600
And, you know, I'd say he will

2449
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,320
be on at some stage...

2450
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,040
And they're not too distant.

2451
00:58:29,180 --> 00:58:30,440
Thank you very much, David Sheridan.

2452
00:58:30,500 --> 00:58:32,160
And Steve gave him...

2453
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,880
I mean, gave him cheap rent...

2454
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,580
Because we wanted happy people.

2455
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:37,600
Nice people in our apartments.

2456
00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:39,220
He said, yeah, he had a quirky

2457
00:58:39,220 --> 00:58:40,120
sense of humor.

2458
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:41,410
What the hell is a quirky sense

2459
00:58:41,410 --> 00:58:41,980
of humor?

2460
00:58:42,100 --> 00:58:43,730
People watch movies where they

2461
00:58:43,730 --> 00:58:44,980
butcher little kids.

2462
00:58:45,860 --> 00:58:47,380
What the hell are you...

2463
00:58:47,380 --> 00:58:49,340
This is why everybody...

2464
00:58:49,340 --> 00:58:50,860
And here's my diatribe for the

2465
00:58:50,860 --> 00:58:51,300
day.

2466
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,030
This is what everybody's so

2467
00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:54,720
scared about right now.

2468
00:58:55,140 --> 00:58:57,180
When Steve can do this...

2469
00:58:57,180 --> 00:58:59,400
We are in deep shit.

2470
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:01,900
In fairness, that's true.

2471
00:59:02,100 --> 00:59:03,210
Because there's just nothing

2472
00:59:03,210 --> 00:59:03,680
there.

2473
00:59:04,100 --> 00:59:05,380
There's just nothing there.

2474
00:59:05,500 --> 00:59:06,810
There's just an empty,

2475
00:59:06,810 --> 00:59:08,400
spiritualist...

2476
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:09,820
Empty shell of a man.

2477
00:59:09,820 --> 00:59:12,080
And then...

2478
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:13,820
The ability to go and acquire...

2479
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,820
Truckloads of fucking ammo...

2480
00:59:16,820 --> 00:59:17,840
And guns.

2481
00:59:18,060 --> 00:59:18,900
And then let rip.

2482
00:59:20,220 --> 00:59:20,960
So it could have...

2483
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:21,900
I'm surprised it hasn't

2484
00:59:21,900 --> 00:59:22,740
happened again.

2485
00:59:23,460 --> 00:59:23,820
You know, in...

2486
00:59:24,980 --> 00:59:26,030
I mean, there's been mass

2487
00:59:26,030 --> 00:59:27,160
shootings, of course.

2488
00:59:27,260 --> 00:59:29,300
But not as fucking calculated

2489
00:59:29,300 --> 00:59:31,460
and devastating as that one.

2490
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:32,320
I don't think.

2491
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,390
Find me where someone who's

2492
00:59:34,390 --> 00:59:36,020
like Steve...

2493
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,020
Does this...

2494
00:59:39,020 --> 00:59:41,020
I hope the hell they find...

2495
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,020
When they do the autopsy...

2496
00:59:43,740 --> 00:59:44,600
That there's a tumor in his

2497
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:45,980
head or something.

2498
00:59:46,460 --> 00:59:48,020
Because if they don't...

2499
00:59:48,020 --> 00:59:49,280
We're all in trouble.

2500
00:59:50,580 --> 00:59:52,340
Because this is...

2501
00:59:52,340 --> 00:59:53,020
Steve was just...

2502
00:59:53,660 --> 00:59:54,020
I mean...

2503
00:59:54,820 --> 00:59:55,660
Steve's dead.

2504
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:56,830
You can't say anything bad

2505
00:59:56,830 --> 00:59:57,820
about him anymore.

2506
00:59:57,820 --> 00:59:58,680
Because who cares?

2507
00:59:58,820 --> 01:00:00,220
Say whatever you want about him.

2508
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:00,760
I don't...

2509
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:01,920
It's not gonna hurt me.

2510
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:03,940
Something horrible happened to

2511
01:00:03,940 --> 01:00:04,860
my brother.

2512
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:06,700
And whatever happened to him in

2513
01:00:06,700 --> 01:00:07,860
his head...

2514
01:00:08,540 --> 01:00:10,190
That made him go over the edge

2515
01:00:10,190 --> 01:00:11,860
like this...

2516
01:00:12,460 --> 01:00:12,860
You don't...

2517
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:13,860
You know...

2518
01:00:14,380 --> 01:00:15,720
When the lights go out at night...

2519
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:16,540
And you lay your head on your

2520
01:00:16,540 --> 01:00:17,140
pillow...

2521
01:00:17,140 --> 01:00:18,140
Serious here...

2522
01:00:18,140 --> 01:00:18,420
Kieran says...

2523
01:00:18,420 --> 01:00:20,580
Benjamin Hoskins Paddock Jr.

2524
01:00:20,780 --> 01:00:22,100
Was an American bank robber and

2525
01:00:22,100 --> 01:00:22,980
con man...

2526
01:00:22,980 --> 01:00:24,350
Who was on the FBI 10 most

2527
01:00:24,350 --> 01:00:25,920
wanted futures list...

2528
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,180
From 1969 to 1977...

2529
01:00:28,180 --> 01:00:30,180
He was also the father...

2530
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:31,960
Of Stephen Paddock.

2531
01:00:33,020 --> 01:00:33,140
Ben...

2532
01:00:33,140 --> 01:00:36,560
Benjamin Hoskins Paddock Jr.

2533
01:00:38,820 --> 01:00:40,280
This is you and me.

2534
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:43,180
I mean...

2535
01:00:43,180 --> 01:00:44,200
Come on guys.

2536
01:00:44,860 --> 01:00:45,630
This is what everybody's so

2537
01:00:45,630 --> 01:00:47,080
scared about right now.

2538
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:49,220
Isn't autopsy being dead?

2539
01:00:49,380 --> 01:00:50,300
I sure hope so.

2540
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:51,260
But we have no control.

2541
01:00:51,380 --> 01:00:51,820
Someone asked me...

2542
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:53,180
About...

2543
01:00:53,180 --> 01:00:54,260
Do I know what they're...

2544
01:00:54,260 --> 01:00:54,700
I mean...

2545
01:00:54,700 --> 01:01:24,680
My mom wants to...

2546
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,460
Steve wasn't into funerals.

2547
01:01:26,620 --> 01:01:27,780
Steve was into being alive

2548
01:01:27,780 --> 01:01:28,300
today.

2549
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:29,760
If you wanted to have...

2550
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,200
If you wanted to have a party...

2551
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:33,510
Go hang out while people are

2552
01:01:33,510 --> 01:01:34,000
alive.

2553
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:35,620
That was how Steve lived.

2554
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:37,960
Funerals weren't...

2555
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:39,520
You've been able to speak with

2556
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:40,640
us so much...

2557
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:41,470
And you've been so good about

2558
01:01:41,470 --> 01:01:42,020
talking to us.

2559
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:43,090
How have you been able to keep

2560
01:01:43,090 --> 01:01:44,180
such a level head...

2561
01:01:44,180 --> 01:01:44,840
Throughout all of this?

2562
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:45,620
I know you said you had a

2563
01:01:45,620 --> 01:01:46,540
stressful job...

2564
01:01:46,540 --> 01:01:48,420
Because I'm an old-fashioned

2565
01:01:48,420 --> 01:01:48,920
guy.

2566
01:01:49,260 --> 01:01:50,960
My life has been...

2567
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:53,200
You know...

2568
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:54,550
I'm going to say my life hasn't

2569
01:01:54,550 --> 01:01:55,460
been wonderful.

2570
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,400
And then some poor guy who's...

2571
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:57,660
You know...

2572
01:01:57,660 --> 01:01:59,720
Got cancer and his mom...

2573
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:00,380
You know...

2574
01:02:00,380 --> 01:02:01,360
You know...

2575
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:02,740
Someone's got a worse life than

2576
01:02:02,740 --> 01:02:03,060
me.

2577
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:04,200
I'm...

2578
01:02:04,860 --> 01:02:06,460
I have lived...

2579
01:02:06,460 --> 01:02:07,660
And I don't want to talk about

2580
01:02:07,660 --> 01:02:08,260
me...

2581
01:02:08,260 --> 01:02:09,100
Because I'm just...

2582
01:02:09,100 --> 01:02:09,480
I'm...

2583
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:10,460
And this is what sucks.

2584
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:11,480
I'm going to use the same terms.

2585
01:02:11,620 --> 01:02:12,720
I'm just a guy.

2586
01:02:13,300 --> 01:02:14,520
Here's Eric Paddock.

2587
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,260
I was the youngest son.

2588
01:02:16,660 --> 01:02:19,620
I grew up with a single mom.

2589
01:02:20,700 --> 01:02:21,940
Steve was like...

2590
01:02:21,940 --> 01:02:23,200
The dancer.

2591
01:02:23,700 --> 01:02:24,020
I mean...

2592
01:02:24,020 --> 01:02:25,000
He took me camping.

2593
01:02:25,460 --> 01:02:26,000
Sorry, Eric.

2594
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:26,800
Just do this.

2595
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:28,160
We'll just...

2596
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:28,930
If it gets a little bit too

2597
01:02:28,930 --> 01:02:29,500
much...

2598
01:02:29,500 --> 01:02:30,620
I'll put the man in on the

2599
01:02:30,620 --> 01:02:31,520
screen there.

2600
01:02:32,020 --> 01:02:33,080
I had a tough time.

2601
01:02:33,500 --> 01:02:34,400
I did dumb stuff when I was a

2602
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:35,100
teenager.

2603
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:35,960
Okay?

2604
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:37,400
I didn't...

2605
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:38,660
I have no criminal...

2606
01:02:38,660 --> 01:02:38,840
I...

2607
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:39,540
You asked yourself...

2608
01:02:39,540 --> 01:02:39,880
I mean...

2609
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:40,080
You know...

2610
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:40,380
He loved...

2611
01:02:40,380 --> 01:02:40,920
You know...

2612
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:42,560
Vegas and the gaming life...

2613
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:43,790
And why would he choose a

2614
01:02:43,790 --> 01:02:44,780
casino to...

2615
01:02:44,780 --> 01:02:45,140
I mean...

2616
01:02:45,140 --> 01:02:46,000
Not that you know...

2617
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:46,960
But if you asked yourself...

2618
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:47,720
Why he would take...

2619
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:48,020
Absolutely.

2620
01:02:48,020 --> 01:02:48,800
He loved so much...

2621
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:49,040
Well, of course.

2622
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:49,640
Absolutely.

2623
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:50,480
It's not that...

2624
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:51,700
Steve didn't love it.

2625
01:02:51,740 --> 01:02:52,480
It was a job.

2626
01:02:52,900 --> 01:02:54,680
I did a job for 30 years...

2627
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:55,490
That I wasn't all that crazy

2628
01:02:55,490 --> 01:02:56,060
about...

2629
01:02:56,060 --> 01:02:57,520
But I made a lot of money.

2630
01:02:57,900 --> 01:02:58,160
Oof.

2631
01:02:58,260 --> 01:02:58,540
Okay?

2632
01:02:58,940 --> 01:03:00,020
I didn't love my job.

2633
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,360
I pretty much hated my job.

2634
01:03:01,420 --> 01:03:02,500
But I made a lot of money.

2635
01:03:02,660 --> 01:03:03,920
I created four children

2636
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:05,020
successfully.

2637
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:06,280
I have a house.

2638
01:03:06,340 --> 01:03:07,220
I have a retirement.

2639
01:03:07,220 --> 01:03:08,360
I get to go drive around...

2640
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:09,450
In my cheap little motor home

2641
01:03:09,450 --> 01:03:09,760
now.

2642
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:10,300
Sounds nice.

2643
01:03:10,500 --> 01:03:10,940
It's...

2644
01:03:10,940 --> 01:03:11,760
It's not...

2645
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,020
Steve didn't love the casino.

2646
01:03:13,100 --> 01:03:14,490
The casino was a means to an

2647
01:03:14,490 --> 01:03:14,940
end.

2648
01:03:15,580 --> 01:03:16,120
What would you say...

2649
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:17,810
The casino to him was like a

2650
01:03:17,810 --> 01:03:18,620
job...

2651
01:03:18,620 --> 01:03:20,370
It was like a job at Toyota in

2652
01:03:20,370 --> 01:03:21,500
Japan...

2653
01:03:21,500 --> 01:03:22,750
Where you live in the Toyota

2654
01:03:22,750 --> 01:03:23,820
apartments...

2655
01:03:23,820 --> 01:03:24,620
Across the street.

2656
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:26,370
And then you go to the Toyota

2657
01:03:26,370 --> 01:03:27,640
factory to work.

2658
01:03:27,980 --> 01:03:28,860
That's what the casino...

2659
01:03:28,860 --> 01:03:29,780
That's all the casino was to

2660
01:03:29,780 --> 01:03:30,060
him.

2661
01:03:30,100 --> 01:03:31,160
It was a place where you lived...

2662
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:32,100
And they were nice to you.

2663
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:33,120
And you made...

2664
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:34,580
And you could get paid for...

2665
01:03:34,580 --> 01:03:35,960
By playing slots.

2666
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,250
What would you say to families

2667
01:03:37,250 --> 01:03:38,500
who are trying to...

2668
01:03:38,500 --> 01:03:40,500
Do you really make a living...

2669
01:03:40,500 --> 01:03:42,020
Fucking gambling in a casino?

2670
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:43,630
Do you really make a living out

2671
01:03:43,630 --> 01:03:44,140
of it?

2672
01:03:44,220 --> 01:03:44,820
Like...

2673
01:03:46,900 --> 01:03:47,920
Do you know they always say...

2674
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:49,260
The house always wins?

2675
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:50,480
Do you know?

2676
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:50,520
Do you know?

2677
01:03:57,180 --> 01:03:59,720
I know there are people who do...

2678
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:01,720
It can't be like a fucking...

2679
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:02,960
A load of people.

2680
01:04:03,140 --> 01:04:04,840
It must just only be a select

2681
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:05,600
amount.

2682
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:10,580
I'm saying...

2683
01:04:10,580 --> 01:04:11,980
I'm...

2684
01:04:11,980 --> 01:04:13,560
I'm crying.

2685
01:04:14,060 --> 01:04:14,580
You know you say...

2686
01:04:14,580 --> 01:04:15,600
How am I holding up?

2687
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:16,520
I woke up...

2688
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:16,900
You know...

2689
01:04:16,900 --> 01:04:17,620
And once again...

2690
01:04:17,620 --> 01:04:17,860
It's...

2691
01:04:17,860 --> 01:04:19,200
I'm not a crying kind of guy.

2692
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:20,320
I'm the guy...

2693
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,090
I'm the guy who helps everybody

2694
01:04:22,090 --> 01:04:23,000
else...

2695
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:23,960
Yeah because the casino...

2696
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:25,090
The casino is not going to be

2697
01:04:25,090 --> 01:04:25,760
like...

2698
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:26,440
Oh man...

2699
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:27,480
He's going to be back again.

2700
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,260
The guy who keeps winning...

2701
01:04:29,260 --> 01:04:30,750
Oh let's give him lots of free

2702
01:04:30,750 --> 01:04:31,300
stuff.

2703
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:32,360
We'll give him the rooms.

2704
01:04:33,100 --> 01:04:33,660
Lots of...

2705
01:04:33,660 --> 01:04:34,380
Comp the sushi.

2706
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:35,060
All that.

2707
01:04:36,860 --> 01:04:37,470
We're losing money because of

2708
01:04:37,470 --> 01:04:38,600
this cunt.

2709
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:39,880
Yeah give him everything.

2710
01:04:40,260 --> 01:04:40,560
Let's...

2711
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:41,620
Let's have him in...

2712
01:04:41,620 --> 01:04:42,500
Our...

2713
01:04:42,500 --> 01:04:43,520
Manifold here.

2714
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:44,850
Doesn't make sense that they

2715
01:04:44,850 --> 01:04:45,620
were...

2716
01:04:45,620 --> 01:04:46,800
So kind to this guy.

2717
01:04:47,180 --> 01:04:48,190
Unless he was making them more

2718
01:04:48,190 --> 01:04:48,920
money...

2719
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:49,900
By losing money.

2720
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:50,960
That's my neighbour.

2721
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:52,100
The lady who pulled in.

2722
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:53,070
I helped her husband pull a

2723
01:04:53,070 --> 01:04:54,200
tree off his house...

2724
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:55,100
And stand up his...

2725
01:04:55,100 --> 01:04:55,840
I'm...

2726
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,090
The kind of guy who goes around

2727
01:04:57,090 --> 01:04:57,660
and helps.

2728
01:04:58,180 --> 01:04:58,880
I'm just that...

2729
01:04:58,880 --> 01:04:59,640
I mean sorry...

2730
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,000
I'm just that kind of guy.

2731
01:05:01,140 --> 01:05:01,560
Was I...

2732
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,580
I'm extremely lucky in life.

2733
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:04,980
You know...

2734
01:05:04,980 --> 01:05:05,440
I...

2735
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,120
But I worked for it a lot.

2736
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:08,080
I mean go...

2737
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:08,900
Find my history.

2738
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:10,740
I worked a billion hours...

2739
01:05:10,740 --> 01:05:10,980
And...

2740
01:05:10,980 --> 01:05:12,780
And was not home with my family...

2741
01:05:12,780 --> 01:05:12,940
And...

2742
01:05:12,940 --> 01:05:13,380
And etc.

2743
01:05:13,460 --> 01:05:13,680
Etc.

2744
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,660
But I'm not guilty for being

2745
01:05:15,660 --> 01:05:16,860
successful.

2746
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:18,470
But for all the rest of the

2747
01:05:18,470 --> 01:05:19,680
people...

2748
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:20,080
For all...

2749
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:20,300
Here...

2750
01:05:20,300 --> 01:05:21,040
I mean once again...

2751
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:21,800
Please...

2752
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:22,200
I'm just wanting to know what

2753
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:22,640
you say to the families.

2754
01:05:22,780 --> 01:05:24,320
The victims who are trying...

2755
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:24,680
The family...

2756
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:26,880
To understand...

2757
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:27,560
To get inside...

2758
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,440
Think about Steve.

2759
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:31,320
However you have to think about

2760
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:31,940
Steve.

2761
01:05:32,220 --> 01:05:32,760
Here's my...

2762
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:33,520
Here's my statement.

2763
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:34,630
If we have to have a funeral

2764
01:05:34,630 --> 01:05:35,540
for Steve...

2765
01:05:35,540 --> 01:05:37,380
Here's how pragmatic...

2766
01:05:37,380 --> 01:05:38,140
This is...

2767
01:05:38,140 --> 01:05:39,180
How pragmatic I am.

2768
01:05:39,540 --> 01:05:41,520
If having a funeral for Steve...

2769
01:05:42,300 --> 01:05:43,480
And letting all these people

2770
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:44,540
come...

2771
01:05:44,540 --> 01:05:46,520
And spit on his grave...

2772
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,200
Will make them feel better...

2773
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:49,300
In any way shape or form...

2774
01:05:49,300 --> 01:05:50,740
I mean I'm using the far end

2775
01:05:50,740 --> 01:05:51,660
here...

2776
01:05:51,660 --> 01:05:52,240
Come on guys...

2777
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:52,900
Give me a little...

2778
01:05:52,900 --> 01:05:54,420
Give me a little stretch here.

2779
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:55,360
What the fuck?

2780
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:55,860
If having...

2781
01:05:55,860 --> 01:05:56,770
I wonder did they have a

2782
01:05:56,770 --> 01:05:58,000
funeral in the end...

2783
01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,320
Or was it a cremation job?

2784
01:06:00,380 --> 01:06:01,100
If I...

2785
01:06:01,100 --> 01:06:03,000
I'd rather be cremated...

2786
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,240
If that was my...

2787
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:05,600
If I had done that...

2788
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:06,560
But I mean obviously if you'd

2789
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:07,180
done it...

2790
01:06:07,180 --> 01:06:08,540
You won't have any say in it.

2791
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:09,740
But I would have left a note.

2792
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:12,320
I think a funeral for Steve

2793
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:13,500
would help anybody.

2794
01:06:14,180 --> 01:06:16,780
I will do whatever...

2795
01:06:16,780 --> 01:06:17,800
Is possible.

2796
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:20,720
I mean I'm...

2797
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,440
My heart is...

2798
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:23,240
Torn...

2799
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:24,580
Is destroyed...

2800
01:06:24,580 --> 01:06:25,440
For all these people.

2801
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:26,600
I...

2802
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,180
But I can't...

2803
01:06:28,180 --> 01:06:28,940
Tell you...

2804
01:06:28,940 --> 01:06:29,940
Why Steve...

2805
01:06:29,940 --> 01:06:30,920
Did what he did.

2806
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:32,180
It doesn't...

2807
01:06:32,180 --> 01:06:32,660
It's...

2808
01:06:32,660 --> 01:06:34,780
So far...

2809
01:06:34,780 --> 01:06:35,700
Over...

2810
01:06:35,700 --> 01:06:37,580
The side of the cliff...

2811
01:06:37,580 --> 01:06:39,500
From Steve...

2812
01:06:39,500 --> 01:06:40,320
That I knew.

2813
01:06:40,660 --> 01:06:42,160
Did he grouse about people?

2814
01:06:42,380 --> 01:06:42,860
Yes.

2815
01:06:43,180 --> 01:06:44,100
If you went into...

2816
01:06:44,100 --> 01:06:44,500
I mean...

2817
01:06:44,500 --> 01:06:45,220
Grouse.

2818
01:06:45,460 --> 01:06:46,660
You guys...

2819
01:06:46,660 --> 01:06:47,200
Come on.

2820
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:47,940
If you...

2821
01:06:47,940 --> 01:06:48,840
You go in...

2822
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,050
Do any of you guys ever gamble

2823
01:06:50,050 --> 01:06:50,520
at all?

2824
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:51,860
When you gamble...

2825
01:06:51,860 --> 01:06:52,480
And you win...

2826
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:53,220
You're all happy.

2827
01:06:53,340 --> 01:06:54,280
It doesn't matter if you're up

2828
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:54,900
$500.

2829
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:56,180
When you lose...

2830
01:06:56,180 --> 01:06:56,960
You're not happy.

2831
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:57,800
So...

2832
01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:58,360
You know...

2833
01:06:58,360 --> 01:06:59,520
You're unhappy that you lost...

2834
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:00,200
Because you think you lost.

2835
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:01,600
But there's no...

2836
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:02,200
That's not...

2837
01:07:02,700 --> 01:07:03,180
I mean...

2838
01:07:03,180 --> 01:07:04,760
Steve didn't gamble that way.

2839
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,240
Steve gambled as a job.

2840
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:06,780
Eric...

2841
01:07:06,780 --> 01:07:07,080
What...

2842
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,600
What's the status of the FBI...

2843
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:10,240
In your family?

2844
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:10,980
They haven't talked to me at

2845
01:07:10,980 --> 01:07:11,240
all.

2846
01:07:11,540 --> 01:07:12,200
A new contender...

2847
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:13,880
Enters the scene.

2848
01:07:13,980 --> 01:07:14,140
Look.

2849
01:07:14,820 --> 01:07:15,300
Eric...

2850
01:07:15,300 --> 01:07:16,970
What's the status of the FBI

2851
01:07:16,970 --> 01:07:17,540
here?

2852
01:07:17,580 --> 01:07:19,080
Another fucking...

2853
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,600
Ludermon with their iPhone out...

2854
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:22,100
Gawping...

2855
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:24,640
Making stupid gesticulations

2856
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:25,700
like this.

2857
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:26,400
But it's...

2858
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:27,420
It's open season.

2859
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:29,100
Even the shittest reporters...

2860
01:07:29,100 --> 01:07:31,400
Are able to get a few digs in.

2861
01:07:32,060 --> 01:07:32,660
By digs...

2862
01:07:32,660 --> 01:07:33,460
I mean questions.

2863
01:07:34,540 --> 01:07:34,840
Do you know?

2864
01:07:35,180 --> 01:07:35,600
And...

2865
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,180
This fella is more than happy...

2866
01:07:37,180 --> 01:07:38,240
To fucking elaborate...

2867
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:39,050
And over elaborate on

2868
01:07:39,050 --> 01:07:39,660
everything.

2869
01:07:39,740 --> 01:07:40,020
Eric...

2870
01:07:40,020 --> 01:07:40,320
What...

2871
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,100
What's the status of the FBI...

2872
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:43,520
In your family?

2873
01:07:43,580 --> 01:07:44,350
They haven't talked to me at

2874
01:07:44,350 --> 01:07:44,620
all.

2875
01:07:44,700 --> 01:07:45,720
I know nothing from them.

2876
01:07:45,780 --> 01:07:46,100
They aren't...

2877
01:07:46,100 --> 01:07:47,140
I have to find out...

2878
01:07:47,140 --> 01:07:47,720
Stuff...

2879
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:48,680
About that...

2880
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:49,040
From...

2881
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:49,740
I thought you were working with

2882
01:07:49,740 --> 01:07:50,200
federal...

2883
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:50,640
I was!

2884
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,000
These are just his neighbours...

2885
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,000
Having a nose...

2886
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:55,800
Says Twitch.

2887
01:07:56,420 --> 01:07:57,000
As if...

2888
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,600
To the idea that all these

2889
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,000
reporters...

2890
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:00,400
Have...

2891
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:01,330
Have already asked enough

2892
01:08:01,330 --> 01:08:02,120
questions...

2893
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:02,500
They...

2894
01:08:02,500 --> 01:08:03,960
They don't have any more...

2895
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:04,900
Questions to ask.

2896
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:06,290
And then the neighbour from

2897
01:08:06,290 --> 01:08:07,500
across the road...

2898
01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:08,800
Comes over...

2899
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,100
And says...

2900
01:08:10,100 --> 01:08:10,560
Steve...

2901
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:11,580
What's going on buddy?

2902
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:12,120
I mean...

2903
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:12,440
What...

2904
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:13,420
Even though his name's not

2905
01:08:13,420 --> 01:08:14,000
Steve...

2906
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:14,880
What's happening man?

2907
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:16,440
What's happening with the FBI?

2908
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:17,900
...Gamble that way.

2909
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:19,340
Steve Gamble has a job.

2910
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:19,920
Eric...

2911
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:20,220
What...

2912
01:08:20,220 --> 01:08:22,280
What's the status of the FBI?

2913
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,040
That's his neighbour.

2914
01:08:24,440 --> 01:08:25,120
And your family...

2915
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:25,930
They haven't talked to me at

2916
01:08:25,930 --> 01:08:26,180
all.

2917
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:27,280
I know nothing from them.

2918
01:08:27,340 --> 01:08:27,660
They aren't...

2919
01:08:27,660 --> 01:08:28,760
I have to find out...

2920
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:29,300
Stuff...

2921
01:08:29,300 --> 01:08:30,240
About that...

2922
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:30,500
From...

2923
01:08:30,500 --> 01:08:31,220
I thought you were working with

2924
01:08:31,220 --> 01:08:31,720
federal...

2925
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:32,900
I was yesterday.

2926
01:08:34,060 --> 01:08:34,820
Nobody has...

2927
01:08:34,820 --> 01:08:35,140
I mean...

2928
01:08:35,140 --> 01:08:36,880
I found out about this $100,000...

2929
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:37,300
On the way...

2930
01:08:37,300 --> 01:08:38,340
Somebody texted me.

2931
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:39,280
If it's true...

2932
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:40,380
I'm sorry if it's not true...

2933
01:08:40,380 --> 01:08:41,320
But once again...

2934
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:41,840
It...

2935
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:42,440
I mean...

2936
01:08:42,440 --> 01:08:43,540
Here I can talk to that...

2937
01:08:43,540 --> 01:08:44,880
Because it fits exactly...

2938
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:46,600
Into what I would expect...

2939
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:47,260
From Steve.

2940
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:49,740
That he took care of Mary Lou.

2941
01:08:52,260 --> 01:08:52,940
Another...

2942
01:08:52,940 --> 01:08:54,260
World beater...

2943
01:08:54,260 --> 01:08:54,940
Of a strand...

2944
01:08:55,900 --> 01:08:56,900
Back in the studio.

2945
01:08:57,180 --> 01:08:58,420
They are loving this guy.

2946
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:00,300
They can obviously see...

2947
01:09:00,300 --> 01:09:00,660
These are...

2948
01:09:00,660 --> 01:09:01,460
These are people...

2949
01:09:01,460 --> 01:09:02,620
Who have degrees...

2950
01:09:02,620 --> 01:09:03,240
Jobs...

2951
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:04,740
High level positions...

2952
01:09:04,740 --> 01:09:06,600
They have backgrounds...

2953
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:07,760
Where they're able to...

2954
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:08,060
As...

2955
01:09:08,060 --> 01:09:08,740
Ascertain...

2956
01:09:09,440 --> 01:09:10,080
Whether or not...

2957
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:11,140
Somebody is...

2958
01:09:11,140 --> 01:09:12,300
A reliable source...

2959
01:09:12,300 --> 01:09:13,340
Or in shock...

2960
01:09:13,340 --> 01:09:14,740
Or anything like that...

2961
01:09:14,740 --> 01:09:16,520
They know that he's not...

2962
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:17,580
Really fucking right...

2963
01:09:17,580 --> 01:09:19,000
To do this...

2964
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:20,820
But they're getting some...

2965
01:09:20,820 --> 01:09:21,520
Real...

2966
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:22,740
Firework strands...

2967
01:09:22,740 --> 01:09:23,640
Out of us...

2968
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:24,880
I'd let people spit on his

2969
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:25,740
grave...

2970
01:09:25,740 --> 01:09:26,740
If it had helped...

2971
01:09:27,860 --> 01:09:28,340
I...

2972
01:09:28,340 --> 01:09:28,660
I mean...

2973
01:09:28,660 --> 01:09:29,100
I'm...

2974
01:09:29,100 --> 01:09:29,860
I'm...

2975
01:09:29,860 --> 01:09:31,200
The fact that he...

2976
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:32,680
He took care of Mary Lou...

2977
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:33,820
And then killed all these

2978
01:09:33,820 --> 01:09:34,680
people...

2979
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,280
There's just...

2980
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:37,800
Twisted...

2981
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:38,680
No...

2982
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,540
Connection there for me...

2983
01:09:40,540 --> 01:09:41,500
I don't...

2984
01:09:41,500 --> 01:09:42,680
Understand...

2985
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,020
How Steve got to that point...

2986
01:09:45,020 --> 01:09:46,020
That's why...

2987
01:09:46,020 --> 01:09:47,020
I mean...

2988
01:09:47,020 --> 01:09:47,660
Once again...

2989
01:09:47,660 --> 01:09:48,880
And maybe we'll never know...

2990
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,020
I don't know...

2991
01:09:50,020 --> 01:09:50,520
But we...

2992
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:51,660
I mean...

2993
01:09:51,660 --> 01:09:52,520
I'm praying...

2994
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,300
I mean...

2995
01:09:54,300 --> 01:09:54,980
And even...

2996
01:09:54,980 --> 01:09:55,720
There's no...

2997
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:56,520
So he lost...

2998
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:57,200
Four million dollars...

2999
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,200
So Mary Lou broke up with him...

3000
01:09:59,200 --> 01:09:59,200
That...

3001
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,200
That's not even...

3002
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:01,200
That...

3003
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:02,200
That...

3004
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:02,820
That wouldn't even do it for

3005
01:10:02,820 --> 01:10:03,200
Steve...

3006
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,200
Because he'd go on...

3007
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:06,200
We've had setbacks...

3008
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:07,200
And...

3009
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:08,590
We're in the real estate

3010
01:10:08,590 --> 01:10:09,880
business in L.A.

3011
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:10,710
Back when the bottom fell out

3012
01:10:10,710 --> 01:10:11,200
of it...

3013
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:12,730
We almost lost all of our

3014
01:10:12,730 --> 01:10:14,000
savings...

3015
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,200
We just went on...

3016
01:10:16,340 --> 01:10:16,740
I mean...

3017
01:10:16,740 --> 01:10:17,200
There's no...

3018
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:18,020
I mean...

3019
01:10:18,020 --> 01:10:19,380
We're pragmatic...

3020
01:10:19,380 --> 01:10:20,240
People...

3021
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:21,040
We just...

3022
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:21,420
I mean...

3023
01:10:21,420 --> 01:10:22,180
We...

3024
01:10:22,180 --> 01:10:22,540
We...

3025
01:10:22,540 --> 01:10:23,200
We keep going...

3026
01:10:24,020 --> 01:10:24,260
It's...

3027
01:10:24,260 --> 01:10:24,860
That's why...

3028
01:10:24,860 --> 01:10:26,200
Just not keeping going...

3029
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:28,520
It's like...

3030
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:29,930
He doesn't really care really

3031
01:10:29,930 --> 01:10:31,410
much about distancing himself

3032
01:10:31,410 --> 01:10:32,200
from...

3033
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:33,200
The brother...

3034
01:10:34,460 --> 01:10:35,640
At this stage...

3035
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:36,220
But again...

3036
01:10:36,220 --> 01:10:38,200
It's only hours after the event...

3037
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,200
So the shock is still there...

3038
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,740
It's kind of...

3039
01:10:42,740 --> 01:10:43,240
I'm just going...

3040
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:44,240
It's who we are man...

3041
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:45,340
This is who we are...

3042
01:10:45,340 --> 01:10:45,920
Okay...

3043
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,120
It's the type of people we are...

3044
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:49,920
There was something...

3045
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:50,880
That happened...

3046
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,120
To Steve...

3047
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:53,120
That...

3048
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:54,560
I...

3049
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:55,760
I'm not even trying to excuse

3050
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,120
anything or anything...

3051
01:10:58,320 --> 01:10:59,600
But something happened...

3052
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:00,590
That drove him into the pit of

3053
01:11:00,590 --> 01:11:01,120
hell...

3054
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:03,120
And...

3055
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:04,120
And...

3056
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:06,120
Is that an insect...

3057
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:07,360
In Florida?

3058
01:11:07,480 --> 01:11:08,420
Is that the cicada?

3059
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:10,120
Fucking loud isn't it?

3060
01:11:10,940 --> 01:11:12,060
He did this...

3061
01:11:12,060 --> 01:11:12,480
But it...

3062
01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:13,420
You're hoping that there's some

3063
01:11:13,420 --> 01:11:14,040
autopsy...

3064
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:14,920
Will reveal something to

3065
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:15,640
explain...

3066
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:17,210
I'm praying for at least some

3067
01:11:17,210 --> 01:11:18,520
data points...

3068
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,040
Because otherwise...

3069
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:20,660
It's...

3070
01:11:20,660 --> 01:11:21,280
It's...

3071
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:21,700
You know...

3072
01:11:21,700 --> 01:11:22,360
The...

3073
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,340
The bug in Men in Black...

3074
01:11:24,340 --> 01:11:25,540
Put on a Steve suit...

3075
01:11:25,540 --> 01:11:25,740
And went...

3076
01:11:25,740 --> 01:11:26,660
It's another neighbor...

3077
01:11:27,460 --> 01:11:28,660
With a drone this time...

3078
01:11:29,260 --> 01:11:29,540
I don't think drones have

3079
01:11:29,540 --> 01:11:30,660
gotten that popular...

3080
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:31,380
Well...

3081
01:11:31,380 --> 01:11:32,660
Actually they had...

3082
01:11:33,660 --> 01:11:34,660
Obviously not as much as now...

3083
01:11:34,660 --> 01:11:35,660
He did this...

3084
01:11:36,300 --> 01:11:36,720
I mean...

3085
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:37,660
There's no other...

3086
01:11:38,660 --> 01:11:42,460
There's no other rationalization...

3087
01:11:42,460 --> 01:11:43,760
I mean...

3088
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,820
He didn't plan this for 35

3089
01:11:46,820 --> 01:11:48,580
years...

3090
01:11:48,580 --> 01:11:48,980
There's...

3091
01:11:48,980 --> 01:11:49,820
It just...

3092
01:11:49,820 --> 01:11:51,140
He didn't plan this for 35

3093
01:11:51,140 --> 01:11:51,960
years...

3094
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,540
This happened to my brother...

3095
01:11:54,540 --> 01:11:56,540
Whatever caused him to do this...

3096
01:11:56,540 --> 01:11:58,540
Happened in a very...

3097
01:11:59,540 --> 01:12:00,910
It would have had to have been

3098
01:12:00,910 --> 01:12:01,900
planned...

3099
01:12:01,900 --> 01:12:03,080
For quite some time though...

3100
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:03,340
You know...

3101
01:12:04,220 --> 01:12:05,340
Which is fucking weird enough...

3102
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,340
To have gone through with it...

3103
01:12:09,340 --> 01:12:10,640
I don't know what a very short

3104
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,140
time period is to you...

3105
01:12:12,140 --> 01:12:13,140
But this happened...

3106
01:12:13,140 --> 01:12:13,900
But this happened...

3107
01:12:13,900 --> 01:12:15,140
Over the course of...

3108
01:12:15,140 --> 01:12:16,140
Months...

3109
01:12:16,140 --> 01:12:17,990
It happened over the course of

3110
01:12:17,990 --> 01:12:19,140
months...

3111
01:12:19,140 --> 01:12:19,660
Yeah...

3112
01:12:19,660 --> 01:12:20,530
And here's what I say to the

3113
01:12:20,530 --> 01:12:21,140
people...

3114
01:12:21,140 --> 01:12:22,040
I mean...

3115
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:22,640
I mean...

3116
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:23,260
If they're trying to understand

3117
01:12:23,260 --> 01:12:23,640
Steve...

3118
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:24,140
I mean...

3119
01:12:24,140 --> 01:12:24,760
Maybe no one will ever

3120
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:25,640
understand Steve...

3121
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:26,640
But...

3122
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:27,540
You know...

3123
01:12:27,540 --> 01:12:28,640
This is what I'll carry...

3124
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:29,640
For the rest of my life...

3125
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,040
You know...

3126
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:32,640
Had I called him back...

3127
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:33,600
Instead of texting...

3128
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:34,560
Would I have heard something in

3129
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:35,020
his voice?

3130
01:12:35,820 --> 01:12:37,440
Would I have...

3131
01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:38,480
Would I...

3132
01:12:38,480 --> 01:12:39,440
Would he have...

3133
01:12:39,440 --> 01:12:40,260
Given up something?

3134
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:41,700
Would he have...

3135
01:12:41,700 --> 01:12:42,360
I don't know...

3136
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:43,700
I can't say...

3137
01:12:43,700 --> 01:12:45,020
That's what I'm going to carry...

3138
01:12:45,020 --> 01:12:46,440
For the rest of my life...

3139
01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:47,320
That...

3140
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,560
Maybe I could have intervened...

3141
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:49,940
But...

3142
01:12:49,940 --> 01:12:50,640
I don't...

3143
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,140
That's pure conjecture...

3144
01:12:53,140 --> 01:12:54,440
For the people...

3145
01:12:54,440 --> 01:12:57,640
Who have been affected by this...

3146
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,440
If there was...

3147
01:13:00,440 --> 01:13:01,440
Anything...

3148
01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:03,440
I could do...

3149
01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:05,440
To make this better...

3150
01:13:05,440 --> 01:13:07,140
If there was anything...

3151
01:13:07,140 --> 01:13:08,480
I could do to make this better...

3152
01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:09,440
I would do it...

3153
01:13:09,440 --> 01:13:10,440
And I...

3154
01:13:10,440 --> 01:13:10,440
I...

3155
01:13:10,440 --> 01:13:12,440
I'm...

3156
01:13:12,440 --> 01:13:13,440
I mean...

3157
01:13:13,440 --> 01:13:15,240
Nobody wants to hear this...

3158
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:16,440
But I'm as...

3159
01:13:16,440 --> 01:13:17,800
Touched by this...

3160
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:18,940
My brother's dead...

3161
01:13:18,940 --> 01:13:19,740
Who...

3162
01:13:19,740 --> 01:13:20,770
Who wasn't this guy who did

3163
01:13:20,770 --> 01:13:21,440
this...

3164
01:13:21,440 --> 01:13:22,440
You know...

3165
01:13:22,440 --> 01:13:23,440
He's dead...

3166
01:13:23,440 --> 01:13:25,440
And I liked my brother...

3167
01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:28,940
He was a good guy...

3168
01:13:28,940 --> 01:13:30,040
I know this is...

3169
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:30,360
You know...

3170
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:31,440
Nobody wants to hear this...

3171
01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:32,240
But damn...

3172
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:33,240
I...

3173
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:33,940
You know...

3174
01:13:33,940 --> 01:13:35,240
If you knew Steve...

3175
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,040
Once again...

3176
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:38,440
People...

3177
01:13:38,440 --> 01:13:39,400
20 years ago...

3178
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:40,240
Who have no reason to say...

3179
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,040
Anything nice about him or

3180
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,240
anything...

3181
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:45,740
Or anything...

3182
01:13:45,740 --> 01:13:46,540
What?

3183
01:13:46,540 --> 01:13:47,040
I...

3184
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:48,040
You know...

3185
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:49,040
If you knew Steve...

3186
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:52,040
Once again...

3187
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:52,540
People...

3188
01:13:52,540 --> 01:13:53,540
20 years ago...

3189
01:13:53,540 --> 01:13:54,350
Who have no reason to say

3190
01:13:54,350 --> 01:13:55,250
anything nice about him or

3191
01:13:55,250 --> 01:13:56,040
anything...

3192
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:56,340
Or...

3193
01:13:56,340 --> 01:13:57,840
Say nice things about him...

3194
01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:58,740
People...

3195
01:13:58,740 --> 01:14:00,040
Who don't even know him...

3196
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:01,040
Hardly...

3197
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:02,040
I'm...

3198
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:03,040
I'm...

3199
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:04,040
This is...

3200
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:05,920
A horror...

3201
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:06,580
Just a...

3202
01:14:06,580 --> 01:14:07,900
A horror story...

3203
01:14:07,900 --> 01:14:08,940
In every...

3204
01:14:08,940 --> 01:14:10,040
Possible way...

3205
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,300
It's the bad twist...

3206
01:14:12,300 --> 01:14:13,340
At the end of a...

3207
01:14:13,340 --> 01:14:14,040
Good movie...

3208
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:14,560
You know...

3209
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:15,700
At the end of a good movie...

3210
01:14:15,700 --> 01:14:16,280
Or something...

3211
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:16,940
It's...

3212
01:14:16,940 --> 01:14:18,040
It's...

3213
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:19,840
How in the hell...

3214
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:20,620
Did this happen?

3215
01:14:21,820 --> 01:14:22,820
I was going well...

3216
01:14:22,820 --> 01:14:24,080
The movie was going great...

3217
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:24,920
Until that twist...

3218
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:26,400
What facts do you know about

3219
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,320
the last weeks or months...

3220
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:29,040
Of Stephen's life?

3221
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:29,440
What...

3222
01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:30,240
Do you know anything?

3223
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:31,200
Or is it just...

3224
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:31,560
Blank?

3225
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,720
I don't know anything...

3226
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:35,840
Exactly...

3227
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:36,560
Specific...

3228
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:37,860
About the last month of Steve's

3229
01:14:37,860 --> 01:14:38,560
life...

3230
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,390
I'd love to hear this guy's

3231
01:14:41,390 --> 01:14:44,060
take on anything...

3232
01:14:44,060 --> 01:14:44,300
Do you know...

3233
01:14:44,300 --> 01:14:44,940
At this stage...

3234
01:14:44,940 --> 01:14:45,750
If they started asking him

3235
01:14:45,750 --> 01:14:46,560
about the weather...

3236
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:49,560
Or what he had for breakfast...

3237
01:14:50,480 --> 01:14:51,560
I would be glued...

3238
01:14:52,620 --> 01:14:53,120
To the...

3239
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:53,560
To the scene...

3240
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:55,080
Except that he...

3241
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,240
Called my mom and talked to her...

3242
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:58,300
And I don't even know...

3243
01:14:58,300 --> 01:14:58,800
Specifically...

3244
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:00,060
He had multiple residents...

3245
01:15:00,060 --> 01:15:01,180
And he stayed in hotels...

3246
01:15:01,180 --> 01:15:02,520
I don't even know necessarily...

3247
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:03,500
Where he called from...

3248
01:15:03,500 --> 01:15:04,500
Because I just...

3249
01:15:04,500 --> 01:15:06,300
I don't ask those things...

3250
01:15:06,300 --> 01:15:06,860
You don't know how long Mary

3251
01:15:06,860 --> 01:15:07,220
Lou...

3252
01:15:07,220 --> 01:15:08,200
Had been in the Philippines...

3253
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:08,560
No...

3254
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:09,960
But here's Eric's...

3255
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:10,260
You know...

3256
01:15:10,260 --> 01:15:11,460
Here's another Eric's conjecture...

3257
01:15:11,460 --> 01:15:12,920
For the day...

3258
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:14,920
What they normally did...

3259
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,200
They drove into Vegas...

3260
01:15:18,340 --> 01:15:18,890
And they stayed at the hotel

3261
01:15:18,890 --> 01:15:20,220
for a night...

3262
01:15:20,220 --> 01:15:20,740
Had dinner...

3263
01:15:20,740 --> 01:15:21,480
Relaxed...

3264
01:15:21,480 --> 01:15:21,980
Etc...

3265
01:15:21,980 --> 01:15:22,860
And then they flew out to go on

3266
01:15:22,860 --> 01:15:23,480
a cruise...

3267
01:15:23,480 --> 01:15:25,080
Or she flew out to go to see

3268
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:26,680
her daughter...

3269
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:27,060
Or...

3270
01:15:27,060 --> 01:15:28,840
Or to see her relatives...

3271
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:29,500
Overseas...

3272
01:15:29,500 --> 01:15:30,040
Or...

3273
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:30,520
She...

3274
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,940
She went off to do something...

3275
01:15:32,940 --> 01:15:33,660
He...

3276
01:15:33,660 --> 01:15:34,870
Usually sat around the casino

3277
01:15:34,870 --> 01:15:35,800
and gambled...

3278
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:37,120
Because that's kind of what he

3279
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:37,620
did...

3280
01:15:37,620 --> 01:15:38,810
Yesterday you were wondering

3281
01:15:38,810 --> 01:15:39,640
about where he got the

3282
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:40,880
automatic weapons...

3283
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:42,290
It's come out that he purchased

3284
01:15:42,290 --> 01:15:43,520
two bump stocks...

3285
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:44,520
Which are...

3286
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:44,900
Things that...

3287
01:15:44,900 --> 01:15:45,520
Bump stocks...

3288
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:46,870
Those are things that you add

3289
01:15:46,870 --> 01:15:47,740
to a gun...

3290
01:15:47,740 --> 01:15:48,200
That don't...

3291
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:49,940
That only make two...

3292
01:15:49,940 --> 01:15:50,320
You know...

3293
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:50,780
Sort of...

3294
01:15:50,780 --> 01:15:51,780
Semi-automatic weapons...

3295
01:15:51,780 --> 01:15:52,680
Sort of automatic...

3296
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:53,060
I mean...

3297
01:15:53,060 --> 01:15:53,980
I don't know...

3298
01:15:53,980 --> 01:15:55,520
They showed pictures of guns...

3299
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:55,720
You know...

3300
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:57,220
If he had that many guns...

3301
01:15:57,220 --> 01:15:57,980
Did he have real...

3302
01:15:57,980 --> 01:15:58,520
Once again...

3303
01:15:58,520 --> 01:15:58,840
This is...

3304
01:15:58,840 --> 01:15:59,380
Who knows...

3305
01:15:59,380 --> 01:16:00,220
Did he have fully automatic

3306
01:16:00,220 --> 01:16:00,620
weapons?

3307
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:01,960
I don't know this anymore...

3308
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:03,060
The feds aren't telling me

3309
01:16:03,060 --> 01:16:03,920
anything...

3310
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:04,440
So...

3311
01:16:04,440 --> 01:16:04,660
You know...

3312
01:16:04,660 --> 01:16:05,480
The pictures you're...

3313
01:16:05,480 --> 01:16:06,310
What you're hearing from the

3314
01:16:06,310 --> 01:16:06,700
feds...

3315
01:16:06,700 --> 01:16:08,080
Is more than they're telling me...

3316
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:08,640
Because of course...

3317
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:09,200
They don't want to tell me

3318
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:09,740
anything...

3319
01:16:09,740 --> 01:16:10,300
Because...

3320
01:16:10,300 --> 01:16:11,210
In case I'm lying to them or

3321
01:16:11,210 --> 01:16:12,020
something...

3322
01:16:12,020 --> 01:16:12,930
What do you think of him making

3323
01:16:12,930 --> 01:16:13,540
that purchase?

3324
01:16:14,020 --> 01:16:14,650
That he bought the stuff to

3325
01:16:14,650 --> 01:16:15,620
make it automatic?

3326
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,580
Well of course...

3327
01:16:17,580 --> 01:16:19,180
He probably...

3328
01:16:19,180 --> 01:16:19,940
Again...

3329
01:16:19,940 --> 01:16:20,960
Do you want to understand Steve?

3330
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:22,800
Yeah...

3331
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:23,340
That's why we're all here...

3332
01:16:23,340 --> 01:16:23,780
Okay...

3333
01:16:23,780 --> 01:16:26,360
Fucking Forager just goes...

3334
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:26,860
Yeah...

3335
01:16:26,860 --> 01:16:29,260
That's why we're all here...

3336
01:16:29,260 --> 01:16:29,680
I...

3337
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,140
And he's saying it as if...

3338
01:16:31,140 --> 01:16:32,420
We're gonna really actually

3339
01:16:32,420 --> 01:16:33,900
understand Steve now...

3340
01:16:33,900 --> 01:16:35,130
He's gonna give the definitive

3341
01:16:35,130 --> 01:16:35,900
answer...

3342
01:16:35,900 --> 01:16:36,580
And he'll be like...

3343
01:16:36,580 --> 01:16:37,300
Oh...

3344
01:16:37,300 --> 01:16:37,820
Right...

3345
01:16:37,820 --> 01:16:40,200
Now I get who this Steve guy is...

3346
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:41,230
He's gonna say something really

3347
01:16:41,230 --> 01:16:41,900
fucking...

3348
01:16:43,340 --> 01:16:43,740
Like...

3349
01:16:43,740 --> 01:16:44,900
He liked to have...

3350
01:16:45,500 --> 01:16:46,900
Marmalade on his toast...

3351
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:48,360
On the morning...

3352
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:48,900
Okay...

3353
01:16:48,900 --> 01:16:49,720
And...

3354
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:50,240
That's...

3355
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:51,900
That's who Steve was...

3356
01:16:51,900 --> 01:16:53,080
And...

3357
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:54,900
It'll make no sense...

3358
01:16:54,900 --> 01:16:56,320
Again...

3359
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:57,320
Do you want to understand Steve?

3360
01:16:58,780 --> 01:16:59,140
Yeah...

3361
01:16:59,140 --> 01:16:59,700
That's why we're all here...

3362
01:16:59,700 --> 01:16:59,900
Okay...

3363
01:16:59,900 --> 01:17:01,150
Steve bought those bump stock

3364
01:17:01,150 --> 01:17:01,900
things...

3365
01:17:02,460 --> 01:17:03,440
Were they attached to guns?

3366
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:04,660
When they found them?

3367
01:17:05,480 --> 01:17:06,560
All I know is they were...

3368
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:07,120
Okay...

3369
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:08,190
Find out if they were attached

3370
01:17:08,190 --> 01:17:08,880
to guns...

3371
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:09,860
He may have had them...

3372
01:17:09,860 --> 01:17:10,980
In the bag...

3373
01:17:10,980 --> 01:17:12,880
Because he tried them...

3374
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:13,620
The Riddler...

3375
01:17:13,620 --> 01:17:14,400
And didn't like them...

3376
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:15,000
The Riddler...

3377
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:15,980
Have any of you ever fired an

3378
01:17:15,980 --> 01:17:16,820
automatic weapon?

3379
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:18,880
Ha ha ha ha...

3380
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:20,340
Sorry...

3381
01:17:20,340 --> 01:17:20,880
It's just like...

3382
01:17:21,480 --> 01:17:21,880
He knows...

3383
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:22,880
His guns...

3384
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:24,410
And he knows he's talking to a

3385
01:17:24,410 --> 01:17:25,880
load of fucking...

3386
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:27,140
Reporters who've never shot one

3387
01:17:27,140 --> 01:17:27,880
before...

3388
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:29,880
And didn't like them...

3389
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:31,660
Have any of you ever...

3390
01:17:31,660 --> 01:17:33,080
Like in the wake of a tragedy

3391
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:34,180
like that...

3392
01:17:34,180 --> 01:17:35,100
Kind of being...

3393
01:17:35,100 --> 01:17:36,940
Being the authority on guns...

3394
01:17:36,940 --> 01:17:37,100
And...

3395
01:17:37,100 --> 01:17:37,780
And...

3396
01:17:37,780 --> 01:17:38,880
I'd have just avoided the gun

3397
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:39,520
chat...

3398
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:40,120
I would have just kind of

3399
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:40,780
played it down...

3400
01:17:40,780 --> 01:17:41,140
And been like...

3401
01:17:41,140 --> 01:17:41,540
Ah...

3402
01:17:41,540 --> 01:17:42,400
I don't know anything...

3403
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:42,880
Look...

3404
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:44,540
That's for the police...

3405
01:17:44,540 --> 01:17:45,480
They'll find that out...

3406
01:17:45,480 --> 01:17:46,210
I'm sure the police are gonna

3407
01:17:46,210 --> 01:17:46,880
investigate...

3408
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,880
But here he is like...

3409
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:50,680
Like...

3410
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:52,600
Have you ever fired a gun?

3411
01:17:54,100 --> 01:17:56,060
Do you know what that's like?

3412
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:58,140
Fired an automatic weapon?

3413
01:17:59,140 --> 01:18:01,240
It's not fun...

3414
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:02,520
You can go do it for...

3415
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:02,760
You know...

3416
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:03,480
You give them some money...

3417
01:18:03,480 --> 01:18:04,360
And they'll let you go shoot a

3418
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:05,240
machine gun in...

3419
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:05,860
In Las Vegas...

3420
01:18:05,860 --> 01:18:06,860
Your rhetoric will smother you...

3421
01:18:06,860 --> 01:18:07,720
Okay...

3422
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,020
Your rhetoric will smother you...

3423
01:18:10,020 --> 01:18:10,640
Thank you very much...

3424
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:11,760
He's just a guy...

3425
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:12,620
Standing in front of some

3426
01:18:12,620 --> 01:18:13,320
cameras...

3427
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:15,540
Asking them to love his insane...

3428
01:18:15,540 --> 01:18:16,540
Brother...

3429
01:18:16,540 --> 01:18:19,820
Thank you very much...

3430
01:18:19,820 --> 01:18:20,300
There...

3431
01:18:20,300 --> 01:18:21,020
And Alex...

3432
01:18:21,020 --> 01:18:21,500
As well...

3433
01:18:21,500 --> 01:18:22,060
I'll get off...

3434
01:18:22,060 --> 01:18:23,180
I'll move off of this...

3435
01:18:23,180 --> 01:18:24,160
Move away from this...

3436
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:25,380
As soon as I can...

3437
01:18:25,380 --> 01:18:26,980
It's just...

3438
01:18:26,980 --> 01:18:28,040
Captivating...

3439
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:28,740
Fun...

3440
01:18:28,740 --> 01:18:29,000
I mean...

3441
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:29,940
You have to be a little weird...

3442
01:18:29,940 --> 01:18:31,140
Because it beats the crap out

3443
01:18:31,140 --> 01:18:31,860
of you...

3444
01:18:31,860 --> 01:18:32,300
It's...

3445
01:18:32,300 --> 01:18:33,460
And Steve was...

3446
01:18:33,460 --> 01:18:34,000
Beat up...

3447
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:34,580
And a little...

3448
01:18:34,580 --> 01:18:34,920
You know...

3449
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:35,580
He was...

3450
01:18:35,580 --> 01:18:35,980
He had...

3451
01:18:35,980 --> 01:18:36,900
His knees were sore...

3452
01:18:36,900 --> 01:18:38,140
And he'd fallen in the casino...

3453
01:18:38,140 --> 01:18:38,960
And his leg hurt...

3454
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:40,780
And all this stuff...

3455
01:18:40,780 --> 01:18:41,860
So...

3456
01:18:41,860 --> 01:18:43,680
He wasn't gonna hold...

3457
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:43,920
You know...

3458
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:44,180
They said...

3459
01:18:44,180 --> 01:18:45,460
How did Steve get the stuff up

3460
01:18:45,460 --> 01:18:46,260
to the...

3461
01:18:46,260 --> 01:18:46,860
To the...

3462
01:18:46,860 --> 01:18:47,560
The room...

3463
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:48,460
Steve didn't get the stuff up

3464
01:18:48,460 --> 01:18:49,200
to the room...

3465
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:50,640
He gave a kid a hundred bucks...

3466
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:51,710
And the kid brought it up on a

3467
01:18:51,710 --> 01:18:53,040
little gold trolley...

3468
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:54,490
Steve didn't carry anything up

3469
01:18:54,490 --> 01:18:55,540
to the room...

3470
01:18:55,540 --> 01:18:56,300
Was it gold?

3471
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:57,700
Or was it just kind of gold

3472
01:18:57,700 --> 01:18:58,420
colored?

3473
01:19:00,100 --> 01:19:01,220
Okay...

3474
01:19:01,220 --> 01:19:01,740
The...

3475
01:19:01,740 --> 01:19:05,120
And if the pictures show up...

3476
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:06,140
Showing me wrong there...

3477
01:19:06,140 --> 01:19:07,060
Then it's...

3478
01:19:07,060 --> 01:19:07,560
You know...

3479
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:08,720
I'll be a little surprised...

3480
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:09,650
Because Steve didn't carry

3481
01:19:09,650 --> 01:19:10,260
stuff...

3482
01:19:10,260 --> 01:19:11,290
Did you boys grow up around

3483
01:19:11,290 --> 01:19:11,640
them?

3484
01:19:11,900 --> 01:19:12,100
Who?

3485
01:19:12,340 --> 01:19:13,380
You and your brother?

3486
01:19:13,380 --> 01:19:15,260
Not in any way, shape or form...

3487
01:19:15,260 --> 01:19:16,720
Until we were...

3488
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:18,040
Late teenage...

3489
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:18,860
Did we ever...

3490
01:19:18,860 --> 01:19:20,000
My mom's...

3491
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:21,160
Not into guns at all...

3492
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:22,480
Her husband went to jail...

3493
01:19:22,480 --> 01:19:23,510
For robbing banks with a

3494
01:19:23,510 --> 01:19:24,540
machine gun...

3495
01:19:24,540 --> 01:19:25,400
My mom...

3496
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:26,600
Is not into guns for some

3497
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:27,540
reason...

3498
01:19:27,540 --> 01:19:29,540
But...

3499
01:19:29,540 --> 01:19:31,880
You know...

3500
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:32,540
Steve...

3501
01:19:33,140 --> 01:19:33,640
Would have...

3502
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:34,640
Think of that silly bump stock

3503
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:35,220
thing...

3504
01:19:35,220 --> 01:19:35,920
Whatever it is...

3505
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:37,540
Silly little bump stock thing...

3506
01:19:38,540 --> 01:19:39,540
It was a silly little thing...

3507
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:41,420
Okay...

3508
01:19:41,420 --> 01:19:42,260
It was just a...

3509
01:19:42,260 --> 01:19:43,700
It was a stupid little thing...

3510
01:19:43,700 --> 01:19:44,460
Let's forget about that bump

3511
01:19:44,460 --> 01:19:44,940
stock...

3512
01:19:44,940 --> 01:19:45,900
And tried it...

3513
01:19:45,900 --> 01:19:47,960
But if you have to hold the gun...

3514
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:48,220
I mean...

3515
01:19:48,220 --> 01:19:49,860
They're saying he had tripods...

3516
01:19:49,860 --> 01:19:51,110
That would be exactly what

3517
01:19:51,110 --> 01:19:52,340
Steve would do...

3518
01:19:52,340 --> 01:19:55,420
He's a tripod kind of guy...

3519
01:19:55,420 --> 01:19:57,130
You can't hold a machine gun

3520
01:19:57,130 --> 01:19:58,460
and shoot...

3521
01:19:58,460 --> 01:19:59,080
You're not gonna...

3522
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:00,110
A normal person is not gonna

3523
01:20:00,110 --> 01:20:01,260
hold a machine gun...

3524
01:20:01,260 --> 01:20:02,260
And shoot a hundred rounds out

3525
01:20:02,260 --> 01:20:02,820
of it...

3526
01:20:02,820 --> 01:20:04,880
It'd rip your shoulder off...

3527
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:06,070
If you've ever shot a real

3528
01:20:06,070 --> 01:20:06,880
rifle...

3529
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:08,200
You don't pull the trigger on a

3530
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:10,040
.223 a bunch of times...

3531
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:10,300
It...

3532
01:20:10,300 --> 01:20:10,760
I mean...

3533
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:11,200
I have a fake shoulder...

3534
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:11,880
Blisted!

3535
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:13,890
But it's not because of guns,

3536
01:20:13,890 --> 01:20:16,700
but I could not even shoot a .223

3537
01:20:16,700 --> 01:20:18,920
if I was a fake shoulder

3538
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:21,520
You don't pull the trigger on a

3539
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,850
.223 a bunch of times it I mean

3540
01:20:24,850 --> 01:20:26,820
I have a fake shoulder

3541
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:28,730
But it's not because of guns,

3542
01:20:28,730 --> 01:20:31,340
but I could not even shoot a .223

3543
01:20:31,340 --> 01:20:32,800
if I wanted to make more

3544
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,340
so and I don't own one this

3545
01:20:36,340 --> 01:20:38,480
just gets fucking stranger and

3546
01:20:38,480 --> 01:20:40,420
stranger the more it goes on

3547
01:20:40,420 --> 01:20:41,180
you know

3548
01:20:41,180 --> 01:20:43,360
A semi-hot it well I do imagine

3549
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,550
if the fucking next strand was

3550
01:20:45,550 --> 01:20:47,660
brother of Vegas shooter dot

3551
01:20:47,660 --> 01:20:49,680
dot I have a fake shoulder

3552
01:20:50,900 --> 01:20:52,500
But it's getting to the end now

3553
01:20:52,500 --> 01:20:53,620
so they probably won't give us

3554
01:20:53,620 --> 01:20:55,330
another strand, but he comes

3555
01:20:55,330 --> 01:20:55,700
back

3556
01:20:55,700 --> 01:20:57,600
He dials back on what he's just

3557
01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:59,240
said there, but I could not

3558
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:01,380
even shoot a .223 if I wanted

3559
01:21:01,380 --> 01:21:03,040
to make more so

3560
01:21:03,900 --> 01:21:05,430
And I don't own one. I don't

3561
01:21:05,430 --> 01:21:08,060
own you know a semi-hot it well

3562
01:21:08,060 --> 01:21:10,700
I do I don't own one

3563
01:21:10,700 --> 01:21:13,110
I don't own a semi-automatic

3564
01:21:13,110 --> 01:21:15,200
well I do well I do I do I do

3565
01:21:16,700 --> 01:21:18,990
20 I don't own one I don't own

3566
01:21:18,990 --> 01:21:19,200
a you know

3567
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:22,050
Thank you very much crazy

3568
01:21:22,050 --> 01:21:24,680
little guy and big Ang it's

3569
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,650
just it's just the way we do

3570
01:21:26,650 --> 01:21:28,560
things mate it's who we are

3571
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:29,200
mate it's who we are

3572
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:30,840
It's who we are. Christian Irwin

3573
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:32,320
thank you very much and sensual

3574
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:33,200
piece of pudding

3575
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:36,310
of pudding. I own a 22 caliber

3576
01:21:36,310 --> 01:21:41,030
little semi automatic rifle. 22

3577
01:21:41,030 --> 01:21:43,530
caliber semi automatic rifle.

3578
01:21:43,530 --> 01:21:45,200
Like a little the Ruger from

3579
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,440
DayZ. I taught my children how

3580
01:21:47,440 --> 01:21:48,540
to shoot little targets at the

3581
01:21:48,540 --> 01:21:51,020
range. But you don't shoot an

3582
01:21:51,020 --> 01:21:54,500
automatic weapon. That is Steve.

3583
01:21:54,500 --> 01:21:57,450
Steve said I mean this is what's

3584
01:21:57,450 --> 01:22:00,010
so this is why like I said it's

3585
01:22:00,010 --> 01:22:02,880
the insanity of it. When Steve

3586
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:04,790
decided to do this he still had

3587
01:22:04,790 --> 01:22:06,700
his thinking brain on because

3588
01:22:06,700 --> 01:22:08,980
he did all this stuff. He procured

3589
01:22:08,980 --> 01:22:11,050
this stuff. I mean he would get

3590
01:22:11,050 --> 01:22:12,880
a tripod to put the damn gun on

3591
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:14,760
because then you can easily

3592
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:16,910
fire the gun. That makes sense.

3593
01:22:16,910 --> 01:22:18,790
I mean these are just logical

3594
01:22:18,790 --> 01:22:21,230
things. This is no great leap.

3595
01:22:21,230 --> 01:22:22,760
I mean he.

3596
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,560
He met her. She was the host.

3597
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:27,430
She was I mean someone

3598
01:22:27,430 --> 01:22:30,240
refreshed my memory. She was a

3599
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,850
hostess. Look at this fella

3600
01:22:32,850 --> 01:22:35,780
here. He's in fucking auto mode

3601
01:22:35,780 --> 01:22:38,700
autopilot. Just leaning on the

3602
01:22:38,700 --> 01:22:41,180
side of the car. Scrolling the

3603
01:22:41,180 --> 01:22:43,570
phone. He's given up fucking

3604
01:22:43,570 --> 01:22:46,260
thinking about what to ask. He's

3605
01:22:46,260 --> 01:22:48,280
just scrolling shit on the

3606
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:49,480
phone now.

3607
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:54,190
And the jeans are there as well.

3608
01:22:54,190 --> 01:22:54,800
Whoop.

3609
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:58,820
Thank you very much BDevi.

3610
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:00,840
At the Atlantis. Steve was a

3611
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:02,620
big fish at the Atlantis in

3612
01:23:02,620 --> 01:23:04,860
Reno. Big fish at the Atlantis.

3613
01:23:05,340 --> 01:23:07,250
He was a hostess at the Atlantis.

3614
01:23:07,250 --> 01:23:09,650
Steve was a big fish at the Atlantis

3615
01:23:09,650 --> 01:23:10,500
in Reno.

3616
01:23:11,980 --> 01:23:12,660
We were. We.

3617
01:23:12,740 --> 01:23:14,040
When you think about chat

3618
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:15,740
topics. Topics on the net you

3619
01:23:15,740 --> 01:23:17,580
think in what. Aliens. UFOs.

3620
01:23:17,580 --> 01:23:19,320
Sci-fi. A little bit of sex.

3621
01:23:19,540 --> 01:23:21,070
You don't anything about the

3622
01:23:21,070 --> 01:23:22,200
parent community.

3623
01:23:23,220 --> 01:23:24,620
Thank you very much there, Omar.

3624
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,380
Enjoying the media analysis of

3625
01:23:26,380 --> 01:23:26,920
this.

3626
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:28,860
Never seen it before, and it is

3627
01:23:28,860 --> 01:23:29,640
bizarre.

3628
01:23:31,900 --> 01:23:32,820
Steve's this big.

3629
01:23:32,820 --> 01:23:34,170
Don't know how you've not seen

3630
01:23:34,170 --> 01:23:34,600
this.

3631
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:36,460
This tiny thing.

3632
01:23:37,420 --> 01:23:39,720
He loved her.

3633
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:40,340
I mean.

3634
01:23:42,220 --> 01:23:43,400
Look at that, look.

3635
01:23:44,020 --> 01:23:45,010
Yeah, we're getting a great

3636
01:23:45,010 --> 01:23:45,600
angle.

3637
01:23:45,740 --> 01:23:46,320
We're seeing him.

3638
01:23:46,460 --> 01:23:47,420
Yeah, he's torn apart.

3639
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:49,240
Yeah, he shouldn't be on TV yet.

3640
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:49,840
That's good.

3641
01:23:49,940 --> 01:23:50,980
The framing is great.

3642
01:23:51,540 --> 01:23:53,300
Yeah, you can really see that

3643
01:23:53,300 --> 01:23:55,280
he's struggling here.

3644
01:23:57,060 --> 01:23:57,540
Yeah.

3645
01:23:58,080 --> 01:23:59,400
It's a great shot, guys.

3646
01:23:59,500 --> 01:24:00,060
Great shot.

3647
01:24:04,440 --> 01:24:06,020
I mean, he doted on her.

3648
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:08,340
I mean, it's...

3649
01:24:08,340 --> 01:24:09,580
Like I said, but you're not

3650
01:24:09,580 --> 01:24:10,360
going to...

3651
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:11,740
Maybe she has pictures of this.

3652
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:12,800
Maybe her side of the family or

3653
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,000
the kids took pictures of this,

3654
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:15,940
but you don't, once again...

3655
01:24:15,940 --> 01:24:19,100
Thank you, Vardy.

3656
01:24:19,100 --> 01:24:19,660
Thank you very much.

3657
01:24:19,660 --> 01:24:20,780
We're getting our first

3658
01:24:20,780 --> 01:24:22,240
reaction from the family of the

3659
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:23,300
Las Vegas shooter.

3660
01:24:23,420 --> 01:24:24,100
This is the brother.

3661
01:24:24,180 --> 01:24:25,660
Even I've never seen it before

3662
01:24:25,660 --> 01:24:27,240
where they've actually had to

3663
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:28,630
fucking just cut away from

3664
01:24:28,630 --> 01:24:29,480
something.

3665
01:24:29,660 --> 01:24:30,860
They were getting gold, and

3666
01:24:30,860 --> 01:24:32,230
then they've cut away back to

3667
01:24:32,230 --> 01:24:33,020
the studio.

3668
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:33,300
Have they?

3669
01:24:33,380 --> 01:24:34,060
Game Boy.

3670
01:24:35,060 --> 01:24:36,060
Thank you very much.

3671
01:24:36,060 --> 01:24:36,240
Thank you very much there.

3672
01:24:36,940 --> 01:24:38,780
Wanty, who says, he was a motivator.

3673
01:24:39,660 --> 01:24:40,780
Buy yourselves in sweets.

3674
01:24:40,980 --> 01:24:42,860
Thank you very much, VeganMusliman

3675
01:24:42,860 --> 01:24:44,200
and Omar and Bedevi.

3676
01:24:44,300 --> 01:24:45,240
We'll move on from this.

3677
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:46,450
Of the Las Vegas shooter who

3678
01:24:46,450 --> 01:24:47,870
clearly is still processing the

3679
01:24:47,870 --> 01:24:49,120
actions of his brother.

3680
01:24:49,620 --> 01:24:50,180
That this...

3681
01:24:50,180 --> 01:24:51,440
He was behind the worst shooter.

3682
01:24:51,440 --> 01:24:52,440
Doesn't he look like...

3683
01:24:52,440 --> 01:24:52,600
Doesn't he look like...

3684
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:54,500
Not Jesse Plemons or Matt Damon

3685
01:24:54,500 --> 01:24:56,240
anymore, but he's more like

3686
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,130
that Chris Hansen from To Catch

3687
01:24:58,130 --> 01:24:59,160
a Predator.

3688
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:02,580
Maybe there's something in that.

3689
01:25:03,580 --> 01:25:04,640
Ham Spree.

3690
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:05,740
Thank you very much.

3691
01:25:08,860 --> 01:25:09,860
I am...

3692
01:25:09,860 --> 01:25:11,860
How the hell did you end up on

3693
01:25:11,860 --> 01:25:12,440
this?

3694
01:25:13,660 --> 01:25:15,400
I just wanted to look at the

3695
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:19,220
way the news would just...

3696
01:25:19,220 --> 01:25:20,540
They don't care whether or not

3697
01:25:20,540 --> 01:25:21,840
someone's in a bad state.

3698
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:24,840
And also see how...

3699
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:25,940
See the bizarre shit he was

3700
01:25:25,940 --> 01:25:27,160
saying as well, and whether or

3701
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:27,780
not it...

3702
01:25:27,780 --> 01:25:28,780
It...

3703
01:25:28,780 --> 01:25:30,380
Lit any more flames or sparks

3704
01:25:30,380 --> 01:25:31,760
about what happened.

3705
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:33,700
Because I thought about that

3706
01:25:33,700 --> 01:25:34,860
tragedy that had occurred.

3707
01:25:35,020 --> 01:25:35,760
And how there was...

3708
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:37,760
Bizarrely no information.

3709
01:25:38,460 --> 01:25:39,440
Much like the...

3710
01:25:39,440 --> 01:25:41,660
Attempt on the hit of Donald

3711
01:25:41,660 --> 01:25:42,480
Trump.

3712
01:25:43,220 --> 01:25:43,760
Where they're like...

3713
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:45,360
He had no...

3714
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:46,840
The killer had no digital

3715
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:48,080
footprint at all.

3716
01:25:48,220 --> 01:25:48,760
He was...

3717
01:25:49,700 --> 01:25:50,560
A ghost.

3718
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:51,840
The guy was a ghost.

3719
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:54,760
I know this guy wasn't a ghost.

3720
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:57,160
But...

3721
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:58,920
Just mad to think how it all

3722
01:25:58,920 --> 01:25:59,820
happened.

3723
01:25:59,920 --> 01:26:01,000
And then this guy gave...

3724
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:02,440
Voluntarily gave loads of

3725
01:26:02,440 --> 01:26:03,600
information away.

3726
01:26:03,820 --> 01:26:04,860
And it starts off...

3727
01:26:04,860 --> 01:26:05,920
It's a real fucking...

3728
01:26:06,740 --> 01:26:06,920
Rollercoaster.

3729
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:08,640
Because you start off feeling

3730
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:10,060
bad and sorry for him.

3731
01:26:10,100 --> 01:26:10,920
And then you start going...

3732
01:26:11,480 --> 01:26:12,320
You start...

3733
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,740
You're enveloped in his story.

3734
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:15,760
And you're like...

3735
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:16,400
Where's he gonna go?

3736
01:26:16,460 --> 01:26:17,980
What's he gonna say next, man?

3737
01:26:18,060 --> 01:26:18,380
He's...

3738
01:26:18,380 --> 01:26:19,830
He's not about fucking eating

3739
01:26:19,830 --> 01:26:21,520
thousands of dollars of sushi.

3740
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:22,670
Being told to go off and get a

3741
01:26:22,670 --> 01:26:23,260
sandwich.

3742
01:26:24,260 --> 01:26:25,320
Or just like...

3743
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:26,520
You know, all sorts of crazy

3744
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:27,360
little details.

3745
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:28,180
Thank you.

3746
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:29,360
In recent US history...

3747
01:26:30,140 --> 01:26:32,260
We are learning that...

3748
01:26:32,260 --> 01:26:33,090
According to the brother, he

3749
01:26:33,090 --> 01:26:34,480
was highly intelligent...

3750
01:26:34,480 --> 01:26:35,360
Highly successful...

3751
01:26:35,900 --> 01:26:36,760
And very generous to his

3752
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:38,140
friends and family.

3753
01:26:38,540 --> 01:26:39,710
And that he came from a family

3754
01:26:39,710 --> 01:26:40,360
of four.

3755
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:41,760
His mother was a secretary.

3756
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:43,310
And his father had left the

3757
01:26:43,310 --> 01:26:44,200
kids alone.

3758
01:26:45,340 --> 01:26:46,420
And there you go.

3759
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:48,680
That...

3760
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:49,720
As they say...

3761
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:50,280
Is that.

3762
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:51,750
We won't go on to why Nazis

3763
01:26:51,750 --> 01:26:53,880
were obsessed with Freemasons.

3764
01:26:54,060 --> 01:26:55,430
We won't go into the dangers of

3765
01:26:55,430 --> 01:26:57,180
pathological gambling, mental

3766
01:26:57,180 --> 01:26:58,720
health and personality.

3767
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:00,890
We will not click on the Anders

3768
01:27:00,890 --> 01:27:03,580
Breivik video that they've made.

3769
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,560
Killing Spree HD True Lives.

3770
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:10,520
Killing Spree H...

3771
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:14,760
Killing Spree HD True Lives.

3772
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:16,920
Good luck.

3773
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,920
And we will then...

3774
01:27:20,580 --> 01:27:22,220
Twist and turn...

3775
01:27:22,220 --> 01:27:23,060
And pivot...

3776
01:27:23,060 --> 01:27:23,920
As they say nowadays...

3777
01:27:24,700 --> 01:27:26,920
Back to the cozy confines of...

3778
01:27:27,700 --> 01:27:29,280
The Computer Chronicles.

3779
01:27:29,420 --> 01:27:30,340
The man...

3780
01:27:30,340 --> 01:27:31,080
The myth...

3781
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:31,740
The legend...

3782
01:27:31,740 --> 01:27:32,020
Stuart...

3783
01:27:32,020 --> 01:27:33,380
Almost feels...

3784
01:27:33,380 --> 01:27:34,060
Like...

3785
01:27:34,060 --> 01:27:34,950
It's not right to go from

3786
01:27:34,950 --> 01:27:36,200
something like this...

3787
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:36,520
Into...

3788
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:37,290
But again, it was just an

3789
01:27:37,290 --> 01:27:37,740
interview.

3790
01:27:38,140 --> 01:27:38,380
Okay?

3791
01:27:38,460 --> 01:27:39,260
It wasn't like...

3792
01:27:39,260 --> 01:27:40,950
Actual Killing Spree HD True

3793
01:27:40,950 --> 01:27:41,560
Lives.

3794
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:42,660
Do you know?

3795
01:27:43,860 --> 01:27:45,920
So, without further ado...

3796
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:46,920
I...

3797
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:48,220
Have for you...

3798
01:27:48,220 --> 01:27:49,440
And myself as well, let's just

3799
01:27:49,440 --> 01:27:49,780
say.

3800
01:27:49,780 --> 01:27:50,820
It's an indulgence.

3801
01:27:51,380 --> 01:27:52,380
It's the beauty.

3802
01:27:52,700 --> 01:27:53,500
It's the majesty.

3803
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:54,520
It's the motion.

3804
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:55,420
It's the man.

3805
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:55,980
The myth.

3806
01:27:56,060 --> 01:27:56,440
The legend.

3807
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:56,900
True.

3808
01:27:57,220 --> 01:27:58,300
Baby Shafi.

3809
01:27:58,520 --> 01:27:58,920
Coming...

3810
01:27:58,920 --> 01:27:59,880
Right up.

3811
01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:00,800
Thick and fast.

3812
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:14,180
Twisted.

3813
01:28:14,180 --> 01:28:26,360
Twisted.

3814
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,460
Dispatches unwraps the story by...

3815
01:28:28,460 --> 01:28:29,480
People getting undressed, you

3816
01:28:29,480 --> 01:28:30,380
know, on the bathroom.

3817
01:28:30,580 --> 01:28:30,960
Twisted.

3818
01:28:31,100 --> 01:28:32,220
Dispatches investigates.

3819
01:28:32,420 --> 01:28:33,900
Monday at 8 on 4.

3820
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:34,860
Thank you.

3821
01:28:36,900 --> 01:28:37,660
Paul Schindler.

3822
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:38,740
The dispatches undercover

3823
01:28:38,740 --> 01:28:39,520
investigation.

3824
01:28:39,700 --> 01:28:41,020
Monday at 8 on 4.

3825
01:28:41,060 --> 01:28:41,760
Paul Schindler.

3826
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:42,600
Snoopering.

3827
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:44,880
Where's the cue ball going?

3828
01:28:45,140 --> 01:28:46,540
Where's the cue ball going?

3829
01:28:46,900 --> 01:28:46,900
Where's the cue ball going?

3830
01:28:54,900 --> 01:28:55,900
Is Chip your real name, by the

3831
01:28:55,900 --> 01:28:56,870
way, or is that a persona for

3832
01:28:56,870 --> 01:28:57,500
the website?

3833
01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:58,740
No, now it's my real name.

3834
01:28:58,960 --> 01:28:59,140
Now?

3835
01:28:59,420 --> 01:29:00,690
It was originally a nickname

3836
01:29:00,690 --> 01:29:02,110
that got added into my name

3837
01:29:02,110 --> 01:29:02,800
legally.

3838
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:03,180
All right.

3839
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:04,330
A lot of the sites have a sort

3840
01:29:04,330 --> 01:29:05,580
of sexual connotation of take

3841
01:29:05,580 --> 01:29:06,780
your clothes off, Chip.

3842
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:07,160
Sure.

3843
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:08,460
Housewife Cam.

3844
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:09,820
Is there a kind of sexual

3845
01:29:09,820 --> 01:29:10,960
connotation to it?

3846
01:29:10,980 --> 01:29:11,580
I mean, you're a very

3847
01:29:11,580 --> 01:29:12,160
attractive woman.

3848
01:29:12,260 --> 01:29:13,230
A good-looking lady who walks

3849
01:29:13,230 --> 01:29:14,160
around sometimes with not too

3850
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:14,820
much clothes on.

3851
01:29:14,940 --> 01:29:16,320
Who shots you there sort of topless

3852
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:17,450
at the keyboard or hanging

3853
01:29:17,450 --> 01:29:19,540
around in, you know, small

3854
01:29:19,540 --> 01:29:20,280
clothing.

3855
01:29:20,660 --> 01:29:21,990
Additional funding is provided

3856
01:29:21,990 --> 01:29:23,440
by the Software Publishers

3857
01:29:23,440 --> 01:29:24,380
Association.

3858
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:26,010
Providers of educational

3859
01:29:26,010 --> 01:29:27,100
materials to help manage

3860
01:29:27,100 --> 01:29:27,740
software.

3861
01:29:30,700 --> 01:29:31,980
Welcome, Paul Schindler.

3862
01:29:32,420 --> 01:29:33,860
Today, I'm Paul Schindler.

3863
01:29:34,580 --> 01:29:35,700
Here we go.

3864
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:36,380
Knee shirt.

3865
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:37,160
Computer.

3866
01:29:38,060 --> 01:29:38,720
How's the way?

3867
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:39,560
Give it a quick, give it a

3868
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:40,640
quick, give it a quick, give it

3869
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:41,020
a quick.

3870
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:42,400
33 seconds and counting, ladies

3871
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:43,100
and gentlemen.

3872
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:44,500
33 seconds and counting.

3873
01:29:44,660 --> 01:29:45,980
All associates, stand by.

3874
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:47,680
98 is about to launch.

3875
01:29:53,900 --> 01:30:18,900
*Country music*

3876
01:30:18,900 --> 01:30:19,900
FAAA!

3877
01:30:19,900 --> 01:30:20,400
32.

3878
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:24,400
That's... that's 32. Not Fat32.

3879
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,060
And it would have been great to

3880
01:30:26,060 --> 01:30:27,940
have just gone straight, sigged

3881
01:30:27,940 --> 01:30:29,400
into an episode there.

3882
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:32,230
But I'm not sure which one to

3883
01:30:32,230 --> 01:30:33,400
go into.

3884
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:35,200
I just like the looks of some

3885
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:37,010
of the still frames from the

3886
01:30:37,010 --> 01:30:39,400
intro bits of the episodes here.

3887
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:41,400
Thank you very much, Dara Darmody.

3888
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,010
Added a What's New section to

3889
01:30:44,010 --> 01:30:45,400
the website.

3890
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:48,300
Beautiful stuff. Let's check

3891
01:30:48,300 --> 01:30:49,400
that out.

3892
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:52,330
Uh... What's New section? What's

3893
01:30:52,330 --> 01:30:53,400
New Pussycat?

3894
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:54,750
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

3895
01:30:54,750 --> 01:30:56,100
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's

3896
01:30:56,100 --> 01:30:56,400
new?

3897
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:58,400
Wow.

3898
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:00,400
And that is...

3899
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:02,180
This is a development right

3900
01:31:02,180 --> 01:31:04,400
here. This is a progression.

3901
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:06,170
And it's unbelievable work

3902
01:31:06,170 --> 01:31:07,790
which has gone into it yet

3903
01:31:07,790 --> 01:31:09,920
again here from Dara. Now you

3904
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:11,820
can add any YouTube link as

3905
01:31:11,820 --> 01:31:14,730
background music. That's

3906
01:31:14,730 --> 01:31:17,400
fantastic.

3907
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:18,400
Unbelievable stuff.

3908
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,830
If you hold down timestamp keys,

3909
01:31:20,830 --> 01:31:23,020
the video will pause when you

3910
01:31:23,020 --> 01:31:25,560
release the key. Tapping the

3911
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:28,400
key still works as before.

3912
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:30,910
Thanks to Jacksonville for the

3913
01:31:30,910 --> 01:31:32,980
contribution. Chris D. Thank

3914
01:31:32,980 --> 01:31:34,140
you very, very much. Mary Lou's

3915
01:31:34,140 --> 01:31:35,400
Toy Boy. Thank you very much.

3916
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:37,110
Remember fucking Jeremy Kyle

3917
01:31:37,110 --> 01:31:39,420
the other day going, "Is ya a

3918
01:31:39,420 --> 01:31:42,400
toy boy? You got a toy boy?"

3919
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:45,310
Uh... completely inappropriate

3920
01:31:45,310 --> 01:31:46,400
and bizarre.

3921
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:47,650
Uh... video timestamps now

3922
01:31:47,650 --> 01:31:48,860
saved permanently only if you're

3923
01:31:48,860 --> 01:31:50,870
logged in. I think I'm logged

3924
01:31:50,870 --> 01:31:51,400
in.

3925
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:53,170
And uh... you know, I'm just

3926
01:31:53,170 --> 01:31:54,500
trusting you, Dara. I really am

3927
01:31:54,500 --> 01:31:55,880
trusting you. I log into your

3928
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:58,160
site. You... you probably can

3929
01:31:58,160 --> 01:31:59,570
see whenever I'm logged in and

3930
01:31:59,570 --> 01:32:00,620
what I'm doing. You can

3931
01:32:00,620 --> 01:32:01,760
probably see where I'm... I'm

3932
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:03,600
logged in from. You probably

3933
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:05,390
know what browser I'm using.

3934
01:32:05,390 --> 01:32:06,940
You probably know who I am. You

3935
01:32:06,940 --> 01:32:08,450
know a lot of information. But

3936
01:32:08,450 --> 01:32:09,400
I'm just...

3937
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:11,650
I think you must be sound

3938
01:32:11,650 --> 01:32:13,300
because you're doing all this

3939
01:32:13,300 --> 01:32:16,420
good stuff. You must be sound.

3940
01:32:16,420 --> 01:32:19,060
You're doing all this good

3941
01:32:19,060 --> 01:32:22,400
stuff. So you must be sound.

3942
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:23,980
And I mean, if I was to fall

3943
01:32:23,980 --> 01:32:25,650
victim to some sort of cyber

3944
01:32:25,650 --> 01:32:27,510
hack or attack, I wouldn't

3945
01:32:27,510 --> 01:32:29,450
think of you. I really wouldn't

3946
01:32:29,450 --> 01:32:32,010
think of you. Because it's so

3947
01:32:32,010 --> 01:32:34,750
good. And it's like so... it's

3948
01:32:34,750 --> 01:32:36,190
obviously someone who loves the

3949
01:32:36,190 --> 01:32:37,410
computer chronicles and

3950
01:32:37,410 --> 01:32:38,400
watching that.

3951
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:40,020
and watching that sort of stuff.

3952
01:32:41,580 --> 01:32:42,480
So, uh,

3953
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:43,700
fair fucking play.

3954
01:32:44,460 --> 01:32:44,900
What's this?

3955
01:32:45,100 --> 01:32:46,820
Background music times 1000.

3956
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:49,440
Okay, that's great stuff.

3957
01:32:50,440 --> 01:32:52,050
Video timestamps can now have

3958
01:32:52,050 --> 01:32:52,400
names

3959
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:53,660
so you can keep track of your

3960
01:32:53,660 --> 01:32:54,380
many samples.

3961
01:32:57,420 --> 01:32:58,320
Beautiful stuff.

3962
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:00,020
Right, let's just go straight

3963
01:33:00,020 --> 01:33:00,780
for it here.

3964
01:33:01,480 --> 01:33:02,600
I have a Webby,

3965
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:04,970
I have Net Cafe Webby Awards

3966
01:33:04,970 --> 01:33:06,100
ready to go.

3967
01:33:06,740 --> 01:33:07,740
What was the other one now?

3968
01:33:07,820 --> 01:33:08,750
There was another one there I

3969
01:33:08,750 --> 01:33:08,980
had,

3970
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:09,900
Amiga or something.

3971
01:33:10,020 --> 01:33:11,000
The new Amigas.

3972
01:33:11,780 --> 01:33:12,860
Now, if I've seen this one,

3973
01:33:13,580 --> 01:33:14,880
we're gonna have to fucking

3974
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:16,440
turn it off, right?

3975
01:33:16,820 --> 01:33:17,880
Maybe we have seen it.

3976
01:33:18,380 --> 01:33:19,490
It doesn't say watched on this

3977
01:33:19,490 --> 01:33:19,900
list,

3978
01:33:19,980 --> 01:33:21,500
but we watched a ton of them

3979
01:33:21,500 --> 01:33:22,960
before we'd even got to the

3980
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:23,680
website.

3981
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:26,000
So, it's crazy.

3982
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:27,880
It's crazy.

3983
01:33:29,480 --> 01:33:30,720
It's 1988.

3984
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:33,340
It's not going to have the high-paced

3985
01:33:33,340 --> 01:33:33,820
pizzazz

3986
01:33:33,820 --> 01:33:34,980
of the late 90s,

3987
01:33:35,100 --> 01:33:36,920
but there's a heart to the 80s.

3988
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:40,540
There's something in it.

3989
01:33:41,460 --> 01:33:43,380
And if it's Amiga,

3990
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:45,700
then probably we're gonna see

3991
01:33:45,700 --> 01:33:46,480
some games

3992
01:33:46,480 --> 01:33:48,200
and game graphics

3993
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:49,440
of the time,

3994
01:33:49,660 --> 01:33:50,320
of the day.

3995
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:53,860
there's a warm glow.

3996
01:33:56,860 --> 01:33:59,200
Welcome to the Computer Chronicles.

3997
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:00,100
A computer...

3998
01:34:00,100 --> 01:34:01,740
What the fuck?

3999
01:34:02,260 --> 01:34:02,980
Perfect stuff.

4000
01:34:03,060 --> 01:34:03,880
Have we seen this?

4001
01:34:03,940 --> 01:34:04,700
Because I remember...

4002
01:34:04,700 --> 01:34:05,980
Oh, the light keeps going off.

4003
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:07,900
Have we seen this one here?

4004
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:10,240
Quasi-quarting.

4005
01:34:10,620 --> 01:34:12,000
It's your man,

4006
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:16,000
none other than Stephen Hawking

4007
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:19,180
on the Computer Chronicles.

4008
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:20,920
He does the intro.

4009
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:22,460
Thank you very much there,

4010
01:34:23,460 --> 01:34:24,040
Owen Murphy.

4011
01:34:25,420 --> 01:34:26,920
Get serious now, Francis.

4012
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:27,540
Could Dara,

4013
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:28,900
the host of the website,

4014
01:34:29,020 --> 01:34:30,640
be Demon Gary Neville?

4015
01:34:32,500 --> 01:34:33,280
Biding his time

4016
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:34,560
before he hacks you down

4017
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:35,120
in the box.

4018
01:34:35,260 --> 01:34:35,720
Hack job.

4019
01:34:35,820 --> 01:34:36,760
I don't know about that.

4020
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:37,740
Look, I was only joking

4021
01:34:37,740 --> 01:34:38,340
when I said that.

4022
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:39,220
He's obviously not...

4023
01:34:39,980 --> 01:34:40,660
He's a good guy.

4024
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:41,700
He's a stand-up guy.

4025
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:42,440
He's a stand-...

4026
01:34:42,440 --> 01:34:44,440
Dara is a stand-alone guy.

4027
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:45,440
Okay?

4028
01:34:47,440 --> 01:34:48,320
Thank you very much

4029
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:49,040
for the tip, Owen.

4030
01:34:51,060 --> 01:34:53,340
Welcome to the Computer Chronicles.

4031
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:56,480
Welcome to the Computer Chronicles.

4032
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:00,740
Besmudge was another word,

4033
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:01,080
you know,

4034
01:35:01,380 --> 01:35:02,020
that he said.

4035
01:35:02,380 --> 01:35:04,600
Welcome to the Computer Chronicles.

4036
01:35:04,820 --> 01:35:06,300
A computer that can talk,

4037
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:06,800
thanks to...

4038
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:07,960
Can it talk, though?

4039
01:35:08,260 --> 01:35:09,240
It's very hard to really

4040
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:09,840
understand.

4041
01:35:10,480 --> 01:35:11,820
I can safely say

4042
01:35:11,820 --> 01:35:12,820
that the majority of people

4043
01:35:12,820 --> 01:35:14,060
would not understand

4044
01:35:14,060 --> 01:35:15,440
what that just said there.

4045
01:35:16,860 --> 01:35:17,300
Alva,

4046
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:18,720
thank you very much, Alva.

4047
01:35:19,300 --> 01:35:20,160
Just quickly look

4048
01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:20,980
and make sure I haven't missed

4049
01:35:20,980 --> 01:35:21,220
any.

4050
01:35:21,300 --> 01:35:22,480
Mary Lou's Toy Boy,

4051
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:23,060
thank you very much.

4052
01:35:23,140 --> 01:35:24,020
Sensual Piece of Pudding,

4053
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:24,920
Ham Spree,

4054
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:25,700
Wanty,

4055
01:35:26,480 --> 01:35:27,060
Omar,

4056
01:35:27,460 --> 01:35:28,100
B-Devvy,

4057
01:35:28,260 --> 01:35:29,000
Crazy Little Guy,

4058
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:29,600
Big Edge,

4059
01:35:29,700 --> 01:35:30,440
Christian Irwin,

4060
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:32,900
Alex Hiddle,

4061
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:35,120
Johnny Pistol,

4062
01:35:35,820 --> 01:35:36,820
David Sheridan,

4063
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:38,540
Gridrain 741,

4064
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:39,840
Stand Alone Steve,

4065
01:35:39,980 --> 01:35:40,780
Brapsanagan,

4066
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:42,560
Bucking of Bad Dad,

4067
01:35:43,220 --> 01:35:44,360
and Steve Sidewell.

4068
01:35:44,420 --> 01:35:45,200
I think we got you.

4069
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:46,200
I think we got you.

4070
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:47,280
Thank you very much, lads.

4071
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:47,980
Very kind of you.

4072
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:49,440
A built-in speech chip.

4073
01:35:49,780 --> 01:35:50,900
Computer, 200 pounds.

4074
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:51,200
A computer...

4075
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:52,860
Computer, 200 pounds.

4076
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:53,780
That can talk,

4077
01:35:53,900 --> 01:35:54,200
thanks to a built...

4078
01:35:54,940 --> 01:35:56,510
Welcome to the Computer, 200

4079
01:35:56,510 --> 01:35:57,220
pounds.

4080
01:35:57,420 --> 01:35:58,900
A computer that can talk,

4081
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:00,340
thanks to a built-in speech

4082
01:36:00,340 --> 01:36:00,820
chip.

4083
01:36:01,100 --> 01:36:02,330
A computer with exceptional

4084
01:36:02,330 --> 01:36:02,860
graphics

4085
01:36:02,860 --> 01:36:04,180
and sound capabilities.

4086
01:36:04,540 --> 01:36:05,240
And look at that.

4087
01:36:05,580 --> 01:36:06,880
This stance,

4088
01:36:07,100 --> 01:36:07,960
the sitting stance.

4089
01:36:07,980 --> 01:36:09,200
Computer that can do multi...

4090
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:10,220
And the grip.

4091
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:11,060
It's a tight grip.

4092
01:36:11,740 --> 01:36:12,760
A man who's delivering

4093
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:14,200
a very important piece to

4094
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:14,800
camera.

4095
01:36:14,860 --> 01:36:15,560
It's going to be the intro.

4096
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:16,740
It's going to form the basis

4097
01:36:16,740 --> 01:36:18,040
of the episode.

4098
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:20,520
So it needs to be tight.

4099
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:21,900
I reckon he only did it

4100
01:36:21,900 --> 01:36:22,760
in one take anyway.

4101
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,080
And doing that sort of stuff

4102
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:26,820
just helps you really

4103
01:36:26,820 --> 01:36:27,900
just get a bit of purchase

4104
01:36:27,900 --> 01:36:28,910
on what it is you're fucking

4105
01:36:28,910 --> 01:36:29,140
doing.

4106
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:30,040
Like you're about to swing

4107
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:31,300
a baseball bat or something.

4108
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:34,140
Thank you very much, DJ Chalky.

4109
01:36:34,140 --> 01:36:36,070
It's computational graphics and

4110
01:36:36,070 --> 01:36:37,950
sound capabilities, a computer

4111
01:36:37,950 --> 01:36:39,660
that can do multitasking.

4112
01:36:39,660 --> 01:36:41,720
It's called the Amiga 500, and

4113
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:44,110
at under $1,000, some say it's

4114
01:36:44,110 --> 01:36:46,130
got the best price performance

4115
01:36:46,130 --> 01:36:47,550
ratio of any computer on the

4116
01:36:47,550 --> 01:36:48,180
market.

4117
01:36:48,580 --> 01:36:49,810
Today, we take a look at the

4118
01:36:49,810 --> 01:36:51,530
Commodore Amiga on this edition

4119
01:36:51,530 --> 01:36:53,440
of the Computer Chronicles.

4120
01:36:54,300 --> 01:36:54,940
Lovely stuff.

4121
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:55,920
Reassuring.

4122
01:36:55,920 --> 01:37:07,040
Nice bit of whimsical stuff.

4123
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:09,120
And then progressing into the

4124
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:10,660
electronic music.

4125
01:37:13,500 --> 01:37:15,070
You know, Kraftwerk, that other

4126
01:37:15,070 --> 01:37:18,660
book, The American Lad.

4127
01:37:18,740 --> 01:37:20,110
The Computer Chronicles is made

4128
01:37:20,110 --> 01:37:21,590
possible in part by CompuServe,

4129
01:37:21,590 --> 01:37:23,000
featuring an online reference

4130
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:24,430
library, Wall Street Report,

4131
01:37:24,430 --> 01:37:25,900
and I'll see you next time.

4132
01:37:25,900 --> 01:37:27,640
Research Project Incorporated

4133
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:29,180
was an album he released.

4134
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:30,900
Look at that, He-Man.

4135
01:37:31,420 --> 01:37:32,820
Masters of the fucking universe.

4136
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:34,360
Helping people get the most

4137
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:35,480
from computers.

4138
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:37,340
Beautiful stuff.

4139
01:37:38,180 --> 01:37:38,860
Absolutely beautiful.

4140
01:37:38,860 --> 01:37:40,140
Additional funding is provided

4141
01:37:40,140 --> 01:37:41,390
by McGraw-Hill, publishers of

4142
01:37:41,390 --> 01:37:41,820
Byte.

4143
01:37:41,980 --> 01:37:43,160
And look, listen to that.

4144
01:37:43,940 --> 01:37:44,880
That 808.

4145
01:37:46,580 --> 01:37:47,160
Raymond Scott there for a cue

4146
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:49,200
with the information.

4147
01:37:50,100 --> 01:37:51,180
Raymond Scott.

4148
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:54,440
Manhattan Research Incorporated.

4149
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:57,050
You had a bit of that in the

4150
01:37:57,050 --> 01:37:58,330
intro sort of stuff there as

4151
01:37:58,330 --> 01:37:59,660
well when we got to this.

4152
01:38:00,660 --> 01:38:01,060
There.

4153
01:38:06,940 --> 01:38:08,600
Nearly everyone in the future.

4154
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:10,600
Nearly everyone in the future

4155
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:12,300
will cook electrically.

4156
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:14,820
Or will.

4157
01:38:14,820 --> 01:38:16,720
I can't remember the quote.

4158
01:38:16,820 --> 01:38:17,720
That's the wrong quote.

4159
01:38:18,220 --> 01:38:19,000
Thank you very much there,

4160
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:19,780
Spaceboots.

4161
01:38:20,580 --> 01:38:22,800
And Eric's nosy neighbor.

4162
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:23,720
Thank you very much.

4163
01:38:23,940 --> 01:38:25,340
The Computer Chronicles is made

4164
01:38:25,340 --> 01:38:27,100
possible in part by CompuServe.

4165
01:38:27,460 --> 01:38:28,790
Featuring an online reference

4166
01:38:28,790 --> 01:38:30,630
library, Wall Street Reports,

4167
01:38:30,630 --> 01:38:31,280
at home.

4168
01:38:31,320 --> 01:38:32,400
I think we've gone through this

4169
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:32,820
before.

4170
01:38:32,820 --> 01:38:33,660
I think we've gone through this

4171
01:38:33,660 --> 01:38:34,470
before, but it does warrant

4172
01:38:34,470 --> 01:38:35,180
another inspection.

4173
01:38:35,180 --> 01:38:37,260
Featuring an online reference

4174
01:38:37,260 --> 01:38:39,400
library, you've literally got

4175
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:41,340
books and bollocks coming at

4176
01:38:41,340 --> 01:38:43,810
you like Cleopatra through the

4177
01:38:43,810 --> 01:38:44,900
computer screen.

4178
01:38:44,900 --> 01:38:48,540
Grolier's Academic American Encyclopedia.

4179
01:38:48,540 --> 01:38:51,900
Do you know, this was the big

4180
01:38:51,900 --> 01:38:53,760
deal back in the day.

4181
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:55,980
This was the big stuff.

4182
01:38:56,580 --> 01:38:57,570
And look at that animation

4183
01:38:57,570 --> 01:38:58,180
there.

4184
01:38:58,280 --> 01:38:59,700
The cow coming out of the

4185
01:38:59,700 --> 01:39:01,580
computer towards you at pace.

4186
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:05,860
Very, very well done.

4187
01:39:05,940 --> 01:39:08,240
It's a strong, muscular bull.

4188
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:11,840
Oof.

4189
01:39:14,660 --> 01:39:14,960
Report.

4190
01:39:15,780 --> 01:39:16,760
And this tail, they even left

4191
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:18,460
the tail in there as well.

4192
01:39:19,660 --> 01:39:20,220
A pen.

4193
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:21,670
More stuff, more writing

4194
01:39:21,670 --> 01:39:22,440
material.

4195
01:39:24,440 --> 01:39:25,380
And then,

4196
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:28,620
Sports Walkman.

4197
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:29,920
That's the Sony Walkman, one of

4198
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:30,600
the originals.

4199
01:39:30,700 --> 01:39:32,190
And then an advert for fucking

4200
01:39:32,190 --> 01:39:34,040
Levi's or a Springsteen album.

4201
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:36,320
A floppy disk.

4202
01:39:39,060 --> 01:39:39,340
A fax machine phone or

4203
01:39:39,340 --> 01:39:40,940
something.

4204
01:39:42,440 --> 01:39:43,250
A camera and then a fucking

4205
01:39:43,250 --> 01:39:44,460
airplane.

4206
01:39:44,460 --> 01:39:45,440
And then, you think that's

4207
01:39:45,440 --> 01:39:45,880
enough?

4208
01:39:46,580 --> 01:39:47,460
That would be enough.

4209
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:49,210
Who steps out of the machine

4210
01:39:49,210 --> 01:39:49,760
then?

4211
01:39:50,260 --> 01:39:50,860
None other.

4212
01:39:52,060 --> 01:39:54,200
The knockoff He-Man.

4213
01:39:54,620 --> 01:39:55,880
With a lightsaber.

4214
01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:57,860
A Star Wars lightsaber.

4215
01:39:57,980 --> 01:39:59,440
But, before he gets the lightsaber

4216
01:39:59,440 --> 01:40:01,460
out, he takes down this fucking...

4217
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:03,440
Fuck here, look.

4218
01:40:03,480 --> 01:40:04,380
Who's trying to kill him.

4219
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:06,160
Pew!

4220
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:07,640
Shoots him to death.

4221
01:40:09,300 --> 01:40:10,220
Beautiful stuff.

4222
01:40:11,140 --> 01:40:12,440
Then he gets his sword going.

4223
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:14,260
Wow.

4224
01:40:14,500 --> 01:40:15,070
You don't want to mess with

4225
01:40:15,070 --> 01:40:15,540
that fella.

4226
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:17,740
And that...

4227
01:40:17,740 --> 01:40:21,500
The tip of his lightsaber then

4228
01:40:21,500 --> 01:40:24,280
becomes a transitory frame.

4229
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:28,120
Which I don't know how or where.

4230
01:40:28,580 --> 01:40:30,480
But we then switch over to this.

4231
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:31,680
This is all taking part in some

4232
01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:32,860
kind of Tron-like...

4233
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:36,020
cyber-dying environment.

4234
01:40:36,020 --> 01:40:41,320
...eventually into an office.

4235
01:40:41,440 --> 01:40:42,760
We're still in Tron world.

4236
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:44,450
But you have these ladies here

4237
01:40:44,450 --> 01:40:46,280
just working away diligently on

4238
01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:47,500
their machines.

4239
01:40:49,740 --> 01:40:51,020
In Tron land.

4240
01:40:51,020 --> 01:40:52,840
These are like the secretaries

4241
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:53,480
of Tron.

4242
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:54,900
That you'd have to...

4243
01:40:55,900 --> 01:40:56,460
First talk to when you were

4244
01:40:56,460 --> 01:40:58,400
getting involved with Tronworks

4245
01:40:58,400 --> 01:40:59,900
or Tron Incorporated.

4246
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:00,640
You talk to Tron...

4247
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:01,720
Helping people get the most

4248
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:02,520
from computers.

4249
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:06,340
What an animation.

4250
01:41:06,340 --> 01:41:08,120
Somebody...

4251
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:09,220
A human made that.

4252
01:41:09,540 --> 01:41:09,820
Do you know?

4253
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:11,180
And we're losing that day by

4254
01:41:11,180 --> 01:41:11,560
day.

4255
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:12,850
With the automation of

4256
01:41:12,850 --> 01:41:13,780
everything.

4257
01:41:14,660 --> 01:41:17,270
The fact that a human mind made

4258
01:41:17,270 --> 01:41:18,260
that.

4259
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:19,810
Is more astounding than the

4260
01:41:19,810 --> 01:41:20,960
product itself.

4261
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:21,740
For me anyway.

4262
01:41:21,740 --> 01:41:22,060
Personally.

4263
01:41:22,060 --> 01:41:22,660
Publishers of Byte.

4264
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:23,990
Byte's detailed technical

4265
01:41:23,990 --> 01:41:25,320
articles on new hardware,

4266
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:26,740
software and languages.

4267
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:28,230
Cover developments in computer

4268
01:41:28,230 --> 01:41:29,480
technology worldwide.

4269
01:41:29,480 --> 01:41:39,960
Welcome to the computer chronicles.

4270
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:40,480
I'm...

4271
01:41:40,480 --> 01:41:41,420
Liquid Stew.

4272
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:45,500
The lighting went up.

4273
01:41:46,780 --> 01:41:48,420
And then this happened.

4274
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:50,320
Stew's giving us the fucking

4275
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:51,120
side eye.

4276
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:53,940
It's a side hatch box 20.

4277
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:57,200
Rob Thomas featuring Santana.

4278
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:00,600
And he's smooth like the ocean.

4279
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:02,480
Just like the stew.

4280
01:42:03,620 --> 01:42:05,890
It's the tip from Grid 7 in 741

4281
01:42:05,890 --> 01:42:08,200
that I'm thanking you.

4282
01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:10,270
You've got that kind of motion

4283
01:42:10,270 --> 01:42:12,140
that could feel so stew.

4284
01:42:12,140 --> 01:42:13,800
Give me the stew.

4285
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:15,080
Make it real.

4286
01:42:15,260 --> 01:42:17,020
Or else forget about it.

4287
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:26,440
Welcome to the Computer Chronicle.

4288
01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:47,110
I'm Stuart Shiffey and this is

4289
01:42:47,110 --> 01:42:48,790
Gary Kildall. Gary I'm playing

4290
01:42:48,790 --> 01:42:50,400
a game called Interceptor here

4291
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:52,020
from Electronic Arts. It's a

4292
01:42:52,020 --> 01:42:54,000
new F-18 flight simulation. I

4293
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:55,680
hope we've not seen this. Fuck

4294
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:57,510
it. If we've seen it it's... I

4295
01:42:57,510 --> 01:42:59,100
just don't like retreading old

4296
01:42:59,100 --> 01:43:00,760
ground. But I actually do. I

4297
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:02,680
mean if it's good it's good.

4298
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:04,350
...game written for the Amiga

4299
01:43:04,350 --> 01:43:05,690
and as you can see the graphics

4300
01:43:05,690 --> 01:43:07,250
and the sound are spectacular.

4301
01:43:07,250 --> 01:43:08,530
The graphics and the sound are

4302
01:43:08,530 --> 01:43:09,880
spectacular. When you talk

4303
01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:11,120
about the Amiga one tends to

4304
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:12,620
talk about graphics and sound.

4305
01:43:12,620 --> 01:43:14,040
The Golden Gate Bridge.

4306
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:15,140
It's a pretty good general

4307
01:43:15,140 --> 01:43:16,440
purpose computer but it's kind

4308
01:43:16,440 --> 01:43:17,640
of the Rodney Dangerfield of

4309
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:19,090
personal computers. It doesn't

4310
01:43:19,090 --> 01:43:20,390
get very much respect among the

4311
01:43:20,390 --> 01:43:21,850
IBMs and the Macs of the world.

4312
01:43:21,850 --> 01:43:22,360
Why is that?

4313
01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:23,520
Well Stuart part of it is the

4314
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:25,150
Commodore heritage. The Commodore

4315
01:43:25,150 --> 01:43:26,430
brand name is associated with

4316
01:43:26,430 --> 01:43:27,700
low-end computers. When it

4317
01:43:27,700 --> 01:43:28,970
first came out it was pitted up

4318
01:43:28,970 --> 01:43:30,680
against the Atari 520ST.

4319
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:32,380
520ST was about $500 and this

4320
01:43:32,380 --> 01:43:33,830
came out about $1,500 so it

4321
01:43:33,830 --> 01:43:35,010
really didn't match up. And

4322
01:43:35,010 --> 01:43:36,360
moving up market is...

4323
01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:37,770
Kildall is so down to earth

4324
01:43:37,770 --> 01:43:39,470
just spitting facts. I'm not

4325
01:43:39,470 --> 01:43:41,020
sure but I think he didn't even

4326
01:43:41,020 --> 01:43:42,640
ask for any sort of payment for

4327
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,680
this. He just did it pro...

4328
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:46,990
Pro bono? I suppose? Out of the

4329
01:43:46,990 --> 01:43:48,920
kindness he wanted to dispatch

4330
01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:50,920
his knowledge to the computer

4331
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:51,640
world.

4332
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:52,540
It was difficult because of

4333
01:43:52,540 --> 01:43:53,530
course there's distribution

4334
01:43:53,530 --> 01:43:54,540
channels that they didn't have

4335
01:43:54,540 --> 01:43:55,800
established. There's a

4336
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:57,290
accumulated software base we

4337
01:43:57,290 --> 01:43:59,010
found with a Mac and the IBM PC.

4338
01:43:59,010 --> 01:43:59,710
And the Amiga just didn't have

4339
01:43:59,710 --> 01:43:59,960
that.

4340
01:43:59,960 --> 01:44:00,990
Now we're starting to see some

4341
01:44:00,990 --> 01:44:01,980
really good software being

4342
01:44:01,980 --> 01:44:02,950
written for the Amiga so that

4343
01:44:02,950 --> 01:44:03,960
situation may change.

4344
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:05,150
Okay Gary we're gonna take a

4345
01:44:05,150 --> 01:44:06,630
look at the new Amiga 500 and

4346
01:44:06,630 --> 01:44:08,250
the Amiga 2000 and we'll see

4347
01:44:08,250 --> 01:44:09,240
some of the new exciting

4348
01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:10,590
software that is being written

4349
01:44:10,590 --> 01:44:11,900
for the Amiga. We're going to

4350
01:44:11,900 --> 01:44:13,080
begin by going to Oakland,

4351
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:14,420
California and taking a look at

4352
01:44:14,420 --> 01:44:15,540
a man who uses an Amiga plus

4353
01:44:15,540 --> 01:44:17,280
Digiview and Deluxe...

4354
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:18,890
He was surely absolutely

4355
01:44:18,890 --> 01:44:20,830
fucking minted at the same time

4356
01:44:20,830 --> 01:44:23,200
anyway but still. You know. And

4357
01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:25,160
I think maybe what drove him to

4358
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:26,800
a bit of a dark place was the

4359
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:28,800
fact he missed out on a bigger

4360
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:30,430
chunk of cash as well with the

4361
01:44:30,430 --> 01:44:32,280
whole Microsoft deal.

4362
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:34,080
I've gone over it numerous

4363
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:35,280
times before.

4364
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:36,580
...aint to make a living as a

4365
01:44:36,580 --> 01:44:37,810
professional photographer and

4366
01:44:37,810 --> 01:44:38,400
designer.

4367
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:41,180
Larry Keenan is a San Francisco

4368
01:44:41,180 --> 01:44:42,950
photographer who has added the

4369
01:44:42,950 --> 01:44:44,860
Amiga to his collection of

4370
01:44:44,860 --> 01:44:47,680
photographic equipment. Working

4371
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:49,770
with a video camera, a digitizer

4372
01:44:49,770 --> 01:44:51,730
and a software package called

4373
01:44:51,730 --> 01:44:52,600
Digiview.

4374
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:54,770
Digiview and that's a little

4375
01:44:54,770 --> 01:44:57,480
ergonomic digibox he has there.

4376
01:44:57,480 --> 01:44:59,160
Larry can create new images

4377
01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:00,600
directly on screen.

4378
01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:02,370
Basically, it was a logical

4379
01:45:02,370 --> 01:45:03,900
extension of my business

4380
01:45:03,900 --> 01:45:05,590
because I work with a lot of

4381
01:45:05,590 --> 01:45:05,840
different

4382
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:08,570
elements in photos. The digitizing

4383
01:45:08,570 --> 01:45:10,190
process was like another brush.

4384
01:45:10,190 --> 01:45:11,640
It's just another technique.

4385
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:13,260
It allows me to take a

4386
01:45:13,260 --> 01:45:15,640
photograph that I've already

4387
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:17,940
had in a stock file and resize

4388
01:45:17,940 --> 01:45:18,420
it,

4389
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:20,690
take out elements. For instance,

4390
01:45:20,690 --> 01:45:22,600
you have a favorite photograph

4391
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:23,860
that you want to use

4392
01:45:23,860 --> 01:45:25,730
for something, and it's got

4393
01:45:25,730 --> 01:45:27,520
telephone lines all in it. It's

4394
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:29,950
got cyclone fences, lots of

4395
01:45:29,950 --> 01:45:30,340
problems.

4396
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:32,520
Lots of problems. I like the

4397
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:34,680
way his tash has been sculpted

4398
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:37,050
just to fucking fit snugly

4399
01:45:37,050 --> 01:45:38,020
along the top.

4400
01:45:38,020 --> 01:45:40,300
There's no like overhang at the

4401
01:45:40,300 --> 01:45:42,070
side. It's just like a snug

4402
01:45:42,070 --> 01:45:44,430
little toothbrush. Anymore, if

4403
01:45:44,430 --> 01:45:45,420
you took it in

4404
01:45:45,420 --> 01:45:47,810
any more, you'd be going that

4405
01:45:47,810 --> 01:45:50,160
kind of fucking Hitler tash,

4406
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:52,540
which is it's a damn shame that

4407
01:45:52,540 --> 01:45:53,240
that is

4408
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:56,450
fucking associated with Hitler.

4409
01:45:56,450 --> 01:45:58,480
Because it's an interesting

4410
01:45:58,480 --> 01:46:00,900
look, but if you were to do it

4411
01:46:00,900 --> 01:46:02,790
nowadays, then you would

4412
01:46:02,790 --> 01:46:04,600
definitely be shunned in

4413
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:07,010
society. I mean, people don't

4414
01:46:07,010 --> 01:46:07,980
really like

4415
01:46:07,980 --> 01:46:09,090
mustaches to begin with

4416
01:46:09,090 --> 01:46:10,470
nowadays anyway. Plenty of

4417
01:46:10,470 --> 01:46:11,900
times I have people say, would

4418
01:46:11,900 --> 01:46:12,720
you not fucking

4419
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:14,920
shave that out? Thank you very

4420
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:17,190
much there, Hanley man. I will

4421
01:46:17,190 --> 01:46:19,150
not allow anybody to steal my

4422
01:46:19,150 --> 01:46:20,100
work on the

4423
01:46:20,100 --> 01:46:22,410
Hitler tash virus. But I'd love

4424
01:46:22,410 --> 01:46:24,210
to give it a go, only I just

4425
01:46:24,210 --> 01:46:25,930
don't want to fucking get

4426
01:46:25,930 --> 01:46:27,980
thrown off at the...

4427
01:46:27,980 --> 01:46:30,230
Will my channel get suspended?

4428
01:46:30,230 --> 01:46:32,310
Or will people start to say, do

4429
01:46:32,310 --> 01:46:34,480
you know what? He's probably a

4430
01:46:34,480 --> 01:46:36,420
Nazi. I'm not gonna watch that

4431
01:46:36,420 --> 01:46:37,780
guy anymore. And I fucking

4432
01:46:37,780 --> 01:46:39,320
regret watching him before. I

4433
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:40,830
definitely regret sending him a

4434
01:46:40,830 --> 01:46:43,760
couple of quid. I'm not sure.

4435
01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:47,510
we can do this, but that's as

4436
01:46:47,510 --> 01:46:48,460
far as it goes.

4437
01:46:49,660 --> 01:46:50,140
Anymore.

4438
01:46:50,300 --> 01:46:51,720
And it's fucking dodgy.

4439
01:46:52,020 --> 01:46:53,120
Thank you very much there,

4440
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:54,020
Matthew Fitz.

4441
01:46:55,100 --> 01:46:55,810
Have you ever seen Pirates of

4442
01:46:55,810 --> 01:46:57,060
Silicon Valley?

4443
01:46:57,600 --> 01:46:58,300
I haven't.

4444
01:46:58,440 --> 01:46:59,520
Has it got Woz?

4445
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:00,700
Is the Wozinator in it?

4446
01:47:00,820 --> 01:47:02,780
Wozniak himself.

4447
01:47:03,340 --> 01:47:04,560
I think he's in that.

4448
01:47:04,820 --> 01:47:05,720
I haven't seen it, but I'd like

4449
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:06,320
to watch it.

4450
01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:08,780
The data is in the holes.

4451
01:47:08,780 --> 01:47:10,420
It's a computer concept.

4452
01:47:10,440 --> 01:47:11,950
You can go in and you can digitize

4453
01:47:11,950 --> 01:47:12,960
these areas out.

4454
01:47:13,820 --> 01:47:15,590
Larry is well known for his ad

4455
01:47:15,590 --> 01:47:17,200
work and magazine covers.

4456
01:47:17,740 --> 01:47:18,540
And increasingly for his

4457
01:47:18,540 --> 01:47:20,140
artwork decorating software

4458
01:47:20,140 --> 01:47:20,880
packages.

4459
01:47:21,060 --> 01:47:22,290
Bring it, that's an interesting

4460
01:47:22,290 --> 01:47:22,680
idea.

4461
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:25,310
Bring it in millimeter by

4462
01:47:25,310 --> 01:47:26,760
millimeter every week.

4463
01:47:27,100 --> 01:47:29,260
So every week, just go even,

4464
01:47:29,260 --> 01:47:32,280
you know, so nobody notices it.

4465
01:47:32,660 --> 01:47:34,100
And it's just, that's him.

4466
01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:34,920
That's his thing.

4467
01:47:35,700 --> 01:47:36,480
He's had that.

4468
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:37,400
He's not a Nazi.

4469
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:38,880
You're fucking for real.

4470
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:42,090
The computer gives him a

4471
01:47:42,090 --> 01:47:43,680
definite advantage in dealing

4472
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:45,200
with the deadlines imposed by

4473
01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:46,280
commercial work.

4474
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:47,440
And it lets him be more

4475
01:47:47,440 --> 01:47:48,360
independent.

4476
01:47:48,740 --> 01:47:50,590
That wasn't a confident insertion

4477
01:47:50,590 --> 01:47:52,020
of the floppy disk.

4478
01:47:52,460 --> 01:47:53,340
As he went to grab it there, I

4479
01:47:53,340 --> 01:47:54,500
saw his hand shaking.

4480
01:47:54,660 --> 01:47:55,730
Maybe the director said, you

4481
01:47:55,730 --> 01:47:56,460
know, action.

4482
01:47:56,580 --> 01:47:58,180
And then he got confused.

4483
01:47:58,400 --> 01:47:58,840
He got scared.

4484
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:00,000
Creating software packages.

4485
01:48:00,500 --> 01:48:01,280
The computer gives him a

4486
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:03,060
definite advantage in dealing

4487
01:48:03,060 --> 01:48:04,610
with the deadlines imposed by

4488
01:48:04,610 --> 01:48:05,800
commercial work.

4489
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:07,020
And it lets him be more

4490
01:48:07,020 --> 01:48:07,740
independent.

4491
01:48:07,740 --> 01:48:08,580
Thank you very much there.

4492
01:48:08,580 --> 01:48:09,840
This is the main difference.

4493
01:48:10,940 --> 01:48:11,940
Liam Neeson.

4494
01:48:11,980 --> 01:48:12,720
Thank you very much.

4495
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:14,510
In this technology, it allows

4496
01:48:14,510 --> 01:48:17,100
artists, photographers, illustrators,

4497
01:48:17,100 --> 01:48:18,840
anyone in the art field to take

4498
01:48:18,840 --> 01:48:20,840
an image, digitize it on their

4499
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:22,620
own terms and present it.

4500
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:24,980
Rather than being a victim of a

4501
01:48:24,980 --> 01:48:27,200
technician basically doing it.

4502
01:48:27,340 --> 01:48:27,580
Wow.

4503
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:28,600
And you have no input.

4504
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:29,900
Look at that tail.

4505
01:48:30,260 --> 01:48:30,520
None.

4506
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:32,600
Making the switch from a sharp

4507
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:34,610
lens to a fuzzy monitor is not

4508
01:48:34,610 --> 01:48:36,460
without its problems.

4509
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:37,920
Old fuzzy Dunlop.

4510
01:48:38,580 --> 01:48:40,070
Look at the painstaking, you

4511
01:48:40,070 --> 01:48:42,080
know, little bits and pieces

4512
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:44,020
that had to be done in order to

4513
01:48:44,020 --> 01:48:46,200
get this sort of work done.

4514
01:48:46,940 --> 01:48:48,120
It'll all be a thing of a past.

4515
01:48:48,380 --> 01:48:49,300
And as soon as people will just

4516
01:48:49,300 --> 01:48:50,600
be watching documentaries like

4517
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:51,840
this or people will be watching

4518
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:53,070
videos going, I can't believe

4519
01:48:53,070 --> 01:48:54,340
that they used to do this.

4520
01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:56,220
It's insane to me.

4521
01:48:56,820 --> 01:48:57,540
Larry regrets the low

4522
01:48:57,540 --> 01:48:59,510
resolution of a computer screen

4523
01:48:59,510 --> 01:49:01,700
compared to photographic film.

4524
01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:03,380
And he finds it hard to keep up

4525
01:49:03,380 --> 01:49:05,070
with constant changes in the

4526
01:49:05,070 --> 01:49:06,040
technology.

4527
01:49:06,660 --> 01:49:07,880
But he's optimistic.

4528
01:49:08,100 --> 01:49:09,200
The trick is to learn the

4529
01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:10,720
process because that won't

4530
01:49:10,720 --> 01:49:11,360
change.

4531
01:49:11,500 --> 01:49:12,600
Just the quality will change in

4532
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:13,240
the future.

4533
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:14,860
And that's the important part.

4534
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:16,800
Good stuff.

4535
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:17,820
Thanks very much.

4536
01:49:19,020 --> 01:49:19,680
Look at that.

4537
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:21,230
He's really going for it on

4538
01:49:21,230 --> 01:49:22,120
that horse.

4539
01:49:24,760 --> 01:49:26,400
The first is to Johnny Hay.

4540
01:49:26,500 --> 01:49:27,700
He has a chip on his shoulder.

4541
01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:29,060
He's done about chips.

4542
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:32,140
Thank you very much there.

4543
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:33,320
More tash.

4544
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:34,520
More cash.

4545
01:49:34,660 --> 01:49:36,180
Growing even bigger tash.

4546
01:49:36,440 --> 01:49:36,740
You see.

4547
01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:39,340
I don't know if it's possible,

4548
01:49:39,340 --> 01:49:40,360
you know.

4549
01:49:40,460 --> 01:49:42,800
And it actually gets too wiry

4550
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:43,880
and fuzzy.

4551
01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:45,380
And it's just not great.

4552
01:49:45,480 --> 01:49:46,580
You're eating food and you're

4553
01:49:46,580 --> 01:49:47,940
having to fucking wipe it a lot.

4554
01:49:48,480 --> 01:49:50,700
It's basically a health hazard.

4555
01:49:52,140 --> 01:49:53,930
Look at this guy on horseback

4556
01:49:53,930 --> 01:49:54,900
here.

4557
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:56,440
Really going for it.

4558
01:49:56,440 --> 01:50:01,040
And his head is really stable.

4559
01:50:01,620 --> 01:50:03,050
considering the amount of force

4560
01:50:03,050 --> 01:50:04,300
that he's having to deal with

4561
01:50:04,300 --> 01:50:05,440
on back of that horse.

4562
01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:08,690
We've got a round table

4563
01:50:08,690 --> 01:50:12,660
discussion on a triangular

4564
01:50:12,660 --> 01:50:14,040
table.

4565
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:17,540
Joining us in the studio now is

4566
01:50:17,540 --> 01:50:18,660
Heidi Turnipseed.

4567
01:50:18,660 --> 01:50:18,960
Heidi.

4568
01:50:19,420 --> 01:50:19,820
Heidi.

4569
01:50:19,820 --> 01:50:20,740
Heidi.

4570
01:50:21,580 --> 01:50:22,620
Turnipseed.

4571
01:50:26,620 --> 01:50:26,390
Joining us in the studio now is

4572
01:50:26,390 --> 01:50:29,160
Heidi Turnipseed.

4573
01:50:29,420 --> 01:50:29,960
Ha ha!

4574
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:34,250
Joining us in the studio now is

4575
01:50:34,250 --> 01:50:35,300
Heidi Turnipseed.

4576
01:50:35,300 --> 01:50:36,550
Heidi is an animator with Five

4577
01:50:36,550 --> 01:50:37,660
Rings Company in Southern

4578
01:50:37,660 --> 01:50:38,320
California.

4579
01:50:38,460 --> 01:50:39,720
Next to Heidi is Adams Douglas,

4580
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:41,040
director of product development

4581
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:41,970
with Micro Illusions in

4582
01:50:41,970 --> 01:50:43,000
Southern California.

4583
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:44,410
I have not fucking seen her

4584
01:50:44,410 --> 01:50:45,020
before.

4585
01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:46,020
Are you on about someone there

4586
01:50:46,020 --> 01:50:47,080
saying I've seen her before?

4587
01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:49,640
As if you could fucking forget.

4588
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:52,840
Heidi Turnipseed.

4589
01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:55,520
Heidi Turnipseed.

4590
01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:58,700
And this guy, Biff.

4591
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:03,780
Fucking Beefcake and Turnipseed.

4592
01:51:03,780 --> 01:51:06,080
The classic double act.

4593
01:51:06,860 --> 01:51:07,940
Give me a break.

4594
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:09,260
If I've seen this, that's

4595
01:51:09,260 --> 01:51:10,900
disgusting that I've forgotten

4596
01:51:10,900 --> 01:51:11,720
about that.

4597
01:51:13,300 --> 01:51:14,860
Heidi Cabbage Patch.

4598
01:51:16,440 --> 01:51:17,120
Joining us in the studio now is

4599
01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:18,800
Heidi Turnipseed.

4600
01:51:18,860 --> 01:51:20,040
Heidi is an animator with Five

4601
01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:21,130
Rings Company in Southern

4602
01:51:21,130 --> 01:51:21,800
California.

4603
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:23,030
Next to Heidi is Adams Douglas,

4604
01:51:23,030 --> 01:51:23,920
director of...

4605
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:25,620
Biff Coco Bean.

4606
01:51:27,060 --> 01:51:27,580
...product development with

4607
01:51:27,580 --> 01:51:29,090
Micro Illusions in Southern

4608
01:51:29,090 --> 01:51:29,960
California.

4609
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:30,180
Gary?

4610
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:31,660
Micro Illusions.

4611
01:51:32,540 --> 01:51:33,180
The names.

4612
01:51:33,180 --> 01:51:34,560
The products.

4613
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:35,480
Heidi, you're now using

4614
01:51:35,480 --> 01:51:36,470
computers to help you with

4615
01:51:36,470 --> 01:51:37,940
classical animation techniques.

4616
01:51:37,940 --> 01:51:40,860
I love Gary's non-presentorial

4617
01:51:40,860 --> 01:51:41,680
style.

4618
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:42,200
It's just like,

4619
01:51:42,760 --> 01:51:44,050
Heidi, you're having trouble

4620
01:51:44,050 --> 01:51:45,620
and you're doing this.

4621
01:51:45,900 --> 01:51:47,500
What kind of stuff do you have?

4622
01:51:48,060 --> 01:51:49,520
Just a nice guy, like, you know?

4623
01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:50,700
Stew's the animal.

4624
01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:52,300
Southern California.

4625
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:52,560
Gary?

4626
01:51:52,900 --> 01:51:53,550
Heidi, you're now using

4627
01:51:53,550 --> 01:51:54,590
computers to help you with

4628
01:51:54,590 --> 01:51:56,160
classical animation techniques.

4629
01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:57,540
Why did you choose an Amiga

4630
01:51:57,540 --> 01:51:58,800
over an IBM PC or Mac?

4631
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:00,470
Well, it was advertised as

4632
01:52:00,470 --> 01:52:01,860
having full animation

4633
01:52:01,860 --> 01:52:02,880
capability.

4634
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:05,840
Wow. Unbelievable.

4635
01:52:10,160 --> 01:52:11,920
Hold that thought. Just need to

4636
01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:13,460
go with the jacks. Hold that

4637
01:52:13,460 --> 01:52:13,940
thought.

4638
01:52:13,940 --> 01:52:27,260
Thank you.

4639
01:52:27,260 --> 01:52:57,240
Thank you.

4640
01:52:57,240 --> 01:53:27,220
Thank you.

4641
01:53:27,220 --> 01:53:30,970
Thank you very much there, Mortash,

4642
01:53:30,970 --> 01:53:33,860
Liam Neeson, Match Fates, and

4643
01:53:33,860 --> 01:53:34,800
Chaz.

4644
01:53:36,220 --> 01:53:44,060
Oh, Chaz. Chaz. Oh, Chaz. Chazzy,

4645
01:53:44,060 --> 01:53:50,460
baby. Thank you so much, Chazmandu.

4646
01:53:50,460 --> 01:53:55,390
I hope you're okay. Chaz, how

4647
01:53:55,390 --> 01:54:00,220
are you? Chaz.

4648
01:54:00,220 --> 01:54:06,880
Go back now, please.

4649
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:11,140
That's not what we're doing. It's

4650
01:54:11,140 --> 01:54:12,940
a great launch though. Let's do

4651
01:54:12,940 --> 01:54:14,880
it again. Let's have it again.

4652
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:24,380
Come on! 98 is about to launch!

4653
01:54:24,380 --> 01:54:48,340
Just seen.

4654
01:54:48,340 --> 01:54:58,340
Turnip seed.

4655
01:54:58,340 --> 01:55:00,120
The technology and the four

4656
01:55:00,120 --> 01:55:02,980
channel sound, the 4096 colors,

4657
01:55:02,980 --> 01:55:05,070
and the very reasonable price

4658
01:55:05,070 --> 01:55:06,340
were all factors.

4659
01:55:06,340 --> 01:55:08,340
We love it.

4660
01:55:08,340 --> 01:55:09,340
Absolutely.

4661
01:55:09,340 --> 01:55:11,080
Now, you have a program here,

4662
01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:12,810
Photon, I guess, that you're

4663
01:55:12,810 --> 01:55:14,640
using for your animation. Can

4664
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:16,340
you show us how it works?

4665
01:55:16,340 --> 01:55:18,530
Here's an animation pencil test

4666
01:55:18,530 --> 01:55:20,300
that I shot of my ten drawing

4667
01:55:20,300 --> 01:55:22,340
cycle of a galloping horse.

4668
01:55:22,340 --> 01:55:24,430
The horse animation come to

4669
01:55:24,430 --> 01:55:25,340
life right now.

4670
01:55:25,340 --> 01:55:26,900
And I'm able to test the

4671
01:55:26,900 --> 01:55:28,970
animation at home, alter the

4672
01:55:28,970 --> 01:55:31,650
drawings, re-digitize them, and

4673
01:55:31,650 --> 01:55:33,340
save them back to disk.

4674
01:55:33,340 --> 01:55:34,050
Thank you very much, Black

4675
01:55:34,050 --> 01:55:34,340
White.

4676
01:55:34,340 --> 01:55:36,340
Mod gone.

4677
01:55:36,340 --> 01:55:37,400
The drawings are not drawn on

4678
01:55:37,400 --> 01:55:38,510
the machine itself, they're

4679
01:55:38,510 --> 01:55:39,340
done externally.

4680
01:55:39,340 --> 01:55:40,340
That's right.

4681
01:55:40,340 --> 01:55:41,780
And what was your next step

4682
01:55:41,780 --> 01:55:42,340
after?

4683
01:55:42,340 --> 01:55:45,340
Barney's lad, seven to four.

4684
01:55:45,340 --> 01:55:46,340
Do this.

4685
01:55:46,340 --> 01:55:47,960
At this point, I animated a

4686
01:55:47,960 --> 01:55:49,600
rider on a separate level,

4687
01:55:49,600 --> 01:55:51,560
digitized that, mapped it onto

4688
01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:53,340
the galloping horse frames,

4689
01:55:53,340 --> 01:55:55,260
save them separately so that I

4690
01:55:55,260 --> 01:55:56,980
can always refer to a horse

4691
01:55:56,980 --> 01:55:58,340
alone if I want to.

4692
01:55:58,340 --> 01:55:58,950
And then I called them up in a

4693
01:55:58,950 --> 01:55:59,340
paint code.

4694
01:55:59,340 --> 01:56:01,540
Chevo says AI can do a better

4695
01:56:01,540 --> 01:56:02,340
horse.

4696
01:56:02,340 --> 01:56:03,340
And indeed it can.

4697
01:56:03,340 --> 01:56:04,340
And it will be in the future.

4698
01:56:04,340 --> 01:56:05,760
People will just be like, it's

4699
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:07,340
mad, isn't it?

4700
01:56:07,340 --> 01:56:08,590
The people used to have a job

4701
01:56:08,590 --> 01:56:09,340
making this.

4702
01:56:09,340 --> 01:56:11,500
In the same way maybe that, you

4703
01:56:11,500 --> 01:56:13,790
know, mass production got rid

4704
01:56:13,790 --> 01:56:15,690
of all the artisanal crafters

4705
01:56:15,690 --> 01:56:17,340
and stuff like that.

4706
01:56:17,340 --> 01:56:18,780
But this, this is going to be

4707
01:56:18,780 --> 01:56:20,340
on an unprecedented scale.

4708
01:56:20,340 --> 01:56:21,570
To a point where no one will

4709
01:56:21,570 --> 01:56:22,770
really care what they're

4710
01:56:22,770 --> 01:56:24,340
fucking watching or seeing.

4711
01:56:24,340 --> 01:56:27,150
They won't really care that

4712
01:56:27,150 --> 01:56:29,360
there isn't a heart or soul

4713
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:32,340
behind the production of it.

4714
01:56:32,340 --> 01:56:34,440
Because it's just going to

4715
01:56:34,440 --> 01:56:35,490
override the fact that it's

4716
01:56:35,490 --> 01:56:37,340
getting out there and quick.

4717
01:56:37,340 --> 01:56:39,340
Do you know?

4718
01:56:39,340 --> 01:56:40,340
Is the main thing.

4719
01:56:41,340 --> 01:56:42,420
No one's going to ask any

4720
01:56:42,420 --> 01:56:44,340
questions about it.

4721
01:56:44,340 --> 01:56:46,340
If you think about it.

4722
01:56:47,340 --> 01:56:48,600
There's a lot more of that to

4723
01:56:48,600 --> 01:56:49,340
come.

4724
01:56:49,340 --> 01:56:51,340
Could you pull that up for us?

4725
01:56:51,340 --> 01:56:52,260
And while you're loading that

4726
01:56:52,260 --> 01:56:53,210
version, Adam, let me ask you

4727
01:56:53,210 --> 01:56:54,340
about the software she's using.

4728
01:56:54,340 --> 01:56:55,340
What's it called?

4729
01:56:55,340 --> 01:56:57,150
New AI generated episodes of

4730
01:56:57,150 --> 01:56:58,340
the Chronicles.

4731
01:56:58,340 --> 01:56:59,340
Fuck.

4732
01:56:59,340 --> 01:57:00,340
Do you know what?

4733
01:57:00,340 --> 01:57:03,020
I just, I, I, I'm actually

4734
01:57:03,020 --> 01:57:04,340
thinking.

4735
01:57:04,340 --> 01:57:05,340
I'd probably watch it.

4736
01:57:05,340 --> 01:57:06,340
Do you know?

4737
01:57:06,340 --> 01:57:08,290
The amount of Chronicles that I've

4738
01:57:08,290 --> 01:57:09,340
watched and love.

4739
01:57:10,340 --> 01:57:11,310
If it happened, I'd fucking

4740
01:57:11,310 --> 01:57:12,340
watch them.

4741
01:57:12,340 --> 01:57:14,340
Even though they'd have no soul.

4742
01:57:15,340 --> 01:57:17,340
They would have no soul.

4743
01:57:18,340 --> 01:57:19,340
It's not right really, is it?

4744
01:57:20,340 --> 01:57:21,340
How does it work?

4745
01:57:21,340 --> 01:57:21,340
Okay.

4746
01:57:21,340 --> 01:57:22,720
This is the cell animated

4747
01:57:22,720 --> 01:57:23,340
module.

4748
01:57:23,340 --> 01:57:24,670
People won't care about it in

4749
01:57:24,670 --> 01:57:25,340
the future.

4750
01:57:25,340 --> 01:57:26,570
We care about it because we're

4751
01:57:26,570 --> 01:57:27,760
experiencing it and living

4752
01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:28,340
through it.

4753
01:57:28,340 --> 01:57:29,670
But in the future people just

4754
01:57:29,670 --> 01:57:30,340
won't care.

4755
01:57:30,340 --> 01:57:32,340
People will be like.

4756
01:57:32,340 --> 01:57:34,340
So what man?

4757
01:57:34,340 --> 01:57:35,340
Do you know?

4758
01:57:36,340 --> 01:57:37,340
We're close to it.

4759
01:57:37,340 --> 01:57:38,340
It's close to home.

4760
01:57:38,340 --> 01:57:39,340
To us.

4761
01:57:40,340 --> 01:57:41,340
And what about Biff here?

4762
01:57:42,340 --> 01:57:43,340
Biff.

4763
01:57:43,340 --> 01:57:44,340
Butterscotch.

4764
01:57:44,340 --> 01:57:45,340
Coco Bean the third.

4765
01:57:46,340 --> 01:57:47,370
I'm going to ask you about the

4766
01:57:47,370 --> 01:57:48,340
software she's using.

4767
01:57:48,340 --> 01:57:49,340
A real Garth Mering gauge.

4768
01:57:49,340 --> 01:57:50,780
What's it called and how does

4769
01:57:50,780 --> 01:57:51,340
it work?

4770
01:57:51,340 --> 01:57:52,340
Okay.

4771
01:57:52,340 --> 01:57:53,340
This is the.

4772
01:57:53,340 --> 01:57:54,340
A real Garth Meringatang.

4773
01:57:55,340 --> 01:57:56,340
Cell animator module of.

4774
01:57:57,340 --> 01:57:59,340
An accelerator module.

4775
01:58:00,340 --> 01:58:01,340
Software she's using.

4776
01:58:01,340 --> 01:58:02,050
What's it called and how does

4777
01:58:02,050 --> 01:58:02,340
it work?

4778
01:58:02,340 --> 01:58:03,340
Okay.

4779
01:58:03,340 --> 01:58:04,700
This is the cell animator

4780
01:58:04,700 --> 01:58:06,340
module of our photon video.

4781
01:58:06,340 --> 01:58:07,340
Line of products.

4782
01:58:07,340 --> 01:58:09,340
And they're a set of modules

4783
01:58:09,340 --> 01:58:11,440
you can use for various video

4784
01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:13,720
applications either at home or

4785
01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:15,340
professionally.

4786
01:58:16,340 --> 01:58:17,330
This particular one is a tool

4787
01:58:17,330 --> 01:58:19,480
for animators to use to arrange

4788
01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:21,600
frames, play them back in any

4789
01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:22,340
order.

4790
01:58:23,340 --> 01:58:24,590
Reload them, edit them and it

4791
01:58:24,590 --> 01:58:25,540
does support all of the

4792
01:58:25,540 --> 01:58:26,890
graphics modes available on the

4793
01:58:26,890 --> 01:58:27,340
Amiga.

4794
01:58:28,340 --> 01:58:29,100
With any type of memory you

4795
01:58:29,100 --> 01:58:31,100
might have it'll dynamically

4796
01:58:31,100 --> 01:58:32,340
adjust to that.

4797
01:58:32,340 --> 01:58:34,280
What's his little pendant there

4798
01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:35,340
that he's got?

4799
01:58:36,340 --> 01:58:37,600
Like a little bird or something

4800
01:58:37,600 --> 01:58:38,340
with a.

4801
01:58:40,340 --> 01:58:42,340
Like a kind of ruby as a chest.

4802
01:58:43,340 --> 01:58:44,340
A bit of blue crystal.

4803
01:58:46,340 --> 01:58:47,340
Billy Crystal.

4804
01:58:48,340 --> 01:58:49,340
There's a.

4805
01:58:49,340 --> 01:58:50,340
Old Biffy Clyro himself.

4806
01:58:50,340 --> 01:58:51,300
Usually a graphics picture they

4807
01:58:51,300 --> 01:58:52,340
take an awful lot of stories so.

4808
01:58:52,340 --> 01:58:54,340
Balo tie someone says.

4809
01:58:54,340 --> 01:58:55,340
I don't know what a Balo tie is.

4810
01:58:55,340 --> 01:58:56,340
It's a turkey Balo.

4811
01:58:57,340 --> 01:58:58,340
People are.

4812
01:58:59,340 --> 01:58:59,630
People are in on this Balo

4813
01:58:59,630 --> 01:59:00,340
business.

4814
01:59:01,340 --> 01:59:02,160
How much memory does it require

4815
01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:03,340
to do animation?

4816
01:59:04,340 --> 01:59:06,130
Usually you can fit on an 8 megabyte

4817
01:59:06,130 --> 01:59:08,020
Amiga which is what we got

4818
01:59:08,020 --> 01:59:09,340
sitting here.

4819
01:59:10,340 --> 01:59:10,790
Depending on the graphics mode

4820
01:59:10,790 --> 01:59:12,340
if you're in pencil test mode.

4821
01:59:13,340 --> 01:59:13,340
Bolo.

4822
01:59:13,340 --> 01:59:14,340
It's pronounced Bolo.

4823
01:59:14,340 --> 01:59:15,340
You can fit well over a

4824
01:59:15,340 --> 01:59:16,340
thousand frames.

4825
01:59:17,340 --> 01:59:18,340
And the.

4826
01:59:19,340 --> 01:59:20,320
Longer more complex colored

4827
01:59:20,320 --> 01:59:21,340
sequences.

4828
01:59:21,340 --> 01:59:22,340
You can go down.

4829
01:59:22,340 --> 01:59:23,790
It goes down to like a hundred

4830
01:59:23,790 --> 01:59:24,340
frames.

4831
01:59:24,340 --> 01:59:25,340
But.

4832
01:59:25,340 --> 01:59:26,920
You have great versatility in

4833
01:59:26,920 --> 01:59:28,250
the way you can play those

4834
01:59:28,250 --> 01:59:29,340
frames back out.

4835
01:59:29,340 --> 01:59:30,460
So it's not as much of a

4836
01:59:30,460 --> 01:59:31,340
constraint.

4837
01:59:31,340 --> 01:59:32,700
As it would be if you were only

4838
01:59:32,700 --> 01:59:34,340
playing it back on the screen.

4839
01:59:35,340 --> 01:59:35,650
Heidi how are we doing with the

4840
01:59:35,650 --> 01:59:36,910
next generation of the horse

4841
01:59:36,910 --> 01:59:37,340
here?

4842
01:59:37,340 --> 01:59:39,090
Someone has just besmudged Stu

4843
01:59:39,090 --> 01:59:40,340
there in the chat.

4844
01:59:40,340 --> 01:59:41,880
And said that he looks like

4845
01:59:41,880 --> 01:59:43,340
Benjamin Netanyahu.

4846
01:59:44,340 --> 01:59:45,340
I don't think so buddy.

4847
01:59:45,340 --> 01:59:45,340
That's not right.

4848
01:59:45,340 --> 01:59:45,340
We'll wait until we get another

4849
01:59:45,340 --> 01:59:45,340
frame.

4850
01:59:45,340 --> 01:59:46,020
We're only playing it back on

4851
01:59:46,020 --> 01:59:46,340
the screen.

4852
01:59:46,340 --> 01:59:46,800
Maybe back in the 80s I think

4853
01:59:46,800 --> 01:59:47,340
Netanyahu had hair like that.

4854
01:59:47,340 --> 01:59:47,770
How are you doing with the next

4855
01:59:47,770 --> 01:59:48,340
generation of the horse here?

4856
01:59:48,340 --> 01:59:49,340
More coverage.

4857
01:59:49,340 --> 01:59:50,060
Well we've loaded up the last

4858
01:59:50,060 --> 01:59:50,340
frame.

4859
01:59:50,340 --> 01:59:50,340
And.

4860
01:59:50,340 --> 01:59:51,340
I'm going to call it up here.

4861
01:59:51,340 --> 01:59:52,340
And here we have the full.

4862
01:59:52,340 --> 01:59:52,340
Netanyahu.

4863
01:59:52,340 --> 01:59:53,340
Netanyahu.

4864
01:59:53,340 --> 01:59:53,340
Says Darren.

4865
01:59:53,340 --> 01:59:54,020
The color version of the

4866
01:59:54,020 --> 01:59:54,340
previous scene.

4867
01:59:54,340 --> 01:59:54,930
Now how do you do the coloring

4868
01:59:54,930 --> 01:59:55,340
process here?

4869
01:59:55,340 --> 01:59:56,070
Do you color each individual

4870
01:59:56,070 --> 01:59:56,340
frame?

4871
01:59:56,340 --> 01:59:57,340
Yes I do.

4872
01:59:57,340 --> 01:59:58,340
Okay.

4873
01:59:58,340 --> 01:59:59,340
Okay.

4874
01:59:59,340 --> 01:59:59,970
And then we're going to do the

4875
01:59:59,970 --> 02:00:00,340
same thing.

4876
02:00:00,340 --> 02:00:00,970
And then we're going to do the

4877
02:00:00,970 --> 02:00:01,340
same thing.

4878
02:00:01,340 --> 02:00:01,970
And then we're going to do the

4879
02:00:01,970 --> 02:00:02,340
same thing.

4880
02:00:02,340 --> 02:00:03,010
And then we're going to do the

4881
02:00:03,010 --> 02:00:03,340
same thing.

4882
02:00:03,340 --> 02:00:03,970
And then we're going to do the

4883
02:00:03,970 --> 02:00:04,340
same thing.

4884
02:00:04,340 --> 02:00:04,970
And then we're going to do the

4885
02:00:04,970 --> 02:00:05,340
same thing.

4886
02:00:05,340 --> 02:00:05,980
And then we're going to do the

4887
02:00:05,980 --> 02:00:06,340
same thing.

4888
02:00:06,340 --> 02:00:06,970
And then we're going to do the

4889
02:00:06,970 --> 02:00:07,340
same thing.

4890
02:00:07,340 --> 02:00:07,970
And then we're going to do the

4891
02:00:07,970 --> 02:00:08,340
same thing.

4892
02:00:08,340 --> 02:00:08,970
And then we're going to do the

4893
02:00:08,970 --> 02:00:09,340
same thing.

4894
02:00:09,340 --> 02:00:09,970
And then we're going to do the

4895
02:00:09,970 --> 02:00:10,340
same thing.

4896
02:00:10,340 --> 02:00:10,970
And then we're going to do the

4897
02:00:10,970 --> 02:00:11,340
same thing.

4898
02:00:11,340 --> 02:00:12,080
And then we're going to do the

4899
02:00:12,080 --> 02:00:12,340
same thing.

4900
02:00:12,340 --> 02:00:13,080
And then we're going to do the

4901
02:00:13,080 --> 02:00:13,340
same thing.

4902
02:00:13,340 --> 02:00:13,970
And then we're going to do the

4903
02:00:13,970 --> 02:00:14,340
same thing.

4904
02:00:14,340 --> 02:00:14,970
And then we're going to do the

4905
02:00:14,970 --> 02:00:15,340
same thing.

4906
02:00:15,340 --> 02:00:15,970
And then we're going to do the

4907
02:00:15,970 --> 02:00:16,340
same thing.

4908
02:00:16,340 --> 02:00:16,970
And then we're going to do the

4909
02:00:16,970 --> 02:00:17,340
same thing.

4910
02:00:17,340 --> 02:00:17,970
And then we're going to do the

4911
02:00:17,970 --> 02:00:18,340
same thing.

4912
02:00:18,340 --> 02:00:18,970
And then we're going to do the

4913
02:00:18,970 --> 02:00:19,340
same thing.

4914
02:00:19,340 --> 02:00:19,970
And then we're going to do the

4915
02:00:19,970 --> 02:00:20,340
same thing.

4916
02:00:20,340 --> 02:00:20,970
And then we're going to do the

4917
02:00:20,970 --> 02:00:21,340
same thing.

4918
02:00:21,340 --> 02:00:21,960
And then we're going to do the

4919
02:00:21,960 --> 02:00:22,340
same thing.

4920
02:00:22,340 --> 02:00:22,960
And then we're going to do the

4921
02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:23,340
same thing.

4922
02:00:23,340 --> 02:00:23,970
And then we're going to do the

4923
02:00:23,970 --> 02:00:24,340
same thing.

4924
02:00:24,340 --> 02:00:25,080
And then we're going to do the

4925
02:00:25,080 --> 02:00:25,340
same thing.

4926
02:00:25,340 --> 02:00:25,970
And then we're going to do the

4927
02:00:25,970 --> 02:00:26,340
same thing.

4928
02:00:26,340 --> 02:00:26,970
And then we're going to do the

4929
02:00:26,970 --> 02:00:27,340
same thing.

4930
02:00:27,340 --> 02:00:28,020
We're going to do the same

4931
02:00:28,020 --> 02:00:28,340
thing.

4932
02:00:28,340 --> 02:00:28,970
And then we're going to do the

4933
02:00:28,970 --> 02:00:29,340
same thing.

4934
02:00:29,340 --> 02:00:29,970
And then we're going to do the

4935
02:00:29,970 --> 02:00:30,340
same thing.

4936
02:00:30,340 --> 02:00:30,980
And then we're going to do the

4937
02:00:30,980 --> 02:00:31,340
same thing.

4938
02:00:31,340 --> 02:00:31,970
And then we're going to do the

4939
02:00:31,970 --> 02:00:32,340
same thing.

4940
02:00:32,340 --> 02:00:32,970
And then we're going to do the

4941
02:00:32,970 --> 02:00:33,340
same thing.

4942
02:00:33,340 --> 02:00:33,970
And then we're going to do the

4943
02:00:33,970 --> 02:00:34,340
same thing.

4944
02:00:34,340 --> 02:00:34,970
And then we're going to do the

4945
02:00:34,970 --> 02:00:35,340
same thing.

4946
02:00:35,340 --> 02:00:35,970
And then we're going to do the

4947
02:00:35,970 --> 02:00:36,340
same thing.

4948
02:00:36,340 --> 02:00:36,970
And then we're going to do the

4949
02:00:36,970 --> 02:00:37,340
same thing.

4950
02:00:37,340 --> 02:00:37,970
And then we're going to do the

4951
02:00:37,970 --> 02:00:38,340
same thing.

4952
02:00:38,340 --> 02:00:38,980
And then we're going to do the

4953
02:00:38,980 --> 02:00:39,340
same thing.

4954
02:00:39,340 --> 02:00:40,000
And then we're going to do the

4955
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:40,340
same thing.

4956
02:00:40,340 --> 02:00:40,970
And then we're going to do the

4957
02:00:40,970 --> 02:00:41,340
same thing.

4958
02:00:41,340 --> 02:00:41,970
And then we're going to do the

4959
02:00:41,970 --> 02:00:42,340
same thing.

4960
02:00:42,340 --> 02:00:42,970
And then we're going to do the

4961
02:00:42,970 --> 02:00:43,340
same thing.

4962
02:00:43,340 --> 02:00:43,970
And then we're going to do the

4963
02:00:43,970 --> 02:00:44,340
same thing.

4964
02:00:44,340 --> 02:00:44,970
And then we're going to do the

4965
02:00:44,970 --> 02:00:45,340
same thing.

4966
02:00:45,340 --> 02:00:45,970
And then we're going to do the

4967
02:00:45,970 --> 02:00:46,340
same thing.

4968
02:00:46,340 --> 02:00:46,970
And then we're going to do the

4969
02:00:46,970 --> 02:00:47,340
same thing.

4970
02:00:47,340 --> 02:00:48,050
And then we're going to do the

4971
02:00:48,050 --> 02:00:48,340
same thing.

4972
02:00:48,340 --> 02:00:48,970
And then we're going to do the

4973
02:00:48,970 --> 02:00:49,340
same thing.

4974
02:00:49,340 --> 02:00:49,970
And then we're going to do the

4975
02:00:49,970 --> 02:00:50,340
same thing.

4976
02:00:50,340 --> 02:00:50,970
And then we're going to do the

4977
02:00:50,970 --> 02:00:51,340
same thing.

4978
02:00:51,340 --> 02:00:51,970
And then we're going to do the

4979
02:00:51,970 --> 02:00:52,340
same thing.

4980
02:00:52,340 --> 02:00:52,970
And then we're going to do the

4981
02:00:52,970 --> 02:00:53,340
same thing.

4982
02:00:53,340 --> 02:00:53,970
And then we're going to do the

4983
02:00:53,970 --> 02:00:54,340
same thing.

4984
02:00:54,340 --> 02:00:54,970
And then we're going to do the

4985
02:00:54,970 --> 02:00:55,340
same thing.

4986
02:00:55,340 --> 02:00:55,970
And then we're going to do the

4987
02:00:55,970 --> 02:00:56,340
same thing.

4988
02:00:56,340 --> 02:00:56,970
And then we're going to do the

4989
02:00:56,970 --> 02:00:57,340
same thing.

4990
02:00:57,340 --> 02:00:57,970
And then we're going to do the

4991
02:00:57,970 --> 02:00:58,340
same thing.

4992
02:00:58,340 --> 02:00:58,970
And then we're going to do the

4993
02:00:58,970 --> 02:00:59,340
same thing.

4994
02:00:59,340 --> 02:00:59,970
And then we're going to do the

4995
02:00:59,970 --> 02:01:00,340
same thing.

4996
02:01:00,340 --> 02:01:01,040
And then we're going to do the

4997
02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:01,340
same thing.

4998
02:01:01,340 --> 02:01:01,970
And then we're going to do the

4999
02:01:01,970 --> 02:01:02,340
same thing.

5000
02:01:02,340 --> 02:01:02,970
And then we're going to do the

5001
02:01:02,970 --> 02:01:03,340
same thing.

5002
02:01:03,340 --> 02:01:03,970
And then we're going to do the

5003
02:01:03,970 --> 02:01:04,340
same thing.

5004
02:01:04,340 --> 02:01:04,970
And then we're going to do the

5005
02:01:04,970 --> 02:01:05,340
same thing.

5006
02:01:05,340 --> 02:01:05,970
And then we're going to do the

5007
02:01:05,970 --> 02:01:06,340
same thing.

5008
02:01:06,340 --> 02:01:06,990
And then we're going to do the

5009
02:01:06,990 --> 02:01:07,340
same thing.

5010
02:01:07,340 --> 02:01:07,970
And then we're going to do the

5011
02:01:07,970 --> 02:01:08,340
same thing.

5012
02:01:08,340 --> 02:01:08,970
And then we're going to do the

5013
02:01:08,970 --> 02:01:09,340
same thing.

5014
02:01:09,340 --> 02:01:10,000
And then we're going to do the

5015
02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:10,340
same thing.

5016
02:01:10,340 --> 02:01:10,970
And then we're going to do the

5017
02:01:10,970 --> 02:01:11,340
same thing.

5018
02:01:11,340 --> 02:01:11,970
And then we're going to do the

5019
02:01:11,970 --> 02:01:12,340
same thing.

5020
02:01:12,340 --> 02:01:12,970
And then we're going to do the

5021
02:01:12,970 --> 02:01:13,340
same thing.

5022
02:01:13,340 --> 02:01:13,970
And then we're going to do the

5023
02:01:13,970 --> 02:01:14,340
same thing.

5024
02:01:14,340 --> 02:01:14,970
And then we're going to do the

5025
02:01:14,970 --> 02:01:15,340
same thing.

5026
02:01:15,340 --> 02:01:15,970
And then we're going to do the

5027
02:01:15,970 --> 02:01:16,340
same thing.

5028
02:01:16,340 --> 02:01:16,970
And then we're going to do the

5029
02:01:16,970 --> 02:01:17,340
same thing.

5030
02:01:17,340 --> 02:01:17,970
And then we're going to do the

5031
02:01:17,970 --> 02:01:18,340
same thing.

5032
02:01:18,340 --> 02:01:18,970
And then we're going to do the

5033
02:01:18,970 --> 02:01:19,340
same thing.

5034
02:01:19,340 --> 02:01:19,970
And then we're going to do the

5035
02:01:19,970 --> 02:01:20,340
same thing.

5036
02:01:20,340 --> 02:01:21,000
And then we're going to do the

5037
02:01:21,000 --> 02:01:21,340
same thing.

5038
02:01:21,340 --> 02:01:21,970
And then we're going to do the

5039
02:01:21,970 --> 02:01:22,340
same thing.

5040
02:01:22,340 --> 02:01:22,970
And then we're going to do the

5041
02:01:22,970 --> 02:01:23,340
same thing.

5042
02:01:23,340 --> 02:01:23,970
And then we're going to do the

5043
02:01:23,970 --> 02:01:24,340
same thing.

5044
02:01:24,340 --> 02:01:24,990
And then we're going to do the

5045
02:01:24,990 --> 02:01:25,340
same thing.

5046
02:01:25,340 --> 02:01:25,970
And then we're going to do the

5047
02:01:25,970 --> 02:01:26,340
same thing.

5048
02:01:26,340 --> 02:01:26,970
And then we're going to do the

5049
02:01:26,970 --> 02:01:27,340
same thing.

5050
02:01:27,340 --> 02:01:27,970
And then we're going to do the

5051
02:01:27,970 --> 02:01:28,340
same thing.

5052
02:01:28,340 --> 02:01:28,970
And then we're going to do the

5053
02:01:28,970 --> 02:01:29,340
same thing.

5054
02:01:29,340 --> 02:01:29,970
And then we're going to do the

5055
02:01:29,970 --> 02:01:30,340
same thing.

5056
02:01:30,340 --> 02:01:30,970
And then we're going to do the

5057
02:01:30,970 --> 02:01:31,340
same thing.

5058
02:01:31,340 --> 02:01:31,990
And then we're going to do the

5059
02:01:31,990 --> 02:01:32,340
same thing.

5060
02:01:32,340 --> 02:01:32,970
And then we're going to do the

5061
02:01:32,970 --> 02:01:33,340
same thing.

5062
02:01:33,340 --> 02:01:33,970
And then we're going to do the

5063
02:01:33,970 --> 02:01:34,340
same thing.

5064
02:01:34,340 --> 02:01:34,970
And then we're going to do the

5065
02:01:34,970 --> 02:01:35,340
same thing.

5066
02:01:35,340 --> 02:01:35,970
And then we're going to do the

5067
02:01:35,970 --> 02:01:36,340
same thing.

5068
02:01:36,340 --> 02:01:36,970
And then we're going to do the

5069
02:01:36,970 --> 02:01:37,340
same thing.

5070
02:01:37,340 --> 02:01:37,970
And then we're going to do the

5071
02:01:37,970 --> 02:01:38,340
same thing.

5072
02:01:38,340 --> 02:01:38,970
And then we're going to do the

5073
02:01:38,970 --> 02:01:39,340
same thing.

5074
02:01:39,340 --> 02:01:39,970
And then we're going to do the

5075
02:01:39,970 --> 02:01:40,340
same thing.

5076
02:01:40,340 --> 02:01:40,970
And then we're going to do the

5077
02:01:40,970 --> 02:01:41,340
same thing.

5078
02:01:41,340 --> 02:01:41,970
And then we're going to do the

5079
02:01:41,970 --> 02:01:42,340
same thing.

5080
02:01:42,340 --> 02:01:42,970
And then we're going to do the

5081
02:01:42,970 --> 02:01:43,340
same thing.

5082
02:01:43,340 --> 02:01:43,970
And then we're going to do the

5083
02:01:43,970 --> 02:01:44,340
same thing.

5084
02:01:44,340 --> 02:01:44,970
And then we're going to do the

5085
02:01:44,970 --> 02:01:45,340
same thing.

5086
02:01:45,340 --> 02:01:46,040
And then we're going to do the

5087
02:01:46,040 --> 02:01:46,340
same thing.

5088
02:01:46,340 --> 02:01:46,970
And then we're going to do the

5089
02:01:46,970 --> 02:01:47,340
same thing.

5090
02:01:47,340 --> 02:01:47,970
And then we're going to do the

5091
02:01:47,970 --> 02:01:48,340
same thing.

5092
02:01:48,340 --> 02:01:48,970
And then we're going to do the

5093
02:01:48,970 --> 02:01:49,340
same thing.

5094
02:01:49,340 --> 02:01:49,970
And then we're going to do the

5095
02:01:49,970 --> 02:01:50,340
same thing.

5096
02:01:50,340 --> 02:01:50,970
And then we're going to do the

5097
02:01:50,970 --> 02:01:51,340
same thing.

5098
02:01:51,340 --> 02:01:51,970
And then we're going to do the

5099
02:01:51,970 --> 02:01:52,340
same thing.

5100
02:01:52,340 --> 02:01:53,070
And then we're going to do the

5101
02:01:53,070 --> 02:01:53,340
same thing.

5102
02:01:53,340 --> 02:01:53,970
And then we're going to do the

5103
02:01:53,970 --> 02:01:54,340
same thing.

5104
02:01:54,340 --> 02:01:54,970
And then we're going to do the

5105
02:01:54,970 --> 02:01:55,340
same thing.

5106
02:01:55,340 --> 02:01:55,970
And then we're going to do the

5107
02:01:55,970 --> 02:01:56,340
same thing.

5108
02:01:56,340 --> 02:01:57,020
And then we're going to do the

5109
02:01:57,020 --> 02:01:57,340
same thing.

5110
02:01:57,340 --> 02:01:57,970
And then we're going to do the

5111
02:01:57,970 --> 02:01:58,340
same thing.

5112
02:01:58,340 --> 02:01:58,970
And then we're going to do the

5113
02:01:58,970 --> 02:01:59,340
same thing.

5114
02:01:59,340 --> 02:02:00,020
And then we're going to do the

5115
02:02:00,020 --> 02:02:00,340
same thing.

5116
02:02:00,340 --> 02:02:00,990
And then we're going to do the

5117
02:02:00,990 --> 02:02:01,340
same thing.

5118
02:02:01,340 --> 02:02:01,970
And then we're going to do the

5119
02:02:01,970 --> 02:02:02,340
same thing.

5120
02:02:02,340 --> 02:02:02,970
And then we're going to do the

5121
02:02:02,970 --> 02:02:03,340
same thing.

5122
02:02:03,340 --> 02:02:03,970
And then we're going to do the

5123
02:02:03,970 --> 02:02:04,340
same thing.

5124
02:02:04,340 --> 02:02:04,980
And then we're going to do the

5125
02:02:04,980 --> 02:02:05,340
same thing.

5126
02:02:05,340 --> 02:02:06,080
And then we're going to do the

5127
02:02:06,080 --> 02:02:06,340
same thing.

5128
02:02:06,340 --> 02:02:06,970
And then we're going to do the

5129
02:02:06,970 --> 02:02:07,340
same thing.

5130
02:02:07,340 --> 02:02:07,970
And then we're going to do the

5131
02:02:07,970 --> 02:02:08,340
same thing.

5132
02:02:08,340 --> 02:02:08,970
And then we're going to do the

5133
02:02:08,970 --> 02:02:09,340
same thing.

5134
02:02:09,340 --> 02:02:09,970
And then we're going to do the

5135
02:02:09,970 --> 02:02:10,340
same thing.

5136
02:02:10,340 --> 02:02:10,980
And then we're going to do the

5137
02:02:10,980 --> 02:02:11,340
same thing.

5138
02:02:11,340 --> 02:02:12,030
And then we're going to do the

5139
02:02:12,030 --> 02:02:12,340
same thing.

5140
02:02:12,340 --> 02:02:13,030
And then we're going to do the

5141
02:02:13,030 --> 02:02:13,340
same thing.

5142
02:02:13,340 --> 02:02:13,970
And then we're going to do the

5143
02:02:13,970 --> 02:02:14,340
same thing.

5144
02:02:14,340 --> 02:02:14,970
And then we're going to do the

5145
02:02:14,970 --> 02:02:15,340
same thing.

5146
02:02:15,340 --> 02:02:15,970
And then we're going to do the

5147
02:02:15,970 --> 02:02:16,340
same thing.

5148
02:02:16,340 --> 02:02:16,970
And then we're going to do the

5149
02:02:16,970 --> 02:02:17,340
same thing.

5150
02:02:17,340 --> 02:02:17,980
And then we're going to do the

5151
02:02:17,980 --> 02:02:18,340
same thing.

5152
02:02:18,340 --> 02:02:18,970
And then we're going to do the

5153
02:02:18,970 --> 02:02:19,340
same thing.

5154
02:02:19,340 --> 02:02:19,970
And then we're going to do the

5155
02:02:19,970 --> 02:02:20,340
same thing.

5156
02:02:20,340 --> 02:02:20,970
And then we're going to do the

5157
02:02:20,970 --> 02:02:21,340
same thing.

5158
02:02:21,340 --> 02:02:21,970
And then we're going to do the

5159
02:02:21,970 --> 02:02:22,340
same thing.

5160
02:02:22,340 --> 02:02:22,970
And then we're going to do the

5161
02:02:22,970 --> 02:02:23,340
same thing.

5162
02:02:23,340 --> 02:02:23,970
And then we're going to do the

5163
02:02:23,970 --> 02:02:24,340
same thing.

5164
02:02:24,340 --> 02:02:24,970
And then we're going to do the

5165
02:02:24,970 --> 02:02:25,340
same thing.

5166
02:02:25,340 --> 02:02:25,970
And then we're going to do the

5167
02:02:25,970 --> 02:02:26,340
same thing.

5168
02:02:26,340 --> 02:02:26,970
And then we're going to do the

5169
02:02:26,970 --> 02:02:27,340
same thing.

5170
02:02:27,340 --> 02:02:27,970
And then we're going to do the

5171
02:02:27,970 --> 02:02:28,340
same thing.

5172
02:02:28,340 --> 02:02:29,070
And then we're going to do the

5173
02:02:29,070 --> 02:02:29,340
same thing.

5174
02:02:29,340 --> 02:02:29,960
And then we're going to do the

5175
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:30,340
same thing.

5176
02:02:30,340 --> 02:02:30,970
And then we're going to do the

5177
02:02:30,970 --> 02:02:31,340
same thing.

5178
02:02:31,340 --> 02:02:31,970
And then we're going to do the

5179
02:02:31,970 --> 02:02:32,340
same thing.

5180
02:02:32,340 --> 02:02:32,970
And then we're going to do the

5181
02:02:32,970 --> 02:02:33,340
same thing.

5182
02:02:33,340 --> 02:02:33,960
And then we're going to do the

5183
02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:34,340
same thing.

5184
02:02:34,340 --> 02:02:35,050
And then we're going to do the

5185
02:02:35,050 --> 02:02:35,340
same thing.

5186
02:02:35,340 --> 02:02:35,970
And then we're going to do the

5187
02:02:35,970 --> 02:02:36,340
same thing.

5188
02:02:36,340 --> 02:02:38,990
I love the American turn of

5189
02:02:38,990 --> 02:02:41,340
phrase, "You bet."

5190
02:02:41,340 --> 02:02:42,900
Rumsfeld used to say that a lot

5191
02:02:42,900 --> 02:02:43,340
as well.

5192
02:02:43,340 --> 02:02:44,830
There's some congressional

5193
02:02:44,830 --> 02:02:46,150
hearings where he's like

5194
02:02:46,150 --> 02:02:47,340
explaining stuff.

5195
02:02:47,340 --> 02:02:49,070
And then, "Can you tell us what

5196
02:02:49,070 --> 02:02:50,890
your methodology was when the

5197
02:02:50,890 --> 02:02:52,340
lead up to the war?"

5198
02:02:52,340 --> 02:02:53,340
"You bet."

5199
02:02:53,340 --> 02:02:54,340
And then he'd go off on one.

5200
02:02:54,340 --> 02:02:55,340
"You bet."

5201
02:02:55,340 --> 02:02:57,340
We don't say that.

5202
02:02:57,340 --> 02:02:58,340
But we should start saying it.

5203
02:02:58,340 --> 02:02:59,190
"Listen to the music

5204
02:02:59,190 --> 02:03:00,340
capabilities of the Amiga

5205
02:03:00,340 --> 02:03:01,720
with a hot new program called

5206
02:03:01,720 --> 02:03:02,340
Music X."

5207
02:03:02,340 --> 02:03:03,340
"Hot."

5208
02:03:03,340 --> 02:03:04,340
"So stay with us."

5209
02:03:04,340 --> 02:03:05,340
"Music X."

5210
02:03:05,340 --> 02:03:07,340
"Music X."

5211
02:03:07,340 --> 02:03:09,450
And I like the way Stu says, "Stay

5212
02:03:09,450 --> 02:03:10,340
with us."

5213
02:03:10,340 --> 02:03:12,270
And he stays with us for a few

5214
02:03:12,270 --> 02:03:14,870
brief moments as he shrinks

5215
02:03:14,870 --> 02:03:16,780
into a little box at the top of

5216
02:03:16,780 --> 02:03:17,340
the screen.

5217
02:03:17,340 --> 02:03:18,340
"Stay with us."

5218
02:03:18,340 --> 02:03:19,340
"Shh."

5219
02:03:19,340 --> 02:03:21,340
He's still there.

5220
02:03:21,340 --> 02:03:22,340
He's still there.

5221
02:03:22,340 --> 02:03:23,700
He's going to get wiped away

5222
02:03:23,700 --> 02:03:25,340
into another agnostic scene.

5223
02:03:25,340 --> 02:03:26,340
"Curnione."

5224
02:03:26,340 --> 02:03:28,150
"Thank you very much for your

5225
02:03:28,150 --> 02:03:29,340
agnostic tip."

5226
02:03:29,340 --> 02:03:30,340
And look at this.

5227
02:03:30,340 --> 02:03:31,850
I love these wipes to play

5228
02:03:31,850 --> 02:03:33,340
these frame by frame.

5229
02:03:33,340 --> 02:03:34,900
And sometimes you get left with

5230
02:03:34,900 --> 02:03:35,340
this.

5231
02:03:35,340 --> 02:03:38,340
"Stew's bottom half of his face."

5232
02:03:38,340 --> 02:03:41,340
And another person's face.

5233
02:03:41,340 --> 02:03:43,340
Although they haven't lined up.

5234
02:03:43,340 --> 02:03:44,790
Sometimes you can get them to

5235
02:03:44,790 --> 02:03:45,340
line up.

5236
02:03:45,340 --> 02:03:46,340
And it's cracking.

5237
02:03:46,340 --> 02:03:47,340
It really is.

5238
02:03:47,340 --> 02:03:49,830
One time they even transitioned

5239
02:03:49,830 --> 02:03:52,340
from "Stew" to another "Stew."

5240
02:03:52,340 --> 02:03:54,480
And we got double "Stew" in two

5241
02:03:54,480 --> 02:03:55,340
places.

5242
02:03:55,340 --> 02:03:57,340
Just taking his head off there.

5243
02:03:57,340 --> 02:04:02,310
Brian May in the studio coming

5244
02:04:02,310 --> 02:04:03,340
up.

5245
02:04:03,340 --> 02:04:08,200
studio coming up. So they got

5246
02:04:08,200 --> 02:04:14,160
rid of turnip seed out with the

5247
02:04:14,160 --> 02:04:17,980
turnip seed in with the me.

5248
02:04:17,980 --> 02:04:20,480
Joining us in the studio now is

5249
02:04:20,480 --> 02:04:21,630
David Joyner. David's a

5250
02:04:21,630 --> 02:04:23,110
programmer with Micro Illusions

5251
02:04:23,110 --> 02:04:24,480
and the developer of MusicX and

5252
02:04:24,480 --> 02:04:25,900
back with us Adams Douglas.

5253
02:04:25,900 --> 02:04:27,440
David we've seen how Adams

5254
02:04:27,440 --> 02:04:29,120
Douglas his name is Adams not

5255
02:04:29,120 --> 02:04:30,530
Adam. An Amiga can be used for

5256
02:04:30,530 --> 02:04:32,080
professional animation. What

5257
02:04:32,080 --> 02:04:33,320
does an Amiga do for

5258
02:04:33,320 --> 02:04:34,800
you as a musician? Well it

5259
02:04:34,800 --> 02:04:36,500
allows me to essentially set up

5260
02:04:36,500 --> 02:04:38,220
a multi-track recording studio

5261
02:04:38,220 --> 02:04:40,120
in my home. The synthesizers

5262
02:04:40,120 --> 02:04:41,250
nowadays all have what is

5263
02:04:41,250 --> 02:04:42,800
called MIDI which stands for

5264
02:04:42,800 --> 02:04:44,350
Musical Instrument Digital

5265
02:04:44,350 --> 02:04:46,010
Interface. It's like a set of

5266
02:04:46,010 --> 02:04:47,560
agreements between various

5267
02:04:47,560 --> 02:04:49,440
music synthesizer manufacturers

5268
02:04:49,440 --> 02:04:50,660
as to how their various

5269
02:04:50,660 --> 02:04:52,290
instruments can communicate

5270
02:04:52,290 --> 02:04:53,510
with each other and the

5271
02:04:53,510 --> 02:04:54,930
computer can receive that

5272
02:04:54,930 --> 02:04:56,550
information and process it in

5273
02:04:56,550 --> 02:04:58,220
various ways. He's got these

5274
02:04:58,220 --> 02:04:59,940
wrist guards on for like heavy

5275
02:04:59,940 --> 02:05:01,380
duty sessions at the desk.

5276
02:05:01,380 --> 02:05:03,300
Record it performance.

5277
02:05:03,300 --> 02:05:05,190
And show you how it works. I'll

5278
02:05:05,190 --> 02:05:06,380
set the tempo to some

5279
02:05:06,380 --> 02:05:08,270
reasonable value. Maybe they

5280
02:05:08,270 --> 02:05:09,930
can double up as sweat things

5281
02:05:09,930 --> 02:05:12,100
as well you know. Sweat bands.

5282
02:05:12,100 --> 02:05:14,460
131 quarter notes per minute. I'll

5283
02:05:14,460 --> 02:05:16,130
now start to record. The drum

5284
02:05:16,130 --> 02:05:18,140
machine which has been synchronized

5285
02:05:18,140 --> 02:05:19,240
to the computer will

5286
02:05:19,240 --> 02:05:20,760
automatically start.

5287
02:05:26,300 --> 02:05:30,900
So now you're making a digital

5288
02:05:30,900 --> 02:05:36,280
recording. So now you're making

5289
02:05:36,280 --> 02:05:41,950
a digital recording. So now you're

5290
02:05:41,950 --> 02:05:46,880
making a digital recording.

5291
02:05:55,300 --> 02:05:57,300
And I stop that.

5292
02:06:01,300 --> 02:06:02,500
Pour it into the machine. Now

5293
02:06:02,500 --> 02:06:04,150
if I go back to the beginning

5294
02:06:04,150 --> 02:06:05,300
and play again.

5295
02:06:09,300 --> 02:06:11,300
Little time signature.

5296
02:06:19,300 --> 02:06:15,040
And you can see it's got

5297
02:06:15,040 --> 02:06:19,070
controls just like a tape

5298
02:06:19,070 --> 02:06:22,590
recorder. Fast forward, rewind

5299
02:06:22,590 --> 02:06:23,300
and play.

5300
02:06:24,300 --> 02:06:25,850
This program has been designed

5301
02:06:25,850 --> 02:06:27,300
to work on various levels.

5302
02:06:27,300 --> 02:06:28,800
On the surface level it's very

5303
02:06:28,800 --> 02:06:30,000
simple, but at the same time

5304
02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:31,070
you can dig down deep into its

5305
02:06:31,070 --> 02:06:32,300
innards and sort of...

5306
02:06:32,300 --> 02:06:33,300
Inners.

5307
02:06:33,300 --> 02:06:34,060
Right now what you do is you

5308
02:06:34,060 --> 02:06:34,960
record one segment of music and

5309
02:06:34,960 --> 02:06:35,700
how many segments can you

5310
02:06:35,700 --> 02:06:36,300
record then?

5311
02:06:36,300 --> 02:06:38,060
You can record up to 250

5312
02:06:38,060 --> 02:06:39,870
segments in the computer,

5313
02:06:39,870 --> 02:06:41,730
although 20 of them can play at

5314
02:06:41,730 --> 02:06:42,300
once.

5315
02:06:42,300 --> 02:06:43,650
Okay. Can you show us how you

5316
02:06:43,650 --> 02:06:45,300
manage some of those segments?

5317
02:06:45,300 --> 02:06:47,300
Okay. Here's the editing screen.

5318
02:06:47,300 --> 02:06:48,730
Well there's various different

5319
02:06:48,730 --> 02:06:49,860
editors. I'll show you the

5320
02:06:49,860 --> 02:06:50,910
simplest one, which is the bar

5321
02:06:50,910 --> 02:06:51,300
editor,

5322
02:06:51,300 --> 02:06:53,020
which shows the music as a

5323
02:06:53,020 --> 02:06:54,300
series of bars.

5324
02:06:54,300 --> 02:06:55,740
And in fact you can drag notes

5325
02:06:55,740 --> 02:06:56,300
around.

5326
02:06:58,300 --> 02:07:03,300
Chris Joyner Selleck from Nirvana.

5327
02:07:03,300 --> 02:07:04,300
Shut that off.

5328
02:07:04,300 --> 02:07:05,300
Shut that off.

5329
02:07:05,300 --> 02:07:07,300
Get rid of that.

5330
02:07:07,300 --> 02:07:08,300
Shut that off.

5331
02:07:09,300 --> 02:07:11,300
Anyway.

5332
02:07:11,300 --> 02:07:11,910
So what are some of the other

5333
02:07:11,910 --> 02:07:12,300
controls?

5334
02:07:12,300 --> 02:07:12,300
Anyway.

5335
02:07:12,300 --> 02:07:12,920
So what are some of the other

5336
02:07:12,920 --> 02:07:13,300
controls?

5337
02:07:13,300 --> 02:07:14,300
Anyway.

5338
02:07:14,300 --> 02:07:14,920
So what are some of the other

5339
02:07:14,920 --> 02:07:15,300
controls?

5340
02:07:15,300 --> 02:07:16,300
That was a fluff.

5341
02:07:16,300 --> 02:07:18,530
That was a fluff part of the

5342
02:07:18,530 --> 02:07:20,300
interview there.

5343
02:07:20,300 --> 02:07:22,020
Which shows the music as a

5344
02:07:22,020 --> 02:07:23,300
series of bars.

5345
02:07:23,300 --> 02:07:24,740
And in fact you can drag notes

5346
02:07:24,740 --> 02:07:25,300
around.

5347
02:07:25,300 --> 02:07:30,300
Shut that off.

5348
02:07:30,300 --> 02:07:33,300
Anyway--

5349
02:07:33,300 --> 02:07:34,810
So what are some of the other

5350
02:07:34,810 --> 02:07:36,300
controls that you have?

5351
02:07:36,300 --> 02:07:38,150
Well, I'll show you some of the

5352
02:07:38,150 --> 02:07:39,300
other screens.

5353
02:07:39,300 --> 02:07:42,440
There is the librarian screen,

5354
02:07:42,440 --> 02:07:44,300
which allows you to send sound

5355
02:07:44,300 --> 02:07:46,300
data to the synthesizer and

5356
02:07:46,300 --> 02:07:47,380
make the synthesizer play

5357
02:07:47,380 --> 02:07:48,300
different sounds.

5358
02:07:48,300 --> 02:07:49,760
You can store the various

5359
02:07:49,760 --> 02:07:51,520
patches from the synthesizer

5360
02:07:51,520 --> 02:07:52,300
onto disk.

5361
02:07:52,300 --> 02:07:55,300
There's going to be-- let's see.

5362
02:07:55,300 --> 02:07:57,300
We have filters.

5363
02:07:57,300 --> 02:07:59,590
It does look like Gilbert O'Sullivan

5364
02:07:59,590 --> 02:08:00,300
as well.

5365
02:08:00,300 --> 02:08:02,300
Schnuffles, thank you very much.

5366
02:08:02,300 --> 02:08:05,290
It's a Chris Novoselic, Brian

5367
02:08:05,290 --> 02:08:07,820
May, Gilbert O'Sullivan

5368
02:08:07,820 --> 02:08:09,300
situation.

5369
02:08:09,300 --> 02:08:11,300
All three.

5370
02:08:11,300 --> 02:08:13,300
In one room, in one box.

5371
02:08:13,300 --> 02:08:15,110
...joiner, David's a programmer

5372
02:08:15,110 --> 02:08:16,340
with Microillusions and the

5373
02:08:16,340 --> 02:08:17,300
developer of MusicX.

5374
02:08:17,300 --> 02:08:19,300
And back with us, Adams Douglas.

5375
02:08:19,300 --> 02:08:21,300
David, we've seen how--

5376
02:08:21,300 --> 02:08:22,300
Exactly.

5377
02:08:22,300 --> 02:08:24,400
David, what does MusicX do that's

5378
02:08:24,400 --> 02:08:25,990
new in terms of this kind of

5379
02:08:25,990 --> 02:08:27,300
music software?

5380
02:08:27,300 --> 02:08:28,840
Well, it's new in the sense

5381
02:08:28,840 --> 02:08:30,300
that it's affordable.

5382
02:08:30,300 --> 02:08:31,410
It runs on a machine that's

5383
02:08:31,410 --> 02:08:32,680
affordable and a machine that

5384
02:08:32,680 --> 02:08:33,300
has color.

5385
02:08:33,300 --> 02:08:35,020
It does. It's Novoselic to the

5386
02:08:35,020 --> 02:08:35,300
max.

5387
02:08:35,300 --> 02:08:37,370
The Amiga is a very creative

5388
02:08:37,370 --> 02:08:38,300
machine.

5389
02:08:38,300 --> 02:08:39,570
I think it has a very creative

5390
02:08:39,570 --> 02:08:40,300
spirit to it.

5391
02:08:40,300 --> 02:08:42,550
And I think that many musicians

5392
02:08:42,550 --> 02:08:44,300
are attracted to that.

5393
02:08:44,300 --> 02:08:45,840
A bit of Josh Groban in there

5394
02:08:45,840 --> 02:08:47,720
as well, says Aaron. I'm not

5395
02:08:47,720 --> 02:08:49,300
familiar with his face.

5396
02:08:49,300 --> 02:08:52,790
And they're dying for an excuse

5397
02:08:52,790 --> 02:08:54,300
to buy one.

5398
02:08:54,300 --> 02:08:56,300
Adam's MusicX is in development

5399
02:08:56,300 --> 02:08:57,610
now, right? I mean, you're

5400
02:08:57,610 --> 02:08:58,300
still working on this thing.

5401
02:08:58,300 --> 02:08:59,300
When's it gonna hit the market?

5402
02:08:59,300 --> 02:09:00,710
This will be out in about two

5403
02:09:00,710 --> 02:09:01,300
months.

5404
02:09:01,300 --> 02:09:02,120
Okay, and you said it's

5405
02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:03,300
reasonable. What will it cost?

5406
02:09:03,300 --> 02:09:05,550
Uh, $290, I believe. Something

5407
02:09:05,550 --> 02:09:06,300
like that.

5408
02:09:06,300 --> 02:09:07,850
Although by the time this

5409
02:09:07,850 --> 02:09:09,300
program airs it, uh--

5410
02:09:09,300 --> 02:09:10,780
So wait a sec. They're calling

5411
02:09:10,780 --> 02:09:12,300
him Adam. Oh yeah, he is Adam.

5412
02:09:12,300 --> 02:09:13,940
$290, I believe. Something like

5413
02:09:13,940 --> 02:09:14,300
that.

5414
02:09:14,300 --> 02:09:15,570
Although by the time this

5415
02:09:15,570 --> 02:09:17,160
program airs it, uh, may be

5416
02:09:17,160 --> 02:09:18,300
less than two months.

5417
02:09:18,300 --> 02:09:20,300
Okay. And is this for the--

5418
02:09:20,300 --> 02:09:21,800
Thank you very much, Garrish,

5419
02:09:21,800 --> 02:09:22,300
for the tip.

5420
02:09:22,300 --> 02:09:23,420
Professional musician,

5421
02:09:23,420 --> 02:09:24,800
primarily MusicX, or is it for

5422
02:09:24,800 --> 02:09:26,300
a person who's not a performer

5423
02:09:26,300 --> 02:09:27,860
and can still take advantage of

5424
02:09:27,860 --> 02:09:28,300
this?

5425
02:09:28,300 --> 02:09:29,930
Well, I think the program can

5426
02:09:29,930 --> 02:09:31,630
adapt to various levels of, uh,

5427
02:09:31,630 --> 02:09:32,300
talent.

5428
02:09:32,300 --> 02:09:33,530
If you're, uh, uh, uh, an

5429
02:09:33,530 --> 02:09:34,930
amateur musician, sort of like

5430
02:09:34,930 --> 02:09:35,300
I am,

5431
02:09:35,300 --> 02:09:37,070
or I'm really, uh, uh, sort of

5432
02:09:37,070 --> 02:09:39,600
a musician techie, uh, I like

5433
02:09:39,600 --> 02:09:40,990
to be able to compose on a

5434
02:09:40,990 --> 02:09:41,300
screen

5435
02:09:41,300 --> 02:09:42,450
because I'm not that great of a

5436
02:09:42,450 --> 02:09:43,300
keyboard player.

5437
02:09:43,300 --> 02:09:44,690
On the other hand, I want

5438
02:09:44,690 --> 02:09:46,710
something that the professional

5439
02:09:46,710 --> 02:09:47,300
can also use

5440
02:09:47,300 --> 02:09:49,300
and, uh, in his-- in his work.

5441
02:09:49,300 --> 02:09:50,770
One last question. We've heard

5442
02:09:50,770 --> 02:09:51,650
of the Atari ST a lot for

5443
02:09:51,650 --> 02:09:52,300
musicians.

5444
02:09:52,300 --> 02:09:53,770
Uh, how does that compare to an

5445
02:09:53,770 --> 02:09:55,300
Amiga for what you're doing?

5446
02:09:55,300 --> 02:09:56,610
Well, I think the Amiga is a

5447
02:09:56,610 --> 02:09:58,110
little bit more polished in the

5448
02:09:58,110 --> 02:09:59,300
way it's designed.

5449
02:09:59,300 --> 02:10:00,830
And I am hoping that MusicX

5450
02:10:00,830 --> 02:10:02,440
will be able to support a lot

5451
02:10:02,440 --> 02:10:03,300
more features

5452
02:10:03,300 --> 02:10:04,510
because of the multitasking

5453
02:10:04,510 --> 02:10:05,300
power of the Amiga.

5454
02:10:05,300 --> 02:10:06,860
David, Adams, thank you very

5455
02:10:06,860 --> 02:10:07,300
much.

5456
02:10:07,300 --> 02:10:09,300
I wonder what MusicX became.

5457
02:10:09,300 --> 02:10:10,300
Did that become something?

5458
02:10:10,300 --> 02:10:13,110
Uh, was that one of the, like,

5459
02:10:13,110 --> 02:10:15,630
leading music creation software

5460
02:10:15,630 --> 02:10:16,300
things

5461
02:10:16,300 --> 02:10:17,630
before the big players came

5462
02:10:17,630 --> 02:10:21,300
into town? Um, Amiga, of course,

5463
02:10:21,300 --> 02:10:23,300
probably was like the--

5464
02:10:23,300 --> 02:10:24,970
the thing that people used to

5465
02:10:24,970 --> 02:10:26,770
make their electronic music

5466
02:10:26,770 --> 02:10:29,300
back in the late 80s, early 90s.

5467
02:10:29,300 --> 02:10:31,980
And then, when Windows came

5468
02:10:31,980 --> 02:10:33,210
along, it probably became

5469
02:10:33,210 --> 02:10:34,300
something more deeper.

5470
02:10:34,300 --> 02:10:36,910
Uh, Ableton, or, as somebody

5471
02:10:36,910 --> 02:10:39,750
says there, Fruity Loops. I'm

5472
02:10:39,750 --> 02:10:40,300
not sure.

5473
02:10:40,300 --> 02:10:41,980
Now we know about the music and

5474
02:10:41,980 --> 02:10:44,300
graphics capabilities of the Amiga.

5475
02:10:44,300 --> 02:10:45,680
There are also scientific

5476
02:10:45,680 --> 02:10:47,300
applications on the Amiga.

5477
02:10:47,300 --> 02:10:48,790
Wendy Woods has a report from

5478
02:10:48,790 --> 02:10:49,300
the Smith-

5479
02:10:49,300 --> 02:10:50,300
Love Wendy Woods.

5480
02:10:50,300 --> 02:10:51,520
The WI Research Foundation in

5481
02:10:51,520 --> 02:10:52,300
San Francisco.

5482
02:10:52,300 --> 02:10:54,620
Wendy Woods, uh, was the one

5483
02:10:54,620 --> 02:10:57,500
who put on that fuckin' headset.

5484
02:10:57,500 --> 02:11:00,300
Uh, it was like a crazy headset.

5485
02:11:00,300 --> 02:11:02,780
I don't know if I had that, uh,

5486
02:11:02,780 --> 02:11:03,300
image.

5487
02:11:03,300 --> 02:11:08,300
Uh, and she sat in-- in a booth.

5488
02:11:08,300 --> 02:11:11,010
Do I get that fuckin' thing? I

5489
02:11:11,010 --> 02:11:12,570
don't have it. I have it here

5490
02:11:12,570 --> 02:11:13,300
on the-- on the second screen,

5491
02:11:13,300 --> 02:11:14,710
but I'm not able to transfer it

5492
02:11:14,710 --> 02:11:15,300
to this.

5493
02:11:15,300 --> 02:11:16,790
You'll know who I'm on about

5494
02:11:16,790 --> 02:11:17,300
here.

5495
02:11:18,300 --> 02:11:22,300
Now you see it. Now you don't.

5496
02:11:22,300 --> 02:11:24,210
The letter E vanishes when the

5497
02:11:24,210 --> 02:11:26,320
motion stops. In this

5498
02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:27,800
experiment, the lines with the

5499
02:11:27,800 --> 02:11:29,470
black squares appear to be

5500
02:11:29,470 --> 02:11:30,300
crooked.

5501
02:11:30,300 --> 02:11:32,160
But when the color is changed

5502
02:11:32,160 --> 02:11:34,500
to green, they are straight.

5503
02:11:34,500 --> 02:11:35,440
These are two of dozens of

5504
02:11:35,440 --> 02:11:36,650
visual experiments being

5505
02:11:36,650 --> 02:11:38,120
conducted at San Francisco's

5506
02:11:38,120 --> 02:11:39,470
Smith-Kettlewell Eye Research

5507
02:11:39,470 --> 02:11:40,300
Foundation.

5508
02:11:40,300 --> 02:11:42,510
Look at the, uh, the poise on

5509
02:11:42,510 --> 02:11:44,120
that there. That's someone

5510
02:11:44,120 --> 02:11:45,960
really getting to grips with

5511
02:11:45,960 --> 02:11:48,420
their software. And you know it's

5512
02:11:48,420 --> 02:11:50,130
an interesting situation when

5513
02:11:50,130 --> 02:11:52,030
someone's standing by idly just

5514
02:11:52,030 --> 02:11:53,520
watching it unfold on the

5515
02:11:53,520 --> 02:11:55,560
screen. Some serious stuff is

5516
02:11:55,560 --> 02:11:57,300
going down in this office.

5517
02:11:57,300 --> 02:11:59,390
Where a team headed by Dr. Ken

5518
02:11:59,390 --> 02:12:01,310
Nakayama is studying human

5519
02:12:01,310 --> 02:12:02,940
visual perception, and

5520
02:12:02,940 --> 02:12:04,970
specifically, how motion is

5521
02:12:04,970 --> 02:12:07,300
involved in helping us to see.

5522
02:12:07,300 --> 02:12:08,850
Dr. Ken Nakayama creates these

5523
02:12:08,850 --> 02:12:10,300
experiments using Amigas.

5524
02:12:10,300 --> 02:12:12,250
Anyone-- anyone sensing some

5525
02:12:12,250 --> 02:12:14,230
inner turmoil with stew, he

5526
02:12:14,230 --> 02:12:16,550
seems a bit sad. Not at all. He's--

5527
02:12:16,550 --> 02:12:18,310
it's-- it's never not under

5528
02:12:18,310 --> 02:12:19,300
control.

5529
02:12:19,300 --> 02:12:21,050
Running deluxe paint software

5530
02:12:21,050 --> 02:12:22,300
from Electronic Arts.

5531
02:12:22,300 --> 02:12:23,850
Well, the Amiga, especially at

5532
02:12:23,850 --> 02:12:25,280
the time that, uh, it emerged

5533
02:12:25,280 --> 02:12:26,810
about two years ago, was really

5534
02:12:26,810 --> 02:12:28,150
the only thing on the block to

5535
02:12:28,150 --> 02:12:29,430
do the kind of things that we

5536
02:12:29,430 --> 02:12:30,300
wanted to do.

5537
02:12:30,300 --> 02:12:32,050
It has a really great graphics

5538
02:12:32,050 --> 02:12:34,010
capability, as you're probably

5539
02:12:34,010 --> 02:12:36,110
aware. It has special hardware,

5540
02:12:36,110 --> 02:12:37,580
which enables you to move

5541
02:12:37,580 --> 02:12:39,400
images around without even the

5542
02:12:39,400 --> 02:12:41,140
CPU knowing it's happening,

5543
02:12:41,140 --> 02:12:42,300
essentially.

5544
02:12:42,300 --> 02:12:43,330
So you can just do things very,

5545
02:12:43,330 --> 02:12:44,340
very fast. You can't do it on

5546
02:12:44,340 --> 02:12:45,300
the previous machine.

5547
02:12:45,300 --> 02:12:47,440
Dr. Nakayama feels that Amigas

5548
02:12:47,440 --> 02:12:49,070
and micros in general are

5549
02:12:49,070 --> 02:12:50,850
opening a whole new field of

5550
02:12:50,850 --> 02:12:52,300
vision research.

5551
02:12:52,300 --> 02:12:54,320
The motion that you can achieve

5552
02:12:54,320 --> 02:12:56,120
on a computer screen simply

5553
02:12:56,120 --> 02:12:57,680
cannot be duplicated by

5554
02:12:57,680 --> 02:12:59,300
standard eye tests.

5555
02:12:59,300 --> 02:13:00,860
People here are pioneering the

5556
02:13:00,860 --> 02:13:02,240
use of low-cost micros with

5557
02:13:02,240 --> 02:13:03,680
technically sophisticated

5558
02:13:03,680 --> 02:13:04,300
graphics--

5559
02:13:04,300 --> 02:13:05,300
Solid woods.

5560
02:13:05,300 --> 02:13:07,770
--in vision research. And

5561
02:13:07,770 --> 02:13:08,800
eventually, these Amiga

5562
02:13:08,800 --> 02:13:10,230
graphics experiments may end up

5563
02:13:10,230 --> 02:13:11,880
in clinical settings to test

5564
02:13:11,880 --> 02:13:14,210
actual patients with vision

5565
02:13:14,210 --> 02:13:15,300
problems.

5566
02:13:15,300 --> 02:13:16,780
In San Francisco, for the

5567
02:13:16,780 --> 02:13:18,670
Computer Chronicles, I'm Wendy

5568
02:13:18,670 --> 02:13:19,300
Woods.

5569
02:13:27,300 --> 02:13:22,140
If somebody was saying, if

5570
02:13:22,140 --> 02:13:25,240
somebody did say there that is

5571
02:13:25,240 --> 02:13:28,200
Stu coming across as a little

5572
02:13:28,200 --> 02:13:31,420
bit low energy or anything like

5573
02:13:31,420 --> 02:13:34,500
that, or is a bit morose, it's

5574
02:13:34,500 --> 02:13:35,300
not that at all.

5575
02:13:35,300 --> 02:13:37,810
I just think it's the early

5576
02:13:37,810 --> 02:13:40,710
days of Computer Chronicles,

5577
02:13:40,710 --> 02:13:43,560
the more deferential Stu,

5578
02:13:43,560 --> 02:13:45,910
before obviously he became

5579
02:13:45,910 --> 02:13:47,300
Power Stu.

5580
02:13:47,300 --> 02:13:50,520
He hasn't become his final form

5581
02:13:50,520 --> 02:13:51,300
yet.

5582
02:13:54,300 --> 02:13:56,040
I wonder, do they feel a little

5583
02:13:56,040 --> 02:13:58,300
bit on edge?

5584
02:13:58,300 --> 02:13:59,910
The two boys are with this

5585
02:13:59,910 --> 02:14:02,170
thing, big contraption, staring

5586
02:14:02,170 --> 02:14:03,300
right at them.

5587
02:14:04,300 --> 02:14:06,300
I'm getting deja Stu.

5588
02:14:06,300 --> 02:14:07,910
I don't know about you, but I'm

5589
02:14:07,910 --> 02:14:09,300
getting deja Stu here.

5590
02:14:09,300 --> 02:14:10,300
Have we seen it?

5591
02:14:10,300 --> 02:14:12,380
But the whole turnip seed thing

5592
02:14:12,380 --> 02:14:14,540
has made me think, no, I've not

5593
02:14:14,540 --> 02:14:15,300
seen it.

5594
02:14:15,300 --> 02:14:17,040
And even your man there in Nakayama,

5595
02:14:17,040 --> 02:14:18,550
Dr. Nakayama, I don't remember

5596
02:14:18,550 --> 02:14:19,300
seeing him.

5597
02:14:19,300 --> 02:14:21,510
With us in the studio now are

5598
02:14:21,510 --> 02:14:24,100
Tim Jennison, President of New

5599
02:14:24,100 --> 02:14:26,450
Tech of Topeka, Kansas, and

5600
02:14:26,450 --> 02:14:27,810
next to Tim, the Vice President

5601
02:14:27,810 --> 02:14:29,300
of New Tech, Paul Montgomery.

5602
02:14:29,300 --> 02:14:31,050
Stuart, so far we've seen the

5603
02:14:31,050 --> 02:14:32,740
Amiga used for animation and

5604
02:14:32,740 --> 02:14:34,300
for a musician's tool.

5605
02:14:34,300 --> 02:14:35,330
We have a TV camera sitting

5606
02:14:35,330 --> 02:14:36,540
here, so I guess we've covered

5607
02:14:36,540 --> 02:14:37,300
all the bases.

5608
02:14:37,300 --> 02:14:39,300
We're up to video on the Amiga.

5609
02:14:39,300 --> 02:14:40,880
Tim, why did you choose the Amiga

5610
02:14:40,880 --> 02:14:42,340
as a target for your product, a

5611
02:14:42,340 --> 02:14:43,300
video product?

5612
02:14:43,300 --> 02:14:44,740
Well, the Amiga, of all the

5613
02:14:44,740 --> 02:14:46,180
computers on the market, is

5614
02:14:46,180 --> 02:14:47,590
really most well suited for

5615
02:14:47,590 --> 02:14:48,300
video use.

5616
02:14:48,300 --> 02:14:50,300
Right out of the box, it's...

5617
02:14:50,300 --> 02:14:51,300
Right out of the box.

5618
02:14:51,300 --> 02:14:52,300
I love that.

5619
02:14:52,300 --> 02:14:53,990
I love when they're presenting

5620
02:14:53,990 --> 02:14:55,550
a new product and it's like

5621
02:14:55,550 --> 02:14:57,300
fresh out the box experience.

5622
02:14:57,300 --> 02:14:59,300
A trifecta of beards as well.

5623
02:14:59,300 --> 02:15:01,370
We've got Gary's, we've got

5624
02:15:01,370 --> 02:15:03,230
Jennison's, and with this fella

5625
02:15:03,230 --> 02:15:04,300
here as well.

5626
02:15:06,300 --> 02:15:08,300
Which is a great beard.

5627
02:15:08,300 --> 02:15:10,040
Stu might feel a little bit

5628
02:15:10,040 --> 02:15:12,300
left out amongst these beards.

5629
02:15:12,300 --> 02:15:14,160
...bearders on the market is

5630
02:15:14,160 --> 02:15:15,600
really most well suited for

5631
02:15:15,600 --> 02:15:16,300
video use.

5632
02:15:16,300 --> 02:15:17,520
Right out of the box, it's

5633
02:15:17,520 --> 02:15:19,300
without any other display cards.

5634
02:15:19,300 --> 02:15:20,740
It's got NTSC video, can

5635
02:15:20,740 --> 02:15:22,900
display 4096 colors at once,

5636
02:15:22,900 --> 02:15:24,580
which is really enough to get a

5637
02:15:24,580 --> 02:15:26,330
photographic quality image on

5638
02:15:26,330 --> 02:15:27,300
the screen.

5639
02:15:27,300 --> 02:15:29,100
Plus, with certain co-processor

5640
02:15:29,100 --> 02:15:30,950
chips and internal circuits, it's

5641
02:15:30,950 --> 02:15:32,300
really a powerhouse.

5642
02:15:32,300 --> 02:15:33,620
It's got the throughput and the

5643
02:15:33,620 --> 02:15:34,860
horsepower to do what we need

5644
02:15:34,860 --> 02:15:35,300
to do.

5645
02:15:35,300 --> 02:15:36,570
And what does your product

5646
02:15:36,570 --> 02:15:37,300
consist of?

5647
02:15:37,300 --> 02:15:39,300
Well, the Video Toaster...

5648
02:15:39,300 --> 02:15:40,300
Video Toaster?

5649
02:15:40,300 --> 02:15:42,110
...is a peripheral that turns

5650
02:15:42,110 --> 02:15:43,560
the Amiga into a professional

5651
02:15:43,560 --> 02:15:44,300
video box.

5652
02:15:44,300 --> 02:15:46,350
This is the product which Kiki

5653
02:15:46,350 --> 02:15:48,580
Stockhammer eventually became

5654
02:15:48,580 --> 02:15:50,300
the centerpiece for.

5655
02:15:50,300 --> 02:15:52,540
She did the Video Toaster

5656
02:15:52,540 --> 02:15:54,300
promotion work.

5657
02:15:54,300 --> 02:15:56,150
So we're seeing the inception

5658
02:15:56,150 --> 02:15:57,300
of a beast here.

5659
02:15:57,300 --> 02:15:59,300
Just a four main section...

5660
02:15:59,300 --> 02:16:00,300
Not Kiki, she's not a beast.

5661
02:16:00,300 --> 02:16:01,600
I'm not at the Video Toaster

5662
02:16:01,600 --> 02:16:02,300
software.

5663
02:16:02,300 --> 02:16:03,300
Is a beast.

5664
02:16:03,300 --> 02:16:05,610
First of all, it's a display

5665
02:16:05,610 --> 02:16:06,300
card.

5666
02:16:06,300 --> 02:16:07,910
And it carries the Amiga past

5667
02:16:07,910 --> 02:16:10,250
4096 colors, so you can display

5668
02:16:10,250 --> 02:16:11,830
really millions of colors on

5669
02:16:11,830 --> 02:16:13,320
the screen at once with more

5670
02:16:13,320 --> 02:16:14,300
resolution.

5671
02:16:14,300 --> 02:16:15,300
And certain Amiga software...

5672
02:16:15,300 --> 02:16:17,060
Just if you're not aware of Kiki,

5673
02:16:17,060 --> 02:16:18,550
I think there's a bit of her in

5674
02:16:18,550 --> 02:16:19,300
this mix.

5675
02:16:19,300 --> 02:16:20,300
If I have the mix.

5676
02:16:20,300 --> 02:16:22,300
Fat 32.

5677
02:16:22,300 --> 02:16:23,300
Fat 32.

5678
02:16:23,300 --> 02:16:24,300
Fat 32.

5679
02:16:24,300 --> 02:16:25,300
Fat 32.

5680
02:16:25,300 --> 02:16:26,300
Fat 32.

5681
02:16:26,300 --> 02:16:27,300
Fat 32.

5682
02:16:27,300 --> 02:16:28,300
Fat 32.

5683
02:16:28,300 --> 02:16:29,300
Fat 32.

5684
02:16:29,300 --> 02:16:30,300
Fat 32.

5685
02:16:30,300 --> 02:16:31,300
Fat 32.

5686
02:16:31,300 --> 02:16:32,300
Fat 32.

5687
02:16:32,300 --> 02:16:33,300
Fat 32.

5688
02:16:33,300 --> 02:16:34,300
Fat 32.

5689
02:16:34,300 --> 02:16:35,300
Just take a look.

5690
02:16:35,300 --> 02:16:36,300
Fat 32.

5691
02:16:36,300 --> 02:16:37,300
Just take a look.

5692
02:16:37,300 --> 02:16:38,300
Fat 32.

5693
02:16:38,300 --> 02:16:39,300
Sucked.

5694
02:16:39,300 --> 02:16:40,300
Fat 32.

5695
02:16:40,300 --> 02:16:41,300
Standby.

5696
02:16:41,300 --> 02:16:42,300
What are the powers?

5697
02:16:42,300 --> 02:16:43,300
Standby.

5698
02:16:43,300 --> 02:16:44,300
What are the powers?

5699
02:16:44,300 --> 02:16:45,300
Standby.

5700
02:16:45,300 --> 02:16:46,300
Fat 32.

5701
02:16:46,300 --> 02:16:47,300
Infamous Kiki stockhammer.

5702
02:16:47,300 --> 02:16:48,300
Fat 32.

5703
02:16:48,300 --> 02:16:49,300
Fat 32.

5704
02:16:49,300 --> 02:16:50,300
Fat 32.

5705
02:16:50,300 --> 02:16:51,300
Fat 32.

5706
02:16:51,300 --> 02:16:52,300
Fat 32.

5707
02:16:52,300 --> 02:16:53,300
Fat 32.

5708
02:16:53,300 --> 02:16:54,300
Fat 32.

5709
02:16:54,300 --> 02:16:55,300
Fat 32.

5710
02:16:55,300 --> 02:16:56,300
Fat 32.

5711
02:16:56,300 --> 02:16:57,300
Fat 32.

5712
02:16:57,300 --> 02:16:58,300
Fat 32.

5713
02:16:58,300 --> 02:16:59,300
Fat 32.

5714
02:16:59,300 --> 02:17:00,300
Fat 32.

5715
02:17:00,300 --> 02:17:01,300
Fat 32.

5716
02:17:01,300 --> 02:17:02,300
Fat 32.

5717
02:17:02,300 --> 02:17:04,300
Infamous Kiki stockhammer.

5718
02:17:04,300 --> 02:17:05,450
Is Chip your real name by the

5719
02:17:05,450 --> 02:17:06,560
way or is that a persona for

5720
02:17:06,560 --> 02:17:07,300
the website?

5721
02:17:07,300 --> 02:17:08,300
No, now it's my real name.

5722
02:17:08,300 --> 02:17:09,300
Thanks a lot Chip.

5723
02:17:09,300 --> 02:17:10,300
Sure thing.

5724
02:17:10,300 --> 02:17:11,300
Website.

5725
02:17:11,300 --> 02:17:12,300
Website.

5726
02:17:12,300 --> 02:17:13,300
Website.

5727
02:17:13,300 --> 02:17:14,300
And that's...

5728
02:17:14,300 --> 02:17:15,300
Data is in the holes.

5729
02:17:15,300 --> 02:17:16,300
It's a computer concept.

5730
02:17:16,300 --> 02:17:17,300
Holes.

5731
02:17:17,300 --> 02:17:18,300
It's a computer concept.

5732
02:17:18,300 --> 02:17:20,300
Not a human concept.

5733
02:17:20,300 --> 02:17:21,720
Well, if the proof is in the

5734
02:17:21,720 --> 02:17:23,530
pudding, the pudding, the power

5735
02:17:23,530 --> 02:17:25,300
is really in the application.

5736
02:17:25,300 --> 02:17:26,300
Okay, that'll go on all day.

5737
02:17:26,300 --> 02:17:27,900
Packages can already take

5738
02:17:27,900 --> 02:17:29,680
advantage of that increased

5739
02:17:29,680 --> 02:17:31,300
resolution and color.

5740
02:17:31,300 --> 02:17:33,050
Second, it's a frame grabber or

5741
02:17:33,050 --> 02:17:34,300
a video digitizer.

5742
02:17:34,300 --> 02:17:36,160
So it can grab frames from a VCR

5743
02:17:36,160 --> 02:17:38,170
or a camera 60 times a second

5744
02:17:38,170 --> 02:17:39,300
in full color.

5745
02:17:39,300 --> 02:17:41,290
You can use that all by itself

5746
02:17:41,290 --> 02:17:43,540
to capture frames for saving on

5747
02:17:43,540 --> 02:17:45,300
disk and later recall.

5748
02:17:45,300 --> 02:17:46,880
You can import the images into

5749
02:17:46,880 --> 02:17:48,500
a paint program and do cut and

5750
02:17:48,500 --> 02:17:50,300
paste operations for example.

5751
02:17:50,300 --> 02:17:51,300
We'll see how it works.

5752
02:17:51,300 --> 02:17:52,300
Okay.

5753
02:17:52,300 --> 02:17:53,300
Let's take a look.

5754
02:17:53,300 --> 02:17:54,600
First of all, we're looking at

5755
02:17:54,600 --> 02:17:55,950
the toaster now displaying live

5756
02:17:55,950 --> 02:17:57,300
video 60 times a second.

5757
02:17:57,300 --> 02:17:58,290
And this is coming off the

5758
02:17:58,290 --> 02:17:59,430
camera that's sitting on our

5759
02:17:59,430 --> 02:18:00,300
desk right here.

5760
02:18:00,300 --> 02:18:01,300
Right.

5761
02:18:01,300 --> 02:18:02,580
The camera runs into the toaster

5762
02:18:02,580 --> 02:18:03,760
and the toaster runs into this

5763
02:18:03,760 --> 02:18:04,300
monitor.

5764
02:18:04,300 --> 02:18:05,330
I can slow down the frame rate

5765
02:18:05,330 --> 02:18:06,130
so you can see that it is

5766
02:18:06,130 --> 02:18:07,300
really capturing images.

5767
02:18:07,300 --> 02:18:08,560
If you want to move your hand

5768
02:18:08,560 --> 02:18:09,700
here you can see that it's

5769
02:18:09,700 --> 02:18:10,300
really.

5770
02:18:10,300 --> 02:18:11,300
A little delay there.

5771
02:18:11,300 --> 02:18:12,300
Yeah.

5772
02:18:12,300 --> 02:18:13,300
A little delay there.

5773
02:18:13,300 --> 02:18:14,300
Some of the effects it can do.

5774
02:18:14,300 --> 02:18:15,300
A little delay there.

5775
02:18:15,300 --> 02:18:16,300
Yeah.

5776
02:18:16,300 --> 02:18:19,280
Okay, some of the effects it

5777
02:18:19,280 --> 02:18:20,300
can do.

5778
02:18:20,300 --> 02:18:23,300
This is tumbling around the x-axis.

5779
02:18:23,300 --> 02:18:25,300
Tumbling around the y-axis.

5780
02:18:25,300 --> 02:18:26,300
Beautiful.

5781
02:18:26,300 --> 02:18:27,300
This is a zoom.

5782
02:18:27,300 --> 02:18:29,420
These are typically effects

5783
02:18:29,420 --> 02:18:31,420
that would cost would be a TV

5784
02:18:31,420 --> 02:18:32,300
studio.

5785
02:18:32,300 --> 02:18:34,040
It would cost a lot of time, a

5786
02:18:34,040 --> 02:18:35,300
lot of manpower.

5787
02:18:35,300 --> 02:18:37,410
And now we can all do it just

5788
02:18:37,410 --> 02:18:38,300
at home.

5789
02:18:38,300 --> 02:18:39,600
He's going to say something to

5790
02:18:39,600 --> 02:18:40,300
that effect.

5791
02:18:40,300 --> 02:18:41,550
Very expensive if you hadn't

5792
02:18:41,550 --> 02:18:42,790
been to be a boobie broadcast

5793
02:18:42,790 --> 02:18:44,300
by a quality kind of material.

5794
02:18:44,300 --> 02:18:45,300
Mm-hmm.

5795
02:18:45,300 --> 02:18:46,300
Lovely stuff.

5796
02:18:46,300 --> 02:18:47,300
He's just so nice.

5797
02:18:47,300 --> 02:18:49,020
He could be a shark if he

5798
02:18:49,020 --> 02:18:50,300
wanted to be.

5799
02:18:50,300 --> 02:18:51,890
If you hadn't been to be a boobie

5800
02:18:51,890 --> 02:18:53,460
broadcast by a quality kind of

5801
02:18:53,460 --> 02:18:54,300
material.

5802
02:18:54,300 --> 02:18:55,300
Mm-hmm.

5803
02:18:55,300 --> 02:18:56,910
The effects might cost $20,000

5804
02:18:56,910 --> 02:18:58,300
on up to $300,000.

5805
02:18:58,300 --> 02:19:00,300
To do with traditional video.

5806
02:19:00,300 --> 02:19:01,800
In fairness to Johnny Hay, he

5807
02:19:01,800 --> 02:19:03,300
has a chip on his shoulder.

5808
02:19:03,300 --> 02:19:04,300
Leases down a bag of chips.

5809
02:19:04,300 --> 02:19:05,300
A bag of chips.

5810
02:19:06,300 --> 02:19:09,340
Uh, thank you very much there,

5811
02:19:09,340 --> 02:19:10,300
MTSCB.

5812
02:19:10,300 --> 02:19:11,300
Thank you very much.

5813
02:19:11,300 --> 02:19:13,300
Clean box, toast box.

5814
02:19:13,300 --> 02:19:15,300
You say, thank you very much.

5815
02:19:15,300 --> 02:19:16,300
Video equipment.

5816
02:19:16,300 --> 02:19:17,600
And, uh, Garrett says, "Do you

5817
02:19:17,600 --> 02:19:19,200
think people had these watch-alongs

5818
02:19:19,200 --> 02:19:20,300
back in the '80s?

5819
02:19:20,300 --> 02:19:22,280
Except they were absolutely floored

5820
02:19:22,280 --> 02:19:23,600
by Stu's blistering new tech

5821
02:19:23,600 --> 02:19:24,300
reveals."

5822
02:19:24,300 --> 02:19:25,300
I don't think so.

5823
02:19:25,300 --> 02:19:26,300
I'd say it went under the radar.

5824
02:19:26,300 --> 02:19:27,300
People just watched the show.

5825
02:19:27,300 --> 02:19:28,760
Or if people were involved in

5826
02:19:28,760 --> 02:19:30,180
the making of the show, they

5827
02:19:30,180 --> 02:19:31,300
probably just knew, "We're

5828
02:19:31,300 --> 02:19:31,300
witnessing

5829
02:19:31,300 --> 02:19:34,300
something here which is just unparalleled."

5830
02:19:34,300 --> 02:19:35,300
This is a moving blind effect.

5831
02:19:35,300 --> 02:19:36,040
Nobody else was doing it like

5832
02:19:36,040 --> 02:19:36,300
this.

5833
02:19:36,300 --> 02:19:38,800
Nobody was doing it at all, you

5834
02:19:38,800 --> 02:19:39,300
know?

5835
02:19:39,300 --> 02:19:40,300
How are you, Wendy?

5836
02:19:40,300 --> 02:19:42,300
Thank you very much for the tip.

5837
02:19:42,300 --> 02:19:44,300
Here's a quad mosaic.

5838
02:19:44,300 --> 02:19:46,300
Quad mosaic.

5839
02:19:46,300 --> 02:19:47,730
And then, uh, it's kind of a

5840
02:19:47,730 --> 02:19:49,300
kaleidoscope effect there.

5841
02:19:49,300 --> 02:19:51,300
This is a 16-level mosaic.

5842
02:19:51,300 --> 02:19:53,140
And I hope that you kind of got

5843
02:19:53,140 --> 02:19:55,150
there with the Stockhammer mix

5844
02:19:55,150 --> 02:19:56,300
that I...

5845
02:19:56,300 --> 02:19:58,060
Kind of did a video toaster

5846
02:19:58,060 --> 02:20:00,140
montage of Stockhammer as well

5847
02:20:00,140 --> 02:20:02,300
to complement the fact that she

5848
02:20:02,300 --> 02:20:04,300
was a video toaster head.

5849
02:20:04,300 --> 02:20:06,300
We can do a receding mosaic.

5850
02:20:06,300 --> 02:20:08,300
It's kind of interesting.

5851
02:20:08,300 --> 02:20:09,300
That's nice.

5852
02:20:09,300 --> 02:20:11,300
And zoom in.

5853
02:20:11,300 --> 02:20:12,420
And we can do what we call an

5854
02:20:12,420 --> 02:20:13,300
infinity slide.

5855
02:20:13,300 --> 02:20:15,300
Infinity slide.

5856
02:20:15,300 --> 02:20:16,920
Infinity mirror effect you'd

5857
02:20:16,920 --> 02:20:18,300
see at the barber shop.

5858
02:20:18,300 --> 02:20:19,300
This is great.

5859
02:20:19,300 --> 02:20:20,300
Here's a mirror effect.

5860
02:20:20,300 --> 02:20:21,300
That's what you want to see.

5861
02:20:21,300 --> 02:20:23,300
Two stews in one frame.

5862
02:20:23,300 --> 02:20:24,740
Both of them looking at each

5863
02:20:24,740 --> 02:20:25,300
other.

5864
02:20:25,300 --> 02:20:26,300
And it's ready to stew.

5865
02:20:26,300 --> 02:20:28,300
Reflected around the center.

5866
02:20:28,300 --> 02:20:30,300
This is called pixelization.

5867
02:20:30,300 --> 02:20:31,540
It's a very popular effect in

5868
02:20:31,540 --> 02:20:32,300
commercials.

5869
02:20:32,300 --> 02:20:33,520
It gives it kind of a high-tech

5870
02:20:33,520 --> 02:20:34,300
computer look.

5871
02:20:34,300 --> 02:20:36,300
This is called a push-on.

5872
02:20:36,300 --> 02:20:37,530
This is used widely as a

5873
02:20:37,530 --> 02:20:39,080
transition from one scene to

5874
02:20:39,080 --> 02:20:40,300
another in a video.

5875
02:20:40,300 --> 02:20:41,980
The picture flying around on

5876
02:20:41,980 --> 02:20:43,520
the screen is an example of

5877
02:20:43,520 --> 02:20:45,240
what a TV engineer would call

5878
02:20:45,240 --> 02:20:46,300
an ADO effect.

5879
02:20:46,300 --> 02:20:48,280
And this is, you would pay a

5880
02:20:48,280 --> 02:20:50,270
lot of money to get this kind

5881
02:20:50,270 --> 02:20:51,300
of effect.

5882
02:20:51,300 --> 02:20:52,840
Another ADO type effect is the

5883
02:20:52,840 --> 02:20:54,200
sphere, which is usually

5884
02:20:54,200 --> 02:20:55,870
reserved for the very expensive

5885
02:20:55,870 --> 02:20:57,300
broadcast equipment.

5886
02:20:57,300 --> 02:20:58,740
The beauty of the toaster is

5887
02:20:58,740 --> 02:21:00,580
that these are all software-based

5888
02:21:00,580 --> 02:21:01,300
effects.

5889
02:21:01,300 --> 02:21:02,790
So the more software we write

5890
02:21:02,790 --> 02:21:04,160
for the toaster, the more

5891
02:21:04,160 --> 02:21:05,300
effects it'll do.

5892
02:21:05,300 --> 02:21:06,300
Paul...

5893
02:21:06,300 --> 02:21:07,300
The sound of that mouse.

5894
02:21:07,300 --> 02:21:08,300
...facts.

5895
02:21:08,300 --> 02:21:09,420
So the more software we write

5896
02:21:09,420 --> 02:21:10,460
for the toaster, the more

5897
02:21:10,460 --> 02:21:11,300
effects it'll do.

5898
02:21:11,300 --> 02:21:13,520
It's a real push-and-click

5899
02:21:13,520 --> 02:21:14,300
affair.

5900
02:21:14,300 --> 02:21:17,300
And your man really is very morose,

5901
02:21:17,300 --> 02:21:20,000
low energy, bringing the facts

5902
02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:22,500
and the details to our ears and

5903
02:21:22,500 --> 02:21:23,300
eyes.

5904
02:21:23,300 --> 02:21:24,820
But without any pizzazz, you

5905
02:21:24,820 --> 02:21:25,300
know.

5906
02:21:25,300 --> 02:21:27,370
And that's why Stockhammer had

5907
02:21:27,370 --> 02:21:29,530
to be parachuted in, in a few

5908
02:21:29,530 --> 02:21:30,990
years' time, to really just

5909
02:21:30,990 --> 02:21:32,300
lift the piece.

5910
02:21:32,300 --> 02:21:33,410
Paul, who's the customer for

5911
02:21:33,410 --> 02:21:34,300
this kind of a board?

5912
02:21:34,300 --> 02:21:35,640
Well, the customer is one of

5913
02:21:35,640 --> 02:21:37,210
the 7 million camcorder owners

5914
02:21:37,210 --> 02:21:38,300
in the US right now.

5915
02:21:38,300 --> 02:21:40,300
It is education.

5916
02:21:40,300 --> 02:21:41,980
It is corporate sales and

5917
02:21:41,980 --> 02:21:43,300
training tapes.

5918
02:21:43,300 --> 02:21:44,910
It's anyone who really has an

5919
02:21:44,910 --> 02:21:46,520
interest in video or a need to

5920
02:21:46,520 --> 02:21:47,300
do video.

5921
02:21:47,300 --> 02:21:48,610
This will give them that slick

5922
02:21:48,610 --> 02:21:50,030
television look that people are

5923
02:21:50,030 --> 02:21:51,300
becoming accustomed to.

5924
02:21:51,300 --> 02:21:52,500
So, for example, if you have a

5925
02:21:52,500 --> 02:21:53,770
small business and I wanted to,

5926
02:21:53,770 --> 02:21:55,300
you know, have video in my PR

5927
02:21:55,300 --> 02:21:57,120
department, then I could build

5928
02:21:57,120 --> 02:21:58,300
myself, right?

5929
02:21:58,300 --> 02:21:59,300
Absolutely right.

5930
02:21:59,300 --> 02:22:00,800
You don't see this right now,

5931
02:22:00,800 --> 02:22:02,370
replacing things like ADOs and

5932
02:22:02,370 --> 02:22:04,070
professional quality broadcast

5933
02:22:04,070 --> 02:22:05,300
effects equipment.

5934
02:22:05,300 --> 02:22:06,300
Do you or do you, Tim?

5935
02:22:06,300 --> 02:22:07,830
Well, I do because even if a

5936
02:22:07,830 --> 02:22:09,930
station has these very high-quality

5937
02:22:09,930 --> 02:22:11,820
units, they're typically a kind

5938
02:22:11,820 --> 02:22:13,300
of a precious resource.

5939
02:22:13,300 --> 02:22:14,810
And you have to line up to use

5940
02:22:14,810 --> 02:22:15,300
them.

5941
02:22:15,300 --> 02:22:16,430
And if you're renting time on

5942
02:22:16,430 --> 02:22:17,880
them, it's typically $300 an

5943
02:22:17,880 --> 02:22:19,300
hour for the really top stuff.

5944
02:22:19,300 --> 02:22:21,100
So now a small ad agency has

5945
02:22:21,100 --> 02:22:23,300
access to this sort of thing.

5946
02:22:23,300 --> 02:22:24,560
And even a TV news department

5947
02:22:24,560 --> 02:22:25,810
has to line up for this sort of

5948
02:22:25,810 --> 02:22:26,300
thing.

5949
02:22:26,300 --> 02:22:27,910
Now they could get those

5950
02:22:27,910 --> 02:22:29,300
effects very cheaply.

5951
02:22:29,300 --> 02:22:30,300
What would the next steps be?

5952
02:22:30,300 --> 02:22:31,560
What are the things you're

5953
02:22:31,560 --> 02:22:33,220
trying to add to the video toasters

5954
02:22:33,220 --> 02:22:34,300
as you improve it?

5955
02:22:34,300 --> 02:22:36,270
We've got a number of add-on

5956
02:22:36,270 --> 02:22:38,300
products planned for it.

5957
02:22:38,300 --> 02:22:40,060
We'd really like to get the

5958
02:22:40,060 --> 02:22:42,220
entire production process into

5959
02:22:42,220 --> 02:22:43,300
a single box.

5960
02:22:43,300 --> 02:22:44,300
Box.

5961
02:22:44,300 --> 02:22:45,230
And we're working on all the

5962
02:22:45,230 --> 02:22:46,300
remaining bits and pieces.

5963
02:22:46,300 --> 02:22:47,300
Hmm.

5964
02:22:47,300 --> 02:22:48,300
Just a box.

5965
02:22:48,300 --> 02:22:49,210
...is to do that so we can

5966
02:22:49,210 --> 02:22:50,300
really truly have desktop video.

5967
02:22:50,300 --> 02:22:51,640
When you say desktop video,

5968
02:22:51,640 --> 02:22:52,920
that's obviously sort of an

5969
02:22:52,920 --> 02:22:53,980
analogy to the desktop

5970
02:22:53,980 --> 02:22:55,300
publishing situation.

5971
02:22:55,300 --> 02:22:56,470
Paul, what do you really mean

5972
02:22:56,470 --> 02:22:57,300
by desktop video?

5973
02:22:57,300 --> 02:22:59,090
Desktop video is the marriage

5974
02:22:59,090 --> 02:23:01,300
of personal computers and video.

5975
02:23:01,300 --> 02:23:02,780
So it gives a much more

5976
02:23:02,780 --> 02:23:04,620
professional quality to

5977
02:23:04,620 --> 02:23:06,870
equipment that traditionally is

5978
02:23:06,870 --> 02:23:08,300
very expensive.

5979
02:23:08,300 --> 02:23:09,800
Using the computer technology,

5980
02:23:09,800 --> 02:23:11,300
you can do it now fairly cheap.

5981
02:23:11,300 --> 02:23:12,110
Do you think the consumer is

5982
02:23:12,110 --> 02:23:12,920
going to really be doing the

5983
02:23:12,920 --> 02:23:13,800
full editing in their home in

5984
02:23:13,800 --> 02:23:14,300
the future?

5985
02:23:14,300 --> 02:23:15,300
If it's easy enough.

5986
02:23:15,300 --> 02:23:16,300
Yeah.

5987
02:23:16,300 --> 02:23:16,780
And that's what we've really

5988
02:23:16,780 --> 02:23:17,300
tried to keep in the system.

5989
02:23:17,300 --> 02:23:18,300
You see that trend?

5990
02:23:18,300 --> 02:23:19,300
Yes, absolutely.

5991
02:23:19,300 --> 02:23:20,420
What's the toaster package

5992
02:23:20,420 --> 02:23:21,300
consist of, Tim?

5993
02:23:21,300 --> 02:23:22,400
I mean, what do you get and how

5994
02:23:22,400 --> 02:23:23,300
much does this cost?

5995
02:23:23,300 --> 02:23:25,860
Well, for a whole system you

5996
02:23:25,860 --> 02:23:28,500
would need a VCR, a camera or a

5997
02:23:28,500 --> 02:23:32,290
camcorder, the Amiga and the toaster

5998
02:23:32,290 --> 02:23:33,300
card.

5999
02:23:33,300 --> 02:23:34,820
All told, you would pay

6000
02:23:34,820 --> 02:23:37,250
somewhere around $2,000 for

6001
02:23:37,250 --> 02:23:38,300
everything.

6002
02:23:38,300 --> 02:23:39,410
And how about the toaster

6003
02:23:39,410 --> 02:23:40,300
product itself?

6004
02:23:40,300 --> 02:23:41,300
I mean, what is that?

6005
02:23:41,300 --> 02:23:42,470
The toaster itself is listed

6006
02:23:42,470 --> 02:23:43,300
for $7.99.

6007
02:23:43,300 --> 02:23:44,300
And that's a board?

6008
02:23:44,300 --> 02:23:45,800
It's a board that goes into the

6009
02:23:45,800 --> 02:23:46,300
Amiga.

6010
02:23:46,300 --> 02:23:47,650
Do you see some combination, as

6011
02:23:47,650 --> 02:23:48,850
Gary mentioned, we've seen

6012
02:23:48,850 --> 02:23:50,150
music and we've seen animation

6013
02:23:50,150 --> 02:23:51,300
so far in this program now,

6014
02:23:51,300 --> 02:23:53,530
video, of really taking these

6015
02:23:53,530 --> 02:23:55,210
things together and going into

6016
02:23:55,210 --> 02:23:57,030
a real comprehensive, creative

6017
02:23:57,030 --> 02:23:58,300
work environment?

6018
02:23:58,300 --> 02:23:59,300
Absolutely.

6019
02:23:59,300 --> 02:24:00,300
Yeah.

6020
02:24:00,300 --> 02:24:01,340
And are you guys working on

6021
02:24:01,340 --> 02:24:02,290
that in any direction or

6022
02:24:02,290 --> 02:24:03,300
working with other?

6023
02:24:03,300 --> 02:24:04,800
We're working on an NTSC paint

6024
02:24:04,800 --> 02:24:06,180
program that would take the

6025
02:24:06,180 --> 02:24:07,680
output of this and manipulate

6026
02:24:07,680 --> 02:24:09,120
it in millions of colors, an

6027
02:24:09,120 --> 02:24:10,680
animation product, a titling

6028
02:24:10,680 --> 02:24:11,300
product.

6029
02:24:11,300 --> 02:24:12,300
So I see that.

6030
02:24:12,300 --> 02:24:13,420
And it's also compatible with

6031
02:24:13,420 --> 02:24:14,300
all Amiga software.

6032
02:24:14,300 --> 02:24:15,070
Okay, gentlemen, thank you very

6033
02:24:15,070 --> 02:24:15,300
much.

6034
02:24:15,300 --> 02:24:16,800
That's our look at the Commodore

6035
02:24:16,800 --> 02:24:17,300
Amiga.

6036
02:24:17,300 --> 02:24:18,300
Class.

6037
02:24:18,300 --> 02:24:19,090
Hope we'll see you here again

6038
02:24:19,090 --> 02:24:20,300
next week on the Computer Chronicles.

6039
02:24:20,300 --> 02:24:21,300
We will.

6040
02:24:21,300 --> 02:24:22,300
We will.

6041
02:24:22,300 --> 02:24:23,300
We will be here with bells on.

6042
02:24:23,300 --> 02:24:26,160
Time for Random Access, the

6043
02:24:26,160 --> 02:24:28,350
weekly roundup of news

6044
02:24:28,350 --> 02:24:31,300
presented by Stu, maybe.

6045
02:24:31,300 --> 02:24:32,300
Yes.

6046
02:24:32,300 --> 02:24:33,090
In the Random Access file this

6047
02:24:33,090 --> 02:24:33,300
week.

6048
02:24:33,300 --> 02:24:34,300
Yes.

6049
02:24:37,300 --> 02:24:38,300
It will never catch on.

6050
02:24:38,300 --> 02:24:38,300
On board, not board, thank you

6051
02:24:38,300 --> 02:24:38,300
very much.

6052
02:24:38,300 --> 02:24:38,610
Advanced Graphic Applications

6053
02:24:38,610 --> 02:24:38,800
of New York says it will

6054
02:24:38,800 --> 02:24:39,070
actually ship its system this

6055
02:24:39,070 --> 02:24:39,300
November.

6056
02:24:39,300 --> 02:24:39,940
And the New York Times is a new

6057
02:24:39,940 --> 02:24:40,300
company.

6058
02:24:40,300 --> 02:24:41,300
It will never catch on.

6059
02:24:41,300 --> 02:24:41,300
On board, not board, thank you

6060
02:24:41,300 --> 02:24:41,300
very much.

6061
02:24:41,300 --> 02:24:43,060
ready to deliver the headlines.

6062
02:24:43,980 --> 02:24:45,000
I'd like to have seen students

6063
02:24:45,000 --> 02:24:46,640
deliver the news headlines of

6064
02:24:46,640 --> 02:24:47,540
the day even.

6065
02:24:48,240 --> 02:24:49,500
Not just this tech stuff.

6066
02:24:50,640 --> 02:24:52,070
In the random access file this

6067
02:24:52,070 --> 02:24:52,720
week,

6068
02:24:52,800 --> 02:24:53,780
yet another company has

6069
02:24:53,780 --> 02:24:55,750
announced a rewritable optical

6070
02:24:55,750 --> 02:24:57,820
disk storage system for PCs.

6071
02:24:58,340 --> 02:24:59,200
But this time...

6072
02:24:59,200 --> 02:25:00,780
It'll never catch on.

6073
02:25:01,420 --> 02:25:02,560
On board, not board, thank you

6074
02:25:02,560 --> 02:25:03,320
very much.

6075
02:25:03,340 --> 02:25:04,740
Advanced Graphic Applications

6076
02:25:04,740 --> 02:25:05,260
of New York

6077
02:25:05,260 --> 02:25:06,690
says it will actually ship its

6078
02:25:06,690 --> 02:25:07,940
system this November.

6079
02:25:07,940 --> 02:25:09,880
The rewritable laser disk drive

6080
02:25:09,880 --> 02:25:11,650
will have 650 megabytes

6081
02:25:11,650 --> 02:25:12,240
capacity

6082
02:25:12,240 --> 02:25:14,580
and use 5.25-inch disks.

6083
02:25:14,920 --> 02:25:16,140
The company says the drive will

6084
02:25:16,140 --> 02:25:17,450
operate as a standard DOS

6085
02:25:17,450 --> 02:25:18,200
peripheral.

6086
02:25:18,560 --> 02:25:20,240
The price is $5,000.

6087
02:25:20,700 --> 02:25:21,280
Standard DOS.

6088
02:25:21,300 --> 02:25:22,700
Apple says it'll be coming out

6089
02:25:22,700 --> 02:25:24,370
with a fix for its new version

6090
02:25:24,370 --> 02:25:25,020
6.0

6091
02:25:25,020 --> 02:25:26,240
of the Mac operating system

6092
02:25:26,240 --> 02:25:26,840
software.

6093
02:25:27,220 --> 02:25:29,050
The new version, dubbed 6.01,

6094
02:25:29,050 --> 02:25:30,200
is due out any day.

6095
02:25:30,520 --> 02:25:32,150
A variety of bugs showed up in

6096
02:25:32,150 --> 02:25:33,100
6.0,

6097
02:25:33,100 --> 02:25:35,030
and the new release contains 19

6098
02:25:35,030 --> 02:25:36,760
patches that reportedly correct

6099
02:25:36,760 --> 02:25:37,700
the problems.

6100
02:25:37,700 --> 02:25:39,510
Software maker Broderbund has

6101
02:25:39,510 --> 02:25:41,460
announced a new venture with 11

6102
02:25:41,460 --> 02:25:42,620
Japanese partners

6103
02:25:42,620 --> 02:25:44,550
to convert successful Japanese

6104
02:25:44,550 --> 02:25:46,230
software titles to popular

6105
02:25:46,230 --> 02:25:47,940
American computer formats.

6106
02:25:48,280 --> 02:25:49,710
The new joint venture, called

6107
02:25:49,710 --> 02:25:51,360
Kyodai Software, will be based

6108
02:25:51,360 --> 02:25:53,060
in San Rafael, California.

6109
02:25:53,240 --> 02:25:53,760
Kyodai.

6110
02:25:53,760 --> 02:25:55,350
Promising 12 new software

6111
02:25:55,350 --> 02:25:56,820
titles in the first year.

6112
02:25:57,000 --> 02:25:57,580
Kyodai.

6113
02:25:57,680 --> 02:25:59,420
Symantec, most well known for

6114
02:25:59,420 --> 02:26:01,560
its MS-DOS program, such as Q&A.

6115
02:26:01,560 --> 02:26:03,560
And now, antivirus.

6116
02:26:03,660 --> 02:26:06,460
Still doing stuff even today.

6117
02:26:06,600 --> 02:26:08,080
Has unveiled five new software

6118
02:26:08,080 --> 02:26:09,600
packages for the Macintosh.

6119
02:26:10,020 --> 02:26:11,370
The programs include a planning,

6120
02:26:11,370 --> 02:26:12,840
writing, and presentation

6121
02:26:12,840 --> 02:26:14,280
package called More 2,

6122
02:26:14,600 --> 02:26:15,940
an electronic mail system

6123
02:26:15,940 --> 02:26:16,920
called Inbox,

6124
02:26:17,160 --> 02:26:19,060
and three program development

6125
02:26:19,060 --> 02:26:20,960
packages in C and Pascal.

6126
02:26:21,600 --> 02:26:22,850
Time for this week's software

6127
02:26:22,850 --> 02:26:23,340
review.

6128
02:26:23,600 --> 02:26:24,440
Here's Paul Schindler.

6129
02:26:24,880 --> 02:26:25,240
Yes!

6130
02:26:26,020 --> 02:26:26,320
Ah!

6131
02:26:27,300 --> 02:26:28,170
Fucking hell, they're hitting

6132
02:26:28,170 --> 02:26:28,560
us.

6133
02:26:28,640 --> 02:26:30,010
In 1988, they're hitting us

6134
02:26:30,010 --> 02:26:30,920
with the Schindler.

6135
02:26:31,640 --> 02:26:32,960
I didn't need, I didn't expect

6136
02:26:32,960 --> 02:26:33,560
this.

6137
02:26:34,280 --> 02:26:35,400
Then again, he's been in the

6138
02:26:35,400 --> 02:26:37,030
studio plenty of times to

6139
02:26:37,030 --> 02:26:39,500
deliver little bits and pieces,

6140
02:26:39,900 --> 02:26:41,860
especially around the holiday

6141
02:26:41,860 --> 02:26:42,460
season.

6142
02:26:44,260 --> 02:26:44,930
You know, with his holiday

6143
02:26:44,930 --> 02:26:46,620
buyer's guide.

6144
02:26:47,180 --> 02:26:49,050
But I love this situation right

6145
02:26:49,050 --> 02:26:49,740
here.

6146
02:26:49,820 --> 02:26:51,760
This is, uh, this is classic

6147
02:26:51,760 --> 02:26:53,540
Schindler right here.

6148
02:26:54,020 --> 02:26:55,310
And it's a beard, again, the

6149
02:26:55,310 --> 02:26:55,920
beard.

6150
02:26:56,580 --> 02:26:57,640
You know, a blank spreadsheet

6151
02:26:57,640 --> 02:26:59,490
can be anything, but above all,

6152
02:26:59,490 --> 02:27:00,840
it's intimidating.

6153
02:27:01,140 --> 02:27:02,330
It is, in short, a tool so

6154
02:27:02,330 --> 02:27:04,020
flexible that it's useless,

6155
02:27:04,220 --> 02:27:05,020
kind of like a personal

6156
02:27:05,020 --> 02:27:06,480
computer without software.

6157
02:27:07,200 --> 02:27:08,720
Microsoft Excel can sometimes

6158
02:27:08,720 --> 02:27:09,890
seem that way, as can any

6159
02:27:09,890 --> 02:27:11,040
electronic spreadsheet.

6160
02:27:11,460 --> 02:27:12,020
What do you do?

6161
02:27:12,160 --> 02:27:13,200
And there's the turn.

6162
02:27:14,460 --> 02:27:15,060
Microsoft...

6163
02:27:15,060 --> 02:27:17,720
We were only just kind of, you

6164
02:27:17,720 --> 02:27:19,740
know, in the door.

6165
02:27:19,860 --> 02:27:20,700
He's looking at us, and he's

6166
02:27:20,700 --> 02:27:21,660
going to go back to work.

6167
02:27:21,740 --> 02:27:24,150
But then, the warming embrace

6168
02:27:24,150 --> 02:27:26,300
when he does the swivel.

6169
02:27:26,300 --> 02:27:27,470
Microsoft Excel can sometimes

6170
02:27:27,470 --> 02:27:28,400
seem that way, as can any

6171
02:27:28,400 --> 02:27:29,560
electronic spreadsheet.

6172
02:27:30,120 --> 02:27:33,100
Now we're in his room with him.

6173
02:27:33,340 --> 02:27:34,610
Thank you very much there, up

6174
02:27:34,610 --> 02:27:35,140
the dobs.

6175
02:27:35,820 --> 02:27:38,920
Very, very, kind of intravenous

6176
02:27:38,920 --> 02:27:42,140
Japanese animation ODSD for PC.

6177
02:27:42,720 --> 02:27:43,080
Delicious.

6178
02:27:43,700 --> 02:27:44,420
You do with the...

6179
02:27:44,420 --> 02:27:45,800
Microsoft Excel can sometimes

6180
02:27:45,800 --> 02:27:46,920
seem that way, as can any

6181
02:27:46,920 --> 02:27:48,220
electronic spreadsheet.

6182
02:27:48,520 --> 02:27:49,630
What do you do with the blank

6183
02:27:49,630 --> 02:27:50,220
screen?

6184
02:27:50,700 --> 02:27:52,060
Enter Hyzer Software.

6185
02:27:52,600 --> 02:27:52,960
Hyzer.

6186
02:27:52,960 --> 02:27:54,310
$40, you get a floppy in a

6187
02:27:54,310 --> 02:27:56,030
catalog listing more than 500

6188
02:27:56,030 --> 02:27:57,740
templates and macros, which can

6189
02:27:57,740 --> 02:27:58,810
help you figure out how to make

6190
02:27:58,810 --> 02:28:00,060
the most of your spreadsheet.

6191
02:28:00,280 --> 02:28:01,960
$40, you get a floppy in a

6192
02:28:01,960 --> 02:28:02,820
catalog.

6193
02:28:03,060 --> 02:28:04,860
Like this guided tour of Excel,

6194
02:28:04,860 --> 02:28:06,920
it's self-written in Excel.

6195
02:28:07,500 --> 02:28:08,210
It shows you how you can take

6196
02:28:08,210 --> 02:28:09,560
advantage of the software's

6197
02:28:09,560 --> 02:28:10,040
power.

6198
02:28:10,580 --> 02:28:11,590
Or, there's this income tax

6199
02:28:11,590 --> 02:28:13,150
worksheet template from the

6200
02:28:13,150 --> 02:28:14,060
sample disk.

6201
02:28:14,440 --> 02:28:16,620
Exciting stuff, doing your tax.

6202
02:28:16,620 --> 02:28:17,540
Beats writing your own from

6203
02:28:17,540 --> 02:28:17,980
scratch.

6204
02:28:18,120 --> 02:28:18,560
Sure does.

6205
02:28:18,620 --> 02:28:19,910
Each of these came from another

6206
02:28:19,910 --> 02:28:21,140
user, like you, who felt it

6207
02:28:21,140 --> 02:28:22,040
would be useful.

6208
02:28:22,420 --> 02:28:23,280
They sent it to Hyzer, who

6209
02:28:23,280 --> 02:28:25,200
charges customers from $5 to $50

6210
02:28:25,200 --> 02:28:26,560
and shares the proceeds with

6211
02:28:26,560 --> 02:28:27,460
the authors.

6212
02:28:27,900 --> 02:28:29,020
So, spend $4 for the sample

6213
02:28:29,020 --> 02:28:30,440
disk or see if Hyzer wants to

6214
02:28:30,440 --> 02:28:32,100
distribute your template.

6215
02:28:32,480 --> 02:28:33,510
Microsoft Excel templates from

6216
02:28:33,510 --> 02:28:35,000
Hyzer Software in Pleasant Hill,

6217
02:28:35,000 --> 02:28:35,760
California.

6218
02:28:35,760 --> 02:28:37,430
For the Computer Chronicles, I'm

6219
02:28:37,430 --> 02:28:38,440
Paul Schindler.

6220
02:28:39,140 --> 02:28:40,040
The new video display safety

6221
02:28:40,040 --> 02:28:42,090
law in Suffolk County, New York,

6222
02:28:42,090 --> 02:28:43,290
has gotten lots of press

6223
02:28:43,290 --> 02:28:44,580
attention lately.

6224
02:28:44,960 --> 02:28:46,590
But last week, 9X threatened

6225
02:28:46,590 --> 02:28:47,990
that it would close its

6226
02:28:47,990 --> 02:28:50,090
directory assistance operation

6227
02:28:50,090 --> 02:28:51,880
on Long Island because of the

6228
02:28:51,880 --> 02:28:52,880
new VDT law.

6229
02:28:53,320 --> 02:28:54,220
9X says the law imposes

6230
02:28:54,220 --> 02:28:55,570
unnecessary costs on the

6231
02:28:55,570 --> 02:28:57,310
company, which would have to be

6232
02:28:57,310 --> 02:28:58,840
passed on to consumers.

6233
02:28:58,840 --> 02:29:00,600
The Suffolk County VDT law

6234
02:29:00,600 --> 02:29:02,710
requires employers to provide

6235
02:29:02,710 --> 02:29:04,870
visual rest breaks, non-glare

6236
02:29:04,870 --> 02:29:07,080
screens, and free eye care.

6237
02:29:08,040 --> 02:29:08,460
Computer researchers at

6238
02:29:08,460 --> 02:29:10,240
Carnegie Mellon University say

6239
02:29:10,240 --> 02:29:11,570
they've come up with a new

6240
02:29:11,570 --> 02:29:12,820
sophisticated speech

6241
02:29:12,820 --> 02:29:14,040
recognition system

6242
02:29:14,040 --> 02:29:15,860
that can understand any human

6243
02:29:15,860 --> 02:29:17,590
voice speaking at a normal,

6244
02:29:17,590 --> 02:29:18,520
rapid rate.

6245
02:29:18,960 --> 02:29:19,760
The system...

6246
02:29:19,760 --> 02:29:21,000
JD, thank you very much.

6247
02:29:21,000 --> 02:29:21,660
...is called Sphinx.

6248
02:29:21,880 --> 02:29:23,520
It currently has a 1,000-word

6249
02:29:23,520 --> 02:29:24,280
vocabulary.

6250
02:29:25,280 --> 02:29:26,300
Finally, scientists...

6251
02:29:26,300 --> 02:29:27,140
Size of that.

6252
02:29:27,260 --> 02:29:28,700
They've made one in the 80s

6253
02:29:28,700 --> 02:29:30,050
that mustn't have ever taken

6254
02:29:30,050 --> 02:29:30,440
off.

6255
02:29:30,960 --> 02:29:32,560
A handheld computer.

6256
02:29:32,700 --> 02:29:34,390
I can imagine having a bit of a

6257
02:29:34,390 --> 02:29:36,300
slog trying to fucking type in

6258
02:29:36,300 --> 02:29:37,920
on your QWERTY there.

6259
02:29:38,780 --> 02:29:40,260
You would need very small...

6260
02:29:40,260 --> 02:29:41,200
You'd have to go at it with

6261
02:29:41,200 --> 02:29:41,680
needles.

6262
02:29:42,600 --> 02:29:43,080
Or something.

6263
02:29:43,440 --> 02:29:43,740
Maybe.

6264
02:29:43,960 --> 02:29:44,640
I'm not sure.

6265
02:29:44,940 --> 02:29:45,850
And nowadays, an image like

6266
02:29:45,850 --> 02:29:47,340
that would have been made by AI.

6267
02:29:47,340 --> 02:29:48,340
But...

6268
02:29:48,340 --> 02:29:49,740
You have to think...

6269
02:29:49,740 --> 02:29:50,980
I wonder if that's Stu's arm.

6270
02:29:51,940 --> 02:29:53,520
The very hairy cornflake.

6271
02:29:54,680 --> 02:29:56,150
Whoever it was that was the

6272
02:29:56,150 --> 02:29:57,620
test subject for that.

6273
02:29:57,620 --> 02:29:59,050
The Hughes Research Lab in

6274
02:29:59,050 --> 02:30:00,350
California say they've

6275
02:30:00,350 --> 02:30:02,090
developed a prototype for the

6276
02:30:02,090 --> 02:30:03,870
first three-dimensional stacked

6277
02:30:03,870 --> 02:30:05,120
microprocessor.

6278
02:30:05,120 --> 02:30:06,850
The chunk of silicon is about

6279
02:30:06,850 --> 02:30:08,660
the size of a tuna fish can.

6280
02:30:08,660 --> 02:30:11,410
It includes 1,024 separate

6281
02:30:11,410 --> 02:30:14,300
processors in a 32 by 32 array.

6282
02:30:14,740 --> 02:30:16,010
The researchers say they hope

6283
02:30:16,010 --> 02:30:17,270
to build a 3D chip with more

6284
02:30:17,270 --> 02:30:19,360
than 16,000 processors...

6285
02:30:19,360 --> 02:30:20,580
Is chip your real name, chip?

6286
02:30:20,760 --> 02:30:21,410
...that could have the power of

6287
02:30:21,410 --> 02:30:21,850
the world's largest

6288
02:30:21,850 --> 02:30:22,500
supercomputer...

6289
02:30:22,500 --> 02:30:22,860
Twist it!

6290
02:30:22,860 --> 02:30:25,000
...but use only 50 watts of

6291
02:30:25,000 --> 02:30:26,520
power and be small enough to

6292
02:30:26,520 --> 02:30:27,680
fit in your hand.

6293
02:30:28,020 --> 02:30:28,240
Lovely.

6294
02:30:28,340 --> 02:30:29,010
That's it for this week's

6295
02:30:29,010 --> 02:30:29,560
Random Access.

6296
02:30:29,560 --> 02:30:29,960
We'll see.

6297
02:30:29,960 --> 02:30:32,000
Just future speculation at that

6298
02:30:32,000 --> 02:30:32,640
point.

6299
02:30:32,900 --> 02:30:34,810
And now our phones that we have

6300
02:30:34,810 --> 02:30:36,640
probably combine all the

6301
02:30:36,640 --> 02:30:38,540
processing power of every

6302
02:30:38,540 --> 02:30:40,070
computer that's ever been

6303
02:30:40,070 --> 02:30:41,960
featured in the 80s editions.

6304
02:30:42,560 --> 02:30:43,180
And more.

6305
02:30:44,300 --> 02:30:44,640
Do you know?

6306
02:30:45,140 --> 02:30:46,080
Probably send someone to the

6307
02:30:46,080 --> 02:30:46,540
moon.

6308
02:30:46,620 --> 02:30:47,520
They're always saying that.

6309
02:30:48,200 --> 02:30:49,200
Thank you very much there for

6310
02:30:49,200 --> 02:30:49,840
the tip.

6311
02:30:49,980 --> 02:30:51,020
Flamebag and I'm your...

6312
02:30:51,020 --> 02:30:52,940
Bottoms up yours.

6313
02:30:53,020 --> 02:30:53,760
Thank you very much.

6314
02:30:53,940 --> 02:30:54,640
See you next time.

6315
02:30:56,220 --> 02:30:57,950
The Computer Chronicles is made

6316
02:30:57,950 --> 02:30:59,860
possible in part by CompuServe.

6317
02:31:00,220 --> 02:31:01,570
Featuring an online reference

6318
02:31:01,570 --> 02:31:03,440
library, Wall Street reports,

6319
02:31:03,440 --> 02:31:05,040
at-home shopping, airline

6320
02:31:05,040 --> 02:31:06,610
reservations, games, and

6321
02:31:06,610 --> 02:31:08,480
hundreds of other services.

6322
02:31:08,860 --> 02:31:09,940
There's her man again.

6323
02:31:10,280 --> 02:31:11,910
CompuServe. Helping people get

6324
02:31:11,910 --> 02:31:13,420
the most from computers.

6325
02:31:16,340 --> 02:31:16,180
Additional funding is provided

6326
02:31:16,180 --> 02:31:18,930
by McGraw-Hill, publishers of

6327
02:31:18,930 --> 02:31:19,720
Byte.

6328
02:31:20,140 --> 02:31:21,010
Byte's detailed technical

6329
02:31:21,010 --> 02:31:22,300
articles on new hardware,

6330
02:31:22,300 --> 02:31:24,100
software, and languages...

6331
02:31:24,100 --> 02:31:25,070
Covered developments in

6332
02:31:25,070 --> 02:31:26,520
computer technology worldwide.

6333
02:31:26,840 --> 02:31:28,820
It began with those lovely,

6334
02:31:28,820 --> 02:31:32,370
lovely little graphics, interstitials,

6335
02:31:32,370 --> 02:31:34,660
and soundscapes as well.

6336
02:31:34,660 --> 02:31:36,720
Post Office Box 701, Kent, Ohio,

6337
02:31:36,720 --> 02:31:37,820
442...

6338
02:31:37,820 --> 02:31:52,160
Transcript. ...transcript.

6339
02:31:52,160 --> 02:31:52,240
Transcript.

6340
02:31:52,240 --> 02:31:53,640
Because all this stuff was gold,

6341
02:31:53,640 --> 02:31:55,040
like, you know, to the computer

6342
02:31:55,040 --> 02:31:55,500
world.

6343
02:31:56,140 --> 02:31:57,460
User groups and people wanting

6344
02:31:57,460 --> 02:31:58,940
to try and advance their

6345
02:31:58,940 --> 02:32:00,540
technical prowess with the

6346
02:32:00,540 --> 02:32:02,530
little computer stuff that they

6347
02:32:02,530 --> 02:32:03,060
had.

6348
02:32:03,940 --> 02:32:05,380
A transcript of the Computer

6349
02:32:05,380 --> 02:32:07,000
Chronicles would be gold dust,

6350
02:32:07,000 --> 02:32:07,620
you know?

6351
02:32:07,720 --> 02:32:09,610
It would inspire in the same

6352
02:32:09,610 --> 02:32:11,300
way that the AI inspires us now

6353
02:32:11,300 --> 02:32:13,140
with their suggestions.

6354
02:32:13,560 --> 02:32:14,500
Computer Chronicles would be a

6355
02:32:14,500 --> 02:32:15,560
jumping-off point.

6356
02:32:15,720 --> 02:32:16,260
A transcript.

6357
02:32:16,420 --> 02:32:16,760
So, $3.

6358
02:32:17,720 --> 02:32:18,680
Probably great value back in

6359
02:32:18,680 --> 02:32:19,440
the day.

6360
02:32:20,280 --> 02:32:21,270
And you could send away for

6361
02:32:21,270 --> 02:32:21,900
that.

6362
02:32:22,280 --> 02:32:23,760
Please indicate program date.

6363
02:32:26,560 --> 02:32:28,000
And Captain Sack, thank you

6364
02:32:28,000 --> 02:32:28,680
very much.

6365
02:32:28,680 --> 02:32:29,180
Thank you.

6366
02:32:29,180 --> 02:32:29,240
Thank you.

6367
02:32:29,240 --> 02:32:29,300
Thank you.

6368
02:32:29,300 --> 02:32:59,280
Thank you.

6369
02:32:59,280 --> 02:33:29,260
Thank you.

6370
02:33:29,260 --> 02:33:31,260
Thank you.

6371
02:33:31,260 --> 02:33:34,000
We move on to another lineup

6372
02:33:34,000 --> 02:33:37,610
and also remember to click the

6373
02:33:37,610 --> 02:33:39,900
watched checkbox on the Dara

6374
02:33:39,900 --> 02:33:40,300
site.

6375
02:33:41,260 --> 02:33:45,120
And bring us into Netcafé Webby

6376
02:33:45,120 --> 02:33:47,360
Awards. We're going to leap

6377
02:33:47,360 --> 02:33:50,490
through the decade from 1988 to

6378
02:33:50,490 --> 02:33:53,260
the year 2000 into Netcafé.

6379
02:33:53,260 --> 02:33:55,700
And it's it's one of those

6380
02:33:55,700 --> 02:33:56,940
special.

6381
02:33:56,940 --> 02:33:58,980
Editions where they go over to

6382
02:33:58,980 --> 02:34:01,000
a, you know, a function. I

6383
02:34:01,000 --> 02:34:03,120
think the Webby Awards are they

6384
02:34:03,120 --> 02:34:04,840
might even still be going

6385
02:34:04,840 --> 02:34:07,580
nowadays. I'm not sure. It's an

6386
02:34:07,580 --> 02:34:09,820
archive dot org player.

6387
02:34:12,220 --> 02:34:13,540
Which won't give us the

6388
02:34:13,540 --> 02:34:15,390
customization that we've come

6389
02:34:15,390 --> 02:34:17,220
to know enough from YouTube.

6390
02:34:17,220 --> 02:34:19,180
But it doesn't matter. We've

6391
02:34:19,180 --> 02:34:20,800
got the episode and that's the

6392
02:34:20,800 --> 02:34:21,820
main thing.

6393
02:34:29,100 --> 02:34:31,200
Are you can, are you can.

6394
02:34:38,140 --> 02:34:38,960
Bam, bam.

6395
02:34:39,200 --> 02:34:41,020
This week on the Netcafé, the

6396
02:34:41,020 --> 02:34:42,850
annual Webby Awards, the best

6397
02:34:42,850 --> 02:34:44,840
of the worldwide web, including

6398
02:34:44,840 --> 02:34:46,820
special guest presenters, John

6399
02:34:46,820 --> 02:34:48,730
Perry Barlow, comedian Sandra

6400
02:34:48,730 --> 02:34:50,570
Bernhardt and former editor of

6401
02:34:50,570 --> 02:34:52,640
the New Yorker, Tina Brown.

6402
02:34:52,960 --> 02:34:53,580
Tina Brown.

6403
02:34:53,580 --> 02:34:55,430
Coming up next on this special

6404
02:34:55,430 --> 02:34:57,180
edition of the Netcafé.

6405
02:34:58,140 --> 02:34:59,630
Netcafé is made possible by

6406
02:34:59,630 --> 02:35:02,720
RonDiamond.com. The oldies.

6407
02:35:02,720 --> 02:35:03,620
Ron Diamond.

6408
02:35:04,160 --> 02:35:05,160
Music and memories.

6409
02:35:05,160 --> 02:35:06,570
I'd say Stu might have had

6410
02:35:06,570 --> 02:35:07,810
something involved to be

6411
02:35:07,810 --> 02:35:09,400
involved with Ron Diamond to be

6412
02:35:09,400 --> 02:35:10,950
to be plugging his stuff every

6413
02:35:10,950 --> 02:35:11,540
week.

6414
02:35:11,540 --> 02:35:13,150
From the law offices of Ivan

6415
02:35:13,150 --> 02:35:13,860
Hoffman.

6416
02:35:14,360 --> 02:35:15,690
Lawyering with integrity for

6417
02:35:15,690 --> 02:35:17,440
Internet law, copyright,

6418
02:35:17,440 --> 02:35:18,750
trademark and other

6419
02:35:18,750 --> 02:35:20,680
intellectual property law.

6420
02:35:21,300 --> 02:35:22,850
And by Techweb for up to the

6421
02:35:22,850 --> 02:35:24,580
minute technology news.

6422
02:35:26,700 --> 02:35:28,840
Hi and welcome to the Netcafé.

6423
02:35:28,840 --> 02:35:30,260
We have a very special program

6424
02:35:30,260 --> 02:35:31,280
for you this week.

6425
02:35:31,640 --> 02:35:32,940
Coverage of the fourth annual

6426
02:35:32,940 --> 02:35:34,660
Webby Awards, the best of the

6427
02:35:34,660 --> 02:35:36,450
worldwide web, according to the

6428
02:35:36,450 --> 02:35:38,130
International Academy of

6429
02:35:38,130 --> 02:35:39,660
Digital Arts and Sciences.

6430
02:35:40,040 --> 02:35:41,790
27 Webby Awards to be given

6431
02:35:41,790 --> 02:35:44,030
away in categories ranging from

6432
02:35:44,030 --> 02:35:45,500
activism to weird.

6433
02:35:46,060 --> 02:35:47,120
So let's hop across town.

6434
02:35:47,120 --> 02:35:48,520
Great stuff. It's a broad

6435
02:35:48,520 --> 02:35:50,140
spectrum of awards.

6436
02:35:50,340 --> 02:35:51,950
Being dished out. Feels like

6437
02:35:51,950 --> 02:35:54,020
this is a bit of a... It's not

6438
02:35:54,020 --> 02:35:56,740
a real Netcafé episode though.

6439
02:35:57,540 --> 02:35:58,460
Because it's going to leave the

6440
02:35:58,460 --> 02:36:00,120
confines of the Netcafé.

6441
02:36:00,680 --> 02:36:02,050
Hopefully that doesn't work

6442
02:36:02,050 --> 02:36:03,060
against us.

6443
02:36:03,380 --> 02:36:04,610
These guys look like they're

6444
02:36:04,610 --> 02:36:06,330
probably in on it. They're not

6445
02:36:06,330 --> 02:36:07,660
patrons of Cybersmith.

6446
02:36:08,740 --> 02:36:10,040
But let's see how this develops.

6447
02:36:10,040 --> 02:36:12,160
Bye bye to the Masonic Auditorium

6448
02:36:12,160 --> 02:36:13,800
in the Knob Hill section of San

6449
02:36:13,800 --> 02:36:16,040
Francisco for the Webby Awards.

6450
02:36:16,240 --> 02:36:16,660
Knob Hill.

6451
02:36:18,620 --> 02:36:19,540
Hollywood may be the...

6452
02:36:19,540 --> 02:36:20,750
Clang, clang, clang went the

6453
02:36:20,750 --> 02:36:21,200
trolley.

6454
02:36:21,260 --> 02:36:22,810
It was clear here at the Webby's

6455
02:36:22,810 --> 02:36:24,440
that San Francisco is the heart

6456
02:36:24,440 --> 02:36:26,020
of the Internet industry.

6457
02:36:26,360 --> 02:36:27,830
I wonder is that still going in

6458
02:36:27,830 --> 02:36:29,560
San Francisco nowadays?

6459
02:36:29,560 --> 02:36:30,310
Because it looks awful

6460
02:36:30,310 --> 02:36:30,800
dangerous.

6461
02:36:30,920 --> 02:36:31,660
See this fella here?

6462
02:36:31,820 --> 02:36:32,980
He isn't even holding on.

6463
02:36:33,020 --> 02:36:35,270
He's putting on shades as he

6464
02:36:35,270 --> 02:36:35,960
goes by.

6465
02:36:36,020 --> 02:36:37,620
He could easily fall off there

6466
02:36:37,620 --> 02:36:39,120
into the path of this car.

6467
02:36:39,920 --> 02:36:40,720
Fucking dangerous.

6468
02:36:40,800 --> 02:36:41,740
It was the heart of the

6469
02:36:41,740 --> 02:36:42,920
Internet industry.

6470
02:36:43,420 --> 02:36:44,980
It is still going, says Calvin.

6471
02:36:45,160 --> 02:36:46,320
And can you do that?

6472
02:36:46,360 --> 02:36:47,570
Where you can just stand on the

6473
02:36:47,570 --> 02:36:48,660
side and put shades on like

6474
02:36:48,660 --> 02:36:49,540
your Terminator?

6475
02:36:50,140 --> 02:36:51,100
Or is there not a health and

6476
02:36:51,100 --> 02:36:52,320
safety guy going,

6477
02:36:52,560 --> 02:36:53,040
That's...

6478
02:36:53,040 --> 02:36:54,000
You can't do that.

6479
02:36:55,460 --> 02:36:56,680
The crowds gathered early for

6480
02:36:56,680 --> 02:36:59,200
this high profile event.

6481
02:36:59,600 --> 02:37:00,520
The media was there.

6482
02:37:01,060 --> 02:37:02,050
The people in outlandish

6483
02:37:02,050 --> 02:37:03,480
outfits were there.

6484
02:37:04,260 --> 02:37:05,140
Who are they?

6485
02:37:05,240 --> 02:37:06,040
Look at these guys.

6486
02:37:07,280 --> 02:37:08,140
Outlandish outfits.

6487
02:37:08,140 --> 02:37:09,840
The media was there.

6488
02:37:10,780 --> 02:37:12,520
Size of that fucking mat box.

6489
02:37:13,160 --> 02:37:15,780
That's a huge, huge mat box.

6490
02:37:16,880 --> 02:37:17,720
The people in out...

6491
02:37:17,720 --> 02:37:19,160
I don't know who this guy is.

6492
02:37:19,400 --> 02:37:20,960
Oflandish outfits were there.

6493
02:37:21,740 --> 02:37:23,440
She's a presenter of sorts.

6494
02:37:24,560 --> 02:37:25,800
And this book couldn't fucking

6495
02:37:25,800 --> 02:37:26,760
tell you.

6496
02:37:31,500 --> 02:37:31,430
And the performance artists

6497
02:37:31,430 --> 02:37:33,760
were there.

6498
02:37:34,500 --> 02:37:36,030
They look like they could be

6499
02:37:36,030 --> 02:37:39,070
from that post-9-11 creed thing

6500
02:37:39,070 --> 02:37:40,760
at the Super Bowl.

6501
02:37:41,420 --> 02:37:43,140
Inside the Masonic Auditory,

6502
02:37:43,140 --> 02:37:44,520
And the crowd filed into their

6503
02:37:44,520 --> 02:37:45,000
seats.

6504
02:37:45,220 --> 02:37:46,850
Ready to see mistress of awards,

6505
02:37:46,850 --> 02:37:47,880
Marina Berlin.

6506
02:37:48,260 --> 02:37:49,700
She's the one with the red hat.

6507
02:37:49,700 --> 02:37:51,040
And it's Alan Cummings.

6508
02:37:51,040 --> 02:37:52,640
And Marina Berlin.

6509
02:37:52,640 --> 02:37:54,160
I don't know who she is, but

6510
02:37:54,160 --> 02:37:56,320
certainly familiar enough face.

6511
02:37:57,320 --> 02:37:59,060
Wearing some kind of morph suit.

6512
02:38:00,440 --> 02:38:01,480
And your man, he was in Golden

6513
02:38:01,480 --> 02:38:03,440
Eye and other stuff.

6514
02:38:03,440 --> 02:38:04,790
...of ceremonies, Tony Award

6515
02:38:04,790 --> 02:38:06,100
winning actor, Alan Cummings.

6516
02:38:06,260 --> 02:38:07,570
He's the one with the weird

6517
02:38:07,570 --> 02:38:08,260
hairdo.

6518
02:38:08,260 --> 02:38:09,260
Weird hairdo.

6519
02:38:09,260 --> 02:38:09,260
Weird hairdo.

6520
02:38:09,260 --> 02:38:10,810
One of the special charms of

6521
02:38:10,810 --> 02:38:12,270
the Webbys is the rule that

6522
02:38:12,270 --> 02:38:13,690
winners must limit their

6523
02:38:13,690 --> 02:38:16,040
acceptance remarks to only five

6524
02:38:16,040 --> 02:38:16,820
words.

6525
02:38:16,820 --> 02:38:18,300
How did Alan get that gig?

6526
02:38:18,300 --> 02:38:19,660
How didn't he get that gig?

6527
02:38:19,660 --> 02:38:20,140
Probably...

6528
02:38:20,140 --> 02:38:21,320
I don't know.

6529
02:38:21,320 --> 02:38:22,630
His phone was hopping, I'd say,

6530
02:38:22,630 --> 02:38:23,960
in 2000, you know?

6531
02:38:24,760 --> 02:38:26,370
And he looks cyber adjacent

6532
02:38:26,370 --> 02:38:27,820
with the hair.

6533
02:38:27,820 --> 02:38:29,840
So let's get on to the first

6534
02:38:29,840 --> 02:38:30,640
Webby.

6535
02:38:31,140 --> 02:38:32,570
The nominees for the Activism

6536
02:38:32,570 --> 02:38:33,820
Award are...

6537
02:38:36,280 --> 02:38:41,900
What the fuck is going on there?

6538
02:38:41,900 --> 02:38:43,980
American Civil Libert...

6539
02:38:43,980 --> 02:38:44,220
Sorry.

6540
02:38:50,540 --> 02:38:52,100
That's the Berlin Wall.

6541
02:38:52,100 --> 02:38:52,520
Okay.

6542
02:38:52,860 --> 02:38:53,800
But this is 2000.

6543
02:38:56,140 --> 02:38:58,160
American Civil Liberties Union.

6544
02:39:00,020 --> 02:39:00,840
Is this software?

6545
02:39:04,160 --> 02:39:05,760
The Action Network.

6546
02:39:11,460 --> 02:39:12,380
Adbusters.

6547
02:39:12,380 --> 02:39:15,620
Adbusters.

6548
02:39:15,620 --> 02:39:16,060
Adbusters.

6549
02:39:18,820 --> 02:39:20,180
The Hunger Sites.

6550
02:39:23,620 --> 02:39:23,770
Really trying to drum up the

6551
02:39:23,770 --> 02:39:26,140
anticipation.

6552
02:39:27,980 --> 02:39:29,840
And protest next.

6553
02:39:32,020 --> 02:39:33,360
Fair play to Alan.

6554
02:39:33,500 --> 02:39:35,440
He's earning his keep by really

6555
02:39:35,440 --> 02:39:37,360
hammering home the names and

6556
02:39:37,360 --> 02:39:39,840
giving them the oomph necessary.

6557
02:39:39,840 --> 02:39:40,840
The Hunger Sites.

6558
02:39:40,840 --> 02:39:40,840
The Hunger Sites.

6559
02:39:40,840 --> 02:39:41,840
The Hunger Sites.

6560
02:39:41,840 --> 02:39:42,840
The Hunger Sites.

6561
02:39:42,840 --> 02:39:43,840
The Hunger Sites.

6562
02:39:43,840 --> 02:39:44,240
Quiet.

6563
02:39:48,240 --> 02:39:48,840
The Hunger Sites.

6564
02:39:48,840 --> 02:39:49,840
The Hunger Sites.

6565
02:39:49,840 --> 02:39:50,840
The Hunger Sites.

6566
02:39:50,840 --> 02:39:51,160
Good stuff.

6567
02:39:54,080 --> 02:39:54,900
Look at that.

6568
02:39:54,960 --> 02:39:56,600
It's a culture jamming website

6569
02:39:56,600 --> 02:39:57,840
devoted to...

6570
02:39:59,280 --> 02:40:01,840
And it's Gore and Bush.

6571
02:40:01,840 --> 02:40:03,520
That's where we are at the

6572
02:40:03,520 --> 02:40:04,960
stage of history.

6573
02:40:05,660 --> 02:40:07,500
Before the hanging Chad.

6574
02:40:08,580 --> 02:40:10,360
Jeb Bush, governor of Florida.

6575
02:40:10,900 --> 02:40:13,900
He had some hand in the thing.

6576
02:40:14,020 --> 02:40:15,340
Fox News called it.

6577
02:40:16,100 --> 02:40:17,640
Big, big stuff at the time.

6578
02:40:17,640 --> 02:40:19,290
Talking about media literacy

6579
02:40:19,290 --> 02:40:20,950
and having us question all the

6580
02:40:20,950 --> 02:40:22,600
advertising that we see every

6581
02:40:22,600 --> 02:40:24,150
day on the streets and on our

6582
02:40:24,150 --> 02:40:25,080
billboards.

6583
02:40:26,480 --> 02:40:27,480
Three letters.

6584
02:40:27,480 --> 02:40:27,480
Three letters.

6585
02:40:27,480 --> 02:40:28,480
I.

6586
02:40:28,480 --> 02:40:28,480
P.

6587
02:40:28,480 --> 02:40:29,480
O.

6588
02:40:29,480 --> 02:40:33,480
Initial product offering.

6589
02:40:33,480 --> 02:40:36,980
When I saw the nominees for the

6590
02:40:36,980 --> 02:40:41,480
next category of broadband...

6591
02:40:41,480 --> 02:40:42,920
It's kind of like Coolio's head,

6592
02:40:42,920 --> 02:40:43,480
isn't it?

6593
02:40:43,480 --> 02:40:45,480
Uh, rest in peace.

6594
02:40:45,480 --> 02:40:47,480
He had a hairdo like that.

6595
02:40:47,480 --> 02:40:50,290
Maybe, uh, Coolio featuring LV

6596
02:40:50,290 --> 02:40:53,010
Gangsters Paradise had come out

6597
02:40:53,010 --> 02:40:54,480
at this stage.

6598
02:40:54,480 --> 02:40:56,550
And, uh, Alan Cumming has

6599
02:40:56,550 --> 02:40:58,710
decided, "I'm gonna go with

6600
02:40:58,710 --> 02:40:59,480
that."

6601
02:40:59,480 --> 02:41:01,480
And I don't know.

6602
02:41:01,480 --> 02:41:03,480
I think it was misjudged.

6603
02:41:03,480 --> 02:41:04,480
Ill-timed.

6604
02:41:05,480 --> 02:41:07,480
Maybe, maybe wrong.

6605
02:41:08,480 --> 02:41:09,390
So the nominees for the next

6606
02:41:09,390 --> 02:41:11,480
category of broadband...

6607
02:41:11,480 --> 02:41:12,480
I was frankly very upset.

6608
02:41:12,480 --> 02:41:14,020
First of all, because the Spice

6609
02:41:14,020 --> 02:41:15,480
Girls weren't nominated.

6610
02:41:15,480 --> 02:41:17,340
And second of all, because,

6611
02:41:17,340 --> 02:41:19,480
hello, this is the year 2000.

6612
02:41:19,480 --> 02:41:20,960
I think they prefer to be

6613
02:41:20,960 --> 02:41:22,480
called Female Bands.

6614
02:41:23,480 --> 02:41:24,250
Broadband is not very

6615
02:41:24,250 --> 02:41:25,480
politically correct.

6616
02:41:26,480 --> 02:41:28,480
So here are the nominees.

6617
02:41:36,480 --> 02:41:34,220
And it's very low-key, isn't it,

6618
02:41:34,220 --> 02:41:39,480
when they go to the nominees.

6619
02:41:40,480 --> 02:41:42,480
The sound is not great on it,

6620
02:41:42,480 --> 02:41:43,770
which, uh, doesn't really fill

6621
02:41:43,770 --> 02:41:44,480
you with much.

6622
02:41:44,480 --> 02:41:46,250
Anticipation or gusto as to

6623
02:41:46,250 --> 02:41:47,480
what's coming.

6624
02:41:47,480 --> 02:41:48,480
Atom Film!

6625
02:41:48,480 --> 02:41:50,550
Which is why Cumming has to

6626
02:41:50,550 --> 02:41:52,480
really give it socks.

6627
02:41:57,480 --> 02:41:58,480
Congo Trek!

6628
02:41:59,480 --> 02:42:00,480
Congo Trek.

6629
02:42:01,480 --> 02:42:03,480
Again, is this software?

6630
02:42:03,480 --> 02:42:05,320
Because I really feel like I

6631
02:42:05,320 --> 02:42:07,240
should make note of these and

6632
02:42:07,240 --> 02:42:09,480
then load it up on the windows.

6633
02:42:09,480 --> 02:42:10,480
On the DOS box.

6634
02:42:10,480 --> 02:42:14,390
If this is a... if this is

6635
02:42:14,390 --> 02:42:17,160
software, then I'm down for a

6636
02:42:17,160 --> 02:42:20,480
Congo Trek stream at some stage.

6637
02:42:22,480 --> 02:42:23,480
It sounds class.

6638
02:42:24,480 --> 02:42:26,050
But if it's broadband, then it

6639
02:42:26,050 --> 02:42:27,480
must just be like...

6640
02:42:27,480 --> 02:42:29,170
Multimedia or websites that

6641
02:42:29,170 --> 02:42:30,570
have made the best use of

6642
02:42:30,570 --> 02:42:31,480
broadband.

6643
02:42:31,480 --> 02:42:33,310
You know, you're really getting

6644
02:42:33,310 --> 02:42:35,020
to grips with the Congo because

6645
02:42:35,020 --> 02:42:36,790
you've got those high bandwidth

6646
02:42:36,790 --> 02:42:37,480
speeds.

6647
02:42:37,480 --> 02:42:38,480
Congo Trek!

6648
02:42:38,480 --> 02:42:39,760
You can see the animations of

6649
02:42:39,760 --> 02:42:41,070
the monkeys and all that kind

6650
02:42:41,070 --> 02:42:42,410
of business in a way that you've

6651
02:42:42,410 --> 02:42:43,480
never seen before.

6652
02:42:44,480 --> 02:42:48,280
It's the internet, it's... yeah,

6653
02:42:48,280 --> 02:42:51,010
it's the Webby Award, so it's

6654
02:42:51,010 --> 02:42:52,480
for websites.

6655
02:42:52,480 --> 02:42:53,480
I film!

6656
02:42:59,480 --> 02:43:00,480
Video farm!

6657
02:43:00,480 --> 02:43:02,190
It was still dial-up at that

6658
02:43:02,190 --> 02:43:04,560
stage, but if you... I suppose

6659
02:43:04,560 --> 02:43:06,390
real fancy dancies had faster

6660
02:43:06,390 --> 02:43:08,060
modems to be able to do this

6661
02:43:08,060 --> 02:43:09,480
stuff, you know?

6662
02:43:10,480 --> 02:43:12,440
It wasn't really until... from

6663
02:43:12,440 --> 02:43:15,520
what I can remember, 2004 or 5,

6664
02:43:15,520 --> 02:43:17,260
until I got to grips with

6665
02:43:17,260 --> 02:43:18,480
broadband.

6666
02:43:19,480 --> 02:43:20,770
Do you know? It was still dial-up

6667
02:43:20,770 --> 02:43:21,480
up until then.

6668
02:43:21,480 --> 02:43:22,850
And the rest of the world was

6669
02:43:22,850 --> 02:43:24,480
leaving me behind, you know?

6670
02:43:24,480 --> 02:43:26,460
And then, of course, then the

6671
02:43:26,460 --> 02:43:28,430
broadband hit 2000... around

6672
02:43:28,430 --> 02:43:30,480
2004, that proliferated.

6673
02:43:30,480 --> 02:43:33,590
And 5... then 2004, 5, 6, then...

6674
02:43:33,590 --> 02:43:35,480
then video and YouTube 2005.

6675
02:43:36,480 --> 02:43:37,770
Do you know? It was a very fast

6676
02:43:37,770 --> 02:43:38,480
thing.

6677
02:43:40,480 --> 02:43:41,300
So it was still early adopter

6678
02:43:41,300 --> 02:43:43,480
phase at this stage.

6679
02:43:43,480 --> 02:43:44,480
And wire break!

6680
02:43:44,480 --> 02:43:59,480
And the... Webby... goes to...

6681
02:43:59,480 --> 02:44:00,480
Lovely.

6682
02:44:00,480 --> 02:44:02,480
Video farm!

6683
02:44:02,480 --> 02:44:03,480
Video farm!

6684
02:44:03,480 --> 02:44:06,880
And there we have the

6685
02:44:06,880 --> 02:44:11,850
celebration video, digital

6686
02:44:11,850 --> 02:44:13,480
video.

6687
02:44:13,480 --> 02:44:14,790
"Keep clapping, I've got a long

6688
02:44:14,790 --> 02:44:15,480
way to come!"

6689
02:44:15,480 --> 02:44:16,090
"Keep clapping, I've got a long

6690
02:44:16,090 --> 02:44:16,480
way to come!"

6691
02:44:17,480 --> 02:44:19,480
Ooh, bit of a...

6692
02:44:20,480 --> 02:44:21,450
"Keep clapping, I've got a long

6693
02:44:21,450 --> 02:44:22,480
way to come!"

6694
02:44:23,480 --> 02:44:24,560
Okay, so just prompting the

6695
02:44:24,560 --> 02:44:26,730
audience to keep the energy up

6696
02:44:26,730 --> 02:44:28,480
there. Never a good sign.

6697
02:44:29,480 --> 02:44:30,480
Never a good sign.

6698
02:44:30,480 --> 02:44:31,480
Never a good sign.

6699
02:44:37,480 --> 02:44:39,520
And the doors, Jim Morrison,

6700
02:44:39,520 --> 02:44:41,410
break on through to the other

6701
02:44:41,410 --> 02:44:43,480
side as their walk on music.

6702
02:44:43,480 --> 02:44:45,010
They could have done with a

6703
02:44:45,010 --> 02:44:46,780
live band, a la the Cody Awards,

6704
02:44:46,780 --> 02:44:48,480
but they haven't done that.

6705
02:44:54,480 --> 02:44:54,000
Your man's brought his camera

6706
02:44:54,000 --> 02:44:56,480
up as well.

6707
02:44:56,480 --> 02:44:58,720
"Putting video into everybody's

6708
02:44:58,720 --> 02:44:59,480
hands!"

6709
02:44:59,480 --> 02:45:02,480
"We have six and twice Brent!"

6710
02:45:02,480 --> 02:45:03,480
"We have six and twice Brent!"

6711
02:45:03,480 --> 02:45:04,480
"Five."

6712
02:45:04,480 --> 02:45:05,480
"What?"

6713
02:45:05,480 --> 02:45:06,480
"Five."

6714
02:45:06,480 --> 02:45:07,480
"Live!"

6715
02:45:07,480 --> 02:45:08,480
"Unintelligible."

6716
02:45:08,480 --> 02:45:09,480
"We have six and twice Brent!"

6717
02:45:09,480 --> 02:45:10,480
"We have six and twice Brent!"

6718
02:45:10,480 --> 02:45:12,480
"We have six and twice Brent!"

6719
02:45:12,480 --> 02:45:14,480
"To everybody's hands!"

6720
02:45:14,480 --> 02:45:15,480
"Live!"

6721
02:45:15,480 --> 02:45:17,480
"We have six and twice Brent!"

6722
02:45:17,480 --> 02:45:18,480
"Five."

6723
02:45:18,480 --> 02:45:19,480
"Five."

6724
02:45:19,480 --> 02:45:19,480
"Five."

6725
02:45:19,480 --> 02:45:20,480
"I think he'd been on the piss."

6726
02:45:20,480 --> 02:45:22,070
"And Alan coming immediately

6727
02:45:22,070 --> 02:45:23,860
when he hears the unintelligible

6728
02:45:23,860 --> 02:45:25,480
outburst from your mind."

6729
02:45:25,480 --> 02:45:26,480
"He just says, 'Bye!'"

6730
02:45:26,480 --> 02:45:28,640
"As in, 'Go on, you're done.

6731
02:45:28,640 --> 02:45:29,480
Get off."

6732
02:45:29,480 --> 02:45:30,480
"Get off."

6733
02:45:30,480 --> 02:45:31,480
"Live!"

6734
02:45:31,480 --> 02:45:33,480
"We have six and twice Brent!"

6735
02:45:33,480 --> 02:45:34,480
"Five."

6736
02:45:34,480 --> 02:45:35,480
"Five."

6737
02:45:35,480 --> 02:45:36,480
"Five."

6738
02:45:36,480 --> 02:45:37,480
"Bye."

6739
02:45:40,480 --> 02:45:39,680
"I think he said something,

6740
02:45:39,680 --> 02:45:41,970
yeah, like, he likes sliced

6741
02:45:41,970 --> 02:45:44,480
bread there, someone says.

6742
02:45:44,480 --> 02:45:45,480
Sounds like that."

6743
02:45:45,480 --> 02:45:46,790
"Five words for the whole award,

6744
02:45:46,790 --> 02:45:48,020
not five words per person, you

6745
02:45:48,020 --> 02:45:48,480
know."

6746
02:45:48,480 --> 02:45:49,480
"Nice."

6747
02:45:49,480 --> 02:45:52,270
"Now it's time for the gameswebby.

6748
02:45:52,270 --> 02:45:54,480
The nominees are..."

6749
02:45:54,480 --> 02:45:57,920
"2000 games on the website, on

6750
02:45:57,920 --> 02:45:59,480
the internet."

6751
02:45:59,480 --> 02:46:00,480
"Did they exist?"

6752
02:46:00,480 --> 02:46:02,230
"They probably did, but what

6753
02:46:02,230 --> 02:46:03,910
were people fucking playing

6754
02:46:03,910 --> 02:46:04,480
like?"

6755
02:46:04,480 --> 02:46:06,480
"I can't remember that."

6756
02:46:14,480 --> 02:46:16,160
"I mean, you're saying Quake,

6757
02:46:16,160 --> 02:46:17,780
Age of Empires, but this is for

6758
02:46:17,780 --> 02:46:19,330
websites, so I imagine these

6759
02:46:19,330 --> 02:46:21,220
are like JavaScript or web-based

6760
02:46:21,220 --> 02:46:22,480
browser games, no?"

6761
02:46:22,480 --> 02:46:25,480
"Gamasutra!"

6762
02:46:25,480 --> 02:46:27,480
"Gamasutra."

6763
02:46:27,480 --> 02:46:28,480
"Gamasutra."

6764
02:46:30,480 --> 02:46:30,410
"And we don't really, we can't

6765
02:46:30,410 --> 02:46:32,480
really glean much from that."

6766
02:46:32,480 --> 02:46:33,480
"Gamespy.com."

6767
02:46:33,480 --> 02:46:34,480
"Gamespy.com."

6768
02:46:34,480 --> 02:46:35,480
"Gamespy.com."

6769
02:46:35,480 --> 02:46:36,480
"Gamespy.com."

6770
02:46:37,480 --> 02:46:38,480
"Thank you."

6771
02:46:38,480 --> 02:46:39,480
"Thank you."

6772
02:46:39,480 --> 02:46:40,240
"That's your reviews, right

6773
02:46:40,240 --> 02:46:40,480
there."

6774
02:46:40,480 --> 02:46:41,680
"Thanksgiving, thank you very

6775
02:46:41,680 --> 02:46:42,480
much for the tip."

6776
02:46:42,480 --> 02:46:43,480
"Happy Puppy."

6777
02:46:43,480 --> 02:46:44,480
"Happy Puppy."

6778
02:46:44,480 --> 02:46:45,480
"Happy Puppy."

6779
02:46:46,480 --> 02:46:47,480
"Never heard of it."

6780
02:46:47,480 --> 02:46:48,980
Happy Puppy.

6781
02:46:50,800 --> 02:46:52,160
Never heard of it.

6782
02:46:52,940 --> 02:46:54,640
Shockwave.com

6783
02:46:54,640 --> 02:46:56,620
We're downloading the Shockwave

6784
02:46:56,620 --> 02:46:58,260
for all the ladies in the cave

6785
02:46:58,260 --> 02:46:59,700
to get your groove on.

6786
02:47:00,120 --> 02:47:01,280
And the station!

6787
02:47:03,780 --> 02:47:06,380
Such a bizarre showreel of

6788
02:47:06,380 --> 02:47:06,880
stuff

6789
02:47:06,880 --> 02:47:08,660
there. When they're showing you

6790
02:47:08,660 --> 02:47:10,230
the websites, it cuts away to

6791
02:47:10,230 --> 02:47:10,520
this

6792
02:47:10,520 --> 02:47:12,360
highway. Autobahn.

6793
02:47:12,960 --> 02:47:14,760
And then it shows some 60s

6794
02:47:14,760 --> 02:47:14,900
clips.

6795
02:47:15,000 --> 02:47:15,940
I have nothing to do with the

6796
02:47:15,940 --> 02:47:17,000
websites in question.

6797
02:47:17,940 --> 02:47:18,470
I don't know what they were

6798
02:47:18,470 --> 02:47:19,820
going for with that.

6799
02:47:25,320 --> 02:47:26,640
It's a couple of fish

6800
02:47:26,640 --> 02:47:27,800
chatting away to each other.

6801
02:47:29,420 --> 02:47:30,460
I think it's a

6802
02:47:30,460 --> 02:47:32,920
comedic piece, but it's going

6803
02:47:32,920 --> 02:47:34,530
well over the head because the

6804
02:47:34,530 --> 02:47:34,880
audio

6805
02:47:34,880 --> 02:47:36,630
is not good. They should have

6806
02:47:36,630 --> 02:47:36,940
done

6807
02:47:36,940 --> 02:47:38,740
a feed out for the broadcast.

6808
02:47:38,740 --> 02:47:44,380
gamespy.com

6809
02:47:44,380 --> 02:47:52,420
Zany, zany stuff.

6810
02:47:53,800 --> 02:47:56,760
Very zany moves and maneuvers.

6811
02:47:58,540 --> 02:48:01,180
Is that George Lucas there?

6812
02:48:01,660 --> 02:48:02,720
Just sat down.

6813
02:48:03,720 --> 02:48:04,900
Keep watching here.

6814
02:48:07,840 --> 02:48:08,860
Right there.

6815
02:48:11,580 --> 02:48:13,040
Look, be a lady tonight.

6816
02:48:15,360 --> 02:48:17,540
There we have the man himself,

6817
02:48:17,800 --> 02:48:19,540
Large Dukas,

6818
02:48:20,080 --> 02:48:21,200
wearing a cravat

6819
02:48:21,200 --> 02:48:22,680
and shirt

6820
02:48:22,680 --> 02:48:25,240
compendium piece for the night

6821
02:48:25,240 --> 02:48:25,880
that's in it.

6822
02:48:26,540 --> 02:48:27,600
Whilst Zane

6823
02:48:27,600 --> 02:48:28,960
Master Flux

6824
02:48:28,960 --> 02:48:30,920
takes center stage

6825
02:48:30,920 --> 02:48:33,000
for the GameSpy website.

6826
02:48:33,360 --> 02:48:34,780
Won the award for best

6827
02:48:34,780 --> 02:48:35,980
gaming website.

6828
02:48:36,520 --> 02:48:37,320
It's a review site.

6829
02:48:37,460 --> 02:48:38,100
It's a review site.

6830
02:48:38,180 --> 02:48:39,340
Would have done previews,

6831
02:48:39,640 --> 02:48:40,320
JPEGs,

6832
02:48:40,720 --> 02:48:41,080
reviews,

6833
02:48:41,280 --> 02:48:42,340
the whole shebang.

6834
02:48:42,460 --> 02:48:43,180
There's even a forum

6835
02:48:43,180 --> 02:48:44,300
and a chat and a shop.

6836
02:48:44,780 --> 02:48:46,020
GameSpy is the ultimate site

6837
02:48:46,020 --> 02:48:46,540
for gamers.

6838
02:48:46,840 --> 02:48:47,840
It's what gamers always dreamed

6839
02:48:47,840 --> 02:48:48,080
of.

6840
02:48:48,360 --> 02:48:49,400
Every game you ever wanted to

6841
02:48:49,400 --> 02:48:49,580
play

6842
02:48:49,580 --> 02:48:50,200
for free.

6843
02:48:50,640 --> 02:48:51,000
For free?

6844
02:48:51,000 --> 02:48:51,480
And all the news and

6845
02:48:51,480 --> 02:48:51,820
information

6846
02:48:51,820 --> 02:48:52,440
you could ever want.

6847
02:48:54,060 --> 02:48:55,480
I thought it was just a review

6848
02:48:55,480 --> 02:48:55,900
site.

6849
02:48:58,900 --> 02:49:00,020
Is anyone going to say anything?

6850
02:49:02,660 --> 02:49:04,040
It's very slapdash.

6851
02:49:04,140 --> 02:49:05,300
People don't know what to do

6852
02:49:05,300 --> 02:49:06,060
when they're getting up there.

6853
02:49:06,160 --> 02:49:07,080
Even Alan is saying,

6854
02:49:07,140 --> 02:49:08,030
is anybody going to say

6855
02:49:08,030 --> 02:49:08,580
anything?

6856
02:49:10,540 --> 02:49:12,540
Everyone likes the Licky Licky.

6857
02:49:13,300 --> 02:49:14,320
And there you have it.

6858
02:49:14,540 --> 02:49:15,340
Bizarre stuff.

6859
02:49:15,540 --> 02:49:16,500
Probably regrets it.

6860
02:49:16,540 --> 02:49:17,100
I don't know.

6861
02:49:17,200 --> 02:49:18,560
Maybe he doesn't because nobody's

6862
02:49:18,560 --> 02:49:19,480
going to watch this.

6863
02:49:20,140 --> 02:49:21,920
Everybody likes the Licky Licky.

6864
02:49:22,420 --> 02:49:22,900
Ominous.

6865
02:49:24,580 --> 02:49:26,680
Everyone likes the Licky Licky.

6866
02:49:32,200 --> 02:49:34,320
Well, it's a roller coaster

6867
02:49:34,320 --> 02:49:38,050
and Alan has a sneaky little

6868
02:49:38,050 --> 02:49:38,760
laugh

6869
02:49:38,760 --> 02:49:39,580
at that as well.

6870
02:49:39,680 --> 02:49:40,720
I think he liked it.

6871
02:49:43,000 --> 02:49:44,240
Is anyone going to say anything?

6872
02:49:44,240 --> 02:49:50,460
Everyone likes the Licky Licky.

6873
02:49:56,180 --> 02:49:56,680
Hubris.

6874
02:49:57,060 --> 02:49:57,580
Hubris.

6875
02:49:59,580 --> 02:50:00,240
So now...

6876
02:50:00,240 --> 02:50:01,660
A thank you would have been...

6877
02:50:01,660 --> 02:50:02,380
would have sufficed.

6878
02:50:02,500 --> 02:50:03,700
Thanks to everyone who made it

6879
02:50:03,700 --> 02:50:04,080
happen

6880
02:50:04,080 --> 02:50:05,620
and gamesby.com.

6881
02:50:05,880 --> 02:50:06,460
Check it out.

6882
02:50:07,020 --> 02:50:07,780
But he did that.

6883
02:50:07,780 --> 02:50:09,920
The Webby for Commerce.

6884
02:50:10,520 --> 02:50:11,560
And the nominees are...

6885
02:50:15,160 --> 02:50:18,240
Again with this sort of 50s, 60s

6886
02:50:18,240 --> 02:50:19,820
stuff.

6887
02:50:20,600 --> 02:50:21,760
It doesn't make sense.

6888
02:50:22,400 --> 02:50:23,700
Gear.com.

6889
02:50:23,820 --> 02:50:24,900
Gear.com.

6890
02:50:26,500 --> 02:50:27,800
Get all your gear.

6891
02:50:29,180 --> 02:50:29,720
Amazon.

6892
02:50:30,520 --> 02:50:31,760
Don't think that'll last.

6893
02:50:32,540 --> 02:50:33,380
It's not catchy.

6894
02:50:33,560 --> 02:50:34,360
It's not catchy.

6895
02:50:35,220 --> 02:50:36,400
Nobody wants to go to the...

6896
02:50:36,400 --> 02:50:37,400
All the way to the fucking

6897
02:50:37,400 --> 02:50:37,740
Amazon

6898
02:50:37,740 --> 02:50:38,720
to get some stuff.

6899
02:50:40,660 --> 02:50:41,680
Baby center.

6900
02:50:42,480 --> 02:50:43,220
Baby center.

6901
02:50:43,580 --> 02:50:44,660
Sounds like it's going to do

6902
02:50:44,660 --> 02:50:46,000
a lot better than Amazon.

6903
02:50:47,940 --> 02:50:48,800
Eat toys.

6904
02:50:52,800 --> 02:50:54,500
Realistically, Amazon just...

6905
02:50:54,500 --> 02:50:55,730
Wiped the floor with all of

6906
02:50:55,730 --> 02:50:56,180
them.

6907
02:50:56,180 --> 02:50:57,930
I mean, maybe they didn't win

6908
02:50:57,930 --> 02:50:58,360
now.

6909
02:50:59,260 --> 02:51:00,360
I'd say they did though.

6910
02:51:02,600 --> 02:51:03,300
But though...

6911
02:51:03,300 --> 02:51:04,180
It's post...

6912
02:51:04,180 --> 02:51:05,820
Dot com bubble.

6913
02:51:07,180 --> 02:51:09,420
I think 2000 might be post...

6914
02:51:09,420 --> 02:51:10,120
Dot com bubble.

6915
02:51:11,040 --> 02:51:13,100
I believe Amazon were making

6916
02:51:13,100 --> 02:51:13,800
big waves

6917
02:51:13,800 --> 02:51:14,640
around the bubble.

6918
02:51:15,300 --> 02:51:16,600
And then they went a little bit

6919
02:51:16,600 --> 02:51:17,440
low for a bit.

6920
02:51:18,140 --> 02:51:19,440
But it was always a steady,

6921
02:51:19,440 --> 02:51:20,920
steady incline.

6922
02:51:20,920 --> 02:51:24,600
Mob shop.

6923
02:51:25,980 --> 02:51:28,520
Mob shop for all your mob needs.

6924
02:51:29,400 --> 02:51:31,080
Gangster's paradise right there.

6925
02:51:36,620 --> 02:51:38,620
And the winner is...

6926
02:51:41,620 --> 02:51:42,180
Gear.

6927
02:51:44,280 --> 02:51:45,420
Baby center.

6928
02:51:49,580 --> 02:51:50,640
Never heard of it.

6929
02:51:50,700 --> 02:51:51,100
It will...

6930
02:51:51,100 --> 02:51:51,920
Never...

6931
02:51:51,920 --> 02:51:53,270
It probably still doesn't even

6932
02:51:53,270 --> 02:51:53,720
exist.

6933
02:51:55,660 --> 02:51:57,500
What about pets.com?

6934
02:52:00,860 --> 02:52:02,120
Pink Floyd's money.

6935
02:52:02,620 --> 02:52:03,060
Is there...

6936
02:52:03,060 --> 02:52:03,600
Aye, well done.

6937
02:52:04,580 --> 02:52:05,560
Their walk on shoot.

6938
02:52:05,640 --> 02:52:07,140
Maybe it's because they made so

6939
02:52:07,140 --> 02:52:07,860
much revenue

6940
02:52:07,860 --> 02:52:09,300
that year with Baby Center.

6941
02:52:10,080 --> 02:52:11,920
Thank you, Matt and Mark.

6942
02:52:12,920 --> 02:52:14,200
Looking forward to maybe seeing

6943
02:52:14,200 --> 02:52:14,920
Bezos.

6944
02:52:15,720 --> 02:52:16,560
Who could have been there.

6945
02:52:16,660 --> 02:52:17,890
Maybe he was too big of a

6946
02:52:17,890 --> 02:52:19,000
cheese to do it.

6947
02:52:20,480 --> 02:52:27,680
They're actually still massive,

6948
02:52:27,680 --> 02:52:31,840
says CDR&B. They've been bought

6949
02:52:31,840 --> 02:52:33,340
by Jeff Bezos, though.

6950
02:52:33,340 --> 02:52:35,110
And composer for The Grateful

6951
02:52:35,110 --> 02:52:38,210
Dead, John Perry Barlow. Not a

6952
02:52:38,210 --> 02:52:49,510
popular one there with the deadheads.

6953
02:52:49,510 --> 02:52:55,880
Or the contingency.

6954
02:52:55,880 --> 02:52:57,680
I haven't seen a community in

6955
02:52:57,680 --> 02:52:59,700
here. And in the words of Bruce

6956
02:52:59,700 --> 02:53:01,720
Sterling, I haven't seen a barn

6957
02:53:01,720 --> 02:53:02,840
raising yet.

6958
02:53:03,740 --> 02:53:04,520
Well, I suppose. Who's Bruce

6959
02:53:04,520 --> 02:53:06,110
Sterling? That's your first

6960
02:53:06,110 --> 02:53:08,020
hurdle, you know. There needs

6961
02:53:08,020 --> 02:53:09,700
to be some common ground with

6962
02:53:09,700 --> 02:53:11,800
that. I don't know who he is.

6963
02:53:11,800 --> 02:53:13,880
Maybe I'm out the loop here.

6964
02:53:15,560 --> 02:53:17,860
In the words of Bruce Sterling,

6965
02:53:17,860 --> 02:53:19,850
I haven't seen a barn raising

6966
02:53:19,850 --> 02:53:22,180
yet. But I think we're getting

6967
02:53:22,180 --> 02:53:24,280
there. And the nominees for

6968
02:53:24,280 --> 02:53:25,810
Best Community Site are

6969
02:53:25,810 --> 02:53:27,960
actually connecting people and

6970
02:53:27,960 --> 02:53:29,830
starting to bring into fruit

6971
02:53:29,830 --> 02:53:31,400
the kind of collective

6972
02:53:31,400 --> 02:53:33,340
consciousness that I think the

6973
02:53:33,340 --> 02:53:35,670
net is about. And those

6974
02:53:35,670 --> 02:53:36,920
nominees are.

6975
02:53:42,020 --> 02:53:44,080
It's so tense in that auditorium,

6976
02:53:44,080 --> 02:53:46,100
which is known as the Masonic.

6977
02:53:47,700 --> 02:53:50,100
Say the Masonic Auditorium in

6978
02:53:50,100 --> 02:53:52,540
San Francisco.

6979
02:53:54,180 --> 02:53:55,620
MC Alan Cummings.

6980
02:53:58,320 --> 02:53:59,950
So there's a Masonic air there.

6981
02:53:59,950 --> 02:54:01,980
Uncertainty.

6982
02:54:02,760 --> 02:54:04,300
And a tense, I would say,

6983
02:54:04,300 --> 02:54:05,740
atmosphere.

6984
02:54:06,160 --> 02:54:06,520
Cafe Utney.

6985
02:54:09,320 --> 02:54:10,240
Cafe Utney.

6986
02:54:11,480 --> 02:54:12,580
How is your chutney?

6987
02:54:13,520 --> 02:54:14,460
Craig's list.

6988
02:54:15,420 --> 02:54:16,980
The list of Craig.

6989
02:54:22,040 --> 02:54:23,040
Sentimental favorite.

6990
02:54:24,320 --> 02:54:24,960
ITQ.

6991
02:54:26,360 --> 02:54:27,320
I don't know what that is.

6992
02:54:28,440 --> 02:54:29,840
MTBreview.com.

6993
02:54:29,840 --> 02:54:30,960
Mountain Bike Review.

6994
02:54:32,720 --> 02:54:33,670
Booze and jeers for Mountain

6995
02:54:33,670 --> 02:54:35,180
Bike Review.

6996
02:54:35,180 --> 02:54:36,480
MTBreview.com.

6997
02:54:36,480 --> 02:54:42,840
Slashdot!

6998
02:54:42,840 --> 02:54:46,540
Great delivery on that.

6999
02:54:46,540 --> 02:54:48,040
Slashdot!

7000
02:54:48,600 --> 02:54:51,220
That's a new soundscape that

7001
02:54:51,220 --> 02:54:52,280
needs to go into the bank.

7002
02:54:54,220 --> 02:54:55,260
Slashdot!

7003
02:54:55,660 --> 02:54:56,860
Slashdot!

7004
02:54:56,860 --> 02:55:08,860
Slashdot!

7005
02:55:08,860 --> 02:55:10,220
These bits really take the

7006
02:55:10,220 --> 02:55:12,140
energy out the room, don't they?

7007
02:55:12,860 --> 02:55:14,820
Just tell us the fucking winner.

7008
02:55:17,780 --> 02:55:18,860
Cafe Utney.

7009
02:55:20,540 --> 02:55:21,860
Well, it's not chat.

7010
02:55:22,400 --> 02:55:23,940
They didn't even bother showing

7011
02:55:23,940 --> 02:55:24,500
them.

7012
02:55:24,900 --> 02:55:26,240
Their acceptance speech must

7013
02:55:26,240 --> 02:55:27,260
have been rubbish.

7014
02:55:27,420 --> 02:55:28,390
Bulletin board in the sense of

7015
02:55:28,390 --> 02:55:29,370
the way I would think of the

7016
02:55:29,370 --> 02:55:29,720
word,

7017
02:55:29,840 --> 02:55:30,540
but it's a community.

7018
02:55:30,540 --> 02:55:31,800
It's a place where people, you

7019
02:55:31,800 --> 02:55:33,270
know, interesting, intelligent

7020
02:55:33,270 --> 02:55:33,560
people

7021
02:55:33,560 --> 02:55:34,320
from a wide range of

7022
02:55:34,320 --> 02:55:35,630
backgrounds and interests talk

7023
02:55:35,630 --> 02:55:36,400
to each other.

7024
02:55:36,840 --> 02:55:37,820
They interact with others, but

7025
02:55:37,820 --> 02:55:39,300
they don't do it in real time.

7026
02:55:39,440 --> 02:55:40,800
It takes place over time.

7027
02:55:40,900 --> 02:55:42,090
You can read at your leisure,

7028
02:55:42,090 --> 02:55:43,140
post at your leisure,

7029
02:55:43,260 --> 02:55:44,400
participate in any one of

7030
02:55:44,400 --> 02:55:45,880
thousands of conversations

7031
02:55:45,880 --> 02:55:48,240
in dozens of forums.

7032
02:55:49,380 --> 02:55:50,480
Just cut him off.

7033
02:55:51,280 --> 02:55:52,100
A real stew edit.

7034
02:55:52,320 --> 02:55:54,220
In dozens of forums.

7035
02:55:54,220 --> 02:55:56,470
You guys were hoping you'd get

7036
02:55:56,470 --> 02:55:58,040
the girl, right?

7037
02:55:58,040 --> 02:55:58,280
All right.

7038
02:55:58,280 --> 02:55:58,880
All right.

7039
02:55:58,880 --> 02:55:59,160
All right.

7040
02:55:59,160 --> 02:56:01,080
You guys were hoping you'd get

7041
02:56:01,080 --> 02:56:02,460
the girl, right?

7042
02:56:02,860 --> 02:56:03,300
All right.

7043
02:56:05,300 --> 02:56:05,660
You guys were hoping you'd get

7044
02:56:05,660 --> 02:56:07,300
the girl, right?

7045
02:56:08,080 --> 02:56:09,440
The mic is on, man.

7046
02:56:09,500 --> 02:56:09,820
All right.

7047
02:56:10,180 --> 02:56:12,330
You guys were hoping you'd get

7048
02:56:12,330 --> 02:56:14,100
the girl, right?

7049
02:56:14,100 --> 02:56:14,320
All right.

7050
02:56:14,580 --> 02:56:15,000
All right.

7051
02:56:15,000 --> 02:56:15,160
All right.

7052
02:56:17,500 --> 02:56:17,980
Thanks.

7053
02:56:18,720 --> 02:56:19,980
Come talk with us.

7054
02:56:21,140 --> 02:56:21,580
Ominous.

7055
02:56:21,740 --> 02:56:22,160
Very good.

7056
02:56:23,160 --> 02:56:24,020
Ominous stuff.

7057
02:56:28,100 --> 02:56:28,580
Thanks.

7058
02:56:29,280 --> 02:56:30,560
Come talk with us.

7059
02:56:34,220 --> 02:56:34,960
Very good.

7060
02:56:35,120 --> 02:56:35,300
Thanks.

7061
02:56:40,300 --> 02:56:44,800
A real hard edit there.

7062
02:56:46,100 --> 02:56:47,510
There's a lot more still to

7063
02:56:47,510 --> 02:56:48,000
come.

7064
02:56:48,120 --> 02:56:48,920
Webby's fulfilled.

7065
02:56:48,920 --> 02:56:50,260
A lot more still to come.

7066
02:56:50,440 --> 02:56:51,560
Not enough stew.

7067
02:56:51,960 --> 02:56:52,990
Glyn, thank you very much there

7068
02:56:52,990 --> 02:56:53,680
for the tip.

7069
02:56:53,680 --> 02:56:54,020
Humor.

7070
02:56:54,340 --> 02:56:55,760
Plus special guest presenters,

7071
02:56:55,760 --> 02:56:58,280
Sandra Bernhard and Tina Brown.

7072
02:56:58,660 --> 02:56:59,890
So let's go back to the Masonic

7073
02:56:59,890 --> 02:57:01,620
Auditorium for more of the Webby

7074
02:57:01,620 --> 02:57:02,300
Awards.

7075
02:57:02,440 --> 02:57:03,120
Masonic.

7076
02:57:03,120 --> 02:57:03,420
And Tina Brown.

7077
02:57:03,560 --> 02:57:04,930
So let's go back to the Masonic

7078
02:57:04,930 --> 02:57:05,780
Auditorium.

7079
02:57:07,220 --> 02:57:09,300
For more of the Webby Awards.

7080
02:57:09,500 --> 02:57:10,600
When you go to an awards show,

7081
02:57:10,600 --> 02:57:11,700
it's important that your

7082
02:57:11,700 --> 02:57:13,420
appearance makes an impression.

7083
02:57:14,700 --> 02:57:15,690
For example, the impression I'm

7084
02:57:15,690 --> 02:57:17,710
getting from you, madam, is

7085
02:57:17,710 --> 02:57:19,260
that you need help.

7086
02:57:23,260 --> 02:57:37,540
Not good there.

7087
02:57:37,640 --> 02:57:38,620
The old mental health.

7088
02:57:39,620 --> 02:57:40,410
Bit of a dig at someone's

7089
02:57:40,410 --> 02:57:41,800
mental health.

7090
02:57:41,900 --> 02:57:43,140
It was all the rage back in the

7091
02:57:43,140 --> 02:57:43,520
day.

7092
02:57:43,780 --> 02:57:46,760
Only kidding, though.

7093
02:57:46,880 --> 02:57:48,200
But a joke.

7094
02:57:48,540 --> 02:57:49,180
Is it a joke?

7095
02:57:49,260 --> 02:57:50,360
Sometimes it's hard to tell.

7096
02:57:50,480 --> 02:57:52,060
You need help.

7097
02:57:53,300 --> 02:57:54,120
I'm only kidding.

7098
02:57:54,360 --> 02:57:55,950
Because remember when Jennifer

7099
02:57:55,950 --> 02:57:57,570
Lopez wore that scarf to the

7100
02:57:57,570 --> 02:57:58,240
Grammys?

7101
02:57:59,460 --> 02:57:59,790
Everyone forgot that she was

7102
02:57:59,790 --> 02:58:01,210
involved in a shooting in a

7103
02:58:01,210 --> 02:58:02,660
nightclub in New York.

7104
02:58:03,560 --> 02:58:03,960
Ooh.

7105
02:58:05,020 --> 02:58:08,200
A certain Mr. Puff Daddy.

7106
02:58:10,020 --> 02:58:11,580
Was involved in that one.

7107
02:58:12,060 --> 02:58:13,190
Everyone forgot that she was

7108
02:58:13,190 --> 02:58:14,210
involved in a shooting in a

7109
02:58:14,210 --> 02:58:15,260
nightclub in New York.

7110
02:58:16,100 --> 02:58:17,420
And Bill Gates.

7111
02:58:17,580 --> 02:58:18,480
Bill Gates is here.

7112
02:58:18,760 --> 02:58:19,660
You know, you should take...

7113
02:58:19,660 --> 02:58:21,580
Dangerous territory here.

7114
02:58:23,060 --> 02:58:24,160
On to Bill Gates.

7115
02:58:24,200 --> 02:58:24,780
Who is there?

7116
02:58:24,840 --> 02:58:25,960
He's been pointed out.

7117
02:58:26,000 --> 02:58:27,200
He's been called out.

7118
02:58:27,380 --> 02:58:28,910
Gates was probably shitting

7119
02:58:28,910 --> 02:58:30,680
himself at this moment in time

7120
02:58:30,680 --> 02:58:31,540
right now.

7121
02:58:31,620 --> 02:58:32,240
What's coming?

7122
02:58:32,320 --> 02:58:33,020
Gonna hit me with.

7123
02:58:33,840 --> 02:58:35,340
Thank you very much there, Ina.

7124
02:58:35,720 --> 02:58:36,580
For the tip.

7125
02:58:37,040 --> 02:58:38,040
Nightclub in New York.

7126
02:58:38,900 --> 02:58:40,220
And Bill Gates.

7127
02:58:40,340 --> 02:58:41,260
Bill Gates is here.

7128
02:58:41,500 --> 02:58:42,280
You know, you should take her

7129
02:58:42,280 --> 02:58:42,560
lead.

7130
02:58:42,620 --> 02:58:43,490
If you showed up at a press

7131
02:58:43,490 --> 02:58:44,650
conference wearing a Jennifer

7132
02:58:44,650 --> 02:58:45,220
Lopez dress,

7133
02:58:45,600 --> 02:58:46,470
maybe you'd be taken more

7134
02:58:46,470 --> 02:58:47,200
seriously.

7135
02:58:50,020 --> 02:58:51,350
Gates just got fucking mauled,

7136
02:58:51,350 --> 02:58:52,320
man.

7137
02:58:53,240 --> 02:58:54,400
Are we gonna cut away to Gates?

7138
02:58:54,760 --> 02:58:55,880
They don't have the cutaways,

7139
02:58:55,880 --> 02:58:56,520
you know?

7140
02:58:58,480 --> 02:58:59,240
Just an idea.

7141
02:58:59,240 --> 02:59:01,070
So, that leads me nicely on to

7142
02:59:01,070 --> 02:59:02,900
the nominees for fashion.

7143
02:59:03,240 --> 02:59:03,860
And they are...

7144
02:59:03,860 --> 02:59:13,800
Fashion UK!

7145
02:59:17,800 --> 02:59:18,600
Looks rubbish.

7146
02:59:19,880 --> 02:59:21,700
Hint Fashion Magazine!

7147
02:59:23,860 --> 02:59:25,540
That looks rubbish as well.

7148
02:59:25,540 --> 02:59:28,280
Paul Smith!

7149
02:59:29,380 --> 02:59:30,560
Definitely rubbish.

7150
02:59:34,560 --> 02:59:35,720
Soulmates!

7151
02:59:35,920 --> 02:59:37,680
The Century and Shoes!

7152
02:59:37,860 --> 02:59:39,020
I think it should be them.

7153
02:59:40,800 --> 02:59:41,560
Soulmates!

7154
02:59:42,240 --> 02:59:43,560
Toddauldum.com!

7155
02:59:44,260 --> 02:59:45,120
Never heard of them.

7156
02:59:52,080 --> 02:59:51,920
Now this fucking rubbish

7157
02:59:51,920 --> 02:59:54,080
animation.

7158
02:59:54,820 --> 02:59:56,800
Which is just leaving us in an

7159
02:59:56,800 --> 02:59:58,440
awkward state.

7160
02:59:58,820 --> 02:59:59,980
Like a kind of purgatory.

7161
03:00:01,560 --> 03:00:02,680
What is that?

7162
03:00:02,680 --> 03:00:20,500
Paul Smith!

7163
03:00:20,500 --> 03:00:20,580
Paul Smith!

7164
03:00:27,800 --> 03:00:30,020
Just a website for Paul Smith

7165
03:00:30,020 --> 03:00:30,800
suits.

7166
03:00:32,780 --> 03:00:34,500
Paul's had a sex change.

7167
03:00:41,320 --> 03:00:43,100
Paul's had a sex change.

7168
03:00:48,120 --> 03:00:48,880
Hi, Paul.

7169
03:00:49,440 --> 03:00:49,700
Hello.

7170
03:00:54,260 --> 03:00:59,920
I am not Paul Smith.

7171
03:01:11,380 --> 03:01:13,580
If there is anyone that...

7172
03:01:13,580 --> 03:01:14,820
Who the fuck are these now?

7173
03:01:19,820 --> 03:01:20,240
If there is anyone that knows

7174
03:01:20,240 --> 03:01:23,460
something about living,

7175
03:01:23,940 --> 03:01:25,940
we do...

7176
03:01:27,940 --> 03:01:28,940
And the nominees...

7177
03:01:37,300 --> 03:01:35,050
It's getting David Lynch,

7178
03:01:35,050 --> 03:01:40,580
somebody says there in the chat

7179
03:01:40,580 --> 03:01:41,260
box.

7180
03:01:41,260 --> 03:01:42,490
Extraordinary. And that's the

7181
03:01:42,490 --> 03:01:43,740
freeze frame you want, really,

7182
03:01:43,740 --> 03:01:44,260
isn't it?

7183
03:01:51,620 --> 03:01:53,620
We do...

7184
03:01:53,620 --> 03:01:56,590
And the nominees for the Living

7185
03:01:56,590 --> 03:01:58,620
Webby are...

7186
03:01:59,620 --> 03:02:00,620
Masonic Hall.

7187
03:02:00,620 --> 03:02:08,620
Blue Mountain Arts.

7188
03:02:10,620 --> 03:02:11,620
Epicurious.

7189
03:02:15,620 --> 03:02:21,080
I think that's still going.

7190
03:02:22,620 --> 03:02:23,620
Garden.com.

7191
03:02:23,620 --> 03:02:24,940
Sounds basic.

7192
03:02:28,620 --> 03:02:31,620
Martha Stewart.com.

7193
03:02:32,620 --> 03:02:32,620
Enough.

7194
03:02:32,620 --> 03:02:33,180
Enough.

7195
03:02:33,620 --> 03:02:35,160
That caused a little bit of

7196
03:02:35,160 --> 03:02:36,620
consternation.

7197
03:02:36,620 --> 03:02:38,420
Some people kind of laughing.

7198
03:02:38,620 --> 03:02:39,930
Oh, I don't know what the

7199
03:02:39,930 --> 03:02:41,800
backstory is there on that.

7200
03:02:42,620 --> 03:02:42,620
And Swoon.

7201
03:02:43,620 --> 03:02:44,620
Swoon.

7202
03:02:45,620 --> 03:03:02,800
Epicurious!

7203
03:03:02,800 --> 03:03:05,280
What the hell?

7204
03:03:05,600 --> 03:03:06,800
It's about food. It's for

7205
03:03:06,800 --> 03:03:07,740
people who eat.

7206
03:03:08,980 --> 03:03:11,250
You find 10,000 recipes in a

7207
03:03:11,250 --> 03:03:13,140
fabulous searchable database.

7208
03:03:13,340 --> 03:03:14,080
You get menus.

7209
03:03:14,340 --> 03:03:16,170
Beautiful recipe for key lime

7210
03:03:16,170 --> 03:03:16,620
pie.

7211
03:03:18,780 --> 03:03:20,520
Half a cup of cold lard.

7212
03:03:21,400 --> 03:03:22,700
Two and a half tablespoons of

7213
03:03:22,700 --> 03:03:24,680
cold unsalted butter.

7214
03:03:24,860 --> 03:03:26,400
Two cups of all-purpose flour.

7215
03:03:26,960 --> 03:03:28,240
Half a teaspoon of salt.

7216
03:03:28,780 --> 03:03:30,140
A third cup of ice water.

7217
03:03:31,140 --> 03:03:32,040
And pie weights.

7218
03:03:32,620 --> 03:03:33,540
Whatever the fuck that is.

7219
03:03:33,640 --> 03:03:35,580
Pie weights or raw rice for

7220
03:03:35,580 --> 03:03:36,540
waiting.

7221
03:03:38,720 --> 03:03:38,950
Like I said, a fabulous

7222
03:03:38,950 --> 03:03:40,440
community.

7223
03:03:40,560 --> 03:03:41,420
A recipe swap.

7224
03:03:41,980 --> 03:03:42,820
Wine database.

7225
03:03:43,060 --> 03:03:45,170
And lots of other information

7226
03:03:45,170 --> 03:03:46,220
about food.

7227
03:03:46,400 --> 03:03:46,920
Thank you.

7228
03:03:47,400 --> 03:03:50,100
Pie weights are after you.

7229
03:03:51,240 --> 03:03:55,580
Living La Vida Loka there.

7230
03:03:55,580 --> 03:03:55,920
Is this thing edible?

7231
03:03:55,920 --> 03:03:56,880
Ricky Martin.

7232
03:03:57,420 --> 03:03:58,660
Was it ever really explained to

7233
03:03:58,660 --> 03:04:00,180
us who these ladies are?

7234
03:04:01,580 --> 03:04:02,600
It was like the last award was

7235
03:04:02,600 --> 03:04:04,470
given and then they were

7236
03:04:04,470 --> 03:04:06,160
straight there.

7237
03:04:06,520 --> 03:04:11,340
Is this thing edible?

7238
03:04:11,340 --> 03:04:13,340
Manja.

7239
03:04:15,340 --> 03:04:15,740
Manja.

7240
03:04:17,260 --> 03:04:17,700
Manja.

7241
03:04:17,780 --> 03:04:18,540
Thank you very much.

7242
03:04:19,260 --> 03:04:19,780
Manja.

7243
03:04:19,920 --> 03:04:20,910
And now on to the nominees for

7244
03:04:20,910 --> 03:04:21,800
the film wedding.

7245
03:04:22,560 --> 03:04:24,340
And they are...

7246
03:04:24,880 --> 03:04:29,100
Maybe it means eat.

7247
03:04:29,500 --> 03:04:31,000
Because mange is to eat.

7248
03:04:31,060 --> 03:04:31,900
Isn't it in French?

7249
03:04:32,400 --> 03:04:32,940
Manja.

7250
03:04:37,300 --> 03:04:38,480
Atom Phil!

7251
03:04:38,480 --> 03:04:38,840
Hey.

7252
03:04:39,840 --> 03:04:41,300
Are these my feast?

7253
03:04:41,380 --> 03:04:42,600
Thank you very much for the tip.

7254
03:04:44,620 --> 03:04:46,380
Drew's Script-o-rama!

7255
03:04:51,380 --> 03:04:52,600
I film!

7256
03:04:55,260 --> 03:04:56,560
An apple thing, no?

7257
03:04:58,840 --> 03:05:00,840
The internet movie database!

7258
03:05:01,560 --> 03:05:03,780
Still at it to this very day.

7259
03:05:06,180 --> 03:05:08,160
And protein tea!

7260
03:05:08,340 --> 03:05:09,720
Protein!

7261
03:05:11,720 --> 03:05:12,090
Just a fucking TV channel

7262
03:05:12,090 --> 03:05:15,140
online about protein, look.

7263
03:05:15,380 --> 03:05:15,920
Protein!

7264
03:05:17,140 --> 03:05:17,990
They cut him out then when he

7265
03:05:17,990 --> 03:05:19,320
said protein.

7266
03:05:19,880 --> 03:05:23,600
A protein rapidly relieves pain.

7267
03:05:29,600 --> 03:05:30,980
It's gotta be IMDB.

7268
03:05:30,980 --> 03:05:34,180
It has to be.

7269
03:05:34,180 --> 03:05:37,630
It's the only gig in town, isn't

7270
03:05:37,630 --> 03:05:38,300
it?

7271
03:05:38,980 --> 03:05:40,980
Atom Phil!

7272
03:05:40,980 --> 03:05:41,980
Atom Phil!

7273
03:05:41,980 --> 03:05:44,360
Atom Phil!

7274
03:05:44,360 --> 03:05:44,940
Atom Phil!

7275
03:05:44,940 --> 03:05:45,900
There you have it.

7276
03:05:46,260 --> 03:05:47,810
As I said before, with Amazon

7277
03:05:47,810 --> 03:05:49,880
not picking up the award, a lot

7278
03:05:49,880 --> 03:05:51,900
of these behemoths that we know

7279
03:05:51,900 --> 03:05:52,360
and love now...

7280
03:05:52,360 --> 03:05:54,120
Is this an alien look?

7281
03:05:54,120 --> 03:05:54,120
Is this an alien look?

7282
03:05:54,120 --> 03:05:56,300
It's gonna slide into an alien

7283
03:05:56,300 --> 03:05:56,980
face.

7284
03:05:56,980 --> 03:05:59,570
Uh, they started big dot com

7285
03:05:59,570 --> 03:06:00,780
bubble bursts.

7286
03:06:00,780 --> 03:06:01,870
They went a little bit quiet

7287
03:06:01,870 --> 03:06:03,340
for a bit, but then just...

7288
03:06:03,340 --> 03:06:04,710
They got in early was the main

7289
03:06:04,710 --> 03:06:05,240
thing.

7290
03:06:05,240 --> 03:06:06,500
It didn't matter that they

7291
03:06:06,500 --> 03:06:07,960
weren't winning their Webby

7292
03:06:07,960 --> 03:06:10,740
Award for 20 fucking... 2000.

7293
03:06:10,740 --> 03:06:13,400
They had their base set.

7294
03:06:15,080 --> 03:06:16,200
And it's not an alien.

7295
03:06:17,200 --> 03:06:18,400
This is a couple of people.

7296
03:06:31,120 --> 03:06:32,280
Thanks to the filmmakers.

7297
03:06:32,280 --> 03:06:33,280
Banana.

7298
03:06:33,280 --> 03:06:43,910
Was he part of their contingency,

7299
03:06:43,910 --> 03:06:46,900
was he?

7300
03:06:46,900 --> 03:06:49,460
Another bizarre situation.

7301
03:06:49,460 --> 03:06:50,810
The way they shuffled off and

7302
03:06:50,810 --> 03:06:51,400
left him.

7303
03:06:51,400 --> 03:06:53,520
He's obviously thought, I need

7304
03:06:53,520 --> 03:06:55,000
to have my say here.

7305
03:06:55,000 --> 03:06:56,770
Your man wasn't bringing it

7306
03:06:56,770 --> 03:06:58,380
with anything funny.

7307
03:06:58,380 --> 03:06:59,940
So I'm gonna say something

7308
03:06:59,940 --> 03:07:01,080
extremely hilarious.

7309
03:07:01,080 --> 03:07:03,080
And that resulted in...

7310
03:07:03,080 --> 03:07:04,080
Banana.

7311
03:07:04,080 --> 03:07:08,840
Presenting the Webby Award for

7312
03:07:08,840 --> 03:07:13,580
Best Humor Site, comedian and

7313
03:07:13,580 --> 03:07:18,080
actress Sandra Bernhard.

7314
03:07:18,080 --> 03:07:19,080
Nice suit.

7315
03:07:19,080 --> 03:07:20,080
She's familiar.

7316
03:07:20,080 --> 03:07:21,560
Thank you for these flowers

7317
03:07:21,560 --> 03:07:23,130
because this is really the

7318
03:07:23,130 --> 03:07:24,420
direction I want to go in my

7319
03:07:24,420 --> 03:07:27,080
own life, you know?

7320
03:07:27,080 --> 03:07:29,060
I want to go in my own life,

7321
03:07:29,060 --> 03:07:32,080
nature, introspection, beauty.

7322
03:07:32,080 --> 03:07:34,010
You see, I don't want to get

7323
03:07:34,010 --> 03:07:35,360
all caught up in the

7324
03:07:35,360 --> 03:07:37,080
technological era.

7325
03:07:37,080 --> 03:07:38,740
I don't want to be dragged down

7326
03:07:38,740 --> 03:07:40,600
the information superhighway

7327
03:07:40,600 --> 03:07:42,080
kicking and screaming.

7328
03:07:42,080 --> 03:07:43,080
No, no, no, no.

7329
03:07:43,080 --> 03:07:44,340
I'd much rather take those

7330
03:07:44,340 --> 03:07:45,730
little back roads and byways

7331
03:07:45,730 --> 03:07:47,080
and drop you a postcard.

7332
03:07:47,080 --> 03:07:49,630
I mean, you can't get the kids

7333
03:07:49,630 --> 03:07:52,080
out of the bedrooms anymore.

7334
03:07:52,080 --> 03:07:53,440
Honey, you want to go with me

7335
03:07:53,440 --> 03:07:55,080
and daddy for a little dinner?

7336
03:07:55,080 --> 03:07:56,080
No, that's okay, mom.

7337
03:07:56,080 --> 03:07:58,080
I'm on the internet.

7338
03:07:58,080 --> 03:08:00,080
I just made a new friend.

7339
03:08:00,080 --> 03:08:02,450
She's pretty and she likes me

7340
03:08:02,450 --> 03:08:03,080
too.

7341
03:08:03,080 --> 03:08:15,270
All right. Now, where are they?

7342
03:08:15,270 --> 03:08:17,100
The nominees for humor? Oh, yes.

7343
03:08:17,100 --> 03:08:18,380
They should be coming up any

7344
03:08:18,380 --> 03:08:20,590
minute. That's how funny it all

7345
03:08:20,590 --> 03:08:23,260
is. Thank you. The nominees for

7346
03:08:23,260 --> 03:08:29,760
humor. Comedy Central.

7347
03:08:29,760 --> 03:08:34,450
GWBush.com. I'd like to see

7348
03:08:34,450 --> 03:08:39,180
that. Hopefully that is being

7349
03:08:39,180 --> 03:08:44,250
cashed. Cash Patel'd somewhere

7350
03:08:44,250 --> 03:08:51,760
on the internet. GW.com. GWBush.com.

7351
03:08:51,760 --> 03:08:57,540
Leisure Town.

7352
03:08:57,540 --> 03:09:04,310
Leisure Town. The Onion. It's

7353
03:09:04,310 --> 03:09:06,910
got to be The Onion. It has to

7354
03:09:06,910 --> 03:09:09,300
be The Onion. You heard it

7355
03:09:09,300 --> 03:09:12,000
there. You heard the support

7356
03:09:12,000 --> 03:09:14,370
that they have for The Onion

7357
03:09:14,370 --> 03:09:19,540
there. And the winner is...

7358
03:09:21,540 --> 03:09:25,400
Alan Greenspan animation. Bill

7359
03:09:25,400 --> 03:09:28,020
Gates.

7360
03:09:28,540 --> 03:09:31,470
It's a play on the Budweiser

7361
03:09:31,470 --> 03:09:35,990
advert. The hilarious Budweiser

7362
03:09:35,990 --> 03:09:38,950
advert. You know, just chilling,

7363
03:09:38,950 --> 03:09:39,860
having a bud.

7364
03:09:40,020 --> 03:09:41,900
But it's Alan Greenspan, the

7365
03:09:41,900 --> 03:09:44,630
godfather of economics, and

7366
03:09:44,630 --> 03:09:48,300
Bill Billiam Gates Esquire.

7367
03:09:49,380 --> 03:09:51,360
Bought some game, Evan Wood.

7368
03:09:51,780 --> 03:09:53,000
True, true.

7369
03:09:54,180 --> 03:09:54,740
What is it?

7370
03:09:59,380 --> 03:10:00,660
Look at the phone.

7371
03:10:02,100 --> 03:10:02,340
Hello.

7372
03:10:02,820 --> 03:10:03,940
What is it?

7373
03:10:03,940 --> 03:10:04,940
What is it?

7374
03:10:06,880 --> 03:10:09,220
And the audience go crazy.

7375
03:10:09,400 --> 03:10:11,470
Apart from that man there, who

7376
03:10:11,470 --> 03:10:13,320
looks slightly Rumsfeldian.

7377
03:10:14,040 --> 03:10:15,180
Not impressed.

7378
03:10:16,200 --> 03:10:18,080
That's a slight grimace.

7379
03:10:18,400 --> 03:10:20,100
Not a laugh at all.

7380
03:10:20,100 --> 03:10:21,100
What is it?

7381
03:10:21,660 --> 03:10:22,100
Do-do-do.

7382
03:10:25,320 --> 03:10:26,000
Yo.

7383
03:10:28,420 --> 03:10:29,100
Hello.

7384
03:10:33,500 --> 03:10:34,100
Hello.

7385
03:10:37,100 --> 03:10:38,340
Is that Arnie?

7386
03:10:38,780 --> 03:10:40,540
What what does Arnold Schwarzenegger

7387
03:10:40,540 --> 03:10:41,400
got to do with this?

7388
03:10:54,780 --> 03:10:47,420
He was the governor of

7389
03:10:47,420 --> 03:10:55,790
California the governator of

7390
03:10:55,790 --> 03:10:57,860
course

7391
03:11:06,020 --> 03:11:07,500
It's all been generated just on

7392
03:11:07,500 --> 03:11:08,810
the strength of our work and

7393
03:11:08,810 --> 03:11:10,120
that's I think an important

7394
03:11:10,120 --> 03:11:11,560
thing to remember even though

7395
03:11:11,560 --> 03:11:13,140
the onion looks professional

7396
03:11:14,360 --> 03:11:15,210
It's because we just put a lot

7397
03:11:15,210 --> 03:11:17,200
of work into it and we have no

7398
03:11:17,200 --> 03:11:18,780
backup. We have no

7399
03:11:19,400 --> 03:11:20,200
You know billions and billions

7400
03:11:20,200 --> 03:11:21,740
of dollars behind us. It's just

7401
03:11:21,740 --> 03:11:23,160
seven people grinding it out in

7402
03:11:23,160 --> 03:11:24,260
Madison, Wisconsin

7403
03:11:25,100 --> 03:11:27,660
Nice great returns. I'd say

7404
03:11:27,660 --> 03:11:34,380
No, no e-bounds world. I wonder

7405
03:11:34,380 --> 03:11:40,880
where e-bounds world considered

7406
03:11:40,880 --> 03:11:45,520
too edgy for this sort of

7407
03:11:45,520 --> 03:11:47,780
situation?

7408
03:11:47,780 --> 03:11:49,690
But it probably would have been

7409
03:11:49,690 --> 03:11:51,680
the most one of the most hit up

7410
03:11:51,680 --> 03:11:51,900
sites

7411
03:11:52,700 --> 03:11:54,240
For weird and comedic content.

7412
03:11:54,240 --> 03:11:56,400
Thank you very much. There's

7413
03:11:56,400 --> 03:11:58,840
salesforce. I could only tip

7414
03:12:06,540 --> 03:12:08,540
How was that about I could only

7415
03:12:08,540 --> 03:12:13,920
they said I could only

7416
03:12:23,920 --> 03:12:26,120
And now the nominees rubbish

7417
03:12:26,120 --> 03:12:28,970
you had to pay to enter doubt e-bounds

7418
03:12:28,970 --> 03:12:29,880
were arsed

7419
03:12:30,840 --> 03:12:31,760
That's the case it really takes

7420
03:12:31,760 --> 03:12:33,140
the shine off the whole

7421
03:12:33,140 --> 03:12:35,280
ceremony indeed the people were

7422
03:12:35,280 --> 03:12:36,690
actually just paying to be

7423
03:12:36,690 --> 03:12:37,540
considered

7424
03:12:38,680 --> 03:12:40,280
Nominable for the news webby

7425
03:12:40,280 --> 03:12:41,480
and they are

7426
03:12:42,760 --> 03:12:44,760
Miss Lara Croft

7427
03:12:44,860 --> 03:12:46,860
Perfect timing on that

7428
03:12:48,400 --> 03:12:51,100
Miss Lara Croft nominated for

7429
03:12:51,100 --> 03:12:52,490
the best news website at the

7430
03:12:52,490 --> 03:12:54,020
webby. Thank you very much Paul

7431
03:12:54,020 --> 03:12:54,520
Meskel

7432
03:13:02,020 --> 03:13:04,020
ABC News.com

7433
03:13:06,820 --> 03:13:09,360
MSNBC probably in this no?

7434
03:13:09,360 --> 03:13:11,460
Media attack

7435
03:13:11,460 --> 03:13:15,430
New screen new screen new

7436
03:13:15,430 --> 03:13:21,250
screen new Gingrich Jim Romanesco's

7437
03:13:21,250 --> 03:13:23,040
media news

7438
03:13:27,900 --> 03:13:31,100
New com news.com

7439
03:13:40,620 --> 03:13:42,940
Just goes to CNET. The rhetoric

7440
03:13:42,940 --> 03:13:44,480
will smother you. Thank you

7441
03:13:44,480 --> 03:13:45,740
very much there

7442
03:13:46,860 --> 03:13:48,860
Gay Burns loafers

7443
03:13:49,500 --> 03:13:52,150
Perched. It just goes to CNET

7444
03:13:52,150 --> 03:13:54,200
news.com so fair play on them

7445
03:13:54,200 --> 03:13:55,740
for getting that domain

7446
03:13:57,020 --> 03:13:58,140
Um

7447
03:13:58,440 --> 03:14:00,270
CNET I think that's a cyber

7448
03:14:00,270 --> 03:14:02,350
news. I don't think that's like

7449
03:14:02,350 --> 03:14:03,020
news for

7450
03:14:04,300 --> 03:14:05,710
It's all fucking cyber tech

7451
03:14:05,710 --> 03:14:08,000
news. Whereas I think in the

7452
03:14:08,000 --> 03:14:08,900
awards here

7453
03:14:09,480 --> 03:14:11,480
It's just general news

7454
03:14:11,480 --> 03:14:15,720
New com.com. It is CNET already

7455
03:14:15,720 --> 03:14:15,720
And the winner is...

7456
03:14:15,720 --> 03:14:17,720
And the winner is...

7457
03:14:17,720 --> 03:14:31,720
And the winner is...

7458
03:14:31,720 --> 03:14:33,720
Jim Romanesco's media news.

7459
03:14:33,720 --> 03:14:38,460
Miss Lara Croft... Who the fuck

7460
03:14:38,460 --> 03:14:41,960
is Jim Romanesco?

7461
03:14:41,960 --> 03:14:41,960
Miss Lara Croft...

7462
03:14:41,960 --> 03:14:41,960
Who the fuck is Jim Romanesco?

7463
03:14:41,960 --> 03:14:41,960
Miss Lara Croft...

7464
03:14:41,960 --> 03:14:41,960
Who the fuck is Jim Romanesco?

7465
03:14:41,960 --> 03:14:41,960
Miss Lara Croft...

7466
03:14:41,960 --> 03:14:41,960
Who the fuck is Jim Romanesco?

7467
03:14:41,960 --> 03:14:41,960
Miss Lara Croft...

7468
03:14:41,960 --> 03:14:41,960
Who the fuck is Jim Romanesco?

7469
03:14:41,960 --> 03:14:41,960
Who the fuck is Jim Romanesco?

7470
03:14:41,960 --> 03:14:43,960
Who the fuck is Jim Romanesco?

7471
03:14:43,960 --> 03:14:43,960
Okay...

7472
03:14:43,960 --> 03:14:45,960
Miss Lara Croft... Okay...

7473
03:14:45,960 --> 03:14:47,960
Miss Lara Croft... Okay...

7474
03:14:47,960 --> 03:14:47,960
Thank you very much there

7475
03:14:47,960 --> 03:14:47,960
battered sausage...

7476
03:14:47,960 --> 03:14:54,200
Jim Romanesco... Jim Romanesco...

7477
03:14:54,200 --> 03:14:56,200
Jim Romanesco...

7478
03:14:56,200 --> 03:14:58,200
Thank you...

7479
03:14:58,200 --> 03:15:02,200
American reporter...

7480
03:15:02,200 --> 03:15:04,200
Eponymous blog...

7481
03:15:04,200 --> 03:15:08,200
Starbucks gossip...

7482
03:15:08,200 --> 03:15:10,440
Still going... 72...

7483
03:15:10,440 --> 03:15:14,440
Controversy...

7484
03:15:14,440 --> 03:15:20,440
It's too long to read...

7485
03:15:20,440 --> 03:15:22,440
Doesn't really look that juicy...

7486
03:15:22,440 --> 03:15:26,600
But is his website still going?

7487
03:15:26,600 --> 03:15:28,440
That's what I want to know...

7488
03:15:28,440 --> 03:15:30,440
Jim Romanesco...

7489
03:15:30,440 --> 03:15:32,360
Is it .com?

7490
03:15:32,360 --> 03:15:44,600
Jim Romanesco's...

7491
03:15:44,600 --> 03:15:46,600
Media News...

7492
03:15:46,600 --> 03:15:54,600
It's not there anymore...

7493
03:15:58,600 --> 03:15:57,820
But there's lots and lots of

7494
03:15:57,820 --> 03:16:01,400
articles about him...

7495
03:16:01,400 --> 03:16:02,600
If you want to follow up...

7496
03:16:02,600 --> 03:16:03,950
This episode with a bit of

7497
03:16:03,950 --> 03:16:05,160
Romanesco...

7498
03:16:05,160 --> 03:16:06,360
History and...

7499
03:16:06,360 --> 03:16:08,200
Lore as they say...

7500
03:16:08,200 --> 03:16:09,240
It's all there for you...

7501
03:16:12,920 --> 03:16:13,640
Oh it's not you...

7502
03:16:13,640 --> 03:16:15,800
I love it's him...

7503
03:16:15,800 --> 03:16:16,280
Here he comes...

7504
03:16:18,120 --> 03:16:19,960
We're clapping the wrong person...

7505
03:16:19,960 --> 03:16:20,440
What?

7506
03:16:20,440 --> 03:16:21,320
Have they got it wrong?

7507
03:16:21,960 --> 03:16:22,520
Or they have it?

7508
03:16:27,160 --> 03:16:28,600
I am not Jim Romanesco...

7509
03:16:30,840 --> 03:16:32,040
Don't like the tone...

7510
03:16:32,040 --> 03:16:33,640
Of some of these guys...

7511
03:16:33,640 --> 03:16:34,600
They're not doing themselves...

7512
03:16:34,600 --> 03:16:35,640
A good service...

7513
03:16:35,640 --> 03:16:37,000
Knowing that this is going to

7514
03:16:37,000 --> 03:16:38,520
go out there forever...

7515
03:16:38,520 --> 03:16:39,400
In perpetuity...

7516
03:16:39,400 --> 03:16:40,180
People are going to be watching

7517
03:16:40,180 --> 03:16:40,680
it back...

7518
03:16:40,680 --> 03:16:41,640
In 25 years time...

7519
03:16:41,640 --> 03:16:44,680
Not really liking the tone...

7520
03:16:44,680 --> 03:16:46,070
Thank you very much for the tip

7521
03:16:46,070 --> 03:16:46,920
there...

7522
03:16:46,920 --> 03:16:47,480
Skynet...

7523
03:16:47,480 --> 03:16:48,760
And...

7524
03:16:48,760 --> 03:16:49,480
C. Murphy...

7525
03:16:49,480 --> 03:16:52,280
Real talk...

7526
03:16:52,280 --> 03:16:53,160
You say Skynet...

7527
03:16:53,160 --> 03:16:54,480
All these awards...

7528
03:16:54,480 --> 03:16:55,680
Are either...

7529
03:16:55,680 --> 03:16:56,320
Are bought...

7530
03:16:56,320 --> 03:16:57,840
Either for entry or votes...

7531
03:16:57,840 --> 03:16:58,480
Peace be with you...

7532
03:16:58,480 --> 03:16:59,860
Presenting the Webby in the

7533
03:16:59,860 --> 03:17:01,480
Print and Z category...

7534
03:17:01,480 --> 03:17:02,000
Yeah...

7535
03:17:02,000 --> 03:17:03,150
It cheapens the whole Webby

7536
03:17:03,150 --> 03:17:03,880
thing...

7537
03:17:03,880 --> 03:17:04,840
I've seen some...

7538
03:17:04,840 --> 03:17:05,920
Places that are like...

7539
03:17:05,920 --> 03:17:06,920
Oh we won a Webby...

7540
03:17:06,920 --> 03:17:08,000
And all this sort of crack...

7541
03:17:08,000 --> 03:17:08,480
But I mean...

7542
03:17:08,480 --> 03:17:08,680
Yeah...

7543
03:17:08,680 --> 03:17:09,300
Did you win it?

7544
03:17:09,400 --> 03:17:10,730
You fucking bought the thing

7545
03:17:10,730 --> 03:17:11,460
man...

7546
03:17:11,460 --> 03:17:12,860
And then the event itself was

7547
03:17:12,860 --> 03:17:13,740
rubbish...

7548
03:17:13,740 --> 03:17:15,060
It was like a fucking funeral...

7549
03:17:15,060 --> 03:17:16,230
The former editor of Vanity

7550
03:17:16,230 --> 03:17:16,940
Fair...

7551
03:17:16,940 --> 03:17:18,100
And the New Yorker...

7552
03:17:18,100 --> 03:17:19,100
Tina Brown...

7553
03:17:19,100 --> 03:17:20,020
There was always more to tea

7554
03:17:20,020 --> 03:17:20,860
and crumpets...

7555
03:17:20,860 --> 03:17:21,580
Than met the eyes...

7556
03:17:21,580 --> 03:17:22,420
The truth...

7557
03:17:22,420 --> 03:17:24,860
At least where I come from...

7558
03:17:24,860 --> 03:17:25,260
It's great...

7559
03:17:29,260 --> 03:17:30,140
It's great to be here...

7560
03:17:30,140 --> 03:17:31,140
I've never seen so many snazzy

7561
03:17:31,140 --> 03:17:32,180
revolutionaries...

7562
03:17:32,180 --> 03:17:32,780
Where I come from...

7563
03:17:32,780 --> 03:17:33,540
Tina Brown...

7564
03:17:33,540 --> 03:17:34,460
There was always more to tea

7565
03:17:34,460 --> 03:17:35,300
and crumpets...

7566
03:17:35,300 --> 03:17:36,060
Than met the eyes...

7567
03:17:36,060 --> 03:17:36,860
The truth...

7568
03:17:36,860 --> 03:17:38,460
At least where I come from...

7569
03:17:38,460 --> 03:17:40,300
It's great to be here...

7570
03:17:40,300 --> 03:17:41,330
I've never seen so many snazzy

7571
03:17:41,330 --> 03:17:42,320
revolutionaries...

7572
03:17:42,320 --> 03:17:43,160
In my life...

7573
03:17:43,160 --> 03:17:44,760
And you are revolutionaries...

7574
03:17:44,760 --> 03:17:45,900
Because you've changed the way

7575
03:17:45,900 --> 03:17:46,940
we communicate...

7576
03:17:46,940 --> 03:17:48,080
The voices you unleashed...

7577
03:17:48,080 --> 03:17:49,050
Have created a global

7578
03:17:49,050 --> 03:17:50,120
revolution...

7579
03:17:50,120 --> 03:17:50,800
And at Talk...

7580
03:17:50,800 --> 03:17:51,480
We love it...

7581
03:17:51,480 --> 03:17:52,780
We salute the creative anarchy

7582
03:17:52,780 --> 03:17:53,680
of the web...

7583
03:17:53,680 --> 03:17:54,450
And we thank you for giving

7584
03:17:54,450 --> 03:17:55,020
readers...

7585
03:17:55,020 --> 03:17:56,740
The ability to talk back...

7586
03:17:56,740 --> 03:17:58,020
Immediately...

7587
03:17:58,020 --> 03:17:59,760
And the nominees in the print

7588
03:17:59,760 --> 03:18:01,760
and zine category are...

7589
03:18:01,760 --> 03:18:03,300
Zine...

7590
03:18:03,300 --> 03:18:10,300
Feed magazine...

7591
03:18:10,300 --> 03:18:18,840
Jim Romanesco's media news...

7592
03:18:18,840 --> 03:18:19,760
He's in it again...

7593
03:18:19,760 --> 03:18:21,160
The old schly dog...

7594
03:18:21,160 --> 03:18:26,160
Nerve.com...

7595
03:18:26,160 --> 03:18:27,320
Nerve.com...

7596
03:18:27,320 --> 03:18:31,600
That's a sex website...

7597
03:18:31,600 --> 03:18:33,180
Salon.com...

7598
03:18:33,180 --> 03:18:35,180
Still going...

7599
03:18:38,780 --> 03:18:40,420
Slash dot...

7600
03:18:40,420 --> 03:18:42,180
Slash dot...

7601
03:18:42,180 --> 03:18:49,180
Thank you...

7602
03:18:49,180 --> 03:18:52,420
She wrote a speech on the plane...

7603
03:18:52,420 --> 03:18:53,640
Thank you very much for the tip...

7604
03:18:53,640 --> 03:19:04,040
And the webby goes to...

7605
03:19:04,040 --> 03:19:07,040
Nerve.com...

7606
03:19:07,040 --> 03:19:11,040
It's a thoughtful magazine...

7607
03:19:11,040 --> 03:19:13,120
About sex, gender and culture...

7608
03:19:13,120 --> 03:19:14,180
For both men and women...

7609
03:19:14,180 --> 03:19:14,920
Half our readers...

7610
03:19:14,920 --> 03:19:16,300
Half our readers are women...

7611
03:19:16,300 --> 03:19:16,840
In effect...

7612
03:19:16,840 --> 03:19:17,920
We're replacing Playboy...

7613
03:19:17,920 --> 03:19:18,920
We're the next Playboy...

7614
03:19:18,920 --> 03:19:20,220
This time it's more intelligent...

7615
03:19:20,220 --> 03:19:22,000
And it incorporates the...

7616
03:19:22,000 --> 03:19:23,120
Opinions and perspectives of

7617
03:19:23,120 --> 03:19:23,780
women...

7618
03:19:23,780 --> 03:19:24,580
There you have it...

7619
03:19:24,580 --> 03:19:26,820
A more intelligent Playboy...

7620
03:19:26,820 --> 03:19:29,180
Which respects women...

7621
03:19:29,180 --> 03:19:29,680
Don't...

7622
03:19:29,680 --> 03:19:32,140
I'm not sure it's still going...

7623
03:19:32,140 --> 03:19:34,320
But they bought their award...

7624
03:19:34,320 --> 03:19:36,180
Fair play to them...

7625
03:19:36,180 --> 03:19:37,760
They paid the fee...

7626
03:19:37,760 --> 03:19:38,470
And they came away with

7627
03:19:38,470 --> 03:19:39,180
something...

7628
03:19:43,180 --> 03:19:44,640
It is still going...

7629
03:19:44,640 --> 03:19:46,180
Says Fitz Flips...

7630
03:19:53,620 --> 03:19:54,580
He's tall enough...

7631
03:19:57,280 --> 03:19:58,080
Shucks...

7632
03:19:58,980 --> 03:20:00,780
Screw with your mind...

7633
03:20:00,780 --> 03:20:01,680
Oh god...

7634
03:20:01,680 --> 03:20:02,280
Does it get...

7635
03:20:02,280 --> 03:20:03,210
Does it not get weird at any

7636
03:20:03,210 --> 03:20:03,840
point...

7637
03:20:03,840 --> 03:20:05,760
Is there any just normal people...

7638
03:20:05,760 --> 03:20:09,980
You paid for the fucking thing...

7639
03:20:09,980 --> 03:20:10,760
Just pretend to be normal...

7640
03:20:10,760 --> 03:20:12,760
Just pretend to be normal...

7641
03:20:12,760 --> 03:20:14,760
Shucks...

7642
03:20:14,760 --> 03:20:17,760
Screw with your mind...

7643
03:20:17,760 --> 03:20:21,760
That's it for part one...

7644
03:20:21,760 --> 03:20:22,580
That's it for part one...

7645
03:20:22,580 --> 03:20:23,760
Of our special coverage...

7646
03:20:23,760 --> 03:20:24,760
Of the Webby Awards...

7647
03:20:24,760 --> 03:20:25,980
Lots of Webby's...

7648
03:20:25,980 --> 03:20:26,760
Still to be given away...

7649
03:20:26,760 --> 03:20:28,180
We'll have it all for you...

7650
03:20:28,180 --> 03:20:28,760
Next week once again...

7651
03:20:28,760 --> 03:20:30,760
Here at the Net Cafe...

7652
03:20:30,760 --> 03:20:31,860
No thanks...

7653
03:20:31,860 --> 03:20:32,760
No thanks to you...

7654
03:20:33,760 --> 03:20:34,760
It felt...

7655
03:20:34,760 --> 03:20:35,900
Like a bit of a...

7656
03:20:35,900 --> 03:20:36,760
Foned in episode...

7657
03:20:36,760 --> 03:20:37,760
Episode...

7658
03:20:37,760 --> 03:20:38,760
Music and memories...

7659
03:20:38,760 --> 03:20:39,760
From the 50s...

7660
03:20:39,760 --> 03:20:39,760
Maybe...

7661
03:20:39,760 --> 03:20:40,760
Maybe...

7662
03:20:40,760 --> 03:20:40,980
Maybe I'll be...

7663
03:20:40,980 --> 03:20:42,160
I'll be arse tackling...

7664
03:20:42,160 --> 03:20:43,060
The second part...

7665
03:20:43,060 --> 03:20:43,760
Of the Webby Awards...

7666
03:20:43,760 --> 03:20:44,820
2000...

7667
03:20:44,820 --> 03:20:45,760
Brought to you by Net Cafe...

7668
03:20:45,760 --> 03:20:47,760
But it doesn't look likely...

7669
03:20:47,760 --> 03:20:48,760
I'd like a traditional...

7670
03:20:49,760 --> 03:20:50,760
Meat and two veg...

7671
03:20:50,760 --> 03:20:52,140
Sort of fucking...

7672
03:20:52,140 --> 03:20:52,760
Net Cafe episode...

7673
03:20:52,760 --> 03:20:54,760
I don't want any of this...

7674
03:20:55,320 --> 03:20:55,760
Masonic...

7675
03:20:56,440 --> 03:20:56,940
Hall...

7676
03:20:56,940 --> 03:20:58,180
Auditorium bollocks...

7677
03:20:58,180 --> 03:20:58,760
That we've just seen...

7678
03:20:59,320 --> 03:21:00,040
Then again...

7679
03:21:00,040 --> 03:21:00,920
Thank you very much...

7680
03:21:00,920 --> 03:21:01,600
For joining me...

7681
03:21:01,600 --> 03:21:02,720
On tonight's edition...

7682
03:21:02,720 --> 03:21:04,760
Of whatever this stream was...

7683
03:21:05,420 --> 03:21:05,920
It's always...

7684
03:21:05,920 --> 03:21:06,420
I agree...

7685
03:21:06,420 --> 03:21:07,900
After buying some new clobber...

7686
03:21:07,900 --> 03:21:08,760
Round up the boys...

7687
03:21:08,760 --> 03:21:09,620
To come pointing...

7688
03:21:09,620 --> 03:21:10,580
I want the whole town...

7689
03:21:10,580 --> 03:21:10,760
To see me...

7690
03:21:14,760 --> 03:21:20,760
Thank you very much...

7691
03:21:21,500 --> 03:21:22,660
For that...

7692
03:21:22,660 --> 03:21:24,680
Unbelievable tip there...

7693
03:21:24,680 --> 03:21:25,100
Jimmy...

7694
03:21:25,100 --> 03:21:26,060
Huxstabation...

7695
03:21:26,060 --> 03:21:26,680
And...

7696
03:21:26,680 --> 03:21:27,660
Dee as well...

7697
03:21:27,660 --> 03:21:28,480
Where can I watch...

7698
03:21:28,480 --> 03:21:29,700
Begrudgement News...

7699
03:21:29,700 --> 03:21:30,880
I don't know...

7700
03:21:30,880 --> 03:21:31,900
It's Gonzo...

7701
03:21:31,900 --> 03:21:32,840
As was...

7702
03:21:32,840 --> 03:21:34,400
The stream from earlier on...

7703
03:21:34,400 --> 03:21:34,740
You see...

7704
03:21:34,740 --> 03:21:36,040
When a stream like that...

7705
03:21:36,040 --> 03:21:36,900
Occurs...

7706
03:21:36,900 --> 03:21:38,740
It's gonna bring the channel...

7707
03:21:38,740 --> 03:21:39,900
Into disrepute...

7708
03:21:39,900 --> 03:21:42,340
Which is already the case...

7709
03:21:42,340 --> 03:21:43,900
Until the 8th of December...

7710
03:21:44,720 --> 03:21:45,520
This channel...

7711
03:21:45,520 --> 03:21:46,300
Is under...

7712
03:21:46,300 --> 03:21:47,200
An effective...

7713
03:21:47,200 --> 03:21:48,620
Warning by the YouTube...

7714
03:21:48,620 --> 03:21:48,900
Goons...

7715
03:21:49,520 --> 03:21:50,900
I've explained this...

7716
03:21:50,900 --> 03:21:52,160
I took part...

7717
03:21:52,160 --> 03:21:53,940
In their re-education program...

7718
03:21:53,940 --> 03:21:54,600
I passed...

7719
03:21:54,600 --> 03:21:55,560
With flying colours...

7720
03:21:55,560 --> 03:21:57,660
But I can't afford...

7721
03:21:57,660 --> 03:21:58,520
To have that...

7722
03:21:58,520 --> 03:21:59,020
That...

7723
03:21:59,020 --> 03:22:01,060
Thanksgiving Day Parade...

7724
03:22:01,060 --> 03:22:01,820
On the channel...

7725
03:22:01,820 --> 03:22:03,260
They'll take me down...

7726
03:22:03,260 --> 03:22:04,260
Retrospectively...

7727
03:22:04,260 --> 03:22:05,260
They work like that...

7728
03:22:05,260 --> 03:22:05,940
You know...

7729
03:22:05,940 --> 03:22:06,440
Even though...

7730
03:22:06,440 --> 03:22:07,500
There probably is a case...

7731
03:22:07,500 --> 03:22:08,920
To be made for like...

7732
03:22:08,920 --> 03:22:09,180
You know...

7733
03:22:09,180 --> 03:22:10,180
Subverting the thing...

7734
03:22:10,180 --> 03:22:11,240
The thing and saying...

7735
03:22:11,240 --> 03:22:11,440
Well...

7736
03:22:11,440 --> 03:22:13,120
You made a satirical...

7737
03:22:13,120 --> 03:22:13,400
Or...

7738
03:22:13,400 --> 03:22:14,680
Or even a parody...

7739
03:22:14,680 --> 03:22:15,540
Of like a...

7740
03:22:15,540 --> 03:22:16,540
A commentary on...

7741
03:22:16,540 --> 03:22:17,900
On an event...

7742
03:22:17,900 --> 03:22:18,960
It's still...

7743
03:22:18,960 --> 03:22:20,460
You're not reasoning...

7744
03:22:20,460 --> 03:22:21,380
With a human...

7745
03:22:21,380 --> 03:22:21,840
It's a...

7746
03:22:21,840 --> 03:22:23,020
It's an algorithm...

7747
03:22:23,020 --> 03:22:24,020
And the robot...

7748
03:22:24,020 --> 03:22:25,580
Doesn't fucking talk to you...

7749
03:22:25,580 --> 03:22:25,920
You know...

7750
03:22:25,920 --> 03:22:26,960
The robot tells you...

7751
03:22:26,960 --> 03:22:27,300
What...

7752
03:22:27,300 --> 03:22:28,380
What it's gonna do...

7753
03:22:28,380 --> 03:22:29,960
And then it fucking does it...

7754
03:22:29,960 --> 03:22:30,960
Thank you very...

7755
03:22:30,960 --> 03:22:31,260
Very...

7756
03:22:31,260 --> 03:22:32,280
Very much there...

7757
03:22:32,280 --> 03:22:32,800
Jimmy...

7758
03:22:32,800 --> 03:22:33,380
For the tip...

7759
03:22:33,380 --> 03:22:34,280
Very very kind of you...

7760
03:22:34,280 --> 03:22:35,540
And to everybody else as well...

7761
03:22:35,540 --> 03:22:36,440
It's always...

7762
03:22:36,440 --> 03:22:37,880
An absolute pleasure...

7763
03:22:37,880 --> 03:22:38,380
To be able to...

7764
03:22:38,380 --> 03:22:39,760
Peruse this gallery...

7765
03:22:39,760 --> 03:22:41,100
Of absolute...

7766
03:22:41,100 --> 03:22:42,220
Schlock...

7767
03:22:42,220 --> 03:22:42,860
And...

7768
03:22:42,860 --> 03:22:43,940
Enjoy some of the sights...

7769
03:22:43,940 --> 03:22:44,700
And scenes...

7770
03:22:44,700 --> 03:22:45,540
Didn't like that...

7771
03:22:45,540 --> 03:22:46,320
Didn't like it...

7772
03:22:46,320 --> 03:22:47,300
Didn't work out for me...

7773
03:22:47,300 --> 03:22:48,380
That episode...

7774
03:22:48,380 --> 03:22:50,100
The crons was good...

7775
03:22:50,100 --> 03:22:51,680
But as I say...

7776
03:22:51,680 --> 03:22:53,040
Business as usual...

7777
03:22:53,040 --> 03:22:54,240
With the next...

7778
03:22:54,240 --> 03:22:55,040
Nescafé...

7779
03:22:55,040 --> 03:22:55,740
Nescafé...

7780
03:22:55,740 --> 03:22:57,240
Whatever you want to call that...

7781
03:22:57,240 --> 03:22:58,260
And...

7782
03:22:58,260 --> 03:22:59,240
Big big thanks as well...

7783
03:22:59,240 --> 03:22:59,960
To Dara Dermondi...

7784
03:22:59,960 --> 03:23:01,200
Not just for the tip...

7785
03:23:01,200 --> 03:23:02,420
But for the cracking...

7786
03:23:02,420 --> 03:23:03,020
Site...

7787
03:23:03,020 --> 03:23:03,900
That he has...

7788
03:23:03,900 --> 03:23:05,040
Created there...

7789
03:23:05,040 --> 03:23:05,360
It's...

7790
03:23:05,360 --> 03:23:06,300
It's a real...

7791
03:23:06,300 --> 03:23:07,700
Wonderland...

7792
03:23:07,700 --> 03:23:08,360
Of a site...

7793
03:23:08,360 --> 03:23:09,900
I can't...

7794
03:23:09,900 --> 03:23:11,060
Say thank you enough...

7795
03:23:11,060 --> 03:23:11,380
And...

7796
03:23:11,380 --> 03:23:12,660
Didn't really get to test out...

7797
03:23:12,660 --> 03:23:13,620
Any of the new features...

7798
03:23:13,620 --> 03:23:14,500
That's gonna come...

7799
03:23:14,500 --> 03:23:15,980
In time...

7800
03:23:15,980 --> 03:23:16,900
All I will say is...

7801
03:23:16,900 --> 03:23:17,540
Good night...

7802
03:23:17,540 --> 03:23:18,820
And thank you very much...

7803
03:23:18,820 --> 03:23:20,120
And all the best...

7804
03:23:20,120 --> 03:23:20,720
To you...

7805
03:23:20,720 --> 03:23:21,580
And yours...

7806
03:23:21,580 --> 03:23:22,880
This November...

7807
03:23:22,880 --> 03:23:23,980
The 28th...

7808
03:23:23,980 --> 03:23:25,120
We are in...

7809
03:23:25,120 --> 03:23:26,160
November the 28th...

7810
03:23:26,160 --> 03:23:27,320
I'm gonna go away now...

7811
03:23:27,320 --> 03:23:28,100
And not...

7812
03:23:28,100 --> 03:23:29,080
Watch Nazis...

7813
03:23:29,080 --> 03:23:30,560
Versus Freemasons...

7814
03:23:30,560 --> 03:23:31,940
Or the man who murdered...

7815
03:23:31,940 --> 03:23:32,820
77 people...

7816
03:23:32,820 --> 03:23:33,500
Killing spree...

7817
03:23:33,500 --> 03:23:34,260
HD...

7818
03:23:34,260 --> 03:23:35,820
True lives...

7819
03:23:35,820 --> 03:23:38,340
I don't wanna have nightmares...

7820
03:23:38,340 --> 03:23:39,800
But all the best...

7821
03:23:39,800 --> 03:23:40,880
And...

7822
03:23:40,880 --> 03:23:42,180
See you later...

7823
03:23:42,180 --> 03:23:42,920
Thank you very much...

7824
03:23:42,920 --> 03:23:44,600
Who won the millionaire episode...

7825
03:23:44,600 --> 03:23:45,560
That'll have to come on another

7826
03:23:45,560 --> 03:23:46,080
time...

7827
03:23:46,080 --> 03:23:47,000
Thank you very much...

7828
03:23:47,000 --> 03:23:47,640
Good night...

7829
03:23:47,640 --> 03:23:48,400
We'll see ya...

7830
03:23:48,400 --> 03:23:48,880
Bye bye...

7831
03:23:48,880 --> 03:24:01,420
Good night from...

7832
03:24:01,420 --> 03:24:02,340
Good night from me...

7833
03:24:02,340 --> 03:24:04,680
And from him as well...

7834
03:24:04,680 --> 03:24:06,340
All the best...

7835
03:24:06,340 --> 03:24:07,800
The Computer Chronicles...

7836
03:24:07,800 --> 03:24:08,000
The Computer Chronicles...

7837
03:24:08,000 --> 03:24:09,180
Is made possible in part...

7838
03:24:09,180 --> 03:24:09,800
By CompuServe...

7839
03:24:09,800 --> 03:24:11,420
Featuring an online...

7840
03:24:11,420 --> 03:24:12,600
Reference library...

7841
03:24:12,600 --> 03:24:13,800
Wall Street reports...

7842
03:24:13,800 --> 03:24:15,260
At home shopping...

7843
03:24:15,260 --> 03:24:16,800
Airline reservations...

7844
03:24:16,800 --> 03:24:17,480
Games...

7845
03:24:17,480 --> 03:24:18,800
And hundreds of other services...

7846
03:24:18,800 --> 03:24:20,800
CompuServe...

7847
03:24:20,800 --> 03:24:21,800
Helping people...

7848
03:24:21,800 --> 03:24:22,340
People...

7849
03:24:22,340 --> 03:24:22,940
Get the most...

7850
03:24:22,940 --> 03:24:24,260
From computers...

7851
03:24:24,260 --> 03:24:27,640
Additional funding...

7852
03:24:27,640 --> 03:24:28,340
Is provided by...

7853
03:24:28,340 --> 03:24:29,100
McGraw-Hill...

7854
03:24:29,100 --> 03:24:30,360
Publishers of Byte...

7855
03:24:30,360 --> 03:24:31,140
Byte's detailed...

7856
03:24:31,140 --> 03:24:31,980
Technical articles...

7857
03:24:31,980 --> 03:24:32,880
On new hardware...

7858
03:24:32,880 --> 03:24:33,420
Software...

7859
03:24:33,420 --> 03:24:34,460
And languages...

7860
03:24:34,460 --> 03:24:35,180
Cover developments...

7861
03:24:35,180 --> 03:24:36,380
In computer technology...

7862
03:24:36,380 --> 03:24:37,260
Worldwide...

7863
03:24:37,260 --> 03:25:03,140
Infamous...

7864
03:25:03,140 --> 03:25:04,100
Kiki Star Camera...

7865
03:25:04,100 --> 03:25:19,880
Infamous...

7866
03:25:19,880 --> 03:25:21,020
Kiki Star Camera...

7867
03:25:21,020 --> 03:25:22,220
Is Chip your real name...

7868
03:25:22,220 --> 03:25:22,560
By the way...

7869
03:25:22,560 --> 03:25:23,360
Or is that a persona...

7870
03:25:23,360 --> 03:25:23,880
For the website...

7871
03:25:23,880 --> 03:25:24,120
No...

7872
03:25:24,120 --> 03:25:24,620
Now it's my real name...

7873
03:25:24,620 --> 03:25:25,240
Thanks a lot Chip...

7874
03:25:25,240 --> 03:25:25,880
Sure thing...

7875
03:25:25,880 --> 03:25:27,880
Website...

7876
03:25:27,880 --> 03:25:29,040
Website...

7877
03:25:29,040 --> 03:25:30,160
Website...

7878
03:25:30,160 --> 03:25:31,160
Website...

7879
03:25:31,160 --> 03:25:32,840
Data is in the holes...

7880
03:25:32,840 --> 03:25:34,080
It's a computer concept...

7881
03:25:34,080 --> 03:25:36,280
It's a computer concept...

7882
03:25:36,280 --> 03:25:37,700
Not a human concept...

7883
03:25:37,700 --> 03:25:38,660
Well if the proof...

7884
03:25:38,660 --> 03:25:39,560
Is in the pudding...

7885
03:25:39,560 --> 03:25:40,180
The pudding...

7886
03:25:40,180 --> 03:25:40,880
The power...

7887
03:25:40,880 --> 03:25:43,220
Is really in the application...

7888
03:25:43,220 --> 03:25:44,500
I'm a Windows kind of guy...

7889
03:25:44,500 --> 03:25:45,840
On a Pentium machine...

7890
03:25:45,840 --> 03:25:47,040
I'm a Windows kind of guy...

7891
03:25:47,040 --> 03:25:47,540
Alright...

7892
03:25:47,540 --> 03:25:48,780
You don't tend to think...

7893
03:25:48,780 --> 03:25:50,100
About the hip-hop culture...

7894
03:25:50,100 --> 03:25:51,220
Fat 32...

7895
03:25:51,220 --> 03:25:52,500
All about rap music...

7896
03:25:52,500 --> 03:25:53,420
And the hip-hop scene...

7897
03:25:53,420 --> 03:25:54,560
Fat 32...

7898
03:25:54,560 --> 03:25:55,060
Twisted...

7899
03:25:55,060 --> 03:25:56,320
I don't travel in those circles...

7900
03:25:56,320 --> 03:25:57,070
I don't get to talk to those

7901
03:25:57,070 --> 03:25:57,560
guys...

7902
03:25:57,560 --> 03:25:58,020
Those guys...

7903
03:25:58,020 --> 03:25:58,820
Fat 32...

7904
03:25:58,820 --> 03:26:00,140
But I did get to talk to them...

7905
03:26:00,140 --> 03:26:00,860
In this chat room...

7906
03:26:00,860 --> 03:26:01,640
Fat 32...

7907
03:26:01,640 --> 03:26:02,560
Hip-hop chat room...

7908
03:26:02,560 --> 03:26:03,060
I went into...

7909
03:26:03,060 --> 03:26:04,800
I don't know a lot...

7910
03:26:04,800 --> 03:26:05,760
About the hip-hop scene...

7911
03:26:05,760 --> 03:26:06,440
Fat 32...

7912
03:26:06,440 --> 03:26:07,060
You really are...

7913
03:26:07,060 --> 03:26:08,400
I do now...

7914
03:26:08,400 --> 03:26:09,800
I don't travel in those circles...

7915
03:26:09,800 --> 03:26:10,560
I don't get to talk to those

7916
03:26:10,560 --> 03:26:11,080
guys...

7917
03:26:11,080 --> 03:26:12,080
Fat 32...

7918
03:26:12,080 --> 03:26:13,000
Man I learned a lot...

7919
03:26:13,000 --> 03:26:13,960
About what really goes on...

7920
03:26:13,960 --> 03:26:14,460
In that world...

7921
03:26:14,460 --> 03:26:16,460
Fat 32...

7922
03:26:16,460 --> 03:26:20,260
Fat 32...

7923
03:26:20,260 --> 03:26:20,880
What's the...