1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,600 Moondust is still a problem. 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,740 Moondust. 3 00:00:04,740 --> 00:00:34,720 Moondust. 4 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,880 Moondust is still a problem. 5 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:39,020 Moondust. 6 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:41,880 Moondust. 7 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:44,740 Moondust. 8 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:47,580 Moondust. 9 00:00:47,580 --> 00:01:02,830 I mean, that's the thing I 10 00:01:02,830 --> 00:01:13,280 shouldn't say. 11 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:14,780 But that's what people are, I 12 00:01:14,780 --> 00:01:16,640 mean, that he's this, you know. 13 00:01:17,140 --> 00:01:18,550 But he's a highly intelligent, 14 00:01:18,550 --> 00:01:19,580 what, I mean, there's 15 00:01:19,580 --> 00:01:20,910 absolutely no, and this is the 16 00:01:20,910 --> 00:01:21,830 other part that I want to 17 00:01:21,830 --> 00:01:22,720 stress with this. 18 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:24,160 I mean, it doesn't matter, they 19 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,540 won't chase people, but people 20 00:01:25,540 --> 00:01:26,820 are saying, oh, he must have 21 00:01:26,820 --> 00:01:27,500 had help. 22 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:29,760 Steve had no help. 23 00:01:29,940 --> 00:01:31,100 Steve didn't take help. 24 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:32,630 It did not take a village for 25 00:01:32,630 --> 00:01:33,200 Steve. 26 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,580 Steve was an armed, I'm sorry. 27 00:01:37,300 --> 00:01:38,160 Please don't. 28 00:01:39,300 --> 00:01:40,560 I'm using a club wheel. 29 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:41,760 I was about to use a club wheel 30 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:42,160 term. 31 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,160 This is my core armed forces. 32 00:01:45,580 --> 00:01:48,180 Steve was a standalone guy. 33 00:01:49,260 --> 00:01:49,500 Okay? 34 00:01:50,580 --> 00:01:51,100 Steve... 35 00:01:51,100 --> 00:01:51,820 Hello, everyone. 36 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,740 Merry, not Christmas. 37 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,520 It's not even Christmas yet. 38 00:01:55,540 --> 00:01:57,220 But the music is playing. 39 00:01:57,220 --> 00:01:58,380 You had to understand, Steve 40 00:01:58,380 --> 00:01:59,320 was a little quirky. 41 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,520 Here, I mean, here's the story. 42 00:02:02,900 --> 00:02:04,080 You know, here's how Steve is. 43 00:02:04,620 --> 00:02:05,960 I would go, you know, when I 44 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,370 was flying or whatever, if he 45 00:02:07,370 --> 00:02:08,670 was in town and I happened to 46 00:02:08,670 --> 00:02:10,280 be flying over, I'd stop in. 47 00:02:10,460 --> 00:02:11,590 Where, you know, we'd go to the 48 00:02:11,590 --> 00:02:12,820 hotel and stay at the hotel for 49 00:02:12,820 --> 00:02:14,050 a couple days or something and 50 00:02:14,050 --> 00:02:14,980 sit under the cabana or 51 00:02:14,980 --> 00:02:16,080 something like that. 52 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,520 But with Steve, it was... 53 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,520 It was like... 54 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,440 I want to wish you a merry day. 55 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:23,540 He needs to spend... 56 00:02:23,540 --> 00:02:25,860 I get to partake of a bunch of 57 00:02:25,860 --> 00:02:28,400 thousands of dollars of comps 58 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,820 on the hotel. 59 00:02:30,820 --> 00:02:31,690 But Steve would say, oh, can 60 00:02:31,690 --> 00:02:33,400 you go get me a sandwich? 61 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,340 Of course, I use. 62 00:02:36,820 --> 00:02:37,320 I mean, someone might not 63 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:38,400 understand that... 64 00:02:39,660 --> 00:02:40,360 There he is. 65 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:41,900 And there he was. 66 00:02:42,820 --> 00:02:43,840 You have to... 67 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,070 You would go get him a sandwich 68 00:02:45,070 --> 00:02:46,240 if you needed a sandwich. 69 00:02:46,500 --> 00:02:47,780 Go get him a sandwich. 70 00:02:48,380 --> 00:02:49,340 You know, this nonsense about 71 00:02:49,340 --> 00:02:50,660 how did he get the guns into 72 00:02:50,660 --> 00:02:51,400 the... 73 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,710 You take a $100 bill and you 74 00:02:53,710 --> 00:02:55,450 hand it to the bell cap and 75 00:02:55,450 --> 00:02:57,890 they go, oh, Mr. Pat, I'll go, 76 00:02:57,890 --> 00:02:58,480 hi. 77 00:02:58,780 --> 00:02:59,880 Oh, you got a couple bags today? 78 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,040 Okay, we'll take those up. 79 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,940 I mean, there's no magic there. 80 00:03:09,940 --> 00:03:11,520 If you want to... 81 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:12,740 If you're going to call him 82 00:03:12,740 --> 00:03:13,560 crazy... 83 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,020 If you're going to call him 84 00:03:15,020 --> 00:03:16,540 crazy because he's an angry 85 00:03:16,540 --> 00:03:17,140 person, 86 00:03:17,620 --> 00:03:18,740 then you had better call 87 00:03:18,740 --> 00:03:21,140 everybody on the news at 4 o'clock 88 00:03:21,140 --> 00:03:23,380 to 12 o'clock at night a crazy 89 00:03:23,380 --> 00:03:24,160 person. 90 00:03:24,420 --> 00:03:24,640 Okay? 91 00:03:24,820 --> 00:03:25,840 That's the end of the day. 92 00:03:26,100 --> 00:03:27,000 Was he an angel? 93 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:28,660 Of course he wasn't an angel. 94 00:03:28,660 --> 00:03:29,600 Was he an angel? 95 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,420 Of course he wasn't an angel. 96 00:03:33,420 --> 00:03:33,700 Of course he did. 97 00:03:34,260 --> 00:03:35,340 Well, I... 98 00:03:35,340 --> 00:03:36,760 But I'm not talking about that. 99 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:37,580 I mean, I... 100 00:03:37,580 --> 00:03:38,500 You know, I... 101 00:03:38,500 --> 00:03:38,500 You find... 102 00:03:38,500 --> 00:03:42,540 You find me anything, anywhere. 103 00:03:43,020 --> 00:03:43,500 People who... 104 00:03:44,380 --> 00:03:46,700 Who have no reason to tell you 105 00:03:46,700 --> 00:03:49,020 that he was a nice guy. 106 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,180 People who used to pay him rent. 107 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,340 I mean, the story about the... 108 00:03:53,340 --> 00:03:54,730 About our apartments that we 109 00:03:54,730 --> 00:03:55,180 have. 110 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,480 The guy says, oh, and by the 111 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:57,960 way, you know, the place sucked 112 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,120 when we moved... 113 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,100 When we bought it. 114 00:04:00,340 --> 00:04:01,580 We fixed it up and made a nice 115 00:04:01,580 --> 00:04:03,460 place for these people to live. 116 00:04:03,740 --> 00:04:05,360 And Steve gave him... 117 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,840 I mean, gave him cheap rent 118 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,760 because we wanted happy people. 119 00:04:09,220 --> 00:04:10,760 Nice people in our apartments. 120 00:04:11,260 --> 00:04:12,390 He said, yeah, he had a quirky 121 00:04:12,390 --> 00:04:13,300 sense of humor. 122 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:14,590 What the hell is a quirky sense 123 00:04:14,590 --> 00:04:15,140 of humor? 124 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,820 People watch movies where they 125 00:04:16,820 --> 00:04:18,160 butcher little kids. 126 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,380 What the hell are you... 127 00:04:20,380 --> 00:04:20,960 Good point. 128 00:04:21,180 --> 00:04:22,520 This is why everybody... 129 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:23,440 And here's my... 130 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:23,700 Strong. 131 00:04:23,700 --> 00:04:25,120 Strong point. 132 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:26,510 This is what everybody's so 133 00:04:26,510 --> 00:04:27,920 scared about right now. 134 00:04:28,580 --> 00:04:30,320 When Steve can do this, we are 135 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:31,780 in deep... 136 00:04:31,780 --> 00:04:32,720 Deep shit. 137 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,790 Because there's just nothing 138 00:04:35,790 --> 00:04:36,820 there. 139 00:04:37,380 --> 00:04:40,260 You find me where someone who's 140 00:04:40,260 --> 00:04:42,960 like Steve does this. 141 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,160 I hope the hell they find when 142 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,300 they do the autopsy that there's 143 00:04:49,300 --> 00:04:50,320 a tumor in his head or 144 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:51,100 something. 145 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,310 Because if they don't, we're 146 00:04:53,310 --> 00:04:54,400 all in trouble. 147 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,420 Because this is... 148 00:04:57,420 --> 00:04:58,740 Steve was just... 149 00:04:58,740 --> 00:04:59,940 I mean... 150 00:04:59,940 --> 00:05:00,800 Steve's dead. 151 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:01,970 You can't say anything bad 152 00:05:01,970 --> 00:05:03,320 about him anymore because who 153 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:03,820 cares? 154 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,360 Say whatever you want about him. 155 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:05,900 I don't... 156 00:05:05,900 --> 00:05:07,000 It's not gonna hurt me. 157 00:05:07,740 --> 00:05:09,000 Something horrible happened to 158 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:09,920 my brother. 159 00:05:10,700 --> 00:05:12,340 And whatever happened to him in 160 00:05:12,340 --> 00:05:14,560 his head that made him go over 161 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,920 the edge like this... 162 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,920 And don't... 163 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:19,990 You know, when the lights go 164 00:05:19,990 --> 00:05:20,920 out at night... 165 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:21,720 You put your head on your 166 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:22,140 pillow. 167 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:24,600 This is you and me. 168 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:27,600 I mean... 169 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:28,400 Come on, guys. 170 00:05:28,980 --> 00:05:29,900 This is what everybody's so 171 00:05:29,900 --> 00:05:31,400 scared about right now. 172 00:05:31,780 --> 00:05:32,420 Sorry about that. 173 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:33,500 You cannot have to be done. 174 00:05:33,660 --> 00:05:35,040 I sure hope so, but we have... 175 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:35,980 He's not well. 176 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:37,680 What was the other one? 177 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:38,080 It was like... 178 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:38,880 Oh, it's coming up to a good 179 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:39,400 bit, I think. 180 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,620 Someone asked me about... 181 00:05:40,620 --> 00:05:42,240 Do I know what they're... 182 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:43,820 I mean, my mom wants his... 183 00:05:43,820 --> 00:05:44,780 Her son's ashes. 184 00:05:45,780 --> 00:05:48,080 I don't have any idea how to... 185 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,400 Nobody's contacted me. 186 00:05:50,540 --> 00:05:51,740 I mean, who knows what they do. 187 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,160 Are we gonna have a... 188 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,080 Are we gonna have a funeral? 189 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,180 Steve wasn't into funerals. 190 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:58,540 Steve was into being alive 191 00:05:58,540 --> 00:05:59,060 today. 192 00:05:59,320 --> 00:05:59,720 Yeah. 193 00:06:00,220 --> 00:06:01,760 What a fucking thing to say. 194 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,860 Like, he wasn't into funerals. 195 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:05,440 He was into being alive, to be 196 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:05,980 honest. 197 00:06:07,980 --> 00:06:09,840 He didn't like funerals. 198 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,800 He was more into being alive. 199 00:06:13,140 --> 00:06:14,140 Thank you very much there. 200 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,540 Chris McBee, who says, 201 00:06:15,620 --> 00:06:17,300 Please leave my son Gax alone. 202 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:19,030 Anonymous, thank you very much 203 00:06:19,030 --> 00:06:19,840 for the tip. 204 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:20,420 Love the top. 205 00:06:20,500 --> 00:06:21,400 What range is it from? 206 00:06:21,900 --> 00:06:22,420 I don't know. 207 00:06:22,460 --> 00:06:23,670 I think it's a designer job, 208 00:06:23,670 --> 00:06:24,420 but it was a gift. 209 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:25,460 Give it to me. 210 00:06:25,460 --> 00:06:27,960 My friend Lee, thank you very 211 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,580 much for the top. 212 00:06:31,660 --> 00:06:34,660 It's a good top. 213 00:06:34,740 --> 00:06:35,640 It's a solid jumper. 214 00:06:36,300 --> 00:06:37,760 And it matches the Gax dummy as 215 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:38,400 well. 216 00:06:39,220 --> 00:06:40,430 Rea and Schlug, thank you very 217 00:06:40,430 --> 00:06:41,520 much there for the tip. 218 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,100 Hanley Mass, thank you very 219 00:06:43,100 --> 00:06:43,600 much. 220 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,570 And 12 Daisy of Christmas, 221 00:06:45,570 --> 00:06:47,480 thank you for your tip there. 222 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,620 It happened in between this 223 00:06:49,620 --> 00:06:51,600 stream and the last stream, 224 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,630 which was a Connor Williams 225 00:06:53,630 --> 00:06:55,900 stream from earlier today. 226 00:06:56,460 --> 00:06:57,690 But I'm not really into funerals 227 00:06:57,690 --> 00:06:58,340 myself. 228 00:06:58,500 --> 00:06:59,720 I'm more into being alive. 229 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,180 You wanted to have a... 230 00:07:02,180 --> 00:07:03,600 If you wanted to have a party, 231 00:07:04,220 --> 00:07:05,380 go hang out while people are 232 00:07:05,380 --> 00:07:06,040 alive. 233 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,620 That was how Steve lived. 234 00:07:08,260 --> 00:07:09,260 Funerals weren't... 235 00:07:10,260 --> 00:07:11,370 You've been able to speak with 236 00:07:11,370 --> 00:07:12,340 us so much. 237 00:07:12,340 --> 00:07:13,430 Thank you very much there, 238 00:07:13,430 --> 00:07:14,360 Garrett, for that. 239 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:15,620 We'll get into the stream in a 240 00:07:15,620 --> 00:07:16,140 minute. 241 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,300 Sorry, I just get stuck on this. 242 00:07:18,420 --> 00:07:19,360 ...so good about talking to us. 243 00:07:19,420 --> 00:07:20,560 How have you been able to keep 244 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:21,740 such a level head throughout 245 00:07:21,740 --> 00:07:22,180 all this? 246 00:07:22,420 --> 00:07:23,030 I know you said you had a 247 00:07:23,030 --> 00:07:23,900 stressful job, but... 248 00:07:23,900 --> 00:07:25,780 Because I'm an old-fashioned 249 00:07:25,780 --> 00:07:26,280 guy. 250 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,640 My life has been... 251 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,580 You know, I'm going to say my 252 00:07:30,580 --> 00:07:32,800 life hasn't been wonderful. 253 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,550 And then some poor guy who's, 254 00:07:34,550 --> 00:07:36,230 you know, got cancer and his 255 00:07:36,230 --> 00:07:37,800 mom, you know... 256 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,530 You know, someone's got a worse 257 00:07:39,530 --> 00:07:40,420 life than me. 258 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:41,640 I'm... 259 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,840 I have lived... 260 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,100 And I don't want to talk about 261 00:07:45,100 --> 00:07:46,520 me because I'm just... 262 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:47,140 I'm... 263 00:07:47,140 --> 00:07:50,720 He says that after 20 minutes 264 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,940 of non-stop chat. 265 00:07:53,700 --> 00:07:55,290 And then that's a great face as 266 00:07:55,290 --> 00:07:55,980 well. 267 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,480 It's a fantastic face. 268 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:02,520 I have lived... 269 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:03,020 I have lived... 270 00:08:03,020 --> 00:08:04,320 And I don't want to talk about 271 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:05,700 me because I'm just a... 272 00:08:05,700 --> 00:08:06,080 I'm... 273 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,040 And this is what sucks. 274 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,040 I'm going to use the same terms. 275 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:09,280 I'm just a guy. 276 00:08:09,580 --> 00:08:10,560 I'm just a guy. 277 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:11,100 Here's Eric Paddock. 278 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:11,520 I was... 279 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,460 National Bread. 280 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,660 Thanks very much for the tip. 281 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,440 It's a quirky kind of tip. 282 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:19,880 It's a quirky kind of tip that 283 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:20,760 you just said. 284 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:22,520 You're not into funerals. 285 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:24,720 You're into computer games. 286 00:08:26,060 --> 00:08:27,100 Thank you very much, National 287 00:08:27,100 --> 00:08:29,600 Bread and Garrett and Chris McBee 288 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:30,400 and SK. 289 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:31,720 The youngest son. 290 00:08:32,140 --> 00:08:35,100 I grew up with a single mom. 291 00:08:36,220 --> 00:08:37,440 Steve was like... 292 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:38,820 The dad, sir. 293 00:08:39,220 --> 00:08:39,600 I mean... 294 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:40,540 Oh, yeah. 295 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:40,880 Fuck. 296 00:08:41,740 --> 00:08:42,660 Took me camping. 297 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:48,520 Wow. 298 00:08:49,580 --> 00:08:50,720 I had a tough time. 299 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:52,070 I did dumb stuff when I was a 300 00:08:52,070 --> 00:08:52,780 teenager. 301 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:53,620 Okay? 302 00:08:54,460 --> 00:08:55,140 I didn't... 303 00:08:55,140 --> 00:08:56,440 I have no criminal record range 304 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:57,490 of that stuff because I'm 305 00:08:57,490 --> 00:08:58,940 smarter than the average bear. 306 00:08:58,940 --> 00:08:59,980 And I knew to hang out with 307 00:08:59,980 --> 00:09:01,180 people who were dumber than I 308 00:09:01,180 --> 00:09:02,510 was and who would get caught 309 00:09:02,510 --> 00:09:02,820 faster. 310 00:09:03,260 --> 00:09:03,600 Okay? 311 00:09:03,980 --> 00:09:04,460 Bottom line. 312 00:09:04,680 --> 00:09:05,300 That's how it works. 313 00:09:05,980 --> 00:09:07,080 Have you asked yourself... 314 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:07,640 I mean... 315 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,080 The face when someone asks him 316 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:10,800 a question, look, and interrupts 317 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:11,500 his flow. 318 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,600 Don't interrupt the bear. 319 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,870 When the bear is cooking, stop 320 00:09:16,870 --> 00:09:18,800 fucking asking him questions 321 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:19,760 like that. 322 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,140 Let him just do his stuff. 323 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,980 Thank you very much there, Schnuffles, 324 00:09:23,980 --> 00:09:25,100 for the tip there. 325 00:09:26,980 --> 00:09:28,340 And who would get caught faster? 326 00:09:28,500 --> 00:09:29,410 I don't think that someone 327 00:09:29,410 --> 00:09:30,380 needs to get him... 328 00:09:30,380 --> 00:09:31,380 That man back into the house, 329 00:09:31,380 --> 00:09:31,960 says Aisling. 330 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,130 I don't think there was anyone 331 00:09:33,130 --> 00:09:34,160 in the fucking house. 332 00:09:35,500 --> 00:09:36,240 By the sound of things, he's 333 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,900 just acting alone. 334 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:38,840 Like his brother. 335 00:09:39,300 --> 00:09:40,840 Thank you very much, Roger Cook. 336 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,820 Very Merry Christmas to you. 337 00:09:44,540 --> 00:09:45,680 And thank you very much there 338 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:47,120 for the tip as well. 339 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,220 And none other than Jamesy. 340 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,380 Big shout out to Jamesy. 341 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:01,820 Thank you very much there. 342 00:10:03,300 --> 00:10:04,430 But don't interrupt a man when 343 00:10:04,430 --> 00:10:06,610 he's in the middle of his 344 00:10:06,610 --> 00:10:09,220 fucking flow like this guy. 345 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:10,880 Do you know? 346 00:10:11,260 --> 00:10:12,000 I'm not talking about ye. 347 00:10:12,100 --> 00:10:13,120 Sorry, the tips are lovely and 348 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,100 everything like that. 349 00:10:14,100 --> 00:10:15,400 But I mean, I'd say his head 350 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:16,870 would be wrecked if people were 351 00:10:16,870 --> 00:10:18,060 tipping him for him. 352 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:19,570 I'd love to send him a tip and 353 00:10:19,570 --> 00:10:21,200 see what he said about it. 354 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,080 He should do some streams. 355 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:23,520 Bear. 356 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,060 And I knew to hang out with... 357 00:10:25,060 --> 00:10:26,330 And I have no criminal record 358 00:10:26,330 --> 00:10:27,690 or any of that stuff because I'm 359 00:10:27,690 --> 00:10:29,280 smarter than the average bear. 360 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:30,330 And I knew to hang out with 361 00:10:30,330 --> 00:10:31,520 people who were dumber than I 362 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:32,670 was and who would get caught 363 00:10:32,670 --> 00:10:33,140 faster. 364 00:10:33,660 --> 00:10:33,920 Okay? 365 00:10:34,260 --> 00:10:34,820 Bottom line. 366 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:35,680 That's how it works. 367 00:10:36,540 --> 00:10:37,560 Have you asked yourself why... 368 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:40,060 And that's the face there. 369 00:10:40,060 --> 00:10:41,180 That's the look. 370 00:10:42,340 --> 00:10:44,060 Of incredulity. 371 00:10:44,060 --> 00:10:45,200 Or whatever you call that. 372 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:48,580 He's on... 373 00:10:48,580 --> 00:10:50,000 He's fielding questions. 374 00:10:50,100 --> 00:10:50,790 He doesn't know where they're 375 00:10:50,790 --> 00:10:51,260 coming from. 376 00:10:51,300 --> 00:10:52,080 He's never had... 377 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,940 This is a man who's probably 378 00:10:53,940 --> 00:10:56,040 never had this gaggle. 379 00:10:56,220 --> 00:10:57,240 Many people are around... 380 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:58,000 Well, who does? 381 00:10:58,420 --> 00:11:00,520 Who's ever had that many people 382 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,940 around them firing questions 383 00:11:02,940 --> 00:11:05,000 after one of your closest 384 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,460 relatives has massacred a lot 385 00:11:07,460 --> 00:11:08,580 of people? 386 00:11:09,820 --> 00:11:11,320 I mean, there's nobody there 387 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,760 that has told him... 388 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,330 Has given him any advice in the 389 00:11:14,330 --> 00:11:15,520 family, it seems. 390 00:11:15,660 --> 00:11:17,180 I think he's acting alone. 391 00:11:17,300 --> 00:11:18,630 I mean, you know, he loved, you 392 00:11:18,630 --> 00:11:19,930 know, Vegas and the gaming life 393 00:11:19,930 --> 00:11:20,560 and... 394 00:11:20,560 --> 00:11:22,240 And I'd love to do a live watch 395 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,240 along, Omar, of Money Machine, 396 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,160 but it would get taken down. 397 00:11:26,680 --> 00:11:27,180 I think. 398 00:11:27,180 --> 00:11:28,680 He was a casino to... 399 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:29,750 I mean, nothing you know, but 400 00:11:29,750 --> 00:11:30,770 if you asked yourself why he 401 00:11:30,770 --> 00:11:31,620 would take it... 402 00:11:31,620 --> 00:11:31,940 Absolutely. 403 00:11:31,940 --> 00:11:32,680 He loved so much. 404 00:11:32,680 --> 00:11:32,900 Well, of course. 405 00:11:33,180 --> 00:11:33,520 Absolutely. 406 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:34,540 It's not that he... 407 00:11:34,540 --> 00:11:35,580 Steve didn't love it. 408 00:11:35,620 --> 00:11:36,380 It was a job. 409 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,160 I did a job for 30 years that I 410 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,820 wasn't all that crazy about, 411 00:11:39,820 --> 00:11:41,400 but I made a lot of money. 412 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:42,640 Lovely stuff. 413 00:11:42,820 --> 00:11:43,920 I didn't love my job. 414 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,240 I pretty much hated my job. 415 00:11:45,340 --> 00:11:46,400 But I made a lot of money. 416 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,630 You know, in the wake of the 417 00:11:49,630 --> 00:11:51,780 biggest... 418 00:11:51,780 --> 00:11:52,640 I keep saying it. 419 00:11:52,700 --> 00:11:54,300 I'm just repeating myself the 420 00:11:54,300 --> 00:11:55,960 whole time where it just never 421 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,640 ceases to astound or amaze me 422 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,140 in the wake of such a tragedy 423 00:12:00,140 --> 00:12:01,680 to be saying this. 424 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:03,330 I did a job for 30 years that I 425 00:12:03,330 --> 00:12:04,900 wasn't all that crazy about, 426 00:12:04,900 --> 00:12:06,340 but I made a lot of money. 427 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,620 I made a lot of money. 428 00:12:10,220 --> 00:12:10,660 Okay. 429 00:12:11,580 --> 00:12:13,000 I didn't love my job. 430 00:12:13,100 --> 00:12:13,960 I pretty much was all that 431 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,050 crazy about, but I made a lot 432 00:12:15,050 --> 00:12:15,600 of money. 433 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:16,640 Okay. 434 00:12:17,020 --> 00:12:18,120 I didn't love my job. 435 00:12:18,180 --> 00:12:19,540 I pretty much hated my job, but 436 00:12:19,540 --> 00:12:20,620 I made a lot of money. 437 00:12:20,740 --> 00:12:22,040 I created four children 438 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,120 successfully. 439 00:12:23,300 --> 00:12:24,380 I have a house. 440 00:12:24,500 --> 00:12:25,320 I have a retirement. 441 00:12:25,540 --> 00:12:25,820 I get to go... 442 00:12:25,820 --> 00:12:26,920 Surely the kids would have gone, 443 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,710 Dad, seen the interview you did 444 00:12:28,710 --> 00:12:29,540 last night. 445 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:31,360 Is everything okay? 446 00:12:33,300 --> 00:12:33,890 I think maybe stay around at 447 00:12:33,890 --> 00:12:35,480 ours tonight. 448 00:12:36,680 --> 00:12:36,940 Yeah, stay around at ours 449 00:12:36,940 --> 00:12:38,380 because they're going to be 450 00:12:38,380 --> 00:12:39,670 outside the house until 451 00:12:39,670 --> 00:12:40,280 tomorrow. 452 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:42,800 Or for the next few days. 453 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:43,540 So come around. 454 00:12:44,220 --> 00:12:45,140 Chillax the cacks. 455 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,440 And, you know, don't be going 456 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:48,980 out there again, you know? 457 00:12:48,980 --> 00:12:50,270 I drive around in my cheap 458 00:12:50,270 --> 00:12:51,600 little motor home now. 459 00:12:52,260 --> 00:12:52,980 It's not... 460 00:12:53,620 --> 00:12:54,800 Steve didn't love the casino. 461 00:12:54,900 --> 00:12:56,320 The casino was a means to an 462 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:56,760 end. 463 00:12:57,680 --> 00:12:59,360 The casino to him was like a 464 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:00,080 job. 465 00:13:00,420 --> 00:13:01,060 It was like... 466 00:13:01,060 --> 00:13:02,480 He hated the marriage, but he 467 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:03,760 made a lot of children. 468 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,780 A job at Toyota in Japan where 469 00:13:05,780 --> 00:13:07,270 you live in the Toyota 470 00:13:07,270 --> 00:13:09,700 apartments across the street. 471 00:13:10,100 --> 00:13:11,450 And then you go to the Toyota 472 00:13:11,450 --> 00:13:12,720 factory to work. 473 00:13:12,940 --> 00:13:13,900 That's what the casino... 474 00:13:13,900 --> 00:13:14,840 That's all the casino was to 475 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:15,140 him. 476 00:13:15,180 --> 00:13:16,210 It was a place where you lived 477 00:13:16,210 --> 00:13:17,180 and they were nice to you. 478 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:18,220 And you made... 479 00:13:18,220 --> 00:13:19,830 And you could get it paid for 480 00:13:19,830 --> 00:13:21,040 by playing slots. 481 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:22,480 What would you say to families 482 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:23,500 who are trying to... 483 00:13:23,500 --> 00:13:24,850 You're saying the kids might 484 00:13:24,850 --> 00:13:26,130 have actually told him to go 485 00:13:26,130 --> 00:13:27,360 back out and try and turn it 486 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:27,800 around 487 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,330 after the previous night's 488 00:13:29,330 --> 00:13:31,020 interview didn't go so well. 489 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,500 What I'm saying... 490 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:35,620 I'm crying. 491 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:36,910 You know, you say, how am I 492 00:13:36,910 --> 00:13:37,700 holding up? 493 00:13:37,780 --> 00:13:39,010 I woke up, you know, and once 494 00:13:39,010 --> 00:13:39,960 again, it's... 495 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,300 I'm not a crying kind of guy. 496 00:13:41,420 --> 00:13:42,200 I'm the guy... 497 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,100 I'm the guy who helps everybody 498 00:13:44,100 --> 00:13:45,550 else go around and ask my 499 00:13:45,550 --> 00:13:46,420 neighbor. 500 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:47,520 The lady who pulled in, I 501 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:48,840 helped her husband pull a tree 502 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,680 off his house and stand up his... 503 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:52,020 I'm the kind of guy who goes 504 00:13:52,020 --> 00:13:53,140 around and helps. 505 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:54,480 Imagine he was your neighbor. 506 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:55,780 It'd be fucking great, Crack. 507 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:57,660 I'm just that... 508 00:13:57,660 --> 00:13:59,060 I mean, sorry, I'm just that 509 00:13:59,060 --> 00:13:59,800 kind of guy. 510 00:13:59,980 --> 00:14:00,400 Was I... 511 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,380 I'm extremely lucky in life. 512 00:14:03,260 --> 00:14:05,300 Extremely quirky, lucky kind of 513 00:14:05,300 --> 00:14:05,800 guy. 514 00:14:06,380 --> 00:14:08,240 But I worked for it a lot. 515 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,020 I mean, go find my history. 516 00:14:10,220 --> 00:14:12,220 I worked a billion hours and... 517 00:14:12,220 --> 00:14:13,220 Fair fucking place with him. 518 00:14:13,580 --> 00:14:14,580 And was not home with my family 519 00:14:14,580 --> 00:14:16,220 yet, and et cetera, et cetera. 520 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:18,200 But I'm not guilty for being 521 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:19,380 successful. 522 00:14:20,180 --> 00:14:20,850 But for all the rest of the 523 00:14:20,850 --> 00:14:21,960 people... 524 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,280 What was the no, I'm not? 525 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:24,420 I missed that then. 526 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:25,440 Did he say, am I perfect? 527 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:26,380 No, I'm not. 528 00:14:26,380 --> 00:14:28,340 Or did he say, I'm not a killer? 529 00:14:29,340 --> 00:14:31,140 Go around and ask my neighbor. 530 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:32,190 The lady who pulled in, I 531 00:14:32,190 --> 00:14:33,020 helped her husband. 532 00:14:33,020 --> 00:14:34,170 And pull a tree off his house 533 00:14:34,170 --> 00:14:35,300 and stand up his... 534 00:14:35,300 --> 00:14:36,710 I'm the kind of guy who goes 535 00:14:36,710 --> 00:14:37,860 around and helps. 536 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:39,060 I'm just that... 537 00:14:39,060 --> 00:14:40,430 I mean, sorry, I'm just that 538 00:14:40,430 --> 00:14:41,160 kind of guy. 539 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,780 I'm extremely lucky in life. 540 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:44,800 You know? 541 00:14:45,420 --> 00:14:47,300 But I worked for it a lot. 542 00:14:47,460 --> 00:14:49,060 I mean, go find my history. 543 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:49,960 I worked a bit... 544 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:50,740 Find my history. 545 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,150 Howie, thank you very much 546 00:14:52,150 --> 00:14:52,700 there. 547 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:54,740 The tip. 548 00:14:54,740 --> 00:14:56,030 I worked for hours and was not 549 00:14:56,030 --> 00:14:57,450 home with my family yet, and et 550 00:14:57,450 --> 00:14:58,560 cetera, et cetera. 551 00:14:58,900 --> 00:15:00,530 But I'm not guilty for being 552 00:15:00,530 --> 00:15:01,700 successful. 553 00:15:02,500 --> 00:15:03,100 But for all the rest of the 554 00:15:03,100 --> 00:15:04,940 people, for all the... 555 00:15:04,940 --> 00:15:06,120 Here, I mean, once again, 556 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:06,480 please. 557 00:15:06,700 --> 00:15:07,260 I'm just wanting to know what 558 00:15:07,260 --> 00:15:08,110 you say to the families, of the 559 00:15:08,110 --> 00:15:09,160 victims who are trying... 560 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:09,520 The families... 561 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:09,940 Okay. 562 00:15:10,300 --> 00:15:11,720 Here to talk with us today 563 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,740 about the handheld device is 564 00:15:13,740 --> 00:15:14,960 Eric Paddock. 565 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,280 Eric, how are you? 566 00:15:16,940 --> 00:15:17,520 I'm okay. 567 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,480 I'm a Windows kind of guy. 568 00:15:20,740 --> 00:15:21,480 All right. 569 00:15:21,980 --> 00:15:22,580 What else? 570 00:15:25,660 --> 00:15:27,460 Think about Steve. 571 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:28,420 Okay. 572 00:15:28,420 --> 00:15:29,370 Whatever you have to think 573 00:15:29,370 --> 00:15:29,980 about Steve. 574 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:31,520 Here's my statement. 575 00:15:31,860 --> 00:15:32,990 If we have to have a funeral 576 00:15:32,990 --> 00:15:35,460 for Steve, here's how pragmatic... 577 00:15:35,460 --> 00:15:37,220 This is how pragmatic I am. 578 00:15:37,780 --> 00:15:39,520 If having a funeral for Steve... 579 00:15:40,380 --> 00:15:41,710 And letting all these people 580 00:15:41,710 --> 00:15:44,520 come and spit on his grave... 581 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:45,870 Will make them feel better in 582 00:15:45,870 --> 00:15:47,260 any way, shape, or form. 583 00:15:47,420 --> 00:15:47,880 Heavy blow. 584 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,560 I'm using the far end here. 585 00:15:49,700 --> 00:15:50,180 Come on, guys. 586 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,440 Give me a little stretch here. 587 00:15:53,060 --> 00:15:55,150 If having a funeral for Steve 588 00:15:55,150 --> 00:15:57,960 would help anybody, I will do 589 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,440 whatever is possible. 590 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,140 I mean, I'm... 591 00:16:03,140 --> 00:16:04,660 Give me a little stretch here. 592 00:16:04,860 --> 00:16:05,760 I mean, come on, guys. 593 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,040 Give me a little stretch here. 594 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:08,720 It's like he's under... 595 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:09,810 I mean, he is under duress, 596 00:16:09,810 --> 00:16:11,000 obviously, and all that. 597 00:16:11,060 --> 00:16:12,460 But, I mean, he doesn't have to... 598 00:16:12,460 --> 00:16:13,780 He's laboring the duress. 599 00:16:13,900 --> 00:16:15,020 He could just be saying it. 600 00:16:15,100 --> 00:16:16,440 And maybe the solemn... 601 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:17,860 I wonder what he thought like, 602 00:16:17,860 --> 00:16:18,440 you know? 603 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:19,590 Because my thought process 604 00:16:19,590 --> 00:16:20,440 would be... 605 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,440 Just don't fucking... 606 00:16:23,820 --> 00:16:24,440 Just say... 607 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,440 Just try and intimate how... 608 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,160 shocking and crushing this is. 609 00:16:32,220 --> 00:16:33,160 Get it done in... 610 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,440 In 15 seconds, 20 seconds, 30 611 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:36,480 seconds the most. 612 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,090 My family would like to have 613 00:16:38,090 --> 00:16:39,920 private time to grieve now. 614 00:16:40,660 --> 00:16:41,220 And... 615 00:16:41,220 --> 00:16:43,060 Look, thank you. 616 00:16:43,180 --> 00:16:43,760 I'm sorry. 617 00:16:44,540 --> 00:16:45,320 I have to go inside and all 618 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:46,560 this, you know? 619 00:16:48,020 --> 00:16:48,960 Leave me alone. 620 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:50,840 Leave me alone. 621 00:16:51,020 --> 00:16:52,180 Basically would be the... 622 00:16:52,180 --> 00:16:53,750 The overarching message I'd be 623 00:16:53,750 --> 00:16:54,820 trying to... 624 00:16:54,820 --> 00:16:55,480 Get across. 625 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,370 I don't think I could do 626 00:16:57,370 --> 00:16:58,740 fucking 30 minutes. 627 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:00,740 Do you know? 628 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,880 It's like a stand-up show. 629 00:17:04,660 --> 00:17:07,350 My heart is torn, is destroyed 630 00:17:07,350 --> 00:17:09,320 for all these people. 631 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:10,460 I... 632 00:17:10,460 --> 00:17:13,100 But I can't tell you why Steve 633 00:17:13,100 --> 00:17:14,800 did what he did. 634 00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:16,040 It doesn't... 635 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,660 It's so far... 636 00:17:18,660 --> 00:17:20,660 Over the side of the cliff... 637 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,200 From Steve that I knew. 638 00:17:24,460 --> 00:17:26,040 Did he grouse about people? 639 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:26,740 Yes. 640 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:27,960 If you went into... 641 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:28,460 I mean... 642 00:17:28,460 --> 00:17:41,840 You guys... 643 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:42,440 Come on. 644 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:43,140 If you... 645 00:17:43,140 --> 00:17:44,060 You go in... 646 00:17:44,060 --> 00:17:44,440 Do any... 647 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:45,720 You guys ever gamble at all? 648 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:47,260 When you gamble and you win, 649 00:17:47,260 --> 00:17:48,420 you're all happy. 650 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:49,480 It doesn't matter if you're up 651 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:50,100 $500. 652 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,180 When you lose, you're not happy. 653 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:53,890 So, you know, you're unhappy 654 00:17:53,890 --> 00:17:55,110 that you lost because you think 655 00:17:55,110 --> 00:17:55,420 you lost. 656 00:17:55,740 --> 00:17:56,320 But there's no... 657 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,280 Thank you very much there, Mr. 658 00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:58,980 Murphy. 659 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:00,800 Secretly watching at work. 660 00:18:01,460 --> 00:18:04,260 Trying not to laugh out loud. 661 00:18:05,020 --> 00:18:06,390 Can you please say hello to 662 00:18:06,390 --> 00:18:09,320 Richie, who's stranded in Carlow? 663 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:10,140 Look, lads. 664 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:11,520 I didn't even know there was a 665 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:12,980 fucking storm until... 666 00:18:12,980 --> 00:18:14,630 Or meant to be a warning from 667 00:18:14,630 --> 00:18:16,410 the counties of the east of the 668 00:18:16,410 --> 00:18:17,220 country. 669 00:18:17,260 --> 00:18:18,060 I'm not sure about Mayo. 670 00:18:18,060 --> 00:18:19,370 I didn't know there was meant 671 00:18:19,370 --> 00:18:21,060 to be a fucking storm until... 672 00:18:21,060 --> 00:18:24,260 Until probably like 9 or 10 a.m. 673 00:18:24,780 --> 00:18:25,340 Maybe not. 674 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:26,240 Yeah, less than that. 675 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,090 And then I got word from Connor, 676 00:18:29,090 --> 00:18:30,840 who is in Dublin. 677 00:18:31,580 --> 00:18:32,970 Said it's a fucking nightmare 678 00:18:32,970 --> 00:18:33,600 zone. 679 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,180 And there was traffic problems. 680 00:18:37,500 --> 00:18:38,540 Something on the N5. 681 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:39,920 I don't know why he was on the 682 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,020 N5, but he was. 683 00:18:41,780 --> 00:18:42,080 Okay. 684 00:18:42,740 --> 00:18:43,260 That's... 685 00:18:43,260 --> 00:18:44,280 That's Steve. 686 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,340 But I hope everyone's okay. 687 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:46,960 It's... 688 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,240 And I hope the power doesn't go... 689 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,180 A la last year. 690 00:18:50,260 --> 00:18:51,230 Because that will happen during 691 00:18:51,230 --> 00:18:51,740 the stream. 692 00:18:51,740 --> 00:18:52,890 So if the stream does just go 693 00:18:52,890 --> 00:18:54,090 down like that, you'll know 694 00:18:54,090 --> 00:18:55,180 that the power is gone. 695 00:18:56,180 --> 00:18:57,270 I'm not sure we're going to get 696 00:18:57,270 --> 00:18:59,180 it the worst in the west. 697 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,610 I mean, Steve didn't gamble 698 00:19:01,610 --> 00:19:02,420 that way. 699 00:19:02,500 --> 00:19:03,900 Steve gambled as a job. 700 00:19:04,100 --> 00:19:04,820 A job? 701 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:06,990 What's the status of the FBI in 702 00:19:06,990 --> 00:19:07,940 your family? 703 00:19:07,940 --> 00:19:08,840 They haven't talked to me yet. 704 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,200 I remember someone the last day 705 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,680 said that's just someone... 706 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:12,760 That's one of his neighbors 707 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:13,620 coming to ask him some 708 00:19:13,620 --> 00:19:14,280 questions. 709 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,180 It's not a journalist anymore. 710 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:16,800 That's just one of his 711 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:17,260 neighbors. 712 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,860 Eric, what's the status of the 713 00:19:19,860 --> 00:19:20,480 FBI? 714 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:21,720 Eric, Eric. 715 00:19:22,420 --> 00:19:23,380 What's going on? 716 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,520 Is everything okay? 717 00:19:25,620 --> 00:19:26,520 Do you want to come over? 718 00:19:27,260 --> 00:19:27,900 Yeah, come over. 719 00:19:28,020 --> 00:19:29,350 We sit down, have something to 720 00:19:29,350 --> 00:19:29,720 eat. 721 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:30,360 Do you want a sandwich? 722 00:19:31,780 --> 00:19:32,900 We're worried about you. 723 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:34,860 Steve gambled as a job. 724 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,000 Eric, what... 725 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,860 What's the status of the FBI in 726 00:19:37,860 --> 00:19:38,900 your family? 727 00:19:38,900 --> 00:19:39,720 They haven't talked to me at 728 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:39,980 all. 729 00:19:40,060 --> 00:19:41,080 I know nothing from them. 730 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:41,480 They aren't... 731 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,160 I have to find out stuff about 732 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,420 that from... 733 00:19:44,420 --> 00:19:45,080 I thought you were working with 734 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:45,460 federal... 735 00:19:45,460 --> 00:19:46,720 I was yesterday. 736 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,460 Poor guy, like, hounded. 737 00:19:48,460 --> 00:19:50,300 I found out about this $100,000 738 00:19:50,300 --> 00:19:51,040 on the... 739 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,200 Somebody texted me. 740 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:53,400 If it's true, I'm sorry. 741 00:19:53,580 --> 00:19:54,530 What's the protocol in a 742 00:19:54,530 --> 00:19:55,720 situation like this? 743 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,400 Like, is there a family... 744 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:58,860 Would the police even be arsed 745 00:19:58,860 --> 00:20:00,200 to fucking dishing out a family 746 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:00,720 counselor 747 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,320 to the immediate relatives? 748 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,960 Or is it a case of the feds, 749 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,280 as they probably were, like, 750 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:08,540 you know, 751 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:09,970 just clueless as to what the 752 00:20:09,970 --> 00:20:11,020 fuck's going on? 753 00:20:11,540 --> 00:20:12,340 They were probably just like, 754 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:13,800 don't do anything. 755 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,010 Just let's keep an eye on this 756 00:20:16,010 --> 00:20:16,640 guy. 757 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:18,700 You know. 758 00:20:19,500 --> 00:20:20,540 It's probably the feds are 759 00:20:20,540 --> 00:20:20,940 organized. 760 00:20:20,940 --> 00:20:23,100 The press gaggle. 761 00:20:24,980 --> 00:20:25,120 I mean, I found out about this 762 00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:27,620 $100,000 on the... 763 00:20:27,620 --> 00:20:28,760 Somebody texted me. 764 00:20:28,900 --> 00:20:30,090 If it's true, I'm sorry if it's 765 00:20:30,090 --> 00:20:30,720 not true. 766 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,240 But once again, it... 767 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:33,880 I mean, here I can talk to that 768 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,590 because it fits exactly into 769 00:20:35,590 --> 00:20:37,620 what I would expect from Steve. 770 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,140 That he took care of Mary Lou. 771 00:20:40,820 --> 00:20:42,920 And Gullman's brother speaks. 772 00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:44,650 I'd let people spit on his 773 00:20:44,650 --> 00:20:46,060 grave if it would help. 774 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,960 The most insane strands. 775 00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:49,640 Look, I'm sorry. 776 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:50,450 I know we've been through it 777 00:20:50,450 --> 00:20:50,780 again. 778 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:51,790 And it's like, you're just 779 00:20:51,790 --> 00:20:52,660 repeating the hits. 780 00:20:54,180 --> 00:20:56,070 But it's the most insane bit of 781 00:20:56,070 --> 00:20:57,840 television that ever happened. 782 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:58,980 And I don't think it's... 783 00:20:58,980 --> 00:21:00,180 I don't think it's been topped. 784 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:01,440 Do you know? 785 00:21:05,260 --> 00:21:08,140 I mean, the fact that he took 786 00:21:08,140 --> 00:21:10,330 care of Mary Lou and then 787 00:21:10,330 --> 00:21:13,220 killed all these people, there's 788 00:21:13,220 --> 00:21:17,660 just no connection there for me. 789 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,580 I don't understand how Steve 790 00:21:20,580 --> 00:21:22,500 got to that point. 791 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,370 That's why, I mean, once again, 792 00:21:24,370 --> 00:21:26,060 and maybe we'll never know. 793 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:26,920 I don't know. 794 00:21:27,340 --> 00:21:29,780 But we, I mean, I'm praying. 795 00:21:30,900 --> 00:21:32,200 I mean, and even, there's no, 796 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,280 so he lost $4 million. 797 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,520 So Mary Lou grew up with him. 798 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:37,860 There you have it. 799 00:21:37,940 --> 00:21:40,140 $4 million got lost. 800 00:21:40,900 --> 00:21:42,340 That would have probably 801 00:21:42,340 --> 00:21:45,200 sparked off a fucking chain 802 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,560 reaction of pure mental anguish 803 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,300 within your man. 804 00:21:50,140 --> 00:21:50,840 And then he just went and did 805 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:51,700 what he did. 806 00:21:52,900 --> 00:21:54,380 Thank you very much, DJ Colocube. 807 00:21:54,460 --> 00:21:56,320 Any Warzone runs on the horizon? 808 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,480 I don't. 809 00:21:57,620 --> 00:21:59,810 I uninstalled it there a few 810 00:21:59,810 --> 00:22:01,170 months ago just to make some 811 00:22:01,170 --> 00:22:02,960 space for other games. 812 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:03,900 So I'd have to fucking. 813 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:04,940 And you know the way that's. 814 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:06,650 How is it like a hundred and 815 00:22:06,650 --> 00:22:08,600 odd gigabytes for that game? 816 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:09,300 And it's. 817 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,100 It's just like a map. 818 00:22:11,900 --> 00:22:13,940 I don't understand that at all. 819 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,100 Probably should be just like 10 820 00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:17,860 gigabytes maybe at the most. 821 00:22:19,740 --> 00:22:21,220 But I don't think I will. 822 00:22:21,220 --> 00:22:22,480 Maybe, maybe, maybe for 823 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:23,200 Christmas. 824 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,770 Maybe around or in the new year 825 00:22:24,770 --> 00:22:25,700 or something. 826 00:22:25,860 --> 00:22:26,910 But I mean, is it, is it 827 00:22:26,910 --> 00:22:28,480 fucking worth it anymore? 828 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,800 You know, it's just like a slop. 829 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,330 It becomes like a slop gruel 830 00:22:34,330 --> 00:22:36,400 bucket where I'm just begging 831 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,340 for more slop and gruel. 832 00:22:39,060 --> 00:22:42,050 Like a kind of fucked up Oliver 833 00:22:42,050 --> 00:22:43,280 Twist. 834 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,280 A laid back gangster twist. 835 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,600 Go more gruel please, more slop. 836 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:50,480 That's where it becomes, you 837 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:51,540 know, it becomes a nightmare. 838 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,940 I mean, you might see the highs, 839 00:22:53,940 --> 00:22:55,600 the very high highs of when I 840 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,340 win the game eventually. 841 00:22:57,740 --> 00:22:59,120 But there's a lot of crushing 842 00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:00,600 blows and lows, you know. 843 00:23:02,700 --> 00:23:03,350 But it's the most beautiful 844 00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:05,040 fucking slop. 845 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,390 Oh, I love that slop so much 846 00:23:07,390 --> 00:23:08,780 when it works. 847 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,200 Have you tried RedSec? 848 00:23:10,340 --> 00:23:11,590 I don't want to go into the 849 00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:13,000 battlefield zone either. 850 00:23:13,460 --> 00:23:14,350 And from what I can see, I mean, 851 00:23:14,350 --> 00:23:15,400 you're probably going to 852 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:15,960 disagree. 853 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:17,240 All that destructible 854 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,920 environment stuff, it's too 855 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:19,800 much for me. 856 00:23:20,620 --> 00:23:21,810 There's just too much going on, 857 00:23:21,810 --> 00:23:22,600 you know. 858 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,490 I mean, there's enough problems 859 00:23:24,490 --> 00:23:25,980 trying to fucking kill the 860 00:23:25,980 --> 00:23:28,110 other lads that are on the map 861 00:23:28,110 --> 00:23:29,890 without the building fucking 862 00:23:29,890 --> 00:23:30,960 collapsing. 863 00:23:31,220 --> 00:23:32,340 And then all that fire. 864 00:23:32,620 --> 00:23:33,720 I don't like all that fire at 865 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:34,380 the side. 866 00:23:34,500 --> 00:23:35,580 It's fucking annoying. 867 00:23:35,780 --> 00:23:36,840 Just have some gas. 868 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,220 It looks rubbish. 869 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,100 The fire looked rubbish. 870 00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:40,480 Maybe it looks good on a 4K 871 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,740 setup if you've got a 4K 872 00:23:41,740 --> 00:23:43,280 monitor and you've got all the 873 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,460 whistles and bells. 874 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:45,940 But I didn't like it. 875 00:23:46,360 --> 00:23:47,280 That's not even. 876 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:48,300 And that's not even. 877 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,640 That wouldn't even do it for 878 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,120 Steve. 879 00:23:50,260 --> 00:23:50,780 That wouldn't even. 880 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:51,360 It wouldn't. 881 00:23:52,020 --> 00:23:53,220 RedSec wouldn't even do it for 882 00:23:53,220 --> 00:23:53,640 me. 883 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:54,720 Do you know? 884 00:23:54,940 --> 00:23:57,080 I don't like funerals. 885 00:23:57,900 --> 00:23:58,220 Okay? 886 00:23:58,420 --> 00:24:00,340 I like being alive. 887 00:24:00,940 --> 00:24:01,880 And Poddy Bob, thank you very 888 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:02,320 much. 889 00:24:02,540 --> 00:24:03,440 And DJ Colacube. 890 00:24:03,460 --> 00:24:04,180 Go on. 891 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:05,780 We've had setbacks. 892 00:24:05,780 --> 00:24:06,120 Listen. 893 00:24:06,820 --> 00:24:07,610 We're in the real estate 894 00:24:07,610 --> 00:24:08,740 business in LA. 895 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,220 Back when the bottom fell out 896 00:24:10,220 --> 00:24:10,680 of it. 897 00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:11,870 We almost lost all of our 898 00:24:11,870 --> 00:24:12,480 savings. 899 00:24:12,860 --> 00:24:14,140 We just went on. 900 00:24:15,340 --> 00:24:16,300 I mean, there's no. 901 00:24:16,460 --> 00:24:17,040 He's resilient. 902 00:24:17,260 --> 00:24:18,720 I'm not pragmatic people. 903 00:24:19,220 --> 00:24:19,560 We just. 904 00:24:19,980 --> 00:24:20,200 I mean. 905 00:24:20,420 --> 00:24:20,800 Computer games. 906 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,320 Computer games. 907 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,540 Handheld gaming devices. 908 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:24,500 Handheld gaming. 909 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,540 Dara Darmody Tip. 910 00:24:26,260 --> 00:24:27,600 Thank you very much there, Dara. 911 00:24:27,940 --> 00:24:29,200 Finish watching Shenmue 1. 912 00:24:29,460 --> 00:24:30,520 Any plans for Shenmue 2? 913 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,180 I'd rather play Shenmue 2 in 914 00:24:32,180 --> 00:24:33,660 its entirety again for the 915 00:24:33,660 --> 00:24:35,040 second time around. 916 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,410 Than play, you know, Warzone or 917 00:24:37,410 --> 00:24:38,200 RedSec. 918 00:24:38,300 --> 00:24:40,240 It's complete antithesis. 919 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,160 But I mean, it is what it is. 920 00:24:42,460 --> 00:24:44,960 And I seen there that Shenmue 3, 921 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,760 which I didn't like at the time. 922 00:24:47,900 --> 00:24:48,660 Even though I played it. 923 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:49,420 I don't think. 924 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,060 Maybe I play. 925 00:24:50,060 --> 00:24:51,310 I play these games in massive 926 00:24:51,310 --> 00:24:51,840 chunks. 927 00:24:52,060 --> 00:24:53,180 And then I just end up being 928 00:24:53,180 --> 00:24:54,520 sick of them by the end of it. 929 00:24:55,140 --> 00:24:56,760 That's getting an upgrade. 930 00:24:57,300 --> 00:24:58,390 So if you bought it on the PS4, 931 00:24:58,390 --> 00:25:00,160 which I did back in 2019 or 932 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,180 2020. 933 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:02,840 Then. 934 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:04,780 It'll upgrade for the PS5 935 00:25:04,780 --> 00:25:06,820 better graphics or some shit 936 00:25:06,820 --> 00:25:07,840 like that. 937 00:25:08,140 --> 00:25:08,840 So maybe even just playing 938 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:09,880 those again, you know. 939 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,360 We keep going. 940 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:12,020 We just. 941 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:12,940 We just keep going. 942 00:25:13,220 --> 00:25:14,180 Not keeping going. 943 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,000 There was something that 944 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,600 happened to Steve. 945 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,040 That. 946 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:20,280 Yeah. 947 00:25:20,340 --> 00:25:22,010 I'm not even trying to excuse 948 00:25:22,010 --> 00:25:23,380 anything or anything. 949 00:25:23,380 --> 00:25:24,020 Uh-huh. 950 00:25:24,260 --> 00:25:25,570 But something happened that 951 00:25:25,570 --> 00:25:27,360 drove him into the pit of hell. 952 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:28,180 There you have it. 953 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:29,020 And. 954 00:25:29,540 --> 00:25:30,040 And. 955 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:31,900 He did this. 956 00:25:32,180 --> 00:25:32,380 Yeah. 957 00:25:32,540 --> 00:25:33,660 You're hoping that there's some 958 00:25:33,660 --> 00:25:34,910 autopsy will reveal something 959 00:25:34,910 --> 00:25:35,620 to explain. 960 00:25:35,740 --> 00:25:37,300 I'm praying for at least some 961 00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:38,240 data points. 962 00:25:38,420 --> 00:25:39,540 Because otherwise. 963 00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:40,500 It's. 964 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:41,240 It's. 965 00:25:41,380 --> 00:25:41,700 You know. 966 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:41,980 The. 967 00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:43,910 The bug in Men in Black put on 968 00:25:43,910 --> 00:25:45,840 a Steve suit and went and did 969 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:46,500 this. 970 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,420 That little bug guy. 971 00:25:49,540 --> 00:25:49,920 That. 972 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:50,160 That. 973 00:25:50,220 --> 00:25:51,060 The fella. 974 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:52,290 Was that the fella that was 975 00:25:52,290 --> 00:25:52,880 like the. 976 00:25:53,020 --> 00:25:53,280 The. 977 00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:53,980 The mechanic. 978 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,560 Did he turn into the bug? 979 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,260 Here comes the Men in Black. 980 00:26:04,220 --> 00:26:06,600 They won't let you remember. 981 00:26:08,140 --> 00:26:10,080 Crazy little bug. 982 00:26:10,980 --> 00:26:12,240 Crazy little bug. 983 00:26:12,820 --> 00:26:13,940 In Men in Black too. 984 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,060 At least some data points. 985 00:26:16,420 --> 00:26:17,220 Because otherwise. 986 00:26:17,940 --> 00:26:18,300 It's. 987 00:26:18,540 --> 00:26:19,020 It's. 988 00:26:19,260 --> 00:26:19,520 You know. 989 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:19,800 The. 990 00:26:20,260 --> 00:26:21,690 The bug in Men in Black put on 991 00:26:21,690 --> 00:26:23,920 a Steve suit and went and did. 992 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,620 I must have fucking missed this 993 00:26:26,620 --> 00:26:28,780 the first time around. 994 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:29,910 I can't remember talking about 995 00:26:29,910 --> 00:26:30,260 this. 996 00:26:31,260 --> 00:26:32,820 The bug in Men in Black put on 997 00:26:32,820 --> 00:26:34,280 a Steve suit. 998 00:26:37,260 --> 00:26:38,440 The alliteration of Steve suit 999 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,920 as well. 1000 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,730 Praying for at least some data 1001 00:26:41,730 --> 00:26:42,440 points. 1002 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:43,600 Because otherwise. 1003 00:26:44,260 --> 00:26:44,700 It's. 1004 00:26:44,940 --> 00:26:45,420 It's. 1005 00:26:45,420 --> 00:26:45,900 You know. 1006 00:26:46,020 --> 00:26:46,160 The. 1007 00:26:46,660 --> 00:26:48,370 The bug in Men in Black put on 1008 00:26:48,370 --> 00:26:49,680 a Steve suit. 1009 00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:50,340 Well. 1010 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,300 What did the fucking. 1011 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:52,890 The bug in Men in Black look 1012 00:26:52,890 --> 00:26:53,440 like. 1013 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,460 The bug in Men in Black. 1014 00:26:57,340 --> 00:26:57,800 Bug. 1015 00:26:58,180 --> 00:26:58,680 Men. 1016 00:26:58,960 --> 00:26:59,240 In. 1017 00:26:59,740 --> 00:27:00,100 Black. 1018 00:27:04,180 --> 00:27:05,020 Bug men. 1019 00:27:05,940 --> 00:27:06,180 Egg. 1020 00:27:06,340 --> 00:27:07,300 Edgar the bug. 1021 00:27:12,740 --> 00:27:13,920 I can't remember. 1022 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:14,980 I really can't remember. 1023 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:15,800 So it was him. 1024 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,840 It is him in his disguise look. 1025 00:27:17,940 --> 00:27:19,180 So the bug was that guy. 1026 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:21,420 Inside that fella. 1027 00:27:21,420 --> 00:27:27,300 Went and did this. 1028 00:27:27,940 --> 00:27:28,260 I mean. 1029 00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:29,400 There's no other. 1030 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,480 There's no other rationalization. 1031 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:34,920 I mean. 1032 00:27:35,780 --> 00:27:38,170 He didn't plan this for 35 1033 00:27:38,170 --> 00:27:39,240 years. 1034 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,580 How do you not know though? 1035 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,060 It just. 1036 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,610 It might have just been there 1037 00:27:42,610 --> 00:27:43,770 in the recesses of the 1038 00:27:43,770 --> 00:27:44,740 imagination. 1039 00:27:45,740 --> 00:27:46,140 Like. 1040 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,540 If it all goes fucking tits up. 1041 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,280 I'm just gonna go crazy with it. 1042 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,020 I plan this for 35 years. 1043 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,360 This happened to my brother. 1044 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,640 Whatever caused him to do this. 1045 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,280 Happened in a very. 1046 00:28:00,180 --> 00:28:00,740 Again. 1047 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,760 I don't know what a very short 1048 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:02,660 time period is to you. 1049 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:03,500 Maybe it's the dangers of 1050 00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:03,960 gambling. 1051 00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:05,860 And then ramped up into a 1052 00:28:05,860 --> 00:28:07,710 scenario whereby it's not only 1053 00:28:07,710 --> 00:28:09,620 the dangers of gambling and 1054 00:28:09,620 --> 00:28:10,830 what it can fucking do to your 1055 00:28:10,830 --> 00:28:11,220 mind. 1056 00:28:11,220 --> 00:28:14,110 But if you're a high stakes, 1057 00:28:14,110 --> 00:28:16,760 big time gambler in a place 1058 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,380 where guns are freely available, 1059 00:28:20,380 --> 00:28:22,370 then I suppose actually just 1060 00:28:22,370 --> 00:28:24,420 being in a place where guns are 1061 00:28:24,420 --> 00:28:26,000 freely available. 1062 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,390 That's the crucial factor in 1063 00:28:28,390 --> 00:28:29,380 all of it. 1064 00:28:30,860 --> 00:28:32,840 You know, it needn't 1065 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,910 necessarily be a fucked up 1066 00:28:35,910 --> 00:28:38,020 gambling mind that is just 1067 00:28:38,020 --> 00:28:40,330 being crippled by losses and 1068 00:28:40,330 --> 00:28:41,540 whatnot. 1069 00:28:41,740 --> 00:28:42,920 It could happen anywhere to 1070 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:43,480 anyone. 1071 00:28:43,580 --> 00:28:45,590 This happened over the course 1072 00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:46,620 of months. 1073 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:48,660 It happened over the course of 1074 00:28:48,660 --> 00:28:49,440 months. 1075 00:28:49,980 --> 00:28:51,030 And here's what I say to the 1076 00:28:51,030 --> 00:28:51,740 people. 1077 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,090 I mean, if they're trying to 1078 00:28:53,090 --> 00:28:54,650 understand Steve, maybe no one 1079 00:28:54,650 --> 00:28:56,240 will ever understand Steve. 1080 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:56,980 No. 1081 00:28:56,980 --> 00:28:58,850 But, you know, this is what I'll 1082 00:28:58,850 --> 00:29:00,640 carry for the rest of my life. 1083 00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:02,180 You know, had I called him back 1084 00:29:02,180 --> 00:29:03,580 instead of texting, would I 1085 00:29:03,580 --> 00:29:04,940 have heard something in his 1086 00:29:04,940 --> 00:29:05,500 voice? 1087 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:06,980 Would I have... 1088 00:29:06,980 --> 00:29:07,540 That's sad. 1089 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,440 Would he have given up 1090 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:10,740 something? 1091 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:12,160 Would he have... 1092 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:12,700 I don't know. 1093 00:29:12,860 --> 00:29:13,460 I can't say. 1094 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:14,260 That's sad. 1095 00:29:14,260 --> 00:29:15,910 That's what I'm going to carry 1096 00:29:15,910 --> 00:29:17,370 for the rest of my life that 1097 00:29:17,370 --> 00:29:19,360 maybe I could have intervened. 1098 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,100 But I don't... 1099 00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:23,160 That's pure conjecture. 1100 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,420 For the people... 1101 00:29:25,420 --> 00:29:27,480 Who have been affected by this... 1102 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,150 Computer Chronicles in a moment 1103 00:29:29,150 --> 00:29:29,680 there. 1104 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,320 I just want to get some more 1105 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:31,940 juice. 1106 00:29:31,940 --> 00:29:33,940 Anything I could do... 1107 00:29:33,940 --> 00:29:35,140 To make this better. 1108 00:29:36,460 --> 00:29:37,010 If there was anything I could 1109 00:29:37,010 --> 00:29:39,020 do to make this better, I would 1110 00:29:39,020 --> 00:29:39,680 do it. 1111 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,480 And I... 1112 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,480 I'm... 1113 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,980 I mean, nobody wants to hear 1114 00:29:44,980 --> 00:29:47,360 this, but I'm as touched by 1115 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,160 this. 1116 00:29:48,260 --> 00:29:49,280 My brother's dead. 1117 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:50,160 Who... 1118 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,630 Who wasn't this guy who did 1119 00:29:51,630 --> 00:29:52,180 this? 1120 00:29:53,020 --> 00:29:54,080 You know, he's dead. 1121 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,720 And I liked my brother. 1122 00:29:57,780 --> 00:29:59,200 He was a good guy. 1123 00:29:59,420 --> 00:30:00,540 I know this is... 1124 00:30:00,540 --> 00:30:01,770 You know, nobody wants to hear 1125 00:30:01,770 --> 00:30:02,580 this, but damn. 1126 00:30:03,580 --> 00:30:05,580 You know, if you knew Steve... 1127 00:30:07,060 --> 00:30:07,970 Once again, people 20 years ago 1128 00:30:07,970 --> 00:30:09,500 who have no reason to say 1129 00:30:09,500 --> 00:30:11,200 anything nice about him or 1130 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,620 anything... 1131 00:30:12,620 --> 00:30:13,900 Or say nice things about him. 1132 00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:14,200 The bug. 1133 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,060 The bug in men in black. 1134 00:30:15,180 --> 00:30:16,720 Who don't even know him hardly. 1135 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,060 Put on a Steve suit. 1136 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:20,720 I'm... 1137 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,560 This is... 1138 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,140 A horror. 1139 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,100 Just a... 1140 00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:25,240 A horror story. 1141 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,580 Okay, we'll leave it because... 1142 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,140 I'm not going to say I'm not 1143 00:30:28,140 --> 00:30:29,660 going to come back to it. 1144 00:30:30,260 --> 00:30:31,500 I think I'd just like to have 1145 00:30:31,500 --> 00:30:32,820 this guy on tick. 1146 00:30:32,820 --> 00:30:36,600 You know, he's always there for 1147 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,340 me in my hour of need. 1148 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:40,920 And this fella too. 1149 00:30:42,300 --> 00:30:43,190 Edgar the bug, ladies and 1150 00:30:43,190 --> 00:30:44,480 gentlemen. 1151 00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:46,800 From Men in Black. 1152 00:30:47,380 --> 00:30:50,580 Honorary mention for Edgar the 1153 00:30:50,580 --> 00:30:51,460 bug. 1154 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,440 Another crazy little guy. 1155 00:30:56,220 --> 00:30:57,100 He wasn't little as I can 1156 00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:57,900 recall. 1157 00:30:57,980 --> 00:30:58,660 He was a big fella. 1158 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,100 All hail bug Steve. 1159 00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:04,180 Thank you very much there for 1160 00:31:04,180 --> 00:31:04,880 that. 1161 00:31:04,980 --> 00:31:05,560 Let's... 1162 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,510 Let's move these fellas over 1163 00:31:07,510 --> 00:31:08,120 here. 1164 00:31:09,620 --> 00:31:10,020 Ah, it's... 1165 00:31:10,020 --> 00:31:10,580 It's so... 1166 00:31:10,580 --> 00:31:11,920 You're saying it's a little bit 1167 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,380 depressing for sure, James. 1168 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:14,940 But I mean, you know, it is. 1169 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:15,580 It is. 1170 00:31:15,780 --> 00:31:16,180 It is. 1171 00:31:16,220 --> 00:31:17,460 But there's bits and pieces in 1172 00:31:17,460 --> 00:31:17,760 it. 1173 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:18,580 You know, it's... 1174 00:31:18,580 --> 00:31:18,840 It's... 1175 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:19,760 It's reality. 1176 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,840 We need to embrace reality. 1177 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,920 And come to terms with it. 1178 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:26,940 You know? 1179 00:31:27,380 --> 00:31:28,400 And then don't forget, he's in 1180 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,000 a fucking documentary where he's 1181 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:30,900 going... 1182 00:31:30,900 --> 00:31:31,860 He's giving both barrels. 1183 00:31:32,020 --> 00:31:33,530 Swearing and just giving it the 1184 00:31:33,530 --> 00:31:34,360 big bamboo. 1185 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,220 Thank you very much, Marcelino's 1186 00:31:37,220 --> 00:31:39,580 Bodega and Red Dead Steve. 1187 00:31:39,580 --> 00:31:41,630 I think as well, if we present 1188 00:31:41,630 --> 00:31:44,040 it under the auspices of... 1189 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,580 Let's have a look at how bad 1190 00:31:45,580 --> 00:31:46,500 the media is. 1191 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:47,040 You know? 1192 00:31:47,660 --> 00:31:49,640 Then that overrides any sort of 1193 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,740 guilt that you might feel 1194 00:31:51,740 --> 00:31:54,960 watching it for some sort of... 1195 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,480 I'm not going to say gruesome. 1196 00:31:56,540 --> 00:31:57,140 Entertainment. 1197 00:31:57,460 --> 00:32:00,040 That would be very glib and 1198 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,440 gruesome. 1199 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,460 But I mean, it's... 1200 00:32:03,460 --> 00:32:03,640 Look. 1201 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:04,680 It is what it is. 1202 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:05,940 And it's only... 1203 00:32:05,940 --> 00:32:07,160 Something will happen like that 1204 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:07,540 again. 1205 00:32:07,620 --> 00:32:08,320 And we'll probably see 1206 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:08,820 something. 1207 00:32:09,020 --> 00:32:10,480 And we're like, well, fuck. 1208 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,520 We told you. 1209 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:12,560 Did you not see the interview 1210 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:13,600 with your man's brother that 1211 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:13,980 time? 1212 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:15,790 Something worse will happen, 1213 00:32:15,790 --> 00:32:16,520 you know? 1214 00:32:18,260 --> 00:32:18,910 Captain Sack, thank you very 1215 00:32:18,910 --> 00:32:19,620 much. 1216 00:32:20,020 --> 00:32:21,320 But if it does happen again, 1217 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,140 they probably won't. 1218 00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:23,960 Because the feds will just know 1219 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:24,920 what... 1220 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:25,140 Who to... 1221 00:32:25,700 --> 00:32:26,420 Who's done it. 1222 00:32:27,060 --> 00:32:28,410 So they won't let them go on 1223 00:32:28,410 --> 00:32:29,560 television. 1224 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,300 The same way they let Steve or 1225 00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:32,560 Eric go on television. 1226 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,560 But then your man who did the 1227 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,160 Charlie Kirk thing... 1228 00:32:37,180 --> 00:32:37,540 They... 1229 00:32:37,540 --> 00:32:38,750 They didn't fucking know who 1230 00:32:38,750 --> 00:32:39,300 did that. 1231 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:40,160 So... 1232 00:32:40,940 --> 00:32:42,180 They couldn't get him, you know? 1233 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,560 And in the end, he turned 1234 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,380 himself in. 1235 00:32:44,580 --> 00:32:45,200 After the... 1236 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,100 The FBI had said, oh, we're... 1237 00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:47,930 We're going to have this 1238 00:32:47,930 --> 00:32:48,960 fucking solved soon enough. 1239 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,400 And then it took them a few 1240 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:50,920 days. 1241 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:51,710 And your man just turned 1242 00:32:51,710 --> 00:32:52,200 himself in. 1243 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:55,680 So... 1244 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,160 A pattern of... 1245 00:32:57,900 --> 00:33:00,540 Crimes emerging out of the dark. 1246 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,380 Out of nowhere. 1247 00:33:01,380 --> 00:33:02,120 Do you know? 1248 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,620 Sleeper situations. 1249 00:33:07,580 --> 00:33:09,120 His dad turned him in. 1250 00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:10,440 Says Lex. 1251 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,480 Or X-Leox. 1252 00:33:12,740 --> 00:33:14,010 Thank you very much, Captain Sack 1253 00:33:14,010 --> 00:33:15,020 and Red Dead Steve. 1254 00:33:15,620 --> 00:33:16,900 Computer Chronicles. 1255 00:33:18,420 --> 00:33:19,460 Let's not forget. 1256 00:33:20,140 --> 00:33:21,530 And I don't know what to dip 1257 00:33:21,530 --> 00:33:22,700 into there. 1258 00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:26,380 I was looking just on the 1259 00:33:26,380 --> 00:33:29,450 Computer Chronicles site on the 1260 00:33:29,450 --> 00:33:30,640 YouTube. 1261 00:33:31,060 --> 00:33:31,960 And there's a... 1262 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,340 I think I just scrolled down. 1263 00:33:33,460 --> 00:33:35,230 There might have been a Wendy 1264 00:33:35,230 --> 00:33:38,000 Woods episode that looked goods. 1265 00:33:39,380 --> 00:33:40,430 And it had Wendy Woods in the 1266 00:33:40,430 --> 00:33:41,760 thumbnail. 1267 00:33:43,340 --> 00:33:43,840 But actually... 1268 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:44,340 Actually... 1269 00:33:44,340 --> 00:33:47,160 Actually, fuck. 1270 00:33:47,300 --> 00:33:47,860 Look at this. 1271 00:33:49,300 --> 00:33:50,240 That's a thumbnail. 1272 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:51,880 That you want to see. 1273 00:33:52,380 --> 00:33:54,010 Paul Schindler dressed like a 1274 00:33:54,010 --> 00:33:54,800 hippie. 1275 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,260 Wearing beads and shit. 1276 00:33:58,260 --> 00:33:59,060 And not... 1277 00:33:59,060 --> 00:34:00,040 Oh, it's a random access 1278 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:00,520 special. 1279 00:34:00,580 --> 00:34:01,200 That's three minutes. 1280 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,040 That's just a clip. 1281 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,240 But it might be worth a watch 1282 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,140 anyway. 1283 00:34:05,140 --> 00:34:06,360 Just to see that. 1284 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,260 It looks promising. 1285 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:14,600 Holy shit. 1286 00:34:14,700 --> 00:34:16,160 Thank you very much, Mandalay 1287 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:16,720 Shafay. 1288 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,510 I thought that was a brand new 1289 00:34:18,510 --> 00:34:20,460 tip notification that I didn't 1290 00:34:20,460 --> 00:34:21,540 even create. 1291 00:34:21,660 --> 00:34:22,540 I was wondering how you'd done 1292 00:34:22,540 --> 00:34:22,840 that. 1293 00:34:23,460 --> 00:34:24,000 It's not. 1294 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,860 It's just the noise that Random 1295 00:34:25,860 --> 00:34:26,920 Access makes. 1296 00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:30,340 In the Random Access file this 1297 00:34:30,340 --> 00:34:32,600 week, it's Macworld Expo time 1298 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,680 in Boston with some 400 exhibitors 1299 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,060 showing off their latest Mac 1300 00:34:36,060 --> 00:34:36,760 products. 1301 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,400 Northgate had this upgraded Mac 1302 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,070 keyboard, the OmniMac Ultra, 1303 00:34:40,070 --> 00:34:41,680 featuring macro software. 1304 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:42,320 Isn't it great? 1305 00:34:42,420 --> 00:34:43,950 Sorry, just to see Stu as well, 1306 00:34:43,950 --> 00:34:44,620 you know. 1307 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:45,400 What? 1308 00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:48,080 What a man, what a man, what a 1309 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,420 man, what a mighty, mighty man. 1310 00:34:51,780 --> 00:34:53,420 A mighty, mighty good man. 1311 00:34:53,860 --> 00:34:54,610 Datadesk has a new user 1312 00:34:54,610 --> 00:34:56,230 configurable keyboard called 1313 00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:57,340 the Switchboard. 1314 00:34:57,740 --> 00:34:58,920 CE Software was showing off its 1315 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,370 new upgrade of QuickKeys, a 1316 00:35:00,370 --> 00:35:01,340 macro utility. 1317 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,760 And Reference Software was 1318 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,690 offering free upgrades of Grammatic 1319 00:35:04,690 --> 00:35:05,120 Mac. 1320 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,180 Following the intro of the IBM 1321 00:35:07,180 --> 00:35:09,000 PS1, Tandy has announced the 1322 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,860 new 1000RL computer. 1323 00:35:11,020 --> 00:35:11,300 And you know what's coming? 1324 00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:12,610 Schindler's on the way dressed 1325 00:35:12,610 --> 00:35:13,300 like a hippie. 1326 00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:15,160 24 home-oriented programs, like 1327 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,030 a bill tracker, checkbook balancer, 1328 00:35:17,030 --> 00:35:18,760 shopping organizer, and so on. 1329 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:19,280 He really is. 1330 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,400 He is like a real palate cleanser. 1331 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:22,780 Green Eagle. 1332 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,800 After all the heavy paddock 1333 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:25,300 talk. 1334 00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:25,920 So on. 1335 00:35:26,460 --> 00:35:27,070 Commodore has announced the 1336 00:35:27,070 --> 00:35:28,760 launch of its new Amiga 3000. 1337 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,010 I love that, the way it's just 1338 00:35:31,010 --> 00:35:32,900 going from him to him. 1339 00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:34,610 Look, him to him on another 1340 00:35:34,610 --> 00:35:35,700 camera angle. 1341 00:35:36,140 --> 00:35:37,240 And then the strand with his 1342 00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:38,360 name on it again. 1343 00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:40,980 Like, as if we're gonna forget 1344 00:35:40,980 --> 00:35:42,040 that face. 1345 00:35:42,580 --> 00:35:43,740 Give me a fucking break. 1346 00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:45,370 The other Jeff, thank you very 1347 00:35:45,370 --> 00:35:45,840 much. 1348 00:35:46,540 --> 00:35:48,430 Would you consider checking out 1349 00:35:48,430 --> 00:35:50,250 Arty reality TV show Celebrity 1350 00:35:50,250 --> 00:35:50,780 Farm? 1351 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:52,510 In a follow-up from Who Wants 1352 00:35:52,510 --> 00:35:53,980 to Be a Millionaire? 1353 00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:56,400 Possibly, maybe, definitely, 1354 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,380 maybe, possibly, maybe not 1355 00:35:58,380 --> 00:35:59,180 though. 1356 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:00,280 Do you know? 1357 00:36:01,140 --> 00:36:02,000 Maybe not. 1358 00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:03,040 I can't guarantee. 1359 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:04,790 But what I can say is that I've 1360 00:36:04,790 --> 00:36:06,290 been well furnished with 1361 00:36:06,290 --> 00:36:08,020 suggested videos since I put 1362 00:36:08,020 --> 00:36:10,160 out the call there the last day. 1363 00:36:10,780 --> 00:36:12,010 I feel as though it's just 1364 00:36:12,010 --> 00:36:14,190 Computer Chronicles for me at 1365 00:36:14,190 --> 00:36:16,590 this moment in time, if you don't 1366 00:36:16,590 --> 00:36:17,300 mind. 1367 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,340 Thank you very much, Jeff. 1368 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,680 Several major retail stores, 1369 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,120 including Macy's and Montgomery 1370 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:21,580 Wards. 1371 00:36:21,940 --> 00:36:23,010 Commodore says the Amiga will 1372 00:36:23,010 --> 00:36:25,020 be in 1,200 retail outlets by 1373 00:36:25,020 --> 00:36:26,140 the end of the summer. 1374 00:36:26,860 --> 00:36:27,780 Epson has announced a new color 1375 00:36:27,780 --> 00:36:30,120 scanner that sells for $2,000, 1376 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,120 less than the amount of $1,000. 1377 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,480 Some black and white scanners. 1378 00:36:32,940 --> 00:36:33,910 Time for this week's software 1379 00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:34,460 review. 1380 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:35,460 Here's Paul Schindler. 1381 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,540 Remember the 60s? 1382 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:38,540 Peter Max? 1383 00:36:38,780 --> 00:36:39,700 Tie-dyed shirts? 1384 00:36:40,060 --> 00:36:40,660 The sitar. 1385 00:36:41,060 --> 00:36:42,080 Well, I'm not here to tell you... 1386 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,060 The sitar. 1387 00:36:43,540 --> 00:36:44,560 The 60s? 1388 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:45,560 Peter Max? 1389 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:46,700 Tie-dyed shirts? 1390 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:47,680 The sitar. 1391 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:48,980 Well, I'm not here to tell you 1392 00:36:48,980 --> 00:36:50,340 about anybody's greatest hits 1393 00:36:50,340 --> 00:36:50,780 album, 1394 00:36:51,020 --> 00:36:51,880 but I am going to tell you 1395 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,520 about a software package that, 1396 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,200 for me at least, 1397 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,830 brings back memories of those 1398 00:36:55,830 --> 00:36:56,760 halcyon days. 1399 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,500 Fractools from Borbaki. 1400 00:36:58,740 --> 00:37:00,240 From the people who brought you 1401 00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:01,420 the WonderDos shell, 1402 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,540 comes the company's most 1403 00:37:02,540 --> 00:37:03,670 amusing yet instructive 1404 00:37:03,670 --> 00:37:04,680 software package. 1405 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,340 What a hard on the eyes 1406 00:37:06,340 --> 00:37:07,320 scenario, 1407 00:37:07,460 --> 00:37:08,570 and that's even before you've 1408 00:37:08,570 --> 00:37:10,930 got into the psychedelic, kaleidoscopic 1409 00:37:10,930 --> 00:37:11,920 graphics. 1410 00:37:12,860 --> 00:37:13,820 Just Fractools. 1411 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:15,660 By Borbaki. 1412 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:17,880 Borbaki's Fractools. 1413 00:37:18,100 --> 00:37:19,370 Shell comes the company's most 1414 00:37:19,370 --> 00:37:20,610 amusing yet instructive 1415 00:37:20,610 --> 00:37:21,680 software package. 1416 00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:25,010 Thank you very much there, Stu 1417 00:37:25,010 --> 00:37:25,920 Sorbet. 1418 00:37:26,060 --> 00:37:27,740 Fractools generates fractals. 1419 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,500 Complex, geometric shapes based 1420 00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:31,070 on natural forms like clouds, 1421 00:37:31,070 --> 00:37:32,540 trees, and coastlines. 1422 00:37:32,900 --> 00:37:33,870 You can put the program on 1423 00:37:33,870 --> 00:37:35,440 automatic mode and veg out, 1424 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,840 what could be more 60s. 1425 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:37,280 Veg out, dude. 1426 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,730 Or you can participate in the 1427 00:37:38,730 --> 00:37:40,080 creation of your own patterns 1428 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,210 using a toolkit Borbaki 1429 00:37:41,210 --> 00:37:41,940 provides. 1430 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,310 Officials at Borbaki like to 1431 00:37:43,310 --> 00:37:44,490 promise that Fractools is 1432 00:37:44,490 --> 00:37:45,720 guaranteed to reduce your 1433 00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:46,660 productivity. 1434 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,480 Borbaki. 1435 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,520 Just for tripping out like. 1436 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:51,940 You've seen the same fractals 1437 00:37:51,940 --> 00:37:53,320 at computer shows on systems 1438 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,020 that cost thousands of dollars. 1439 00:37:55,420 --> 00:37:56,670 Generate them on your PC by 1440 00:37:56,670 --> 00:37:58,920 spending $45 on Fractools. 1441 00:37:59,300 --> 00:38:00,890 Chaos made to order from Borbaki 1442 00:38:00,890 --> 00:38:02,200 in Boise, Idaho. 1443 00:38:02,580 --> 00:38:03,820 For the Computer Chronicles, I'm 1444 00:38:03,820 --> 00:38:04,720 Paul Schindler. 1445 00:38:04,940 --> 00:38:05,500 Borbaki. 1446 00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:06,760 Looking at the top 10 software 1447 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:07,850 titles for the Macintosh this 1448 00:38:07,850 --> 00:38:09,090 week, MacConnection reports 1449 00:38:09,090 --> 00:38:10,440 that Symantec's antivirus 1450 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,980 program is the bestseller, 1451 00:38:11,980 --> 00:38:13,680 followed by Pyro, Type Reunion, 1452 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,300 Lifetree's Grammar Checker, and 1453 00:38:15,300 --> 00:38:16,020 Quicken. 1454 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,590 Rounding out the top 10 are 1455 00:38:17,590 --> 00:38:19,160 Type Manager, Word, Excel, 1456 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,040 Delta Graph, and Suitcase 2. 1457 00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:23,940 Suitcase 2 sounds like a dream 1458 00:38:23,940 --> 00:38:24,620 app. 1459 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:25,940 Higgins isn't simple. 1460 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:27,820 Higgins isn't simple. 1461 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,210 Thank you very much, Joey the Lips, 1462 00:38:30,210 --> 00:38:31,840 for your continued support and 1463 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:32,440 tips. 1464 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:33,440 Very, very kind of you. 1465 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,000 Manager, Word, Excel, Delta 1466 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,480 Graph, and Suitcase 2. 1467 00:38:37,060 --> 00:38:38,040 Sun has unveiled its new under 1468 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,260 $10,000. 1469 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:39,960 You got a Sun. 1470 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,580 On our Unix workstation, Sun 1471 00:38:41,580 --> 00:38:43,260 also announced its first ever 1472 00:38:43,260 --> 00:38:45,350 retail deals with Entrez, MicroAge, 1473 00:38:45,350 --> 00:38:46,140 and 9X. 1474 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:47,700 Finally, if you watch Married 1475 00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:49,460 with Children on TV, get ready. 1476 00:38:49,580 --> 00:38:50,760 Have seen this one because it's 1477 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,040 meant to be a computer game. 1478 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,350 I remember going, we're going 1479 00:38:53,350 --> 00:38:54,680 to see that game and play it. 1480 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:55,980 It's not playable. 1481 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,060 So this is a Shafé cut, which 1482 00:38:58,060 --> 00:39:00,320 we've been through already. 1483 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,010 It's amazing how it just, you 1484 00:39:02,010 --> 00:39:03,440 forget about it because it's so 1485 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,280 ephemeral in nature, the show. 1486 00:39:05,580 --> 00:39:06,460 There's so many of them. 1487 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,040 The little bits and pieces like 1488 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,490 this just go by and you forget 1489 00:39:09,490 --> 00:39:10,320 about them. 1490 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,510 For Married with Children, the 1491 00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:12,180 computer game. 1492 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:13,960 Columbia Pictures has licensed 1493 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,560 the rights to the racy TV show. 1494 00:39:15,660 --> 00:39:16,720 Obviously nobody has even said 1495 00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:18,040 you've seen this yet, you know. 1496 00:39:18,140 --> 00:39:19,380 To share data software. 1497 00:39:19,900 --> 00:39:21,160 That's it for this week's Chronicles. 1498 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,200 We'll see you next time. 1499 00:39:23,940 --> 00:39:24,150 The Computer Chronicles is made 1500 00:39:24,150 --> 00:39:26,320 possible in part by CompuServe. 1501 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,380 Maybe somebody said it. 1502 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,020 Which offers online information 1503 00:39:29,020 --> 00:39:30,600 related to today's subject. 1504 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,440 Members type GoChronicles. 1505 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:33,810 Non-members call for more 1506 00:39:33,810 --> 00:39:34,720 information. 1507 00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:36,200 Additional funding is provided 1508 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,450 by the Software Publishers 1509 00:39:37,450 --> 00:39:38,280 Association. 1510 00:39:38,820 --> 00:39:39,220 By PC Connection and Mac 1511 00:39:39,220 --> 00:39:39,900 Connection. 1512 00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:40,940 It's just a three-minute clip. 1513 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,140 Of a full episode. 1514 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:42,620 It is. 1515 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,040 We've seen the episode because 1516 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,440 I remember thinking, that's 1517 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,800 going to be the next game. 1518 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,550 And then I went looking for 1519 00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:49,380 that game. 1520 00:39:49,380 --> 00:39:51,660 And it just wasn't available. 1521 00:39:52,940 --> 00:39:53,960 At the time. 1522 00:39:56,900 --> 00:39:58,140 But look at all this. 1523 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,800 It's the Dara Darmody special. 1524 00:40:02,740 --> 00:40:03,780 Situation room. 1525 00:40:04,860 --> 00:40:05,520 Paddock bomb. 1526 00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:09,040 Every possible way. 1527 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,490 It's the bad twist at the end 1528 00:40:11,490 --> 00:40:13,160 of a good movie. 1529 00:40:13,220 --> 00:40:14,320 You know, at the end of a good 1530 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,260 movie or something. 1531 00:40:15,260 --> 00:40:16,120 It was a good movie. 1532 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:16,560 It's. 1533 00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:19,820 How in the hell did this happen? 1534 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:21,340 Hey, Eric. 1535 00:40:21,420 --> 00:40:22,260 What do you know? 1536 00:40:22,340 --> 00:40:23,640 What facts do you know about 1537 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,040 the last weeks or months? 1538 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,060 Look at this. 1539 00:40:26,140 --> 00:40:27,260 I'd like to go into this. 1540 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,320 Just this title here. 1541 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:29,700 Silicon Glen. 1542 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,360 Smart TV. 1543 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,990 As the computer and television 1544 00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:37,000 begin to emerge. 1545 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,120 We started seeing intelligent 1546 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:39,840 TV sets. 1547 00:40:39,980 --> 00:40:41,160 This program looks at some 1548 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:41,840 examples. 1549 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:45,640 I mean, obviously, computing 1550 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,520 for seniors. 1551 00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:48,980 A look at how senior citizens 1552 00:40:48,980 --> 00:40:50,780 are using computer technology. 1553 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,160 McNally's TripMaker 96. 1554 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,640 Willmaker from Nolopress. 1555 00:40:57,780 --> 00:40:59,480 And Family Tree Maker from Banner 1556 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:00,000 Blue. 1557 00:41:00,620 --> 00:41:01,220 Yeah, I think we'll go with 1558 00:41:01,220 --> 00:41:01,920 that there. 1559 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:02,640 Sorry about that. 1560 00:41:03,260 --> 00:41:04,860 Obviously, you know, the. 1561 00:41:05,420 --> 00:41:06,730 The seasonal offering of 1562 00:41:06,730 --> 00:41:08,960 Computer Chronicles has to be 1563 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,340 the consumer buyer's guide. 1564 00:41:12,340 --> 00:41:14,340 Which I probably would rather 1565 00:41:14,340 --> 00:41:16,180 enjoy as a kind of miniature 1566 00:41:16,180 --> 00:41:17,100 marathon. 1567 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:18,720 You know, back to back. 1568 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,060 Seasonal buyer's guide. 1569 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,600 In some shape or format. 1570 00:41:25,140 --> 00:41:26,520 But not now. 1571 00:41:28,260 --> 00:41:28,900 We'll leave that until it gets 1572 00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:30,760 a little bit closer. 1573 00:41:32,540 --> 00:41:33,420 And that's a loud situation 1574 00:41:33,420 --> 00:41:34,980 right there. 1575 00:41:35,060 --> 00:41:36,140 So we'll best turn that down. 1576 00:41:36,980 --> 00:41:39,280 We'll get our remix keys 1577 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,180 available to us. 1578 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,700 Computing and seniors. 1579 00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:45,900 1996. 1580 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:50,520 Duh. 1581 00:41:52,180 --> 00:41:52,860 Duh. 1582 00:41:54,820 --> 00:41:55,340 Lovely. 1583 00:42:03,540 --> 00:42:05,500 This week on the Computer Chronicles. 1584 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,200 Computers and senior citizens. 1585 00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:08,940 Older Americans are now turning 1586 00:42:08,940 --> 00:42:09,840 to computers. 1587 00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:11,450 To improve the quality of their 1588 00:42:11,450 --> 00:42:11,960 lives. 1589 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,020 Maybe a PC and the right 1590 00:42:13,020 --> 00:42:13,700 software. 1591 00:42:13,820 --> 00:42:14,640 Speed of her look. 1592 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:15,380 What do you do for your parents? 1593 00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:16,540 Fucking speed. 1594 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,040 Speed diligence. 1595 00:42:19,380 --> 00:42:21,680 True, utter due diligence. 1596 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,450 Being performed at a rapid 1597 00:42:23,450 --> 00:42:24,780 lightning pace. 1598 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,720 On that keyboard there. 1599 00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:29,050 And your man had a pair of 1600 00:42:29,050 --> 00:42:31,480 fantastic braces on. 1601 00:42:32,380 --> 00:42:36,040 And he also looked like a quintessential 1602 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,720 senior citizen. 1603 00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:39,930 As well with the tash and the 1604 00:42:39,930 --> 00:42:40,640 hair. 1605 00:42:41,300 --> 00:42:41,940 Of their lives. 1606 00:42:42,060 --> 00:42:43,020 Maybe a PC and the right 1607 00:42:43,020 --> 00:42:44,520 software would be good for your 1608 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,020 parents or grandparents. 1609 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:46,500 Fast. 1610 00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:47,930 We'll show you the most popular 1611 00:42:47,930 --> 00:42:48,920 software for seniors. 1612 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,500 Programs to plan trips. 1613 00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:51,940 Programs to plan estates. 1614 00:42:52,180 --> 00:42:53,160 Most popular software. 1615 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,260 There you go. 1616 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,240 Software for seniors. 1617 00:42:58,620 --> 00:42:59,180 Programs to plan. 1618 00:42:59,180 --> 00:43:02,170 And that's the man there who 1619 00:43:02,170 --> 00:43:05,160 tells you where to go on your 1620 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,660 holidays. 1621 00:43:07,340 --> 00:43:08,260 If you're senior. 1622 00:43:09,140 --> 00:43:10,330 You've got this crazy little 1623 00:43:10,330 --> 00:43:10,880 guy. 1624 00:43:11,340 --> 00:43:13,580 Who appears in a dialogue box. 1625 00:43:14,340 --> 00:43:16,360 Who says select regions, states, 1626 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,670 or countries to explore in the 1627 00:43:18,670 --> 00:43:19,680 list box. 1628 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,460 Plan trips. 1629 00:43:23,460 --> 00:43:24,880 Programs to plan estates. 1630 00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:26,200 And software that helps you 1631 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,600 trace your family roots. 1632 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:28,860 We'll visit a senior center 1633 00:43:28,860 --> 00:43:29,970 where retired folks are 1634 00:43:29,970 --> 00:43:31,560 learning to use the internet. 1635 00:43:32,020 --> 00:43:33,180 We'll explore senior net and 1636 00:43:33,180 --> 00:43:35,260 online services especially for 1637 00:43:35,260 --> 00:43:36,280 older Americans. 1638 00:43:36,660 --> 00:43:37,720 Also, internet tips. 1639 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:38,960 This week's computer news. 1640 00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:40,160 And my pick of the week. 1641 00:43:40,260 --> 00:43:41,430 All coming up next on the 1642 00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:42,700 Computer Chronicles. 1643 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:43,260 Solid. 1644 00:43:43,260 --> 00:43:46,390 Computer Chronicles is made 1645 00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:49,700 possible in part by... 1646 00:43:49,700 --> 00:43:50,960 And you can tell it was hot in 1647 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,240 San Francisco or the Valley or 1648 00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:53,480 wherever it's filmed. 1649 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,840 Because the fella there talking 1650 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,810 to Stu has got his shorts and 1651 00:43:57,810 --> 00:43:59,240 his sneakers on. 1652 00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:01,640 Tanned calves. 1653 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,650 And look at the extension on 1654 00:44:05,650 --> 00:44:07,420 Stu's leg there as well. 1655 00:44:07,820 --> 00:44:08,620 Khaki clad. 1656 00:44:09,060 --> 00:44:09,900 Extendo leg. 1657 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:10,720 5,000. 1658 00:44:11,660 --> 00:44:13,620 These fantastic desks. 1659 00:44:13,900 --> 00:44:14,740 Very high. 1660 00:44:15,780 --> 00:44:17,000 And then you've got these stools. 1661 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,440 These bar stools to match as 1662 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,020 well to get that purchase. 1663 00:44:20,260 --> 00:44:21,700 But that's his starting point. 1664 00:44:21,780 --> 00:44:23,180 That's Stu's launch pad. 1665 00:44:24,540 --> 00:44:25,320 Where he... 1666 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:25,320 He... 1667 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,320 Emerged. 1668 00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:29,450 He's launched from that area of 1669 00:44:29,450 --> 00:44:30,460 the studio. 1670 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:31,460 We never actually see any 1671 00:44:31,460 --> 00:44:32,920 interviews taking place there. 1672 00:44:32,980 --> 00:44:34,950 That's just where he begins his 1673 00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:35,680 saunter. 1674 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,660 Over to this buck here. 1675 00:44:38,020 --> 00:44:39,280 Who's already sat down ready 1676 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,200 and waiting. 1677 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,470 A floor manager or someone is 1678 00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:44,300 just saying... 1679 00:44:44,300 --> 00:44:44,980 Don't get ready. 1680 00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:45,440 Get ready. 1681 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:46,120 It's going to be good. 1682 00:44:46,220 --> 00:44:47,160 He's going to start coming over 1683 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:47,700 to you soon. 1684 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,240 Get ready for Stu. 1685 00:44:51,780 --> 00:44:52,820 She's telling him... 1686 00:44:52,820 --> 00:44:53,990 See that guy there with his 1687 00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:54,660 back to you? 1688 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:55,600 In the red shirt. 1689 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,600 And the extended khaki... 1690 00:44:58,540 --> 00:44:59,760 Chino leg. 1691 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,160 He's going to come at you now. 1692 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,260 And then you can begin the 1693 00:45:04,260 --> 00:45:05,080 dance. 1694 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,060 He's going to dismount. 1695 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,600 Developing PCs for business. 1696 00:45:14,340 --> 00:45:15,080 I like it. 1697 00:45:15,940 --> 00:45:17,540 You really get to see the... 1698 00:45:17,540 --> 00:45:19,020 We're being treated to the 1699 00:45:19,020 --> 00:45:19,700 studio. 1700 00:45:21,820 --> 00:45:23,300 We're not just the audience. 1701 00:45:25,300 --> 00:45:26,310 We're a part of the crew even, 1702 00:45:26,310 --> 00:45:26,740 you know? 1703 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,300 Welcome to my world. 1704 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:31,760 Won't you step inside? 1705 00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:33,340 And then boom. 1706 00:45:34,140 --> 00:45:34,840 Lights up. 1707 00:45:39,980 --> 00:45:41,980 Straight in for the kill. 1708 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:43,840 Handheld gaming devices. 1709 00:45:48,460 --> 00:45:49,720 Hi and welcome to the Computer 1710 00:45:49,720 --> 00:45:50,420 Chronicles. 1711 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,620 I'm Stuart Chiffey. 1712 00:45:51,740 --> 00:45:51,980 Lovely. 1713 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,640 Sometimes we get the impression 1714 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:54,880 that only young guys use 1715 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:55,680 computers. 1716 00:45:55,860 --> 00:45:56,890 Well, that's not really true, 1717 00:45:56,890 --> 00:45:57,420 of course. 1718 00:45:57,660 --> 00:45:58,520 Young guys. 1719 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,060 But what may surprise you is 1720 00:46:00,060 --> 00:46:01,800 that one of the fastest growing 1721 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,480 groups of new computer users 1722 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:04,920 are senior citizens. 1723 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:06,610 Now, one good thing about 1724 00:46:06,610 --> 00:46:07,900 getting older and retiring is 1725 00:46:07,900 --> 00:46:09,190 that you have the time, maybe 1726 00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:10,600 even the money, to travel. 1727 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,070 And one of the most popular 1728 00:46:12,070 --> 00:46:13,960 software categories for seniors 1729 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,740 is trip planning software. 1730 00:46:16,140 --> 00:46:17,120 One of the best in that 1731 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,200 category is TripMaker from Rand 1732 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,680 McNally New Media. 1733 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:21,400 Welcome, Michael. 1734 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:22,100 Thank you. 1735 00:46:22,180 --> 00:46:23,650 Okay, let's say my parents are 1736 00:46:23,650 --> 00:46:23,980 in. 1737 00:46:23,980 --> 00:46:24,870 It's an interesting scenario 1738 00:46:24,870 --> 00:46:25,360 for Michael. 1739 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:26,840 I mean, what would senior 1740 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,900 citizens use these days, even? 1741 00:46:28,980 --> 00:46:30,080 It's just Google, isn't it? 1742 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,190 Or they'd buy a package holiday, 1743 00:46:32,190 --> 00:46:33,920 much like the ones advertised 1744 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,600 on Midwest, where you go away 1745 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,290 as part of a junket express 1746 00:46:39,290 --> 00:46:42,940 tour to the Costa del Sol for a, 1747 00:46:42,940 --> 00:46:45,340 you know, what was it? 1748 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:47,240 What's the name? 1749 00:46:47,380 --> 00:46:48,140 Tommy Marin. 1750 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:49,680 And you get to see, like, 1751 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,300 Michael English and other 1752 00:46:51,300 --> 00:46:51,940 singers. 1753 00:46:51,940 --> 00:46:54,500 You're there for a week or two. 1754 00:46:55,980 --> 00:46:56,920 That kind of a way. 1755 00:46:57,220 --> 00:46:58,260 Everything's catered for, you 1756 00:46:58,260 --> 00:46:59,430 know, your evening meal, all 1757 00:46:59,430 --> 00:47:00,600 that sort of business. 1758 00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:02,190 But then again, maybe not so 1759 00:47:02,190 --> 00:47:03,240 much nowadays. 1760 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,190 I mean, look, people would just 1761 00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:06,880 be, I'd say there are a lot of 1762 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,490 people who just do their own 1763 00:47:08,490 --> 00:47:10,170 stuff without having to go on 1764 00:47:10,170 --> 00:47:11,660 those package deals. 1765 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:12,870 But the package deal would be 1766 00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:13,520 very handy. 1767 00:47:14,020 --> 00:47:16,750 So even back in 1996 now, I'd 1768 00:47:16,750 --> 00:47:18,960 say it's asking a lot of the 1769 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,390 senior citizen to start ingratiating 1770 00:47:21,390 --> 00:47:23,420 themselves in the ways of the 1771 00:47:23,420 --> 00:47:25,830 Internet and then downloading, 1772 00:47:25,830 --> 00:47:27,800 installing software. 1773 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,580 It's a lot of work for them. 1774 00:47:30,580 --> 00:47:32,080 Rand McNally, Newt Media. 1775 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:32,840 Welcome, Michael. 1776 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:33,420 Thank you. 1777 00:47:33,420 --> 00:47:33,920 Thank you. 1778 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:33,920 Okay. 1779 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,110 Let's say my parents are in 1780 00:47:35,110 --> 00:47:36,360 Chicago and they've always 1781 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,500 wanted to come out west of 1782 00:47:37,500 --> 00:47:39,040 California and they're planning 1783 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:39,600 a trip. 1784 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,790 How would they use the software 1785 00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:41,660 to help them do that? 1786 00:47:41,660 --> 00:47:42,200 Okay. 1787 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,230 Well, let's get started and 1788 00:47:43,230 --> 00:47:44,060 take a look at the Explorer 1789 00:47:44,060 --> 00:47:44,480 Guide. 1790 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:45,830 The Explorer Guide helps you 1791 00:47:45,830 --> 00:47:47,360 investigate locations and find 1792 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,780 interesting things to do. 1793 00:47:50,780 --> 00:47:52,180 We focused on ease of use. 1794 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,340 You can see the, and hear the 1795 00:47:54,340 --> 00:47:55,340 audio here. 1796 00:47:56,500 --> 00:47:57,010 Even help you select a 1797 00:47:57,010 --> 00:47:58,360 destination. 1798 00:47:59,060 --> 00:47:59,260 All right. 1799 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,120 So we're going to pick a place 1800 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:00,500 to go to. 1801 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,180 And I said California, Nevada. 1802 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,090 Let's go ahead and select 1803 00:48:03,090 --> 00:48:04,040 California, Nevada. 1804 00:48:05,500 --> 00:48:06,040 These are all the trip types, 1805 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,140 interesting attractions that 1806 00:48:08,140 --> 00:48:09,320 you might see. 1807 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,750 Scroll down if you want to go 1808 00:48:10,750 --> 00:48:12,370 to the beach, tennis, golf, 1809 00:48:12,370 --> 00:48:14,280 fishing, outdoor adventure. 1810 00:48:14,420 --> 00:48:15,280 I don't think there'll be much. 1811 00:48:16,860 --> 00:48:17,170 Well, maybe they'll be suited 1812 00:48:17,170 --> 00:48:18,960 or tailor-made to the senior 1813 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:19,760 citizen. 1814 00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:21,090 But I mean, you wouldn't think 1815 00:48:21,090 --> 00:48:22,020 to be that entrepid. 1816 00:48:22,020 --> 00:48:22,680 By category. 1817 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,040 So if they're interested in 1818 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,400 particular things to do once 1819 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,560 they get there, they can 1820 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,160 customize the trip planning? 1821 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:29,100 Yes, they can, by their 1822 00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:29,640 interest. 1823 00:48:29,740 --> 00:48:31,060 So they would like a heritage 1824 00:48:31,060 --> 00:48:31,800 type stuff. 1825 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:32,940 Let's select heritage. 1826 00:48:32,940 --> 00:48:33,920 Heritage type stuff. 1827 00:48:33,940 --> 00:48:34,520 They might be interested in 1828 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:35,400 camping, boating, and fishing. 1829 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:36,140 Okay. 1830 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:37,710 Let's run down through the list 1831 00:48:37,710 --> 00:48:38,200 here. 1832 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,270 Maybe urban attractions in 1833 00:48:39,270 --> 00:48:40,160 different cities. 1834 00:48:40,220 --> 00:48:40,520 Okay. 1835 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:42,870 And let's also select vacation 1836 00:48:42,870 --> 00:48:43,720 cities. 1837 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:44,020 Okay. 1838 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,740 Here you set the calendar, the 1839 00:48:48,740 --> 00:48:49,920 time that you want to take your 1840 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:50,300 trip. 1841 00:48:50,300 --> 00:48:50,620 Mm-hmm. 1842 00:48:51,140 --> 00:48:51,620 Mm-hmm. 1843 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:54,560 Here's the fun. 1844 00:48:55,020 --> 00:48:56,000 And here you have all those 1845 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,270 attractions that meet the 1846 00:48:57,270 --> 00:48:58,640 criteria that you set. 1847 00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,550 So these are the areas they 1848 00:48:59,550 --> 00:49:00,560 might want to visit once they 1849 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:01,220 come out here. 1850 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,370 Like L.A., for example, it 1851 00:49:02,370 --> 00:49:03,060 would be a city. 1852 00:49:03,460 --> 00:49:04,320 And so what would the program 1853 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:05,510 tell me about what to do when 1854 00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:06,640 they get to L.A.? 1855 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:24,200 Be a good choice. 1856 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,180 Yeah, see, he spoke over Stu's 1857 00:49:27,180 --> 00:49:30,200 question, which led to hanging 1858 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,060 Chad. 1859 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,360 We hear that again. 1860 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:34,560 And so what would the program 1861 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:35,710 tell me about what to do when 1862 00:49:35,710 --> 00:49:36,800 they get to L.A.? 1863 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,630 It's kind of, it's a real, I 1864 00:49:39,630 --> 00:49:42,520 mean, if you want to derail Stu, 1865 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,860 I suppose a good way of doing 1866 00:49:44,860 --> 00:49:46,350 it is just to go out, be in 1867 00:49:46,350 --> 00:49:47,780 your own world when Stu's 1868 00:49:47,780 --> 00:49:49,240 trying to hammer you. 1869 00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:49,320 Yeah. 1870 00:49:50,740 --> 00:49:51,960 And this isn't the most hammerhead 1871 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,580 we've seen, Stu. 1872 00:49:53,660 --> 00:49:54,400 We know what he's like. 1873 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:55,780 He's ruthless if he wants to be. 1874 00:49:56,780 --> 00:49:57,540 Like L.A., for example, it 1875 00:49:57,540 --> 00:49:58,560 would be a city. 1876 00:49:58,960 --> 00:49:59,820 And so what would the program 1877 00:49:59,820 --> 00:50:01,010 tell me about what to do when 1878 00:50:01,010 --> 00:50:02,160 they get to L.A.? 1879 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:02,160 Be a good choice. 1880 00:50:02,900 --> 00:50:04,520 That's on Michael now. 1881 00:50:04,580 --> 00:50:06,070 That's not on Stu because you 1882 00:50:06,070 --> 00:50:07,700 don't wait 10 minutes for 1883 00:50:07,700 --> 00:50:09,440 someone to go into the next bit 1884 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,300 of chat to go, be a good choice. 1885 00:50:11,820 --> 00:50:12,700 Maybe Michael's kind of, maybe 1886 00:50:12,700 --> 00:50:14,160 it's just, you know, nerves. 1887 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:15,800 Of all those attractions that 1888 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,660 meet the criteria that you set. 1889 00:50:17,660 --> 00:50:18,790 These are the areas they might 1890 00:50:18,790 --> 00:50:19,870 want to visit once they come 1891 00:50:19,870 --> 00:50:20,360 out here. 1892 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:21,520 Like L.A., for example, it 1893 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:22,220 would be a city. 1894 00:50:22,620 --> 00:50:23,460 And so what would the program 1895 00:50:23,460 --> 00:50:24,570 tell me about what to do when 1896 00:50:24,570 --> 00:50:25,700 they get to L.A.? 1897 00:50:25,700 --> 00:50:27,220 That's a big delay, isn't it? 1898 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:28,870 What you can do is find a 1899 00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:31,150 narrative as well as a lookout, 1900 00:50:31,150 --> 00:50:33,460 which is a new feature that we've 1901 00:50:33,460 --> 00:50:36,100 added to the software this year. 1902 00:50:37,220 --> 00:50:39,940 Hollywood, movie and television 1903 00:50:39,940 --> 00:50:42,270 capital, is only a part of the 1904 00:50:42,270 --> 00:50:45,180 West Coast's leading metropolis, 1905 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,250 which began in an area around 1906 00:50:47,250 --> 00:50:49,710 the old Spanish Plaza, north of 1907 00:50:49,710 --> 00:50:51,140 the Civic Center. 1908 00:50:52,200 --> 00:51:06,860 And so on and so forth. 1909 00:51:06,860 --> 00:51:16,490 You bring up a panoramic image 1910 00:51:16,490 --> 00:51:21,400 of Los Angeles. 1911 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:22,940 You can zoom around that image. 1912 00:51:23,140 --> 00:51:24,500 There are hot spots that allow 1913 00:51:24,500 --> 00:51:25,800 you to go in and click on 1914 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,370 various locations and find out 1915 00:51:27,370 --> 00:51:28,260 more about it. 1916 00:51:28,260 --> 00:51:29,390 It does more than just buying 1917 00:51:29,390 --> 00:51:30,820 the book on L.A., for example, 1918 00:51:30,820 --> 00:51:31,750 because it has all these 1919 00:51:31,750 --> 00:51:33,060 interactive elements to it. 1920 00:51:33,380 --> 00:51:33,700 Yeah. 1921 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:34,850 So you get a real feel for Los 1922 00:51:34,850 --> 00:51:35,840 Angeles and what there is to do 1923 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,180 there and what there is to say. 1924 00:51:37,180 --> 00:51:38,500 I know they don't really care 1925 00:51:38,500 --> 00:51:39,560 that much about the city. 1926 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:40,810 They want to do the Carmel, 1927 00:51:40,810 --> 00:51:42,340 Monterey, gorgeous California 1928 00:51:42,340 --> 00:51:42,740 bit. 1929 00:51:42,820 --> 00:51:43,820 So how would I help them with 1930 00:51:43,820 --> 00:51:44,200 this? 1931 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:45,810 Okay, the software can help you 1932 00:51:45,810 --> 00:51:46,560 out there as well. 1933 00:51:46,660 --> 00:51:47,880 Let's go down and select Carmel. 1934 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:48,580 Michael McCona... 1935 00:51:48,580 --> 00:51:49,380 McConaughey. 1936 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:50,000 Oh, okay. 1937 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:50,940 The software can help you. 1938 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:51,880 McConaughey. 1939 00:51:52,060 --> 00:51:52,620 McConaughey. 1940 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:54,520 Rand McNally. 1941 00:51:55,420 --> 00:51:57,690 And he's beginning to work with 1942 00:51:57,690 --> 00:51:58,840 Stu now. 1943 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,430 And it's a lovely coiffured 1944 00:52:02,430 --> 00:52:03,420 side shrub 1945 00:52:03,420 --> 00:52:08,080 with a side parting maneuver 1946 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,180 box on top. 1947 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:12,880 But so clean. 1948 00:52:13,240 --> 00:52:14,240 So well washed. 1949 00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:16,900 Out there as well. 1950 00:52:16,980 --> 00:52:18,240 Let's go down and select Carmel. 1951 00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:21,900 And once you come into Carmel, 1952 00:52:21,900 --> 00:52:23,510 you have a video of that area 1953 00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:25,050 you can play and learn more 1954 00:52:25,050 --> 00:52:25,800 about it. 1955 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,540 100 miles of California's 1956 00:52:27,540 --> 00:52:28,920 central coast called Big Sur 1957 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:29,940 offer one of the most 1958 00:52:29,940 --> 00:52:31,880 spectacular driving experiences. 1959 00:52:32,540 --> 00:52:33,180 Big Sur. 1960 00:52:34,180 --> 00:52:34,500 All right. 1961 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:35,690 Now, how do they actually 1962 00:52:35,690 --> 00:52:37,120 figure out how to get there? 1963 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,220 You can take a sound of a look. 1964 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:39,580 All right. 1965 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:40,790 Now, how do they actually 1966 00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:42,220 figure out how to get there? 1967 00:52:42,300 --> 00:52:43,440 Suppose they're going to drive. 1968 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:44,800 Does this help them plan the 1969 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:45,750 route and that kind of stuff 1970 00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:46,040 too? 1971 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:46,380 Sure. 1972 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:47,540 From here, you can go ahead and 1973 00:52:47,540 --> 00:52:48,320 set destination. 1974 00:52:49,420 --> 00:52:50,210 And we'll set Carmel as a 1975 00:52:50,210 --> 00:52:51,160 destination. 1976 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,180 Go into the trip guide. 1977 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:56,640 And we're going from Chicago to 1978 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:57,100 Carmel. 1979 00:52:57,100 --> 00:52:58,080 So at this point, we'll go 1980 00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,320 ahead and calculate our trip. 1981 00:52:59,380 --> 00:53:01,610 He must have a little rollerball 1982 00:53:01,610 --> 00:53:03,910 on his laptop there because he's 1983 00:53:03,910 --> 00:53:05,700 doing his mouse work. 1984 00:53:05,780 --> 00:53:06,960 But I don't see a mouse. 1985 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,670 So there must be some sort of 1986 00:53:10,670 --> 00:53:12,560 fingerball in the middle of the 1987 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:13,140 pad. 1988 00:53:13,140 --> 00:53:14,470 And we're going from Chicago to 1989 00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:14,980 Carmel. 1990 00:53:14,980 --> 00:53:15,750 So at this point, we'll go 1991 00:53:15,750 --> 00:53:16,080 ahead. 1992 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,620 Zero eye contact indeed, CJ. 1993 00:53:18,780 --> 00:53:19,600 I noticed that. 1994 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,600 He's just been like that the 1995 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:22,820 entire time. 1996 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,310 But he does have to navigate 1997 00:53:24,310 --> 00:53:25,980 through the menu and system. 1998 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:27,590 But you would like to have that 1999 00:53:27,590 --> 00:53:28,600 bit of rapport. 2000 00:53:28,820 --> 00:53:30,110 And I think Stu can feel it as 2001 00:53:30,110 --> 00:53:30,560 well. 2002 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:32,200 And we'll set Carmel as a 2003 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:33,280 destination. 2004 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:33,740 It's not great. 2005 00:53:34,260 --> 00:53:35,520 Go into the trip guide. 2006 00:53:37,540 --> 00:53:38,520 And we're going from Chicago to 2007 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:39,540 Carmel. 2008 00:53:39,740 --> 00:53:40,430 So at this point, we'll go 2009 00:53:40,430 --> 00:53:41,620 ahead and calculate our trip. 2010 00:53:42,300 --> 00:53:42,420 Okay. 2011 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:43,230 And what does it mean to 2012 00:53:43,230 --> 00:53:43,980 calculate the trip? 2013 00:53:44,260 --> 00:53:45,410 That means we'll identify the 2014 00:53:45,410 --> 00:53:46,750 best route for you to take in 2015 00:53:46,750 --> 00:53:48,320 between Chicago and Carmel. 2016 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:49,820 Medusa, Stu. 2017 00:53:50,020 --> 00:53:50,580 And also bring up... 2018 00:53:50,580 --> 00:53:52,370 Maybe he is scared of looking 2019 00:53:52,370 --> 00:53:53,600 at Stu in the eye. 2020 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:55,980 Because he's already felt... 2021 00:53:55,980 --> 00:53:56,820 Stuff to do on the way. 2022 00:53:56,980 --> 00:53:57,600 His presence. 2023 00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:58,660 How to get there, where to make 2024 00:53:58,660 --> 00:53:59,690 the lefts and the rights and 2025 00:53:59,690 --> 00:54:00,300 all that stuff. 2026 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:00,340 Exactly. 2027 00:54:00,340 --> 00:54:01,350 You can go ahead and look at 2028 00:54:01,350 --> 00:54:02,650 the attractions and identify 2029 00:54:02,650 --> 00:54:03,560 all those on your route that 2030 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:04,240 you might be interested in. 2031 00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:05,200 stopping by to see. 2032 00:54:05,580 --> 00:54:06,100 And you can print this 2033 00:54:06,100 --> 00:54:07,250 information out and take it 2034 00:54:07,250 --> 00:54:08,280 with you on your trip. 2035 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:08,620 All right. 2036 00:54:08,660 --> 00:54:09,640 Now, so if they're coming to 2037 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:10,820 Carmel, they're probably going 2038 00:54:10,820 --> 00:54:11,820 to drive up to San Francisco 2039 00:54:11,820 --> 00:54:12,200 also. 2040 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:13,320 Can they actually get like a 2041 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,450 city map so they can figure out 2042 00:54:14,450 --> 00:54:15,550 how to get to my house or stuff 2043 00:54:15,550 --> 00:54:16,180 like that? 2044 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,230 Great intonation by Stu on the 2045 00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:20,360 words Carmel and city maps. 2046 00:54:20,540 --> 00:54:22,360 Listen to the way in which he 2047 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,570 offers a little boost on those 2048 00:54:24,570 --> 00:54:25,320 words. 2049 00:54:26,180 --> 00:54:27,740 Really brings them out like... 2050 00:54:27,740 --> 00:54:28,600 This information out. 2051 00:54:28,900 --> 00:54:29,380 Carmel. 2052 00:54:30,020 --> 00:54:30,420 Loud. 2053 00:54:30,420 --> 00:54:31,420 And then... 2054 00:54:31,420 --> 00:54:32,620 And take it with you on your 2055 00:54:32,620 --> 00:54:33,020 trip. 2056 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:33,880 City maps. 2057 00:54:33,980 --> 00:54:34,120 All right. 2058 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,140 Now, so if they're coming to 2059 00:54:35,140 --> 00:54:36,540 Carmel, they're probably... 2060 00:54:36,540 --> 00:54:36,940 Carmel. 2061 00:54:37,380 --> 00:54:39,020 And there's also a kind of... 2062 00:54:39,020 --> 00:54:40,220 He throws his body into it 2063 00:54:40,220 --> 00:54:40,740 there. 2064 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,040 He winds up and you can see it 2065 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,080 in the shoulders. 2066 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:45,660 Almost like a... 2067 00:54:45,660 --> 00:54:46,540 Again, like I've said before, 2068 00:54:46,540 --> 00:54:47,080 like a... 2069 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:47,860 Like a cobra. 2070 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:50,480 Striking on Carmel. 2071 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:52,560 And you can print this 2072 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:53,660 information out and take it 2073 00:54:53,660 --> 00:54:55,340 with you on your trip. 2074 00:54:55,500 --> 00:54:55,700 All right. 2075 00:54:55,700 --> 00:54:56,710 Now, so if they're coming to 2076 00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:57,870 Carmel, they're probably going 2077 00:54:57,870 --> 00:54:58,840 to drive up to San Francisco 2078 00:54:58,840 --> 00:54:59,260 also. 2079 00:54:59,260 --> 00:55:00,390 Can they actually get like a 2080 00:55:00,390 --> 00:55:01,510 city map so they can figure out 2081 00:55:01,510 --> 00:55:02,570 how to get to my house or stuff 2082 00:55:02,570 --> 00:55:03,240 like that? 2083 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:03,920 Sure they can. 2084 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,280 Let's go ahead and take a look 2085 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:06,360 at San Francisco. 2086 00:55:08,940 --> 00:55:09,720 And go down and select insect 2087 00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:10,720 maps. 2088 00:55:10,860 --> 00:55:12,420 We have 240 insect maps. 2089 00:55:12,420 --> 00:55:13,180 Select insect maps. 2090 00:55:13,180 --> 00:55:15,760 We have detailed street level 2091 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,420 information for many of the 2092 00:55:17,420 --> 00:55:19,320 large cities in North America. 2093 00:55:20,420 --> 00:55:20,740 All right. 2094 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:21,260 Yeah, that's it. 2095 00:55:21,300 --> 00:55:22,160 So they can really get... 2096 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,340 And you could even zoom in more 2097 00:55:23,340 --> 00:55:24,380 than that and actually see 2098 00:55:24,380 --> 00:55:24,900 streets. 2099 00:55:25,060 --> 00:55:26,060 You can see streets. 2100 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:26,820 You can print this out. 2101 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:27,840 And I can print that out too. 2102 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:28,120 Sure. 2103 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:28,720 All right. 2104 00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:29,060 So... 2105 00:55:29,060 --> 00:55:30,880 And a bit of eye contact there 2106 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,100 and that ends the demonstration. 2107 00:55:33,540 --> 00:55:34,500 You can see streets. 2108 00:55:34,500 --> 00:55:34,780 That's great. 2109 00:55:34,780 --> 00:55:35,300 You can print this out. 2110 00:55:35,300 --> 00:55:36,300 And I can print that out too. 2111 00:55:36,380 --> 00:55:36,600 Sure. 2112 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:37,180 All right. 2113 00:55:37,180 --> 00:55:37,420 Lovely. 2114 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:38,500 So it's Trip Maker from Rand 2115 00:55:38,500 --> 00:55:39,040 McNally. 2116 00:55:39,140 --> 00:55:39,920 Thanks very much, Michael. 2117 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:40,220 Thank you, Stuart. 2118 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:40,820 All right. 2119 00:55:40,860 --> 00:55:42,300 How do seniors become computer 2120 00:55:42,300 --> 00:55:43,640 savvy in the first place? 2121 00:55:43,720 --> 00:55:44,640 Well, they take classes. 2122 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:45,970 In fact, one of the most 2123 00:55:45,970 --> 00:55:47,710 popular courses at the Willows 2124 00:55:47,710 --> 00:55:49,240 Senior Center in San Jose, 2125 00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:49,980 California 2126 00:55:49,980 --> 00:55:51,500 is the one on computers. 2127 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:53,490 The Willows Senior Center in 2128 00:55:53,490 --> 00:55:55,880 San Jose, California is a beehive 2129 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,870 of activity on almost any day 2130 00:55:57,870 --> 00:55:58,180 of 2131 00:55:58,180 --> 00:55:58,600 the week. 2132 00:55:59,140 --> 00:56:00,530 Young or old, there are clubs 2133 00:56:00,530 --> 00:56:02,550 and classes for every stripe, 2134 00:56:02,550 --> 00:56:04,420 from chess to sewing to line 2135 00:56:04,420 --> 00:56:04,800 dancing. 2136 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,140 The center also organizes trips 2137 00:56:09,140 --> 00:56:10,550 and excursions and offers 2138 00:56:10,550 --> 00:56:12,220 social and legal services. 2139 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:13,600 But some of the most popular 2140 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,190 classes by far are the computer 2141 00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:16,700 classes, which are usually 2142 00:56:16,700 --> 00:56:17,140 filled 2143 00:56:17,140 --> 00:56:17,860 to capacity. 2144 00:56:18,740 --> 00:56:19,250 Since they were introduced in 2145 00:56:19,250 --> 00:56:21,740 early 1990s, which are usually... 2146 00:56:21,740 --> 00:56:23,610 A high waist belt situation for 2147 00:56:23,610 --> 00:56:25,080 the Senior Net class. 2148 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,280 ...filled to capacity. 2149 00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:27,300 Since... 2150 00:56:27,300 --> 00:56:28,380 ...packed to capacity. 2151 00:56:28,700 --> 00:56:30,820 And look at that CRT telly in 2152 00:56:30,820 --> 00:56:32,220 the corner. 2153 00:56:32,380 --> 00:56:33,340 It's fucking massive. 2154 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:35,580 Absolutely huge. 2155 00:56:35,580 --> 00:56:37,770 As they were introduced in 2156 00:56:37,770 --> 00:56:40,370 early 1994, the number of 2157 00:56:40,370 --> 00:56:42,840 classes has quadrupled, and the 2158 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:43,140 Willows 2159 00:56:43,140 --> 00:56:44,460 Center is now also a teaching 2160 00:56:44,460 --> 00:56:45,930 site for Senior Net, the online 2161 00:56:45,930 --> 00:56:47,540 group for computing seniors. 2162 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:48,900 We've had some students that 2163 00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:50,240 when they first came into the 2164 00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:51,400 class, they... 2165 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:51,820 Briscoe. 2166 00:56:51,860 --> 00:56:53,360 You know, they really had no 2167 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:54,950 idea what a computer was and, 2168 00:56:54,950 --> 00:56:56,690 you know, really kind of afraid 2169 00:56:56,690 --> 00:56:57,480 to... 2170 00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,240 fool with a mouse. 2171 00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:01,140 And now those same individuals 2172 00:57:01,140 --> 00:57:03,030 are helping coach and teaching 2173 00:57:03,030 --> 00:57:04,480 some of the classes. 2174 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:05,850 So it's, you know, it's kind of 2175 00:57:05,850 --> 00:57:07,340 surprising where, you know, you 2176 00:57:07,340 --> 00:57:08,470 see the development of the 2177 00:57:08,470 --> 00:57:09,080 people. 2178 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,860 Some of their attitudes are 2179 00:57:10,860 --> 00:57:11,760 changing. 2180 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,370 Students have different reasons 2181 00:57:13,370 --> 00:57:14,690 for attending the computer 2182 00:57:14,690 --> 00:57:15,300 classes. 2183 00:57:15,300 --> 00:57:16,740 Some want to log on to make new 2184 00:57:16,740 --> 00:57:18,340 friends or to take advantage of 2185 00:57:18,340 --> 00:57:19,880 online resources that don't 2186 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,040 require leaving the house. 2187 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,020 Other senior students have loftier 2188 00:57:23,020 --> 00:57:23,600 goals. 2189 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,870 I would like to find a part-time 2190 00:57:25,870 --> 00:57:27,720 job using a computer. 2191 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,780 I felt that I didn't have any 2192 00:57:29,780 --> 00:57:31,940 confidence in trying to even 2193 00:57:31,940 --> 00:57:32,720 try it. 2194 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:33,840 And after I came, I found out 2195 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,060 it wasn't that difficult. 2196 00:57:35,060 --> 00:57:38,310 I don't think there is a, um, 2197 00:57:38,310 --> 00:57:41,300 an age limit with computers 2198 00:57:41,300 --> 00:57:44,600 like there are on some jobs. 2199 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,550 I feel that you could either 2200 00:57:46,550 --> 00:57:48,510 work at home or work through 2201 00:57:48,510 --> 00:57:50,640 agencies for people that need 2202 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,590 you to enter data for them, 2203 00:57:52,590 --> 00:57:54,280 that sort of thing. 2204 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,550 You know, there's the myth that 2205 00:57:55,550 --> 00:57:56,870 seniors can't change, but, you 2206 00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:58,220 know, that's not the case. 2207 00:57:58,220 --> 00:57:59,280 It's, you know, it's been 2208 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:00,220 proven that... 2209 00:58:00,220 --> 00:58:02,260 It's been proven that seniors 2210 00:58:02,260 --> 00:58:03,280 can change. 2211 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:04,720 With the class... 2212 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,490 I wonder will he roll out the "you 2213 00:58:06,490 --> 00:58:07,880 can't teach an old dog new 2214 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,000 tricks" phrase? 2215 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,140 I don't think he will. We've 2216 00:58:10,140 --> 00:58:11,160 gone past it. It's gone too far. 2217 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,680 The classes that we offer here 2218 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:13,960 as well as other programs 2219 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,420 throughout the, you know, 2220 00:58:15,420 --> 00:58:17,130 throughout the nation that, you 2221 00:58:17,130 --> 00:58:18,830 know, seniors do learn and can, 2222 00:58:18,830 --> 00:58:20,840 you know, improve their lives. 2223 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,290 And so, you know, I think that's 2224 00:58:22,290 --> 00:58:23,390 one of the benefits of the 2225 00:58:23,390 --> 00:58:24,480 SeniorNet program. 2226 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:25,940 Whatever the goal, age should 2227 00:58:25,940 --> 00:58:27,110 not be a barrier to taking 2228 00:58:27,110 --> 00:58:28,450 those first halting steps at 2229 00:58:28,450 --> 00:58:29,980 learning something new, whether 2230 00:58:29,980 --> 00:58:30,780 it's moving your feet... 2231 00:58:30,780 --> 00:58:31,480 Great shots. 2232 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,040 ...or moving the cursor. 2233 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,610 For the Computer Chronicles, I'm 2234 00:58:34,610 --> 00:58:35,480 Giles Bateman. 2235 00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:45,160 ...or moving the cursor. 2236 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,160 ...or moving the cursor. 2237 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,160 ...or moving the cursor. 2238 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,160 ...or moving the cursor. 2239 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,370 Well, when you're young, you 2240 00:58:52,370 --> 00:58:53,630 think you'll live forever, but 2241 00:58:53,630 --> 00:58:55,160 when those aches and pains... 2242 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:56,220 You do, and that's the fucking 2243 00:58:56,220 --> 00:58:57,160 shit thing, you know? 2244 00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,350 ...when you start to realize 2245 00:59:00,350 --> 00:59:02,840 that you're going to die. 2246 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,840 Do you know? Yeah, it happens. 2247 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,660 It happens. It might not have 2248 00:59:06,660 --> 00:59:08,390 happened to you yet, but you 2249 00:59:08,390 --> 00:59:09,960 will. It will come to you at 2250 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:10,840 some stage. 2251 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,300 So just enjoy it. Enjoy it 2252 00:59:13,300 --> 00:59:16,520 before the recreation happens. 2253 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,080 Well, when you're young, you 2254 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,700 think you'll live forever, but 2255 00:59:19,700 --> 00:59:21,020 when those aches and pains 2256 00:59:21,020 --> 00:59:22,760 start creeping in, you know it's 2257 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,520 time to think about the future. 2258 00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,660 But the future is, of course, 2259 00:59:27,660 --> 00:59:30,670 that there is inevitably not 2260 00:59:30,670 --> 00:59:33,440 going to be any future at some 2261 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:34,520 point. 2262 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,230 ...or moving the cursor. It's 2263 00:59:37,230 --> 00:59:40,200 Alvin Wilmaker. 2264 00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,590 ...or moving the cursor. It's 2265 00:59:42,590 --> 00:59:44,200 Alvin Wilmaker. 2266 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,850 ...or moving the cursor. It's 2267 00:59:46,850 --> 00:59:48,200 Alvin Wilmaker. 2268 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,850 ...or moving the cursor. It's 2269 00:59:50,850 --> 00:59:52,200 Alvin Wilmaker. 2270 00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,850 ...or moving the cursor. It's 2271 00:59:54,850 --> 00:59:56,200 Alvin Wilmaker. 2272 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,850 ...or moving the cursor. It's 2273 00:59:58,850 --> 01:00:00,200 Alvin Wilmaker. 2274 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,200 ...or moving the cursor. It's 2275 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:02,200 Alvin Wilmaker. 2276 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:10,250 Alvin Stardust. Alvin and the 2277 01:00:10,250 --> 01:00:13,880 Chipmunks. 2278 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,160 First of all, what are the... 2279 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:16,170 There are actually more than 2280 01:00:16,170 --> 01:00:17,450 just a will you can do with Wilmaker, 2281 01:00:17,450 --> 01:00:17,880 right? 2282 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,090 Yeah, Wilmaker makes three 2283 01:00:19,090 --> 01:00:20,200 different documents. A will, 2284 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:21,420 healthcare directions, also 2285 01:00:21,420 --> 01:00:22,480 known as a living will, and 2286 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:23,880 also a document called... 2287 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,790 ...the documents, a will... 2288 01:00:25,790 --> 01:00:27,240 Sorry, his name was Alan Renauer 2289 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:27,880 from NOLO. 2290 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,220 ...a healthcare directions, 2291 01:00:29,220 --> 01:00:30,220 also known as a living will, 2292 01:00:30,220 --> 01:00:31,170 and also a document called 2293 01:00:31,170 --> 01:00:32,260 Final Arrangements, where you 2294 01:00:32,260 --> 01:00:33,350 set out whatever arrangements 2295 01:00:33,350 --> 01:00:34,430 you've made for your funeral or 2296 01:00:34,430 --> 01:00:35,560 cremation or whatever. 2297 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:36,570 Right. All right, let's focus 2298 01:00:36,570 --> 01:00:37,560 on making the will right now. 2299 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:38,820 And suppose I'm just starting 2300 01:00:38,820 --> 01:00:39,560 from scratch. 2301 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,360 ...I've decided, yeah, I should 2302 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:42,660 start thinking about making a 2303 01:00:42,660 --> 01:00:44,040 will. How do I use the software 2304 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:45,240 to begin that process? 2305 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,060 Well, you get it out of the box, 2306 01:00:47,060 --> 01:00:48,180 install it, and you get 2307 01:00:48,180 --> 01:00:49,970 oriented here. And the first 2308 01:00:49,970 --> 01:00:51,240 thing you do... 2309 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:52,470 ...is you create a new 2310 01:00:52,470 --> 01:00:54,500 portfolio. Okay, so... So let's 2311 01:00:54,500 --> 01:00:56,190 click there, and we'll enter 2312 01:00:56,190 --> 01:00:56,920 our name. Okay. 2313 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,920 Okay. Joe Smith. 2314 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:00,430 So it's really a dialogue, a 2315 01:01:00,430 --> 01:01:01,630 series of questions that the 2316 01:01:01,630 --> 01:01:02,920 software will ask you. 2317 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,920 You can't do this in Ireland. 2318 01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,090 You're saying that you have to 2319 01:01:06,090 --> 01:01:07,780 go to a solicitor. You mean you 2320 01:01:07,780 --> 01:01:10,000 can't even just fucking do your 2321 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,410 own will? Is that it? You have 2322 01:01:13,410 --> 01:01:15,440 to have someone who is legally 2323 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:16,920 able to fucking sign it up. 2324 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:18,560 I mean, I'd say this is just 2325 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,440 like preparatory stuff before 2326 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,640 you even go... I'd say even in 2327 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,050 the States, because they're litigious 2328 01:01:25,050 --> 01:01:27,580 as fuck, so... I'd say this is 2329 01:01:27,580 --> 01:01:30,150 just... At least you can get a 2330 01:01:30,150 --> 01:01:32,660 template and a frame around. I 2331 01:01:32,660 --> 01:01:34,400 doubt this is a legally binding 2332 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,510 document on no law... That no 2333 01:01:36,510 --> 01:01:38,290 law software have provided. 2334 01:01:38,290 --> 01:01:40,000 They would definitely have some 2335 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,600 sort of disclaimer, like by the... 2336 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,190 Not a legal will. I did have 2337 01:01:45,190 --> 01:01:47,300 some sort of small print there. 2338 01:01:47,300 --> 01:01:49,110 By the way, you need to go and 2339 01:01:49,110 --> 01:01:51,400 see a fucking lawyer about this. 2340 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:55,580 Final underscore arrangements 2341 01:01:55,580 --> 01:01:56,940 dot doc x. 2342 01:01:56,940 --> 01:01:59,160 You want to create. Okay, so we're 2343 01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:00,760 working on the will. Each one 2344 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,240 of these is a... 2345 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,380 Well, if I just left a fucking 2346 01:02:04,380 --> 01:02:06,530 scrap of paper behind you with, 2347 01:02:06,530 --> 01:02:08,340 like, I want x and y and z to 2348 01:02:08,340 --> 01:02:10,980 happen. I mean, if you wrote it, 2349 01:02:10,980 --> 01:02:13,440 then that's that, isn't it? Or 2350 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,780 would your forebears or 2351 01:02:15,780 --> 01:02:17,960 whatever you call them, would 2352 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,630 they have to then prove in a 2353 01:02:20,630 --> 01:02:22,800 court that that was from you? 2354 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,610 And it starts you out. To be 2355 01:02:25,610 --> 01:02:27,970 fair, it doesn't take long to 2356 01:02:27,970 --> 01:02:30,720 do a will. Says Parastroika. 2357 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,980 Any decent solicitor can do it 2358 01:02:32,980 --> 01:02:36,340 in 50 minutes. Great Parastroika. 2359 01:02:36,340 --> 01:02:38,240 How you helped us through 2360 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,950 Fallout New Vegas. And now you're 2361 01:02:40,950 --> 01:02:43,110 here to help us with a new open 2362 01:02:43,110 --> 01:02:45,860 world RPG adventure. The RPG 2363 01:02:45,860 --> 01:02:48,620 adventure of death and will 2364 01:02:48,620 --> 01:02:49,500 making. 2365 01:02:49,500 --> 01:02:51,500 Always orients you to the task 2366 01:02:51,500 --> 01:02:53,500 you're about to do. And then 2367 01:02:53,500 --> 01:02:55,420 gets you into the actual meat 2368 01:02:55,420 --> 01:02:56,940 of the issue, which is 2369 01:02:56,940 --> 01:02:59,340 answering the questions. Starts 2370 01:02:59,340 --> 01:03:01,100 out with your name. Some 2371 01:03:01,100 --> 01:03:03,260 questions are optional here. 2372 01:03:03,260 --> 01:03:05,250 And it does work in all states 2373 01:03:05,250 --> 01:03:06,720 except Louisiana. 2374 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,040 So it's smart enough to know. 2375 01:03:08,420 --> 01:03:09,840 Louisiana's got done dirty 2376 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,560 there by NOLO software. Unless 2377 01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,120 they have some sort of fucking 2378 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:14,780 weird laws there where you can't 2379 01:03:14,780 --> 01:03:19,340 do it. Arizona. Alaska. Alabama. 2380 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:20,490 Know that the laws might be 2381 01:03:20,490 --> 01:03:21,890 different in my state compared 2382 01:03:21,890 --> 01:03:23,300 to some other state. There's a 2383 01:03:23,300 --> 01:03:23,970 few things that might be 2384 01:03:23,970 --> 01:03:25,350 different. All right, let's go 2385 01:03:25,350 --> 01:03:26,670 to one you've already started 2386 01:03:26,670 --> 01:03:27,930 so we can get to the more meaty 2387 01:03:27,930 --> 01:03:29,180 parts of the software. 2388 01:03:29,420 --> 01:03:30,760 The meaty will. The meaty will. 2389 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:31,690 The portfolio of Ezra Jones 2390 01:03:31,690 --> 01:03:33,670 here. And he's already 2391 01:03:33,670 --> 01:03:35,640 completed his will. So he 2392 01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,650 enters the will review. He goes 2393 01:03:37,650 --> 01:03:39,350 straight to the review screen 2394 01:03:39,350 --> 01:03:39,920 here. 2395 01:03:39,940 --> 01:03:40,680 So it's easy to go back and 2396 01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:41,660 change things once you've made 2397 01:03:41,660 --> 01:03:42,790 your will. Absolutely. That's 2398 01:03:42,790 --> 01:03:43,650 one of the best things about 2399 01:03:43,650 --> 01:03:44,100 will. 2400 01:03:44,100 --> 01:03:46,060 What about the law of the sea? 2401 01:03:46,060 --> 01:03:48,400 Says HMBS. I don't know what 2402 01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,850 the situation there is. I don't 2403 01:03:50,850 --> 01:03:52,840 really you don't hear much 2404 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,620 about sea burials. 2405 01:03:55,620 --> 01:03:57,360 The only one I know of is Bin 2406 01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,390 Laden. And even that. I mean, 2407 01:03:59,390 --> 01:04:01,100 where's the evidence that that 2408 01:04:01,100 --> 01:04:03,110 even happened? You know, I've 2409 01:04:03,110 --> 01:04:04,690 speculated before in the past 2410 01:04:04,690 --> 01:04:06,490 that I still believe maybe they've 2411 01:04:06,490 --> 01:04:07,240 got him. 2412 01:04:08,140 --> 01:04:09,400 Inside one of those like tanks, 2413 01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,410 like his body is just floating 2414 01:04:11,410 --> 01:04:13,570 in a tank and they've got wires 2415 01:04:13,570 --> 01:04:15,500 in him, you know, keeping him 2416 01:04:15,500 --> 01:04:17,660 perpetually alive for some sort 2417 01:04:17,660 --> 01:04:19,670 of future situation that they 2418 01:04:19,670 --> 01:04:21,780 might want to use him for. 2419 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:23,880 Thank you very much, sir. Tres 2420 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:24,440 of Manion. 2421 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:26,070 You can change your mind and 2422 01:04:26,070 --> 01:04:27,830 change things whenever you want 2423 01:04:27,830 --> 01:04:28,240 to. 2424 01:04:29,380 --> 01:04:29,450 Here's some of the things you 2425 01:04:29,450 --> 01:04:30,550 do in your will. If you go 2426 01:04:30,550 --> 01:04:31,880 through the whole interview, 2427 01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:32,950 you'll cover all of these 2428 01:04:32,950 --> 01:04:33,560 topics. 2429 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,390 And specific requests is one of 2430 01:04:35,390 --> 01:04:36,930 the things people most want to 2431 01:04:36,930 --> 01:04:38,610 do is decide specifically who 2432 01:04:38,610 --> 01:04:39,160 gets. 2433 01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:40,260 Give specific things to 2434 01:04:40,260 --> 01:04:41,220 specific people. 2435 01:04:41,780 --> 01:04:42,820 Specific bequests. 2436 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:44,620 People, certain sentimental 2437 01:04:44,620 --> 01:04:46,660 things sometimes. So in this 2438 01:04:46,660 --> 01:04:49,080 case, Ezra Jones has decided. 2439 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:50,320 Danny is a beneficiary. 2440 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:51,940 Danny is, say, his nephew and 2441 01:04:51,940 --> 01:04:53,180 he wants Danny to get his 2442 01:04:53,180 --> 01:04:55,070 famous baseball card collection, 2443 01:04:55,070 --> 01:04:56,620 which also happens to be quite 2444 01:04:56,620 --> 01:04:58,130 valuable because it has Babe 2445 01:04:58,130 --> 01:05:00,240 Ruth's rookie card or something. 2446 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,530 Babe Ruth's rookie card in that 2447 01:05:02,530 --> 01:05:03,740 collection. 2448 01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:05,000 Alternates for Danny in case 2449 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,380 Danny doesn't survive you. 2450 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:07,360 All right. 2451 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:08,120 So that's. 2452 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,500 In case Danny doesn't survive 2453 01:05:10,500 --> 01:05:11,040 you. 2454 01:05:11,580 --> 01:05:12,020 All right. 2455 01:05:13,100 --> 01:05:14,820 It's like he's taking stews. 2456 01:05:14,900 --> 01:05:15,520 All right. 2457 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:16,280 All right. 2458 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:17,820 Stew's usually the all right 2459 01:05:17,820 --> 01:05:18,240 man. 2460 01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:19,920 But your man here, George or 2461 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,740 whatever his name is, has just 2462 01:05:21,740 --> 01:05:23,000 slipped in a stew. 2463 01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:24,560 Trademark. 2464 01:05:24,700 --> 01:05:25,200 All right. 2465 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:27,360 You get to name alternates for 2466 01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:28,690 Danny in case Danny doesn't 2467 01:05:28,690 --> 01:05:29,300 survive you. 2468 01:05:29,980 --> 01:05:30,260 All right. 2469 01:05:30,620 --> 01:05:31,420 So that's an example of how you 2470 01:05:31,420 --> 01:05:32,560 make specific requests. 2471 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:34,110 Another important thing to do 2472 01:05:34,110 --> 01:05:35,590 in a will is to set up property 2473 01:05:35,590 --> 01:05:36,600 management for any 2474 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,070 beneficiaries who might be 2475 01:05:38,070 --> 01:05:39,480 young when they receive the 2476 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:40,280 property. 2477 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:41,390 So let's say this baseball card 2478 01:05:41,390 --> 01:05:42,920 collection is worth $10,000. 2479 01:05:43,420 --> 01:05:44,800 You don't want Danny squandering 2480 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,040 it for bubble gum. 2481 01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,510 So here we can set up property 2482 01:05:48,510 --> 01:05:50,680 management for Danny Jones and 2483 01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,320 will maker offers you two 2484 01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,080 different property management 2485 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:54,940 options. 2486 01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:56,430 Here's an example where you 2487 01:05:56,430 --> 01:05:57,840 might want to use the online 2488 01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,620 legal help to to have these. 2489 01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:00,280 It's getting boring. 2490 01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:01,330 I'm telling you something about 2491 01:06:01,330 --> 01:06:01,640 this. 2492 01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:02,680 You can't do jumps in. 2493 01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:03,540 You could tell it was getting 2494 01:06:03,540 --> 01:06:03,900 boring. 2495 01:06:03,900 --> 01:06:06,330 Stu just immediately senses the 2496 01:06:06,330 --> 01:06:08,630 lull and just usurps them, cut 2497 01:06:08,630 --> 01:06:11,040 them off and hustles and harries 2498 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:11,740 them. 2499 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,550 Legal help to to have these 2500 01:06:13,550 --> 01:06:14,340 options. 2501 01:06:14,540 --> 01:06:15,630 So it's telling me something 2502 01:06:15,630 --> 01:06:16,860 about this uniform transfers to 2503 01:06:16,860 --> 01:06:18,010 minors act, which I don't know 2504 01:06:18,010 --> 01:06:18,860 anything about. 2505 01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:19,500 What's that? 2506 01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:20,520 And I can look it up. 2507 01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:21,310 And you're being asked to 2508 01:06:21,310 --> 01:06:22,160 choose between the two. 2509 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:23,570 So we give you a choice between 2510 01:06:23,570 --> 01:06:25,050 you can give you an explanation 2511 01:06:25,050 --> 01:06:25,620 of that. 2512 01:06:25,860 --> 01:06:26,670 Plus, we refer you to our 2513 01:06:26,670 --> 01:06:28,210 extensive legal manual, exactly 2514 01:06:28,210 --> 01:06:29,470 what chapter and section where 2515 01:06:29,470 --> 01:06:30,780 you can find information about 2516 01:06:30,780 --> 01:06:31,260 that. 2517 01:06:31,260 --> 01:06:31,540 All right. 2518 01:06:31,580 --> 01:06:32,870 So when I'm all done, I can 2519 01:06:32,870 --> 01:06:34,360 just actually click print, 2520 01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:35,960 basically, and it prints out a 2521 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:37,060 legal real will. 2522 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:37,760 Absolutely. 2523 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:38,840 When you're all done, you click 2524 01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:39,500 display print. 2525 01:06:39,900 --> 01:06:40,850 It takes a few seconds to 2526 01:06:40,850 --> 01:06:42,700 assemble, and here you are. 2527 01:06:42,900 --> 01:06:44,550 And it also produces important 2528 01:06:44,550 --> 01:06:45,940 instructions on how to sign 2529 01:06:45,940 --> 01:06:46,660 your will. 2530 01:06:46,660 --> 01:06:46,840 Yeah. 2531 01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:47,810 What about witnesses and how 2532 01:06:47,810 --> 01:06:48,880 you're supposed to sign it? 2533 01:06:48,900 --> 01:06:49,880 That tells you all of that, too. 2534 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:51,100 The instruction page does that. 2535 01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:52,380 And at the bottom of every page, 2536 01:06:52,380 --> 01:06:53,400 there's a place for you and 2537 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:54,820 your witnesses to initial it. 2538 01:06:54,860 --> 01:06:55,480 Last question. 2539 01:06:55,580 --> 01:06:57,010 Is this really as good, as 2540 01:06:57,010 --> 01:06:58,660 legal, as valid as spending a 2541 01:06:58,660 --> 01:07:00,540 lot of money going to a lawyer? 2542 01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:02,040 For most people, a will is a 2543 01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,500 very simple document. 2544 01:07:03,740 --> 01:07:04,480 And if you can do your taxes on 2545 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:05,610 a computer, you can definitely 2546 01:07:05,610 --> 01:07:06,740 do your will on a computer. 2547 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:07,140 All right. 2548 01:07:07,180 --> 01:07:08,020 Thanks very much, Albin. 2549 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:08,820 All right. 2550 01:07:08,820 --> 01:07:10,720 As we saw earlier at the Willows 2551 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,080 Senior Center in San Jose, 2552 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:13,810 SeniorNet has become one of the 2553 01:07:13,810 --> 01:07:15,430 most popular cyber sites for 2554 01:07:15,430 --> 01:07:16,720 senior citizens. 2555 01:07:17,260 --> 01:07:18,710 Next, we're going to look at 2556 01:07:18,710 --> 01:07:20,310 two retired people whose lives 2557 01:07:20,310 --> 01:07:21,870 have really changed thanks to 2558 01:07:21,870 --> 01:07:22,680 SeniorNet. 2559 01:07:22,860 --> 01:07:24,440 We're getting a VT package. 2560 01:07:25,100 --> 01:07:26,670 I'm not sure whether or not we're 2561 01:07:26,670 --> 01:07:28,390 going back to the Willows 2562 01:07:28,390 --> 01:07:31,120 Center, but it's exciting stuff. 2563 01:07:31,260 --> 01:07:33,160 Dr. Bin Budai is a retired 2564 01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,330 physician who loves to collect 2565 01:07:35,330 --> 01:07:36,080 books. 2566 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:37,720 He is also an accomplished poet 2567 01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:38,440 and writer. 2568 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:39,930 When he retired, he decided to 2569 01:07:39,930 --> 01:07:41,370 learn about computers so as to 2570 01:07:41,370 --> 01:07:43,080 catalog his book collection. 2571 01:07:43,500 --> 01:07:44,450 He has yet to do that, but in 2572 01:07:44,450 --> 01:07:45,980 the meantime, he has become an 2573 01:07:45,980 --> 01:07:47,280 accomplished PC user. 2574 01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,120 He writes and prints his poems 2575 01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:50,620 on the PC and is a member of 2576 01:07:50,620 --> 01:07:52,240 SeniorNet, which he uses to 2577 01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:53,630 keep in touch with the outside 2578 01:07:53,630 --> 01:07:55,400 world from the comfort of... 2579 01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,750 Is his first name Bin or Bin Bu 2580 01:07:58,750 --> 01:08:01,840 and surname Dai or is it Bin 2581 01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,660 Budai, like Buddha? 2582 01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:07,560 You're going choppy. 2583 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:08,480 I'm not sure. 2584 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:09,800 Look, the storm might be 2585 01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:11,330 affecting it, but I think I'm 2586 01:08:11,330 --> 01:08:12,680 fine on this end here. 2587 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,240 Anyways, it might be your end. 2588 01:08:15,340 --> 01:08:15,960 I'm not sure. 2589 01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:17,020 ...of his armchair. 2590 01:08:17,740 --> 01:08:19,040 You know, as we get older, we 2591 01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:20,340 become limited. 2592 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,900 You know, our knees talk back 2593 01:08:22,900 --> 01:08:23,660 to us. 2594 01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:26,740 We lose our hearing. 2595 01:08:27,020 --> 01:08:28,560 Our vision gets dim. 2596 01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,090 The color in our hair goes down 2597 01:08:31,090 --> 01:08:32,260 the drain. 2598 01:08:32,860 --> 01:08:34,100 So it's harder to get out, to 2599 01:08:34,100 --> 01:08:36,070 go to movies, plays, movies, 2600 01:08:36,070 --> 01:08:37,400 things like that. 2601 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,940 But with the computer, telecommunication, 2602 01:08:40,940 --> 01:08:43,100 the world can come to you. 2603 01:08:43,100 --> 01:08:44,620 Dr. Budai has other interests 2604 01:08:44,620 --> 01:08:46,210 besides SeniorNet, and he has 2605 01:08:46,210 --> 01:08:47,490 learned to enjoy the free time 2606 01:08:47,490 --> 01:08:48,880 that retirement offers. 2607 01:08:49,480 --> 01:08:50,810 He logs on to SeniorNet and 2608 01:08:50,810 --> 01:08:52,530 visits conferences, checks for 2609 01:08:52,530 --> 01:08:53,940 messages, and sends poems 2610 01:08:53,940 --> 01:08:55,200 across cyberspace. 2611 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:56,800 But he realizes that it's not 2612 01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,430 always easy to introduce new 2613 01:08:58,430 --> 01:09:00,460 technology to retired seniors. 2614 01:09:00,980 --> 01:09:03,050 People who, during their 2615 01:09:03,050 --> 01:09:06,220 lifetime, have been able to see 2616 01:09:06,220 --> 01:09:09,040 new things and accept it will 2617 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,500 be able to accept the computer. 2618 01:09:12,940 --> 01:09:15,010 People who have been very constricted 2619 01:09:15,010 --> 01:09:16,450 in their life will never be 2620 01:09:16,450 --> 01:09:18,060 able to take the computer. 2621 01:09:18,580 --> 01:09:19,850 Before they retired, Jenny and 2622 01:09:19,850 --> 01:09:21,040 Hans Colmar worked as 2623 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,700 theatrical press agents. 2624 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:23,920 They have boxes filled with 2625 01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:25,340 signed photos of the best-known 2626 01:09:25,340 --> 01:09:26,730 entertainers of the golden age 2627 01:09:26,730 --> 01:09:27,600 of Hollywood. 2628 01:09:28,220 --> 01:09:29,420 Their press releases were pasted 2629 01:09:29,420 --> 01:09:31,100 up from typed and retyped pages 2630 01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:32,380 without the help of word 2631 01:09:32,380 --> 01:09:33,340 processing. 2632 01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:35,030 When Jenny Colmar was a 2633 01:09:35,030 --> 01:09:36,580 teenager, she began a list of 2634 01:09:36,580 --> 01:09:38,460 things she wanted to accomplish, 2635 01:09:38,460 --> 01:09:39,890 and learning a PC became one of 2636 01:09:39,890 --> 01:09:40,480 them. 2637 01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:41,660 Wait till you see her typing 2638 01:09:41,660 --> 01:09:43,020 speed here. It looks fucking 2639 01:09:43,020 --> 01:09:43,660 electric. 2640 01:09:44,300 --> 01:09:45,760 Hunter Hearst Helmsley. Thank 2641 01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,260 you very much there. 2642 01:09:47,980 --> 01:09:48,960 I was always too busy to learn 2643 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,780 to compute, and it was kind of 2644 01:09:50,780 --> 01:09:52,350 on the agenda of things to do 2645 01:09:52,350 --> 01:09:53,420 before I die. 2646 01:09:53,940 --> 01:09:54,920 You know, I've seen the strip 2647 01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:55,380 show. 2648 01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:58,260 Huh? What kind of show is that? 2649 01:09:58,260 --> 01:10:00,320 Like, one on the Las Vegas 2650 01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:01,180 strip? 2651 01:10:01,780 --> 01:10:03,410 That was on my list. I threw 2652 01:10:03,410 --> 01:10:04,680 away learning to fly. 2653 01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:06,180 I decided I didn't really have 2654 01:10:06,180 --> 01:10:07,680 to do that before I died, but I 2655 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:08,680 had a whole list. 2656 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:10,460 I don't think I'd be arse going 2657 01:10:10,460 --> 01:10:12,350 to see strippers if I'd reached 2658 01:10:12,350 --> 01:10:13,740 that stage of life. 2659 01:10:14,060 --> 01:10:15,560 You know, and I'm not even arse 2660 01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,520 now, but I mean, once it got to, 2661 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,200 like, the final endgame, 2662 01:10:19,260 --> 01:10:20,610 where I was thinking, you know, 2663 01:10:20,610 --> 01:10:21,560 what do I need to do here 2664 01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:22,940 before I fucking check out? 2665 01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,080 I'm not sure. Maybe you change. 2666 01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,100 Maybe your preferences change, 2667 01:10:29,100 --> 01:10:31,440 and things just become... 2668 01:10:31,440 --> 01:10:32,800 A little bit more appealing. 2669 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:34,550 The age of 18, they kept 2670 01:10:34,550 --> 01:10:36,080 growing as I grew older, and 2671 01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,070 the last 10 years or so, it was 2672 01:10:38,070 --> 01:10:39,940 learn how to use a computer. 2673 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:41,470 It took Jenny six months to get 2674 01:10:41,470 --> 01:10:43,200 online, but once she understood 2675 01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:44,680 the basics of computer input 2676 01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:45,500 and output, 2677 01:10:45,500 --> 01:10:47,020 she was hooked, and is now a 2678 01:10:47,020 --> 01:10:48,760 regular user of SeniorNet. 2679 01:10:49,140 --> 01:10:50,390 But Jenny soon learned that it 2680 01:10:50,390 --> 01:10:51,880 was just as easy to become an 2681 01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:52,920 online addict. 2682 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,390 It really is a siren song. You 2683 01:10:55,390 --> 01:10:57,130 can be lured into all this to 2684 01:10:57,130 --> 01:10:58,680 the exclusion of all else, 2685 01:10:58,820 --> 01:11:00,160 and I think that's one of the 2686 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:01,880 dangers. I'm always preaching 2687 01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,120 to these people online, 2688 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,720 not to get a life, but to honor 2689 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,540 the life you have already and 2690 01:11:08,540 --> 01:11:10,960 add to it with being online. 2691 01:11:11,340 --> 01:11:12,720 For the Computer Chronicles, I'm 2692 01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:13,600 Giles Bateman. 2693 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:16,670 Not even looking at the fucking 2694 01:11:16,670 --> 01:11:19,340 thing. Just going with the flow. 2695 01:11:27,020 --> 01:11:27,540 Fuck! 2696 01:11:30,060 --> 01:11:31,400 Are those boots? 2697 01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,100 Like, white boots. 2698 01:11:35,440 --> 01:11:36,830 They're actually shoes. It's 2699 01:11:36,830 --> 01:11:38,020 just the way that's pointed. 2700 01:11:38,180 --> 01:11:39,880 It looked kind of stiletto-esque, 2701 01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:41,880 or shoes, like lady shoe pointy. 2702 01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,750 There's something special about 2703 01:11:45,750 --> 01:11:49,070 a three- or four-generation 2704 01:11:49,070 --> 01:11:50,360 family. 2705 01:11:50,480 --> 01:11:51,750 You have a sense of continuity 2706 01:11:51,750 --> 01:11:52,820 and family history and 2707 01:11:52,820 --> 01:11:53,540 tradition. 2708 01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:55,470 And one way to really focus on 2709 01:11:55,470 --> 01:11:57,140 your family roots is with a 2710 01:11:57,140 --> 01:11:58,530 program like Family Tree Maker 2711 01:11:58,530 --> 01:11:59,500 from Banner Blue, 2712 01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:00,640 and Claire is here to show that 2713 01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:01,000 to us. 2714 01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:02,130 All right, we've got Family 2715 01:12:02,130 --> 01:12:03,080 Tree Maker running. 2716 01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:04,540 Show me how I would start to 2717 01:12:04,540 --> 01:12:05,900 build a family tree. 2718 01:12:05,900 --> 01:12:06,960 You've got somebody up here 2719 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,110 named Ken right now, and he's 2720 01:12:08,110 --> 01:12:09,320 the person who's starting? 2721 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,040 Right. When you make your 2722 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:12,330 family tree, you're going to go 2723 01:12:12,330 --> 01:12:13,600 in and put information on your 2724 01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:14,280 relatives. 2725 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:16,460 Their name, when they were born, 2726 01:12:16,460 --> 01:12:18,560 where they were born, if they've 2727 01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,380 died, when, and where. 2728 01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:21,550 So you start with text and 2729 01:12:21,550 --> 01:12:23,060 stuff you know, basically. 2730 01:12:23,300 --> 01:12:23,360 Right. 2731 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,550 That's an interesting audio cut. 2732 01:12:25,550 --> 01:12:26,700 I was in an edit. 2733 01:12:26,940 --> 01:12:28,060 If they've died, when, and 2734 01:12:28,060 --> 01:12:28,540 where. 2735 01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:29,960 So you start with text. 2736 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:31,400 Because I don't think he says 2737 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:32,200 that, look. 2738 01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:32,960 It's just an edit. 2739 01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:33,320 Where they were born. 2740 01:12:33,540 --> 01:12:34,900 He doesn't say, so you start 2741 01:12:34,900 --> 01:12:36,380 with, he starts to speak. 2742 01:12:36,540 --> 01:12:37,130 He seems to know his way around 2743 01:12:37,130 --> 01:12:37,520 the block. 2744 01:12:38,220 --> 01:12:38,860 How about you? 2745 01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:39,560 How about you? 2746 01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:41,030 Thank you very much there, 2747 01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:42,240 Blackboard Jungle. 2748 01:12:42,440 --> 01:12:43,260 He seems to know his way. 2749 01:12:43,700 --> 01:12:45,060 The new Indiana Jones game is 2750 01:12:45,060 --> 01:12:45,620 good. 2751 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,400 You say, I might try that out. 2752 01:12:47,480 --> 01:12:49,300 We all, everybody loves Indiana 2753 01:12:49,300 --> 01:12:50,640 Jones, don't they? 2754 01:12:51,060 --> 01:12:51,880 Harrison Ford. 2755 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:54,220 And all the other characters 2756 01:12:54,220 --> 01:12:56,200 from that franchise. 2757 01:12:57,700 --> 01:12:59,070 Just Harrison Ford is on a 2758 01:12:59,070 --> 01:12:59,960 short round. 2759 01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:01,440 Willie. 2760 01:13:01,860 --> 01:13:03,020 Who's actually a woman. 2761 01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:08,840 Sean Connery, his dad. 2762 01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:11,880 The Great Callie, the fella in 2763 01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,100 the Temple of Doom. 2764 01:13:14,420 --> 01:13:16,440 Who's like, he'd pull out your 2765 01:13:16,440 --> 01:13:17,180 heart. 2766 01:13:18,060 --> 01:13:19,120 Can't remember his name. 2767 01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:21,840 On your relatives. 2768 01:13:22,460 --> 01:13:23,720 Their name, when they were born, 2769 01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:25,060 where they were born. 2770 01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:26,780 But watch this little edit here. 2771 01:13:27,340 --> 01:13:28,800 Stu starts to speak. 2772 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:33,460 But they've cut in another take. 2773 01:13:33,540 --> 01:13:34,670 Or maybe something from a few 2774 01:13:34,670 --> 01:13:35,800 moments down the line. 2775 01:13:37,140 --> 01:13:39,300 And who could forget? 2776 01:13:39,900 --> 01:13:40,740 Pancat Palace. 2777 01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:41,740 Indeed, Tupo. 2778 01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:42,700 Pancat Palace. 2779 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:43,740 Pancat Palace. 2780 01:13:44,060 --> 01:13:44,500 Pancat. 2781 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:45,000 Pancat. 2782 01:13:45,100 --> 01:13:45,820 Pancat Palace. 2783 01:13:46,180 --> 01:13:47,550 Pancat Palace from Indiana 2784 01:13:47,550 --> 01:13:48,200 Jones. 2785 01:13:48,540 --> 01:13:49,600 Pancat Palace from Indiana 2786 01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:50,120 Jones. 2787 01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:51,670 If I have that sound, I will 2788 01:13:51,670 --> 01:13:52,280 play it. 2789 01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:53,260 I just don't have it with me 2790 01:13:53,260 --> 01:13:53,560 now. 2791 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:54,860 When, when, and where. 2792 01:13:54,860 --> 01:13:56,210 So you start with text and 2793 01:13:56,210 --> 01:13:57,140 stuff you know, 2794 01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:57,540 basically. 2795 01:13:57,540 --> 01:13:57,860 Right. 2796 01:13:57,860 --> 01:13:58,920 So what are we looking at? 2797 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:00,240 So we're looking at here. 2798 01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:01,660 This is one generation. 2799 01:14:01,660 --> 01:14:02,860 The husband and wife and their 2800 01:14:02,860 --> 01:14:03,320 daughter. 2801 01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:04,730 And if you want to look at, for 2802 01:14:04,730 --> 01:14:06,330 instance, his parents, we just 2803 01:14:06,330 --> 01:14:07,660 click on the side tabs. 2804 01:14:07,660 --> 01:14:08,940 And go and here's all the 2805 01:14:08,940 --> 01:14:10,660 information on his parents. 2806 01:14:10,660 --> 01:14:12,160 And then these are his siblings 2807 01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:13,660 down here and the children. 2808 01:14:13,660 --> 01:14:14,660 And then these are the children. 2809 01:14:14,660 --> 01:14:16,270 So each of those tabs we would 2810 01:14:16,270 --> 01:14:17,950 create again to represent me 2811 01:14:17,950 --> 01:14:19,500 and my wife and my kids and my 2812 01:14:19,500 --> 01:14:20,120 brothers and so on. 2813 01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,290 Exactly. And then in addition 2814 01:14:22,290 --> 01:14:23,830 to just the names and dates, 2815 01:14:23,830 --> 01:14:25,490 you can also put in facts like 2816 01:14:25,490 --> 01:14:27,660 education or occupation. Address 2817 01:14:27,660 --> 01:14:29,660 information if you want to make 2818 01:14:29,660 --> 01:14:31,500 labels for holiday cards. 2819 01:14:31,500 --> 01:14:33,790 Medical information. So you can 2820 01:14:33,790 --> 01:14:35,640 put all kinds of tidbits about 2821 01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,000 a person's life. 2822 01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,420 All right. Now besides the text, 2823 01:14:38,420 --> 01:14:39,720 you can actually put multimedia 2824 01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:40,860 elements in there too, like 2825 01:14:40,860 --> 01:14:42,140 pictures and even video clips, 2826 01:14:42,140 --> 01:14:43,850 right? Right. This is one of 2827 01:14:43,850 --> 01:14:45,260 the exciting features, the 2828 01:14:45,260 --> 01:14:46,960 multimedia scrapbook. Because 2829 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,210 there's a lot more to your 2830 01:14:48,210 --> 01:14:49,770 history than just the names and 2831 01:14:49,770 --> 01:14:50,340 dates. 2832 01:14:50,340 --> 01:14:52,540 So I could take a camcorder 2833 01:14:52,540 --> 01:14:54,940 clip if I have a video capture 2834 01:14:54,940 --> 01:14:57,340 board in my PC and just plug it 2835 01:14:57,340 --> 01:14:59,800 in and transfer that video to 2836 01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,240 my heart drive and make it part 2837 01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,690 of this file. Right. Exactly. 2838 01:15:05,690 --> 01:15:07,970 That is really cool. Or the 2839 01:15:07,970 --> 01:15:09,210 others are still photos or are 2840 01:15:09,210 --> 01:15:10,550 they video clips also? These 2841 01:15:10,550 --> 01:15:11,850 others are photos. And you can 2842 01:15:11,850 --> 01:15:13,170 put photos in using either a 2843 01:15:13,170 --> 01:15:14,480 photo CD or you can scan them 2844 01:15:14,480 --> 01:15:15,730 and put them in as a graphic 2845 01:15:15,730 --> 01:15:17,600 file. All right. Claire, one of 2846 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:18,870 the amazing things about the 2847 01:15:18,870 --> 01:15:20,320 software is you can actually go 2848 01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,150 go back and find ancestors you 2849 01:15:22,150 --> 01:15:24,130 may not know even existed. And 2850 01:15:24,130 --> 01:15:25,770 we sort of set that up to do it 2851 01:15:25,770 --> 01:15:27,680 in my case. How are you going 2852 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,440 to find that with just software 2853 01:15:29,440 --> 01:15:31,290 on a fucking CD-ROM? Like you'd 2854 01:15:31,290 --> 01:15:32,980 need the power of the internet 2855 01:15:32,980 --> 01:15:34,590 and like all the new DNA stuff 2856 01:15:34,590 --> 01:15:36,400 that people sign up to. How are 2857 01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,100 you going to find a distant 2858 01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:39,020 relative? 2859 01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:40,750 You may not know even existed. 2860 01:15:40,750 --> 01:15:42,170 And we sort of set that up to 2861 01:15:42,170 --> 01:15:43,910 do it in my case, for example. 2862 01:15:43,910 --> 01:15:45,310 So show me how you would do 2863 01:15:45,310 --> 01:15:46,550 that. I want to go find 2864 01:15:46,550 --> 01:15:48,380 information about my father, my 2865 01:15:48,380 --> 01:15:49,800 grandfather, etc. 2866 01:15:50,300 --> 01:15:51,890 Right. What we do, this is 2867 01:15:51,890 --> 01:15:53,810 called the Family Finder Index. 2868 01:15:53,810 --> 01:15:55,710 It's an index of 115 million 2869 01:15:55,710 --> 01:15:57,460 individuals and it references 2870 01:15:57,460 --> 01:15:59,350 everything from social security 2871 01:15:59,350 --> 01:16:00,780 records to death to land 2872 01:16:00,780 --> 01:16:02,890 records. So here we've entered 2873 01:16:02,890 --> 01:16:04,690 in the name Shafay and we came 2874 01:16:04,690 --> 01:16:06,590 up with David and Paul. Which 2875 01:16:06,590 --> 01:16:07,780 is my father and grandfather. 2876 01:16:07,780 --> 01:16:08,400 That is your father and 2877 01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:08,920 grandfather. 2878 01:16:09,300 --> 01:16:11,800 Please insert archive number 2879 01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:15,400 110 volume 1 or archive 111 2880 01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,180 into your CD-ROM. 2881 01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:18,430 Okay, so what do we do after we 2882 01:16:18,430 --> 01:16:19,140 find the name? 2883 01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:20,450 So once you find the names, 2884 01:16:20,450 --> 01:16:21,690 then you can get the CD that 2885 01:16:21,690 --> 01:16:23,360 contains the right records. 2886 01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:24,120 It's the index. 2887 01:16:24,300 --> 01:16:25,520 Where is she pulling these out 2888 01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:25,800 of? 2889 01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,040 Is that a laptop that opens up? 2890 01:16:29,060 --> 01:16:30,630 Oh, that's where you have to 2891 01:16:30,630 --> 01:16:31,140 hand. 2892 01:16:31,500 --> 01:16:32,820 There's no like a disc tray 2893 01:16:32,820 --> 01:16:34,060 that comes out. 2894 01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:35,700 You have to open up the fucking 2895 01:16:35,700 --> 01:16:37,360 keyboard and then place the CD 2896 01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,360 in like it was a PlayStation 1. 2897 01:16:40,820 --> 01:16:41,540 I think. 2898 01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:42,720 I think that's what's happened. 2899 01:16:43,820 --> 01:16:45,180 It's my father and grandfather. 2900 01:16:45,180 --> 01:16:45,810 It's your father and 2901 01:16:45,810 --> 01:16:46,380 grandfather. 2902 01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:48,290 Okay, so what do we do after we 2903 01:16:48,290 --> 01:16:49,060 find the names? 2904 01:16:49,140 --> 01:16:50,370 So once you find the names, 2905 01:16:50,370 --> 01:16:51,620 then you can get the CD that 2906 01:16:51,620 --> 01:16:53,240 contains the right records. 2907 01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:54,680 So it's the index that's on 2908 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:56,160 that CD and then I pull. 2909 01:16:56,500 --> 01:16:57,310 Now where are these records 2910 01:16:57,310 --> 01:16:58,020 coming from? 2911 01:16:58,420 --> 01:16:59,540 These records, this particular 2912 01:16:59,540 --> 01:17:00,890 one we're looking at is social 2913 01:17:00,890 --> 01:17:02,640 security death benefits records. 2914 01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:04,070 We also have census records 2915 01:17:04,070 --> 01:17:05,500 from the 1800s. 2916 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:07,010 We have land records, marriage 2917 01:17:07,010 --> 01:17:07,620 records. 2918 01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:09,480 So you use the index to tell 2919 01:17:09,480 --> 01:17:11,030 you which records have 2920 01:17:11,030 --> 01:17:12,260 information. 2921 01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:13,410 I can hear a noise going on in 2922 01:17:13,410 --> 01:17:14,260 the background. 2923 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,070 It might be the noise of the 2924 01:17:16,070 --> 01:17:17,990 hardware, but it sounds like 2925 01:17:17,990 --> 01:17:18,840 someone. 2926 01:17:20,020 --> 01:17:21,400 Because we we heard the grainy 2927 01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,160 audio there of the footage of 2928 01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:24,960 the baby. 2929 01:17:25,060 --> 01:17:26,060 It sounds this one sounds like 2930 01:17:26,060 --> 01:17:26,760 someone going. 2931 01:17:31,100 --> 01:17:31,760 Listen there. 2932 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:32,740 I don't know if you can hear it. 2933 01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:34,960 So you use the index to tell 2934 01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,280 you which records have. 2935 01:17:41,700 --> 01:17:43,260 Unless they left a fucking 2936 01:17:43,260 --> 01:17:45,390 video playing of someone's 2937 01:17:45,390 --> 01:17:47,020 elderly relative or something. 2938 01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:48,100 That's all they could. 2939 01:17:48,540 --> 01:17:49,310 That's the only noise they 2940 01:17:49,310 --> 01:17:50,020 could make. 2941 01:17:50,140 --> 01:17:50,800 Marriage records. 2942 01:17:51,480 --> 01:17:52,740 So you use the index to tell 2943 01:17:52,740 --> 01:17:54,250 you which records have 2944 01:17:54,250 --> 01:17:56,560 information on your family. 2945 01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:58,220 And then here we go. 2946 01:17:58,540 --> 01:17:59,280 David Sheffey. 2947 01:18:00,460 --> 01:18:02,020 And you actually have dates of 2948 01:18:02,020 --> 01:18:02,380 birth. 2949 01:18:02,380 --> 01:18:04,460 There you have a relative of 2950 01:18:04,460 --> 01:18:06,780 Stuart from 1878. 2951 01:18:07,780 --> 01:18:08,600 Imagine that. 2952 01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:11,380 A Sheffey from back then. 2953 01:18:11,780 --> 01:18:13,050 Wearing all the old kind of 2954 01:18:13,050 --> 01:18:13,620 gear. 2955 01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:15,980 And going, all right. 2956 01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:17,640 Okay. 2957 01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,000 Like all black top hat. 2958 01:18:20,980 --> 01:18:22,240 In California maybe. 2959 01:18:22,340 --> 01:18:23,160 I'm not sure what they would 2960 01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:24,000 have worn back then. 2961 01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:24,320 Death. 2962 01:18:24,440 --> 01:18:25,300 Social security numbers. 2963 01:18:25,780 --> 01:18:26,760 So you can really go back and 2964 01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:27,740 find people who didn't even 2965 01:18:27,740 --> 01:18:28,690 know existed and find more 2966 01:18:28,690 --> 01:18:29,820 information about them. 2967 01:18:29,940 --> 01:18:30,740 Oh, that is really cool. 2968 01:18:30,820 --> 01:18:30,960 Okay. 2969 01:18:31,020 --> 01:18:31,740 Family Tree Maker. 2970 01:18:32,220 --> 01:18:32,600 All right. 2971 01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:33,720 Now we've seen what you can do 2972 01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:34,820 with Family Tree Maker. 2973 01:18:35,020 --> 01:18:35,420 Liquid. 2974 01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:35,900 Right. 2975 01:18:36,260 --> 01:18:37,770 The exit, the dismount, and 2976 01:18:37,770 --> 01:18:39,560 then the fucking move on. 2977 01:18:40,100 --> 01:18:40,480 All right. 2978 01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:41,880 Very cool. 2979 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:42,300 All right. 2980 01:18:42,620 --> 01:18:43,200 That is really cool. 2981 01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:43,420 Okay. 2982 01:18:43,480 --> 01:18:44,180 Family Tree Maker. 2983 01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:45,060 All right. 2984 01:18:45,060 --> 01:18:46,260 Now we've seen what you can do 2985 01:18:46,260 --> 01:18:47,380 with Family Tree Maker. 2986 01:18:47,500 --> 01:18:48,530 Let's go over now and visit 2987 01:18:48,530 --> 01:18:49,240 Jane Cronin. 2988 01:18:49,540 --> 01:18:50,590 And we're going to see what she 2989 01:18:50,590 --> 01:18:51,800 did with the software. 2990 01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:53,130 Jane, you're from San Jose here 2991 01:18:53,130 --> 01:18:53,900 in California. 2992 01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,440 Do you know the way to San Jose? 2993 01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:58,140 Yes, I did. 2994 01:18:58,340 --> 01:18:58,620 Okay. 2995 01:18:58,740 --> 01:19:00,260 So now who's Michael? 2996 01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:01,520 That's my husband. 2997 01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:02,120 Uh-huh. 2998 01:19:02,220 --> 01:19:02,780 So show us what you did here. 2999 01:19:02,780 --> 01:19:03,500 I need to go to Jax. 3000 01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:04,530 I'll leave you with this for a 3001 01:19:04,530 --> 01:19:04,980 moment. 3002 01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:06,240 First, I'll show you the 3003 01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:07,950 ancestral chart, the ancestral 3004 01:19:07,950 --> 01:19:08,360 tree. 3005 01:19:09,060 --> 01:19:10,560 And this is me and my parents 3006 01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:12,540 and my grandparents. 3007 01:19:12,940 --> 01:19:14,000 And you scanned in those photos 3008 01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:14,760 that you had. 3009 01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,500 And then was able to print out 3010 01:19:17,500 --> 01:19:19,940 this lovely printout. 3011 01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:20,320 Oh, that is so nice. 3012 01:19:20,380 --> 01:19:21,620 So you can actually print this 3013 01:19:21,620 --> 01:19:22,920 stuff out just like that and 3014 01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:24,380 hand this out to your relatives 3015 01:19:24,380 --> 01:19:25,390 or show it to other people or 3016 01:19:25,390 --> 01:19:25,780 something. 3017 01:19:26,460 --> 01:19:26,700 Okay. 3018 01:19:26,780 --> 01:19:28,400 Now you can also do something 3019 01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:29,820 called the Descendant Chart, 3020 01:19:29,820 --> 01:19:31,130 which is really to see the 3021 01:19:31,130 --> 01:19:31,960 bigger family 3022 01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:32,640 tree, I guess. 3023 01:19:32,740 --> 01:19:33,000 The relationship. 3024 01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:34,540 Oh, it's a ship. 3025 01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:35,160 The family members. 3026 01:19:35,940 --> 01:19:37,870 And here is the Descendant 3027 01:19:37,870 --> 01:19:38,900 Chart. 3028 01:19:38,900 --> 01:19:40,270 You zoom out so we can kind of 3029 01:19:40,270 --> 01:19:41,760 see the whole tree there. 3030 01:19:41,900 --> 01:19:42,280 Okay. 3031 01:19:42,620 --> 01:19:44,020 So these are your father's 3032 01:19:44,020 --> 01:19:45,200 descendants, huh? 3033 01:19:45,460 --> 01:19:45,780 Yes. 3034 01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:46,560 Wow. 3035 01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:47,560 And this is my family. 3036 01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:48,620 Wow, look at that. 3037 01:19:48,620 --> 01:19:49,060 There we go. 3038 01:19:49,060 --> 01:19:50,310 And then we can zoom in so that 3039 01:19:50,310 --> 01:19:51,840 we can read them more clearly. 3040 01:19:52,740 --> 01:19:52,980 All right. 3041 01:19:53,020 --> 01:19:53,990 Now there's another neat 3042 01:19:53,990 --> 01:19:55,210 feature in here called Kinship 3043 01:19:55,210 --> 01:19:56,250 in which you can really put 3044 01:19:56,250 --> 01:19:56,780 together 3045 01:19:56,780 --> 01:19:58,420 a list of all the relatives you 3046 01:19:58,420 --> 01:19:58,840 have. 3047 01:19:58,920 --> 01:19:59,240 Is that it? 3048 01:19:59,240 --> 01:19:59,260 Right. 3049 01:19:59,460 --> 01:20:00,080 Show me that one. 3050 01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:00,940 This is the Kinship Chart. 3051 01:20:01,860 --> 01:20:03,820 A lovely little kinship chart. 3052 01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:05,460 Let's bring it up a little more. 3053 01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:06,240 Okay. 3054 01:20:06,380 --> 01:20:08,510 And so this is every relative 3055 01:20:08,510 --> 01:20:11,200 you can think of in your family. 3056 01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:12,060 Going way back. 3057 01:20:12,420 --> 01:20:12,700 Wow. 3058 01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:14,450 Seven generations on one side 3059 01:20:14,450 --> 01:20:15,990 and six generations on the 3060 01:20:15,990 --> 01:20:16,840 other side. 3061 01:20:17,540 --> 01:20:18,180 And this shows you the 3062 01:20:18,180 --> 01:20:19,360 relationship. 3063 01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:22,180 Brown William Wallace, great-grandfather 3064 01:20:22,180 --> 01:20:23,140 of the wife. 3065 01:20:23,140 --> 01:20:23,460 Wow. 3066 01:20:23,660 --> 01:20:26,360 William Wallace from Mel Gibson's 3067 01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,360 Brave Lad, the great-grandfather 3068 01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:30,580 of the wife. 3069 01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:33,080 Great-grandfather of the wife. 3070 01:20:33,740 --> 01:20:34,940 Fucking William Wallace, hey. 3071 01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:37,280 William Wallace Brown. 3072 01:20:38,480 --> 01:20:39,630 How long did it take you to do 3073 01:20:39,630 --> 01:20:40,180 all this? 3074 01:20:40,580 --> 01:20:43,080 I've been doing genealogy for 3075 01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:44,320 about a year. 3076 01:20:44,500 --> 01:20:44,930 How long did it take you to do 3077 01:20:44,930 --> 01:20:45,280 all this? 3078 01:20:46,060 --> 01:20:46,460 Bralsig. 3079 01:20:46,820 --> 01:20:47,960 Yeah, some interesting names. 3080 01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:48,380 All right. 3081 01:20:49,020 --> 01:20:50,820 Braden Bralsig is after you. 3082 01:20:52,740 --> 01:20:55,140 How about Jason Frederick Brandt? 3083 01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:00,900 Jana Harnett Cezanne? 3084 01:21:01,820 --> 01:21:02,640 Audrey Cook? 3085 01:21:04,780 --> 01:21:07,410 I've been doing genealogy for 3086 01:21:07,410 --> 01:21:08,640 about a year. 3087 01:21:08,820 --> 01:21:09,100 Wow. 3088 01:21:09,300 --> 01:21:10,790 And I've been taking the class 3089 01:21:10,790 --> 01:21:12,240 at the Willow Center. 3090 01:21:12,980 --> 01:21:14,400 And so I've been collecting. 3091 01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:14,820 I bet you've had great fun 3092 01:21:14,820 --> 01:21:15,080 doing this. 3093 01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:15,900 Oh, it's been wonderful. 3094 01:21:15,900 --> 01:21:16,020 I bet you have great fun. 3095 01:21:16,020 --> 01:21:17,410 I've been collecting all my 3096 01:21:17,410 --> 01:21:18,980 little notes here and there and 3097 01:21:18,980 --> 01:21:20,060 the important papers that I 3098 01:21:20,060 --> 01:21:20,280 have 3099 01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:21,120 at home and putting the 3100 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:22,040 information in here. 3101 01:21:22,540 --> 01:21:23,280 And I've gone to several 3102 01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:24,520 different libraries. 3103 01:21:24,660 --> 01:21:24,820 That's great. 3104 01:21:25,020 --> 01:21:25,420 All right. 3105 01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:26,630 So it's Family Tree Maker and 3106 01:21:26,630 --> 01:21:28,160 it's from Banner Blue Software. 3107 01:21:28,700 --> 01:21:30,300 That was a fast one, wasn't it? 3108 01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:32,350 I only nipped out for a second 3109 01:21:32,350 --> 01:21:34,320 back and then he's done. 3110 01:21:34,700 --> 01:21:36,050 There wasn't much to see there, 3111 01:21:36,050 --> 01:21:36,620 I imagine. 3112 01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:38,980 Just text, just like a text 3113 01:21:38,980 --> 01:21:39,940 document. 3114 01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:40,240 Look. 3115 01:21:40,700 --> 01:21:41,020 Oh, look. 3116 01:21:41,060 --> 01:21:42,080 There's a... 3117 01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:42,580 I see. 3118 01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:44,160 Yeah. 3119 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:46,240 In and out. 3120 01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:47,280 There's nothing really much. 3121 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:48,500 On one side and 6th Gen. 3122 01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:49,810 Brown William doing genius at 3123 01:21:49,810 --> 01:21:50,820 the Willow Center. 3124 01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:52,320 And there and different 3125 01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:53,260 libraries. 3126 01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:53,540 That's great. 3127 01:21:53,780 --> 01:21:54,160 All right. 3128 01:21:54,180 --> 01:21:55,360 So it's Family Tree Maker and 3129 01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:56,840 it's from Banner Blue Software. 3130 01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:57,620 All right. 3131 01:21:57,620 --> 01:21:59,130 But as we've seen before, the 3132 01:21:59,130 --> 01:22:00,270 internet and the online 3133 01:22:00,270 --> 01:22:01,630 services can provide a real 3134 01:22:01,630 --> 01:22:03,190 sense of community and 3135 01:22:03,190 --> 01:22:04,520 friendship for many senior 3136 01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,380 citizens who are otherwise all 3137 01:22:06,380 --> 01:22:06,960 alone. 3138 01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:08,570 In this week's Net News, we'll 3139 01:22:08,570 --> 01:22:10,110 focus on cyber sites that are 3140 01:22:10,110 --> 01:22:11,860 geared to the special needs of 3141 01:22:11,860 --> 01:22:12,880 older Americans. 3142 01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:14,460 Thanks, Stuart. 3143 01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:15,230 I know we're hearing a lot 3144 01:22:15,230 --> 01:22:16,160 about SeniorNet today. 3145 01:22:16,580 --> 01:22:17,540 Giles Bateman. 3146 01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:19,920 A real go-getter. 3147 01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:22,530 And look at these sensational 3148 01:22:22,530 --> 01:22:25,480 Computer Chronicles posters. 3149 01:22:26,480 --> 01:22:27,610 Love to get my hands on a few 3150 01:22:27,610 --> 01:22:30,420 of those and decorate the gaff. 3151 01:22:32,500 --> 01:22:34,420 Based on one of the exit 3152 01:22:34,420 --> 01:22:37,340 graphics animations, I think, 3153 01:22:37,340 --> 01:22:39,290 where the He-Man kind of 3154 01:22:39,290 --> 01:22:42,500 character bursts through the PC. 3155 01:22:45,340 --> 01:22:46,340 Of older Americans. 3156 01:22:47,340 --> 01:22:47,940 Thanks, Stuart. 3157 01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:48,850 I know we're hearing a lot 3158 01:22:48,850 --> 01:22:49,930 about SeniorNet today, but I 3159 01:22:49,930 --> 01:22:50,940 think it's important to see 3160 01:22:50,940 --> 01:22:52,000 their website because it's a 3161 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:53,220 very well-organized collection 3162 01:22:53,220 --> 01:22:54,100 of information. 3163 01:22:54,480 --> 01:22:55,740 And they've got some nice... 3164 01:22:55,740 --> 01:22:57,510 What a beautiful, lovely, 3165 01:22:57,510 --> 01:22:58,740 lovely website. 3166 01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,480 An antique violin. 3167 01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:05,080 A pillar. 3168 01:23:08,480 --> 01:23:08,960 Grandfather. 3169 01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:12,100 An old text. 3170 01:23:12,740 --> 01:23:13,840 Medieval text. 3171 01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:17,700 And then the next generation. 3172 01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:19,500 Star Trek. 3173 01:23:19,980 --> 01:23:21,600 The next generation. 3174 01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:23,940 Graphics, as you can see. 3175 01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:25,190 As I scroll down the page, you 3176 01:23:25,190 --> 01:23:26,240 see we can learn about the 3177 01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:27,000 organization. 3178 01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:28,350 We can learn about some of the 3179 01:23:28,350 --> 01:23:29,720 classes that they teach. 3180 01:23:29,980 --> 01:23:30,860 I'm going to go ahead and 3181 01:23:30,860 --> 01:23:31,740 scroll all the way to the 3182 01:23:31,740 --> 01:23:32,890 bottom of the page, and you'll 3183 01:23:32,890 --> 01:23:33,740 see they have Internet 3184 01:23:33,740 --> 01:23:34,700 resources in aging. 3185 01:23:34,820 --> 01:23:36,390 Now, this is a collection of 3186 01:23:36,390 --> 01:23:38,120 links to other sites on the web 3187 01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:39,820 that might be of interest. 3188 01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:41,110 Now, if you're on an online 3189 01:23:41,110 --> 01:23:42,700 service, you probably only use 3190 01:23:42,700 --> 01:23:43,160 email. 3191 01:23:43,260 --> 01:23:44,350 I know that's what I spend most 3192 01:23:44,350 --> 01:23:45,200 of my time doing. 3193 01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:46,150 But there is a wealth of 3194 01:23:46,150 --> 01:23:47,450 information buried under some 3195 01:23:47,450 --> 01:23:48,260 of these things. 3196 01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:49,480 Personal finance section, if 3197 01:23:49,480 --> 01:23:50,650 you've got some money you want 3198 01:23:50,650 --> 01:23:51,220 to invest. 3199 01:23:51,220 --> 01:23:52,610 But I think even more fun is 3200 01:23:52,610 --> 01:23:53,880 the travel section. 3201 01:23:53,940 --> 01:23:55,020 I'm going to go directly to the 3202 01:23:55,020 --> 01:23:55,780 cruise critic. 3203 01:23:56,060 --> 01:23:57,270 This is almost as good as 3204 01:23:57,270 --> 01:23:58,730 having Bruce Williams right 3205 01:23:58,730 --> 01:24:00,170 there by your side to tell you 3206 01:24:00,170 --> 01:24:02,260 about and review different cruises, 3207 01:24:02,260 --> 01:24:03,800 as well as allow you to make 3208 01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:04,900 reservations. 3209 01:24:05,500 --> 01:24:06,460 Now, some of the most relevant 3210 01:24:06,460 --> 01:24:08,110 and important information I've 3211 01:24:08,110 --> 01:24:09,560 ever read on the Internet was 3212 01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,000 written by some of our senior 3213 01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:11,780 citizens. 3214 01:24:11,780 --> 01:24:13,270 So if you are a senior citizen 3215 01:24:13,270 --> 01:24:14,730 and you are not online, not 3216 01:24:14,730 --> 01:24:16,350 with email, and you don't know 3217 01:24:16,350 --> 01:24:17,910 how to use a computer, please 3218 01:24:17,910 --> 01:24:19,640 go out, learn to use a computer, 3219 01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,400 get online, because you'll have 3220 01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:23,120 a lot of fun and we need you. 3221 01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:24,730 Easier said than done, Giles, 3222 01:24:24,730 --> 01:24:25,420 you know. 3223 01:24:25,620 --> 01:24:26,600 Go out and learn to use a 3224 01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,360 computer because we need you. 3225 01:24:28,820 --> 01:24:30,290 Now time for our weekly summary 3226 01:24:30,290 --> 01:24:31,400 of what's new in the field of 3227 01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:32,560 personal computing. 3228 01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:33,940 Let's go to Studio E. 3229 01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:35,720 Will it be senior themed or 3230 01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:37,710 will it just deviate from the 3231 01:24:37,710 --> 01:24:39,660 senior themed episode and go 3232 01:24:39,660 --> 01:24:41,350 back into shit hot new tech 3233 01:24:41,350 --> 01:24:43,610 aimed at, you know, the younger 3234 01:24:43,610 --> 01:24:44,700 audience? 3235 01:24:44,700 --> 01:24:46,010 This week's our weekly line 3236 01:24:46,010 --> 01:24:47,310 because you'll have a lot of 3237 01:24:47,310 --> 01:24:48,420 fun and we need you. 3238 01:24:49,180 --> 01:24:50,160 Now time for our weekly summary 3239 01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:51,690 of what's new in the field of 3240 01:24:51,690 --> 01:24:53,120 personal computing. 3241 01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:54,860 Let's go to Studio E for this 3242 01:24:54,860 --> 01:24:56,030 week's computer news with 3243 01:24:56,030 --> 01:24:56,700 Laurie. 3244 01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:58,990 In the random access file this 3245 01:24:58,990 --> 01:25:00,810 week, both MCI and AT&T are now 3246 01:25:00,810 --> 01:25:02,510 offering Internet access to 3247 01:25:02,510 --> 01:25:04,680 their long distance customers. 3248 01:25:05,260 --> 01:25:06,270 The two phone companies are 3249 01:25:06,270 --> 01:25:08,070 offering five free hours of net 3250 01:25:08,070 --> 01:25:09,300 access per month. 3251 01:25:09,300 --> 01:25:10,850 Chris, is it a shoulder pad 3252 01:25:10,850 --> 01:25:12,960 situation in 1996 even? 3253 01:25:13,020 --> 01:25:15,230 Or unlimited access for $19.95 3254 01:25:15,230 --> 01:25:15,960 per month. 3255 01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:17,480 MCI said it would triple the 3256 01:25:17,480 --> 01:25:18,850 capacity of its Internet 3257 01:25:18,850 --> 01:25:20,270 backbone to support the 3258 01:25:20,270 --> 01:25:21,560 additional traffic. 3259 01:25:21,820 --> 01:25:23,450 The House of Representatives is 3260 01:25:23,450 --> 01:25:25,020 considering a new bill to limit 3261 01:25:25,020 --> 01:25:27,120 the effect of the new telecommunications 3262 01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:28,980 deregulation law, which prohibits 3263 01:25:28,980 --> 01:25:30,240 indecent material on the 3264 01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:31,040 Internet. 3265 01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:33,030 The new language would restrict 3266 01:25:33,030 --> 01:25:35,170 only material which is, quote, 3267 01:25:35,170 --> 01:25:36,460 harmful to minors. 3268 01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:38,280 You may soon be sending Mother's 3269 01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:39,980 Day cards on the Internet. 3270 01:25:40,420 --> 01:25:41,880 Walmart and Microsoft have 3271 01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:43,470 reached agreement to jointly 3272 01:25:43,470 --> 01:25:45,130 develop a standard for sending 3273 01:25:45,130 --> 01:25:47,180 electronic greeting cards, 3274 01:25:47,180 --> 01:25:48,780 complete with color graphics 3275 01:25:48,780 --> 01:25:50,940 and possibly even animation. 3276 01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:53,350 A federal court has upheld the 3277 01:25:53,350 --> 01:25:54,890 right of employers to read 3278 01:25:54,890 --> 01:25:56,640 emails sent by employees over 3279 01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:58,240 company email systems. 3280 01:25:58,700 --> 01:26:00,060 The case arose after Pillsbury 3281 01:26:00,060 --> 01:26:01,100 fired... 3282 01:26:01,100 --> 01:26:02,400 I don't think I've seen this 3283 01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:03,870 lady do the random access bit 3284 01:26:03,870 --> 01:26:04,360 before. 3285 01:26:04,540 --> 01:26:06,610 And it's also a deviation from 3286 01:26:06,610 --> 01:26:08,600 just the head-on shot of just 3287 01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:09,360 there. 3288 01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:11,360 And we've gone out to another 3289 01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,860 angle, which is a new situation. 3290 01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:15,970 A federal court has upheld the 3291 01:26:15,970 --> 01:26:18,340 right of employers to read... 3292 01:26:18,340 --> 01:26:20,210 You know, that sort of cadence, 3293 01:26:20,210 --> 01:26:22,020 the newsreader cadence, works 3294 01:26:22,020 --> 01:26:23,750 well, I think, in that format 3295 01:26:23,750 --> 01:26:24,400 there. 3296 01:26:25,100 --> 01:26:26,140 But then when you see the 3297 01:26:26,140 --> 01:26:28,330 person, it seems a little bit 3298 01:26:28,330 --> 01:26:31,300 unnatural when you see that... 3299 01:26:31,300 --> 01:26:32,480 ...even animation. 3300 01:26:32,780 --> 01:26:33,300 ...that shot there. 3301 01:26:33,300 --> 01:26:34,980 A federal court has upheld the 3302 01:26:34,980 --> 01:26:36,470 right of employers to read 3303 01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:38,170 emails sent by employees over 3304 01:26:38,170 --> 01:26:39,800 company email systems. 3305 01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:41,760 The case arose after Pillsbury 3306 01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,790 fired an employee who had used 3307 01:26:43,790 --> 01:26:45,500 email messages to criticize 3308 01:26:45,500 --> 01:26:47,390 managers in what was deemed an 3309 01:26:47,390 --> 01:26:49,240 inappropriate manner. 3310 01:26:49,460 --> 01:26:51,600 I wanted to hear more about the 3311 01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,430 Pillsbury disgruntled employer, 3312 01:26:54,430 --> 01:26:55,760 but we won't. 3313 01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:56,550 It's just left to our 3314 01:26:56,550 --> 01:26:57,260 imagination. 3315 01:26:57,940 --> 01:26:59,520 The Pillsbury doughboy, the 3316 01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:01,270 place where they make the 3317 01:27:01,270 --> 01:27:02,860 pastry and stuff. 3318 01:27:02,860 --> 01:27:05,350 Apparently, an employee, it 3319 01:27:05,350 --> 01:27:08,120 sounds like, really caused up a 3320 01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:09,800 bit of a stink there. 3321 01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,010 Add Novell to the list of Java 3322 01:27:12,010 --> 01:27:13,200 licensees. 3323 01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:14,760 The company says it will soon 3324 01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:16,360 offer the Java development 3325 01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:17,980 platform as part of Netware, 3326 01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,100 enabling customers to develop 3327 01:27:20,100 --> 01:27:22,230 Java applications for Internet 3328 01:27:22,230 --> 01:27:23,660 and intranet use. 3329 01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:25,630 Hewitt Packard and cell phone 3330 01:27:25,630 --> 01:27:27,300 maker Nokia have teamed up to 3331 01:27:27,300 --> 01:27:29,510 introduce the first-ever palm-top 3332 01:27:29,510 --> 01:27:31,240 mobile business device, 3333 01:27:31,740 --> 01:27:33,970 The Omnigo 700 LX is 3334 01:27:33,970 --> 01:27:36,780 essentially an HP 200 LX palm-top 3335 01:27:36,780 --> 01:27:39,210 computer, coupled with a Nokia 3336 01:27:39,210 --> 01:27:40,700 cellular phone. 3337 01:27:40,700 --> 01:27:41,500 Look at that. 3338 01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:43,800 Never seen that before. 3339 01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:47,240 I mean, I remember that old 3340 01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:48,560 phone, like... 3341 01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:50,580 Or maybe I remember the one 3342 01:27:50,580 --> 01:27:52,500 that came after that. 3343 01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:57,260 Even before the 3210, there was 3344 01:27:57,260 --> 01:27:58,900 a model of Nokia that looked 3345 01:27:58,900 --> 01:28:00,260 like that, but it had a 3346 01:28:00,260 --> 01:28:02,100 different button layout. 3347 01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:07,300 And this is a Hewlett Packard 3348 01:28:07,300 --> 01:28:10,660 slot box, which your Nokia 3349 01:28:10,660 --> 01:28:12,680 slides into. 3350 01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:15,040 It must have been a fucking co-production 3351 01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,320 between Nokia and Hewlett Packard. 3352 01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:22,300 So it's your palm-top, palm-pilot 3353 01:28:22,300 --> 01:28:25,310 computer, but with phone access, 3354 01:28:25,310 --> 01:28:27,840 you slide your phone into it, 3355 01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,220 and all the data that you've 3356 01:28:29,220 --> 01:28:30,780 been collating in it can be 3357 01:28:30,780 --> 01:28:31,480 transferred. 3358 01:28:31,480 --> 01:28:33,320 You know, contact details, text 3359 01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:34,760 messages, the whatnot. 3360 01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:36,950 Palm-top computer, coupled with 3361 01:28:36,950 --> 01:28:39,160 a Nokia cellular phone. The 3362 01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:40,790 result is a complete wireless 3363 01:28:40,790 --> 01:28:42,960 mobile workstation, which lets 3364 01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:44,870 you do email, send faxes, make 3365 01:28:44,870 --> 01:28:46,570 phone calls, or run common 3366 01:28:46,570 --> 01:28:48,440 business applications. 3367 01:28:48,440 --> 01:28:51,200 Pretty cool, using WAP. I'd say 3368 01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,160 it's using WAP. 3369 01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:55,170 The Omnigo 700 is being 3370 01:28:55,170 --> 01:28:57,160 released first in Europe. 3371 01:28:57,880 --> 01:28:59,190 Apple has unveiled another 3372 01:28:59,190 --> 01:29:01,360 upgrade to its Newton PDA. 3373 01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:03,630 The new message pad 130 has 3374 01:29:03,630 --> 01:29:06,000 more memory, built-in internet 3375 01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,700 capability, improved multitasking, 3376 01:29:08,700 --> 01:29:10,460 and a backlit screen. 3377 01:29:11,140 --> 01:29:12,530 iOmega says it will soon be 3378 01:29:12,530 --> 01:29:15,150 bundling its popular zip drives 3379 01:29:15,150 --> 01:29:17,320 in several desktop PCs. 3380 01:29:17,820 --> 01:29:19,780 Hewlett Packard and Micron have 3381 01:29:19,780 --> 01:29:21,260 made deals to use the zip 3382 01:29:21,260 --> 01:29:23,260 drives in selected PC models. 3383 01:29:23,780 --> 01:29:25,270 And in Europe, ESCOM has also 3384 01:29:25,270 --> 01:29:27,300 signed up to offer an internal 3385 01:29:27,300 --> 01:29:29,420 zip drive in its computers. 3386 01:29:29,740 --> 01:29:31,490 For senior citizens interested 3387 01:29:31,490 --> 01:29:33,860 in getting into computers, Osborne 3388 01:29:33,860 --> 01:29:35,840 McGraw-Hill has just released 3389 01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:37,820 Young at Heart, Computing for 3390 01:29:37,820 --> 01:29:38,720 Seniors. 3391 01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:40,480 A new book aimed specifically 3392 01:29:40,480 --> 01:29:42,240 at helping older adults get up 3393 01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:43,790 to speed with computers, 3394 01:29:43,790 --> 01:29:45,800 software, and the internet. 3395 01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:48,170 The book is co-authored by Mary 3396 01:29:48,170 --> 01:29:50,260 Furlong, founder of SeniorNet. 3397 01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:51,980 And finally, websites are 3398 01:29:51,980 --> 01:29:53,930 getting more and more like TV, 3399 01:29:53,930 --> 01:29:55,960 including Nielsen ratings. 3400 01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:57,890 The ratings are actually done 3401 01:29:57,890 --> 01:29:59,570 by a company called NPD and 3402 01:29:59,570 --> 01:30:01,600 automatically track web usage 3403 01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:03,660 in selected metered homes. 3404 01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:05,940 The first ratings were done in 3405 01:30:05,940 --> 01:30:07,690 January and showed AOL as the 3406 01:30:07,690 --> 01:30:09,720 most popular website, followed 3407 01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:11,960 by Webcrawler, Netscape, Yahoo, 3408 01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:13,180 and Infoseek. 3409 01:30:13,380 --> 01:30:13,720 Webcrawler. 3410 01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:14,600 That's it for this week's 3411 01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:15,280 Random Access. 3412 01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:16,400 Back to you, Stuart. 3413 01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:17,740 Anything more from Stu? 3414 01:30:17,860 --> 01:30:18,880 Pick of the week, maybe? 3415 01:30:19,220 --> 01:30:20,480 Now for my pick of the week. 3416 01:30:20,480 --> 01:30:20,700 Beautiful. 3417 01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:27,920 It's a massive pitch. 3418 01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:29,660 A whole new world. 3419 01:30:30,660 --> 01:30:32,220 This is being built as a whole. 3420 01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:33,220 You can create a whole new 3421 01:30:33,220 --> 01:30:33,660 world. 3422 01:30:33,780 --> 01:30:34,840 It creates a whole new world 3423 01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:35,950 and lets you do things you 3424 01:30:35,950 --> 01:30:37,130 could have never done before 3425 01:30:37,130 --> 01:30:38,220 without a computer. 3426 01:30:38,740 --> 01:30:40,670 Well, Widget Workshop from Maxis 3427 01:30:40,670 --> 01:30:41,860 is such a program. 3428 01:30:44,860 --> 01:30:45,540 Let's have a look at the box 3429 01:30:45,540 --> 01:30:46,600 art. 3430 01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:51,360 A Widget Workshop from Maxis. 3431 01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,220 Some clip art inspired stuff. 3432 01:30:56,540 --> 01:30:59,140 Featuring a zany, crazy, kind 3433 01:30:59,140 --> 01:31:01,940 of poindexter type guy. 3434 01:31:02,220 --> 01:31:04,460 And then a bird with a massive 3435 01:31:04,460 --> 01:31:05,140 eye. 3436 01:31:06,340 --> 01:31:08,300 On top of the word widget. 3437 01:31:08,540 --> 01:31:09,840 The banner widget. 3438 01:31:10,500 --> 01:31:11,520 It's an interdepartmental 3439 01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:13,270 science lab that is just really 3440 01:31:13,270 --> 01:31:15,040 fun and very educational. 3441 01:31:15,340 --> 01:31:16,640 And is this for seniors now? 3442 01:31:16,980 --> 01:31:18,480 Widget Workshop lets you build 3443 01:31:18,480 --> 01:31:19,850 widgets, which are really 3444 01:31:19,850 --> 01:31:21,170 scientific experiments in 3445 01:31:21,170 --> 01:31:23,090 electricity, computers, biology, 3446 01:31:23,090 --> 01:31:24,760 math, physics, and so on. 3447 01:31:25,140 --> 01:31:26,270 Widget Workshop comes with a 3448 01:31:26,270 --> 01:31:27,890 huge toolkit that makes it easy 3449 01:31:27,890 --> 01:31:30,010 to construct wild, Rube Goldberg-type 3450 01:31:30,010 --> 01:31:31,590 contraptions that follow the 3451 01:31:31,590 --> 01:31:33,000 real laws of science. 3452 01:31:33,460 --> 01:31:34,030 It's somewhat like the 3453 01:31:34,030 --> 01:31:35,560 incredible machine, only it's 3454 01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:36,360 not just a game. 3455 01:31:36,460 --> 01:31:37,990 It is a serious and powerful 3456 01:31:37,990 --> 01:31:39,320 educational tool. 3457 01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:41,020 What's really cool about Widget 3458 01:31:41,020 --> 01:31:42,810 Workshop's virtual lab is that 3459 01:31:42,810 --> 01:31:44,300 you can create things you could 3460 01:31:44,300 --> 01:31:45,920 never create in a real lab. 3461 01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:47,900 This program is fun and a must. 3462 01:31:47,900 --> 01:31:49,300 I don't think you can create 3463 01:31:49,300 --> 01:31:50,280 anything on it. 3464 01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:51,680 It really is. 3465 01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:54,600 It looks very basic as well. 3466 01:31:54,700 --> 01:31:56,190 But I mean, these pick of the 3467 01:31:56,190 --> 01:31:58,140 weeks, I think, are sponsored 3468 01:31:58,140 --> 01:31:58,760 content. 3469 01:31:59,540 --> 01:32:00,630 Although it's never intimated 3470 01:32:00,630 --> 01:32:02,440 at any point that they are. 3471 01:32:03,740 --> 01:32:04,140 Hello. 3472 01:32:04,260 --> 01:32:05,590 Thank you very much there for 3473 01:32:05,590 --> 01:32:06,060 the tip. 3474 01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:08,620 For kids who like science. 3475 01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:10,600 Widget Workshop from Maxis. 3476 01:32:11,140 --> 01:32:11,750 That's it for this week's 3477 01:32:11,750 --> 01:32:12,960 Computer Chronicles. 3478 01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:14,090 We'll be back here again next 3479 01:32:14,090 --> 01:32:14,460 week. 3480 01:32:14,460 --> 01:32:17,130 Somebody recommended me a torrent 3481 01:32:17,130 --> 01:32:19,310 which combines not only the 3482 01:32:19,310 --> 01:32:21,760 virtual machine software to run 3483 01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:25,670 Windows 95 and 98 games, but it's 3484 01:32:25,670 --> 01:32:26,520 fucking huge. 3485 01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:29,300 I've never seen such a huge torrent. 3486 01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:31,720 It would take a long time to 3487 01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:33,910 download every game ever made 3488 01:32:33,910 --> 01:32:36,980 for Windows 95 and 98 PC. 3489 01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:40,210 Like that's something in and of 3490 01:32:40,210 --> 01:32:40,940 itself. 3491 01:32:41,460 --> 01:32:42,420 Don't have it yet. 3492 01:32:42,500 --> 01:32:44,400 I don't think I would have it 3493 01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:45,620 for some time. 3494 01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:49,160 It was 255 or 256 gigabytes. 3495 01:32:49,660 --> 01:32:50,380 Thank you very much there. 3496 01:32:50,660 --> 01:32:51,880 That was Steve. 3497 01:32:52,300 --> 01:32:53,140 And Skellington. 3498 01:32:53,300 --> 01:32:55,300 Thank you very much for the tip. 3499 01:32:55,500 --> 01:32:56,560 With another half hour. 3500 01:32:56,940 --> 01:32:58,110 Latest in personal computer 3501 01:32:58,110 --> 01:32:58,980 technology. 3502 01:32:59,480 --> 01:33:00,200 I'm Stuart Chaffee. 3503 01:33:00,300 --> 01:33:01,240 Any links for that? 3504 01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:02,020 It's a website. 3505 01:33:02,420 --> 01:33:02,720 I actually. 3506 01:33:02,980 --> 01:33:03,300 It's a. 3507 01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:05,720 You just like a www dot job. 3508 01:33:05,780 --> 01:33:06,760 I don't remember what it is 3509 01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:07,260 though. 3510 01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:09,260 And I don't have it to hand 3511 01:33:09,260 --> 01:33:09,520 here. 3512 01:33:09,860 --> 01:33:10,780 I see you here next week. 3513 01:33:10,780 --> 01:33:12,040 I'll get back to you on that. 3514 01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:17,180 It's not only a few hours there, 3515 01:33:17,180 --> 01:33:17,840 Graggle. 3516 01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,510 Especially if you're on the 5G 3517 01:33:20,510 --> 01:33:22,180 modem that I'm on. 3518 01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:24,560 It would take quite some time. 3519 01:33:25,340 --> 01:33:26,190 Computer Chronicles is made 3520 01:33:26,190 --> 01:33:27,730 possible in part by Hewlett 3521 01:33:27,730 --> 01:33:29,700 Packard Personal Computers. 3522 01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:31,860 Developing PCs for business. 3523 01:33:39,380 --> 01:33:36,720 Additional funding provided by 3524 01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:40,520 the Software Publishers 3525 01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:43,040 Association. 3526 01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:44,760 Presenters of the Codys. 3527 01:33:44,980 --> 01:33:46,120 The annual Excellence in 3528 01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:47,240 Software Awards. 3529 01:33:49,620 --> 01:33:48,780 Videotape copies of all 3530 01:33:48,780 --> 01:33:50,800 Computer Chronicles shows are 3531 01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:53,280 available for $32.50. 3532 01:33:53,700 --> 01:33:54,060 Please order. 3533 01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:55,330 I can't remember seeing this 3534 01:33:55,330 --> 01:33:55,840 before. 3535 01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:57,360 Stu in the background. 3536 01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:00,300 In this edit with the opacity 3537 01:34:00,300 --> 01:34:01,560 changed. 3538 01:34:02,460 --> 01:34:04,180 And the color hue changed. 3539 01:34:04,260 --> 01:34:05,080 The color of Stu. 3540 01:34:05,660 --> 01:34:06,800 To a lovely purple. 3541 01:34:08,620 --> 01:34:10,260 And great, great graphic design. 3542 01:34:10,380 --> 01:34:13,540 And that VHS slash Betamax tape. 3543 01:34:13,540 --> 01:34:16,500 For $32.50. 3544 01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:18,220 Computing seniors. 3545 01:34:18,220 --> 01:34:19,560 By show number and topic. 3546 01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:20,520 And for more detailed 3547 01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:21,970 information about the series, 3548 01:34:21,970 --> 01:34:23,680 guests, and products featured. 3549 01:34:23,820 --> 01:34:24,060 Purple Haze. 3550 01:34:24,060 --> 01:34:24,750 You can also order a 3551 01:34:24,750 --> 01:34:25,730 subscription to the Shafay 3552 01:34:25,730 --> 01:34:26,180 Letter. 3553 01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:27,780 In each issue, Stuart provides 3554 01:34:27,780 --> 01:34:28,970 his unique insights and 3555 01:34:28,970 --> 01:34:30,680 thoughts about the fast-changing 3556 01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:32,420 world of personal technology. 3557 01:34:33,060 --> 01:34:33,860 Videotapes and the Shafay 3558 01:34:33,860 --> 01:34:34,500 Letter. 3559 01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:38,100 You can be ordered by calling 1-800-800-9520. 3560 01:34:38,100 --> 01:34:38,600 Who are you? 3561 01:34:38,700 --> 01:34:39,750 Or by writing us at the 3562 01:34:39,750 --> 01:34:40,920 Computer Chronicles. 3563 01:34:41,300 --> 01:34:42,400 I don't know why. 3564 01:34:42,940 --> 01:34:43,680 Excuse me. 3565 01:34:43,700 --> 01:34:44,370 For more information on 3566 01:34:44,370 --> 01:34:44,920 anything else. 3567 01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:46,500 While I teach this guy. 3568 01:34:46,500 --> 01:34:46,500 Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do- 3569 01:34:46,500 --> 01:34:51,130 Teach the senior citizen some 3570 01:34:51,130 --> 01:34:54,500 computing skills. 3571 01:34:55,700 --> 01:34:56,820 And look at this. 3572 01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:00,100 DialogueNetscapeDialogueBox. 3573 01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:03,820 Just fantastic graphics. 3574 01:35:11,820 --> 01:35:13,280 Excuse me. 3575 01:35:13,700 --> 01:35:15,060 What's this DPI? 3576 01:35:15,060 --> 01:35:17,560 I'm down now where I'm down now 3577 01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:28,290 where I'll do that. I'm what a 3578 01:35:28,290 --> 01:35:30,060 bizarre end in 3579 01:35:30,060 --> 01:35:31,950 there of Claire labo who is 3580 01:35:31,950 --> 01:35:34,010 talking to Stu earlier on and 3581 01:35:34,010 --> 01:35:35,460 have just gone with 3582 01:35:35,460 --> 01:35:37,210 this. Why would you go with 3583 01:35:37,210 --> 01:35:38,890 that as the final picture of 3584 01:35:38,890 --> 01:35:39,420 her? 3585 01:35:39,420 --> 01:35:49,550 Love that. Watch the future. 3586 01:35:49,550 --> 01:35:53,360 And I forgot to fucking add any 3587 01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:57,780 hot sizzle points there. Doesn't 3588 01:35:57,780 --> 01:35:58,060 matter. 3589 01:35:58,460 --> 01:36:00,640 Doesn't matter. There's still 3590 01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:02,770 plenty more where that came 3591 01:36:02,770 --> 01:36:05,260 from as we transition here from 3592 01:36:05,260 --> 01:36:05,640 I see 3593 01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:08,440 I was going to go into Netcafe 3594 01:36:08,440 --> 01:36:11,240 but Larry Maggots the Maggot 3595 01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:14,340 man on Windows 95 which is 3596 01:36:14,340 --> 01:36:16,020 something we've seen before. 3597 01:36:17,100 --> 01:36:18,440 I think I can't imagine us not 3598 01:36:18,440 --> 01:36:21,490 of having selected a Windows 95 3599 01:36:21,490 --> 01:36:24,640 thumbnail or anything like that. 3600 01:36:25,440 --> 01:36:28,600 E3 special hasn't been clicked. 3601 01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:32,260 Wild Bill Steely but it's I 3602 01:36:32,260 --> 01:36:35,820 think 1996 E3. 3603 01:36:36,900 --> 01:36:38,140 It has to have been seen. It 3604 01:36:38,140 --> 01:36:40,160 has to have been seen. 3605 01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:42,230 Let's have a quick quick quick 3606 01:36:42,230 --> 01:36:43,760 quick quick quick quick quick 3607 01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:45,650 look. I think I remember this 3608 01:36:45,650 --> 01:36:46,300 book. 3609 01:36:47,300 --> 01:36:49,800 Thank you very much there. Shafi.com 3610 01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:51,430 is up for sale. Would you 3611 01:36:51,430 --> 01:36:53,330 consider purchasing it to act 3612 01:36:53,330 --> 01:36:54,420 as a custodian? 3613 01:36:54,500 --> 01:36:56,650 I wouldn't. I'd rather see it 3614 01:36:56,650 --> 01:36:58,560 in the hands of a Shafi. 3615 01:36:59,100 --> 01:37:00,720 You know someone who's going to 3616 01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:02,660 do it justice. Maybe really. 3617 01:37:02,660 --> 01:37:03,660 You know I just think it 3618 01:37:03,660 --> 01:37:05,160 belongs to him you know. 3619 01:37:06,700 --> 01:37:08,050 I'm just someone who likes his 3620 01:37:08,050 --> 01:37:10,800 oeuvre. His oeuvre and his 3621 01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:11,920 stuffs. 3622 01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:13,360 You know I don't want to be a 3623 01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,420 custodian or anything like that. 3624 01:37:16,700 --> 01:37:17,360 If this is rubbish. If we've 3625 01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:19,520 seen it before it's going off. 3626 01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:21,130 There might be some good stuff 3627 01:37:21,130 --> 01:37:22,920 in it. With it being E3 you 3628 01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:23,400 know. 3629 01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:25,800 Ever getting back on the pace 3630 01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:27,590 train of Silent Hill 1. Kalinsky. 3631 01:37:27,590 --> 01:37:28,460 Thanks for the tip. 3632 01:37:29,220 --> 01:37:31,120 It's just the emulator stopped 3633 01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:32,420 running it. 3634 01:37:32,540 --> 01:37:34,290 And I could fucking look. I 3635 01:37:34,290 --> 01:37:35,680 could give it a go. 3636 01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:36,940 But it's so depressing. 3637 01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:38,760 And they're remaking it aren't 3638 01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:39,280 they? 3639 01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:40,750 They're remaking it so it could 3640 01:37:40,750 --> 01:37:41,720 be out next year. 3641 01:37:43,100 --> 01:37:44,460 I'm not sure I'd bother my arse 3642 01:37:44,460 --> 01:37:46,380 playing the original. 3643 01:37:46,900 --> 01:37:47,900 Or finishing it even. 3644 01:37:47,900 --> 01:37:56,820 Yeah I've seen that. 3645 01:37:57,380 --> 01:38:00,060 This was a bad audio episode. 3646 01:38:01,060 --> 01:38:02,430 Yeah we had to go to. That's 3647 01:38:02,430 --> 01:38:03,140 why I haven't clicked it. 3648 01:38:03,340 --> 01:38:05,550 Had to go to archive.com just 3649 01:38:05,550 --> 01:38:05,840 to get it. 3650 01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:07,840 And even then the audio was naff. 3651 01:38:10,180 --> 01:38:10,900 Look at that. 3652 01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:12,520 Maggie Cannon can't even hear 3653 01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:13,740 what she's saying. 3654 01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:17,690 It's just got all the interstitial 3655 01:38:17,690 --> 01:38:20,140 studio voiceover from Stu. 3656 01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:21,810 But we don't have any of the 3657 01:38:21,810 --> 01:38:22,900 people audio. 3658 01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:34,240 Maggie Cannon. 3659 01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:41,080 And then boom. 3660 01:38:42,540 --> 01:38:43,360 And then boom. 3661 01:38:43,480 --> 01:38:46,670 Is this an archive.org 3662 01:38:46,670 --> 01:38:48,200 situation? 3663 01:38:48,440 --> 01:38:49,480 State of the web. 3664 01:38:50,020 --> 01:38:50,800 Web startups. 3665 01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:52,000 That's just a load of web 3666 01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:52,720 startups. 3667 01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:57,540 Net games. 3668 01:38:57,540 --> 01:39:26,780 News. 3669 01:39:26,780 --> 01:39:28,310 This week at the Net Cafe, 3670 01:39:28,310 --> 01:39:30,100 games online. Want to play an 3671 01:39:30,100 --> 01:39:31,950 RPG on the web? This is the new 3672 01:39:31,950 --> 01:39:33,810 EverQuest from Sony. It's as 3673 01:39:33,810 --> 01:39:35,830 good as it gets online. Meet Issa 3674 01:39:35,830 --> 01:39:37,920 Stamos, the producer of Berserk's 3675 01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:39,830 newest online game, What's the 3676 01:39:39,830 --> 01:39:41,580 Big Idea? It's a TV game show 3677 01:39:41,580 --> 01:39:43,790 on the net. Bill Gates does it. 3678 01:39:43,790 --> 01:39:45,720 Warren Buffett does it. Why don't 3679 01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:46,740 you do it? 3680 01:39:47,020 --> 01:39:48,180 Warren Buffett. We only talked 3681 01:39:48,180 --> 01:39:49,400 about him the other day. 3682 01:39:56,020 --> 01:39:58,300 I've seen it. Seen it. Can't 3683 01:39:58,300 --> 01:40:00,200 forget Gilbert. Back to the 3684 01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:02,390 drawing board on that one. I'm 3685 01:40:02,390 --> 01:40:04,560 afraid, lads. I think we go to 3686 01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:07,410 1998 and there's some fantastic 3687 01:40:07,410 --> 01:40:10,540 thumbnails there. I don't know. 3688 01:40:10,540 --> 01:40:13,100 Oh yeah, there was also, I just 3689 01:40:13,100 --> 01:40:15,560 need to dip into this here, the 3690 01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:17,960 playlist that was sent to me as 3691 01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:20,230 a content gold mine treasure 3692 01:40:20,230 --> 01:40:21,160 trove. 3693 01:40:22,220 --> 01:40:22,840 Today we're going to discuss 3694 01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:24,160 the hidden danger. 3695 01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:26,800 None other than your man, 3696 01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:30,130 Stuart, from the Net Cafe. But 3697 01:40:30,130 --> 01:40:32,620 in nowadays, he's a San 3698 01:40:32,620 --> 01:40:36,680 Francisco Bay Area probate realtor. 3699 01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:39,720 And this is him nowadays. 3700 01:40:40,380 --> 01:40:41,880 In hiring a local real estate 3701 01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:43,950 agent or friend in a probate 3702 01:40:43,950 --> 01:40:45,820 and trust situation. 3703 01:40:46,020 --> 01:40:47,670 Some of you are thinking about 3704 01:40:47,670 --> 01:40:49,700 a probate and trust situation. 3705 01:40:50,060 --> 01:40:51,020 Hiring a local real estate 3706 01:40:51,020 --> 01:40:52,460 agent that you may have known 3707 01:40:52,460 --> 01:40:54,160 for a few decades, or perhaps a 3708 01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:55,780 family friend or a family 3709 01:40:55,780 --> 01:40:57,000 member with a real estate 3710 01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:57,740 license. 3711 01:40:57,740 --> 01:41:00,040 So he really made good of his 3712 01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:02,440 career post Net Cafe and he's 3713 01:41:02,440 --> 01:41:04,920 doing this realtor stuff. 3714 01:41:04,980 --> 01:41:06,940 Tell you that this could create 3715 01:41:06,940 --> 01:41:08,160 more problems. 3716 01:41:08,660 --> 01:41:09,810 Choosing the right real estate 3717 01:41:09,810 --> 01:41:11,320 agent for a probate or trust 3718 01:41:11,320 --> 01:41:12,850 sale isn't just about knowing 3719 01:41:12,850 --> 01:41:14,080 the neighborhood. 3720 01:41:14,620 --> 01:41:16,600 While a probate or the opposite, 3721 01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:17,820 a reprobate. 3722 01:41:17,820 --> 01:41:19,940 Local experience is valuable. 3723 01:41:19,940 --> 01:41:21,820 Handling complex transactions 3724 01:41:21,820 --> 01:41:23,790 like these require specialized 3725 01:41:23,790 --> 01:41:24,820 experience. 3726 01:41:25,020 --> 01:41:26,900 Without it, you risk delays, 3727 01:41:26,900 --> 01:41:28,200 liability and missed 3728 01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:29,500 opportunities. 3729 01:41:29,660 --> 01:41:31,460 And unfortunately, I've seen a 3730 01:41:31,460 --> 01:41:33,120 lot of those happen over the 3731 01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:34,500 past 21 years. 3732 01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:36,220 In this video, I'll share with 3733 01:41:36,220 --> 01:41:37,890 you the key dangers of working 3734 01:41:37,890 --> 01:41:39,570 with someone unfamiliar with 3735 01:41:39,570 --> 01:41:41,400 probate and trust sales and how 3736 01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:43,110 hiring a seasoned expert can 3737 01:41:43,110 --> 01:41:44,780 make all the difference. 3738 01:41:44,980 --> 01:41:47,350 Let's ensure your property sale 3739 01:41:47,350 --> 01:41:49,350 is smooth, successful and 3740 01:41:49,350 --> 01:41:50,560 stress free. 3741 01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:53,040 In my 21 years of experience, I've 3742 01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:54,780 seen a lot of deals go off the 3743 01:41:54,780 --> 01:41:56,920 rail that no one anticipated. 3744 01:41:57,260 --> 01:41:58,110 My goal in this video is to 3745 01:41:58,110 --> 01:41:59,220 share with... 3746 01:41:59,220 --> 01:42:00,370 There really is no other 3747 01:42:00,370 --> 01:42:01,520 content from him on that 3748 01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:02,960 particular video there. 3749 01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:05,120 Cyborg, there's other stuff 3750 01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:07,290 here than this little thing 3751 01:42:07,290 --> 01:42:08,880 that G-Man sent to us. 3752 01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:11,910 But I wouldn't mind getting a 3753 01:42:11,910 --> 01:42:14,560 good Net Cafe in... 3754 01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:16,820 Before a cook report. 3755 01:42:18,260 --> 01:42:20,560 Stuart Shaffey PCTV promo. 3756 01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:22,650 You don't have any other Net 3757 01:42:22,650 --> 01:42:25,380 Cafe in that list there, G-Man. 3758 01:42:25,440 --> 01:42:26,990 So I'll just have a look here 3759 01:42:26,990 --> 01:42:28,760 and see first before moving on 3760 01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:29,400 to that. 3761 01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:31,140 Group therapy. 3762 01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:32,620 Jobs and careers. 3763 01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:34,980 Making money. 3764 01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:36,760 Portals. 3765 01:42:37,780 --> 01:42:38,920 One called Sex. 3766 01:42:39,460 --> 01:42:40,660 It's a bit early for that. 3767 01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:42,880 Cyber Chat. 3768 01:42:42,980 --> 01:42:44,200 I think that's being seen. 3769 01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:46,400 The Hollywood connection. 3770 01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:51,080 Sismoviecritic.com. 3771 01:42:51,500 --> 01:42:52,700 HSX.com. 3772 01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:54,800 Film.com. 3773 01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:55,720 Portals. 3774 01:42:55,860 --> 01:42:57,410 Big buzzword in the late 90s 3775 01:42:57,410 --> 01:42:58,200 was portal. 3776 01:42:58,380 --> 01:42:59,860 Every website wanted to become 3777 01:42:59,860 --> 01:43:01,840 a place people went to first so 3778 01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:04,400 they could monetize the traffic. 3779 01:43:07,580 --> 01:43:08,780 He looks intense. 3780 01:43:08,780 --> 01:43:08,780 He looks intense. 3781 01:43:08,780 --> 01:43:08,780 He looks intense. 3782 01:43:08,780 --> 01:43:08,780 He looks intense. 3783 01:43:08,780 --> 01:43:08,780 He looks intense. 3784 01:43:08,780 --> 01:43:08,780 He looks intense. 3785 01:43:08,780 --> 01:43:08,780 He looks intense. 3786 01:43:08,780 --> 01:43:08,780 He looks intense. 3787 01:43:08,780 --> 01:43:08,780 He looks intense. 3788 01:43:08,780 --> 01:43:08,780 He looks intense. 3789 01:43:08,780 --> 01:43:10,920 He looks intense. 3790 01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:13,680 He looks intense. 3791 01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:14,360 He looks intense. 3792 01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:18,680 He looks intense. 3793 01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:23,340 Quality is rough. 3794 01:43:23,340 --> 01:43:27,440 Portals. 3795 01:43:27,440 --> 01:43:29,440 Portals. 3796 01:43:29,440 --> 01:43:31,620 This week at the internet cafe. 3797 01:43:31,860 --> 01:43:32,440 Portals. 3798 01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:33,800 What's a portal anyway? 3799 01:43:34,260 --> 01:43:35,550 Seems everyone on the net wants 3800 01:43:35,550 --> 01:43:37,440 to be one including Netscape. 3801 01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:38,880 NetCenter's Mike Homer will 3802 01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:40,020 tell us why giving away 3803 01:43:40,020 --> 01:43:41,520 websites is a better business 3804 01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:43,020 than giving away software. 3805 01:43:43,700 --> 01:44:10,900 It's great to have maggots. 3806 01:44:10,900 --> 01:44:12,840 Money will tell us why and we'll 3807 01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:14,260 take you to hot bot a search 3808 01:44:14,260 --> 01:44:16,150 engine that still believes that 3809 01:44:16,150 --> 01:44:17,560 a good search engine is a 3810 01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:19,200 terrible thing to waste. 3811 01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:20,060 Portals. 3812 01:44:20,060 --> 01:44:20,060 Portals. 3813 01:44:20,060 --> 01:44:22,020 This week at the internet cafe. 3814 01:44:23,020 --> 01:44:24,280 The net cafe is made possible 3815 01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:26,300 in part by Cybersmith. 3816 01:44:26,740 --> 01:44:27,450 Wired for fun and learning with 3817 01:44:27,450 --> 01:44:28,450 locations in Cambridge, 3818 01:44:28,450 --> 01:44:29,570 Massachusetts, Palo Alto, 3819 01:44:29,570 --> 01:44:30,840 California, and White Plains, 3820 01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:31,420 New York. 3821 01:44:32,260 --> 01:44:33,440 And by TechWeb for up to the 3822 01:44:33,440 --> 01:44:35,620 minute technology news. 3823 01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:38,980 So we're talking about portals 3824 01:44:38,980 --> 01:44:40,230 and Andrew I know in your other 3825 01:44:40,230 --> 01:44:41,530 life you work with HotWired and 3826 01:44:41,530 --> 01:44:42,830 HotBot and you should have been 3827 01:44:42,830 --> 01:44:43,980 involved in this issue. 3828 01:44:43,980 --> 01:44:45,500 So kind of give us a little bit 3829 01:44:45,500 --> 01:44:47,050 of an education here. What 3830 01:44:47,050 --> 01:44:48,020 really is a portal? 3831 01:44:48,020 --> 01:44:49,280 Well, I think a portal is 3832 01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:50,660 probably more of a business 3833 01:44:50,660 --> 01:44:52,210 term than a consumer term. A 3834 01:44:52,210 --> 01:44:54,110 portal, think of a window on a 3835 01:44:54,110 --> 01:44:55,100 ship, right? 3836 01:44:55,860 --> 01:44:56,790 Basically, it's a place that 3837 01:44:56,790 --> 01:44:58,380 people will come to first. 3838 01:44:58,380 --> 01:45:00,310 I love the atmosphere as well. 3839 01:45:00,310 --> 01:45:02,820 It's a nighttime event in Cybersmith. 3840 01:45:02,820 --> 01:45:04,180 Maybe even seasonal. Maybe 3841 01:45:04,180 --> 01:45:05,880 Christmas. I'm not sure. That 3842 01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:07,340 could be a bit of tinsel there. 3843 01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:10,880 What the hell is that there? I 3844 01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:13,080 don't like this coming up and 3845 01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:15,200 show me this selection of stuff. 3846 01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,120 Prince Harry, Jimmy Savile, 3847 01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:22,040 Blazing Saddles, 3848 01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:24,120 Blazing Savile, 3849 01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:25,620 Father Ted, 3850 01:45:26,620 --> 01:45:29,240 and then Murders, 20 years on. 3851 01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:31,120 ...of the internet. 3852 01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:31,440 Right. 3853 01:45:31,500 --> 01:45:32,380 Hopefully it's a place... 3854 01:45:32,380 --> 01:45:32,860 Right. 3855 01:45:32,980 --> 01:45:33,620 ...to catch... 3856 01:45:33,620 --> 01:45:34,870 It's a place that people will 3857 01:45:34,870 --> 01:45:36,200 come to first when... 3858 01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:38,040 When it was Blazing Saddles... 3859 01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:40,280 ...suggested because of Jimmy 3860 01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:42,100 Savile, or was there some sort 3861 01:45:42,100 --> 01:45:43,520 of connection there? 3862 01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:44,720 ...going to the internet. Right. 3863 01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:45,740 Hopefully it's a place that 3864 01:45:45,740 --> 01:45:46,750 catches a lot of traffic and 3865 01:45:46,750 --> 01:45:47,780 keeps people coming back by 3866 01:45:47,780 --> 01:45:49,070 providing different services. 3867 01:45:49,070 --> 01:45:50,440 You know, kind of like... 3868 01:45:50,440 --> 01:45:51,990 Like a Yahoo, a Net Center... 3869 01:45:51,990 --> 01:45:53,330 Yeah, kind of like what AOL was 3870 01:45:53,330 --> 01:45:55,140 before the web... Jimmy Savile. 3871 01:45:55,140 --> 01:45:56,480 ...AOL was your one-stop 3872 01:45:56,480 --> 01:45:57,360 inclusive place. 3873 01:45:57,840 --> 01:45:58,880 And why does it matter? I mean, 3874 01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:00,520 why do people want to be portals? 3875 01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:01,630 Well, it matters for business 3876 01:46:01,630 --> 01:46:02,770 because the more you get people 3877 01:46:02,770 --> 01:46:03,640 to come back... 3878 01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:05,640 Why do people want to be portals? 3879 01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:06,250 I can continue to come back. 3880 01:46:06,250 --> 01:46:07,010 The more traffic, the more... 3881 01:46:07,010 --> 01:46:07,640 dollars, money... 3882 01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:08,830 The more they'll look at your 3883 01:46:08,830 --> 01:46:10,010 advertising and that's big 3884 01:46:10,010 --> 01:46:10,520 bucks. 3885 01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:11,020 Money. 3886 01:46:11,020 --> 01:46:11,980 What do you think about that? I 3887 01:46:11,980 --> 01:46:12,830 mean, would you hang out in a 3888 01:46:12,830 --> 01:46:13,960 portal or do that kind of thing? 3889 01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:14,320 Or is it... 3890 01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:15,620 No, I think the whole issue of 3891 01:46:15,620 --> 01:46:16,920 portals is, you know, you have 3892 01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:18,120 to have a sticky portal now, 3893 01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:19,490 right? So you have to get them 3894 01:46:19,490 --> 01:46:20,360 to hang around. 3895 01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:21,760 Hold you in there. You can't 3896 01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:22,800 get away. Right. 3897 01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:24,240 Like flies to fly paper. So 3898 01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:25,800 that's the whole next step. 3899 01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:27,000 As Andrew says, it's a business. 3900 01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:27,880 Well, we'll find out more 3901 01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:28,320 tonight. 3902 01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:31,160 And when Jim was speaking there, 3903 01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:33,000 it's nice to have that 3904 01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:35,000 background action. 3905 01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:37,000 A car goes racing by. 3906 01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:38,110 Hold you in there. You can't 3907 01:46:38,110 --> 01:46:39,000 get away. Right. 3908 01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:40,150 And it flies to fly paper. So 3909 01:46:40,150 --> 01:46:41,200 that's the whole step. 3910 01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:42,200 Wait for it there. Wow. 3911 01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:43,880 Wow. Little truck. Well, we'll 3912 01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:45,080 find out more tonight. 3913 01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:47,090 It's the atmosphere. It's the 3914 01:46:47,090 --> 01:46:48,730 atmospheric and a lovely 3915 01:46:48,730 --> 01:46:50,950 transition there, as we can see. 3916 01:46:50,950 --> 01:46:55,800 A multi-diagonal wipe or a... 3917 01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:58,300 what would you call that? I don't 3918 01:46:58,300 --> 01:47:01,150 know. Not a... it's not a wipe 3919 01:47:01,150 --> 01:47:02,950 or a fade. Looks like a bear 3920 01:47:02,950 --> 01:47:05,680 claw. A rip or a tear. Tiger 3921 01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:11,960 mall wipe. Digi-rave. Digi-bat. 3922 01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:13,380 So that's the whole next step. 3923 01:47:13,380 --> 01:47:14,950 As Andrew says, it's a business. 3924 01:47:14,950 --> 01:47:16,100 Well, we'll find out more 3925 01:47:16,100 --> 01:47:16,840 tonight. 3926 01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:19,230 So, dear, you're one of the co-founders 3927 01:47:19,230 --> 01:47:21,090 of Excite, a website that is, I 3928 01:47:21,090 --> 01:47:22,600 guess, according to the 3929 01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:24,070 terminology of today, is 3930 01:47:24,070 --> 01:47:26,160 considered to be a portal site. 3931 01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:27,240 The world in the day. Portal. 3932 01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:27,840 Yeah. There it is. 3933 01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:30,170 And the Dutch angle is in full 3934 01:47:30,170 --> 01:47:32,600 effect here. MTV, eat your 3935 01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:35,140 heart out. And a lovely scene 3936 01:47:35,140 --> 01:47:37,710 there. You can see this fella 3937 01:47:37,710 --> 01:47:40,280 going hard at the monitor. 3938 01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:41,840 Again, at the end of the day. 3939 01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:43,310 As I always like to remind 3940 01:47:43,310 --> 01:47:45,160 people, ensconced inside a 3941 01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:45,720 cabinet. 3942 01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:47,400 It'd be hard to really 3943 01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:49,860 understand whether or not that's 3944 01:47:49,860 --> 01:47:52,110 going to have ample room to let 3945 01:47:52,110 --> 01:47:53,910 the heat sink out of that 3946 01:47:53,910 --> 01:47:54,860 monitor. 3947 01:47:55,180 --> 01:47:56,630 Or is that going to decrease 3948 01:47:56,630 --> 01:47:58,460 monitor life? I think it might 3949 01:47:58,460 --> 01:48:00,100 decrease monitor life, but they 3950 01:48:00,100 --> 01:48:01,480 probably had the money for it. 3951 01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:02,880 It's like, you know, community 3952 01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:04,070 portal, the whole nine yards. 3953 01:48:04,070 --> 01:48:07,030 What? And then you've got those 3954 01:48:07,030 --> 01:48:10,620 CCTV sort of strange voyeuristic 3955 01:48:10,620 --> 01:48:12,600 shots from the side. And is 3956 01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:14,300 that like a little monkey there? 3957 01:48:15,940 --> 01:48:17,940 It looks like, see, just from 3958 01:48:17,940 --> 01:48:19,750 here, it looks like a dog's 3959 01:48:19,750 --> 01:48:21,700 face. That looks like a dog's 3960 01:48:21,700 --> 01:48:23,380 nose and a dog's eyes and an 3961 01:48:23,380 --> 01:48:23,980 ear. 3962 01:48:26,460 --> 01:48:28,410 But then when you zoom in, it 3963 01:48:28,410 --> 01:48:30,440 does, it looks like a dog is on 3964 01:48:30,440 --> 01:48:32,820 the back of a human. Like, that's 3965 01:48:32,820 --> 01:48:34,190 the human there using the 3966 01:48:34,190 --> 01:48:35,810 computer. And then it's got 3967 01:48:35,810 --> 01:48:37,620 like a little dog on its back. 3968 01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:40,920 More will be revealed, I 3969 01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:42,810 imagine, I hope, as the scene 3970 01:48:42,810 --> 01:48:43,660 unwinds. 3971 01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:45,540 For those of us who are 3972 01:48:45,540 --> 01:48:47,240 familiar with the concept of 3973 01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:49,000 portal sites and who have seen 3974 01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:50,830 the likes of Yahoo and AOL and 3975 01:48:50,830 --> 01:48:52,040 Excite, how would you 3976 01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:53,780 differentiate what Excite is 3977 01:48:53,780 --> 01:48:55,540 doing compared to Yahoo, for 3978 01:48:55,540 --> 01:48:56,520 example? 3979 01:48:56,720 --> 01:48:58,540 I'd really focus on two areas. 3980 01:48:58,540 --> 01:48:59,870 Those areas are personalization 3981 01:48:59,870 --> 01:49:00,660 and community. 3982 01:49:01,340 --> 01:49:02,200 So personalization is the 3983 01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:03,880 notion that you can make a web 3984 01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:05,850 experience that's entirely your 3985 01:49:05,850 --> 01:49:06,360 own. 3986 01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:07,220 Crouser. 3987 01:49:07,220 --> 01:49:08,370 Remember, each time you come 3988 01:49:08,370 --> 01:49:09,390 back and you decide what that's 3989 01:49:09,390 --> 01:49:10,490 going to look like. And then 3990 01:49:10,490 --> 01:49:11,480 community, the notion of 3991 01:49:11,480 --> 01:49:12,650 interacting with other people 3992 01:49:12,650 --> 01:49:13,100 online. 3993 01:49:13,300 --> 01:49:14,740 The Crousemeister. 3994 01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:16,300 One thing that I find extremely 3995 01:49:16,300 --> 01:49:17,870 frustrating with sites is that 3996 01:49:17,870 --> 01:49:19,480 in order for me to personalize, 3997 01:49:19,480 --> 01:49:20,740 I have to go through all of 3998 01:49:20,740 --> 01:49:22,180 these screens and it takes me 3999 01:49:22,180 --> 01:49:23,520 lots of time to do that. 4000 01:49:24,020 --> 01:49:25,110 So I'm not completely convinced 4001 01:49:25,110 --> 01:49:26,650 that personalization is what I 4002 01:49:26,650 --> 01:49:28,260 want. Why? Are you doing 4003 01:49:28,260 --> 01:49:30,410 anything that makes it more palatable 4004 01:49:30,410 --> 01:49:31,000 for me? 4005 01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:32,040 Well, one of the ways we 4006 01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:33,310 differentiate ourselves in 4007 01:49:33,310 --> 01:49:34,570 personalization is the fact 4008 01:49:34,570 --> 01:49:35,780 that we do something called 4009 01:49:35,780 --> 01:49:37,260 creeping personalization. 4010 01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:37,920 Creeping. 4011 01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:39,530 I know it sounds bad, but it 4012 01:49:39,530 --> 01:49:40,940 makes it a lot easier. 4013 01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:42,010 Is this a geek term? This is 4014 01:49:42,010 --> 01:49:42,520 creeping. 4015 01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:42,900 No. 4016 01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:44,440 It's going to be okay. Don't 4017 01:49:44,440 --> 01:49:45,460 worry about it. 4018 01:49:45,460 --> 01:49:46,120 It's just a Joe term. 4019 01:49:46,140 --> 01:49:46,940 All right, all right, all right. 4020 01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:48,740 Well, creeping personalization... 4021 01:49:48,740 --> 01:49:49,850 They could have called it 4022 01:49:49,850 --> 01:49:51,350 something better. All right, 4023 01:49:51,350 --> 01:49:52,880 all right. It's just a Joe term, 4024 01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:53,500 he says. 4025 01:49:54,440 --> 01:49:55,190 Personalization. I know it 4026 01:49:55,190 --> 01:49:56,060 sounds bad. 4027 01:49:56,180 --> 01:49:57,370 It sounds bad, but it's really, 4028 01:49:57,370 --> 01:49:58,520 it makes it a lot easier. 4029 01:49:58,740 --> 01:49:59,530 Is this a geek term? This is 4030 01:49:59,530 --> 01:50:00,080 creeping. 4031 01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:00,420 No. 4032 01:50:00,540 --> 01:50:00,900 Oh, okay. 4033 01:50:00,900 --> 01:50:01,740 It's just a Joe term. 4034 01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:02,520 All right, all right, all right. 4035 01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:03,340 A Joe term. 4036 01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:04,710 Well, creeping personalization 4037 01:50:04,710 --> 01:50:05,850 is most sites require you to 4038 01:50:05,850 --> 01:50:06,970 fill out this huge form before 4039 01:50:06,970 --> 01:50:08,070 you even get to see what your 4040 01:50:08,070 --> 01:50:09,500 personalized page looks like. 4041 01:50:09,500 --> 01:50:10,430 It drives me crazy. It drives a 4042 01:50:10,430 --> 01:50:11,740 lot of people crazy. And so 4043 01:50:11,740 --> 01:50:13,160 what we did instead is we give 4044 01:50:13,160 --> 01:50:14,630 you a default page, a page that 4045 01:50:14,630 --> 01:50:16,020 has news, stock, sports, 4046 01:50:16,020 --> 01:50:17,240 weather, horoscope. 4047 01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:18,540 May not be personalized to you. 4048 01:50:18,540 --> 01:50:19,300 Don't worry about it. 4049 01:50:19,300 --> 01:50:20,080 It gives you a sense of what 4050 01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:21,160 you're going to see. And then 4051 01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:22,130 beyond that, in order to 4052 01:50:22,130 --> 01:50:23,450 personalize, we don't require 4053 01:50:23,450 --> 01:50:24,580 you to fill out a big form. 4054 01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:25,980 Give us your zip code today and 4055 01:50:25,980 --> 01:50:27,090 we'll give you personalized 4056 01:50:27,090 --> 01:50:28,420 weather, personalized sports 4057 01:50:28,420 --> 01:50:29,590 course. Give us your birthday 4058 01:50:29,590 --> 01:50:30,650 the next day, we'll give you a 4059 01:50:30,650 --> 01:50:31,800 personalized horoscope. 4060 01:50:32,180 --> 01:50:33,130 So again, the notion is you can 4061 01:50:33,130 --> 01:50:34,130 give just little bits of 4062 01:50:34,130 --> 01:50:35,350 information at a time, go at 4063 01:50:35,350 --> 01:50:36,730 your own pace. It makes it much 4064 01:50:36,730 --> 01:50:38,000 easier to personalize. 4065 01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:38,940 So through experience, I can 4066 01:50:38,940 --> 01:50:39,880 basically learn what it is. 4067 01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:40,940 Well, I didn't like it this way. 4068 01:50:40,940 --> 01:50:41,820 I might want to change it. I 4069 01:50:41,820 --> 01:50:42,900 can tweak it over time. 4070 01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:43,900 Go at your own pace. See what 4071 01:50:43,900 --> 01:50:44,920 you're going to get before you 4072 01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:45,590 even have to give any 4073 01:50:45,590 --> 01:50:46,320 information. 4074 01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:47,780 So now, portal sites, when I 4075 01:50:47,780 --> 01:50:49,120 think about them, I think about 4076 01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:50,270 chat rooms. I think about 4077 01:50:50,270 --> 01:50:51,700 search engines. I think about 4078 01:50:51,700 --> 01:50:52,220 free mail. 4079 01:50:53,420 --> 01:50:54,570 When you think about chat rooms, 4080 01:50:54,570 --> 01:50:56,760 you think about what? Search 4081 01:50:56,760 --> 01:50:59,440 engines, free mail. And you don't 4082 01:50:59,440 --> 01:51:00,980 tend to think about the... 4083 01:51:00,980 --> 01:51:01,860 Maybe even personalized 4084 01:51:01,860 --> 01:51:03,960 homepage. Personalized homepage 4085 01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:04,940 community. 4086 01:51:05,260 --> 01:51:06,140 Are you doing all of those 4087 01:51:06,140 --> 01:51:07,580 things? Are you focusing on a 4088 01:51:07,580 --> 01:51:09,140 small number of those things? 4089 01:51:09,300 --> 01:51:10,350 Well, three of the four things 4090 01:51:10,350 --> 01:51:11,570 you mentioned there are really 4091 01:51:11,570 --> 01:51:12,940 around this notion of community, 4092 01:51:12,940 --> 01:51:14,160 which is about people using the 4093 01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:15,270 internet to connect with one 4094 01:51:15,270 --> 01:51:16,180 another online. 4095 01:51:16,300 --> 01:51:17,300 And typically, the word 4096 01:51:17,300 --> 01:51:18,550 community means chat and email 4097 01:51:18,550 --> 01:51:19,880 and bulletin boards and instant 4098 01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:21,420 messaging. All things that we 4099 01:51:21,420 --> 01:51:22,960 offer. All stuff that consumers 4100 01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:23,400 love. 4101 01:51:23,660 --> 01:51:24,510 We're trying to take it to the 4102 01:51:24,510 --> 01:51:25,680 next level with a product that 4103 01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:27,360 we actually call Excite Communities. 4104 01:51:27,420 --> 01:51:28,660 And what that is, is chat is 4105 01:51:28,660 --> 01:51:29,830 like a cocktail party of 4106 01:51:29,830 --> 01:51:31,420 thousands, where it's great for 4107 01:51:31,420 --> 01:51:32,830 meeting people, but it's not 4108 01:51:32,830 --> 01:51:34,390 very good for having meaningful 4109 01:51:34,390 --> 01:51:35,400 discussions. 4110 01:51:36,220 --> 01:51:36,770 That's very unlike an intimate 4111 01:51:36,770 --> 01:51:38,050 dinner party, where you can 4112 01:51:38,050 --> 01:51:39,420 control who's coming to that 4113 01:51:39,420 --> 01:51:40,630 dinner party and control the 4114 01:51:40,630 --> 01:51:41,960 topic of conversation. 4115 01:51:42,280 --> 01:51:43,150 Excite Communities is much more 4116 01:51:43,150 --> 01:51:44,480 like the intimate dinner party. 4117 01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:46,400 Okay, so can you explain to me 4118 01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:47,650 what I... I'll take it a step 4119 01:51:47,650 --> 01:51:48,000 further. 4120 01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:49,640 Walk me down the path. 4121 01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:50,060 Certainly. 4122 01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:52,420 She's like, it sounds shit. 4123 01:51:52,540 --> 01:51:53,570 Can you try and make it sound 4124 01:51:53,570 --> 01:51:54,040 better? 4125 01:51:54,380 --> 01:51:55,420 Excite Communities is... 4126 01:51:55,420 --> 01:51:57,720 Mom's snaps of Joe. 4127 01:51:58,220 --> 01:51:59,880 So maybe that's his... 4128 01:51:59,880 --> 01:52:00,840 Maybe he's called Joe, this 4129 01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:01,160 fella. 4130 01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:02,750 Because he said it's kind of a 4131 01:52:02,750 --> 01:52:03,480 Joe term. 4132 01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:04,660 You know, the creep. 4133 01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:05,740 The creep and stuff. 4134 01:52:06,580 --> 01:52:07,340 You and I could set up a 4135 01:52:07,340 --> 01:52:07,880 community. 4136 01:52:08,300 --> 01:52:09,210 And only you and I could get 4137 01:52:09,210 --> 01:52:10,500 into that community. 4138 01:52:10,920 --> 01:52:11,350 And once we're in that 4139 01:52:11,350 --> 01:52:12,480 community, we could share a 4140 01:52:12,480 --> 01:52:13,120 calendar. 4141 01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:14,190 You could post where you're 4142 01:52:14,190 --> 01:52:15,260 going on that calendar. 4143 01:52:15,420 --> 01:52:15,540 I could post... 4144 01:52:15,540 --> 01:52:16,150 So you can collaborate with 4145 01:52:16,150 --> 01:52:16,580 somebody else. 4146 01:52:16,580 --> 01:52:16,980 Absolutely. 4147 01:52:16,980 --> 01:52:17,560 Okay, I got you. 4148 01:52:17,740 --> 01:52:19,200 You can share an address book 4149 01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:20,760 of relevant contacts for each 4150 01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:21,260 of us. 4151 01:52:21,340 --> 01:52:22,340 We can share photo albums. 4152 01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:23,600 So it's great for families who 4153 01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:24,750 are maybe spread across the 4154 01:52:24,750 --> 01:52:25,800 country as a way to stay in 4155 01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:26,320 touch. 4156 01:52:26,620 --> 01:52:27,820 It's great for small businesses 4157 01:52:27,820 --> 01:52:28,870 that maybe need to have 4158 01:52:28,870 --> 01:52:30,250 multiple people in the office 4159 01:52:30,250 --> 01:52:30,880 coordinate 4160 01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:32,180 around a calendar or an address 4161 01:52:32,180 --> 01:52:32,560 book. 4162 01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:34,220 It's even great for events. 4163 01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:35,940 If you're planning a wedding, 4164 01:52:35,940 --> 01:52:37,520 one thing you could do is have 4165 01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:39,250 the address book of hotels near 4166 01:52:39,250 --> 01:52:40,500 where your event is going to be 4167 01:52:40,500 --> 01:52:41,860 or a calendar of all the events 4168 01:52:41,860 --> 01:52:43,220 leading up to the wedding. 4169 01:52:43,440 --> 01:52:44,950 So when I think about a great 4170 01:52:44,950 --> 01:52:47,060 portal site for personalization 4171 01:52:47,060 --> 01:52:49,340 and community, Excite.com. 4172 01:52:49,460 --> 01:52:49,860 Absolutely. 4173 01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:52,440 For URLs of today's featured 4174 01:52:52,440 --> 01:52:54,990 websites, just go to the Net 4175 01:52:54,990 --> 01:52:57,640 Cafe site at CNPTV.com. 4176 01:52:58,840 --> 01:53:00,070 Well, Charles, you have founded 4177 01:53:00,070 --> 01:53:01,720 CitySearch.com. 4178 01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:02,720 CitySearch.com. 4179 01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:09,800 Lovely spring-loaded stew. 4180 01:53:13,060 --> 01:53:14,540 It's cheeky. 4181 01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:21,950 Well, Charles, you have founded 4182 01:53:21,950 --> 01:53:30,200 CitySearch.com, which is what? 4183 01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:32,080 CitySearch is where to go and 4184 01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:33,480 what to do in your community. 4185 01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:35,200 It helps people find more out 4186 01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:37,000 about their city in areas like 4187 01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:38,580 arts and entertainment, 4188 01:53:38,580 --> 01:53:40,380 community, recreation, or 4189 01:53:40,380 --> 01:53:41,300 shopping. 4190 01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:42,360 All right, so it's really kind 4191 01:53:42,360 --> 01:53:43,470 of a collection of sites then, 4192 01:53:43,470 --> 01:53:44,490 depending on what city you live 4193 01:53:44,490 --> 01:53:44,820 in? 4194 01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:46,300 Actually, most of CitySearch 4195 01:53:46,300 --> 01:53:47,840 has created original content by 4196 01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:49,260 our own editorial team rather 4197 01:53:49,260 --> 01:53:50,820 than a compilation of links. 4198 01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:52,280 All right, so say we're in the 4199 01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:53,670 Bay Area right now, and I want 4200 01:53:53,670 --> 01:53:55,160 to find out what's going on. 4201 01:53:55,220 --> 01:53:56,640 Is that why I would go to CitySearch? 4202 01:53:56,740 --> 01:53:57,810 Find out what's going on, what's 4203 01:53:57,810 --> 01:53:58,690 there to do tonight, and 4204 01:53:58,690 --> 01:53:59,380 restaurants? 4205 01:53:59,620 --> 01:53:59,940 Absolutely. 4206 01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:01,900 CitySearch has 500 Italian 4207 01:54:01,900 --> 01:54:03,300 restaurants online. 4208 01:54:03,440 --> 01:54:04,180 We have every movie. 4209 01:54:04,180 --> 01:54:04,740 Just for San Francisco? 4210 01:54:05,100 --> 01:54:05,420 Absolutely. 4211 01:54:05,620 --> 01:54:05,840 All right. 4212 01:54:05,980 --> 01:54:06,870 Every bit of theater, 4213 01:54:06,870 --> 01:54:08,260 recreation, including mountain 4214 01:54:08,260 --> 01:54:09,470 biking, pretty much anything 4215 01:54:09,470 --> 01:54:10,590 you might want to do out in the 4216 01:54:10,590 --> 01:54:11,620 San Francisco area. 4217 01:54:11,700 --> 01:54:12,700 Now, we're sort of talking 4218 01:54:12,700 --> 01:54:14,000 about portals in this show. 4219 01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:15,110 Do you think of CitySearch as a 4220 01:54:15,110 --> 01:54:16,140 portal, a kind of starting 4221 01:54:16,140 --> 01:54:17,110 point where if I live in the 4222 01:54:17,110 --> 01:54:18,210 Bay Area, I could go there and 4223 01:54:18,210 --> 01:54:19,190 find out anything I needed 4224 01:54:19,190 --> 01:54:20,180 through CitySearch? 4225 01:54:20,460 --> 01:54:21,420 Yeah, portal's a funny word. 4226 01:54:21,500 --> 01:54:22,980 I think CitySearch is a local 4227 01:54:22,980 --> 01:54:23,600 portal. 4228 01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:24,940 We help people organize their 4229 01:54:24,940 --> 01:54:25,920 local experience. 4230 01:54:26,060 --> 01:54:27,150 I think geography is the most 4231 01:54:27,150 --> 01:54:28,610 important organizing principle 4232 01:54:28,610 --> 01:54:30,130 for people's behavior, and that's 4233 01:54:30,130 --> 01:54:31,460 what CitySearch is about. 4234 01:54:31,460 --> 01:54:32,550 Well, that's funny because we 4235 01:54:32,550 --> 01:54:33,770 think of the net as anti-geography 4236 01:54:33,770 --> 01:54:34,240 in a way. 4237 01:54:34,300 --> 01:54:35,200 The whole bit of the net is you 4238 01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:36,180 can be talking to somebody 4239 01:54:36,180 --> 01:54:37,180 across the street or around the 4240 01:54:37,180 --> 01:54:38,150 world, and it's all the same 4241 01:54:38,150 --> 01:54:39,280 thing, but you're saying, no, 4242 01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:40,300 where you are... 4243 01:54:40,300 --> 01:54:42,350 These towels for your session 4244 01:54:42,350 --> 01:54:44,450 in Cybersmith at the back, or 4245 01:54:44,450 --> 01:54:46,210 maybe they're shirts and 4246 01:54:46,210 --> 01:54:48,520 merchandise, I'm not sure. 4247 01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:51,240 But it could be hot inside that 4248 01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:53,100 net caffeine, Cybersmith. 4249 01:54:53,100 --> 01:54:53,950 Physically, really still 4250 01:54:53,950 --> 01:54:54,820 matters even on the web. 4251 01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:56,290 People spend 95% of their time 4252 01:54:56,290 --> 01:54:58,010 and their money within 10 or 15 4253 01:54:58,010 --> 01:54:59,080 miles of their homes. 4254 01:54:59,460 --> 01:55:00,280 It's still the most relevant 4255 01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:01,060 thing for them. 4256 01:55:01,540 --> 01:55:02,030 All right, now, if I go on to 4257 01:55:02,030 --> 01:55:03,140 CitySearch, let's say we're in 4258 01:55:03,140 --> 01:55:04,120 San Francisco, what are the 4259 01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:05,420 kinds of things I could find? 4260 01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:06,690 Is it just the what's going on 4261 01:55:06,690 --> 01:55:07,980 stuff, or is there more? 4262 01:55:08,140 --> 01:55:09,100 No, actually quite a bit more. 4263 01:55:09,100 --> 01:55:09,980 There's a sauna in the back. 4264 01:55:09,980 --> 01:55:11,110 It would include quite a bit of 4265 01:55:11,110 --> 01:55:12,290 dense information on what's 4266 01:55:12,290 --> 01:55:13,480 happening in your community. 4267 01:55:13,860 --> 01:55:14,780 In some of our cities, we have 4268 01:55:14,780 --> 01:55:15,680 school lunches. 4269 01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:17,620 We have church sermons. 4270 01:55:17,620 --> 01:55:19,650 We have sales and coupons, what's 4271 01:55:19,650 --> 01:55:21,530 happening in the city, as well 4272 01:55:21,530 --> 01:55:22,640 as recreation. 4273 01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:23,480 So it's not just arts and 4274 01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:24,240 entertainment. 4275 01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:25,720 Really dense, what's happening 4276 01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:26,730 in the city, but in a much 4277 01:55:26,730 --> 01:55:28,320 broader sense than just aiming. 4278 01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:29,980 Now, I haven't noticed a lot of 4279 01:55:29,980 --> 01:55:31,200 ads in CitySearch. 4280 01:55:31,300 --> 01:55:32,210 I mean, what's the business 4281 01:55:32,210 --> 01:55:32,760 model here? 4282 01:55:32,860 --> 01:55:33,700 Yeah, the business model is 4283 01:55:33,700 --> 01:55:34,680 different from most Internet 4284 01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:35,200 companies. 4285 01:55:35,420 --> 01:55:36,460 We sell sites to small and 4286 01:55:36,460 --> 01:55:38,400 medium-sized businesses, full 4287 01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:39,710 interactive sites, and then we 4288 01:55:39,710 --> 01:55:40,840 host them in this high-traffic 4289 01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:41,400 environment. 4290 01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:42,760 All right, so your content is 4291 01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:44,240 coming primarily from partners 4292 01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:45,480 in each of these cities. 4293 01:55:45,580 --> 01:55:46,120 Is that the deal? 4294 01:55:46,500 --> 01:55:47,890 Our content comes from partners 4295 01:55:47,890 --> 01:55:48,880 in some cities. 4296 01:55:49,060 --> 01:55:49,980 Like newspapers? 4297 01:55:50,340 --> 01:55:50,460 Yeah. 4298 01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:51,950 We're partnered with the LA 4299 01:55:51,950 --> 01:55:53,580 Times in LA or Washington Post 4300 01:55:53,580 --> 01:55:54,600 in Washington. 4301 01:55:55,060 --> 01:55:55,680 In other cities, we own and 4302 01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:57,020 operate the city ourselves, and 4303 01:55:57,020 --> 01:55:58,210 the content comes from our own 4304 01:55:58,210 --> 01:55:59,180 editorial team. 4305 01:55:59,620 --> 01:56:00,770 All right, how many cities does 4306 01:56:00,770 --> 01:56:02,080 CitySearch cover at the moment? 4307 01:56:02,220 --> 01:56:03,660 We're in 18 cities that are 4308 01:56:03,660 --> 01:56:05,060 either up or underway, and 4309 01:56:05,060 --> 01:56:06,780 those include cities in Europe, 4310 01:56:06,780 --> 01:56:08,420 in Scandinavia, in Canada, as 4311 01:56:08,420 --> 01:56:10,040 well as the South Pacific. 4312 01:56:10,040 --> 01:56:11,650 How big does a city have to be 4313 01:56:11,650 --> 01:56:13,170 to economically get it to be a 4314 01:56:13,170 --> 01:56:14,440 CitySearch city? 4315 01:56:14,580 --> 01:56:15,630 I think you're not going to get 4316 01:56:15,630 --> 01:56:17,220 below the top 25 or something? 4317 01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:18,320 Actually, we think we can get 4318 01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:19,320 smaller than that, although we 4319 01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:20,360 don't really know for sure. 4320 01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:21,680 Today, the smallest CitySearch 4321 01:56:21,680 --> 01:56:23,600 city is about 750,000 people. 4322 01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:24,840 There are many attractive 4323 01:56:24,840 --> 01:56:25,380 cities. 4324 01:56:25,820 --> 01:56:27,520 CitySearch still exists, 4325 01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:28,460 Matthew. 4326 01:56:28,740 --> 01:56:32,240 Is it CitySearch.com? 4327 01:56:33,740 --> 01:56:34,410 You get below the smallest 350 4328 01:56:34,410 --> 01:56:36,180 or 500,000. 4329 01:56:36,500 --> 01:56:37,570 You've got some competition out 4330 01:56:37,570 --> 01:56:38,040 there. 4331 01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:38,870 There are other people sort of 4332 01:56:38,870 --> 01:56:39,640 doing similar things. 4333 01:56:40,580 --> 01:56:42,220 What's distinctive about CitySearch? 4334 01:56:42,700 --> 01:56:44,070 CitySearch is genuinely created 4335 01:56:44,070 --> 01:56:44,780 locally. 4336 01:56:45,100 --> 01:56:46,460 It's not a hodgepodge of links 4337 01:56:46,460 --> 01:56:47,760 to other people's sites. 4338 01:56:48,220 --> 01:56:49,480 It's created by local editors. 4339 01:56:51,540 --> 01:56:54,920 Is CitySearch all one word? 4340 01:56:58,640 --> 01:56:59,980 Design for this medium. 4341 01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:02,840 CitySearch stories. 4342 01:57:14,340 --> 01:57:15,970 That's a bit of a downgrade 4343 01:57:15,970 --> 01:57:17,550 there, unless you go into a 4344 01:57:17,550 --> 01:57:18,880 particular city. 4345 01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:21,330 I was hoping to see more than 4346 01:57:21,330 --> 01:57:22,120 that. 4347 01:57:22,640 --> 01:57:24,530 But as you said there, it looks 4348 01:57:24,530 --> 01:57:25,320 shite. 4349 01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:28,400 It's more of like a rubbish 4350 01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:31,380 kind of directory now. 4351 01:57:32,540 --> 01:57:34,670 Whereas back in its heyday, it 4352 01:57:34,670 --> 01:57:36,670 was really, really something 4353 01:57:36,670 --> 01:57:37,320 else. 4354 01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:38,980 As you can see, a lot of work 4355 01:57:38,980 --> 01:57:40,900 has gone into that website. 4356 01:57:40,900 --> 01:57:42,840 Involving local people. 4357 01:57:43,540 --> 01:57:44,300 Hall of stats. 4358 01:57:44,300 --> 01:57:46,120 Including local media companies. 4359 01:57:46,500 --> 01:57:47,110 Most of the other folks 4360 01:57:47,110 --> 01:57:48,540 actually try and create their 4361 01:57:48,540 --> 01:57:49,470 sites from some central 4362 01:57:49,470 --> 01:57:50,120 location. 4363 01:57:50,660 --> 01:57:51,490 Is there a sort of community 4364 01:57:51,490 --> 01:57:53,480 building aspect also to CitySearch? 4365 01:57:53,480 --> 01:57:54,400 Is there chat? 4366 01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:55,950 Are there classifieds and stuff 4367 01:57:55,950 --> 01:57:56,640 like that? 4368 01:57:56,700 --> 01:57:57,180 Yeah, absolutely. 4369 01:57:57,420 --> 01:57:58,040 In fact, there's a lot of 4370 01:57:58,040 --> 01:57:59,100 community in CitySearch. 4371 01:57:59,220 --> 01:58:01,240 We have, in San Francisco alone, 4372 01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:03,670 1,200 community partners who 4373 01:58:03,670 --> 01:58:05,700 put up their calendar of events 4374 01:58:05,700 --> 01:58:06,620 or their newsletter. 4375 01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:07,770 Pretty much anything that's 4376 01:58:07,770 --> 01:58:08,720 happening in those local 4377 01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:09,620 community groups. 4378 01:58:09,620 --> 01:58:10,410 There, the geography really 4379 01:58:10,410 --> 01:58:11,260 doesn't make a lot of sense. 4380 01:58:11,340 --> 01:58:12,120 You want to talk to people you 4381 01:58:12,120 --> 01:58:12,900 can really deal with. 4382 01:58:12,900 --> 01:58:13,120 Exactly. 4383 01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:13,840 Not somebody in Europe 4384 01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:14,340 somewhere. 4385 01:58:14,340 --> 01:58:15,570 From the Omega Boys Club to the 4386 01:58:15,570 --> 01:58:16,140 Easter Seals. 4387 01:58:16,140 --> 01:58:24,480 The Omega Boys Club to the 4388 01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:30,080 Easter Seals. 4389 01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:32,880 The Easter Seals. 4390 01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:39,240 Omega Boys Club. 4391 01:58:39,300 --> 01:58:40,340 I don't want to search that. 4392 01:58:41,180 --> 01:58:42,740 Easter Seals. 4393 01:58:44,020 --> 01:58:45,170 I don't know if I want to 4394 01:58:45,170 --> 01:58:46,660 search the Easter Seals. 4395 01:58:49,300 --> 01:58:49,520 Easter Seals Disability and 4396 01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:51,940 Community Services. 4397 01:58:53,120 --> 01:58:54,220 Omega Boys. 4398 01:59:00,340 --> 01:59:04,780 Websites? 4399 01:59:04,780 --> 01:59:07,060 At cnptv.com. 4400 01:59:08,260 --> 01:59:10,330 David, Hotbot is a great search 4401 01:59:10,330 --> 01:59:11,460 engine. 4402 01:59:11,500 --> 01:59:11,980 Hotbot. 4403 01:59:13,980 --> 01:59:14,840 Got a hotbot. 4404 01:59:14,940 --> 01:59:16,840 What is it about Hotbot that's 4405 01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:18,360 made it so popular? 4406 01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:20,510 That was an interesting push in 4407 01:59:20,510 --> 01:59:21,980 and then zoom out. 4408 01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:24,360 One example of it. 4409 01:59:24,740 --> 01:59:26,270 What is it about Hotbot that's 4410 01:59:26,270 --> 01:59:27,660 in lots of awards? 4411 01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:28,540 Started there. 4412 01:59:28,540 --> 01:59:29,440 One example of it. 4413 01:59:29,780 --> 01:59:31,600 What is it about Hotbot that's 4414 01:59:31,600 --> 01:59:33,220 made it so popular? 4415 01:59:33,580 --> 01:59:35,120 And it's just teasing us here. 4416 01:59:35,180 --> 01:59:36,370 We don't know what he looks 4417 01:59:36,370 --> 01:59:37,770 like yet, but we're going to 4418 01:59:37,770 --> 01:59:38,820 get a reverse angle. 4419 01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:40,020 I'm sure of that. 4420 01:59:41,020 --> 01:59:41,180 Yes. 4421 01:59:41,700 --> 01:59:42,760 You're so. 4422 01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:44,040 And there we have it. 4423 01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:45,500 The focus of what we do at Hotbot 4424 01:59:45,500 --> 01:59:45,940 is to. 4425 01:59:46,120 --> 01:59:48,460 David underscore Pritchard. 4426 01:59:48,820 --> 01:59:49,480 Ladies and gentlemen. 4427 01:59:51,280 --> 01:59:51,410 Focus on the idea of providing 4428 01:59:51,410 --> 01:59:53,090 a better and better search 4429 01:59:53,090 --> 01:59:54,640 service for people. 4430 01:59:55,360 --> 01:59:56,870 And that's been our focus since 4431 01:59:56,870 --> 01:59:57,680 launch. 4432 01:59:58,360 --> 01:59:59,420 We concentrate on providing 4433 01:59:59,420 --> 02:00:00,660 people with the most 4434 02:00:00,660 --> 02:00:02,640 comprehensive database of the 4435 02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:03,060 web. 4436 02:00:03,540 --> 02:00:04,050 That means providing people 4437 02:00:04,050 --> 02:00:04,610 with the most comprehensive web 4438 02:00:04,610 --> 02:00:04,840 pages. 4439 02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:06,040 He might have even been on it 4440 02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:06,580 before. 4441 02:00:06,760 --> 02:00:08,020 As many web pages as we can. 4442 02:00:08,200 --> 02:00:09,270 We provide an index of about 4443 02:00:09,270 --> 02:00:10,780 110 million web pages. 4444 02:00:11,220 --> 02:00:12,470 Whereas other search engines 4445 02:00:12,470 --> 02:00:14,480 index smaller slices of the web. 4446 02:00:14,860 --> 02:00:16,420 But more than that, we focus on 4447 02:00:16,420 --> 02:00:18,040 the detail that we index of 4448 02:00:18,040 --> 02:00:19,280 those web pages. 4449 02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:20,960 What that means that we can do 4450 02:00:20,960 --> 02:00:22,900 is allow people to refine their 4451 02:00:22,900 --> 02:00:24,760 search much more accurately. 4452 02:00:25,820 --> 02:00:26,530 For instance, if you were 4453 02:00:26,530 --> 02:00:28,870 looking for information on iMac, 4454 02:00:28,870 --> 02:00:31,040 you could start by searching on 4455 02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:31,640 iMac. 4456 02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:33,270 But if you wanted recent 4457 02:00:33,270 --> 02:00:35,380 information, you could bring a 4458 02:00:35,380 --> 02:00:36,870 couple of interesting 4459 02:00:36,870 --> 02:00:38,810 situations at the back of the 4460 02:00:38,810 --> 02:00:39,740 room here. 4461 02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:43,100 A bit of a ponytail greaser 4462 02:00:43,100 --> 02:00:44,480 with a suit on. 4463 02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:47,410 Don't know what his game is or 4464 02:00:47,410 --> 02:00:49,460 what he's about. 4465 02:00:51,840 --> 02:00:52,000 Maybe they're from the 4466 02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:53,410 university because this would 4467 02:00:53,410 --> 02:00:56,020 have been near enough Stanford. 4468 02:00:56,020 --> 02:00:58,010 I think it's near Stanford 4469 02:00:58,010 --> 02:01:00,490 University Cybersmith Cafe in 4470 02:01:00,490 --> 02:01:01,420 Palo Alto. 4471 02:01:02,420 --> 02:01:04,210 So you'd have a varying and 4472 02:01:04,210 --> 02:01:07,910 wide array of tech, you know, 4473 02:01:07,910 --> 02:01:10,180 types coming in here. 4474 02:01:11,180 --> 02:01:11,780 These are all the guys that are 4475 02:01:11,780 --> 02:01:13,430 probably really rich now, you 4476 02:01:13,430 --> 02:01:15,380 know, the tech titans of today. 4477 02:01:16,420 --> 02:01:18,780 These were up and coming lads. 4478 02:01:19,920 --> 02:01:20,560 And he's got like a little file 4479 02:01:20,560 --> 02:01:22,350 effects or briefcase with him 4480 02:01:22,350 --> 02:01:23,080 as well. 4481 02:01:24,620 --> 02:01:24,930 If you wanted recent 4482 02:01:24,930 --> 02:01:26,210 information, you could, for 4483 02:01:26,210 --> 02:01:28,210 instance, say, I only want web 4484 02:01:28,210 --> 02:01:29,980 pages that were updated in the 4485 02:01:29,980 --> 02:01:31,360 past 21 days. 4486 02:01:32,020 --> 02:01:33,200 You can easily do that on Hotbot 4487 02:01:33,200 --> 02:01:34,860 using pull-down menus. 4488 02:01:35,020 --> 02:01:36,020 So you don't need to know 4489 02:01:36,020 --> 02:01:37,590 complex Boolean instructions to 4490 02:01:37,590 --> 02:01:39,240 construct that sort of query. 4491 02:01:39,240 --> 02:01:41,500 Of the high stools. 4492 02:01:42,900 --> 02:01:44,240 And look at all the rigging of 4493 02:01:44,240 --> 02:01:47,250 the equipment that needed to be 4494 02:01:47,250 --> 02:01:48,120 done. 4495 02:01:48,260 --> 02:01:49,610 They make it look like it's a 4496 02:01:49,610 --> 02:01:51,150 nice ad hoc situation, but a 4497 02:01:51,150 --> 02:01:52,620 lot of work went into it. 4498 02:01:52,620 --> 02:01:56,120 It looks so natural here. 4499 02:01:56,120 --> 02:01:57,120 At least for me is that I get a 4500 02:01:57,120 --> 02:01:57,780 lot of... 4501 02:01:57,780 --> 02:01:59,430 And as you can see, a couple of 4502 02:01:59,430 --> 02:02:00,440 cyber guides. 4503 02:02:01,240 --> 02:02:02,970 Blue shirted cyber guides 4504 02:02:02,970 --> 02:02:05,940 escaping into a side hatch. 4505 02:02:06,060 --> 02:02:07,810 I mean, I often say side hatch 4506 02:02:07,810 --> 02:02:08,340 a lot. 4507 02:02:08,420 --> 02:02:10,260 You might say, you know, you 4508 02:02:10,260 --> 02:02:11,440 don't... 4509 02:02:11,440 --> 02:02:13,030 It doesn't really warrant the 4510 02:02:13,030 --> 02:02:14,490 usage of the word side hatch 4511 02:02:14,490 --> 02:02:15,920 when you do use it a lot. 4512 02:02:17,280 --> 02:02:18,480 But this really is a side hatch 4513 02:02:18,480 --> 02:02:20,930 situation because you see it 4514 02:02:20,930 --> 02:02:22,120 flip open. 4515 02:02:22,120 --> 02:02:22,810 That's one of the big things 4516 02:02:22,810 --> 02:02:23,500 about search engines. 4517 02:02:23,500 --> 02:02:24,000 At least for me is that I get a 4518 02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:24,380 lot of... 4519 02:02:24,380 --> 02:02:24,880 A couple of cyber guides. 4520 02:02:24,880 --> 02:02:25,720 I get a lot of... 4521 02:02:25,720 --> 02:02:26,480 Then go through. 4522 02:02:26,820 --> 02:02:28,010 He's after putting a fucking 4523 02:02:28,010 --> 02:02:29,080 note on his back. 4524 02:02:29,660 --> 02:02:30,980 Do you know, as a joke, maybe? 4525 02:02:31,640 --> 02:02:32,160 See that? 4526 02:02:34,020 --> 02:02:35,390 Is that like an Easter egg for 4527 02:02:35,390 --> 02:02:37,340 us to witness? 4528 02:02:37,640 --> 02:02:38,940 Do you know, with the I'm 4529 02:02:38,940 --> 02:02:40,610 stupid written on a disc or 4530 02:02:40,610 --> 02:02:42,300 something on his back? 4531 02:02:43,340 --> 02:02:43,960 Kick me. 4532 02:02:45,320 --> 02:02:46,160 I get a lot of... 4533 02:02:46,160 --> 02:02:46,360 Boom. 4534 02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:47,980 Look at that. 4535 02:02:48,240 --> 02:02:49,830 That's the cyber guides having 4536 02:02:49,830 --> 02:02:50,720 a bit of fun. 4537 02:02:50,720 --> 02:02:51,380 You know, I tell... 4538 02:02:51,380 --> 02:02:53,320 Type something in. 4539 02:02:53,680 --> 02:02:54,680 And I may not... 4540 02:02:54,680 --> 02:02:56,520 But that fun could turn nasty 4541 02:02:56,520 --> 02:02:58,410 at some stage, you know, if 4542 02:02:58,410 --> 02:02:59,230 your man doesn't know he's 4543 02:02:59,230 --> 02:02:59,480 being 4544 02:02:59,480 --> 02:03:00,280 labeled like that. 4545 02:03:00,380 --> 02:03:01,160 Use the query of... 4546 02:03:01,160 --> 02:03:04,660 Cyber bullying, says Glyn there. 4547 02:03:05,100 --> 02:03:06,360 And we've just... 4548 02:03:06,360 --> 02:03:07,820 We bore witness to it. 4549 02:03:07,840 --> 02:03:09,200 So you never really know what 4550 02:03:09,200 --> 02:03:10,540 you're likely to see here. 4551 02:03:11,120 --> 02:03:11,980 I thought it was just going to 4552 02:03:11,980 --> 02:03:13,320 be a side hatch special. 4553 02:03:13,460 --> 02:03:14,820 I'm a big fan of the side hatch. 4554 02:03:14,900 --> 02:03:15,440 You know that. 4555 02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:16,830 I'm always going on about side 4556 02:03:16,830 --> 02:03:18,400 hatch this, side hatch that. 4557 02:03:19,340 --> 02:03:21,160 But it just turns out that when 4558 02:03:21,160 --> 02:03:22,980 we do see this particular side 4559 02:03:22,980 --> 02:03:24,680 hatch incident here in the 4560 02:03:24,680 --> 02:03:26,810 background, that we have some 4561 02:03:26,810 --> 02:03:29,750 ominous cyber guide cyber 4562 02:03:29,750 --> 02:03:30,940 bullying. 4563 02:03:33,440 --> 02:03:34,040 There. 4564 02:03:34,400 --> 02:03:35,020 Look at that. 4565 02:03:35,280 --> 02:03:36,800 And it looks like it's a CD, so 4566 02:03:36,800 --> 02:03:37,720 you'd feel it. 4567 02:03:37,720 --> 02:03:38,460 But maybe it's not. 4568 02:03:38,540 --> 02:03:39,700 It's a foily sticker. 4569 02:03:42,140 --> 02:03:43,420 Onto the back hatch. 4570 02:03:43,420 --> 02:03:44,060 Something in. 4571 02:03:44,140 --> 02:03:44,960 I may not use the query 4572 02:03:44,960 --> 02:03:46,260 appropriately or use the right 4573 02:03:46,260 --> 02:03:46,840 language. 4574 02:03:47,140 --> 02:03:47,760 And did... 4575 02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:49,150 You can see there a bit of a 4576 02:03:49,150 --> 02:03:50,400 smile, a wry smile. 4577 02:03:51,840 --> 02:03:53,420 I think he or she, it's hard to 4578 02:03:53,420 --> 02:03:56,100 really decipher from this 4579 02:03:56,100 --> 02:03:57,520 distance. 4580 02:03:57,700 --> 02:04:00,200 And with that level of pixelation 4581 02:04:00,200 --> 02:04:01,240 has... 4582 02:04:01,240 --> 02:04:02,640 They know that something's up. 4583 02:04:02,940 --> 02:04:04,050 Did you just stick something on 4584 02:04:04,050 --> 02:04:04,620 me there? 4585 02:04:05,280 --> 02:04:06,960 As they were going backstage to 4586 02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:09,330 the coffee dock where there's a 4587 02:04:09,330 --> 02:04:11,750 veritable array of, you know, 4588 02:04:11,750 --> 02:04:14,070 vanilla essence and different 4589 02:04:14,070 --> 02:04:16,320 flavorings for the coffees as 4590 02:04:16,320 --> 02:04:16,980 well. 4591 02:04:16,980 --> 02:04:18,020 And then when I do, I get all 4592 02:04:18,020 --> 02:04:19,200 of this irrelevant stuff. 4593 02:04:19,200 --> 02:04:20,160 But he hasn't found out yet. 4594 02:04:20,160 --> 02:04:21,740 A lot of the features that you 4595 02:04:21,740 --> 02:04:23,240 have allow me to be much more 4596 02:04:23,240 --> 02:04:24,840 precise on my searching. 4597 02:04:25,100 --> 02:04:26,350 That's what we're trying to do 4598 02:04:26,350 --> 02:04:27,730 is to find more and more ways 4599 02:04:27,730 --> 02:04:29,820 in which we allow the user to... 4600 02:04:29,820 --> 02:04:30,920 Who's starting off with 110 4601 02:04:30,920 --> 02:04:31,560 million webpages. 4602 02:04:31,680 --> 02:04:32,420 That's a lot of webpages. 4603 02:04:32,480 --> 02:04:32,680 Right. 4604 02:04:32,860 --> 02:04:33,750 And they need to find the sort 4605 02:04:33,750 --> 02:04:34,850 of the two or three out of that 4606 02:04:34,850 --> 02:04:36,220 110 million, the two or three 4607 02:04:36,220 --> 02:04:37,340 that suit their needs. 4608 02:04:38,240 --> 02:04:40,330 And look at this slow zoom out 4609 02:04:40,330 --> 02:04:43,720 and Dutch angle combination. 4610 02:04:45,180 --> 02:04:45,620 In the advanced search page, 4611 02:04:45,620 --> 02:04:47,450 you can easily use it and pull 4612 02:04:47,450 --> 02:04:49,740 down menu that suit their needs. 4613 02:04:50,580 --> 02:04:51,040 And so, for instance, if you 4614 02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:52,460 were interested in knowing what 4615 02:04:52,460 --> 02:04:53,690 people in Africa are saying 4616 02:04:53,690 --> 02:04:54,740 about iMac... 4617 02:04:55,400 --> 02:04:56,250 What are people in Africa 4618 02:04:56,250 --> 02:04:57,600 saying about iMac? 4619 02:04:57,620 --> 02:04:58,720 You can easily use it and pull 4620 02:04:58,720 --> 02:04:59,870 down menu, search suggests 4621 02:04:59,870 --> 02:05:00,860 websites in Africa. 4622 02:05:01,180 --> 02:05:02,280 And so the combination of those 4623 02:05:02,280 --> 02:05:03,760 features, the fact that we know 4624 02:05:03,760 --> 02:05:05,170 a lot of information about 4625 02:05:05,170 --> 02:05:06,260 those pages and that we index 4626 02:05:06,260 --> 02:05:07,620 all of those pages allows us to 4627 02:05:07,620 --> 02:05:08,940 help users to quickly hone in 4628 02:05:08,940 --> 02:05:09,980 on what they do. 4629 02:05:10,220 --> 02:05:11,270 So it seems it's a combination 4630 02:05:11,270 --> 02:05:12,510 of the amount of information 4631 02:05:12,510 --> 02:05:13,900 that you're retrieving and then 4632 02:05:13,900 --> 02:05:14,860 the way in which you're 4633 02:05:14,860 --> 02:05:15,640 searching. 4634 02:05:15,920 --> 02:05:16,320 The detail. 4635 02:05:16,320 --> 02:05:17,970 So now Hotbot is really focused 4636 02:05:17,970 --> 02:05:19,120 as a search engine. 4637 02:05:19,280 --> 02:05:20,290 But, you know, the topic is 4638 02:05:20,290 --> 02:05:21,020 portal sites. 4639 02:05:21,120 --> 02:05:22,260 Would you define Hotbot as a 4640 02:05:22,260 --> 02:05:23,520 portal site or just a search 4641 02:05:23,520 --> 02:05:24,060 engine? 4642 02:05:24,200 --> 02:05:25,060 Hotbot is what one might 4643 02:05:25,060 --> 02:05:26,580 describe as a navigation portal. 4644 02:05:27,700 --> 02:05:30,100 We have some 8 million or so... 4645 02:05:30,100 --> 02:05:32,160 I remember hearing about Hotbot. 4646 02:05:33,160 --> 02:05:34,390 But I doubt it's still going 4647 02:05:34,390 --> 02:05:35,020 now. 4648 02:05:37,320 --> 02:05:37,720 Hotbot. 4649 02:05:39,060 --> 02:05:41,440 And again, it's one of those 4650 02:05:41,440 --> 02:05:45,380 risky search terms slash clicks. 4651 02:05:45,540 --> 02:05:46,190 You don't know what you're 4652 02:05:46,190 --> 02:05:46,740 going to get. 4653 02:05:46,800 --> 02:05:49,160 If that website has been decommissioned, 4654 02:05:49,160 --> 02:05:50,780 who knows what the new Hotbot 4655 02:05:50,780 --> 02:05:51,200 is. 4656 02:05:53,020 --> 02:05:54,500 It's an AI story generator, 4657 02:05:54,500 --> 02:05:55,000 look. 4658 02:05:56,080 --> 02:05:57,880 It's an AI situation. 4659 02:05:59,060 --> 02:06:00,050 See, a lot of these old domain 4660 02:06:00,050 --> 02:06:02,340 names that were popular back in 4661 02:06:02,340 --> 02:06:04,610 the day have probably just been 4662 02:06:04,610 --> 02:06:06,860 now co-opted and bought by some 4663 02:06:06,860 --> 02:06:08,220 AI business. 4664 02:06:11,980 --> 02:06:12,670 Or maybe it's just pivoted to 4665 02:06:12,670 --> 02:06:14,780 AI, look. 4666 02:06:15,980 --> 02:06:18,580 Canadian web search engine. 4667 02:06:20,580 --> 02:06:21,580 Hotbot.com. 4668 02:06:21,580 --> 02:06:25,140 Sale of the domain name. 4669 02:06:25,860 --> 02:06:28,180 In 2023, the aforementioned VPN 4670 02:06:28,180 --> 02:06:28,940 company. 4671 02:06:29,460 --> 02:06:29,980 Pivoted. 4672 02:06:30,080 --> 02:06:30,880 Didn't I tell you? 4673 02:06:31,400 --> 02:06:31,880 Pivoted. 4674 02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:32,580 Take it down. 4675 02:06:33,340 --> 02:06:35,500 Pivoted to offering an AI-based 4676 02:06:35,500 --> 02:06:37,700 web search feature. 4677 02:06:38,580 --> 02:06:40,240 Inspired by, however, not 4678 02:06:40,240 --> 02:06:43,210 officially affiliated with the 4679 02:06:43,210 --> 02:06:47,240 domain's original usage in 1996. 4680 02:06:51,020 --> 02:06:52,740 Lysos owned it. 4681 02:06:52,740 --> 02:06:55,950 Sold the fucker for 155 grand 4682 02:06:55,950 --> 02:06:58,100 to an unnamed buyer. 4683 02:06:59,700 --> 02:07:01,890 Afterwards, the Hotbot domain 4684 02:07:01,890 --> 02:07:03,770 became home to an unrelated 4685 02:07:03,770 --> 02:07:05,580 shopping search site. 4686 02:07:05,580 --> 02:07:09,660 Ending the 20-year history of 4687 02:07:09,660 --> 02:07:12,260 the original site. 4688 02:07:12,260 --> 02:07:13,430 But nobody cared about it 4689 02:07:13,430 --> 02:07:15,120 because in 2018, the same 4690 02:07:15,120 --> 02:07:16,720 domain was put under new 4691 02:07:16,720 --> 02:07:17,380 ownership and became an 4692 02:07:17,380 --> 02:07:18,780 unrelated privacy-focused 4693 02:07:18,780 --> 02:07:19,320 search. 4694 02:07:19,320 --> 02:07:25,690 Then 2020, the hotbot domain is 4695 02:07:25,690 --> 02:07:29,560 controlled by a VPN company 4696 02:07:29,560 --> 02:07:33,680 based in the Seychelles. 4697 02:07:33,680 --> 02:07:35,460 And now it's pivoted. 4698 02:07:35,840 --> 02:07:36,720 Take it down. 4699 02:07:36,880 --> 02:07:37,960 Pivoted to AI. 4700 02:07:38,340 --> 02:07:39,460 I'm not going to click on it. 4701 02:07:40,940 --> 02:07:41,740 AI search. 4702 02:07:41,940 --> 02:07:43,830 How are you going to compete 4703 02:07:43,830 --> 02:07:46,390 with the big boys of Google and 4704 02:07:46,390 --> 02:07:47,240 whoever else? 4705 02:07:47,280 --> 02:07:48,230 I don't think that's going to 4706 02:07:48,230 --> 02:07:49,180 work out well for them. 4707 02:07:49,180 --> 02:07:51,680 I wouldn't be surprised if in a 4708 02:07:51,680 --> 02:07:53,790 few months' time after the 4709 02:07:53,790 --> 02:07:55,630 proposed AI crash, we see 4710 02:07:55,630 --> 02:07:57,970 another entry here in the sale 4711 02:07:57,970 --> 02:07:59,800 of the domain name. 4712 02:07:59,900 --> 02:08:03,090 And the saga of hotbot.com will 4713 02:08:03,090 --> 02:08:05,080 continue at pace. 4714 02:08:08,580 --> 02:08:10,260 Unique users that come to hotbot 4715 02:08:10,260 --> 02:08:11,440 in any given month. 4716 02:08:12,720 --> 02:08:12,930 And the focus of the service 4717 02:08:12,930 --> 02:08:14,560 that we're providing to those 4718 02:08:14,560 --> 02:08:16,400 people is navigation, allowing 4719 02:08:16,400 --> 02:08:17,950 them to find their way around 4720 02:08:17,950 --> 02:08:18,660 the web. 4721 02:08:20,220 --> 02:08:20,910 The number one rated search 4722 02:08:20,910 --> 02:08:22,640 engine, Justin. 4723 02:08:22,640 --> 02:08:24,650 So this is 98, even before 4724 02:08:24,650 --> 02:08:26,660 Google had become the big, big 4725 02:08:26,660 --> 02:08:27,480 player. 4726 02:08:27,700 --> 02:08:28,790 That's at the core of what we 4727 02:08:28,790 --> 02:08:29,120 do. 4728 02:08:29,160 --> 02:08:30,560 We do provide other services 4729 02:08:30,560 --> 02:08:32,000 for people, like we provide 4730 02:08:32,000 --> 02:08:33,320 free email for people. 4731 02:08:33,500 --> 02:08:34,270 We also allow people to 4732 02:08:34,270 --> 02:08:35,880 construct their own 10 pages. 4733 02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:35,900 You had hotbot. 4734 02:08:36,080 --> 02:08:38,200 You had askjeeves.com. 4735 02:08:38,200 --> 02:08:39,420 Lysos. 4736 02:08:40,180 --> 02:08:40,920 Alta Vista. 4737 02:08:41,420 --> 02:08:43,070 But Google, you know, all those 4738 02:08:43,070 --> 02:08:45,390 websites that I just mentioned 4739 02:08:45,390 --> 02:08:46,780 there, they all had these 4740 02:08:46,780 --> 02:08:48,740 fucking web pages that looked 4741 02:08:48,740 --> 02:08:49,660 like this. 4742 02:08:49,660 --> 02:08:51,510 But Google just had a search 4743 02:08:51,510 --> 02:08:53,500 bar and the word Google on it, 4744 02:08:53,500 --> 02:08:55,260 which set it apart from the 4745 02:08:55,260 --> 02:08:55,840 rest. 4746 02:08:55,880 --> 02:08:58,010 They knew that the algorithm 4747 02:08:58,010 --> 02:09:00,220 they had spoke for itself. 4748 02:09:00,400 --> 02:09:01,310 Allow people to construct their 4749 02:09:01,310 --> 02:09:01,960 own homepages. 4750 02:09:01,960 --> 02:09:03,130 They didn't have to fucking add 4751 02:09:03,130 --> 02:09:04,400 all these whistles and bells. 4752 02:09:05,140 --> 02:09:06,610 But the focus of what we're 4753 02:09:06,610 --> 02:09:08,290 doing is to provide users with 4754 02:09:08,290 --> 02:09:09,780 a richer and richer search 4755 02:09:09,780 --> 02:09:10,760 experience. 4756 02:09:10,760 --> 02:09:12,700 So if you would compare Yahoo, 4757 02:09:12,700 --> 02:09:14,770 Excite, Lycos, and all of these 4758 02:09:14,770 --> 02:09:16,700 other portal sites, and you'd 4759 02:09:16,700 --> 02:09:18,950 say, okay, well, how does Hotbot 4760 02:09:18,950 --> 02:09:19,860 compare? 4761 02:09:20,060 --> 02:09:21,030 It's the focus on the search 4762 02:09:21,030 --> 02:09:21,540 engine. 4763 02:09:21,600 --> 02:09:22,220 Is that... 4764 02:09:22,220 --> 02:09:23,360 That's what really sets us 4765 02:09:23,360 --> 02:09:23,800 apart. 4766 02:09:24,440 --> 02:09:25,230 Both in our minds, so that 4767 02:09:25,230 --> 02:09:26,590 informs our strategy as a 4768 02:09:26,590 --> 02:09:28,410 company, but also, I think, in 4769 02:09:28,410 --> 02:09:29,680 the minds of users. 4770 02:09:29,680 --> 02:09:31,310 And when they...the people that 4771 02:09:31,310 --> 02:09:32,990 use Hotbot say that they really 4772 02:09:32,990 --> 02:09:34,700 appreciate that we continue to 4773 02:09:34,700 --> 02:09:36,370 focus on providing people with 4774 02:09:36,370 --> 02:09:37,900 the best search engine. 4775 02:09:37,940 --> 02:09:39,480 We've got an interface that 4776 02:09:39,480 --> 02:09:41,220 really focuses around the idea 4777 02:09:41,220 --> 02:09:42,760 of helping people navigate 4778 02:09:42,760 --> 02:09:44,230 their way around the web, 4779 02:09:44,230 --> 02:09:45,930 providing what are sometimes 4780 02:09:45,930 --> 02:09:47,500 complex search tools. 4781 02:09:47,880 --> 02:09:49,130 But in an interface that's very 4782 02:09:49,130 --> 02:09:49,960 easy to use. 4783 02:09:50,080 --> 02:09:51,070 So the beginners on the web 4784 02:09:51,070 --> 02:09:52,410 like to use Hotbot because they 4785 02:09:52,410 --> 02:09:53,630 can use these pull-down menus 4786 02:09:53,630 --> 02:09:55,360 and point-and-click interfaces. 4787 02:09:56,080 --> 02:09:57,520 The advanced users, people who 4788 02:09:57,520 --> 02:09:58,650 are themselves building 4789 02:09:58,650 --> 02:09:59,860 websites, like to use this 4790 02:09:59,860 --> 02:10:01,170 because we provide an array of 4791 02:10:01,170 --> 02:10:02,230 tools that allow them to 4792 02:10:02,230 --> 02:10:03,560 quickly find the information 4793 02:10:03,560 --> 02:10:05,040 that they're looking for. 4794 02:10:05,280 --> 02:10:06,450 So the ultimate navigation 4795 02:10:06,450 --> 02:10:06,960 portal. 4796 02:10:07,680 --> 02:10:08,720 Music fade up. 4797 02:10:10,020 --> 02:10:10,620 All right, Larry Maggots back 4798 02:10:10,620 --> 02:10:12,240 with us here at Cybers. 4799 02:10:12,240 --> 02:10:13,600 And it's great to see the Maggots 4800 02:10:13,600 --> 02:10:14,360 man himself. 4801 02:10:14,840 --> 02:10:16,380 Larry Maggots back to tell us 4802 02:10:16,380 --> 02:10:18,200 about some tech stuff. 4803 02:10:18,200 --> 02:10:19,070 I'm talking about portals, 4804 02:10:19,070 --> 02:10:19,750 Larry, and a couple of 4805 02:10:19,750 --> 02:10:20,610 questions I'd want to ask you 4806 02:10:20,610 --> 02:10:21,200 from... 4807 02:10:21,200 --> 02:10:22,900 And in this case, portals. 4808 02:10:22,900 --> 02:10:23,880 The user's point of view, 4809 02:10:23,880 --> 02:10:24,460 number one. 4810 02:10:25,180 --> 02:10:26,470 You know, if I'm using Netscape, 4811 02:10:26,470 --> 02:10:28,020 it defaults, I end up in NetCenter. 4812 02:10:28,740 --> 02:10:29,640 Do I lose something as a user 4813 02:10:29,640 --> 02:10:31,180 by just staying there? 4814 02:10:31,300 --> 02:10:32,850 Or should I go off to the Yahoo's 4815 02:10:32,850 --> 02:10:34,060 or someplace else? 4816 02:10:34,180 --> 02:10:35,390 Well, it's not that you lose 4817 02:10:35,390 --> 02:10:36,060 anything. 4818 02:10:36,140 --> 02:10:37,370 It's just that you're sort of 4819 02:10:37,370 --> 02:10:38,980 corralled into Netscape's 4820 02:10:38,980 --> 02:10:39,940 definition of what they want 4821 02:10:39,940 --> 02:10:40,580 you to see. 4822 02:10:40,660 --> 02:10:41,540 And, you know, these portals 4823 02:10:41,540 --> 02:10:42,410 are controlled by business 4824 02:10:42,410 --> 02:10:43,140 relationships. 4825 02:10:43,300 --> 02:10:44,540 I hate to break it to the world. 4826 02:10:44,920 --> 02:10:46,230 But it's no accident that one 4827 02:10:46,230 --> 02:10:48,160 particular computer network or 4828 02:10:48,160 --> 02:10:50,040 one particular news service is 4829 02:10:50,040 --> 02:10:50,820 on there. 4830 02:10:51,340 --> 02:10:52,770 And so what you're really 4831 02:10:52,770 --> 02:10:54,740 losing is the variety of the myriad 4832 02:10:54,740 --> 02:10:56,720 of material that's on the web. 4833 02:10:56,800 --> 02:10:58,020 So don't be necessarily content 4834 02:10:58,020 --> 02:10:59,260 with just using that default 4835 02:10:59,260 --> 02:11:00,220 portal, if you will. 4836 02:11:00,220 --> 02:11:01,210 Right. I would not only go to 4837 02:11:01,210 --> 02:11:02,280 other portals, but I would also 4838 02:11:02,280 --> 02:11:03,220 seek out sites directly. 4839 02:11:03,360 --> 02:11:04,530 I mean, seek out the really 4840 02:11:04,530 --> 02:11:05,960 interesting news sites. 4841 02:11:05,960 --> 02:11:07,500 Get in there and type your WWs. 4842 02:11:07,500 --> 02:11:10,250 And do the searches. The portals 4843 02:11:10,250 --> 02:11:14,380 will take you to interesting 4844 02:11:14,380 --> 02:11:16,000 places. 4845 02:11:16,100 --> 02:11:17,060 Last point. You mentioned the 4846 02:11:17,060 --> 02:11:17,760 business answer. 4847 02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:19,250 Last point already. We've only 4848 02:11:19,250 --> 02:11:20,600 just got to fucking Larry. 4849 02:11:20,720 --> 02:11:22,550 We want a good three-minute 4850 02:11:22,550 --> 02:11:24,040 Larry chunk here. 4851 02:11:24,120 --> 02:11:26,280 We don't want in and out within 4852 02:11:26,280 --> 02:11:27,920 a minute and a half. 4853 02:11:28,440 --> 02:11:29,400 This is a good guest. 4854 02:11:30,300 --> 02:11:31,460 Thank you very much. Feast of 4855 02:11:31,460 --> 02:11:32,820 Immaculate Channel. 4856 02:11:33,600 --> 02:11:34,420 Very kind of you there. 4857 02:11:34,740 --> 02:11:35,720 It concerns me a bit. 4858 02:11:35,840 --> 02:11:36,540 And some of us who remember... 4859 02:11:36,540 --> 02:11:37,500 Are you out of purgatory? 4860 02:11:37,700 --> 02:11:38,920 I haven't checked yet. 4861 02:11:39,480 --> 02:11:40,100 But I will. 4862 02:11:40,440 --> 02:11:42,040 Maybe I'll just check right now 4863 02:11:42,040 --> 02:11:43,720 and see if my channel still has 4864 02:11:43,720 --> 02:11:44,940 the strike on it. 4865 02:11:44,940 --> 02:11:48,230 If I go into studio mode on the 4866 02:11:48,230 --> 02:11:51,950 YouTube site there, it should 4867 02:11:51,950 --> 02:11:53,140 tell me. 4868 02:11:53,680 --> 02:11:54,780 Studio mode. 4869 02:11:56,680 --> 02:11:58,100 Bear with me here. 4870 02:11:59,100 --> 02:12:00,450 If you go to studio and then 4871 02:12:00,450 --> 02:12:01,800 dashboard. 4872 02:12:02,100 --> 02:12:02,820 And I have... 4873 02:12:03,920 --> 02:12:05,560 Yeah, there is no warning on it. 4874 02:12:05,860 --> 02:12:06,880 There is no warning on it. 4875 02:12:06,920 --> 02:12:08,950 The channel is back in fully 4876 02:12:08,950 --> 02:12:10,080 good stead. 4877 02:12:11,120 --> 02:12:12,960 Thank you so much for everybody 4878 02:12:12,960 --> 02:12:15,500 for your continued support 4879 02:12:15,500 --> 02:12:18,880 throughout that terrible period 4880 02:12:18,880 --> 02:12:21,360 where I was under the cosh. 4881 02:12:22,140 --> 02:12:24,490 Damocles of YouTube re-education 4882 02:12:24,490 --> 02:12:26,200 program hanging over the 4883 02:12:26,200 --> 02:12:27,100 channel. 4884 02:12:27,420 --> 02:12:28,530 And now it seems that 4885 02:12:28,530 --> 02:12:30,900 everything is fine and working 4886 02:12:30,900 --> 02:12:31,800 to scratch. 4887 02:12:31,800 --> 02:12:33,390 And I think maybe people were 4888 02:12:33,390 --> 02:12:34,930 getting annoyed there that I 4889 02:12:34,930 --> 02:12:35,960 was streaming. 4890 02:12:36,320 --> 02:12:37,680 Or at least Fontaine was. 4891 02:12:38,380 --> 02:12:39,520 Not so long ago. 4892 02:12:40,300 --> 02:12:41,800 The Thanksgiving Day Parade. 4893 02:12:42,480 --> 02:12:44,610 I think it's my two cents is 4894 02:12:44,610 --> 02:12:47,130 that if you're streaming an 4895 02:12:47,130 --> 02:12:49,290 Associated Press or a Reuters 4896 02:12:49,290 --> 02:12:51,830 feed or whatever news agency is 4897 02:12:51,830 --> 02:12:54,270 doing something live like the 4898 02:12:54,270 --> 02:12:56,420 Robotics World Cup over in 4899 02:12:56,420 --> 02:12:58,780 China a few months ago. 4900 02:12:58,780 --> 02:13:01,160 I think when it's something 4901 02:13:01,160 --> 02:13:02,340 like that. 4902 02:13:03,560 --> 02:13:05,060 Now correct me if I'm wrong. 4903 02:13:05,340 --> 02:13:07,710 But I don't think the algorithm 4904 02:13:07,710 --> 02:13:08,580 can sense. 4905 02:13:09,860 --> 02:13:10,220 Because that content is 4906 02:13:10,220 --> 02:13:11,810 happening live on those 4907 02:13:11,810 --> 02:13:13,900 channels and then it's going on 4908 02:13:13,900 --> 02:13:15,280 live on mine say. 4909 02:13:15,920 --> 02:13:17,120 I don't think they can tell 4910 02:13:17,120 --> 02:13:19,010 because they don't have the 4911 02:13:19,010 --> 02:13:19,680 data. 4912 02:13:19,680 --> 02:13:21,920 The data still hasn't been 4913 02:13:21,920 --> 02:13:24,480 uploaded and stored as a viable 4914 02:13:24,480 --> 02:13:26,880 video which they can content 4915 02:13:26,880 --> 02:13:28,160 match then. 4916 02:13:28,800 --> 02:13:29,060 Do you know? 4917 02:13:29,420 --> 02:13:30,840 The only way that you'll get 4918 02:13:30,840 --> 02:13:32,320 done I think is if you're 4919 02:13:32,320 --> 02:13:34,370 actually really going after the 4920 02:13:34,370 --> 02:13:36,270 big boys and rebroadcasting a 4921 02:13:36,270 --> 02:13:38,800 legacy media television station. 4922 02:13:38,960 --> 02:13:40,600 Or a football soccer game or 4923 02:13:40,600 --> 02:13:42,080 something like that. 4924 02:13:42,640 --> 02:13:43,280 Whereby. 4925 02:13:44,080 --> 02:13:44,920 Those lads. 4926 02:13:45,240 --> 02:13:46,720 I don't know how they do it. 4927 02:13:47,260 --> 02:13:48,740 But they have the money. 4928 02:13:48,840 --> 02:13:49,740 They have deep pockets. 4929 02:13:50,080 --> 02:13:51,740 And they're able to content 4930 02:13:51,740 --> 02:13:53,180 match on the fly. 4931 02:13:54,300 --> 02:13:56,420 And that's happened before with 4932 02:13:56,420 --> 02:13:57,280 DAZN. 4933 02:13:57,400 --> 02:13:58,180 Got multiple. 4934 02:13:59,460 --> 02:14:00,530 Copyright strikes for something 4935 02:14:00,530 --> 02:14:01,440 like that. 4936 02:14:01,540 --> 02:14:03,380 Not strikes but I got something. 4937 02:14:03,560 --> 02:14:04,670 Something happened like you 4938 02:14:04,670 --> 02:14:05,080 know. 4939 02:14:06,020 --> 02:14:07,740 But when it's a newscast. 4940 02:14:08,400 --> 02:14:09,620 Of some robots kicking a 4941 02:14:09,620 --> 02:14:11,200 fucking football in China. 4942 02:14:11,560 --> 02:14:11,920 Live. 4943 02:14:12,660 --> 02:14:13,620 I think that's. 4944 02:14:14,100 --> 02:14:14,950 I don't think they have the 4945 02:14:14,950 --> 02:14:16,340 tech available to be able to 4946 02:14:16,340 --> 02:14:17,420 fucking do that. 4947 02:14:17,540 --> 02:14:17,720 You know. 4948 02:14:17,900 --> 02:14:19,190 I could be wrong but up until 4949 02:14:19,190 --> 02:14:19,740 now it. 4950 02:14:19,940 --> 02:14:21,080 It doesn't seem to have. 4951 02:14:21,840 --> 02:14:22,100 Had. 4952 02:14:22,220 --> 02:14:23,910 I didn't get any problems with 4953 02:14:23,910 --> 02:14:24,860 that stuff. 4954 02:14:24,940 --> 02:14:25,120 You know. 4955 02:14:26,120 --> 02:14:26,780 That said. 4956 02:14:26,880 --> 02:14:27,300 I do. 4957 02:14:27,300 --> 02:14:28,310 I would have just got rid of 4958 02:14:28,310 --> 02:14:29,440 the video straight away. 4959 02:14:29,800 --> 02:14:31,000 Remember the Grammys there. 4960 02:14:31,220 --> 02:14:31,660 Last year. 4961 02:14:31,760 --> 02:14:32,960 Even the Grammys live stream. 4962 02:14:33,060 --> 02:14:34,910 But that wasn't an official 4963 02:14:34,910 --> 02:14:35,700 Grammy. 4964 02:14:36,620 --> 02:14:37,060 Joint. 4965 02:14:37,580 --> 02:14:38,280 That would have been. 4966 02:14:38,340 --> 02:14:39,840 Reuters at the Grammys. 4967 02:14:39,960 --> 02:14:42,380 Or Associated Press at the Grammys. 4968 02:14:42,520 --> 02:14:42,680 You know. 4969 02:14:42,740 --> 02:14:44,160 It's a third party content 4970 02:14:44,160 --> 02:14:45,040 situation. 4971 02:14:45,920 --> 02:14:46,120 So. 4972 02:14:46,660 --> 02:14:46,920 You know. 4973 02:14:47,320 --> 02:14:48,180 It is what it is. 4974 02:14:48,240 --> 02:14:48,960 I think still. 4975 02:14:49,280 --> 02:14:50,500 Some of the stuff does fall 4976 02:14:50,500 --> 02:14:51,880 within the remit of. 4977 02:14:52,520 --> 02:14:53,900 Of fair use. 4978 02:14:53,980 --> 02:14:55,000 If you're stopping it. 4979 02:14:55,220 --> 02:14:56,640 And saying stuff about it. 4980 02:14:56,640 --> 02:14:57,080 And criticizing. 4981 02:14:57,800 --> 02:14:59,080 But you're up against robots. 4982 02:14:59,840 --> 02:15:00,060 You know. 4983 02:15:00,160 --> 02:15:01,020 They might not even. 4984 02:15:01,360 --> 02:15:03,280 It won't even get to that level. 4985 02:15:04,000 --> 02:15:04,360 Of. 4986 02:15:04,680 --> 02:15:05,400 Of discussion. 4987 02:15:05,700 --> 02:15:06,260 With a robot. 4988 02:15:06,440 --> 02:15:07,440 Robot will just kill you. 4989 02:15:07,600 --> 02:15:10,640 But we're okay. 4990 02:15:10,640 --> 02:15:12,200 We're doing fine now anyways. 4991 02:15:13,000 --> 02:15:13,830 Remember the populous days of 4992 02:15:13,830 --> 02:15:14,460 the web. 4993 02:15:14,560 --> 02:15:15,880 And as for Net Cafe. 4994 02:15:16,800 --> 02:15:18,800 And as for Computer Chronicles. 4995 02:15:19,220 --> 02:15:20,260 That's public domain. 4996 02:15:20,720 --> 02:15:21,700 That's Stuart Shafé. 4997 02:15:22,220 --> 02:15:23,820 You see all the adverts within. 4998 02:15:24,020 --> 02:15:24,200 You know. 4999 02:15:24,320 --> 02:15:25,880 Buy the tape for 32 quid. 5000 02:15:25,960 --> 02:15:27,140 We've got the Shafé letter. 5001 02:15:28,140 --> 02:15:29,500 There would have been product 5002 02:15:29,500 --> 02:15:30,420 placement in it. 5003 02:15:30,820 --> 02:15:31,740 He would have made. 5004 02:15:32,080 --> 02:15:33,260 The money and just thought. 5005 02:15:33,320 --> 02:15:33,640 Fuck it. 5006 02:15:33,700 --> 02:15:33,880 You know. 5007 02:15:34,260 --> 02:15:35,560 You can watch all those shows. 5008 02:15:35,860 --> 02:15:37,410 Are we televisionizing the web 5009 02:15:37,410 --> 02:15:37,880 now? 5010 02:15:37,960 --> 02:15:38,980 We're going to see five or six. 5011 02:15:39,380 --> 02:15:40,340 The next thing. 5012 02:15:41,340 --> 02:15:42,340 On the horizon. 5013 02:15:42,540 --> 02:15:42,800 Would be. 5014 02:15:43,020 --> 02:15:44,410 If he's ever asked about doing 5015 02:15:44,410 --> 02:15:44,740 it. 5016 02:15:44,900 --> 02:15:45,780 Would be to then. 5017 02:15:46,100 --> 02:15:47,060 Redigitize. 5018 02:15:47,980 --> 02:15:49,540 Using new technology. 5019 02:15:49,680 --> 02:15:50,520 To upscale. 5020 02:15:51,120 --> 02:15:52,720 All the original tapes. 5021 02:15:54,180 --> 02:15:54,440 You know. 5022 02:15:54,580 --> 02:15:55,600 That would be fantastic. 5023 02:15:55,800 --> 02:15:57,460 That really would be fantastic. 5024 02:15:57,820 --> 02:15:58,840 But that's not going to happen. 5025 02:15:58,960 --> 02:15:59,880 For a good few years. 5026 02:15:59,880 --> 02:16:00,480 I don't think. 5027 02:16:01,300 --> 02:16:02,000 Until it's. 5028 02:16:02,200 --> 02:16:03,240 Really old media. 5029 02:16:03,800 --> 02:16:04,900 And people see the. 5030 02:16:04,980 --> 02:16:05,760 The worth in it. 5031 02:16:06,180 --> 02:16:07,340 The worth in doing that. 5032 02:16:07,400 --> 02:16:08,340 No one's going to do that. 5033 02:16:09,120 --> 02:16:09,640 It would be a. 5034 02:16:09,800 --> 02:16:09,940 You know. 5035 02:16:10,240 --> 02:16:10,680 4K. 5036 02:16:11,220 --> 02:16:12,660 4K computer chronicles. 5037 02:16:13,160 --> 02:16:13,300 You know. 5038 02:16:13,360 --> 02:16:14,840 We can only dream. 5039 02:16:15,280 --> 02:16:16,420 Of that level of detail. 5040 02:16:16,820 --> 02:16:17,360 It'd be like. 5041 02:16:17,700 --> 02:16:18,600 Watching it all again. 5042 02:16:18,660 --> 02:16:19,380 For the first time. 5043 02:16:19,700 --> 02:16:21,100 And seeing so much. 5044 02:16:21,740 --> 02:16:22,520 Detail in it. 5045 02:16:24,160 --> 02:16:25,440 It's the stuff of dreams. 5046 02:16:25,440 --> 02:16:25,940 Like you know. 5047 02:16:26,000 --> 02:16:26,760 But I don't think that's going 5048 02:16:26,760 --> 02:16:26,980 to. 5049 02:16:27,080 --> 02:16:28,180 We mightn't see it in our 5050 02:16:28,180 --> 02:16:28,860 lifetime. 5051 02:16:29,480 --> 02:16:30,820 What is interesting. 5052 02:16:31,040 --> 02:16:31,340 Is that. 5053 02:16:31,800 --> 02:16:33,640 In maybe 20 or 30 years. 5054 02:16:35,240 --> 02:16:36,600 There'll be decent enough. 5055 02:16:37,060 --> 02:16:38,180 Films and stuff. 5056 02:16:38,460 --> 02:16:40,020 That have lost their. 5057 02:16:40,840 --> 02:16:41,280 You know. 5058 02:16:41,300 --> 02:16:42,080 After a hundred years. 5059 02:16:42,180 --> 02:16:42,560 I think you. 5060 02:16:42,900 --> 02:16:44,240 That the copyright goes then. 5061 02:16:44,300 --> 02:16:45,200 And you can fucking use it. 5062 02:16:45,240 --> 02:16:45,860 The same way that. 5063 02:16:46,440 --> 02:16:47,420 People can use like. 5064 02:16:47,520 --> 02:16:48,180 Mickey Mouse. 5065 02:16:48,800 --> 02:16:49,440 Is image. 5066 02:16:49,980 --> 02:16:51,060 From Steamboat Willie. 5067 02:16:51,640 --> 02:16:53,420 Because that's an old situation. 5068 02:16:53,580 --> 02:16:54,040 And I think. 5069 02:16:54,200 --> 02:16:55,500 There's another cartoon. 5070 02:16:55,740 --> 02:16:56,240 Coming out. 5071 02:16:56,480 --> 02:16:56,980 Soon enough. 5072 02:16:57,080 --> 02:16:57,960 Or that's going to break. 5073 02:16:58,000 --> 02:16:58,640 A hundred years. 5074 02:16:58,980 --> 02:16:59,820 And people are going to be able. 5075 02:16:59,820 --> 02:17:00,960 To use images of like. 5076 02:17:01,540 --> 02:17:01,820 I don't know. 5077 02:17:01,900 --> 02:17:02,240 Garfield. 5078 02:17:02,240 --> 02:17:02,800 I can't remember. 5079 02:17:02,980 --> 02:17:03,900 What the fucking cartoon is. 5080 02:17:04,000 --> 02:17:04,840 Not Garfield anyway. 5081 02:17:04,940 --> 02:17:05,560 It's something else. 5082 02:17:06,480 --> 02:17:06,620 But. 5083 02:17:06,720 --> 02:17:08,420 Interesting times. 5084 02:17:08,680 --> 02:17:09,440 For the future. 5085 02:17:10,100 --> 02:17:10,380 Do you know. 5086 02:17:10,700 --> 02:17:11,300 Maybe potentially. 5087 02:17:11,440 --> 02:17:11,800 I'd still. 5088 02:17:12,020 --> 02:17:12,480 Hopefully. 5089 02:17:12,620 --> 02:17:13,520 If I'm still here. 5090 02:17:13,960 --> 02:17:15,240 And I've used the software. 5091 02:17:15,420 --> 02:17:16,330 That we've seen on the previous 5092 02:17:16,330 --> 02:17:16,800 episode. 5093 02:17:16,800 --> 02:17:18,180 I've made my will and testament. 5094 02:17:18,320 --> 02:17:18,800 And all that stuff. 5095 02:17:19,120 --> 02:17:19,520 But hopefully. 5096 02:17:19,560 --> 02:17:20,580 I'm still around. 5097 02:17:21,360 --> 02:17:22,340 In the future. 5098 02:17:22,840 --> 02:17:24,120 To be able to live stream. 5099 02:17:24,320 --> 02:17:24,640 As. 5100 02:17:25,460 --> 02:17:25,820 You know. 5101 02:17:25,880 --> 02:17:27,440 An old age pensioner. 5102 02:17:28,400 --> 02:17:29,420 Watching movies. 5103 02:17:30,300 --> 02:17:31,440 Without any worry. 5104 02:17:31,560 --> 02:17:32,300 About copyright. 5105 02:17:32,540 --> 02:17:32,980 Whatsoever. 5106 02:17:35,280 --> 02:17:35,700 You know. 5107 02:17:36,460 --> 02:17:37,820 Looking forward to that day. 5108 02:17:37,920 --> 02:17:38,840 If it ever happens. 5109 02:17:39,060 --> 02:17:39,960 Hopefully it does happen. 5110 02:17:39,960 --> 02:17:41,080 Works called portals. 5111 02:17:41,180 --> 02:17:42,760 And big corporate control. 5112 02:17:42,760 --> 02:17:44,040 Over what we do in the world. 5113 02:17:44,040 --> 02:17:44,580 Well in a sense. 5114 02:17:44,660 --> 02:17:45,120 We are in a sense. 5115 02:17:45,180 --> 02:17:45,680 We're not in a sense. 5116 02:17:45,680 --> 02:17:46,240 We're television. 5117 02:17:46,420 --> 02:17:46,680 I think. 5118 02:17:46,780 --> 02:17:47,180 And the thing that. 5119 02:17:47,500 --> 02:17:48,760 That the popular sites. 5120 02:17:48,760 --> 02:17:49,520 Are going to be few and far 5121 02:17:49,520 --> 02:17:49,920 between. 5122 02:17:50,120 --> 02:17:50,160 Yeah. 5123 02:17:50,420 --> 02:17:51,660 But there are still going to be. 5124 02:17:51,760 --> 02:17:52,080 Thousands. 5125 02:17:52,080 --> 02:17:52,820 In fact millions. 5126 02:17:52,820 --> 02:17:53,760 Of websites out there. 5127 02:17:53,860 --> 02:17:54,540 And there are not. 5128 02:17:54,620 --> 02:17:55,720 Millions of television stations. 5129 02:17:55,840 --> 02:17:56,000 Yeah. 5130 02:17:56,200 --> 02:17:56,780 Choices there. 5131 02:17:56,860 --> 02:17:57,100 Yeah. 5132 02:17:57,100 --> 02:17:58,040 To seek it out now. 5133 02:17:58,300 --> 02:17:58,520 Larry. 5134 02:17:58,600 --> 02:17:58,960 Thank you. 5135 02:17:59,040 --> 02:17:59,380 My pleasure. 5136 02:17:59,840 --> 02:18:01,040 It's a fast Larry. 5137 02:18:01,280 --> 02:18:02,410 I don't like it when it's a 5138 02:18:02,410 --> 02:18:03,080 fast Larry. 5139 02:18:03,420 --> 02:18:04,900 It needs to be a good. 5140 02:18:06,240 --> 02:18:06,600 Solid. 5141 02:18:07,800 --> 02:18:08,080 Larry. 5142 02:18:08,380 --> 02:18:09,000 And it was just. 5143 02:18:09,120 --> 02:18:09,760 And look at that. 5144 02:18:09,940 --> 02:18:11,520 Blue steel there from DeVries. 5145 02:18:11,780 --> 02:18:12,360 We've seen him. 5146 02:18:12,360 --> 02:18:12,800 And that's. 5147 02:18:13,020 --> 02:18:15,620 The shades of the current DeVries. 5148 02:18:16,000 --> 02:18:16,980 In there. 5149 02:18:17,840 --> 02:18:19,220 Sort of a Chris Hansen. 5150 02:18:20,580 --> 02:18:21,940 Vibe about him as well. 5151 02:18:22,540 --> 02:18:24,040 The shades of the. 5152 02:18:24,660 --> 02:18:26,320 The video that we've seen. 5153 02:18:26,840 --> 02:18:28,220 Of himself there. 5154 02:18:28,340 --> 02:18:29,720 When he's gone about reprobates. 5155 02:18:31,300 --> 02:18:32,380 Today we're going to discuss. 5156 02:18:32,640 --> 02:18:34,090 Sorry there for blasting the 5157 02:18:34,090 --> 02:18:34,700 audio. 5158 02:18:35,340 --> 02:18:36,180 But you can see. 5159 02:18:37,800 --> 02:18:38,920 He's there. 5160 02:18:38,920 --> 02:18:39,740 And he's. 5161 02:18:40,960 --> 02:18:41,420 You know. 5162 02:18:41,460 --> 02:18:41,840 Time. 5163 02:18:42,340 --> 02:18:43,140 Has passed. 5164 02:18:43,480 --> 02:18:44,560 And now he's here. 5165 02:18:44,640 --> 02:18:45,580 We got a close up. 5166 02:18:45,640 --> 02:18:46,900 We got a closer shot of him 5167 02:18:46,900 --> 02:18:47,460 there. 5168 02:18:48,720 --> 02:18:49,620 We don't. 5169 02:18:49,700 --> 02:18:50,920 But there's some nice imagery 5170 02:18:50,920 --> 02:18:51,320 there. 5171 02:18:51,500 --> 02:18:52,780 Of a load of dollar bills. 5172 02:18:56,260 --> 02:18:57,000 Best price. 5173 02:18:57,320 --> 02:18:58,300 They may lack the project. 5174 02:18:58,500 --> 02:18:58,960 Oh, it's best. 5175 02:18:59,080 --> 02:19:00,460 In the shortest time possible. 5176 02:19:00,680 --> 02:19:02,140 And for the best price. 5177 02:19:02,860 --> 02:19:04,640 Lovely animation there. 5178 02:19:05,640 --> 02:19:05,860 Yeah. 5179 02:19:05,900 --> 02:19:07,240 So it's a Chris Hansen. 5180 02:19:07,480 --> 02:19:08,160 Slash. 5181 02:19:09,820 --> 02:19:10,260 Horatio. 5182 02:19:10,740 --> 02:19:12,240 From CSI. 5183 02:19:12,760 --> 02:19:14,480 He's about to put the shades on. 5184 02:19:17,420 --> 02:19:18,200 Lovely stuff. 5185 02:19:19,020 --> 02:19:20,040 Net Cafe site. 5186 02:19:20,480 --> 02:19:22,320 CNPCV.com. 5187 02:19:23,720 --> 02:19:24,540 Justin Hall. 5188 02:19:24,720 --> 02:19:26,300 You are somewhat of a visionary. 5189 02:19:26,600 --> 02:19:27,520 At least I think with the in 5190 02:19:27,520 --> 02:19:28,480 crowd of the web. 5191 02:19:28,660 --> 02:19:29,060 Oh wow. 5192 02:19:29,100 --> 02:19:30,020 And I'm going to give you that 5193 02:19:30,020 --> 02:19:30,600 title anyway. 5194 02:19:30,600 --> 02:19:31,100 Oh wow. 5195 02:19:31,220 --> 02:19:32,650 And you created I think one of 5196 02:19:32,650 --> 02:19:33,380 the first. 5197 02:19:33,500 --> 02:19:34,630 We could say it was a portal 5198 02:19:34,630 --> 02:19:35,100 site. 5199 02:19:35,100 --> 02:19:35,640 Kind of. 5200 02:19:35,820 --> 02:19:36,400 And we haven't. 5201 02:19:36,400 --> 02:19:38,220 We haven't gone for the full. 5202 02:19:39,140 --> 02:19:41,760 Frontal shot of Mr. Hall here. 5203 02:19:41,860 --> 02:19:42,520 But we have. 5204 02:19:43,000 --> 02:19:46,520 The voyeuristic CCTV angle. 5205 02:19:47,300 --> 02:19:48,490 And he does a funny little 5206 02:19:48,490 --> 02:19:50,500 thing with his hand here. 5207 02:19:50,680 --> 02:19:51,780 You created I think one of the 5208 02:19:51,780 --> 02:19:52,240 first. 5209 02:19:52,260 --> 02:19:53,140 Don't know what that means. 5210 02:19:53,260 --> 02:19:54,130 I'm going to give you that 5211 02:19:54,130 --> 02:19:54,700 title anyway. 5212 02:19:55,260 --> 02:19:56,470 And you created I think one of 5213 02:19:56,470 --> 02:19:57,340 the first. 5214 02:19:57,480 --> 02:19:58,590 We could say it was a portal 5215 02:19:58,590 --> 02:19:59,060 site. 5216 02:19:59,140 --> 02:20:00,480 Kind of back in the web's 5217 02:20:00,480 --> 02:20:01,380 beginning. 5218 02:20:01,800 --> 02:20:03,020 Links to the underground. 5219 02:20:03,200 --> 02:20:04,180 Or links from the underground. 5220 02:20:04,180 --> 02:20:04,500 Okay. 5221 02:20:05,400 --> 02:20:07,080 Yeah that was January 1994. 5222 02:20:07,520 --> 02:20:07,980 And what it was. 5223 02:20:07,980 --> 02:20:08,700 He's a young fella. 5224 02:20:09,060 --> 02:20:09,840 Justin Hall. 5225 02:20:10,120 --> 02:20:11,040 And when I was surfing. 5226 02:20:11,140 --> 02:20:11,940 I was coming across all this 5227 02:20:11,940 --> 02:20:12,280 stuff. 5228 02:20:12,340 --> 02:20:13,060 And I didn't know if other 5229 02:20:13,060 --> 02:20:13,920 people were seeing it. 5230 02:20:14,080 --> 02:20:15,200 So it was kind of a one man 5231 02:20:15,200 --> 02:20:16,760 portal in 1994. 5232 02:20:17,160 --> 02:20:17,540 It was kind of. 5233 02:20:17,540 --> 02:20:18,400 So it was a list basically. 5234 02:20:18,820 --> 02:20:20,120 Of links that you like. 5235 02:20:20,220 --> 02:20:20,940 There was value add. 5236 02:20:21,020 --> 02:20:22,200 There was content going on. 5237 02:20:22,260 --> 02:20:23,290 Because I would commentate on 5238 02:20:23,290 --> 02:20:23,800 the links. 5239 02:20:23,960 --> 02:20:24,900 And you would find that there 5240 02:20:24,900 --> 02:20:25,480 was a niche. 5241 02:20:25,640 --> 02:20:26,900 Thank you very much there. 5242 02:20:27,320 --> 02:20:28,180 Lovely jumper. 5243 02:20:28,620 --> 02:20:29,600 And John Wayne. 5244 02:20:29,760 --> 02:20:30,940 Thank you very much there. 5245 02:20:31,620 --> 02:20:32,760 For the tip. 5246 02:20:32,880 --> 02:20:33,740 Congrats on completing. 5247 02:20:33,740 --> 02:20:34,800 Your global corporation 5248 02:20:34,800 --> 02:20:35,380 assigned. 5249 02:20:35,500 --> 02:20:36,700 Re-education program. 5250 02:20:36,960 --> 02:20:37,600 All hail. 5251 02:20:37,920 --> 02:20:39,380 Our tech overlords. 5252 02:20:39,560 --> 02:20:40,000 It was out there. 5253 02:20:40,440 --> 02:20:40,900 It wasn't. 5254 02:20:41,080 --> 02:20:42,420 It had a slant to it. 5255 02:20:42,500 --> 02:20:43,980 And it had a guiding function. 5256 02:20:44,120 --> 02:20:44,640 Provided. 5257 02:20:44,820 --> 02:20:45,420 In that if you. 5258 02:20:45,760 --> 02:20:47,360 If your taste correlated with 5259 02:20:47,360 --> 02:20:47,940 mine. 5260 02:20:48,000 --> 02:20:49,340 I've just seen a great name. 5261 02:20:49,640 --> 02:20:50,300 That passed. 5262 02:20:50,600 --> 02:20:51,940 Might have passed us by there. 5263 02:20:52,420 --> 02:20:53,120 If you're. 5264 02:20:53,220 --> 02:20:54,020 Unless you're an eagle eye 5265 02:20:54,020 --> 02:20:54,440 cherry. 5266 02:20:55,160 --> 02:20:56,920 Jesse Stackgold. 5267 02:20:57,560 --> 02:20:58,080 Sarah. 5268 02:20:58,460 --> 02:20:59,500 Stackgold Sarah. 5269 02:20:59,960 --> 02:21:00,560 Hyphenated. 5270 02:21:01,120 --> 02:21:02,000 At MIT. 5271 02:21:06,440 --> 02:21:08,040 Notoriously underrepresented. 5272 02:21:08,760 --> 02:21:09,080 Provided. 5273 02:21:09,080 --> 02:21:09,640 Provided. 5274 02:21:09,760 --> 02:21:10,440 In that if you. 5275 02:21:10,760 --> 02:21:12,430 If your taste correlated with 5276 02:21:12,430 --> 02:21:13,000 mine. 5277 02:21:13,140 --> 02:21:13,720 You would find. 5278 02:21:14,380 --> 02:21:14,760 Satisfying results. 5279 02:21:14,760 --> 02:21:15,460 Satisfying results. 5280 02:21:15,680 --> 02:21:16,880 And that was one of the first 5281 02:21:16,880 --> 02:21:17,240 sites. 5282 02:21:17,400 --> 02:21:18,460 That by my recollection. 5283 02:21:18,540 --> 02:21:19,640 To do something like that. 5284 02:21:19,680 --> 02:21:20,810 And obviously other folks have 5285 02:21:20,810 --> 02:21:21,240 come in. 5286 02:21:21,320 --> 02:21:22,540 And around the same time. 5287 02:21:22,700 --> 02:21:24,360 And now they're big business. 5288 02:21:24,680 --> 02:21:25,600 And portals. 5289 02:21:25,700 --> 02:21:26,940 And all this crazy terms going 5290 02:21:26,940 --> 02:21:27,240 on. 5291 02:21:28,020 --> 02:21:28,520 Well I don't know if I was a 5292 02:21:28,520 --> 02:21:29,120 portal. 5293 02:21:29,200 --> 02:21:30,270 Because one of the things that 5294 02:21:30,270 --> 02:21:31,400 I think is really exciting. 5295 02:21:31,400 --> 02:21:32,580 About the portals today. 5296 02:21:32,940 --> 02:21:34,580 Is that they really do. 5297 02:21:34,960 --> 02:21:35,830 Strive to match you up with 5298 02:21:35,830 --> 02:21:36,720 other people. 5299 02:21:36,960 --> 02:21:38,110 A study came out from Carnegie 5300 02:21:38,110 --> 02:21:39,520 Mellon University today. 5301 02:21:39,660 --> 02:21:40,640 Saying that web surfing. 5302 02:21:41,140 --> 02:21:41,580 And internet. 5303 02:21:41,720 --> 02:21:42,320 Time on the internet. 5304 02:21:42,420 --> 02:21:43,620 Is a depressing activity. 5305 02:21:43,800 --> 02:21:43,900 Like. 5306 02:21:44,040 --> 02:21:44,840 You know I saw that. 5307 02:21:44,860 --> 02:21:45,200 That's right. 5308 02:21:45,260 --> 02:21:46,160 If you do that you will end up. 5309 02:21:46,160 --> 02:21:47,440 I saw that. 5310 02:21:48,060 --> 02:21:49,100 They're on about portals. 5311 02:21:49,240 --> 02:21:49,720 I still. 5312 02:21:49,860 --> 02:21:50,930 I know we're 20 minutes into 5313 02:21:50,930 --> 02:21:51,760 the episode here. 5314 02:21:51,860 --> 02:21:52,580 70 minutes. 5315 02:21:52,580 --> 02:21:53,720 I'm still not sure. 5316 02:21:53,840 --> 02:21:55,100 What a fucking portal is. 5317 02:21:55,540 --> 02:21:55,780 People. 5318 02:21:56,020 --> 02:21:57,210 A study came out from Carnegie 5319 02:21:57,210 --> 02:21:58,640 Mellon University today. 5320 02:21:58,760 --> 02:21:59,740 Saying that web surfing. 5321 02:22:00,260 --> 02:22:00,680 And internet. 5322 02:22:00,820 --> 02:22:01,420 Time on the internet. 5323 02:22:01,520 --> 02:22:02,720 Is a depressing activity. 5324 02:22:02,920 --> 02:22:03,020 Like. 5325 02:22:03,160 --> 02:22:03,940 You know I saw that. 5326 02:22:03,960 --> 02:22:04,300 That's right. 5327 02:22:04,360 --> 02:22:04,840 If you do that. 5328 02:22:04,880 --> 02:22:05,760 You will end up just a little 5329 02:22:05,760 --> 02:22:06,540 bit more depressed. 5330 02:22:06,660 --> 02:22:07,780 Than you were before you got on. 5331 02:22:07,840 --> 02:22:08,420 And so I think. 5332 02:22:08,800 --> 02:22:09,200 What people. 5333 02:22:09,500 --> 02:22:10,890 Will you be thinking of getting 5334 02:22:10,890 --> 02:22:11,820 a warzone win. 5335 02:22:11,820 --> 02:22:13,760 For the Omega boys at Christmas. 5336 02:22:14,760 --> 02:22:15,200 Minister. 5337 02:22:16,000 --> 02:22:17,840 Maybe I missed the name. 5338 02:22:17,840 --> 02:22:18,700 Art McGee. 5339 02:22:19,120 --> 02:22:19,800 Back there. 5340 02:22:20,660 --> 02:22:22,400 On that stick gold. 5341 02:22:22,400 --> 02:22:26,960 Art McGee's last. 5342 02:22:27,160 --> 02:22:27,820 Art McGee. 5343 02:22:28,660 --> 02:22:30,300 Is another great name there. 5344 02:22:30,420 --> 02:22:30,840 What was it? 5345 02:22:30,940 --> 02:22:31,400 Stack gold. 5346 02:22:31,520 --> 02:22:32,840 Jesse Stickgold. 5347 02:22:32,880 --> 02:22:33,080 Sarah. 5348 02:22:33,240 --> 02:22:33,980 I beg your pardon. 5349 02:22:34,820 --> 02:22:36,120 And Art McGee. 5350 02:22:36,700 --> 02:22:38,660 Somebody says they're nicknamed. 5351 02:22:38,800 --> 02:22:40,020 The other folks have come in. 5352 02:22:40,160 --> 02:22:41,300 And around the same time. 5353 02:22:41,480 --> 02:22:43,180 And now they're big business. 5354 02:22:43,400 --> 02:22:44,380 And portals. 5355 02:22:44,460 --> 02:22:45,690 And all this crazy terms going 5356 02:22:45,690 --> 02:22:46,000 on. 5357 02:22:46,480 --> 02:22:47,360 Well I don't know if I was at 5358 02:22:47,360 --> 02:22:47,880 Portal. 5359 02:22:47,960 --> 02:22:48,620 Because one of the things. 5360 02:22:48,800 --> 02:22:50,160 That I think is really exciting. 5361 02:22:50,160 --> 02:22:51,360 About the portals today. 5362 02:22:51,540 --> 02:22:52,080 Is that. 5363 02:22:52,080 --> 02:22:52,900 They really. 5364 02:22:53,120 --> 02:22:55,080 Really exciting about the portals. 5365 02:22:55,260 --> 02:22:56,640 Do strive to match you up with 5366 02:22:56,640 --> 02:22:57,580 other people. 5367 02:22:57,840 --> 02:22:59,000 A study came out from Carnegie 5368 02:22:59,000 --> 02:23:00,420 Mellon University today. 5369 02:23:00,540 --> 02:23:01,520 Saying that web surfing. 5370 02:23:02,020 --> 02:23:02,460 And internet. 5371 02:23:02,620 --> 02:23:03,200 Time on the internet. 5372 02:23:03,300 --> 02:23:04,500 Is a depressing activity. 5373 02:23:04,740 --> 02:23:04,800 Like. 5374 02:23:04,940 --> 02:23:05,720 You know I saw that. 5375 02:23:05,720 --> 02:23:06,080 That's right. 5376 02:23:06,140 --> 02:23:06,620 If you do that. 5377 02:23:06,660 --> 02:23:07,540 You will end up just a little 5378 02:23:07,540 --> 02:23:08,320 bit more depressed. 5379 02:23:08,500 --> 02:23:09,540 Than you were before you got on. 5380 02:23:09,640 --> 02:23:10,180 And so I think. 5381 02:23:10,560 --> 02:23:11,020 It's true. 5382 02:23:11,020 --> 02:23:11,720 We're trying to do that. 5383 02:23:11,720 --> 02:23:13,140 To remedy this. 5384 02:23:13,240 --> 02:23:14,860 Is to hook people up. 5385 02:23:14,920 --> 02:23:15,660 Instant messaging. 5386 02:23:15,920 --> 02:23:16,240 Email. 5387 02:23:16,440 --> 02:23:16,960 All this stuff. 5388 02:23:17,080 --> 02:23:17,920 Get people online. 5389 02:23:18,020 --> 02:23:18,860 Personal web pages. 5390 02:23:19,280 --> 02:23:20,540 They're not really selling us. 5391 02:23:20,680 --> 02:23:20,880 You know. 5392 02:23:20,880 --> 02:23:22,420 Telling us out the box there. 5393 02:23:22,520 --> 02:23:23,460 That it's a depressing. 5394 02:23:24,280 --> 02:23:25,060 Thing to be doing. 5395 02:23:25,140 --> 02:23:25,820 Going on the internet. 5396 02:23:25,960 --> 02:23:26,320 The show. 5397 02:23:26,440 --> 02:23:27,460 The show's geared towards 5398 02:23:27,460 --> 02:23:27,960 people. 5399 02:23:28,020 --> 02:23:28,940 Who are going on the internet. 5400 02:23:28,940 --> 02:23:30,000 Was the problem with links. 5401 02:23:30,180 --> 02:23:32,580 To links.net. 5402 02:23:32,660 --> 02:23:33,320 Links from the underground. 5403 02:23:33,760 --> 02:23:34,340 Was that it. 5404 02:23:34,440 --> 02:23:35,580 It was a solo activity. 5405 02:23:35,660 --> 02:23:36,400 I was doing all this. 5406 02:23:36,500 --> 02:23:37,400 But people would write in. 5407 02:23:37,480 --> 02:23:38,450 And I had nowhere to put their 5408 02:23:38,450 --> 02:23:38,860 stuff. 5409 02:23:38,960 --> 02:23:39,550 And I knew that all these 5410 02:23:39,550 --> 02:23:39,920 people. 5411 02:23:40,040 --> 02:23:40,740 Were buzzing around it. 5412 02:23:40,760 --> 02:23:41,840 But there was no way for them. 5413 02:23:41,840 --> 02:23:42,780 To kind of get together. 5414 02:23:42,860 --> 02:23:43,900 And talk about what was going 5415 02:23:43,900 --> 02:23:44,160 on. 5416 02:23:44,280 --> 02:23:44,440 And so. 5417 02:23:44,440 --> 02:23:44,540 Okay. 5418 02:23:44,580 --> 02:23:45,280 Now I get a sense. 5419 02:23:45,320 --> 02:23:46,060 You're leading into. 5420 02:23:46,200 --> 02:23:46,840 I'm leading into. 5421 02:23:46,840 --> 02:23:47,800 Your new site here. 5422 02:23:47,800 --> 02:23:48,080 That's right. 5423 02:23:48,240 --> 02:23:48,480 Okay. 5424 02:23:48,480 --> 02:23:49,440 Which is more permeable. 5425 02:23:49,620 --> 02:23:50,360 Which is what's exciting. 5426 02:23:50,580 --> 02:23:52,260 Because it's just a structure. 5427 02:23:52,440 --> 02:23:53,320 And a lot of other people. 5428 02:23:53,460 --> 02:23:54,580 Have built what's actually. 5429 02:23:55,200 --> 02:23:55,500 You know. 5430 02:23:55,500 --> 02:23:56,000 The walls. 5431 02:23:56,140 --> 02:23:56,640 If it's a building. 5432 02:23:56,740 --> 02:23:57,760 I put up the framework. 5433 02:23:57,880 --> 02:23:58,920 Everybody else did the stuff. 5434 02:23:59,000 --> 02:23:59,920 That's inside of it. 5435 02:24:00,000 --> 02:24:01,080 So let's start with the name. 5436 02:24:01,380 --> 02:24:02,440 Bud.com. 5437 02:24:02,520 --> 02:24:03,880 What does Bud.com mean? 5438 02:24:03,880 --> 02:24:04,820 It's extremely short. 5439 02:24:05,140 --> 02:24:06,440 Sounds like they said Bud.com. 5440 02:24:06,440 --> 02:24:07,820 But it's Bud.com. 5441 02:24:07,960 --> 02:24:08,320 Memorable. 5442 02:24:09,020 --> 02:24:09,420 Friendly. 5443 02:24:09,520 --> 02:24:09,700 Right. 5444 02:24:09,760 --> 02:24:09,980 I mean. 5445 02:24:10,360 --> 02:24:11,100 It has the. 5446 02:24:11,160 --> 02:24:11,860 It's memorable. 5447 02:24:12,040 --> 02:24:12,600 It's friendly. 5448 02:24:12,720 --> 02:24:13,820 It's a friendly site. 5449 02:24:14,080 --> 02:24:14,960 It's nice and friendly. 5450 02:24:15,960 --> 02:24:17,000 Bud.com. 5451 02:24:17,820 --> 02:24:19,080 Is it still going? 5452 02:24:22,300 --> 02:24:23,980 It's always a risky one. 5453 02:24:24,000 --> 02:24:24,360 Isn't it? 5454 02:24:24,560 --> 02:24:25,220 We don't know. 5455 02:24:25,860 --> 02:24:26,120 Yeah. 5456 02:24:26,200 --> 02:24:26,500 It's. 5457 02:24:26,540 --> 02:24:28,110 It's exactly as you think it 5458 02:24:28,110 --> 02:24:28,820 would be. 5459 02:24:30,680 --> 02:24:31,980 It's a weed site. 5460 02:24:33,740 --> 02:24:35,000 Selling Gange. 5461 02:24:36,820 --> 02:24:37,420 Probably. 5462 02:24:37,660 --> 02:24:38,820 Vape pens. 5463 02:24:39,780 --> 02:24:40,880 And THC. 5464 02:24:40,960 --> 02:24:41,680 Ah flower. 5465 02:24:42,720 --> 02:24:43,280 Grinders. 5466 02:24:43,940 --> 02:24:44,720 Lava cake. 5467 02:24:44,880 --> 02:24:45,640 Delta eight. 5468 02:24:45,640 --> 02:24:46,600 Moon rocks. 5469 02:24:47,560 --> 02:24:48,980 With the obligatory. 5470 02:24:49,180 --> 02:24:50,560 Take me to your dealer. 5471 02:24:51,160 --> 02:24:52,280 Stoner alien. 5472 02:24:53,160 --> 02:24:53,920 From area. 5473 02:24:54,120 --> 02:24:54,840 Fifty one. 5474 02:24:55,660 --> 02:25:00,040 Big stones. 5475 02:25:00,040 --> 02:25:01,340 It says. 5476 02:25:02,340 --> 02:25:03,240 Moon dust. 5477 02:25:05,460 --> 02:25:06,320 Or you can get yourself a bag 5478 02:25:06,320 --> 02:25:08,540 of happy nights. 5479 02:25:08,880 --> 02:25:09,460 With a Z. 5480 02:25:10,120 --> 02:25:12,020 And then a few other. 5481 02:25:12,280 --> 02:25:13,440 Follow up Zeds. 5482 02:25:14,120 --> 02:25:15,380 To create the. 5483 02:25:15,380 --> 02:25:16,260 The sleep. 5484 02:25:16,820 --> 02:25:17,440 Sign. 5485 02:25:17,540 --> 02:25:18,240 The sleep signal. 5486 02:25:18,580 --> 02:25:19,120 Of Zeds. 5487 02:25:20,120 --> 02:25:21,400 And there's some blood moon 5488 02:25:21,400 --> 02:25:21,940 orange. 5489 02:25:22,040 --> 02:25:22,840 Happy nights. 5490 02:25:22,840 --> 02:25:25,040 Delta nine plus CBD. 5491 02:25:26,180 --> 02:25:28,580 200 milligram blood moons. 5492 02:25:30,580 --> 02:25:31,620 Melatonin. 5493 02:25:32,040 --> 02:25:33,680 Plus delta nine. 5494 02:25:34,540 --> 02:25:35,560 Happy days. 5495 02:25:36,400 --> 02:25:37,260 Limited edition. 5496 02:25:38,740 --> 02:25:40,300 Or how about this. 5497 02:25:40,380 --> 02:25:42,500 Get yourself a bag of Piff Raider. 5498 02:25:43,500 --> 02:25:44,960 F2 Piff Raider. 5499 02:25:45,500 --> 02:25:46,880 Or West Coast. 5500 02:25:47,380 --> 02:25:48,680 Golden Haze. 5501 02:25:50,680 --> 02:25:51,150 Do you want a bag of fucking 5502 02:25:51,150 --> 02:25:53,020 polar bears man? 5503 02:25:54,880 --> 02:25:55,880 Have you got any of that marine 5504 02:25:55,880 --> 02:25:57,320 layer left? 5505 02:25:59,320 --> 02:26:00,840 Fucking anxiety on it. 5506 02:26:02,180 --> 02:26:03,720 My head's wrecked from all that 5507 02:26:03,720 --> 02:26:05,110 fucking marine layer you gave 5508 02:26:05,110 --> 02:26:05,480 me. 5509 02:26:07,980 --> 02:26:08,050 Might just take the edge off 5510 02:26:08,050 --> 02:26:10,790 with a bit of jungle cake delta 5511 02:26:10,790 --> 02:26:12,020 nine hash. 5512 02:26:12,760 --> 02:26:13,880 Infused pre-roll. 5513 02:26:13,880 --> 02:26:16,660 And then you've got a temple 5514 02:26:16,660 --> 02:26:17,520 ball. 5515 02:26:18,060 --> 02:26:18,780 Pressed. 5516 02:26:20,560 --> 02:26:21,380 Hashman do. 5517 02:26:22,060 --> 02:26:22,460 Hitman. 5518 02:26:22,460 --> 02:26:24,060 By none other. 5519 02:26:24,620 --> 02:26:26,020 Than Hitman Hash. 5520 02:26:31,660 --> 02:26:32,700 Hitman Hash. 5521 02:26:33,520 --> 02:26:35,280 It's like a killer has entered 5522 02:26:35,280 --> 02:26:36,500 your brain. 5523 02:26:38,500 --> 02:26:40,360 And he's fucking taking you out. 5524 02:26:41,660 --> 02:26:42,430 And then you've got all your 5525 02:26:42,430 --> 02:26:43,760 accessories. 5526 02:26:44,580 --> 02:26:45,020 Merch. 5527 02:26:45,200 --> 02:26:46,260 If you really want to. 5528 02:26:46,680 --> 02:26:48,100 Advertise the fact that you're 5529 02:26:48,100 --> 02:26:49,020 a drug user. 5530 02:26:50,720 --> 02:26:51,880 Rolling Derby. 5531 02:26:51,880 --> 02:26:54,580 Hash. 5532 02:26:54,940 --> 02:26:56,410 Just going around with a shirt 5533 02:26:56,410 --> 02:26:57,860 that says Hash on it. 5534 02:26:59,420 --> 02:27:00,120 You'll definitely be the toast 5535 02:27:00,120 --> 02:27:02,120 of the town wearing that. 5536 02:27:03,820 --> 02:27:04,340 Smoke. 5537 02:27:05,760 --> 02:27:06,280 Fuego. 5538 02:27:06,600 --> 02:27:07,820 I wonder were Lego. 5539 02:27:08,740 --> 02:27:09,880 Consulted about that. 5540 02:27:10,660 --> 02:27:11,890 It's hard to really imagine 5541 02:27:11,890 --> 02:27:12,920 they were. 5542 02:27:13,820 --> 02:27:15,580 Or even North Face. 5543 02:27:16,520 --> 02:27:17,040 Blunt. 5544 02:27:17,440 --> 02:27:18,700 To the face. 5545 02:27:20,700 --> 02:27:22,080 Blunt to the face. 5546 02:27:23,160 --> 02:27:25,440 And the list goes on and on. 5547 02:27:27,440 --> 02:27:29,140 A stoner astronaut. 5548 02:27:29,140 --> 02:27:29,280 A stoner astronaut. 5549 02:27:30,900 --> 02:27:32,160 Locked to his chair. 5550 02:27:33,500 --> 02:27:34,540 And I don't know what's with 5551 02:27:34,540 --> 02:27:35,840 the skulls. 5552 02:27:36,040 --> 02:27:36,340 Like you know. 5553 02:27:37,040 --> 02:27:37,960 The kind of. 5554 02:27:38,620 --> 02:27:40,030 Linking it to a sort of death 5555 02:27:40,030 --> 02:27:40,780 state. 5556 02:27:42,320 --> 02:27:43,780 Whatever it is you're smoking. 5557 02:27:43,780 --> 02:27:44,990 Or whatever it is that you're 5558 02:27:44,990 --> 02:27:45,280 on. 5559 02:27:46,080 --> 02:27:47,220 You're just going to be like. 5560 02:27:47,340 --> 02:27:48,550 You're as good as a fucking 5561 02:27:48,550 --> 02:27:49,080 skull. 5562 02:27:49,080 --> 02:27:49,920 On a couch. 5563 02:27:50,120 --> 02:27:50,900 On a chair. 5564 02:27:52,140 --> 02:27:53,390 But you've got a space suit on 5565 02:27:53,390 --> 02:27:54,380 as well. 5566 02:27:54,440 --> 02:27:55,300 Taking up space. 5567 02:27:55,440 --> 02:27:56,220 It's a laugh. 5568 02:27:56,280 --> 02:27:57,700 It's a fun and friendly way. 5569 02:27:58,160 --> 02:27:59,920 To show that you do use drugs. 5570 02:27:59,980 --> 02:28:00,280 You know. 5571 02:28:00,540 --> 02:28:01,460 And hi again. 5572 02:28:01,660 --> 02:28:02,060 Again. 5573 02:28:02,060 --> 02:28:03,140 I'm not sure whether or not. 5574 02:28:03,240 --> 02:28:03,600 Heineken. 5575 02:28:04,400 --> 02:28:05,020 Could even. 5576 02:28:05,480 --> 02:28:06,860 Launch a successful suit. 5577 02:28:06,940 --> 02:28:08,240 Because it might actually be. 5578 02:28:09,780 --> 02:28:10,980 It might have. 5579 02:28:11,480 --> 02:28:12,940 Just twisted it enough. 5580 02:28:13,060 --> 02:28:13,940 That it doesn't. 5581 02:28:14,940 --> 02:28:15,560 Encroach. 5582 02:28:15,700 --> 02:28:16,520 On any copyright. 5583 02:28:18,200 --> 02:28:19,460 Just doobit. 5584 02:28:20,320 --> 02:28:21,880 The Nike swoosh. 5585 02:28:22,180 --> 02:28:24,320 Which has turned into a joint. 5586 02:28:25,140 --> 02:28:25,560 There. 5587 02:28:25,700 --> 02:28:26,780 Doesn't really make sense. 5588 02:28:26,900 --> 02:28:27,260 Because. 5589 02:28:28,940 --> 02:28:30,340 It's like the Nike swoosh. 5590 02:28:30,340 --> 02:28:31,140 Has started there. 5591 02:28:31,240 --> 02:28:32,440 And then that's the end of the 5592 02:28:32,440 --> 02:28:32,940 joint. 5593 02:28:33,060 --> 02:28:33,840 You'd think the end of the 5594 02:28:33,840 --> 02:28:34,220 joint. 5595 02:28:34,220 --> 02:28:34,980 Would be there. 5596 02:28:35,180 --> 02:28:36,080 And then you smoke. 5597 02:28:36,140 --> 02:28:37,460 At the beginning of the swoosh. 5598 02:28:39,040 --> 02:28:40,080 Doesn't make sense. 5599 02:28:40,160 --> 02:28:40,480 But I mean. 5600 02:28:40,540 --> 02:28:41,660 I don't really think. 5601 02:28:41,960 --> 02:28:43,080 Any purveyors. 5602 02:28:43,220 --> 02:28:44,140 Of such merch. 5603 02:28:45,020 --> 02:28:46,040 Or any merchants. 5604 02:28:46,320 --> 02:28:46,880 Would be. 5605 02:28:47,120 --> 02:28:47,940 That bothered. 5606 02:28:48,040 --> 02:28:48,580 About that. 5607 02:28:48,620 --> 02:28:48,940 To be honest. 5608 02:28:48,960 --> 02:28:50,200 If you've made the leap. 5609 02:28:50,300 --> 02:28:51,340 To buying that shirt. 5610 02:28:51,420 --> 02:28:52,160 For $19. 5611 02:28:53,600 --> 02:28:54,720 I don't think. 5612 02:28:54,780 --> 02:28:56,280 Your critical faculties. 5613 02:28:56,400 --> 02:28:57,260 Are really going. 5614 02:28:57,260 --> 02:28:58,180 To be stretched. 5615 02:28:58,720 --> 02:28:59,600 So far. 5616 02:28:59,760 --> 02:29:00,680 As to really. 5617 02:29:00,920 --> 02:29:01,100 Go. 5618 02:29:01,220 --> 02:29:01,700 Do you know what. 5619 02:29:01,700 --> 02:29:03,020 It doesn't really make sense. 5620 02:29:06,140 --> 02:29:07,180 Smoking doinks. 5621 02:29:07,860 --> 02:29:09,040 For Dunkin Donuts. 5622 02:29:10,920 --> 02:29:11,580 And there's. 5623 02:29:11,660 --> 02:29:12,580 There's a lot of stuff. 5624 02:29:12,680 --> 02:29:13,220 There as well. 5625 02:29:13,300 --> 02:29:14,300 Some Christmas stuff. 5626 02:29:14,440 --> 02:29:15,020 For the season. 5627 02:29:15,140 --> 02:29:15,640 That's in it. 5628 02:29:17,480 --> 02:29:17,880 Marijuana. 5629 02:29:17,880 --> 02:29:21,080 And look at that. 5630 02:29:23,080 --> 02:29:24,220 Family would love that. 5631 02:29:24,300 --> 02:29:25,350 If you turned up to Christmas 5632 02:29:25,350 --> 02:29:25,980 Day dinner. 5633 02:29:26,680 --> 02:29:27,560 With that. 5634 02:29:28,300 --> 02:29:28,660 You know. 5635 02:29:28,720 --> 02:29:29,440 Wearing that. 5636 02:29:30,800 --> 02:29:31,060 How. 5637 02:29:31,200 --> 02:29:31,940 How are things. 5638 02:29:32,300 --> 02:29:32,620 Hi. 5639 02:29:33,480 --> 02:29:33,940 How are. 5640 02:29:34,060 --> 02:29:34,400 Grand. 5641 02:29:34,960 --> 02:29:35,400 Grandma. 5642 02:29:35,620 --> 02:29:36,200 Granddad. 5643 02:29:36,360 --> 02:29:37,120 How are things. 5644 02:29:37,120 --> 02:29:38,660 And your cousins. 5645 02:29:38,860 --> 02:29:39,440 That you haven't seen. 5646 02:29:39,560 --> 02:29:39,980 For a while. 5647 02:29:41,360 --> 02:29:41,980 You just. 5648 02:29:41,980 --> 02:29:42,560 You're wearing. 5649 02:29:42,560 --> 02:29:43,440 You're wearing Santa Claus. 5650 02:29:44,560 --> 02:29:45,520 Getting baked. 5651 02:29:46,560 --> 02:29:47,760 And then it's just. 5652 02:29:47,760 --> 02:29:49,520 It devolves into a meme. 5653 02:29:49,880 --> 02:29:50,400 Realm. 5654 02:29:50,880 --> 02:29:51,220 Jumper. 5655 02:29:51,320 --> 02:29:51,760 Christmas. 5656 02:29:52,560 --> 02:29:52,960 Jumper. 5657 02:29:53,320 --> 02:29:53,880 Situation. 5658 02:29:54,100 --> 02:29:55,000 I haven't seen any. 5659 02:29:55,080 --> 02:29:55,780 AI stuff. 5660 02:29:55,940 --> 02:29:56,480 But then again. 5661 02:29:56,480 --> 02:29:57,180 It might be. 5662 02:29:57,300 --> 02:29:58,460 That might be an AI. 5663 02:29:59,400 --> 02:29:59,840 Situation. 5664 02:29:59,840 --> 02:30:01,500 You know. 5665 02:30:01,580 --> 02:30:02,120 Hanging out. 5666 02:30:02,220 --> 02:30:03,120 Eating Christmas dinner. 5667 02:30:05,780 --> 02:30:06,720 Wearing that. 5668 02:30:10,220 --> 02:30:11,760 But that's Bud.com. 5669 02:30:12,380 --> 02:30:12,720 It's. 5670 02:30:12,780 --> 02:30:13,620 It's amazing to see. 5671 02:30:13,720 --> 02:30:14,960 The way these things develop. 5672 02:30:14,960 --> 02:30:15,440 Isn't it? 5673 02:30:15,740 --> 02:30:15,980 You know. 5674 02:30:16,020 --> 02:30:16,860 It started off. 5675 02:30:16,920 --> 02:30:17,620 As a nice. 5676 02:30:18,760 --> 02:30:19,800 Airplanes are dangerous. 5677 02:30:19,940 --> 02:30:20,300 Phobia. 5678 02:30:20,440 --> 02:30:21,360 Provoking machines. 5679 02:30:21,460 --> 02:30:22,220 Whose primary purpose. 5680 02:30:22,300 --> 02:30:23,000 Is the nefarious. 5681 02:30:23,440 --> 02:30:23,820 And dangerous. 5682 02:30:23,900 --> 02:30:24,340 The physical. 5683 02:30:24,800 --> 02:30:25,200 Properties. 5684 02:30:25,300 --> 02:30:25,900 Given the government. 5685 02:30:26,280 --> 02:30:27,240 Doesn't have anything. 5686 02:30:27,240 --> 02:30:28,240 To do with weed. 5687 02:30:30,240 --> 02:30:31,080 The stuff. 5688 02:30:31,160 --> 02:30:32,080 That's inside of it. 5689 02:30:32,160 --> 02:30:33,300 And let's start with the name. 5690 02:30:33,580 --> 02:30:34,580 Bud.com. 5691 02:30:34,780 --> 02:30:36,060 What does Bud.com mean? 5692 02:30:36,060 --> 02:30:36,500 It's extremely. 5693 02:30:36,500 --> 02:30:37,060 Thank you very much. 5694 02:30:37,160 --> 02:30:38,180 Choo Choo Magoo. 5695 02:30:38,260 --> 02:30:38,660 Short. 5696 02:30:38,960 --> 02:30:39,360 Memorable. 5697 02:30:40,000 --> 02:30:40,520 Friendly. 5698 02:30:40,600 --> 02:30:40,760 Right. 5699 02:30:40,840 --> 02:30:41,060 I mean. 5700 02:30:41,420 --> 02:30:42,520 It has a multitude. 5701 02:30:42,700 --> 02:30:43,460 It's friendly. 5702 02:30:43,680 --> 02:30:44,080 Of meaning. 5703 02:30:44,280 --> 02:30:45,640 So it's a kind of common word. 5704 02:30:45,800 --> 02:30:46,620 In a different community. 5705 02:30:46,640 --> 02:30:46,980 And no. 5706 02:30:47,020 --> 02:30:48,840 No lawsuits from Anheuser-Busch. 5707 02:30:49,020 --> 02:30:49,140 For that. 5708 02:30:49,160 --> 02:30:49,300 No. 5709 02:30:49,380 --> 02:30:50,620 They offered me money for it. 5710 02:30:50,660 --> 02:30:51,580 A couple years ago. 5711 02:30:51,720 --> 02:30:52,100 And I said. 5712 02:30:52,200 --> 02:30:52,580 I wasn't interested. 5713 02:30:52,580 --> 02:30:52,960 So I mean. 5714 02:30:53,060 --> 02:30:54,200 It could have been a Budweiser 5715 02:30:54,200 --> 02:30:54,840 situation. 5716 02:30:54,940 --> 02:30:56,340 It was on all my business cards. 5717 02:30:56,760 --> 02:30:57,020 It's. 5718 02:30:57,420 --> 02:30:58,120 I'm getting. 5719 02:30:58,220 --> 02:30:58,720 I'm getting. 5720 02:30:58,720 --> 02:31:00,300 Fucking deja vu here. 5721 02:31:02,800 --> 02:31:03,960 But I swear. 5722 02:31:04,280 --> 02:31:04,500 I could. 5723 02:31:04,580 --> 02:31:05,570 I don't think I've ever seen 5724 02:31:05,570 --> 02:31:06,300 this episode. 5725 02:31:06,420 --> 02:31:06,660 But I. 5726 02:31:06,720 --> 02:31:07,220 I don't know. 5727 02:31:07,280 --> 02:31:08,480 I'm just getting deja vu there. 5728 02:31:08,860 --> 02:31:09,660 Manheuser-Busch. 5729 02:31:09,780 --> 02:31:12,880 The Budweiser boys. 5730 02:31:13,200 --> 02:31:13,800 Smart move. 5731 02:31:13,960 --> 02:31:14,900 Maybe they were mentioned 5732 02:31:14,900 --> 02:31:15,440 before. 5733 02:31:15,580 --> 02:31:16,620 In some other capacity. 5734 02:31:16,840 --> 02:31:17,100 I think. 5735 02:31:17,240 --> 02:31:17,820 It's short. 5736 02:31:17,940 --> 02:31:18,260 And it's. 5737 02:31:18,340 --> 02:31:18,580 You know. 5738 02:31:18,620 --> 02:31:19,140 It's got some. 5739 02:31:19,720 --> 02:31:20,520 Personality to it. 5740 02:31:20,580 --> 02:31:21,400 But it's also like. 5741 02:31:21,460 --> 02:31:22,200 A young plant. 5742 02:31:22,340 --> 02:31:22,520 Okay. 5743 02:31:22,520 --> 02:31:22,600 Right. 5744 02:31:22,600 --> 02:31:23,410 If you want to take it at this 5745 02:31:23,410 --> 02:31:23,760 point. 5746 02:31:23,760 --> 02:31:24,060 Okay. 5747 02:31:24,060 --> 02:31:24,740 And you're. 5748 02:31:24,740 --> 02:31:24,760 Bud. 5749 02:31:24,760 --> 02:31:25,820 Bud.com is right now. 5750 02:31:26,440 --> 02:31:26,520 Yeah. 5751 02:31:26,520 --> 02:31:27,400 Now tell me though. 5752 02:31:27,760 --> 02:31:28,200 You say. 5753 02:31:28,400 --> 02:31:29,850 You've got a community aspect 5754 02:31:29,850 --> 02:31:30,340 to it. 5755 02:31:30,340 --> 02:31:31,160 This is the moment. 5756 02:31:31,520 --> 02:31:32,770 He had the idea to get into 5757 02:31:32,770 --> 02:31:33,780 real estate. 5758 02:31:35,060 --> 02:31:35,500 There. 5759 02:31:35,780 --> 02:31:36,700 Says Calvin. 5760 02:31:37,100 --> 02:31:37,820 At this moment. 5761 02:31:37,940 --> 02:31:39,340 In this particular interview. 5762 02:31:39,480 --> 02:31:40,020 And you can tell. 5763 02:31:40,100 --> 02:31:40,220 He's. 5764 02:31:40,260 --> 02:31:41,240 He's too clean cut. 5765 02:31:41,940 --> 02:31:43,210 He's too much of a hot prospect 5766 02:31:43,210 --> 02:31:44,040 for the future. 5767 02:31:44,160 --> 02:31:44,280 To. 5768 02:31:44,360 --> 02:31:45,200 To remain. 5769 02:31:45,860 --> 02:31:46,920 Tethered to this. 5770 02:31:46,980 --> 02:31:48,040 Netcafé show. 5771 02:31:48,160 --> 02:31:48,440 What. 5772 02:31:48,500 --> 02:31:49,480 What are you doing that. 5773 02:31:49,600 --> 02:31:49,840 You know. 5774 02:31:49,900 --> 02:31:50,680 Is maybe bringing people 5775 02:31:50,680 --> 02:31:51,280 together now. 5776 02:31:51,280 --> 02:31:52,560 That the other site didn't do. 5777 02:31:52,640 --> 02:31:52,760 Well. 5778 02:31:52,820 --> 02:31:53,680 I think if you look at the 5779 02:31:53,680 --> 02:31:54,780 front page of Bud.com. 5780 02:31:54,860 --> 02:31:55,360 You see that. 5781 02:31:55,900 --> 02:31:56,900 You don't even know who put it 5782 02:31:56,900 --> 02:31:57,680 together. 5783 02:31:58,120 --> 02:31:59,460 To know that I put it together. 5784 02:31:59,460 --> 02:32:00,340 You'd have to go to my other 5785 02:32:00,340 --> 02:32:00,760 web page. 5786 02:32:00,860 --> 02:32:01,380 So it's. 5787 02:32:01,380 --> 02:32:02,240 It's an open structure. 5788 02:32:02,360 --> 02:32:03,160 It's not branded. 5789 02:32:03,380 --> 02:32:04,480 It's not got a name. 5790 02:32:04,560 --> 02:32:05,580 Other than its own entity. 5791 02:32:05,940 --> 02:32:06,980 And when you go to that entity. 5792 02:32:07,140 --> 02:32:07,700 You're seeing. 5793 02:32:08,020 --> 02:32:08,820 Names of all the people. 5794 02:32:09,700 --> 02:32:09,900 Oh. 5795 02:32:10,560 --> 02:32:10,960 1998. 5796 02:32:11,540 --> 02:32:12,820 Osama bin Laden. 5797 02:32:13,320 --> 02:32:14,460 Class of 85. 5798 02:32:18,040 --> 02:32:18,880 Look at that. 5799 02:32:20,200 --> 02:32:20,920 A prelude. 5800 02:32:20,920 --> 02:32:22,260 Even before. 5801 02:32:22,640 --> 02:32:23,340 He had done. 5802 02:32:24,240 --> 02:32:25,830 That crazy fucking thing that 5803 02:32:25,830 --> 02:32:26,640 he did. 5804 02:32:28,160 --> 02:32:30,120 He was a hyper link. 5805 02:32:30,440 --> 02:32:31,000 Hyper text. 5806 02:32:31,140 --> 02:32:32,460 Markup language link. 5807 02:32:32,800 --> 02:32:35,560 On a weird site called Bud.com. 5808 02:32:36,440 --> 02:32:37,910 So we're coming full circle 5809 02:32:37,910 --> 02:32:38,620 here. 5810 02:32:39,360 --> 02:32:39,660 Do you know. 5811 02:32:40,200 --> 02:32:40,900 This once. 5812 02:32:41,160 --> 02:32:41,320 You know. 5813 02:32:41,380 --> 02:32:42,530 We're laughing at some of the 5814 02:32:42,530 --> 02:32:43,140 products. 5815 02:32:43,240 --> 02:32:44,140 That they have here. 5816 02:32:45,680 --> 02:32:46,660 Zaza slut. 5817 02:32:47,900 --> 02:32:48,300 And. 5818 02:32:48,680 --> 02:32:50,220 Weed in the wrestling font. 5819 02:32:51,320 --> 02:32:51,480 But. 5820 02:32:51,860 --> 02:32:52,640 Little known fact. 5821 02:32:52,720 --> 02:32:53,480 Back in the day. 5822 02:32:54,300 --> 02:32:55,480 This site had something about 5823 02:32:55,480 --> 02:32:56,720 bin Laden on it. 5824 02:32:56,860 --> 02:32:58,200 Before he'd even done. 5825 02:32:58,740 --> 02:33:00,080 The fucking bad thing. 5826 02:33:02,220 --> 02:33:02,620 But he was being built up 5827 02:33:02,620 --> 02:33:03,800 anyway. 5828 02:33:03,900 --> 02:33:04,080 You know. 5829 02:33:05,040 --> 02:33:05,980 He was being. 5830 02:33:06,940 --> 02:33:07,420 Primed. 5831 02:33:07,640 --> 02:33:08,120 Shall we say. 5832 02:33:08,180 --> 02:33:09,780 Because I remember even in 1998. 5833 02:33:10,140 --> 02:33:10,480 Maybe. 5834 02:33:10,700 --> 02:33:11,400 Hearing about him. 5835 02:33:12,140 --> 02:33:12,520 Then. 5836 02:33:13,700 --> 02:33:14,560 So he wasn't. 5837 02:33:14,640 --> 02:33:15,560 He wasn't like a. 5838 02:33:15,680 --> 02:33:17,130 It wasn't a fresh new name on 5839 02:33:17,130 --> 02:33:17,940 the scene. 5840 02:33:18,020 --> 02:33:19,140 When 9-11 happened. 5841 02:33:19,320 --> 02:33:19,840 It was like. 5842 02:33:19,960 --> 02:33:20,500 All right. 5843 02:33:20,560 --> 02:33:21,460 That's that book. 5844 02:33:21,600 --> 02:33:22,700 That was going on about a few 5845 02:33:22,700 --> 02:33:23,360 years ago. 5846 02:33:24,100 --> 02:33:26,020 When they did an airstrike. 5847 02:33:26,440 --> 02:33:27,060 I think. 5848 02:33:27,180 --> 02:33:28,100 Out in North Africa. 5849 02:33:28,260 --> 02:33:29,260 Or somewhere like that. 5850 02:33:29,260 --> 02:33:31,300 I remember Bill Clinton. 5851 02:33:31,300 --> 02:33:32,220 Being on the telly. 5852 02:33:32,460 --> 02:33:32,860 Going. 5853 02:33:33,380 --> 02:33:33,780 Today. 5854 02:33:33,940 --> 02:33:35,360 We've done some airstrikes. 5855 02:33:36,180 --> 02:33:36,380 Blah. 5856 02:33:36,400 --> 02:33:36,500 Blah. 5857 02:33:36,540 --> 02:33:36,840 Blah. 5858 02:33:37,120 --> 02:33:38,560 It's this bin Laden guy. 5859 02:33:40,000 --> 02:33:41,580 And then he came on the scene. 5860 02:33:41,780 --> 02:33:41,900 You know. 5861 02:33:42,040 --> 02:33:42,920 I don't need to tell you what 5862 02:33:42,920 --> 02:33:43,640 happened next. 5863 02:33:43,760 --> 02:33:44,980 We all know what happened there. 5864 02:33:45,060 --> 02:33:45,400 Don't we. 5865 02:33:45,480 --> 02:33:46,580 In the stuff that comprises. 5866 02:33:46,720 --> 02:33:47,120 Bud.com. 5867 02:33:47,200 --> 02:33:48,100 So there's links out to the. 5868 02:33:48,380 --> 02:33:49,380 And saving. 5869 02:33:50,020 --> 02:33:51,180 Private Ryan's. 5870 02:33:51,620 --> 02:33:52,680 And there you have it. 5871 02:33:52,720 --> 02:33:52,980 I mean. 5872 02:33:53,160 --> 02:33:53,420 Look. 5873 02:33:53,560 --> 02:33:55,010 Some strange stuff on this 5874 02:33:55,010 --> 02:33:56,420 fucking Bud.com. 5875 02:33:57,040 --> 02:33:57,580 I tell you. 5876 02:33:57,680 --> 02:33:58,480 Death is good. 5877 02:33:58,580 --> 02:33:59,940 By Ethan Belland. 5878 02:34:00,540 --> 02:34:02,100 Or Ethan Broadband. 5879 02:34:05,160 --> 02:34:06,080 Y2K offer. 5880 02:34:08,840 --> 02:34:09,900 It's crazy isn't it? 5881 02:34:09,900 --> 02:34:10,740 There's no pieces of writing. 5882 02:34:10,860 --> 02:34:11,280 There's poems. 5883 02:34:11,520 --> 02:34:12,610 What else are we going to find 5884 02:34:12,610 --> 02:34:13,040 here? 5885 02:34:14,520 --> 02:34:16,760 Plastic Seed by Luness. 5886 02:34:18,220 --> 02:34:20,060 What is a Geek by Misuba. 5887 02:34:21,000 --> 02:34:22,160 Who are these people? 5888 02:34:22,300 --> 02:34:22,400 What. 5889 02:34:23,000 --> 02:34:24,460 Who are all these guys? 5890 02:34:24,800 --> 02:34:25,280 Darby. 5891 02:34:26,020 --> 02:34:26,660 Lotta Cash. 5892 02:34:26,780 --> 02:34:27,120 Jenny. 5893 02:34:27,440 --> 02:34:27,820 Decker. 5894 02:34:27,980 --> 02:34:28,600 Al Decker. 5895 02:34:29,160 --> 02:34:30,000 Eve Bradford. 5896 02:34:30,240 --> 02:34:30,780 Buy Bubble. 5897 02:34:32,700 --> 02:34:33,660 Bin Laden. 5898 02:34:35,120 --> 02:34:36,380 Stories of pieces of music. 5899 02:34:36,700 --> 02:34:37,640 That people have put together. 5900 02:34:37,740 --> 02:34:38,540 And all that stuff. 5901 02:34:38,680 --> 02:34:40,110 It has the name of the creators 5902 02:34:40,110 --> 02:34:40,580 on it. 5903 02:34:41,200 --> 02:34:41,480 Promotently. 5904 02:34:41,480 --> 02:34:42,120 It's an original. 5905 02:34:42,120 --> 02:34:43,680 It's an original piece of work. 5906 02:34:43,840 --> 02:34:44,160 Yeah. 5907 02:34:44,200 --> 02:34:44,380 Well. 5908 02:34:44,500 --> 02:34:45,100 Or it's. 5909 02:34:45,100 --> 02:34:45,900 It's their. 5910 02:34:46,140 --> 02:34:47,220 Take on something. 5911 02:34:47,400 --> 02:34:48,490 That is someone else's original 5912 02:34:48,490 --> 02:34:49,180 piece of work. 5913 02:34:49,260 --> 02:34:49,860 But it's their. 5914 02:34:50,140 --> 02:34:50,340 You know. 5915 02:34:50,400 --> 02:34:51,640 Everybody's putting their stamp 5916 02:34:51,640 --> 02:34:52,200 on things. 5917 02:34:52,300 --> 02:34:54,080 And that looks ominous as well. 5918 02:34:54,420 --> 02:34:55,020 I don't know. 5919 02:34:55,180 --> 02:34:55,640 Am I. 5920 02:34:55,740 --> 02:34:57,100 Am I going too far here? 5921 02:34:59,600 --> 02:35:00,820 Something a little bit. 5922 02:35:00,980 --> 02:35:02,250 That's another like a drug 5923 02:35:02,250 --> 02:35:04,000 reference from the 90s. 5924 02:35:04,060 --> 02:35:04,300 You know. 5925 02:35:04,520 --> 02:35:05,140 Like those. 5926 02:35:06,820 --> 02:35:07,980 Those clothes that you could 5927 02:35:07,980 --> 02:35:08,940 get that were banned. 5928 02:35:09,120 --> 02:35:10,880 That said spliffy on them. 5929 02:35:11,020 --> 02:35:11,660 Or eclipse. 5930 02:35:12,660 --> 02:35:13,400 Or naff. 5931 02:35:13,520 --> 02:35:14,460 Naff 54. 5932 02:35:14,900 --> 02:35:15,540 And kind of giving you their 5933 02:35:15,540 --> 02:35:16,240 perspective. 5934 02:35:16,720 --> 02:35:17,780 And what's great is that all 5935 02:35:17,780 --> 02:35:18,400 those. 5936 02:35:18,660 --> 02:35:19,580 Each link. 5937 02:35:19,680 --> 02:35:19,920 Right. 5938 02:35:20,040 --> 02:35:20,620 Is two links. 5939 02:35:20,680 --> 02:35:22,000 That letter sent home from the 5940 02:35:22,000 --> 02:35:22,900 primary school. 5941 02:35:23,000 --> 02:35:23,600 To the parents. 5942 02:35:23,740 --> 02:35:24,700 That said these jackets are 5943 02:35:24,700 --> 02:35:25,440 going around. 5944 02:35:25,700 --> 02:35:26,630 And they're not allowed in 5945 02:35:26,630 --> 02:35:27,160 school. 5946 02:35:27,980 --> 02:35:28,910 And it just had a picture of a 5947 02:35:28,910 --> 02:35:30,700 fucking stoner on them. 5948 02:35:31,740 --> 02:35:31,900 You know. 5949 02:35:31,960 --> 02:35:33,300 But kids were wearing them. 5950 02:35:33,840 --> 02:35:34,280 What would. 5951 02:35:34,400 --> 02:35:35,940 Where were the parents? 5952 02:35:36,620 --> 02:35:37,380 And if they were there. 5953 02:35:37,440 --> 02:35:37,840 They were just. 5954 02:35:38,380 --> 02:35:39,180 They didn't care. 5955 02:35:39,240 --> 02:35:40,180 The parents didn't care. 5956 02:35:40,180 --> 02:35:41,020 Because you get the. 5957 02:35:41,040 --> 02:35:41,930 The thing that they're talking 5958 02:35:41,930 --> 02:35:42,220 about. 5959 02:35:42,320 --> 02:35:42,940 That's out on the web. 5960 02:35:43,040 --> 02:35:44,200 That's part of internet culture. 5961 02:35:44,640 --> 02:35:45,700 Very Silent Hill. 5962 02:35:45,800 --> 02:35:46,680 Captain Hicks. 5963 02:35:48,040 --> 02:35:48,280 Link. 5964 02:35:48,420 --> 02:35:48,600 Because. 5965 02:35:48,600 --> 02:35:54,320 Very bizarre stuff indeed. 5966 02:35:57,600 --> 02:35:58,500 Sort of like. 5967 02:35:58,600 --> 02:35:59,000 A fucking. 5968 02:35:59,960 --> 02:36:00,920 Mr. Ben. 5969 02:36:01,820 --> 02:36:02,560 Situation there. 5970 02:36:04,120 --> 02:36:05,020 And then. 5971 02:36:05,660 --> 02:36:06,700 A Silent Hill. 5972 02:36:07,120 --> 02:36:07,600 Face. 5973 02:36:08,300 --> 02:36:08,780 You get the. 5974 02:36:08,820 --> 02:36:09,710 The thing that they're talking 5975 02:36:09,710 --> 02:36:10,000 about. 5976 02:36:10,080 --> 02:36:10,720 That's out on the web. 5977 02:36:10,820 --> 02:36:11,960 That's part of internet culture. 5978 02:36:12,600 --> 02:36:14,040 And you get their link. 5979 02:36:14,100 --> 02:36:14,620 To their personal. 5980 02:36:14,740 --> 02:36:15,960 Step inside. 5981 02:36:16,240 --> 02:36:17,220 My parlor. 5982 02:36:17,220 --> 02:36:20,260 Web page. 5983 02:36:20,340 --> 02:36:21,120 So you get the mingling. 5984 02:36:21,260 --> 02:36:22,220 Of personal perspective. 5985 02:36:22,220 --> 02:36:22,660 Of the people. 5986 02:36:22,780 --> 02:36:23,600 Who are putting in stuff. 5987 02:36:23,680 --> 02:36:24,360 The other readers. 5988 02:36:24,860 --> 02:36:25,480 And you're getting. 5989 02:36:25,640 --> 02:36:26,040 Whatever it is. 5990 02:36:26,120 --> 02:36:26,320 You know. 5991 02:36:26,380 --> 02:36:27,660 And then on the front of house. 5992 02:36:27,720 --> 02:36:28,440 It's this guy. 5993 02:36:29,800 --> 02:36:30,440 Who seems like. 5994 02:36:30,580 --> 02:36:31,060 A nice. 5995 02:36:31,140 --> 02:36:31,920 Affable fella. 5996 02:36:32,780 --> 02:36:33,060 You know. 5997 02:36:33,400 --> 02:36:34,080 But who knows. 5998 02:36:34,140 --> 02:36:34,720 What kind of. 5999 02:36:34,880 --> 02:36:35,780 Darkness lurks. 6000 02:36:35,940 --> 02:36:36,860 Behind the portal. 6001 02:36:36,860 --> 02:36:37,900 That he's trying to. 6002 02:36:38,200 --> 02:36:38,800 Get us to. 6003 02:36:39,060 --> 02:36:39,860 To get inside. 6004 02:36:40,020 --> 02:36:40,620 Step inside. 6005 02:36:40,620 --> 02:36:41,160 My portal. 6006 02:36:41,320 --> 02:36:41,920 They're talking about. 6007 02:36:42,060 --> 02:36:42,660 So it sounds like you've 6008 02:36:42,660 --> 02:36:42,980 created. 6009 02:36:43,260 --> 02:36:44,340 The alternate portal. 6010 02:36:44,540 --> 02:36:44,900 If you will. 6011 02:36:45,100 --> 02:36:45,560 So we'll have. 6012 02:36:45,600 --> 02:36:46,680 The alternate portal. 6013 02:36:46,780 --> 02:36:47,540 To go check it out. 6014 02:36:48,220 --> 02:36:49,720 For URLs of today's. 6015 02:36:49,780 --> 02:36:50,700 Featured websites. 6016 02:36:51,100 --> 02:36:51,620 Just go to. 6017 02:36:51,620 --> 02:36:52,840 The net cafe site. 6018 02:36:53,100 --> 02:36:55,120 At cnctv.com 6019 02:36:55,120 --> 02:36:56,900 All right. 6020 02:36:56,920 --> 02:36:57,180 Mike. 6021 02:36:57,240 --> 02:36:57,560 You are. 6022 02:36:57,820 --> 02:36:58,560 All right. 6023 02:36:58,640 --> 02:36:59,340 And back out. 6024 02:36:59,340 --> 02:37:00,520 Out of that darkness. 6025 02:37:01,380 --> 02:37:02,460 Comes the light. 6026 02:37:02,800 --> 02:37:04,100 Step out of the. 6027 02:37:04,220 --> 02:37:04,800 The dark. 6028 02:37:05,080 --> 02:37:05,360 Parler. 6029 02:37:06,320 --> 02:37:07,060 And let's. 6030 02:37:07,220 --> 02:37:08,540 Let's go back to that. 6031 02:37:08,660 --> 02:37:09,180 Look at that. 6032 02:37:09,600 --> 02:37:10,880 Is there anything more. 6033 02:37:11,540 --> 02:37:12,520 Reassuringly safe. 6034 02:37:13,720 --> 02:37:14,960 Than a fucking cut. 6035 02:37:15,060 --> 02:37:15,840 A transition. 6036 02:37:16,360 --> 02:37:17,080 Of static. 6037 02:37:18,080 --> 02:37:18,400 You know. 6038 02:37:18,780 --> 02:37:19,540 As if to kind of. 6039 02:37:19,740 --> 02:37:20,140 Embody. 6040 02:37:20,400 --> 02:37:20,640 And. 6041 02:37:21,780 --> 02:37:22,220 Represent. 6042 02:37:22,620 --> 02:37:23,400 The dark. 6043 02:37:23,740 --> 02:37:24,100 Void. 6044 02:37:24,200 --> 02:37:25,120 That we've just been in. 6045 02:37:25,840 --> 02:37:26,880 And then frame. 6046 02:37:27,600 --> 02:37:28,300 Into that. 6047 02:37:28,880 --> 02:37:29,400 Lightness. 6048 02:37:29,720 --> 02:37:30,040 Heaven. 6049 02:37:31,480 --> 02:37:31,960 Reassurance. 6050 02:37:33,080 --> 02:37:33,520 Stew. 6051 02:37:36,020 --> 02:37:38,140 Just go to the net cafe site. 6052 02:37:38,500 --> 02:37:40,420 At cnctv.com 6053 02:37:40,420 --> 02:37:42,180 All right. 6054 02:37:42,180 --> 02:37:42,460 Mike. 6055 02:37:42,520 --> 02:37:43,540 You are a vice president. 6056 02:37:43,720 --> 02:37:44,820 And you're the manager. 6057 02:37:44,980 --> 02:37:45,560 Of net center. 6058 02:37:45,560 --> 02:37:46,400 As I understand it. 6059 02:37:46,400 --> 02:37:47,300 Which is netscape's. 6060 02:37:47,480 --> 02:37:48,860 Move into the portal business. 6061 02:37:48,860 --> 02:37:49,060 Right. 6062 02:37:49,080 --> 02:37:49,180 I mean. 6063 02:37:49,180 --> 02:37:50,140 We're talking about portals. 6064 02:37:50,400 --> 02:37:51,260 Is this what you're trying to 6065 02:37:51,260 --> 02:37:51,820 do with me? 6066 02:37:52,280 --> 02:37:52,340 We're. 6067 02:37:53,280 --> 02:37:56,680 We're talking about portals. 6068 02:37:58,740 --> 02:37:59,140 Oh. 6069 02:37:59,140 --> 02:37:59,920 What a build up. 6070 02:38:00,000 --> 02:38:01,500 Go to the net cafe site. 6071 02:38:01,660 --> 02:38:03,780 At cnctv.com 6072 02:38:03,780 --> 02:38:05,540 All right. 6073 02:38:05,540 --> 02:38:05,820 Mike. 6074 02:38:05,860 --> 02:38:06,880 You are a vice president. 6075 02:38:06,880 --> 02:38:07,500 At netscape. 6076 02:38:07,580 --> 02:38:08,200 And you're the manager. 6077 02:38:08,200 --> 02:38:08,920 Of net center. 6078 02:38:08,920 --> 02:38:09,760 As I understand it. 6079 02:38:09,760 --> 02:38:10,660 Which is netscape's. 6080 02:38:10,660 --> 02:38:12,200 Move into the portal business. 6081 02:38:12,200 --> 02:38:12,400 Right. 6082 02:38:12,460 --> 02:38:12,540 I mean. 6083 02:38:12,540 --> 02:38:13,480 We're talking about portals. 6084 02:38:13,480 --> 02:38:14,480 Is this what you're trying to 6085 02:38:14,480 --> 02:38:15,300 do with net center? 6086 02:38:15,300 --> 02:38:15,800 Yes. 6087 02:38:15,800 --> 02:38:16,340 That's right. 6088 02:38:16,340 --> 02:38:17,740 Build out our entire set of 6089 02:38:17,740 --> 02:38:19,260 services on the website. 6090 02:38:19,260 --> 02:38:21,760 So that the portal site net 6091 02:38:21,760 --> 02:38:22,680 center. 6092 02:38:22,680 --> 02:38:23,980 Can be a one stop shop for all 6093 02:38:23,980 --> 02:38:25,080 of netscape users. 6094 02:38:25,080 --> 02:38:25,080 Okay. 6095 02:38:25,080 --> 02:38:26,040 You've got this huge advantage. 6096 02:38:26,040 --> 02:38:27,070 Because a lot of people using 6097 02:38:27,070 --> 02:38:27,900 netscape browser. 6098 02:38:27,900 --> 02:38:29,240 It defaults to netscape. 6099 02:38:29,240 --> 02:38:30,400 Which is now net center. 6100 02:38:31,680 --> 02:38:31,880 Give us a little bit of the 6101 02:38:31,880 --> 02:38:34,080 strategy behind this evolution. 6102 02:38:34,220 --> 02:38:35,370 I mean netscape sort of was a 6103 02:38:35,370 --> 02:38:36,340 software company. 6104 02:38:36,340 --> 02:38:37,480 And then a browser company. 6105 02:38:37,480 --> 02:38:38,550 And now you're really in the 6106 02:38:38,550 --> 02:38:39,860 content business on the web. 6107 02:38:40,200 --> 02:38:40,340 Yeah. 6108 02:38:40,440 --> 02:38:41,340 We started out. 6109 02:38:41,420 --> 02:38:42,260 As you know. 6110 02:38:42,400 --> 02:38:43,430 Really selling the browser 6111 02:38:43,430 --> 02:38:44,340 primarily in 95. 6112 02:38:44,340 --> 02:38:44,460 Netscape. 6113 02:38:44,720 --> 02:38:46,200 And expanded the product line. 6114 02:38:46,540 --> 02:38:47,840 To include servers. 6115 02:38:48,080 --> 02:38:49,160 And then enterprise software. 6116 02:38:49,440 --> 02:38:49,440 Right. 6117 02:38:49,440 --> 02:38:50,720 In 96 and 97. 6118 02:38:51,100 --> 02:38:52,460 All along that time. 6119 02:38:52,780 --> 02:38:54,310 We were improving the services 6120 02:38:54,310 --> 02:38:55,760 we offered on the site. 6121 02:38:55,920 --> 02:38:57,100 So back in 95. 6122 02:38:57,100 --> 02:38:58,470 We started selling our first 6123 02:38:58,470 --> 02:38:58,800 ads. 6124 02:38:58,860 --> 02:38:59,970 And we brought live our general 6125 02:38:59,970 --> 02:39:00,360 store. 6126 02:39:00,560 --> 02:39:01,650 And we started our search 6127 02:39:01,650 --> 02:39:02,300 program. 6128 02:39:02,480 --> 02:39:04,170 And we added individual 6129 02:39:04,170 --> 02:39:06,320 services throughout the whole 6130 02:39:06,320 --> 02:39:06,920 period. 6131 02:39:06,920 --> 02:39:08,420 And it's great to have the CCTV 6132 02:39:08,420 --> 02:39:10,200 voyeuristic angle here as well. 6133 02:39:10,200 --> 02:39:12,580 Because this guy is going hard 6134 02:39:12,580 --> 02:39:14,540 on the hand gestures. 6135 02:39:15,240 --> 02:39:17,220 And he's taking the game to Stu. 6136 02:39:17,220 --> 02:39:19,470 We know that Stu loves to do 6137 02:39:19,470 --> 02:39:20,900 the hand gestures. 6138 02:39:21,040 --> 02:39:24,200 But this guy, Mr. Homer, is 6139 02:39:24,200 --> 02:39:26,260 also a big hand man. 6140 02:39:27,180 --> 02:39:28,540 Look at the hand work. 6141 02:39:29,000 --> 02:39:29,900 The hand play. 6142 02:39:30,620 --> 02:39:33,190 And he can already sense a bit 6143 02:39:33,190 --> 02:39:35,300 of, you know, Stu. 6144 02:39:36,000 --> 02:39:36,840 You can see there. 6145 02:39:36,880 --> 02:39:37,640 That cut there. 6146 02:39:37,780 --> 02:39:38,440 Into that. 6147 02:39:38,500 --> 02:39:38,980 He's doing it. 6148 02:39:39,060 --> 02:39:40,460 He's doing a Stu claw. 6149 02:39:41,000 --> 02:39:43,540 Which is a patented Stu move. 6150 02:39:44,540 --> 02:39:45,790 So that's already going to put 6151 02:39:45,790 --> 02:39:47,000 the willies. 6152 02:39:49,060 --> 02:39:49,860 Up Stu. 6153 02:39:50,660 --> 02:39:52,140 For want of a better phrase. 6154 02:39:52,200 --> 02:39:53,260 It's going to give him the willies. 6155 02:39:53,340 --> 02:39:53,700 Should I say. 6156 02:39:53,700 --> 02:39:55,770 We added individual services 6157 02:39:55,770 --> 02:39:57,370 throughout the whole period 6158 02:39:57,370 --> 02:39:59,660 from 95 to the middle of 97. 6159 02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:01,690 What we did in the middle of 97 6160 02:40:01,690 --> 02:40:03,490 is we expanded that into a set 6161 02:40:03,490 --> 02:40:05,000 of services that was. 6162 02:40:05,080 --> 02:40:06,720 It's called the doggy paddle. 6163 02:40:07,160 --> 02:40:08,880 And it works because he's a new 6164 02:40:08,880 --> 02:40:10,000 dog in town. 6165 02:40:10,080 --> 02:40:11,240 He's a new big dog in town. 6166 02:40:11,380 --> 02:40:12,210 I like the way this is 6167 02:40:12,210 --> 02:40:13,600 developing here as well. 6168 02:40:14,640 --> 02:40:14,920 We've. 6169 02:40:15,300 --> 02:40:16,000 We're really. 6170 02:40:16,100 --> 02:40:17,380 It took a while to get into it. 6171 02:40:17,420 --> 02:40:18,960 But we're getting in there. 6172 02:40:19,020 --> 02:40:20,220 We're getting into the Net Cafe 6173 02:40:20,220 --> 02:40:20,560 world. 6174 02:40:20,640 --> 02:40:21,590 Sometimes it takes a bit of 6175 02:40:21,590 --> 02:40:22,400 time, you know. 6176 02:40:22,860 --> 02:40:23,780 And then it just. 6177 02:40:23,880 --> 02:40:25,320 It begins to work. 6178 02:40:25,460 --> 02:40:26,640 It just starts to flow. 6179 02:40:26,920 --> 02:40:28,280 A lot broader under a single 6180 02:40:28,280 --> 02:40:28,960 sign up. 6181 02:40:29,160 --> 02:40:29,320 So that. 6182 02:40:29,320 --> 02:40:29,880 And I have to say. 6183 02:40:29,880 --> 02:40:30,320 We can essentially. 6184 02:40:30,480 --> 02:40:32,890 You go and save the best to 6185 02:40:32,890 --> 02:40:33,800 last. 6186 02:40:33,980 --> 02:40:36,410 Begin collecting members of Net 6187 02:40:36,410 --> 02:40:37,300 Center. 6188 02:40:37,340 --> 02:40:37,520 Right. 6189 02:40:37,520 --> 02:40:38,540 And then add to the whole 6190 02:40:38,540 --> 02:40:39,100 service. 6191 02:40:39,140 --> 02:40:39,280 All right. 6192 02:40:39,320 --> 02:40:40,170 Now when you collect these 6193 02:40:40,170 --> 02:40:41,080 members at Net Center. 6194 02:40:41,240 --> 02:40:42,240 Now they're going toe to toe 6195 02:40:42,240 --> 02:40:43,380 with the hand gestures. 6196 02:40:43,720 --> 02:40:45,020 Because Stu is back in. 6197 02:40:45,740 --> 02:40:46,510 Pickets to make money in some 6198 02:40:46,510 --> 02:40:47,380 way, right? 6199 02:40:47,660 --> 02:40:48,410 I mean what's the business 6200 02:40:48,410 --> 02:40:49,000 model here? 6201 02:40:49,300 --> 02:40:50,360 It's twofold. 6202 02:40:50,500 --> 02:40:52,040 I mean on the one hand if we're 6203 02:40:52,040 --> 02:40:53,660 able to get somebody to sign up 6204 02:40:53,660 --> 02:40:54,720 for Net Center. 6205 02:40:54,900 --> 02:40:56,140 Then they become a member. 6206 02:40:56,280 --> 02:40:57,420 We know a little bit about them. 6207 02:40:57,420 --> 02:40:58,140 And then we're able to. 6208 02:40:58,140 --> 02:40:59,340 They're both wearing blue 6209 02:40:59,340 --> 02:40:59,860 shirts. 6210 02:41:00,480 --> 02:41:01,870 And they're both going hand to 6211 02:41:01,870 --> 02:41:02,980 hand combat. 6212 02:41:03,120 --> 02:41:04,360 For more tailored services. 6213 02:41:04,800 --> 02:41:06,400 So the user services are better. 6214 02:41:06,820 --> 02:41:07,680 On the other hand. 6215 02:41:08,440 --> 02:41:09,470 Of course the more people that 6216 02:41:09,470 --> 02:41:10,000 come. 6217 02:41:10,060 --> 02:41:10,800 And the more frequently the 6218 02:41:10,800 --> 02:41:11,460 users are better. 6219 02:41:11,840 --> 02:41:12,740 On the other hand. 6220 02:41:13,460 --> 02:41:14,530 Of course the more people that 6221 02:41:14,530 --> 02:41:15,060 come. 6222 02:41:15,120 --> 02:41:16,100 And the more frequently they 6223 02:41:16,100 --> 02:41:16,700 use the site. 6224 02:41:16,700 --> 02:41:17,790 The more advertising 6225 02:41:17,790 --> 02:41:19,080 opportunity there is. 6226 02:41:19,340 --> 02:41:20,260 And if those happen to be 6227 02:41:20,260 --> 02:41:21,360 people that are members. 6228 02:41:21,820 --> 02:41:23,900 Then we know enough about them. 6229 02:41:23,960 --> 02:41:25,340 To present custom advertising 6230 02:41:25,340 --> 02:41:25,860 to them. 6231 02:41:25,940 --> 02:41:26,740 And things like that. 6232 02:41:26,820 --> 02:41:26,960 Right. 6233 02:41:27,040 --> 02:41:27,640 So I mean you're trying to 6234 02:41:27,640 --> 02:41:27,980 become. 6235 02:41:28,120 --> 02:41:29,260 I mean a Yahoo in a way. 6236 02:41:29,340 --> 02:41:30,120 Is that the model here? 6237 02:41:30,180 --> 02:41:30,890 I mean they've been very 6238 02:41:30,890 --> 02:41:31,700 successful with this. 6239 02:41:31,780 --> 02:41:32,040 Yeah. 6240 02:41:32,120 --> 02:41:32,900 I mean we have. 6241 02:41:33,120 --> 02:41:34,130 You know enjoyed a lot of 6242 02:41:34,130 --> 02:41:35,240 revenue from our. 6243 02:41:35,300 --> 02:41:36,340 What the fuck is going on back 6244 02:41:36,340 --> 02:41:36,740 there? 6245 02:41:36,800 --> 02:41:37,720 There's a hair salon. 6246 02:41:37,880 --> 02:41:40,380 An impromptu hair salon. 6247 02:41:40,620 --> 02:41:42,220 Or hair styling going on. 6248 02:41:42,640 --> 02:41:43,840 In the background as well. 6249 02:41:44,000 --> 02:41:45,000 In cybersmith. 6250 02:41:45,220 --> 02:41:46,410 I mean they've been very 6251 02:41:46,410 --> 02:41:47,680 successful with this. 6252 02:41:47,740 --> 02:41:48,800 Yeah I mean we have. 6253 02:41:48,940 --> 02:41:49,020 Check that out there. 6254 02:41:49,140 --> 02:41:50,170 You know enjoyed a lot of 6255 02:41:50,170 --> 02:41:51,640 revenue from our website. 6256 02:41:51,640 --> 02:41:52,720 For a long time. 6257 02:41:52,820 --> 02:41:52,960 Right. 6258 02:41:52,960 --> 02:41:54,720 In fact we did 105 million 6259 02:41:54,720 --> 02:41:56,560 dollars of revenue last year. 6260 02:41:56,680 --> 02:41:58,580 Is it a hair stylistic. 6261 02:41:59,120 --> 02:42:01,640 You know limited edition moment. 6262 02:42:01,640 --> 02:42:03,340 Or is it flirtatious. 6263 02:42:05,340 --> 02:42:06,260 Scenario between. 6264 02:42:06,620 --> 02:42:08,300 You know an unknown party. 6265 02:42:08,540 --> 02:42:10,120 Yahoo did 69 million dollars. 6266 02:42:10,220 --> 02:42:11,640 That's a little known aspect. 6267 02:42:11,780 --> 02:42:12,060 Ad revenue. 6268 02:42:12,400 --> 02:42:13,900 It is about 80%. 6269 02:42:13,900 --> 02:42:14,480 It's getting. 6270 02:42:14,900 --> 02:42:16,280 They're getting very close. 6271 02:42:16,980 --> 02:42:18,300 69 million dollars. 6272 02:42:18,400 --> 02:42:19,800 That's a little known aspect. 6273 02:42:19,980 --> 02:42:20,220 Ad revenue. 6274 02:42:20,580 --> 02:42:22,760 It is about 80% ad revenue. 6275 02:42:22,880 --> 02:42:23,600 And the other is what? 6276 02:42:23,780 --> 02:42:24,740 It's actually developed. 6277 02:42:24,880 --> 02:42:26,020 She's gone right in there. 6278 02:42:26,500 --> 02:42:27,410 Maybe she's doing his eyebrows 6279 02:42:27,410 --> 02:42:28,180 or something. 6280 02:42:28,320 --> 02:42:29,590 The other is selling software 6281 02:42:29,590 --> 02:42:30,220 on the side. 6282 02:42:30,440 --> 02:42:30,720 Okay. 6283 02:42:30,720 --> 02:42:31,830 Other types of promotional 6284 02:42:31,830 --> 02:42:32,360 service. 6285 02:42:32,380 --> 02:42:33,760 It's weird like. 6286 02:42:33,860 --> 02:42:34,320 I mean what's. 6287 02:42:36,400 --> 02:42:37,400 What are they doing? 6288 02:42:37,740 --> 02:42:39,570 So we actually have had this 6289 02:42:39,570 --> 02:42:41,180 very very lucrative and 6290 02:42:41,180 --> 02:42:42,920 successful business. 6291 02:42:43,760 --> 02:42:44,420 Look at this. 6292 02:42:44,560 --> 02:42:46,030 In selling ads and building 6293 02:42:46,030 --> 02:42:47,200 revenues on net. 6294 02:42:47,200 --> 02:42:48,030 She's spraying him with 6295 02:42:48,030 --> 02:42:48,580 something. 6296 02:42:48,800 --> 02:42:49,400 She's spraying him with 6297 02:42:49,400 --> 02:42:49,940 something. 6298 02:42:50,360 --> 02:42:52,070 What we hadn't done is built as 6299 02:42:52,070 --> 02:42:54,560 good a service for the end user. 6300 02:42:54,940 --> 02:42:55,990 And we hadn't really focused on 6301 02:42:55,990 --> 02:42:56,860 that business. 6302 02:42:57,280 --> 02:42:58,260 Whoever he is. 6303 02:42:58,340 --> 02:43:00,640 He's got a very thick mane. 6304 02:43:00,760 --> 02:43:01,140 Primarily. 6305 02:43:01,580 --> 02:43:02,370 Because we were still making 6306 02:43:02,370 --> 02:43:03,600 our money from software. 6307 02:43:03,740 --> 02:43:05,010 Now a lot of the stuff when you 6308 02:43:05,010 --> 02:43:05,600 go there. 6309 02:43:05,900 --> 02:43:07,900 Rare cough from stew there. 6310 02:43:08,020 --> 02:43:08,780 He left that in. 6311 02:43:11,000 --> 02:43:11,440 Merrily. 6312 02:43:12,640 --> 02:43:13,080 Merrily. 6313 02:43:13,960 --> 02:43:15,160 It's an interesting. 6314 02:43:19,880 --> 02:43:20,240 Situation. 6315 02:43:23,240 --> 02:43:23,820 There's all sorts going on you 6316 02:43:23,820 --> 02:43:24,860 know. 6317 02:43:25,080 --> 02:43:25,990 Because we were still making 6318 02:43:25,990 --> 02:43:27,120 our money from software. 6319 02:43:27,120 --> 02:43:28,500 Now a lot of the stuff when you 6320 02:43:28,500 --> 02:43:29,100 go there. 6321 02:43:29,320 --> 02:43:30,400 You go to some content. 6322 02:43:30,540 --> 02:43:31,240 Click on that center. 6323 02:43:31,360 --> 02:43:32,440 And it says buy excite. 6324 02:43:32,540 --> 02:43:33,720 Are you really kind of. 6325 02:43:34,000 --> 02:43:34,800 Is it the same thing as going 6326 02:43:34,800 --> 02:43:35,850 to excite if I go through net 6327 02:43:35,850 --> 02:43:36,380 center? 6328 02:43:36,580 --> 02:43:37,360 No it's not. 6329 02:43:38,000 --> 02:43:39,020 We have a series of services 6330 02:43:39,020 --> 02:43:40,620 that are things like smart 6331 02:43:40,620 --> 02:43:41,480 browsing. 6332 02:43:41,700 --> 02:43:42,280 And search. 6333 02:43:42,520 --> 02:43:43,920 And free web mail. 6334 02:43:44,400 --> 02:43:45,640 That we have on our site. 6335 02:43:45,740 --> 02:43:46,760 That we have done in an 6336 02:43:46,760 --> 02:43:48,600 integrated package for the user. 6337 02:43:49,240 --> 02:43:50,420 In addition to that. 6338 02:43:50,520 --> 02:43:51,920 We have worked with excite to 6339 02:43:51,920 --> 02:43:53,290 build out about half of the 6340 02:43:53,290 --> 02:43:54,500 content channels. 6341 02:43:54,500 --> 02:43:55,980 That are on net center. 6342 02:43:55,980 --> 02:43:57,890 Is the makeup artist fluffing 6343 02:43:57,890 --> 02:43:59,240 up the next guest? 6344 02:43:59,700 --> 02:44:01,220 I mean if they're not on the 6345 02:44:01,220 --> 02:44:01,860 show. 6346 02:44:02,020 --> 02:44:03,850 I mean I didn't think I 6347 02:44:03,850 --> 02:44:05,240 recognized. 6348 02:44:05,800 --> 02:44:07,120 Just from the cut of him there. 6349 02:44:07,800 --> 02:44:08,680 He hasn't been on. 6350 02:44:08,740 --> 02:44:09,790 Because sometimes they might 6351 02:44:09,790 --> 02:44:10,820 film these bits before. 6352 02:44:11,020 --> 02:44:12,360 And you know we've already seen. 6353 02:44:13,020 --> 02:44:14,360 Or after the event. 6354 02:44:14,480 --> 02:44:16,490 But I haven't seen him in the 6355 02:44:16,490 --> 02:44:17,760 setup so far. 6356 02:44:19,200 --> 02:44:20,320 No it's not. 6357 02:44:20,320 --> 02:44:22,290 We have a series of services 6358 02:44:22,290 --> 02:44:24,220 that are things like smart 6359 02:44:24,220 --> 02:44:26,000 browsing and search. 6360 02:44:26,000 --> 02:44:26,260 Right. 6361 02:44:26,260 --> 02:44:27,660 And free web mail. 6362 02:44:27,960 --> 02:44:29,360 That we have on our site. 6363 02:44:29,460 --> 02:44:30,490 That we have done in an 6364 02:44:30,490 --> 02:44:32,320 integrated package for the user. 6365 02:44:32,860 --> 02:44:34,140 In addition to that. 6366 02:44:34,460 --> 02:44:35,640 We have worked with excite to 6367 02:44:35,640 --> 02:44:37,260 build out about half of the. 6368 02:44:37,260 --> 02:44:37,980 It's not DeVries. 6369 02:44:37,980 --> 02:44:39,660 That are on net center. 6370 02:44:39,660 --> 02:44:41,360 And the ones that you see. 6371 02:44:41,360 --> 02:44:43,460 Where you see the excite co-branding. 6372 02:44:43,460 --> 02:44:43,600 Right. 6373 02:44:43,760 --> 02:44:44,140 Are the ones. 6374 02:44:44,140 --> 02:44:46,400 DeVries is wearing a blazer and 6375 02:44:46,400 --> 02:44:48,160 shirt combination. 6376 02:44:48,360 --> 02:44:49,560 Very stylistic. 6377 02:44:50,320 --> 02:44:51,320 That we work on. 6378 02:44:51,320 --> 02:44:52,480 That fellow in the background 6379 02:44:52,480 --> 02:44:53,700 with the spritz and the hair. 6380 02:44:53,820 --> 02:44:54,900 He's wearing a kind of a blue 6381 02:44:54,900 --> 02:44:55,400 shirt. 6382 02:44:55,760 --> 02:44:56,360 Along with them. 6383 02:44:56,440 --> 02:44:58,120 You still will be in net center. 6384 02:44:58,560 --> 02:44:59,470 You still will be using our 6385 02:44:59,470 --> 02:45:00,640 personalization. 6386 02:45:00,980 --> 02:45:02,230 And all the advantages of the 6387 02:45:02,230 --> 02:45:03,580 client integration. 6388 02:45:03,880 --> 02:45:05,110 But they're providing content 6389 02:45:05,110 --> 02:45:06,460 on half of the channels. 6390 02:45:06,620 --> 02:45:07,670 Mike there's a little bit of AOL 6391 02:45:07,670 --> 02:45:08,520 I see in here too. 6392 02:45:08,740 --> 02:45:09,380 I love that. 6393 02:45:09,600 --> 02:45:11,060 And Stu loves AOL. 6394 02:45:11,480 --> 02:45:12,980 With that hand gesture as well. 6395 02:45:13,060 --> 02:45:13,500 Combination. 6396 02:45:13,500 --> 02:45:15,500 But I liked the snake in the 6397 02:45:15,500 --> 02:45:16,920 hole maneuver. 6398 02:45:17,140 --> 02:45:18,500 That Homer pulls out. 6399 02:45:19,160 --> 02:45:20,680 Both of these guys are in their 6400 02:45:20,680 --> 02:45:21,440 prime. 6401 02:45:21,720 --> 02:45:22,800 And they're hitting each other 6402 02:45:22,800 --> 02:45:23,840 with hand gestures. 6403 02:45:23,840 --> 02:45:25,280 That we've never even seen 6404 02:45:25,280 --> 02:45:25,900 before. 6405 02:45:26,320 --> 02:45:27,690 Like look at what he pulls out 6406 02:45:27,690 --> 02:45:28,860 of the bag here Homer. 6407 02:45:29,140 --> 02:45:30,180 Look at that. 6408 02:45:31,060 --> 02:45:32,560 I like to do that maneuver. 6409 02:45:32,760 --> 02:45:34,200 Do you know during the title 6410 02:45:34,200 --> 02:45:35,480 music to the show. 6411 02:45:35,580 --> 02:45:36,980 I usually do that myself. 6412 02:45:37,760 --> 02:45:37,960 Do you know. 6413 02:45:38,000 --> 02:45:39,300 But I've never whipped that out 6414 02:45:39,300 --> 02:45:40,460 in a fucking one on one. 6415 02:45:41,240 --> 02:45:42,310 I don't think I'd whip that out 6416 02:45:42,310 --> 02:45:43,380 on a one on one. 6417 02:45:43,540 --> 02:45:44,400 Snake in the hole. 6418 02:45:45,180 --> 02:45:45,760 It's great. 6419 02:45:45,900 --> 02:45:47,360 And I think Stu gets excited by 6420 02:45:47,360 --> 02:45:47,800 that. 6421 02:45:48,520 --> 02:45:49,980 He gets excited by that. 6422 02:45:50,120 --> 02:45:52,120 And starts to emote heavily on 6423 02:45:52,120 --> 02:45:52,620 AOL. 6424 02:45:52,620 --> 02:45:54,360 They're providing content on. 6425 02:45:54,540 --> 02:45:55,660 A double snake. 6426 02:45:55,940 --> 02:45:56,660 Double hole. 6427 02:45:57,340 --> 02:45:58,200 Half of the channels. 6428 02:45:58,360 --> 02:45:58,500 Mike. 6429 02:45:58,760 --> 02:45:59,520 Now look at this. 6430 02:45:59,600 --> 02:46:00,080 Look at Stu. 6431 02:46:00,800 --> 02:46:01,920 Is he gonna orb? 6432 02:46:02,380 --> 02:46:02,900 He's not. 6433 02:46:02,980 --> 02:46:04,600 He's gonna grab AOL. 6434 02:46:05,100 --> 02:46:06,560 He's imagining the word. 6435 02:46:06,720 --> 02:46:07,580 The title AOL. 6436 02:46:07,740 --> 02:46:08,220 We all know. 6437 02:46:08,340 --> 02:46:09,420 All I have to say is AOL. 6438 02:46:09,560 --> 02:46:10,720 We know what it looks like. 6439 02:46:10,800 --> 02:46:11,300 The letters. 6440 02:46:11,500 --> 02:46:11,960 The branding. 6441 02:46:12,480 --> 02:46:13,770 He's holding it in his hands 6442 02:46:13,770 --> 02:46:14,160 now. 6443 02:46:14,160 --> 02:46:17,060 He's got the whole world in his 6444 02:46:17,060 --> 02:46:18,020 hands. 6445 02:46:18,020 --> 02:46:19,560 The AOL I see in here too. 6446 02:46:19,640 --> 02:46:20,830 You got these pop-up ads that 6447 02:46:20,830 --> 02:46:21,900 sort of blast at you. 6448 02:46:22,260 --> 02:46:23,360 Hand blast. 6449 02:46:23,800 --> 02:46:24,280 Sandwich. 6450 02:46:24,880 --> 02:46:25,800 Another combination. 6451 02:46:26,000 --> 02:46:26,480 Combo. 6452 02:46:26,620 --> 02:46:27,020 Combo. 6453 02:46:27,160 --> 02:46:27,620 Combo. 6454 02:46:28,260 --> 02:46:30,440 See whatever Homer does. 6455 02:46:30,980 --> 02:46:32,960 Stu will top again and again. 6456 02:46:33,040 --> 02:46:33,400 And that's. 6457 02:46:33,520 --> 02:46:34,780 We haven't seen a hand blast 6458 02:46:34,780 --> 02:46:35,340 before. 6459 02:46:35,460 --> 02:46:35,720 You know. 6460 02:46:36,340 --> 02:46:37,100 It's deadly. 6461 02:46:37,600 --> 02:46:38,720 He's killed him with that one. 6462 02:46:38,780 --> 02:46:39,750 I don't think there's any 6463 02:46:39,750 --> 02:46:40,720 comeback for Homer. 6464 02:46:40,840 --> 02:46:41,620 I don't think Homer's got 6465 02:46:41,620 --> 02:46:42,060 anything. 6466 02:46:42,180 --> 02:46:42,840 But we never know. 6467 02:46:42,880 --> 02:46:43,720 We might see a sausage. 6468 02:46:43,720 --> 02:46:45,310 Mike there's a little bit of AOL 6469 02:46:45,310 --> 02:46:46,360 I see in here too. 6470 02:46:46,420 --> 02:46:46,740 You got these. 6471 02:46:46,940 --> 02:46:47,840 He's being stunned. 6472 02:46:48,160 --> 02:46:48,860 Pop-up ads. 6473 02:46:49,140 --> 02:46:50,620 He's fucking pop. 6474 02:46:50,820 --> 02:46:51,940 Popped him with the pop-up. 6475 02:46:52,320 --> 02:46:54,240 And then he said the word blast. 6476 02:46:54,780 --> 02:46:56,100 And sandwiched. 6477 02:46:56,540 --> 02:46:58,180 So it's a blast sandwich. 6478 02:46:58,360 --> 02:46:59,450 A blast at you whether you want 6479 02:46:59,450 --> 02:47:00,120 them or not. 6480 02:47:00,160 --> 02:47:00,680 And a blast. 6481 02:47:00,780 --> 02:47:01,280 Sort of ads. 6482 02:47:01,560 --> 02:47:02,760 And then he's going sneaky 6483 02:47:02,760 --> 02:47:03,700 creepy Pete. 6484 02:47:04,040 --> 02:47:05,690 And it's combined with the 6485 02:47:05,690 --> 02:47:07,560 creepy angle as well. 6486 02:47:08,020 --> 02:47:09,960 So it really is a fucking three. 6487 02:47:11,000 --> 02:47:12,320 Pronged attack there. 6488 02:47:12,560 --> 02:47:14,180 Let's just show you that again. 6489 02:47:14,480 --> 02:47:15,240 Well I see in here too. 6490 02:47:15,300 --> 02:47:16,420 You got these pop-up ads. 6491 02:47:16,500 --> 02:47:17,580 That sort of blast at you. 6492 02:47:17,640 --> 02:47:18,460 Whether you want them or not. 6493 02:47:18,540 --> 02:47:19,660 You've got sort of ads hidden 6494 02:47:19,660 --> 02:47:20,360 everywhere. 6495 02:47:20,680 --> 02:47:22,480 He's doing the shoulder roll. 6496 02:47:22,760 --> 02:47:24,080 I love the shoulder roll. 6497 02:47:24,720 --> 02:47:25,820 He's pulling that one out. 6498 02:47:25,980 --> 02:47:26,860 I think it's text. 6499 02:47:26,920 --> 02:47:27,880 But it turns out being an ad. 6500 02:47:28,120 --> 02:47:28,990 Is that sort of a necessary 6501 02:47:28,990 --> 02:47:30,320 part of way this has to work? 6502 02:47:30,340 --> 02:47:30,600 Lovely. 6503 02:47:30,600 --> 02:47:31,760 Yeah I think that what we've 6504 02:47:31,760 --> 02:47:32,320 learned. 6505 02:47:32,440 --> 02:47:33,460 Through a lot of research. 6506 02:47:33,880 --> 02:47:35,630 It's a shame we've gone in on 6507 02:47:35,630 --> 02:47:36,900 the CU Dutch. 6508 02:47:37,780 --> 02:47:38,690 We need to come out for a 6509 02:47:38,690 --> 02:47:40,040 medium Dutch. 6510 02:47:40,220 --> 02:47:41,380 If we're to see him. 6511 02:47:41,620 --> 02:47:43,560 What he's bringing to the table. 6512 02:47:43,560 --> 02:47:44,300 Is a riposte. 6513 02:47:44,300 --> 02:47:45,830 It's a necessary part of way 6514 02:47:45,830 --> 02:47:46,860 this has to work. 6515 02:47:47,080 --> 02:47:48,160 Yeah I think that what we've 6516 02:47:48,160 --> 02:47:48,760 learned. 6517 02:47:48,840 --> 02:47:49,940 Through a lot of research. 6518 02:47:50,140 --> 02:47:51,140 Over the last three and a half 6519 02:47:51,140 --> 02:47:51,600 years. 6520 02:47:51,720 --> 02:47:52,140 On the site. 6521 02:47:52,260 --> 02:47:54,720 Is that way beyond banner ads. 6522 02:47:54,920 --> 02:47:55,730 People actually like to have 6523 02:47:55,730 --> 02:47:56,480 their promotion. 6524 02:47:56,480 --> 02:47:58,020 We've just seen another snake. 6525 02:47:58,760 --> 02:47:59,780 Can be more targeted. 6526 02:48:00,020 --> 02:48:00,820 We didn't see it. 6527 02:48:01,040 --> 02:48:02,520 Pop-ups are a great example. 6528 02:48:02,680 --> 02:48:03,400 We found that. 6529 02:48:03,640 --> 02:48:05,140 If we put up a pop-up in front 6530 02:48:05,140 --> 02:48:06,060 of people. 6531 02:48:06,280 --> 02:48:08,760 And it's for a discount on CDs 6532 02:48:08,760 --> 02:48:10,060 or in books. 6533 02:48:10,060 --> 02:48:12,420 Then the rate with which people 6534 02:48:12,420 --> 02:48:13,660 will complain. 6535 02:48:13,660 --> 02:48:15,000 Is you know maybe two or three 6536 02:48:15,000 --> 02:48:15,540 percent. 6537 02:48:15,780 --> 02:48:15,940 Right. 6538 02:48:16,300 --> 02:48:17,380 However if we offer somebody a 6539 02:48:17,380 --> 02:48:18,480 software upgrade. 6540 02:48:18,680 --> 02:48:20,240 That's targeted to them. 6541 02:48:20,320 --> 02:48:21,480 Because they have 3.0 and they 6542 02:48:21,480 --> 02:48:22,400 want to go to 4.0. 6543 02:48:22,480 --> 02:48:22,660 Right. 6544 02:48:22,740 --> 02:48:23,790 Then we might get a tenth of 6545 02:48:23,790 --> 02:48:24,400 that rate. 6546 02:48:24,520 --> 02:48:25,280 In any case. 6547 02:48:25,440 --> 02:48:25,680 Yeah. 6548 02:48:25,740 --> 02:48:26,940 Most people actually. 6549 02:48:27,280 --> 02:48:28,360 Don't mind the ads. 6550 02:48:28,620 --> 02:48:29,660 And the music. 6551 02:48:29,800 --> 02:48:30,880 The fade in is coming. 6552 02:48:31,080 --> 02:48:31,940 You know Stu's going to get out 6553 02:48:31,940 --> 02:48:32,420 of there. 6554 02:48:32,600 --> 02:48:34,040 They get the whole service for 6555 02:48:34,040 --> 02:48:34,460 free. 6556 02:48:34,600 --> 02:48:35,580 So that's the trade. 6557 02:48:35,660 --> 02:48:36,680 We make our money on some of 6558 02:48:36,680 --> 02:48:37,160 the ads. 6559 02:48:37,540 --> 02:48:38,410 And we offer free services to 6560 02:48:38,410 --> 02:48:39,040 the users. 6561 02:48:39,040 --> 02:48:39,360 Smile. 6562 02:48:39,480 --> 02:48:40,120 Is he going to smile? 6563 02:48:40,320 --> 02:48:40,720 NetCenter. 6564 02:48:40,860 --> 02:48:41,460 Thanks a lot Mike. 6565 02:48:42,100 --> 02:48:42,880 Just a nod. 6566 02:48:43,240 --> 02:48:44,600 And we have a fucking beautiful 6567 02:48:44,600 --> 02:48:45,320 wipe there. 6568 02:48:45,420 --> 02:48:45,900 Where we get. 6569 02:48:46,680 --> 02:48:48,460 A bizarre amalgamation. 6570 02:48:48,460 --> 02:48:50,380 It's the tiger claw wipe. 6571 02:48:51,220 --> 02:48:52,420 Which gives us. 6572 02:48:52,620 --> 02:48:54,000 If we break it down frame by 6573 02:48:54,000 --> 02:48:54,380 frame. 6574 02:48:55,240 --> 02:48:56,800 An amalgamation of Homer. 6575 02:48:57,520 --> 02:48:58,620 Homer's odyssey. 6576 02:48:59,560 --> 02:49:00,880 And Stu's chin. 6577 02:49:01,320 --> 02:49:02,520 And you can even see. 6578 02:49:02,840 --> 02:49:04,080 Even at that one there. 6579 02:49:04,160 --> 02:49:04,800 That's the most. 6580 02:49:05,420 --> 02:49:06,960 Shocking frame. 6581 02:49:07,860 --> 02:49:08,700 I think. 6582 02:49:08,840 --> 02:49:09,520 Where we've got. 6583 02:49:10,040 --> 02:49:11,580 The eye of the tiger. 6584 02:49:13,060 --> 02:49:14,440 The eye of Homer. 6585 02:49:16,400 --> 02:49:18,080 And then Stu's chin. 6586 02:49:19,820 --> 02:49:21,820 And the matching shirts to boot. 6587 02:49:22,120 --> 02:49:23,430 And we offer free services to 6588 02:49:23,430 --> 02:49:24,220 the users. 6589 02:49:24,500 --> 02:49:24,860 NetCenter. 6590 02:49:24,980 --> 02:49:25,620 Thanks a lot Mike. 6591 02:49:26,260 --> 02:49:28,100 What an encounter that was. 6592 02:49:28,220 --> 02:49:29,190 So we got to see a couple of 6593 02:49:29,190 --> 02:49:29,760 portals. 6594 02:49:29,760 --> 02:49:30,760 And talk to some folks. 6595 02:49:30,940 --> 02:49:31,810 And I think you were right in 6596 02:49:31,810 --> 02:49:32,600 the first place. 6597 02:49:32,660 --> 02:49:32,760 Right. 6598 02:49:32,800 --> 02:49:34,020 It's really a business thing. 6599 02:49:34,080 --> 02:49:35,620 It's a way to grab people. 6600 02:49:35,620 --> 02:49:36,320 And hold on to them. 6601 02:49:36,380 --> 02:49:37,320 And sell them to average. 6602 02:49:37,320 --> 02:49:37,640 Really. 6603 02:49:37,820 --> 02:49:39,180 What you're looking for is Stu. 6604 02:49:40,320 --> 02:49:41,210 I've said it time and time 6605 02:49:41,210 --> 02:49:42,020 again. 6606 02:49:42,760 --> 02:49:43,120 It's. 6607 02:49:43,220 --> 02:49:44,100 It is Stu. 6608 02:49:44,380 --> 02:49:46,400 It's just the driving force. 6609 02:49:46,580 --> 02:49:47,840 No matter what happens. 6610 02:49:48,160 --> 02:49:48,880 You bring it. 6611 02:49:49,000 --> 02:49:50,320 All comes back. 6612 02:49:50,780 --> 02:49:51,480 To Stu. 6613 02:49:51,480 --> 02:49:51,500 To Stu. 6614 02:49:52,500 --> 02:49:53,480 He's the glue. 6615 02:49:54,020 --> 02:49:55,500 That holds together. 6616 02:49:55,980 --> 02:49:57,460 The entire tapestry. 6617 02:49:58,260 --> 02:49:59,640 You can even see the stance. 6618 02:49:59,780 --> 02:50:01,160 Sitting stance there. 6619 02:50:01,160 --> 02:50:02,380 On that high stool. 6620 02:50:02,940 --> 02:50:03,880 Cradling the cup. 6621 02:50:04,400 --> 02:50:05,240 The cybersmith. 6622 02:50:05,440 --> 02:50:06,920 Embossed logo on the mug. 6623 02:50:07,920 --> 02:50:09,640 It's really a business thing. 6624 02:50:09,740 --> 02:50:11,240 It's a way to grab people. 6625 02:50:11,240 --> 02:50:11,940 And hold on to them. 6626 02:50:12,000 --> 02:50:13,120 And sell them to advertisers. 6627 02:50:13,120 --> 02:50:14,180 Well the real challenge. 6628 02:50:14,300 --> 02:50:15,180 For all of these portals. 6629 02:50:15,300 --> 02:50:16,060 Is to actually create. 6630 02:50:16,060 --> 02:50:16,260 And look at him. 6631 02:50:16,400 --> 02:50:16,860 It's such. 6632 02:50:17,040 --> 02:50:18,080 It really is style. 6633 02:50:18,160 --> 02:50:18,820 Great style. 6634 02:50:19,340 --> 02:50:19,960 And you knew that he was 6635 02:50:19,960 --> 02:50:20,660 destined. 6636 02:50:20,660 --> 02:50:21,740 For bigger and better things. 6637 02:50:21,820 --> 02:50:22,180 But I mean. 6638 02:50:22,820 --> 02:50:23,040 Look. 6639 02:50:23,100 --> 02:50:24,120 He probably knew that. 6640 02:50:24,220 --> 02:50:24,360 You know. 6641 02:50:24,380 --> 02:50:25,280 And this would have looked good. 6642 02:50:25,280 --> 02:50:25,880 On the CV. 6643 02:50:26,660 --> 02:50:27,100 You know. 6644 02:50:27,280 --> 02:50:28,720 As a communicator. 6645 02:50:28,820 --> 02:50:29,980 I'm a great communicator. 6646 02:50:30,100 --> 02:50:31,740 I've hosted a fucking program. 6647 02:50:31,960 --> 02:50:32,600 A TV show. 6648 02:50:32,840 --> 02:50:33,540 Four seasons. 6649 02:50:33,640 --> 02:50:34,300 Five seasons. 6650 02:50:35,080 --> 02:50:36,200 Broadcast around the world. 6651 02:50:36,940 --> 02:50:37,340 Value. 6652 02:50:37,540 --> 02:50:38,780 That people want to actually 6653 02:50:38,780 --> 02:50:39,580 come back to. 6654 02:50:39,880 --> 02:50:40,920 I think some are doing it. 6655 02:50:40,980 --> 02:50:41,560 And some aren't. 6656 02:50:41,800 --> 02:50:42,460 I think all of them. 6657 02:50:42,460 --> 02:50:43,310 really want to create a 6658 02:50:43,310 --> 02:50:43,860 community. 6659 02:50:44,260 --> 02:50:45,000 And we looked at this guy. 6660 02:50:45,100 --> 02:50:45,700 Justin Hall. 6661 02:50:45,980 --> 02:50:46,240 A little different. 6662 02:50:46,320 --> 02:50:46,500 Yeah. 6663 02:50:46,620 --> 02:50:46,800 Yeah. 6664 02:50:46,800 --> 02:50:47,540 Links from the Underground. 6665 02:50:47,640 --> 02:50:48,540 Well he created sort of. 6666 02:50:48,660 --> 02:50:48,800 You know. 6667 02:50:48,800 --> 02:50:49,850 One of the first community 6668 02:50:49,850 --> 02:50:50,440 feelings. 6669 02:50:50,440 --> 02:50:51,680 A very personal community. 6670 02:50:51,680 --> 02:50:52,800 People would come back to his 6671 02:50:52,800 --> 02:50:53,160 site. 6672 02:50:53,240 --> 02:50:54,000 Over and over again. 6673 02:50:54,060 --> 02:50:54,980 That's what all the big 6674 02:50:54,980 --> 02:50:56,020 companies want now too. 6675 02:50:56,100 --> 02:50:57,300 Get you to keep coming back. 6676 02:50:57,440 --> 02:50:57,840 Coming back. 6677 02:50:58,480 --> 02:50:58,840 Sticky. 6678 02:50:58,840 --> 02:50:58,980 Sticky. 6679 02:50:59,640 --> 02:51:00,460 Now what about you? 6680 02:51:00,520 --> 02:51:01,570 Is this sort of too restraining 6681 02:51:01,570 --> 02:51:02,240 for you to say. 6682 02:51:02,300 --> 02:51:02,380 No. 6683 02:51:02,420 --> 02:51:03,410 I'm always going to go in 6684 02:51:03,410 --> 02:51:04,480 through Net Center. 6685 02:51:04,660 --> 02:51:04,880 Or whatever. 6686 02:51:05,080 --> 02:51:05,140 Well. 6687 02:51:05,280 --> 02:51:05,600 Yeah. 6688 02:51:05,660 --> 02:51:07,150 I'm not one for sort of doing 6689 02:51:07,150 --> 02:51:08,060 the same thing. 6690 02:51:08,060 --> 02:51:08,780 Over and over again. 6691 02:51:08,840 --> 02:51:09,400 The other thing is. 6692 02:51:09,440 --> 02:51:10,500 Is that it's kind of one-upmanship. 6693 02:51:10,680 --> 02:51:11,630 There's always something new 6694 02:51:11,630 --> 02:51:12,720 that somebody else is adding. 6695 02:51:12,820 --> 02:51:13,040 Yeah. 6696 02:51:13,420 --> 02:51:14,040 I don't know. 6697 02:51:14,100 --> 02:51:15,320 I think if you do a few things 6698 02:51:15,320 --> 02:51:16,460 really really well. 6699 02:51:16,580 --> 02:51:17,550 Then I'm going to keep coming 6700 02:51:17,550 --> 02:51:18,470 back to you for those few 6701 02:51:18,470 --> 02:51:18,960 things. 6702 02:51:18,960 --> 02:51:19,140 Look. 6703 02:51:19,240 --> 02:51:20,660 It's the twosome that we've 6704 02:51:20,660 --> 02:51:21,800 seen earlier on. 6705 02:51:21,880 --> 02:51:23,160 They're fucking as thick as 6706 02:51:23,160 --> 02:51:23,780 thieves. 6707 02:51:23,780 --> 02:51:24,400 These two. 6708 02:51:24,920 --> 02:51:25,320 Cybersmith. 6709 02:51:25,320 --> 02:51:27,050 They were playing games with 6710 02:51:27,050 --> 02:51:27,940 each other. 6711 02:51:28,080 --> 02:51:28,950 There was a bit of cyber 6712 02:51:28,950 --> 02:51:29,940 bullying going on. 6713 02:51:30,180 --> 02:51:31,240 And there they are again. 6714 02:51:32,520 --> 02:51:33,810 You don't see one without the 6715 02:51:33,810 --> 02:51:34,720 other. 6716 02:51:35,360 --> 02:51:36,100 And it's like. 6717 02:51:36,160 --> 02:51:36,380 Look. 6718 02:51:36,860 --> 02:51:37,880 Is he putting something else 6719 02:51:37,880 --> 02:51:38,420 there? 6720 02:51:38,480 --> 02:51:39,600 On his arse this time? 6721 02:51:40,240 --> 02:51:41,660 The hand is going down to his 6722 02:51:41,660 --> 02:51:42,320 arse. 6723 02:51:43,380 --> 02:51:44,400 It seems as though it's. 6724 02:51:45,120 --> 02:51:46,080 It's continuing. 6725 02:51:46,220 --> 02:51:46,720 They're touching. 6726 02:51:48,040 --> 02:51:49,640 And they're just having a blast. 6727 02:51:54,140 --> 02:51:54,540 Look. 6728 02:51:54,620 --> 02:51:56,080 It's a laid back scenario in 6729 02:51:56,080 --> 02:51:57,020 California. 6730 02:51:57,020 --> 02:51:57,480 You know. 6731 02:51:58,640 --> 02:51:59,420 You really well. 6732 02:51:59,620 --> 02:52:00,490 Then I'm going to keep coming 6733 02:52:00,490 --> 02:52:01,440 back to you for those. 6734 02:52:01,580 --> 02:52:01,760 Boom. 6735 02:52:01,900 --> 02:52:02,400 In there again. 6736 02:52:02,400 --> 02:52:03,660 Things that you do really well. 6737 02:52:03,780 --> 02:52:04,220 I'm not. 6738 02:52:04,380 --> 02:52:05,140 Hands in the pockets. 6739 02:52:05,340 --> 02:52:06,120 Really a big believer. 6740 02:52:06,260 --> 02:52:07,460 Just loitering. 6741 02:52:07,600 --> 02:52:08,380 There's only going to be one or 6742 02:52:08,380 --> 02:52:08,920 two places. 6743 02:52:09,100 --> 02:52:09,740 That everybody always. 6744 02:52:09,740 --> 02:52:09,940 Well. 6745 02:52:09,980 --> 02:52:10,460 CineSearch. 6746 02:52:10,560 --> 02:52:11,220 The guy I talked to was one 6747 02:52:11,220 --> 02:52:11,760 good example. 6748 02:52:11,760 --> 02:52:12,820 Where they focus on people. 6749 02:52:12,940 --> 02:52:13,940 A bit of horseplay. 6750 02:52:14,520 --> 02:52:15,380 Just hanging around. 6751 02:52:15,520 --> 02:52:15,640 You know. 6752 02:52:15,740 --> 02:52:16,140 Idling. 6753 02:52:16,160 --> 02:52:17,070 Two places that everybody 6754 02:52:17,070 --> 02:52:17,380 always. 6755 02:52:17,380 --> 02:52:17,440 Well. 6756 02:52:18,060 --> 02:52:18,580 CineSearch. 6757 02:52:18,660 --> 02:52:19,420 The guy I talked to was one 6758 02:52:19,420 --> 02:52:20,000 good example. 6759 02:52:20,080 --> 02:52:21,140 Where they focus on people in 6760 02:52:21,140 --> 02:52:21,660 one town. 6761 02:52:21,740 --> 02:52:22,480 And that's kind of useful. 6762 02:52:22,920 --> 02:52:23,960 Rather than the general ones. 6763 02:52:24,200 --> 02:52:24,520 Anyhow. 6764 02:52:24,600 --> 02:52:24,920 Portals. 6765 02:52:25,000 --> 02:52:25,740 We'll check a couple of them 6766 02:52:25,740 --> 02:52:26,000 out. 6767 02:52:26,280 --> 02:52:27,380 That's it for Internet Cafe. 6768 02:52:27,540 --> 02:52:28,540 We'll see you here next time. 6769 02:52:29,200 --> 02:52:29,820 Beautiful stuff. 6770 02:52:29,820 --> 02:52:30,340 Internet Cafe. 6771 02:52:30,500 --> 02:52:32,140 If I could just guarantee. 6772 02:52:32,460 --> 02:52:34,940 Whatever episode of Net Cafe. 6773 02:52:34,940 --> 02:52:35,720 We're going to watch. 6774 02:52:35,720 --> 02:52:36,820 Would have. 6775 02:52:37,880 --> 02:52:39,060 Golden moments. 6776 02:52:39,060 --> 02:52:40,740 Like the Stu versus Homer. 6777 02:52:41,720 --> 02:52:42,620 Battle there. 6778 02:52:43,580 --> 02:52:44,440 Then I would be happy. 6779 02:52:44,540 --> 02:52:45,560 To continue watching. 6780 02:52:45,680 --> 02:52:45,880 I mean. 6781 02:52:45,960 --> 02:52:46,740 I did want. 6782 02:52:46,920 --> 02:52:47,580 I did have. 6783 02:52:48,000 --> 02:52:48,740 Cook Report. 6784 02:52:49,300 --> 02:52:50,440 As a back burner. 6785 02:52:51,220 --> 02:52:51,880 You know. 6786 02:52:52,060 --> 02:52:52,540 Final. 6787 02:52:52,760 --> 02:52:53,820 Fatality move. 6788 02:52:56,520 --> 02:52:58,140 But I like this world. 6789 02:52:58,140 --> 02:52:58,980 That we're in here. 6790 02:52:59,700 --> 02:53:01,020 I like this world. 6791 02:53:01,160 --> 02:53:01,860 They've created. 6792 02:53:04,120 --> 02:53:05,180 Gambling and gaming. 6793 02:53:05,180 --> 02:53:05,840 On the web. 6794 02:53:05,840 --> 02:53:07,520 Do you know. 6795 02:53:07,660 --> 02:53:08,440 It looks great. 6796 02:53:08,520 --> 02:53:10,020 The thumbnail looks fantastic. 6797 02:53:13,020 --> 02:53:14,200 I just think. 6798 02:53:14,300 --> 02:53:15,640 Have we seen it before. 6799 02:53:15,780 --> 02:53:16,100 You know. 6800 02:53:19,440 --> 02:53:20,520 Gamespot.com. 6801 02:53:20,680 --> 02:53:21,560 I just don't think. 6802 02:53:21,700 --> 02:53:22,680 Don't think we've seen it. 6803 02:53:22,740 --> 02:53:23,640 But I like the way. 6804 02:53:23,720 --> 02:53:25,020 They're promoting gambling. 6805 02:53:25,540 --> 02:53:25,780 I mean. 6806 02:53:25,820 --> 02:53:26,860 They mightn't be promoting it. 6807 02:53:27,380 --> 02:53:29,480 We'll get the intro blurb. 6808 02:53:29,820 --> 02:53:31,020 With the three guys. 6809 02:53:31,840 --> 02:53:33,720 In that Seinfeld setup. 6810 02:53:33,720 --> 02:53:34,940 Where they're kind of having. 6811 02:53:35,300 --> 02:53:36,180 Shits and giggles. 6812 02:53:36,180 --> 02:53:37,360 About what's going on. 6813 02:53:37,420 --> 02:53:38,000 A bit of comedy. 6814 02:53:38,000 --> 02:53:38,720 Before they get in. 6815 02:53:38,780 --> 02:53:40,060 And we'll know from there. 6816 02:53:40,800 --> 02:53:41,800 We'll know from there. 6817 02:53:42,000 --> 02:53:43,480 It's Patrick Power himself. 6818 02:53:43,480 --> 02:53:44,080 Says Jeff. 6819 02:53:44,160 --> 02:53:44,720 What do you mean? 6820 02:53:44,760 --> 02:53:45,800 Have we seen that fella? 6821 02:53:46,000 --> 02:53:46,700 Patrick Power. 6822 02:53:50,760 --> 02:53:51,240 Dennis. 6823 02:53:51,420 --> 02:53:51,560 Yeah. 6824 02:53:51,620 --> 02:53:52,180 We've seen it. 6825 02:53:52,260 --> 02:53:52,780 We've seen it. 6826 02:53:52,900 --> 02:53:53,300 Thresh. 6827 02:53:53,480 --> 02:53:54,220 Dennis Fong. 6828 02:53:54,940 --> 02:53:56,320 The world's most successful. 6829 02:53:56,320 --> 02:53:57,260 Computer gamer. 6830 02:53:58,640 --> 02:53:58,960 Yeah. 6831 02:53:59,180 --> 02:53:59,400 Yeah. 6832 02:53:59,400 --> 02:54:00,040 We've seen it. 6833 02:54:00,260 --> 02:54:01,120 Guest analyst. 6834 02:54:01,300 --> 02:54:02,020 Larry Maggot. 6835 02:54:02,880 --> 02:54:03,700 Jonathan Knight. 6836 02:54:03,700 --> 02:54:04,880 I know these names. 6837 02:54:05,040 --> 02:54:05,220 You know. 6838 02:54:09,460 --> 02:54:10,260 I remember. 6839 02:54:10,460 --> 02:54:10,980 When Fong. 6840 02:54:11,880 --> 02:54:13,060 Fong was on the scene. 6841 02:54:13,220 --> 02:54:14,720 He's talking about his Ferrari. 6842 02:54:14,960 --> 02:54:15,680 There's fucking. 6843 02:54:15,680 --> 02:54:16,880 Jimmy Savile again. 6844 02:54:16,980 --> 02:54:17,800 And the Wayback Machine. 6845 02:54:17,880 --> 02:54:18,520 And Father Ted. 6846 02:54:19,040 --> 02:54:19,580 I mean. 6847 02:54:19,880 --> 02:54:21,090 What are they suggesting to us 6848 02:54:21,090 --> 02:54:21,540 here? 6849 02:54:24,040 --> 02:54:24,980 It's a bit loud. 6850 02:54:25,100 --> 02:54:25,260 Sorry. 6851 02:54:25,360 --> 02:54:26,680 The volume is. 6852 02:54:27,260 --> 02:54:28,440 All over the place. 6853 02:54:28,440 --> 02:54:29,460 On these episodes. 6854 02:54:29,460 --> 02:54:30,460 Because they're mastered. 6855 02:54:30,700 --> 02:54:31,540 In different ways. 6856 02:54:34,180 --> 02:54:34,620 Microphobia. 6857 02:54:34,620 --> 02:54:35,700 Thresh. 6858 02:54:35,920 --> 02:54:37,480 He's earned $100,000. 6859 02:54:37,740 --> 02:54:38,000 And a Ferrari. 6860 02:54:38,260 --> 02:54:39,320 Sorry there lads. 6861 02:54:39,420 --> 02:54:41,060 It's absolutely blowing the. 6862 02:54:41,580 --> 02:54:42,600 Your ears off. 6863 02:54:42,680 --> 02:54:43,000 I think. 6864 02:54:44,040 --> 02:54:44,520 Thresh. 6865 02:54:44,800 --> 02:54:45,120 Ferrari. 6866 02:54:45,460 --> 02:54:46,520 Playing computer games. 6867 02:54:47,200 --> 02:54:48,140 If you're into strategy. 6868 02:54:48,300 --> 02:54:48,620 Fantasy. 6869 02:54:48,700 --> 02:54:48,900 Yeah. 6870 02:54:48,960 --> 02:54:49,460 We've seen it. 6871 02:54:50,440 --> 02:54:51,400 Definitely seen it. 6872 02:54:51,480 --> 02:54:51,780 I just. 6873 02:54:51,900 --> 02:54:53,220 I like seeing them again. 6874 02:54:53,440 --> 02:54:55,000 There's some standout moments. 6875 02:54:55,000 --> 02:54:56,140 From each and every one. 6876 02:54:56,780 --> 02:54:57,200 Even that. 6877 02:54:57,240 --> 02:54:58,220 Just that frame there. 6878 02:54:58,220 --> 02:54:58,720 Of your man. 6879 02:54:58,800 --> 02:55:00,520 And look at her leather waistcoat. 6880 02:55:01,120 --> 02:55:01,420 And. 6881 02:55:02,300 --> 02:55:02,820 Scarf. 6882 02:55:03,700 --> 02:55:03,880 You know. 6883 02:55:03,920 --> 02:55:04,720 There's always something. 6884 02:55:04,880 --> 02:55:05,980 There's something different. 6885 02:55:06,840 --> 02:55:08,110 Maybe let's just have a look at 6886 02:55:08,110 --> 02:55:08,860 Stu's. 6887 02:55:09,880 --> 02:55:11,060 Technique here again. 6888 02:55:11,140 --> 02:55:12,380 We'll just go back to Stu. 6889 02:55:12,780 --> 02:55:13,460 Except you gotta memorize. 6890 02:55:13,460 --> 02:55:13,620 Right. 6891 02:55:13,980 --> 02:55:15,280 Like for the Great Lakes. 6892 02:55:15,360 --> 02:55:16,100 You'd put homes. 6893 02:55:16,180 --> 02:55:16,440 Right. 6894 02:55:16,520 --> 02:55:16,520 You know. 6895 02:55:16,520 --> 02:55:17,300 Here on Ontario. 6896 02:55:17,400 --> 02:55:17,640 Right. 6897 02:55:17,640 --> 02:55:17,780 Etc. 6898 02:55:17,780 --> 02:55:17,820 Right. 6899 02:55:18,880 --> 02:55:19,380 So. 6900 02:55:19,380 --> 02:55:20,440 I would use that. 6901 02:55:20,600 --> 02:55:22,120 To remember certain facts. 6902 02:55:22,220 --> 02:55:23,360 And I'd create funny ones. 6903 02:55:23,420 --> 02:55:24,300 To go along with that. 6904 02:55:24,540 --> 02:55:25,680 And that became a running joke. 6905 02:55:25,740 --> 02:55:26,120 And eventually. 6906 02:55:26,120 --> 02:55:27,160 I made a game about it. 6907 02:55:27,280 --> 02:55:28,420 I put the game together. 6908 02:55:28,420 --> 02:55:29,740 On an internet chat room. 6909 02:55:29,740 --> 02:55:31,170 I like the enthusiasm this guy 6910 02:55:31,170 --> 02:55:31,560 has. 6911 02:55:31,560 --> 02:55:32,140 I had a point in my program it. 6912 02:55:32,760 --> 02:55:34,940 Jungle Jill and Serpica rules. 6913 02:55:35,560 --> 02:55:37,180 And it took off pretty well. 6914 02:55:37,560 --> 02:55:38,200 I brought it to Berkeley 6915 02:55:38,200 --> 02:55:39,580 Systems in the summer of 96. 6916 02:55:39,980 --> 02:55:40,280 And. 6917 02:55:41,040 --> 02:55:41,720 It's launched now. 6918 02:55:41,800 --> 02:55:41,940 All right. 6919 02:55:41,940 --> 02:55:42,620 Berkeley Systems. 6920 02:55:42,700 --> 02:55:43,400 The other guys who did. 6921 02:55:43,460 --> 02:55:44,160 You don't know Jack. 6922 02:55:44,220 --> 02:55:45,030 Which is one of the most 6923 02:55:45,030 --> 02:55:45,900 successful games. 6924 02:55:45,900 --> 02:55:46,200 Both. 6925 02:55:46,540 --> 02:55:47,360 In software. 6926 02:55:47,520 --> 02:55:48,180 And on the web. 6927 02:55:48,280 --> 02:55:49,700 I'd love to get a full res. 6928 02:55:49,780 --> 02:55:50,540 episode something. 6929 02:55:50,720 --> 02:55:52,160 Just 480p. 6930 02:55:52,400 --> 02:55:52,800 Even you know. 6931 02:55:52,800 --> 02:55:53,660 Not a 240. 6932 02:55:53,660 --> 02:55:54,390 Now what's the relationship 6933 02:55:54,390 --> 02:55:54,660 there? 6934 02:55:54,700 --> 02:55:55,620 Is this in the same place? 6935 02:55:55,780 --> 02:55:56,100 Look. 6936 02:55:56,340 --> 02:55:56,980 I mean. 6937 02:55:57,920 --> 02:55:59,460 Imagine getting 4k. 6938 02:56:00,100 --> 02:56:00,720 Of this. 6939 02:56:03,660 --> 02:56:04,100 Beautiful. 6940 02:56:05,500 --> 02:56:06,630 We might as well mark that as 6941 02:56:06,630 --> 02:56:07,760 watched. 6942 02:56:09,260 --> 02:56:10,540 Let's just go back. 6943 02:56:10,540 --> 02:56:12,000 And have a little look there. 6944 02:56:12,460 --> 02:56:13,060 99. 6945 02:56:15,760 --> 02:56:16,680 Online literature. 6946 02:56:17,180 --> 02:56:18,700 Adventure travel online. 6947 02:56:19,420 --> 02:56:21,200 I can't remember her hair. 6948 02:56:22,660 --> 02:56:23,780 Or face. 6949 02:56:30,340 --> 02:56:31,440 Extreme web. 6950 02:56:33,580 --> 02:56:34,180 Post. 6951 02:56:34,360 --> 02:56:35,860 Pacucha Crew and Most. 6952 02:56:37,440 --> 02:56:38,380 Extreme web. 6953 02:56:39,020 --> 02:56:39,240 I mean. 6954 02:56:39,320 --> 02:56:40,300 It sounds like something. 6955 02:56:40,760 --> 02:56:42,060 That's been watched. 6956 02:56:42,340 --> 02:56:42,620 Do you know? 6957 02:56:44,280 --> 02:56:45,360 Webby awards. 6958 02:56:45,940 --> 02:56:47,100 I think we've seen them. 6959 02:56:48,460 --> 02:56:49,060 We were watching. 6960 02:56:49,060 --> 02:56:49,780 The last day. 6961 02:56:49,840 --> 02:56:50,920 Maybe it was a different. 6962 02:56:51,340 --> 02:56:52,800 Iteration of Webby awards. 6963 02:56:54,580 --> 02:56:55,420 It had. 6964 02:56:55,620 --> 02:56:56,480 Your man. 6965 02:56:57,000 --> 02:56:58,040 The Scottish fella. 6966 02:56:58,760 --> 02:57:00,080 With the stupid hair. 6967 02:57:01,080 --> 02:57:02,480 Didn't watch part 2 of it. 6968 02:57:03,340 --> 02:57:04,060 His face. 6969 02:57:04,720 --> 02:57:05,120 Definitely. 6970 02:57:05,340 --> 02:57:05,820 Recognized. 6971 02:57:05,820 --> 02:57:06,840 I've seen him before. 6972 02:57:06,940 --> 02:57:07,700 It's an intense. 6973 02:57:08,800 --> 02:57:09,240 Situation. 6974 02:57:10,940 --> 02:57:11,920 Humor online. 6975 02:57:13,580 --> 02:57:14,580 Personal investing. 6976 02:57:14,580 --> 02:57:14,700 Personal investing. 6977 02:57:14,700 --> 02:57:15,220 Online. 6978 02:57:15,220 --> 02:57:15,260 Online. 6979 02:57:15,260 --> 02:57:17,100 See I've clicked a few of them. 6980 02:57:17,280 --> 02:57:18,420 We've watched a few of them. 6981 02:57:18,540 --> 02:57:18,820 They've been. 6982 02:57:18,940 --> 02:57:19,300 They've been. 6983 02:57:20,160 --> 02:57:20,960 Clicked like. 6984 02:57:21,080 --> 02:57:22,120 But I'm not sure if. 6985 02:57:23,260 --> 02:57:23,760 You know. 6986 02:57:23,760 --> 02:57:24,900 Because we were watching a few 6987 02:57:24,900 --> 02:57:25,400 of these. 6988 02:57:25,540 --> 02:57:26,870 Before Dara even made this 6989 02:57:26,870 --> 02:57:27,500 website. 6990 02:57:28,780 --> 02:57:30,020 Let's just see this one. 6991 02:57:30,360 --> 02:57:31,760 Is this the one we watched the 6992 02:57:31,760 --> 02:57:32,540 last day? 6993 02:57:33,420 --> 02:57:34,000 The Webby's. 6994 02:57:34,840 --> 02:57:36,500 At the Masonic Hall. 6995 02:57:39,500 --> 02:57:40,020 Netcafe. 6996 02:57:40,160 --> 02:57:42,080 The 1999 Webby Awards. 6997 02:57:42,320 --> 02:57:43,960 Notice is a new Webby's. 6998 02:57:44,620 --> 02:57:45,360 It's a new one. 6999 02:57:45,560 --> 02:57:45,900 Thankfully. 7000 02:57:46,340 --> 02:57:47,220 Jimmy Savile. 7001 02:57:47,220 --> 02:57:48,380 Is not being recommended. 7002 02:57:48,560 --> 02:57:49,360 On the more videos. 7003 02:57:50,000 --> 02:57:51,360 Father Ted still is. 7004 02:57:52,360 --> 02:57:52,840 Adam. 7005 02:57:52,960 --> 02:57:53,980 Thank you very much there. 7006 02:57:54,060 --> 02:57:54,700 Give them a tick. 7007 02:57:54,740 --> 02:57:55,460 As you're going to save 7008 02:57:55,460 --> 02:57:55,900 yourself. 7009 02:57:55,900 --> 02:57:56,360 In the future. 7010 02:57:56,620 --> 02:57:57,940 I just did there Adam. 7011 02:57:57,940 --> 02:57:58,900 On that last one. 7012 02:57:58,980 --> 02:57:59,620 Thanks very much. 7013 02:57:59,620 --> 02:58:00,180 For the tip. 7014 02:58:02,920 --> 02:58:03,590 Still have to watch the part 7015 02:58:03,590 --> 02:58:04,500 two. 7016 02:58:04,600 --> 02:58:05,560 Of the Webby Awards. 7017 02:58:05,940 --> 02:58:07,040 From the last one. 7018 02:58:07,080 --> 02:58:08,600 But this is 1999. 7019 02:58:09,860 --> 02:58:10,900 Best of the web. 7020 02:58:11,600 --> 02:58:13,040 Best of the web. 7021 02:58:13,280 --> 02:58:13,840 Which you know. 7022 02:58:13,920 --> 02:58:15,360 There's always something there. 7023 02:58:15,560 --> 02:58:16,670 Hopefully the atmosphere is 7024 02:58:16,670 --> 02:58:17,180 better. 7025 02:58:17,540 --> 02:58:18,400 Than it was. 7026 02:58:19,260 --> 02:58:20,940 In the last auditorium. 7027 02:58:21,000 --> 02:58:21,960 The Masonic Hall. 7028 02:58:22,040 --> 02:58:22,860 In San Francisco. 7029 02:58:23,860 --> 02:58:25,260 But even just. 7030 02:58:25,260 --> 02:58:26,800 At this moment here. 7031 02:58:27,680 --> 02:58:29,120 A strange shot. 7032 02:58:29,320 --> 02:58:30,410 Where everybody seems to be 7033 02:58:30,410 --> 02:58:30,980 clapping. 7034 02:58:31,400 --> 02:58:32,700 Except this one individual. 7035 02:58:33,020 --> 02:58:34,290 Turns around and spikes the 7036 02:58:34,290 --> 02:58:34,940 camera. 7037 02:58:35,980 --> 02:58:36,840 Keep your eye here. 7038 02:58:38,500 --> 02:58:39,360 Was that you? 7039 02:58:40,860 --> 02:58:42,240 In the toilet downstairs. 7040 02:58:43,920 --> 02:58:45,000 It reeks. 7041 02:58:45,220 --> 02:58:46,250 Haven't heard that one in a 7042 02:58:46,250 --> 02:58:46,760 while. 7043 02:58:46,880 --> 02:58:47,600 Thank you very much. 7044 02:58:47,720 --> 02:58:48,680 Memorable hair. 7045 02:58:49,600 --> 02:58:50,460 For the tip. 7046 02:58:50,860 --> 02:58:51,860 Thanks for streaming today. 7047 02:58:53,400 --> 02:58:54,580 Feeling going well at home. 7048 02:58:54,640 --> 02:58:55,460 But really enjoying the stream. 7049 02:58:55,520 --> 02:58:56,140 Thank you very much. 7050 02:58:56,460 --> 02:58:57,440 Look at this here. 7051 02:58:57,540 --> 02:58:58,640 For something ominous. 7052 02:58:59,020 --> 02:59:02,320 No clapping. 7053 02:59:02,900 --> 02:59:03,480 No clapping. 7054 02:59:03,480 --> 02:59:04,720 Just turns. 7055 02:59:04,720 --> 02:59:06,120 And spikes us. 7056 02:59:07,680 --> 02:59:08,280 Very. 7057 02:59:08,460 --> 02:59:09,360 Very strange stuff. 7058 02:59:09,480 --> 02:59:09,800 Indeed. 7059 02:59:19,300 --> 02:59:21,160 We don't need to labor it. 7060 02:59:21,160 --> 02:59:22,120 San Francisco. 7061 02:59:22,120 --> 02:59:22,200 San Francisco. 7062 02:59:22,200 --> 02:59:23,400 To find out who won. 7063 02:59:23,480 --> 02:59:24,200 San Francisco. 7064 02:59:25,000 --> 02:59:25,980 Website categories. 7065 02:59:26,440 --> 02:59:27,560 Website categories. 7066 02:59:28,280 --> 02:59:29,180 Just make sure that volume is 7067 02:59:29,180 --> 02:59:31,240 increased to the maximum there. 7068 02:59:31,320 --> 02:59:33,220 Because I can't hear it at all. 7069 02:59:33,540 --> 02:59:33,700 I mean. 7070 02:59:33,920 --> 02:59:34,240 I hope. 7071 02:59:34,380 --> 02:59:35,420 Hope you can hear it. 7072 02:59:35,720 --> 02:59:36,060 Because I. 7073 02:59:36,140 --> 02:59:37,900 I'm getting very low on my. 7074 02:59:38,400 --> 02:59:39,500 Well, it's because I'm wearing 7075 02:59:39,500 --> 02:59:39,740 these. 7076 02:59:39,820 --> 02:59:40,800 I don't have... 7077 02:59:40,800 --> 02:59:41,180 No, no. 7078 02:59:42,300 --> 02:59:43,250 Should be able to control it 7079 02:59:43,250 --> 02:59:44,280 from here. 7080 02:59:45,320 --> 02:59:46,300 Hopefully this doesn't fuck the 7081 02:59:46,300 --> 02:59:47,080 audio up. 7082 02:59:47,160 --> 02:59:48,000 Give me a second there. 7083 02:59:48,060 --> 02:59:49,670 I'm trying to have the 7084 02:59:49,670 --> 02:59:51,280 customized... 7085 02:59:56,960 --> 02:59:57,840 Bap, bap, bap. 7086 02:59:58,080 --> 02:59:58,640 Can you hear me? 7087 02:59:58,720 --> 02:59:59,520 Bap, bap, bap. 7088 03:00:01,680 --> 03:00:02,680 Please be careful. 7089 03:00:02,820 --> 03:00:03,520 Bap, bap, bap. 7090 03:00:03,620 --> 03:00:04,400 Can you hear me there? 7091 03:00:04,460 --> 03:00:04,900 Is it okay? 7092 03:00:05,120 --> 03:00:06,300 Is it coming through? 7093 03:00:07,940 --> 03:00:08,980 Yeah, it's coming through. 7094 03:00:09,040 --> 03:00:09,760 You can hear me. 7095 03:00:10,800 --> 03:00:11,980 And my headphones have been 7096 03:00:11,980 --> 03:00:13,060 fixed now. 7097 03:00:13,280 --> 03:00:14,220 Slippery fist. 7098 03:00:15,100 --> 03:00:16,380 Thank you very much there. 7099 03:00:16,740 --> 03:00:18,410 You see, that's a tip towards 7100 03:00:18,410 --> 03:00:20,320 the Santee Blunt t-shirt. 7101 03:00:22,720 --> 03:00:24,240 Which I won't be buying. 7102 03:00:24,880 --> 03:00:25,800 But thank you very much. 7103 03:00:26,680 --> 03:00:28,080 The Webby's coming up next. 7104 03:00:28,400 --> 03:00:29,350 Yeah, I need to increase that 7105 03:00:29,350 --> 03:00:29,800 for you. 7106 03:00:29,860 --> 03:00:30,920 Even though I've tried my best 7107 03:00:30,920 --> 03:00:32,840 there to turn it up a few notches. 7108 03:00:34,060 --> 03:00:34,980 Yeah, there's some funny, 7109 03:00:34,980 --> 03:00:37,520 interesting visuals already. 7110 03:00:37,520 --> 03:00:38,600 What the fuck is she wearing 7111 03:00:38,600 --> 03:00:39,020 there? 7112 03:00:40,300 --> 03:00:41,360 Zoe Wanamaker. 7113 03:00:41,480 --> 03:00:42,780 Or maybe that's the same girl 7114 03:00:42,780 --> 03:00:44,110 from the last one that was 7115 03:00:44,110 --> 03:00:45,940 presenting with Alan Cumming or 7116 03:00:45,940 --> 03:00:47,380 whatever his name is. 7117 03:00:47,940 --> 03:00:49,880 Up there, 6.5. 7118 03:00:50,340 --> 03:00:53,480 Turn it up to 7 or 8 decibels. 7119 03:00:53,940 --> 03:00:54,680 Or 9. 7120 03:00:54,740 --> 03:00:56,280 Let's go 9 on it and see how we 7121 03:00:56,280 --> 03:00:57,260 fare up there. 7122 03:00:57,260 --> 03:00:58,520 Next at the Net Cafe. 7123 03:00:59,600 --> 03:01:01,160 The Net Cafe is made possible 7124 03:01:01,160 --> 03:01:03,880 in part by BigStar.com. 7125 03:01:04,100 --> 03:01:04,780 How about that? 7126 03:01:04,820 --> 03:01:05,400 Is that okay? 7127 03:01:05,960 --> 03:01:07,540 It sounds grand for me now. 7128 03:01:08,660 --> 03:01:09,040 With thousands of... 7129 03:01:09,040 --> 03:01:10,340 COVID-19. 7130 03:01:10,840 --> 03:01:11,960 And that was a bit loud there. 7131 03:01:12,040 --> 03:01:12,440 Sounds good. 7132 03:01:12,520 --> 03:01:12,960 Spasmoid. 7133 03:01:13,000 --> 03:01:13,580 Thank you very much. 7134 03:01:14,440 --> 03:01:15,720 Handheld portal device. 7135 03:01:15,780 --> 03:01:16,900 Videos and DVDs. 7136 03:01:16,900 --> 03:01:18,800 Who says, stew forever. 7137 03:01:18,800 --> 03:01:20,160 For the whole family. 7138 03:01:21,480 --> 03:01:23,210 Now we're taking a risk with 7139 03:01:23,210 --> 03:01:23,860 the Webbys. 7140 03:01:24,000 --> 03:01:25,110 You know it's going to have 7141 03:01:25,110 --> 03:01:26,820 some interesting visuals in it. 7142 03:01:27,180 --> 03:01:28,170 But there will be a lack of 7143 03:01:28,170 --> 03:01:28,660 stew. 7144 03:01:29,160 --> 03:01:30,350 And that departure kind of, you 7145 03:01:30,350 --> 03:01:31,480 know, it's never... 7146 03:01:32,460 --> 03:01:33,730 Look, let's just see how we get 7147 03:01:33,730 --> 03:01:34,260 on. 7148 03:01:35,020 --> 03:01:35,740 We can always just dip out 7149 03:01:35,740 --> 03:01:36,960 again, you know. 7150 03:01:38,340 --> 03:01:40,280 But I do like to interrogate 7151 03:01:40,280 --> 03:01:42,300 each and every piece of media 7152 03:01:42,300 --> 03:01:43,380 to the hilt. 7153 03:01:44,360 --> 03:01:45,300 And see it through. 7154 03:01:47,480 --> 03:01:47,880 I don't think Cummings is in 7155 03:01:47,880 --> 03:01:49,020 this one. 7156 03:01:49,020 --> 03:01:49,760 Computers and video. 7157 03:01:50,220 --> 03:01:51,600 With DVD authoring and MPEG 7158 03:01:51,600 --> 03:01:53,160 encoding services. 7159 03:01:55,360 --> 03:01:57,060 Hi and welcome to the Net Cafe. 7160 03:01:57,260 --> 03:01:57,780 I'm here with... 7161 03:01:57,780 --> 03:01:58,740 That's sensational. 7162 03:01:58,920 --> 03:02:00,260 Great quality visual. 7163 03:02:00,560 --> 03:02:01,700 Great quality audio. 7164 03:02:02,900 --> 03:02:03,970 Just, you want to see more of 7165 03:02:03,970 --> 03:02:04,680 this. 7166 03:02:05,040 --> 03:02:06,740 You know, we want loads of this. 7167 03:02:06,940 --> 03:02:07,720 But we're not going to get 7168 03:02:07,720 --> 03:02:08,280 loads of it. 7169 03:02:08,600 --> 03:02:09,670 With Rebecca Eisenberg and 7170 03:02:09,670 --> 03:02:10,680 Andrew DeVries. 7171 03:02:10,780 --> 03:02:12,140 And we have a very special... 7172 03:02:12,140 --> 03:02:13,400 Who's Eisenberg? 7173 03:02:13,540 --> 03:02:14,660 Where's Jane? 7174 03:02:15,920 --> 03:02:17,960 They replaced Jane with Eisenberg. 7175 03:02:18,180 --> 03:02:19,520 Hi and welcome to the Net Cafe. 7176 03:02:19,700 --> 03:02:21,010 I'm here with Rebecca Eisenberg 7177 03:02:21,010 --> 03:02:22,120 and Andrew DeVries. 7178 03:02:22,120 --> 03:02:23,600 And we have a very special show 7179 03:02:23,600 --> 03:02:24,440 for you tonight. 7180 03:02:24,580 --> 03:02:26,500 The 1999 Webby Awards. 7181 03:02:26,920 --> 03:02:28,080 The best 22 websites of the 7182 03:02:28,080 --> 03:02:29,590 year, if it's possible to say 7183 03:02:29,590 --> 03:02:30,120 that. 7184 03:02:30,340 --> 03:02:30,520 Yeah. 7185 03:02:30,780 --> 03:02:32,300 Categories ranging from art to 7186 03:02:32,300 --> 03:02:32,780 weird. 7187 03:02:33,000 --> 03:02:33,440 And Rebecca... 7188 03:02:33,440 --> 03:02:34,540 Lovely stuff. 7189 03:02:35,320 --> 03:02:36,420 Art to weird. 7190 03:02:36,460 --> 03:02:37,620 You have this glowing column in 7191 03:02:37,620 --> 03:02:38,830 your newspaper column about the 7192 03:02:38,830 --> 03:02:39,340 Webby's. 7193 03:02:39,380 --> 03:02:40,400 I thought you were going to be 7194 03:02:40,400 --> 03:02:41,200 critical and cynical. 7195 03:02:41,380 --> 03:02:42,900 Well, already there is good 7196 03:02:42,900 --> 03:02:44,820 vibes coming from Eisenberg. 7197 03:02:45,060 --> 03:02:46,300 And Stu's, they're both happy 7198 03:02:46,300 --> 03:02:47,620 with each other there. 7199 03:02:47,900 --> 03:02:48,680 So, I mean... 7200 03:02:48,680 --> 03:02:50,670 Maybe she's a good replacement 7201 03:02:50,670 --> 03:02:51,440 for Jane. 7202 03:02:51,520 --> 03:02:52,100 But it's sad. 7203 03:02:52,220 --> 03:02:54,160 If Jane was replaced in 1999. 7204 03:02:54,520 --> 03:02:54,800 You loved it. 7205 03:02:55,140 --> 03:02:55,920 I did love it. 7206 03:02:55,980 --> 03:02:57,070 You know, I loved it primarily 7207 03:02:57,070 --> 03:02:58,000 because of the party. 7208 03:02:58,320 --> 03:02:59,200 Have we seen this? 7209 03:02:59,200 --> 03:03:01,000 I remember Eisenberg from 7210 03:03:01,000 --> 03:03:03,000 before, from somewhere. 7211 03:03:03,100 --> 03:03:04,520 Maybe she featured as a guest. 7212 03:03:05,580 --> 03:03:06,120 Let's just see. 7213 03:03:06,240 --> 03:03:06,840 Ah, okay. 7214 03:03:07,380 --> 03:03:08,320 Yeah, I mean, this year, you 7215 03:03:08,320 --> 03:03:09,660 know, I loved it primarily 7216 03:03:09,660 --> 03:03:10,960 because of the party. 7217 03:03:11,180 --> 03:03:12,060 Ah, okay. 7218 03:03:12,500 --> 03:03:14,060 Yeah, I mean, this year the Webby's 7219 03:03:14,060 --> 03:03:15,360 had some pretty wealthy 7220 03:03:15,360 --> 03:03:16,160 sponsors. 7221 03:03:18,120 --> 03:03:20,060 Thank you very much, Darren. 7222 03:03:20,920 --> 03:03:22,170 Great to see the Shafé Crackers 7223 03:03:22,170 --> 03:03:22,780 back. 7224 03:03:23,120 --> 03:03:24,560 It's always, always a pleasure. 7225 03:03:24,700 --> 03:03:25,340 Thank you very much. 7226 03:03:25,380 --> 03:03:27,390 And thank you very much for 7227 03:03:27,390 --> 03:03:29,660 facilitating this with your 7228 03:03:29,660 --> 03:03:31,460 extensive website. 7229 03:03:31,840 --> 03:03:33,150 I haven't used any of these 7230 03:03:33,150 --> 03:03:34,080 today yet. 7231 03:03:34,620 --> 03:03:35,920 Let's maybe hopefully get 7232 03:03:35,920 --> 03:03:37,900 something out of this here. 7233 03:03:37,960 --> 03:03:39,170 but I like to use them for the 7234 03:03:39,170 --> 03:03:40,280 studio-based shows. 7235 03:03:40,600 --> 03:03:41,700 Intel and others, that pumped a 7236 03:03:41,700 --> 03:03:42,760 lot of money into it. 7237 03:03:42,760 --> 03:03:43,750 Sort of a more corporate Webby's 7238 03:03:43,750 --> 03:03:44,860 than, I guess, the first couple 7239 03:03:44,860 --> 03:03:45,280 of years. 7240 03:03:45,300 --> 03:03:45,860 Right, it was a lot more 7241 03:03:45,860 --> 03:03:46,240 corporate. 7242 03:03:46,360 --> 03:03:47,860 And the result was a lot more 7243 03:03:47,860 --> 03:03:49,640 free food and free drinks. 7244 03:03:50,100 --> 03:03:50,820 And, you know, a lot... 7245 03:03:50,820 --> 03:03:51,940 I know the party was weird. 7246 03:03:51,960 --> 03:03:52,780 What about the awards? 7247 03:03:52,920 --> 03:03:53,360 Websites? 7248 03:03:53,560 --> 03:03:54,180 The awards. 7249 03:03:54,460 --> 03:03:55,880 That is too... 7250 03:03:55,880 --> 03:03:57,240 Let us get... 7251 03:03:57,240 --> 03:03:58,220 We're having fun. 7252 03:03:58,220 --> 03:03:59,520 But let's just remember what 7253 03:03:59,520 --> 03:04:00,900 the core principle of the show 7254 03:04:00,900 --> 03:04:02,340 is to talk about the awards. 7255 03:04:02,860 --> 03:04:03,470 Right, it was a lot more 7256 03:04:03,470 --> 03:04:04,200 corporate. 7257 03:04:04,360 --> 03:04:05,880 And the result was a lot more 7258 03:04:05,880 --> 03:04:07,680 free food and free drinks. 7259 03:04:07,680 --> 03:04:08,680 And, you know... 7260 03:04:08,680 --> 03:04:09,920 But I know the party was weird. 7261 03:04:09,940 --> 03:04:10,760 What about the awards? 7262 03:04:10,880 --> 03:04:11,340 Websites? 7263 03:04:11,420 --> 03:04:11,980 That kind of stuff. 7264 03:04:12,020 --> 03:04:12,100 Websites? 7265 03:04:12,100 --> 03:04:13,210 Well, the awards themselves, 7266 03:04:13,210 --> 03:04:14,060 you know, that was great 7267 03:04:14,060 --> 03:04:15,100 because they were short. 7268 03:04:15,560 --> 03:04:16,740 The acceptance speeches were 7269 03:04:16,740 --> 03:04:18,250 gratefully limited to five 7270 03:04:18,250 --> 03:04:20,340 words, which people maintained. 7271 03:04:20,800 --> 03:04:21,980 Some in some very interesting 7272 03:04:21,980 --> 03:04:22,620 fashion. 7273 03:04:22,920 --> 03:04:24,640 We were called a commercial scum. 7274 03:04:24,740 --> 03:04:25,120 Right. 7275 03:04:25,200 --> 03:04:26,140 By the website. 7276 03:04:26,140 --> 03:04:26,800 An even worse language. 7277 03:04:26,800 --> 03:04:29,160 I think I remember hearing this 7278 03:04:29,160 --> 03:04:30,700 commercial scum. 7279 03:04:32,040 --> 03:04:32,540 Language, I think. 7280 03:04:32,560 --> 03:04:33,040 Fashion. 7281 03:04:33,320 --> 03:04:35,060 We were called a commercial scum. 7282 03:04:35,140 --> 03:04:35,520 Right. 7283 03:04:35,580 --> 03:04:36,520 By the website. 7284 03:04:36,520 --> 03:04:37,660 An even worse language, I think. 7285 03:04:37,660 --> 03:04:38,280 Right, right. 7286 03:04:38,400 --> 03:04:39,530 So I thought that made it short 7287 03:04:39,530 --> 03:04:40,020 as good. 7288 03:04:40,220 --> 03:04:41,060 Andrew, what did you think? 7289 03:04:41,300 --> 03:04:42,360 Well, you know, if this is 7290 03:04:42,360 --> 03:04:43,890 supposed to emulate the Academy 7291 03:04:43,890 --> 03:04:45,350 Awards, to me, it's missing 7292 03:04:45,350 --> 03:04:46,060 something. 7293 03:04:46,240 --> 03:04:46,340 All right? 7294 03:04:46,460 --> 03:04:47,600 I'm kind of a Hollywood kind of 7295 03:04:47,600 --> 03:04:47,960 guy. 7296 03:04:47,960 --> 03:04:48,820 I want the beautiful people. 7297 03:04:49,040 --> 03:04:50,070 I haven't even gotten to the 7298 03:04:50,070 --> 03:04:50,820 episode yet. 7299 03:04:50,940 --> 03:04:52,500 And he's slagging it off. 7300 03:04:52,560 --> 03:04:53,440 You know, I want celebrities. 7301 03:04:53,560 --> 03:04:54,060 I want stars. 7302 03:04:54,300 --> 03:04:55,420 The web is really about, you 7303 03:04:55,420 --> 03:04:56,800 know, creating... 7304 03:04:56,800 --> 03:04:57,600 I got that vibe. 7305 03:04:57,600 --> 03:04:58,790 I got that vibe from the last 7306 03:04:58,790 --> 03:05:00,220 one we watched, you know, where 7307 03:05:00,220 --> 03:05:01,540 they were taking the piss. 7308 03:05:02,160 --> 03:05:03,230 They didn't treat it like it 7309 03:05:03,230 --> 03:05:04,300 was a proper award show. 7310 03:05:04,300 --> 03:05:05,550 And some of the people's 7311 03:05:05,550 --> 03:05:07,000 acceptance speeches were 7312 03:05:07,000 --> 03:05:08,640 terrible and just bizarre. 7313 03:05:08,640 --> 03:05:09,340 The stores. 7314 03:05:09,700 --> 03:05:10,840 It's really, to me, not so much 7315 03:05:10,840 --> 03:05:11,950 about Hollywood and 7316 03:05:11,950 --> 03:05:12,760 entertainment. 7317 03:05:12,940 --> 03:05:14,110 So you've got to get a few more 7318 03:05:14,110 --> 03:05:15,640 celebrities there to really wow 7319 03:05:15,640 --> 03:05:16,000 me. 7320 03:05:16,000 --> 03:05:17,100 But the idea of recognizing 7321 03:05:17,100 --> 03:05:18,260 great websites is probably a 7322 03:05:18,260 --> 03:05:18,840 good one. 7323 03:05:18,960 --> 03:05:19,260 I agree. 7324 03:05:19,300 --> 03:05:20,630 And the best websites are made 7325 03:05:20,630 --> 03:05:21,220 by geeks. 7326 03:05:21,400 --> 03:05:22,980 And geeks are geeks. 7327 03:05:23,080 --> 03:05:23,640 All right. 7328 03:05:23,920 --> 03:05:24,700 Well, we're going to take you 7329 03:05:24,700 --> 03:05:25,680 to the Herbst Theatre. 7330 03:05:25,860 --> 03:05:26,820 I think we've seen it. 7331 03:05:26,980 --> 03:05:28,080 Somebody there said that we 7332 03:05:28,080 --> 03:05:28,660 haven't. 7333 03:05:28,700 --> 03:05:29,440 I think we've seen it. 7334 03:05:29,500 --> 03:05:31,090 San Francisco right now for the 7335 03:05:31,090 --> 03:05:32,780 1999 Webby Awards. 7336 03:05:33,060 --> 03:05:33,900 No, not seen it. 7337 03:05:36,200 --> 03:05:38,440 Feather boar and knots and ones 7338 03:05:38,440 --> 03:05:40,020 on that. 7339 03:05:40,080 --> 03:05:41,680 Is that Eisenberg there that we've 7340 03:05:41,680 --> 03:05:42,340 just seen? 7341 03:05:42,600 --> 03:05:43,430 Is that what she wore to the 7342 03:05:43,430 --> 03:05:44,200 fucking thing? 7343 03:05:45,480 --> 03:05:46,210 Fair play to her if she did do 7344 03:05:46,210 --> 03:05:46,800 that. 7345 03:05:46,840 --> 03:05:47,540 It looks like her. 7346 03:05:48,420 --> 03:05:49,180 Same face. 7347 03:05:57,440 --> 03:05:55,240 The Webby's is San Francisco's 7348 03:05:55,240 --> 03:06:00,220 version of the Oscars. 7349 03:06:00,560 --> 03:06:01,620 The Academy Awards. 7350 03:06:01,840 --> 03:06:02,900 Well, it's not different hair. 7351 03:06:03,280 --> 03:06:05,330 And the event comes complete 7352 03:06:05,330 --> 03:06:06,600 with limos. 7353 03:06:07,160 --> 03:06:07,600 A red carpet. 7354 03:06:07,900 --> 03:06:08,500 Limos. 7355 03:06:08,900 --> 03:06:10,460 An adoring press. 7356 03:06:10,860 --> 03:06:12,440 And weird outfits. 7357 03:06:12,720 --> 03:06:13,600 This is exactly. 7358 03:06:14,060 --> 03:06:15,680 Again, Deja Stew. 7359 03:06:16,340 --> 03:06:17,040 Didn't he say the exact same 7360 03:06:17,040 --> 03:06:17,540 stuff. 7361 03:06:17,540 --> 03:06:19,140 Same stuff about the last Webby 7362 03:06:19,140 --> 03:06:20,750 Awards episode where it's like 7363 03:06:20,750 --> 03:06:21,640 weird stuff. 7364 03:06:22,540 --> 03:06:23,260 Celebrities. 7365 03:06:24,140 --> 03:06:25,160 Red carpets. 7366 03:06:26,140 --> 03:06:27,180 Weird hair. 7367 03:06:27,720 --> 03:06:29,080 A red carpet. 7368 03:06:29,540 --> 03:06:30,580 An adoring press. 7369 03:06:30,960 --> 03:06:32,380 And weird outfits. 7370 03:06:32,900 --> 03:06:34,720 It's identical to the last Webby 7371 03:06:34,720 --> 03:06:36,200 Awards they did. 7372 03:06:36,640 --> 03:06:37,480 That lad there wearing a 7373 03:06:37,480 --> 03:06:38,560 fucking... 7374 03:06:38,560 --> 03:06:39,560 A digital camera. 7375 03:06:39,560 --> 03:06:40,520 A digital camera. 7376 03:06:40,520 --> 03:06:42,400 And looking very suspicious 7377 03:06:42,400 --> 03:06:43,700 whilst doing it. 7378 03:06:43,780 --> 03:06:44,990 Wearing a digital camera around 7379 03:06:44,990 --> 03:06:45,500 his neck. 7380 03:06:48,140 --> 03:06:50,340 And he's got a piece of cheese. 7381 03:06:50,720 --> 03:06:52,100 A piece of cheese. 7382 03:06:52,600 --> 03:06:54,980 And a wine glass to boot. 7383 03:06:58,480 --> 03:07:00,100 And I'll say now. 7384 03:07:00,100 --> 03:07:02,040 It's Vladimir fucking Putin. 7385 03:07:02,140 --> 03:07:03,040 That's what it is. 7386 03:07:03,200 --> 03:07:04,440 I've realized. 7387 03:07:05,280 --> 03:07:06,680 That it is Vladimir fucking 7388 03:07:06,680 --> 03:07:07,500 Putin. 7389 03:07:07,740 --> 03:07:08,500 In disguise. 7390 03:07:08,860 --> 03:07:10,300 In 1999. 7391 03:07:12,020 --> 03:07:13,380 Holy shit. 7392 03:07:14,760 --> 03:07:15,440 I knew it. 7393 03:07:15,540 --> 03:07:16,940 I knew something wasn't right. 7394 03:07:17,020 --> 03:07:18,330 Something wasn't sitting right 7395 03:07:18,330 --> 03:07:19,300 with me at the time. 7396 03:07:21,340 --> 03:07:21,940 Moments. 7397 03:07:22,080 --> 03:07:22,420 Hours. 7398 03:07:22,580 --> 03:07:23,500 Days before. 7399 03:07:23,740 --> 03:07:25,300 Years before the attack. 7400 03:07:25,800 --> 03:07:26,580 In Ukraine. 7401 03:07:27,860 --> 03:07:28,880 He was there. 7402 03:07:28,980 --> 03:07:30,480 Eating fucking cheese. 7403 03:07:31,000 --> 03:07:32,320 And drinking wine. 7404 03:07:32,520 --> 03:07:34,530 And looking very suspicious 7405 03:07:34,530 --> 03:07:36,040 about it as well. 7406 03:07:36,340 --> 03:07:38,040 And the resemblance just gets 7407 03:07:38,040 --> 03:07:39,520 even more uncanny. 7408 03:07:39,620 --> 03:07:40,540 Keep that music going there 7409 03:07:40,540 --> 03:07:40,960 please. 7410 03:07:41,780 --> 03:07:44,010 That gets even more uncanny and 7411 03:07:44,010 --> 03:07:45,200 bizarre. 7412 03:07:46,860 --> 03:07:48,440 As the time goes on. 7413 03:07:48,440 --> 03:08:02,620 Georgie Pie. 7414 03:08:02,720 --> 03:08:03,600 Thank you very much. 7415 03:08:09,180 --> 03:08:09,980 I don't know. 7416 03:08:10,360 --> 03:08:11,360 I've got a bad. 7417 03:08:11,480 --> 03:08:12,080 Bad. 7418 03:08:12,900 --> 03:08:13,300 Feeling. 7419 03:08:14,060 --> 03:08:15,220 I've got a bad feeling about 7420 03:08:15,220 --> 03:08:16,120 this one. 7421 03:08:16,120 --> 03:08:19,640 And look. 7422 03:08:19,680 --> 03:08:20,200 He dips out. 7423 03:08:20,260 --> 03:08:21,600 He realizes he's on camera. 7424 03:08:21,680 --> 03:08:22,520 And he turns away. 7425 03:08:22,920 --> 03:08:24,080 And then these guys. 7426 03:08:24,860 --> 03:08:26,400 Fucking eyes wide shut. 7427 03:08:29,240 --> 03:08:30,940 Eyes wide shut all the way. 7428 03:08:30,980 --> 03:08:32,350 I don't know who that lad is 7429 03:08:32,350 --> 03:08:32,920 there. 7430 03:08:33,640 --> 03:08:34,480 Or herself. 7431 03:08:34,700 --> 03:08:37,140 They look like they're about to 7432 03:08:37,140 --> 03:08:39,600 attend some kind of ball. 7433 03:08:41,640 --> 03:08:42,160 Yeah. 7434 03:08:42,400 --> 03:08:44,140 Keep your eyes on the Donbass. 7435 03:08:44,140 --> 03:08:44,860 Red carpet. 7436 03:08:45,320 --> 03:08:46,380 An adoring press. 7437 03:08:46,800 --> 03:08:48,380 And weird outfits. 7438 03:08:48,620 --> 03:08:49,220 And we have. 7439 03:08:49,940 --> 03:08:50,700 Holy shit. 7440 03:08:54,800 --> 03:08:55,280 Yeah. 7441 03:08:55,360 --> 03:08:55,520 Yeah. 7442 03:08:55,560 --> 03:08:56,680 It's just there isn't it. 7443 03:08:56,960 --> 03:08:58,160 Where he clocked us. 7444 03:09:00,480 --> 03:09:02,040 And then the look away. 7445 03:09:02,140 --> 03:09:02,880 And the move on. 7446 03:09:06,780 --> 03:09:07,220 Evil. 7447 03:09:07,320 --> 03:09:07,980 Evil stuff. 7448 03:09:09,020 --> 03:09:10,340 At the Webby Awards. 7449 03:09:12,100 --> 03:09:13,960 But the real action of the Webby. 7450 03:09:14,200 --> 03:09:14,760 Oh God. 7451 03:09:14,760 --> 03:09:14,760 Oh God. 7452 03:09:14,860 --> 03:09:15,260 Look at this. 7453 03:09:15,680 --> 03:09:17,880 He's as at the Oscars is insane. 7454 03:09:18,580 --> 03:09:18,980 God. 7455 03:09:19,660 --> 03:09:20,550 I wonder if there's a sweat 7456 03:09:20,550 --> 03:09:22,140 patch underneath that. 7457 03:09:22,240 --> 03:09:22,880 You can't see. 7458 03:09:22,960 --> 03:09:26,000 It might be a Velcro shirt. 7459 03:09:26,160 --> 03:09:26,480 Or a. 7460 03:09:26,600 --> 03:09:27,860 I wouldn't say Velcro. 7461 03:09:27,980 --> 03:09:29,340 But it has that kind of matte 7462 03:09:29,340 --> 03:09:31,020 satiny sort of finish on it. 7463 03:09:31,480 --> 03:09:32,850 Where you can't really see if 7464 03:09:32,850 --> 03:09:34,540 he's got sweat patches. 7465 03:09:34,540 --> 03:09:35,900 Inside the auditorium. 7466 03:09:36,360 --> 03:09:36,740 And it's on. 7467 03:09:36,740 --> 03:09:37,440 What about the. 7468 03:09:37,800 --> 03:09:37,960 No. 7469 03:09:38,000 --> 03:09:38,380 We'll see it. 7470 03:09:38,420 --> 03:09:39,060 We'll see it in due course. 7471 03:09:39,060 --> 03:09:40,850 All about being recognized by 7472 03:09:40,850 --> 03:09:43,040 your peers for outstanding work. 7473 03:09:43,180 --> 03:09:43,430 This is going to be five 7474 03:09:43,430 --> 03:09:43,680 minutes. 7475 03:09:43,680 --> 03:09:45,200 The official Webby's mistress 7476 03:09:45,200 --> 03:09:45,900 of awards. 7477 03:09:45,900 --> 03:09:46,040 What score? 7478 03:09:46,340 --> 03:09:47,280 Webby's mistress. 7479 03:09:47,900 --> 03:09:49,260 The lovely Marina Berlin. 7480 03:09:49,620 --> 03:09:50,760 Marina Berlin. 7481 03:09:50,900 --> 03:09:52,520 Any relation to Violet Berlin. 7482 03:09:52,520 --> 03:09:54,530 Who was a tech correspondent on 7483 03:09:54,530 --> 03:09:55,820 video game show. 7484 03:09:56,380 --> 03:09:57,500 Bad influence. 7485 03:09:58,280 --> 03:10:00,040 And other stuff I think for 7486 03:10:00,040 --> 03:10:00,900 Bravo TV. 7487 03:10:01,680 --> 03:10:02,920 In the late 90s. 7488 03:10:03,220 --> 03:10:04,440 Early 90s as well. 7489 03:10:04,440 --> 03:10:06,480 And the emcee for the 1999 Webby 7490 03:10:06,480 --> 03:10:07,520 Awards ceremony. 7491 03:10:07,840 --> 03:10:09,240 Was comedian Mark Maron. 7492 03:10:09,360 --> 03:10:10,320 Who began by. 7493 03:10:10,640 --> 03:10:11,700 Mark Maron. 7494 03:10:12,200 --> 03:10:13,400 Is that Mark Maron? 7495 03:10:13,440 --> 03:10:14,340 The fucking podcast. 7496 03:10:14,480 --> 03:10:14,940 Mark Maron. 7497 03:10:15,140 --> 03:10:15,640 Look at this. 7498 03:10:15,960 --> 03:10:17,180 The transformation. 7499 03:10:18,060 --> 03:10:19,900 A maximum of five words. 7500 03:10:20,480 --> 03:10:20,930 Now I just want to make sure 7501 03:10:20,930 --> 03:10:21,540 that we're. 7502 03:10:21,900 --> 03:10:22,850 All on the same page here about 7503 03:10:22,850 --> 03:10:23,260 this. 7504 03:10:23,300 --> 03:10:23,740 It is. 7505 03:10:23,840 --> 03:10:25,280 Five word acceptance speech. 7506 03:10:26,340 --> 03:10:27,140 If anyone. 7507 03:10:27,440 --> 03:10:28,820 Look at how different he is. 7508 03:10:29,260 --> 03:10:30,320 I mean I know people will go. 7509 03:10:30,460 --> 03:10:31,720 Yeah people change man. 7510 03:10:31,800 --> 03:10:32,380 Get over it. 7511 03:10:32,460 --> 03:10:34,280 But people do fucking change. 7512 03:10:34,400 --> 03:10:35,400 I mean I think he has a beard. 7513 03:10:35,660 --> 03:10:36,220 Now you know. 7514 03:10:36,420 --> 03:10:37,480 Seeds the five words. 7515 03:10:37,560 --> 03:10:38,210 They will be promptly 7516 03:10:38,210 --> 03:10:39,160 disciplined by Marina. 7517 03:10:39,380 --> 03:10:40,480 And what's going on here? 7518 03:10:49,220 --> 03:10:50,580 It's a great situation. 7519 03:10:51,380 --> 03:10:52,320 The five words. 7520 03:10:52,380 --> 03:10:53,120 They will be promptly 7521 03:10:53,120 --> 03:10:54,060 disciplined by Marina. 7522 03:10:55,880 --> 03:10:57,070 I know to some that will be an 7523 03:10:57,070 --> 03:10:57,780 incentive. 7524 03:11:00,300 --> 03:11:02,620 So try to behave yourselves. 7525 03:11:03,420 --> 03:11:03,780 Let me give you a couple 7526 03:11:03,780 --> 03:11:05,210 examples of what five words 7527 03:11:05,210 --> 03:11:06,080 sounds like. 7528 03:11:06,140 --> 03:11:06,720 Because I'm sure you haven't 7529 03:11:06,720 --> 03:11:07,460 really thought it through. 7530 03:11:07,600 --> 03:11:07,720 Okay. 7531 03:11:07,760 --> 03:11:08,380 Like for example. 7532 03:11:08,740 --> 03:11:09,980 Like you come up and you go. 7533 03:11:10,360 --> 03:11:10,900 Oh there's so many. 7534 03:11:10,980 --> 03:11:14,480 It's a real late 90s air cell. 7535 03:11:14,820 --> 03:11:15,360 Or did you. 7536 03:11:15,440 --> 03:11:16,720 Is that digiphone. 7537 03:11:17,720 --> 03:11:18,560 Republica. 7538 03:11:18,780 --> 03:11:21,140 Baby I'm ready to go. 7539 03:11:21,560 --> 03:11:22,420 I'm back. 7540 03:11:22,560 --> 03:11:23,720 I'm ready to go. 7541 03:11:23,780 --> 03:11:25,230 Remember in that video she was 7542 03:11:25,230 --> 03:11:26,780 wearing all that weird shit. 7543 03:11:27,440 --> 03:11:28,370 This was the big thing around 7544 03:11:28,370 --> 03:11:29,920 99, 2000. 7545 03:11:30,080 --> 03:11:31,060 The dot com bubble. 7546 03:11:31,720 --> 03:11:32,800 This stuff. 7547 03:11:33,460 --> 03:11:34,180 How many people. 7548 03:11:34,340 --> 03:11:35,000 Nah you're done. 7549 03:11:36,740 --> 03:11:36,960 Alright. 7550 03:11:37,500 --> 03:11:37,940 Air cell. 7551 03:11:38,020 --> 03:11:38,580 It was air cell. 7552 03:11:38,680 --> 03:11:39,280 Oh eight seven. 7553 03:11:39,440 --> 03:11:40,060 Ten euro. 7554 03:11:40,200 --> 03:11:40,920 Ten pound. 7555 03:11:41,180 --> 03:11:41,640 Top up. 7556 03:11:42,920 --> 03:11:43,140 Or. 7557 03:11:43,300 --> 03:11:44,780 Baby I'm ready to go. 7558 03:11:44,860 --> 03:11:45,580 Here's another example. 7559 03:11:45,720 --> 03:11:46,860 God where do I start. 7560 03:11:47,040 --> 03:11:47,460 You ended. 7561 03:11:47,620 --> 03:11:49,320 Maybe even air cell sponsored. 7562 03:11:50,140 --> 03:11:53,740 The Jordan formula one team. 7563 03:11:54,020 --> 03:11:56,960 I might be guessing wrong there. 7564 03:11:57,140 --> 03:11:57,360 That's it. 7565 03:11:57,640 --> 03:11:57,840 Alright. 7566 03:11:58,660 --> 03:12:00,340 Or I really can't believe. 7567 03:12:00,600 --> 03:12:01,500 See that's only four. 7568 03:12:01,680 --> 03:12:02,440 And if it's only one thing you 7569 03:12:02,440 --> 03:12:03,060 can't believe. 7570 03:12:03,200 --> 03:12:03,760 That's perfect. 7571 03:12:06,320 --> 03:12:07,200 Space boy. 7572 03:12:08,060 --> 03:12:09,440 The omega boys. 7573 03:12:12,160 --> 03:12:12,720 Oh. 7574 03:12:12,920 --> 03:12:13,440 Here we go. 7575 03:12:13,480 --> 03:12:13,780 You ready? 7576 03:12:14,560 --> 03:12:16,180 Our first category is arts. 7577 03:12:16,560 --> 03:12:17,990 Does she speak or does she just 7578 03:12:17,990 --> 03:12:18,620 emote? 7579 03:12:18,760 --> 03:12:19,810 Because there were some 7580 03:12:19,810 --> 03:12:20,780 fantastic emotes. 7581 03:12:21,360 --> 03:12:22,540 That she was doing there. 7582 03:12:28,240 --> 03:12:28,840 Oh. 7583 03:12:29,080 --> 03:12:29,600 Here we go. 7584 03:12:29,660 --> 03:12:29,940 You ready? 7585 03:12:30,720 --> 03:12:32,340 Our first category is arts. 7586 03:12:33,660 --> 03:12:34,600 And now. 7587 03:12:35,100 --> 03:12:36,120 The nominees. 7588 03:12:36,660 --> 03:12:37,080 For arts. 7589 03:12:37,300 --> 03:12:37,640 Are. 7590 03:12:46,120 --> 03:12:47,480 Doors of perception. 7591 03:12:48,080 --> 03:12:49,180 Open them wide open. 7592 03:12:49,840 --> 03:12:50,730 Give it up for your friends 7593 03:12:50,730 --> 03:12:51,400 people. 7594 03:12:54,560 --> 03:12:55,760 Jody.org. 7595 03:12:56,100 --> 03:12:56,520 Jody. 7596 03:13:00,920 --> 03:13:02,200 Jody.org. 7597 03:13:02,380 --> 03:13:02,760 Again. 7598 03:13:02,860 --> 03:13:03,840 It's risky isn't it? 7599 03:13:03,900 --> 03:13:04,700 We're on stream. 7600 03:13:05,420 --> 03:13:07,000 I went to Jody.org. 7601 03:13:14,000 --> 03:13:15,260 I'm just going to get ready to 7602 03:13:15,260 --> 03:13:16,160 close very quickly. 7603 03:13:22,940 --> 03:13:23,340 Wow. 7604 03:13:24,340 --> 03:13:25,400 It's exactly what I was hoping 7605 03:13:25,400 --> 03:13:26,440 it would be. 7606 03:13:28,440 --> 03:13:29,620 Human versus human. 7607 03:13:29,760 --> 03:13:30,980 Computer versus computer. 7608 03:13:31,220 --> 03:13:32,120 AI versus AI. 7609 03:13:32,280 --> 03:13:33,700 Chicken versus computer. 7610 03:13:34,480 --> 03:13:35,440 Dare I click one of these 7611 03:13:35,440 --> 03:13:36,820 fucking links? 7612 03:13:38,320 --> 03:13:39,590 I'm going to go for computer 7613 03:13:39,590 --> 03:13:40,580 versus computer. 7614 03:13:40,580 --> 03:13:41,770 Because you don't know what you're 7615 03:13:41,770 --> 03:13:42,700 going to see if you click on 7616 03:13:42,700 --> 03:13:43,480 human or chicken. 7617 03:13:46,000 --> 03:13:47,540 And again I'm going to have. 7618 03:13:48,220 --> 03:13:48,700 The. 7619 03:13:49,160 --> 03:13:49,620 The. 7620 03:13:49,700 --> 03:13:51,840 The shortcut for close window. 7621 03:13:54,000 --> 03:13:55,060 Ready to go. 7622 03:13:56,140 --> 03:13:57,440 Ready to go. 7623 03:13:57,440 --> 03:13:57,760 Oh. 7624 03:14:00,340 --> 03:14:01,440 What's a game look. 7625 03:14:03,000 --> 03:14:03,780 You're watching. 7626 03:14:04,280 --> 03:14:05,260 X's and O's. 7627 03:14:05,380 --> 03:14:06,320 Played by a computer. 7628 03:14:08,480 --> 03:14:09,240 What about. 7629 03:14:09,580 --> 03:14:10,920 Human versus computer. 7630 03:14:11,080 --> 03:14:12,320 Will I be involved in that? 7631 03:14:15,820 --> 03:14:16,420 Sorry there. 7632 03:14:17,560 --> 03:14:18,760 Well then I'll go here. 7633 03:14:21,400 --> 03:14:22,000 Sorry there. 7634 03:14:22,060 --> 03:14:22,920 That's very loud. 7635 03:14:24,740 --> 03:14:25,990 I'm not going to continue with 7636 03:14:25,990 --> 03:14:26,360 this. 7637 03:14:26,680 --> 03:14:27,660 I would like to see if I win 7638 03:14:27,660 --> 03:14:28,260 though. 7639 03:14:30,200 --> 03:14:30,810 Would like to see if I win this 7640 03:14:30,810 --> 03:14:32,800 game of X's and O's. 7641 03:14:39,060 --> 03:14:40,320 Oh I got beat. 7642 03:14:41,200 --> 03:14:41,680 Fuck it. 7643 03:14:42,360 --> 03:14:43,500 Erase that from your mind. 7644 03:14:43,580 --> 03:14:44,360 That never happened. 7645 03:14:45,980 --> 03:14:46,420 Bollocks. 7646 03:14:49,940 --> 03:14:50,800 Park bench. 7647 03:14:51,460 --> 03:14:52,400 Park bench. 7648 03:14:52,400 --> 03:14:59,820 We're going to be playing. 7649 03:15:01,100 --> 03:15:02,440 We're going to be playing. 7650 03:15:04,080 --> 03:15:05,340 More X's and O's. 7651 03:15:05,420 --> 03:15:06,140 Going to do a fucking. 7652 03:15:07,160 --> 03:15:09,560 Seven hour X's and O's stream. 7653 03:15:10,840 --> 03:15:11,940 One of the days. 7654 03:15:12,780 --> 03:15:13,000 So. 7655 03:15:14,000 --> 03:15:15,040 Stay tuned for that. 7656 03:15:15,120 --> 03:15:16,100 It's going to be fucking epic. 7657 03:15:16,560 --> 03:15:17,550 Sorry about the ears getting 7658 03:15:17,550 --> 03:15:19,000 blasted off there by the. 7659 03:15:20,280 --> 03:15:22,580 The multicultural recycler look. 7660 03:15:23,180 --> 03:15:23,920 It's like something. 7661 03:15:24,880 --> 03:15:26,060 One of those restaurants. 7662 03:15:26,200 --> 03:15:26,580 The Connor. 7663 03:15:26,900 --> 03:15:27,900 Will be going on about. 7664 03:15:30,660 --> 03:15:33,020 The multicultural recycler. 7665 03:15:34,560 --> 03:15:35,040 Recycler. 7666 03:15:35,940 --> 03:15:38,120 The multicultural recycler. 7667 03:15:39,580 --> 03:15:39,980 Recycler. 7668 03:15:40,820 --> 03:15:42,240 He's added a U between the C 7669 03:15:42,240 --> 03:15:43,960 and L on that one. 7670 03:15:44,900 --> 03:15:46,740 Gives it just an extra bit of 7671 03:15:46,740 --> 03:15:48,320 va va voom at the end. 7672 03:15:50,860 --> 03:15:53,280 The multicultural recycler. 7673 03:15:54,960 --> 03:15:55,480 Recycler. 7674 03:15:57,080 --> 03:15:57,600 Recycler. 7675 03:15:57,680 --> 03:15:58,160 It has it. 7676 03:15:58,220 --> 03:15:59,040 It feels nice. 7677 03:15:59,100 --> 03:16:00,460 Like it feels nice to say. 7678 03:16:01,500 --> 03:16:01,980 Recycler. 7679 03:16:02,640 --> 03:16:03,260 We did you have. 7680 03:16:03,380 --> 03:16:04,740 Did you go to the multicultural 7681 03:16:04,740 --> 03:16:05,400 recycler? 7682 03:16:05,720 --> 03:16:06,660 No, but I was at the 7683 03:16:06,660 --> 03:16:08,140 multicultural recycler. 7684 03:16:08,560 --> 03:16:09,780 And it was nice. 7685 03:16:13,780 --> 03:16:14,420 Recycler. 7686 03:16:20,080 --> 03:16:22,260 Last will and testament. 7687 03:16:23,960 --> 03:16:24,360 What's that? 7688 03:16:26,040 --> 03:16:27,660 Teleportatia.org. 7689 03:16:29,000 --> 03:16:30,760 Last will and testament. 7690 03:16:31,220 --> 03:16:32,020 Teleportatia. 7691 03:16:34,480 --> 03:16:35,280 Teleportatia. 7692 03:16:38,540 --> 03:16:39,860 Dot org. 7693 03:16:42,640 --> 03:16:43,320 Teleportatia. 7694 03:16:43,320 --> 03:16:44,320 Teleportatia. 7695 03:16:49,680 --> 03:16:50,360 Nope. 7696 03:17:00,700 --> 03:17:00,990 Trying to put it into the 7697 03:17:00,990 --> 03:17:03,320 fucking sidebar. 7698 03:17:05,240 --> 03:17:05,840 No. 7699 03:17:08,120 --> 03:17:09,160 It's not working. 7700 03:17:09,260 --> 03:17:09,640 It's gone. 7701 03:17:10,280 --> 03:17:11,740 We still got bud.com open as 7702 03:17:11,740 --> 03:17:12,360 well. 7703 03:17:12,360 --> 03:17:16,170 And the winner of the 1999 Webby 7704 03:17:16,170 --> 03:17:18,800 Award for Arts is... 7705 03:17:18,800 --> 03:17:19,400 Survey says... 7706 03:17:21,080 --> 03:17:22,400 Jody.org. 7707 03:17:22,480 --> 03:17:23,100 Eh eh. 7708 03:17:24,060 --> 03:17:25,820 That's the X's and O's site. 7709 03:17:26,400 --> 03:17:27,640 Come on down. 7710 03:17:28,020 --> 03:17:29,380 Pick up your award. 7711 03:17:30,080 --> 03:17:30,700 There they are. 7712 03:17:30,960 --> 03:17:32,520 No colors anymore. 7713 03:17:32,520 --> 03:17:35,040 I want them to turn left. 7714 03:17:35,040 --> 03:17:35,500 Oof. 7715 03:17:35,820 --> 03:17:36,780 I thought he was going to punch 7716 03:17:36,780 --> 03:17:37,900 my fucking lights out. 7717 03:17:37,980 --> 03:17:39,300 Even before he did that. 7718 03:17:39,560 --> 03:17:40,880 See the way he was winding up. 7719 03:17:41,400 --> 03:17:42,040 There they are. 7720 03:17:42,180 --> 03:17:43,240 No colors anymore. 7721 03:17:43,240 --> 03:17:43,620 Watch this. 7722 03:17:44,420 --> 03:17:44,740 See. 7723 03:17:44,880 --> 03:17:45,820 See the fucking... 7724 03:17:45,820 --> 03:17:46,740 The cut of him. 7725 03:17:46,840 --> 03:17:47,220 Like look. 7726 03:17:47,940 --> 03:17:48,970 Imagine him coming towards you 7727 03:17:48,970 --> 03:17:50,280 in a fucking... 7728 03:17:50,280 --> 03:17:51,440 A pub or a club. 7729 03:17:51,440 --> 03:17:52,100 And then look. 7730 03:17:52,300 --> 03:17:52,500 Look. 7731 03:17:57,600 --> 03:17:58,040 Oh! 7732 03:17:58,160 --> 03:17:58,960 Like he's gonna... 7733 03:17:58,960 --> 03:17:59,520 He's gonna... 7734 03:17:59,520 --> 03:18:00,120 He's... 7735 03:18:00,120 --> 03:18:01,280 You're seeing that hand. 7736 03:18:01,400 --> 03:18:02,190 And then he's gonna fucking 7737 03:18:02,190 --> 03:18:03,040 come in with the right. 7738 03:18:03,740 --> 03:18:04,700 He's putting that there. 7739 03:18:04,780 --> 03:18:05,840 And then he's gonna fucking jab 7740 03:18:05,840 --> 03:18:06,500 you with that. 7741 03:18:06,700 --> 03:18:07,120 It's like... 7742 03:18:07,120 --> 03:18:07,240 Whoa. 7743 03:18:07,280 --> 03:18:07,820 Look at that. 7744 03:18:08,500 --> 03:18:09,510 Have I got your attention with 7745 03:18:09,510 --> 03:18:10,000 that? 7746 03:18:10,040 --> 03:18:11,020 And then follow up. 7747 03:18:11,260 --> 03:18:12,200 Right to the chops. 7748 03:18:13,980 --> 03:18:15,180 And who's that fucker? 7749 03:18:15,440 --> 03:18:16,140 In the tux. 7750 03:18:16,820 --> 03:18:18,440 It's like he's seen this before. 7751 03:18:18,560 --> 03:18:19,320 He's out of order. 7752 03:18:19,440 --> 03:18:20,360 He's had too much. 7753 03:18:20,780 --> 03:18:22,000 This fella's had too much to 7754 03:18:22,000 --> 03:18:22,620 drink. 7755 03:18:23,580 --> 03:18:25,030 And he's about to fucking Webby 7756 03:18:25,030 --> 03:18:26,060 award you. 7757 03:18:27,160 --> 03:18:28,440 And that's called the web. 7758 03:18:29,080 --> 03:18:29,800 That move. 7759 03:18:30,380 --> 03:18:31,250 They get you with the spider 7760 03:18:31,250 --> 03:18:31,640 web. 7761 03:18:31,780 --> 03:18:32,840 And then he follows up. 7762 03:18:33,140 --> 03:18:34,680 With a straight right to the 7763 03:18:34,680 --> 03:18:35,360 chops. 7764 03:18:37,660 --> 03:18:39,420 Just to think we were playing... 7765 03:18:39,420 --> 03:18:40,800 X's and O's there. 7766 03:18:40,940 --> 03:18:42,270 On a website that this man 7767 03:18:42,270 --> 03:18:42,860 built. 7768 03:18:43,960 --> 03:18:44,200 Do you know? 7769 03:18:44,280 --> 03:18:44,920 I got... 7770 03:18:44,920 --> 03:18:46,660 I got owned... 7771 03:18:46,660 --> 03:18:48,860 By his website... 7772 03:18:48,860 --> 03:18:49,920 In 2025. 7773 03:18:50,740 --> 03:18:51,920 And now it's 1999. 7774 03:18:52,980 --> 03:18:53,480 In this. 7775 03:18:54,260 --> 03:18:55,100 And he's about to punch your 7776 03:18:55,100 --> 03:18:56,260 fucking lights out. 7777 03:18:57,000 --> 03:18:57,580 There they are. 7778 03:19:01,580 --> 03:19:01,940 Smack! 7779 03:19:03,940 --> 03:19:04,340 Whoa. 7780 03:19:04,400 --> 03:19:04,860 Look at this. 7781 03:19:05,280 --> 03:19:05,820 Look at this. 7782 03:19:07,280 --> 03:19:07,840 Look at that. 7783 03:19:07,840 --> 03:19:08,280 What? 7784 03:19:09,180 --> 03:19:10,080 It was real. 7785 03:19:10,560 --> 03:19:11,240 It was real. 7786 03:19:11,240 --> 03:19:11,240 It was real. 7787 03:19:14,040 --> 03:19:15,140 What a wanker. 7788 03:19:15,380 --> 03:19:16,780 What a fucking wanker. 7789 03:19:20,000 --> 03:19:21,400 What a fucking arsehole. 7790 03:19:22,700 --> 03:19:23,260 They're kicking off there on 7791 03:19:23,260 --> 03:19:24,500 the cameraman. 7792 03:19:25,160 --> 03:19:26,480 And he gets his jacket. 7793 03:19:26,620 --> 03:19:27,240 His stupid 90s... 7794 03:19:28,240 --> 03:19:29,700 Backstreet Boys jacket. 7795 03:19:30,060 --> 03:19:30,900 Gets ripped off. 7796 03:19:30,960 --> 03:19:31,100 Watch. 7797 03:19:32,020 --> 03:19:32,700 Look at this. 7798 03:19:32,800 --> 03:19:33,690 Your man's having to pull him 7799 03:19:33,690 --> 03:19:34,040 away. 7800 03:19:34,720 --> 03:19:35,680 Don't give him... 7801 03:19:35,680 --> 03:19:36,080 He's not... 7802 03:19:36,080 --> 03:19:36,970 He shouldn't even have a 7803 03:19:36,970 --> 03:19:37,660 fucking award. 7804 03:19:39,620 --> 03:19:40,520 That's not right. 7805 03:19:41,500 --> 03:19:42,060 This poor... 7806 03:19:42,060 --> 03:19:43,500 This guy's just doing his job. 7807 03:19:44,620 --> 03:19:45,900 He's old enough to know better 7808 03:19:45,900 --> 03:19:47,480 as well as... 7809 03:19:47,480 --> 03:19:48,440 A few... 7810 03:19:48,440 --> 03:19:49,810 A smattering of grey in the 7811 03:19:49,810 --> 03:19:50,300 hair. 7812 03:19:51,740 --> 03:19:52,590 Maybe he was off his fucking 7813 03:19:52,590 --> 03:19:53,420 chops. 7814 03:19:54,500 --> 03:19:56,260 You can tell he's off his chops. 7815 03:19:56,340 --> 03:19:56,520 Look. 7816 03:19:58,360 --> 03:19:58,800 Chopstick. 7817 03:19:58,800 --> 03:20:02,840 Should have known... 7818 03:20:02,840 --> 03:20:03,480 Camera should... 7819 03:20:03,480 --> 03:20:05,140 If I was on camera... 7820 03:20:05,140 --> 03:20:06,160 And that was happening... 7821 03:20:06,160 --> 03:20:06,900 He was coming towards me... 7822 03:20:06,900 --> 03:20:08,180 I would have known... 7823 03:20:08,180 --> 03:20:09,140 Maybe just back away from this 7824 03:20:09,140 --> 03:20:09,600 con... 7825 03:20:09,600 --> 03:20:09,860 He's... 7826 03:20:09,860 --> 03:20:11,080 He's fucking dodgy. 7827 03:20:13,160 --> 03:20:14,320 And is that his wife? 7828 03:20:20,580 --> 03:20:21,320 Look at this. 7829 03:20:22,080 --> 03:20:22,580 I... 7830 03:20:22,580 --> 03:20:23,340 Didn't I tell you? 7831 03:20:23,400 --> 03:20:25,200 I thought that was a joke first... 7832 03:20:25,200 --> 03:20:26,100 Before we'd seen one... 7833 03:20:26,100 --> 03:20:26,840 And it happened afterwards. 7834 03:20:26,840 --> 03:20:29,200 And I could sense... 7835 03:20:29,200 --> 03:20:31,420 When I saw Tuxedo Tom... 7836 03:20:31,420 --> 03:20:32,120 Over here... 7837 03:20:32,120 --> 03:20:34,320 With that look... 7838 03:20:34,320 --> 03:20:36,000 He knew that this was... 7839 03:20:36,000 --> 03:20:36,860 Gonna kick off. 7840 03:20:40,980 --> 03:20:41,380 Boom. 7841 03:20:44,340 --> 03:20:45,120 Look at that. 7842 03:20:45,420 --> 03:20:45,960 The camera... 7843 03:20:45,960 --> 03:20:46,940 In fairness to the camera... 7844 03:20:46,940 --> 03:20:48,160 He does well to try and... 7845 03:20:48,160 --> 03:20:48,820 Hop away from him... 7846 03:20:48,820 --> 03:20:49,980 Because that's a heavy bit of 7847 03:20:49,980 --> 03:20:50,260 kit. 7848 03:20:53,840 --> 03:20:55,700 And his wife... 7849 03:20:55,700 --> 03:20:56,700 Takes the jacket off him... 7850 03:20:56,700 --> 03:20:59,020 I see the girl... 7851 03:20:59,020 --> 03:21:00,040 Tries to pull him... 7852 03:21:00,040 --> 03:21:01,420 Away from the camera man... 7853 03:21:01,420 --> 03:21:01,660 And it... 7854 03:21:01,660 --> 03:21:01,860 Boom. 7855 03:21:12,260 --> 03:21:14,660 Mark Maron... 7856 03:21:14,660 --> 03:21:15,640 Look just clapping... 7857 03:21:15,640 --> 03:21:16,500 He can't do anything... 7858 03:21:16,500 --> 03:21:17,220 He's stuck. 7859 03:21:18,780 --> 03:21:20,120 Mark Maron's laughing... 7860 03:21:20,120 --> 03:21:26,200 Wow. 7861 03:21:26,760 --> 03:21:28,020 What a fucking idiot. 7862 03:21:31,420 --> 03:21:31,940 That... 7863 03:21:31,940 --> 03:21:32,700 He should have fucking... 7864 03:21:32,700 --> 03:21:33,340 Chinned him then. 7865 03:21:34,100 --> 03:21:34,500 But I mean... 7866 03:21:34,500 --> 03:21:35,380 He's a professional... 7867 03:21:35,380 --> 03:21:36,280 He's just gonna keep his... 7868 03:21:36,280 --> 03:21:37,660 It's the beginning of the night... 7869 03:21:37,660 --> 03:21:38,860 Like he's still got a load more... 7870 03:21:38,860 --> 03:21:39,760 Wankers to get through. 7871 03:21:42,700 --> 03:21:44,240 He can't believe it. 7872 03:21:44,360 --> 03:21:46,020 Sorry for labouring this one... 7873 03:21:46,020 --> 03:21:46,640 But the... 7874 03:21:46,640 --> 03:21:48,140 The cameraman goes like this... 7875 03:21:49,280 --> 03:21:49,800 As if... 7876 03:21:49,800 --> 03:21:51,160 Did you see that? 7877 03:21:56,220 --> 03:21:57,380 Look at this fella... 7878 03:21:57,380 --> 03:21:58,780 Look at the cameraman here... 7879 03:21:58,780 --> 03:21:59,820 Look back... 7880 03:21:59,820 --> 03:22:00,920 Look... 7881 03:22:00,920 --> 03:22:01,810 He does a quick look around to 7882 03:22:01,810 --> 03:22:02,520 his mates... 7883 03:22:02,520 --> 03:22:03,480 To say what's going on? 7884 03:22:06,700 --> 03:22:07,920 She keeps dancing... 7885 03:22:07,920 --> 03:22:08,300 He's... 7886 03:22:08,300 --> 03:22:08,600 Look... 7887 03:22:08,600 --> 03:22:10,340 Mark Maron's obviously gone... 7888 03:22:10,340 --> 03:22:11,580 This guy's bad news... 7889 03:22:11,580 --> 03:22:13,340 I'm gonna back off... 7890 03:22:13,340 --> 03:22:14,670 She still gives him the fucking 7891 03:22:14,670 --> 03:22:15,500 stupid... 7892 03:22:15,500 --> 03:22:16,340 Spring trophy though... 7893 03:22:17,900 --> 03:22:18,470 Has she not just seen what's 7894 03:22:18,470 --> 03:22:20,040 happened there? 7895 03:22:25,040 --> 03:22:26,560 Ugly commercial... 7896 03:22:26,560 --> 03:22:27,340 Son of... 7897 03:22:27,340 --> 03:22:28,340 Yes... 7898 03:22:28,340 --> 03:22:30,340 That's the spirit... 7899 03:22:30,340 --> 03:22:32,560 God bless the... 7900 03:22:32,560 --> 03:22:33,060 Still... 7901 03:22:33,060 --> 03:22:34,340 He turned up to the award... 7902 03:22:34,340 --> 03:22:36,340 And took the award... 7903 03:22:36,340 --> 03:22:37,740 You know... 7904 03:22:37,740 --> 03:22:38,880 And paid... 7905 03:22:38,880 --> 03:22:40,820 Paid to be in the awards... 7906 03:22:40,820 --> 03:22:41,980 And then did that... 7907 03:22:41,980 --> 03:22:43,980 The Rebels... 7908 03:22:43,980 --> 03:22:45,380 The next category is... 7909 03:22:45,380 --> 03:22:46,740 We need to find out more about 7910 03:22:46,740 --> 03:22:47,700 that guy... 7911 03:22:47,700 --> 03:22:48,660 And what that website... 7912 03:22:48,660 --> 03:22:49,560 I can't believe I've just 7913 03:22:49,560 --> 03:22:50,620 played his stupid... 7914 03:22:50,620 --> 03:22:51,940 X's and O's games... 7915 03:22:51,940 --> 03:22:53,240 And I'm even more sickened than 7916 03:22:53,240 --> 03:22:54,140 I got beat... 7917 03:22:54,140 --> 03:22:54,780 At Commerce... 7918 03:22:54,780 --> 03:22:56,200 And before... 7919 03:22:56,200 --> 03:22:56,920 Well I'd like to say a few 7920 03:22:56,920 --> 03:22:57,540 things... 7921 03:22:57,540 --> 03:22:58,400 Before we get into the Commerce 7922 03:22:58,400 --> 03:22:59,020 category... 7923 03:22:59,020 --> 03:22:59,710 I'd like to sort of send a 7924 03:22:59,710 --> 03:23:00,380 shout out... 7925 03:23:00,380 --> 03:23:01,420 To the people at eBay... 7926 03:23:01,420 --> 03:23:02,220 Because... 7927 03:23:02,220 --> 03:23:03,450 There is no reason to throw 7928 03:23:03,450 --> 03:23:04,660 anything away... 7929 03:23:04,660 --> 03:23:05,300 Ever... 7930 03:23:05,300 --> 03:23:05,980 Anymore... 7931 03:23:05,980 --> 03:23:08,730 You just put a picture of it up 7932 03:23:08,730 --> 03:23:10,520 on eBay... 7933 03:23:10,520 --> 03:23:11,340 And within days... 7934 03:23:11,340 --> 03:23:12,460 You can just box it up... 7935 03:23:12,460 --> 03:23:13,080 Send it off... 7936 03:23:13,080 --> 03:23:14,140 And deposit that check... 7937 03:23:14,140 --> 03:23:15,680 I'm glad that Marin is doing 7938 03:23:15,680 --> 03:23:17,380 the entire awards... 7939 03:23:17,380 --> 03:23:18,800 Because the other hosts... 7940 03:23:18,800 --> 03:23:19,760 The last time were... 7941 03:23:19,760 --> 03:23:21,040 Charmless... 7942 03:23:21,040 --> 03:23:21,600 You know... 7943 03:23:21,600 --> 03:23:22,220 Or charisma... 7944 03:23:22,220 --> 03:23:23,800 They didn't have any jokes... 7945 03:23:23,800 --> 03:23:24,780 And if he did... 7946 03:23:24,780 --> 03:23:25,660 They didn't land... 7947 03:23:25,660 --> 03:23:26,980 I was actually able to unload... 7948 03:23:26,980 --> 03:23:27,760 Two vintage... 7949 03:23:27,760 --> 03:23:28,260 Unworn... 7950 03:23:28,260 --> 03:23:29,340 Unwith stupid t-shirts... 7951 03:23:29,340 --> 03:23:30,970 To a collector in Kalamazoo, 7952 03:23:30,970 --> 03:23:32,140 Michigan... 7953 03:23:32,140 --> 03:23:34,340 In exchange for $25... 7954 03:23:34,340 --> 03:23:35,020 In a pet rock... 7955 03:23:35,020 --> 03:23:35,920 That was still in its original 7956 03:23:35,920 --> 03:23:36,600 packaging... 7957 03:23:36,600 --> 03:23:37,380 And that's... 7958 03:23:37,380 --> 03:23:38,060 America... 7959 03:23:38,060 --> 03:23:40,460 Solid... 7960 03:23:40,460 --> 03:23:41,330 And now the nominees for 7961 03:23:41,330 --> 03:23:42,260 Commerce are... 7962 03:23:42,260 --> 03:23:43,020 Solid stuff... 7963 03:23:43,020 --> 03:23:55,560 Amazon.com... 7964 03:23:55,560 --> 03:23:57,560 We all know about them... 7965 03:23:57,560 --> 03:23:58,060 Don't we? 7966 03:23:58,060 --> 03:24:03,560 CD now... 7967 03:24:03,560 --> 03:24:12,600 eBay... 7968 03:24:12,600 --> 03:24:20,300 Gap Online... 7969 03:24:20,300 --> 03:24:26,080 And of course... 7970 03:24:26,080 --> 03:24:27,200 The Tire Rack... 7971 03:24:27,200 --> 03:24:33,200 Big support... 7972 03:24:33,200 --> 03:24:35,640 Support for Tire Rack there... 7973 03:24:35,640 --> 03:24:35,980 Uh... 7974 03:24:35,980 --> 03:24:36,440 Giebe... 7975 03:24:36,440 --> 03:24:37,460 Thank you very much... 7976 03:24:37,460 --> 03:24:38,620 And... 7977 03:24:38,620 --> 03:24:39,600 The winner of the... 7978 03:24:39,600 --> 03:24:40,940 1999 Webby Award... 7979 03:24:40,940 --> 03:24:43,280 For Commerce... 7980 03:24:43,280 --> 03:24:44,920 Amazon.com... 7981 03:24:44,920 --> 03:24:46,560 I think the thing... 7982 03:24:46,560 --> 03:24:47,580 That's different about Amazon... 7983 03:24:47,580 --> 03:24:48,800 Is the way the technology... 7984 03:24:48,800 --> 03:24:49,820 Is kind of invisible... 7985 03:24:49,820 --> 03:24:50,620 At the website... 7986 03:24:50,620 --> 03:24:50,860 You know... 7987 03:24:50,860 --> 03:24:52,240 It's just so easy... 7988 03:24:52,240 --> 03:24:53,440 To discover the products... 7989 03:24:53,440 --> 03:24:54,540 That you want to buy... 7990 03:24:54,540 --> 03:24:55,760 And to actually go through... 7991 03:24:55,760 --> 03:24:56,540 And buy them... 7992 03:24:56,540 --> 03:24:57,200 It's just the whole... 7993 03:24:57,200 --> 03:24:58,220 Customer experience... 7994 03:24:58,220 --> 03:24:58,740 Is just... 7995 03:24:58,740 --> 03:25:00,140 Second to none... 7996 03:25:00,140 --> 03:25:02,840 I just want to hear that again... 7997 03:25:02,840 --> 03:25:04,100 Georgie Pie said... 7998 03:25:04,100 --> 03:25:05,280 You missed Jane... 7999 03:25:05,280 --> 03:25:07,360 Walking on the red carpet... 8000 03:25:07,360 --> 03:25:08,220 In the beginning... 8001 03:25:08,220 --> 03:25:09,180 The blazing locks... 8002 03:25:09,180 --> 03:25:10,280 Are unmistakable... 8003 03:25:10,860 --> 03:25:12,160 Did I really miss Jane... 8004 03:25:12,160 --> 03:25:13,240 Nobody else... 8005 03:25:13,240 --> 03:25:14,120 Did anybody else... 8006 03:25:14,120 --> 03:25:14,780 Spot that... 8007 03:25:14,780 --> 03:25:15,400 On the intro... 8008 03:25:15,400 --> 03:25:16,340 When we saw Putin... 8009 03:25:16,340 --> 03:25:16,940 Earlier on... 8010 03:25:16,940 --> 03:25:18,280 Was Jane there... 8011 03:25:18,280 --> 03:25:20,300 It's just so easy... 8012 03:25:20,300 --> 03:25:21,560 To discover the products... 8013 03:25:21,560 --> 03:25:22,620 That you want to buy... 8014 03:25:22,620 --> 03:25:23,900 And then to actually go through... 8015 03:25:23,900 --> 03:25:24,720 And buy them... 8016 03:25:24,720 --> 03:25:25,420 It's just the whole... 8017 03:25:25,420 --> 03:25:26,360 Customer experience... 8018 03:25:26,360 --> 03:25:27,100 Is just... 8019 03:25:27,100 --> 03:25:29,680 This is $7.55... 8020 03:25:29,680 --> 03:25:32,160 For our return leg... 8021 03:25:32,160 --> 03:25:32,460 Uh... 8022 03:25:32,460 --> 03:25:33,700 Jane is somewhere... 8023 03:25:33,700 --> 03:25:34,900 Unmistakable... 8024 03:25:34,900 --> 03:25:35,600 Red locks... 8025 03:25:35,600 --> 03:25:36,260 Was that her there? 8026 03:25:36,340 --> 03:25:36,720 Look... 8027 03:25:36,720 --> 03:25:37,800 That's not her... 8028 03:25:37,800 --> 03:25:40,100 That's not her... 8029 03:25:40,100 --> 03:25:41,340 That wasn't... 8030 03:25:41,340 --> 03:25:43,700 That's not her in the bowl... 8031 03:25:43,700 --> 03:25:44,920 Are you fucking mad? 8032 03:25:44,920 --> 03:25:45,720 Let's go right now... 8033 03:25:45,720 --> 03:25:46,760 For the 1999... 8034 03:25:46,760 --> 03:25:52,020 That's not her... 8035 03:25:52,020 --> 03:25:53,140 Different face... 8036 03:25:53,140 --> 03:25:53,760 And everything... 8037 03:25:56,340 --> 03:25:57,300 Unless there was... 8038 03:25:57,300 --> 03:25:58,300 Another Jane there... 8039 03:25:58,300 --> 03:25:58,420 No? 8040 03:26:00,420 --> 03:26:01,560 I can't remember... 8041 03:26:01,560 --> 03:26:01,860 The Webby's is... 8042 03:26:01,860 --> 03:26:03,280 San Francisco's version... 8043 03:26:03,280 --> 03:26:04,380 Of the Oscars... 8044 03:26:04,380 --> 03:26:05,620 The Academy Awards... 8045 03:26:05,620 --> 03:26:06,920 For the Digerati... 8046 03:26:06,920 --> 03:26:07,700 And the event... 8047 03:26:07,700 --> 03:26:08,840 Comes complete with... 8048 03:26:08,840 --> 03:26:09,820 No she wasn't there... 8049 03:26:09,820 --> 03:26:10,980 The Digerati... 8050 03:26:10,980 --> 03:26:11,800 Thank you... 8051 03:26:11,800 --> 03:26:12,620 Omar... 8052 03:26:12,620 --> 03:26:13,560 Thank you very much... 8053 03:26:13,560 --> 03:26:15,360 The attacker's name... 8054 03:26:15,360 --> 03:26:16,620 And we've got some... 8055 03:26:16,620 --> 03:26:17,660 Insider scoop here... 8056 03:26:17,660 --> 03:26:19,720 The attacker's name... 8057 03:26:19,720 --> 03:26:20,880 Is Dirk... 8058 03:26:20,880 --> 03:26:22,880 Pacemans... 8059 03:26:22,880 --> 03:26:24,880 Dirk Pacemans... 8060 03:26:24,880 --> 03:26:26,220 Dirk Pacemans... 8061 03:26:26,220 --> 03:26:26,880 I think Dirk... 8062 03:26:27,600 --> 03:26:28,880 Might be a... 8063 03:26:28,880 --> 03:26:29,180 Uh... 8064 03:26:29,180 --> 03:26:30,460 If I can look at that again... 8065 03:26:30,460 --> 03:26:30,880 Just one more... 8066 03:26:32,460 --> 03:26:32,880 Fucking Russia... 8067 03:26:34,880 --> 03:26:35,880 Donbass... 8068 03:26:37,880 --> 03:26:38,880 NATO... 8069 03:26:38,880 --> 03:26:40,260 And... 8070 03:26:40,260 --> 03:26:40,820 Uh... 8071 03:26:40,820 --> 03:26:42,140 I can't see any Jane... 8072 03:26:42,140 --> 03:26:44,140 Dirk Pacemans... 8073 03:26:44,140 --> 03:26:45,480 One half of... 8074 03:26:45,480 --> 03:26:46,020 Joe D... 8075 03:26:46,020 --> 03:26:47,060 He is the D... 8076 03:26:47,060 --> 03:26:47,800 And the Joe was... 8077 03:26:47,800 --> 03:26:48,560 Joan... 8078 03:26:48,560 --> 03:26:49,140 Heemskirk... 8079 03:26:49,140 --> 03:26:51,140 Which was probably his wife... 8080 03:26:51,140 --> 03:26:53,140 Up on stage there... 8081 03:26:53,140 --> 03:26:54,140 No colours... 8082 03:26:54,140 --> 03:26:55,140 Anymore... 8083 03:26:55,140 --> 03:26:55,140 I... 8084 03:26:55,140 --> 03:26:56,140 Look at him there... 8085 03:26:56,140 --> 03:26:57,760 Looks a little bit like... 8086 03:26:57,760 --> 03:26:58,140 David Byrne... 8087 03:26:58,140 --> 03:27:00,140 When he first gets up... 8088 03:27:00,140 --> 03:27:01,360 I thought it was... 8089 03:27:01,360 --> 03:27:01,680 Uh... 8090 03:27:01,680 --> 03:27:02,140 A... 8091 03:27:02,140 --> 03:27:03,140 Talking head situation... 8092 03:27:03,140 --> 03:27:05,140 And he starts talking... 8093 03:27:05,140 --> 03:27:06,140 With the hands... 8094 03:27:06,140 --> 03:27:07,140 Look at the schnarl on him... 8095 03:27:07,140 --> 03:27:11,880 What the fuck were they at? 8096 03:27:13,540 --> 03:27:14,780 Oh my god... 8097 03:27:14,780 --> 03:27:15,280 Boom... 8098 03:27:22,160 --> 03:27:23,440 Father Demo... 8099 03:27:23,440 --> 03:27:25,280 Oasis or Blur... 8100 03:27:28,000 --> 03:27:29,280 Pacemans... 8101 03:27:29,280 --> 03:27:30,460 And it's spelled... 8102 03:27:30,460 --> 03:27:34,280 P-A-E-S-M-I-N-S... 8103 03:27:34,280 --> 03:27:35,600 Uh... 8104 03:27:35,600 --> 03:27:37,120 So it's a different pace... 8105 03:27:37,120 --> 03:27:43,260 Son of a bitch... 8106 03:27:43,260 --> 03:27:45,260 Son of a flow... 8107 03:27:45,260 --> 03:27:47,260 I have to turn my head... 8108 03:27:47,260 --> 03:27:51,260 Until my darkness goes... 8109 03:27:51,260 --> 03:27:52,600 Ugly commercial... 8110 03:27:52,600 --> 03:27:53,260 Son of... 8111 03:27:53,260 --> 03:27:54,260 Yes... 8112 03:27:54,920 --> 03:27:56,260 That's the spirit... 8113 03:27:56,260 --> 03:27:59,260 God bless the rebels... 8114 03:27:59,260 --> 03:28:00,400 Sorry there... 8115 03:28:00,400 --> 03:28:00,900 We've seen it... 8116 03:28:00,900 --> 03:28:01,400 We've seen it... 8117 03:28:01,400 --> 03:28:02,940 We'll just get back to your man... 8118 03:28:02,940 --> 03:28:04,400 There's 7.55... 8119 03:28:04,400 --> 03:28:05,400 Let's just hear him again... 8120 03:28:05,400 --> 03:28:07,400 To discover the products... 8121 03:28:07,400 --> 03:28:08,400 That you want to buy... 8122 03:28:08,400 --> 03:28:09,400 And to actually go through... 8123 03:28:09,400 --> 03:28:10,700 And buy them... 8124 03:28:10,700 --> 03:28:11,600 It's just the whole customer 8125 03:28:11,600 --> 03:28:12,400 experience... 8126 03:28:12,400 --> 03:28:13,400 It's just second to none... 8127 03:28:13,400 --> 03:28:14,400 I don't think they were Dutch... 8128 03:28:14,400 --> 03:28:15,400 I'd say they were... 8129 03:28:15,400 --> 03:28:16,400 But that name... 8130 03:28:16,400 --> 03:28:17,400 That name sounds... 8131 03:28:17,400 --> 03:28:18,300 Maybe more Dutch... 8132 03:28:18,300 --> 03:28:18,780 Than it does... 8133 03:28:18,780 --> 03:28:20,540 Lapin or Russian or... 8134 03:28:20,540 --> 03:28:24,540 It's a gas... 8135 03:28:24,540 --> 03:28:25,400 Box... 8136 03:28:25,400 --> 03:28:26,000 Music... 8137 03:28:26,000 --> 03:28:26,540 Video... 8138 03:28:26,540 --> 03:28:26,540 And... 8139 03:28:26,540 --> 03:28:27,540 Whippies... 8140 03:28:27,540 --> 03:28:39,080 The next category is... 8141 03:28:39,080 --> 03:28:39,580 Community... 8142 03:28:39,580 --> 03:28:40,680 And as I was researching... 8143 03:28:40,680 --> 03:28:41,380 The nominees for the... 8144 03:28:41,380 --> 03:28:42,180 Community category... 8145 03:28:42,180 --> 03:28:43,400 Something went wrong... 8146 03:28:43,400 --> 03:28:44,140 With my computer... 8147 03:28:44,140 --> 03:28:45,040 Thank you very much... 8148 03:28:45,040 --> 03:28:47,100 There Nick... 8149 03:28:47,100 --> 03:28:47,800 It looks like... 8150 03:28:47,800 --> 03:28:50,100 He knows we're on the block... 8151 03:28:50,100 --> 03:28:51,400 How about you... 8152 03:28:51,400 --> 03:28:52,440 Computer and I got lost... 8153 03:28:52,440 --> 03:28:53,100 At W... 8154 03:28:53,100 --> 03:28:55,640 What did your man say there... 8155 03:28:55,640 --> 03:28:56,240 Box... 8156 03:28:56,240 --> 03:28:56,800 Music... 8157 03:28:56,800 --> 03:28:57,300 Video... 8158 03:28:57,300 --> 03:28:57,500 Of... 8159 03:28:57,500 --> 03:28:58,540 Webby's... 8160 03:28:58,540 --> 03:29:00,940 Box... 8161 03:29:00,940 --> 03:29:01,380 Music... 8162 03:29:01,380 --> 03:29:01,880 Video... 8163 03:29:01,880 --> 03:29:02,700 Webby's... 8164 03:29:02,700 --> 03:29:03,240 Box... 8165 03:29:03,240 --> 03:29:03,840 Music... 8166 03:29:03,840 --> 03:29:04,340 Video... 8167 03:29:04,340 --> 03:29:04,540 Of... 8168 03:29:04,540 --> 03:29:05,600 Webby's... 8169 03:29:05,600 --> 03:29:06,740 Both hands... 8170 03:29:06,740 --> 03:29:08,740 That make a stash... 8171 03:29:08,740 --> 03:29:09,040 A... 8172 03:29:09,040 --> 03:29:10,240 Crucial grape... 8173 03:29:10,240 --> 03:29:11,380 The next category is... 8174 03:29:11,380 --> 03:29:11,920 Community... 8175 03:29:11,920 --> 03:29:12,980 And as I was researching... 8176 03:29:12,980 --> 03:29:13,660 The nominees for the... 8177 03:29:13,660 --> 03:29:14,920 Community category... 8178 03:29:14,920 --> 03:29:15,660 Something went wrong... 8179 03:29:15,660 --> 03:29:16,480 With my computer... 8180 03:29:16,480 --> 03:29:17,180 And I got lost... 8181 03:29:17,180 --> 03:29:17,320 At... 8182 03:29:17,320 --> 03:29:20,600 www.badneighborhood.com... 8183 03:29:20,600 --> 03:29:23,020 For like two hours... 8184 03:29:23,020 --> 03:29:23,800 Made some of the wrong... 8185 03:29:23,800 --> 03:29:24,560 Kind of friends... 8186 03:29:24,560 --> 03:29:26,660 Bought some porn... 8187 03:29:26,660 --> 03:29:27,760 Got hooked up with some drugs... 8188 03:29:27,760 --> 03:29:28,890 And joined a gang called the 8189 03:29:28,890 --> 03:29:29,660 losers... 8190 03:29:29,660 --> 03:29:31,660 All the while... 8191 03:29:31,660 --> 03:29:32,700 I'm sitting at home... 8192 03:29:32,700 --> 03:29:33,260 Naked... 8193 03:29:33,260 --> 03:29:34,840 And I'm still an active member... 8194 03:29:34,840 --> 03:29:36,140 Of the community... 8195 03:29:36,140 --> 03:29:38,100 A mover... 8196 03:29:38,100 --> 03:29:39,040 And a shaker... 8197 03:29:39,040 --> 03:29:40,380 In the online world... 8198 03:29:40,380 --> 03:29:40,840 Are we... 8199 03:29:40,840 --> 03:29:42,240 Are we onto portals here? 8200 03:29:42,240 --> 03:29:45,240 And now... 8201 03:29:45,240 --> 03:29:46,340 The nominees... 8202 03:29:46,340 --> 03:29:47,240 For community are... 8203 03:29:50,840 --> 03:29:51,240 Community... 8204 03:29:52,240 --> 03:29:53,600 Web communities... 8205 03:29:53,600 --> 03:29:55,240 Building communities... 8206 03:29:55,760 --> 03:29:57,240 Of like-minded individuals... 8207 03:29:57,800 --> 03:29:59,240 Who like the same sort of stuff... 8208 03:29:59,760 --> 03:30:00,240 Hang out... 8209 03:30:01,760 --> 03:30:02,240 In those communities... 8210 03:30:03,240 --> 03:30:05,460 The early days of communities... 8211 03:30:05,460 --> 03:30:06,560 Miningvillage.com... 8212 03:30:06,560 --> 03:30:08,460 Ivevillage.com... 8213 03:30:12,460 --> 03:30:14,300 Chat topics... 8214 03:30:14,300 --> 03:30:15,460 Miningcompany.com... 8215 03:30:15,460 --> 03:30:16,460 Miningcompany.com... 8216 03:30:20,460 --> 03:30:23,460 Seniornet... 8217 03:30:23,460 --> 03:30:24,460 No way... 8218 03:30:24,460 --> 03:30:25,620 I don't think... 8219 03:30:25,620 --> 03:30:26,640 Not to be confused with... 8220 03:30:26,640 --> 03:30:27,460 Seniornet... 8221 03:30:28,460 --> 03:30:29,460 Pfft... 8222 03:30:29,460 --> 03:30:30,460 Talk shit... 8223 03:30:30,460 --> 03:30:31,460 Talk shit... 8224 03:30:31,460 --> 03:30:33,460 It's all coming full circle... 8225 03:30:33,460 --> 03:30:34,460 Because we were already seeing... 8226 03:30:34,460 --> 03:30:35,460 Seniornet... 8227 03:30:35,460 --> 03:30:36,460 Early on... 8228 03:30:36,460 --> 03:30:37,460 And third age... 8229 03:30:37,460 --> 03:30:38,460 Third age... 8230 03:30:38,460 --> 03:30:41,460 The web... 8231 03:30:41,460 --> 03:30:43,460 For grown-ups... 8232 03:30:43,460 --> 03:30:44,460 The web... 8233 03:30:44,460 --> 03:30:45,460 For grown-ups... 8234 03:30:45,460 --> 03:30:47,460 The web... 8235 03:30:47,460 --> 03:30:48,460 For grown-ups... 8236 03:30:48,460 --> 03:30:49,460 Third age... 8237 03:30:49,460 --> 03:30:50,460 Third age... 8238 03:30:50,460 --> 03:31:04,460 *Pewds music* 8239 03:31:04,460 --> 03:31:07,440 And the winner of the 1999 Webby 8240 03:31:07,440 --> 03:31:09,460 Award for Community goes to... 8241 03:31:09,460 --> 03:31:12,150 Third Age Senior Net! I can't 8242 03:31:12,150 --> 03:31:15,130 believe... can't believe they 8243 03:31:15,130 --> 03:31:16,460 won it. 8244 03:31:16,460 --> 03:31:18,310 We were stunned. I mean we are 8245 03:31:18,310 --> 03:31:20,080 a little non-profit and we did 8246 03:31:20,080 --> 03:31:21,730 have big competitions so we 8247 03:31:21,730 --> 03:31:23,520 were surprised that we won but 8248 03:31:23,520 --> 03:31:24,460 thrilled. 8249 03:31:24,460 --> 03:31:27,170 And our community will just be... 8250 03:31:27,170 --> 03:31:28,940 oh my god I can just imagine 8251 03:31:28,940 --> 03:31:31,460 the celebration online tomorrow. 8252 03:31:31,460 --> 03:31:36,460 *Pewds music* 8253 03:31:36,460 --> 03:31:42,460 Wow! Yes! Senior Net and Webby! 8254 03:31:42,460 --> 03:31:45,240 Wow! Yes! Senior Net and Webby! 8255 03:31:45,240 --> 03:31:46,460 That's five! 8256 03:31:46,460 --> 03:31:48,460 *Pewds music* 8257 03:31:48,460 --> 03:31:50,300 We'll move right along with the 8258 03:31:50,300 --> 03:31:51,610 next category which is 8259 03:31:51,610 --> 03:31:52,460 Education. 8260 03:31:52,460 --> 03:31:55,340 And now the nominees for 8261 03:31:55,340 --> 03:31:58,460 Education are... 8262 03:31:58,460 --> 03:32:02,460 Running Slow. 8263 03:32:02,460 --> 03:32:07,460 *Pewds music* 8264 03:32:07,460 --> 03:32:09,460 Journey North! 8265 03:32:09,460 --> 03:32:14,460 *Pewds music* 8266 03:32:14,460 --> 03:32:21,460 Kathy Schrock's Guide for Educators. 8267 03:32:21,460 --> 03:32:31,320 The Global Schoolhouse. And the 8268 03:32:31,320 --> 03:32:41,760 Math Forum. Web66. Web66. Like 8269 03:32:41,760 --> 03:32:43,860 Rouge66, but for the web. 8270 03:32:43,860 --> 03:32:49,190 And the winner of the 1999 Webby 8271 03:32:49,190 --> 03:32:52,650 Award in Education goes to 8272 03:32:52,650 --> 03:33:00,400 Journey North. What's that band? 8273 03:33:00,400 --> 03:33:05,720 Does anyone know? 8274 03:33:05,720 --> 03:33:14,970 I'm hot for teacher. Van Halen. 8275 03:33:14,970 --> 03:33:20,770 Hot for teacher. I'm hot for 8276 03:33:20,770 --> 03:33:21,720 teacher. 8277 03:33:21,720 --> 03:33:26,720 Van Halen. I'm hot for teacher. 8278 03:33:26,720 --> 03:33:33,100 Come on down. Van Halen. Van 8279 03:33:33,100 --> 03:33:38,030 Halen. I'm hot for teacher. I'm 8280 03:33:38,030 --> 03:33:39,720 hot for teacher. 8281 03:33:39,720 --> 03:33:41,260 Journey North is a science 8282 03:33:41,260 --> 03:33:43,150 education program that uses the 8283 03:33:43,150 --> 03:33:44,760 internet to collect data so 8284 03:33:44,760 --> 03:33:46,300 students follow Spring's 8285 03:33:46,300 --> 03:33:47,950 Journey North. And they're 8286 03:33:47,950 --> 03:33:49,390 actually following wildlife 8287 03:33:49,390 --> 03:33:50,980 migration of monarch butter. 8288 03:33:51,060 --> 03:33:53,090 The data is in the holes. It's 8289 03:33:53,090 --> 03:33:54,720 a computer concept. 8290 03:33:54,720 --> 03:33:56,060 Moves all the way up to the 8291 03:33:56,060 --> 03:33:57,940 Arctic. We have students that, 8292 03:33:57,940 --> 03:34:00,400 over 200,000 students across 8293 03:34:00,400 --> 03:34:01,880 the US and Canada and Mexico 8294 03:34:01,880 --> 03:34:03,720 who are following migration. 8295 03:34:03,720 --> 03:34:05,740 Don't want to get done. You 8296 03:34:05,740 --> 03:34:07,780 know I'm on this, I'm out of 8297 03:34:07,780 --> 03:34:10,720 the probationary fucking minefield. 8298 03:34:10,720 --> 03:34:12,800 But I just want to see if there 8299 03:34:12,800 --> 03:34:14,710 was a video for that hot for 8300 03:34:14,710 --> 03:34:17,720 teacher. Van Halen. 8301 03:34:23,720 --> 03:34:24,200 Wow. 8302 03:34:24,200 --> 03:34:27,010 Sorry there. Could be a bit 8303 03:34:27,010 --> 03:34:28,700 sexual. Could be a bit too 8304 03:34:28,700 --> 03:34:30,530 early in the day but I mean it's 8305 03:34:30,530 --> 03:34:32,200 obviously on YouTube. 8306 03:34:32,200 --> 03:34:35,120 Now Waldo, I hope you find some 8307 03:34:35,120 --> 03:34:37,200 friends this year. 8308 03:34:37,200 --> 03:34:39,200 Aw, Mom. 8309 03:34:39,200 --> 03:34:40,200 Bit straight. 8310 03:34:40,200 --> 03:34:43,630 No, I'm not like other guys. I'm 8311 03:34:43,630 --> 03:34:46,990 nervous and my socks are too 8312 03:34:46,990 --> 03:34:48,200 loose. 8313 03:34:48,200 --> 03:34:50,760 It's scary isn't it? Do you 8314 03:34:50,760 --> 03:34:52,270 know? It's scary stuff when you 8315 03:34:52,270 --> 03:34:54,200 look back at it. It's so weird. 8316 03:35:01,200 --> 03:35:03,200 Sit down, Waldo. 8317 03:35:03,200 --> 03:35:06,200 What a bizarre idea. 8318 03:35:06,200 --> 03:35:07,950 Yeah, I don't know if I want to 8319 03:35:07,950 --> 03:35:09,200 watch any of this. 8320 03:35:09,200 --> 03:35:16,890 Yeah, I don't know if I want to 8321 03:35:16,890 --> 03:35:22,200 watch any of this. 8322 03:35:22,200 --> 03:35:25,130 Yeah, fucking great tune though 8323 03:35:25,130 --> 03:35:26,200 isn't it? 8324 03:35:26,200 --> 03:35:28,200 Wow. 8325 03:35:28,200 --> 03:35:30,880 Oh, Daft Punk. They fucking 8326 03:35:30,880 --> 03:35:32,200 stole that, did they? 8327 03:35:32,200 --> 03:35:34,120 I wonder if Daft Punk got a Van 8328 03:35:34,120 --> 03:35:35,800 Halen tune and put that into 8329 03:35:35,800 --> 03:35:38,200 Discovery or one of those songs. 8330 03:35:38,200 --> 03:35:51,200 It is! 8331 03:35:51,200 --> 03:35:53,030 Tell you Daft Punk, if you go 8332 03:35:53,030 --> 03:35:55,200 back and look at all the stuff. 8333 03:35:55,200 --> 03:35:56,810 I used to think Daft Punk did 8334 03:35:56,810 --> 03:35:58,350 all their fucking tunes on 8335 03:35:58,350 --> 03:35:59,200 Discovery. 8336 03:35:59,200 --> 03:36:01,400 It's a lot of other people's 8337 03:36:01,400 --> 03:36:03,200 stuff. Do you know? 8338 03:36:13,200 --> 03:36:15,200 What's that tune that uses that? 8339 03:36:15,200 --> 03:36:31,200 *Sings the tune of the song* 8340 03:36:31,200 --> 03:36:33,200 Great tune though. Great album. 8341 03:36:33,200 --> 03:36:35,200 *Sings the tune of the song* 8342 03:36:35,200 --> 03:36:36,200 *Sings the tune of the song* 8343 03:36:36,200 --> 03:36:37,200 Aerodynamic. 8344 03:36:37,200 --> 03:36:38,790 And it had all the, the whole 8345 03:36:38,790 --> 03:36:40,450 album was a fucking cartoon as 8346 03:36:40,450 --> 03:36:42,030 well if you think you can play 8347 03:36:42,030 --> 03:36:43,200 the whole thing. 8348 03:36:43,200 --> 03:36:44,200 *Sings the tune of the song* 8349 03:36:44,200 --> 03:36:46,200 *Sings the tune of the song* 8350 03:36:46,200 --> 03:36:47,200 *Sings the tune of the song* 8351 03:36:47,200 --> 03:36:49,200 *Sings the tune of the song* 8352 03:36:49,200 --> 03:36:52,200 *Sings the tune of the song* 8353 03:36:52,200 --> 03:36:54,840 I don't want to get the channel 8354 03:36:54,840 --> 03:36:55,200 done. 8355 03:36:55,200 --> 03:36:57,700 It's interesting stuff, isn't 8356 03:36:57,700 --> 03:36:58,200 it? 8357 03:36:58,200 --> 03:36:59,780 The channel will get done for 8358 03:36:59,780 --> 03:37:01,690 copyright, not for content, you 8359 03:37:01,690 --> 03:37:02,200 know? 8360 03:37:02,200 --> 03:37:03,240 for content, you know? 8361 03:37:03,960 --> 03:37:05,000 The same thing. 8362 03:37:19,680 --> 03:37:21,040 Monarch Butterflies, 8363 03:37:21,280 --> 03:37:21,980 Bald Eagles, 8364 03:37:22,620 --> 03:37:23,080 Nature, 8365 03:37:23,500 --> 03:37:23,820 Children, 8366 03:37:24,180 --> 03:37:24,580 Internet. 8367 03:37:28,440 --> 03:37:29,500 Have Gareth Bane! 8368 03:37:29,560 --> 03:37:30,560 The best thing about that 8369 03:37:30,560 --> 03:37:31,700 was the Van Halen tune. 8370 03:37:31,800 --> 03:37:33,720 Actually, every award, 8371 03:37:34,140 --> 03:37:35,700 the tunes have been better 8372 03:37:35,700 --> 03:37:37,020 than the actual recipients. 8373 03:37:39,620 --> 03:37:40,720 Coming up next. 8374 03:37:41,100 --> 03:37:42,320 And then back into the safety 8375 03:37:42,320 --> 03:37:43,740 and comfort of the Netcafé 8376 03:37:43,740 --> 03:37:44,220 tunes. 8377 03:37:44,300 --> 03:37:45,470 Webby Award for the best 8378 03:37:45,470 --> 03:37:46,580 fashion website. 8379 03:37:50,820 --> 03:37:52,740 The next category is fashion. 8380 03:37:52,880 --> 03:37:53,540 I'm certainly not what you 8381 03:37:53,540 --> 03:37:54,060 would call 8382 03:37:54,060 --> 03:37:54,980 a fashion plate. 8383 03:37:55,260 --> 03:37:56,460 I'm actually wondering, 8384 03:37:56,580 --> 03:37:57,860 at what age do I stop digging 8385 03:37:57,860 --> 03:37:59,060 through dead people's clothing 8386 03:37:59,060 --> 03:38:00,220 at stinky thrift stores? 8387 03:38:01,400 --> 03:38:02,600 When do I not walk up to my 8388 03:38:02,600 --> 03:38:03,080 friends 8389 03:38:03,080 --> 03:38:03,320 going, 8390 03:38:03,320 --> 03:38:04,300 check out this shirt, 8391 03:38:04,560 --> 03:38:05,380 three bucks? 8392 03:38:07,380 --> 03:38:08,620 Look, it says Bob over the 8393 03:38:08,620 --> 03:38:09,180 pocket. 8394 03:38:10,360 --> 03:38:11,360 Think it belonged to somebody 8395 03:38:11,360 --> 03:38:12,240 who worked for a living. 8396 03:38:16,580 --> 03:38:17,580 All right, all right. 8397 03:38:17,580 --> 03:38:17,760 All right. 8398 03:38:17,760 --> 03:38:17,760 All right. 8399 03:38:17,760 --> 03:38:17,780 All right. 8400 03:38:17,780 --> 03:38:17,780 All right. 8401 03:38:17,780 --> 03:38:17,780 All right. 8402 03:38:17,780 --> 03:38:17,780 All right. 8403 03:38:17,780 --> 03:38:17,780 All right. 8404 03:38:17,780 --> 03:38:17,780 All right. 8405 03:38:17,780 --> 03:38:17,780 All right. 8406 03:38:17,780 --> 03:38:17,880 All right. 8407 03:38:17,880 --> 03:38:17,920 All right. 8408 03:38:17,920 --> 03:38:19,550 And now the nominees for 8409 03:38:19,550 --> 03:38:20,780 fashion are... 8410 03:38:20,780 --> 03:38:28,180 Vogue.com. 8411 03:38:28,180 --> 03:38:30,300 Gap.com. 8412 03:38:30,300 --> 03:38:31,160 Hint Magazine. 8413 03:38:31,160 --> 03:38:32,480 Hint Magazine. 8414 03:38:32,480 --> 03:38:40,020 London Fashion Week. 8415 03:38:46,020 --> 03:38:46,860 Lumiere. 8416 03:38:46,860 --> 03:38:47,680 Lumiere. 8417 03:38:55,440 --> 03:38:56,360 Paper Mag. 8418 03:39:04,040 --> 03:39:06,780 W and L T Online. 8419 03:39:09,780 --> 03:39:11,120 Walsh. 8420 03:39:11,120 --> 03:39:12,750 And the winner for the 1999 8421 03:39:12,750 --> 03:39:13,160 fashion 8422 03:39:13,160 --> 03:39:15,320 Webby is... 8423 03:39:15,320 --> 03:39:16,220 Walsh. 8424 03:39:16,220 --> 03:39:17,620 Paper Mag. 8425 03:39:17,620 --> 03:39:20,410 Paper Mag is a pop cultural 8426 03:39:20,410 --> 03:39:22,300 site published out of New York 8427 03:39:22,300 --> 03:39:22,880 City. 8428 03:39:22,880 --> 03:39:24,600 And part of it is a guide to 8429 03:39:24,600 --> 03:39:26,340 what's hot every day. 8430 03:39:26,340 --> 03:39:28,960 It's the content changes daily. 8431 03:39:28,960 --> 03:39:30,530 And part of it is really about 8432 03:39:30,530 --> 03:39:31,740 style and fashion. 8433 03:39:31,740 --> 03:39:33,620 And part of it is just about 8434 03:39:33,620 --> 03:39:35,780 news and culture and music and 8435 03:39:35,780 --> 03:39:36,900 film, etc. 8436 03:39:46,020 --> 03:39:46,520 Thank. 8437 03:39:46,520 --> 03:39:47,020 You. 8438 03:39:47,020 --> 03:39:47,520 We. 8439 03:39:47,520 --> 03:39:48,020 Deserve. 8440 03:39:48,020 --> 03:39:48,520 It. 8441 03:39:48,520 --> 03:39:49,520 Yeah. 8442 03:39:49,520 --> 03:39:50,020 Yeah. 8443 03:39:54,100 --> 03:39:55,620 The next category is film. 8444 03:39:55,620 --> 03:39:58,440 And now the nominees for film. 8445 03:40:00,360 --> 03:40:01,980 IMDB.com. 8446 03:40:01,980 --> 03:40:03,980 Movies.com. 8447 03:40:05,980 --> 03:40:06,980 Coming Attractions. 8448 03:40:14,280 --> 03:40:15,480 Dark Horizons. 8449 03:40:22,740 --> 03:40:23,740 Film.com. 8450 03:40:23,740 --> 03:40:25,140 I should have said film. 8451 03:40:25,140 --> 03:40:25,920 Did I say film? 8452 03:40:25,920 --> 03:40:27,180 I said movies.com. 8453 03:40:27,180 --> 03:40:28,180 Film.com. 8454 03:40:28,180 --> 03:40:28,980 Film.com. 8455 03:40:28,980 --> 03:40:33,600 Internet Movie Database. 8456 03:40:33,600 --> 03:40:34,990 And they're definitely going to 8457 03:40:34,990 --> 03:40:35,500 take it. 8458 03:40:39,900 --> 03:40:39,460 Ireland Film and Television 8459 03:40:39,460 --> 03:40:40,600 Next. 8460 03:40:40,600 --> 03:40:41,180 There we go. 8461 03:40:41,180 --> 03:40:41,680 There we go. 8462 03:40:41,680 --> 03:40:42,240 IFT. 8463 03:40:42,240 --> 03:40:43,340 How did they get it? 8464 03:40:43,340 --> 03:40:44,520 How did they get in there? 8465 03:40:45,520 --> 03:40:46,400 IFTN. 8466 03:40:48,460 --> 03:40:49,640 Be great if they won it. 8467 03:40:51,220 --> 03:40:53,860 And the winner of the 1999 Webby 8468 03:40:53,860 --> 03:40:55,720 for the category of film goes 8469 03:40:55,720 --> 03:40:57,900 to Internet Movie Database. 8470 03:41:01,840 --> 03:41:02,720 Come on down. 8471 03:41:04,880 --> 03:41:05,130 I'd say they had a nice little 8472 03:41:05,130 --> 03:41:07,640 junket anyway trip over to the 8473 03:41:07,640 --> 03:41:08,640 States. 8474 03:41:09,520 --> 03:41:10,150 We cover everything from 8475 03:41:10,150 --> 03:41:11,040 executive. 8476 03:41:12,100 --> 03:41:13,180 It's the same guy. 8477 03:41:13,340 --> 03:41:13,940 No way. 8478 03:41:14,380 --> 03:41:15,180 Does Amazon. 8479 03:41:15,800 --> 03:41:17,200 Did they own IMDB? 8480 03:41:17,900 --> 03:41:19,130 Or if they used the same 8481 03:41:19,130 --> 03:41:20,740 fucking clip from Amazon. 8482 03:41:22,520 --> 03:41:23,410 Maybe they've accidentally used 8483 03:41:23,410 --> 03:41:24,780 the same clip. 8484 03:41:26,280 --> 03:41:27,310 They've got the same tear of 8485 03:41:27,310 --> 03:41:28,640 tissue guy. 8486 03:41:29,780 --> 03:41:29,940 I could. 8487 03:41:30,600 --> 03:41:31,440 I could crush a. 8488 03:41:31,440 --> 03:41:32,680 I could crush a grape. 8489 03:41:36,520 --> 03:41:38,140 Cover everything from executive 8490 03:41:38,140 --> 03:41:39,450 producer all the way down to 8491 03:41:39,450 --> 03:41:40,900 third assistant caterer. 8492 03:41:41,620 --> 03:41:44,410 We cover quotes, goofs, trivia, 8493 03:41:44,410 --> 03:41:45,640 reviews. 8494 03:41:46,480 --> 03:41:47,540 Just anything you can imagine 8495 03:41:47,540 --> 03:41:49,180 to store about a movie. 8496 03:41:49,540 --> 03:41:50,120 We've got it. 8497 03:41:59,400 --> 03:42:00,320 Oh God. 8498 03:42:00,840 --> 03:42:03,480 Again, the music being the best 8499 03:42:03,480 --> 03:42:05,520 thing about this. 8500 03:42:05,940 --> 03:42:06,790 I'm the king of the world, I 8501 03:42:06,790 --> 03:42:08,100 think he's about to say. 8502 03:42:12,560 --> 03:42:13,460 I'm the king of the world, Wide 8503 03:42:13,460 --> 03:42:14,740 Web. 8504 03:42:18,660 --> 03:42:19,900 Over five words. 8505 03:42:20,240 --> 03:42:21,140 So that was a fail. 8506 03:42:21,960 --> 03:42:23,840 The next category is finance. 8507 03:42:23,840 --> 03:42:24,840 And I. 8508 03:42:25,060 --> 03:42:25,760 And it's all. 8509 03:42:25,940 --> 03:42:27,460 The other guy had to be told to 8510 03:42:27,460 --> 03:42:28,980 leave by Cyberwoman. 8511 03:42:29,020 --> 03:42:30,660 in the background there. 8512 03:42:31,260 --> 03:42:32,120 Or she's saying something to 8513 03:42:32,120 --> 03:42:32,480 him. 8514 03:42:33,460 --> 03:42:34,220 What's being said? 8515 03:42:34,280 --> 03:42:34,660 What's happening? 8516 03:42:35,140 --> 03:42:36,960 She's being told move along. 8517 03:42:38,000 --> 03:42:39,320 He's being told to move along. 8518 03:42:40,360 --> 03:42:42,300 The next category is finance. 8519 03:42:42,620 --> 03:42:43,300 And I. 8520 03:42:43,540 --> 03:42:44,430 Between all the financial 8521 03:42:44,430 --> 03:42:45,720 information sites and online 8522 03:42:45,720 --> 03:42:46,460 brokerages. 8523 03:42:47,300 --> 03:42:47,870 The internet has made the 8524 03:42:47,870 --> 03:42:49,630 global stock market into a home 8525 03:42:49,630 --> 03:42:50,300 casino. 8526 03:42:54,620 --> 03:42:55,620 I missed that joke. 8527 03:42:55,620 --> 03:42:56,380 I missed that joke. 8528 03:42:56,380 --> 03:42:56,680 Sorry. 8529 03:42:56,680 --> 03:42:57,300 One second. 8530 03:42:58,080 --> 03:42:59,230 And someone said that he looks 8531 03:42:59,230 --> 03:43:00,660 like Alan Shatter. 8532 03:43:00,840 --> 03:43:02,830 The fellow that's been corralled 8533 03:43:02,830 --> 03:43:04,120 off stage there. 8534 03:43:04,180 --> 03:43:05,880 He does in that frame. 8535 03:43:07,140 --> 03:43:08,020 Alan Shatter. 8536 03:43:09,860 --> 03:43:11,620 I've managed to get in on the 8537 03:43:11,620 --> 03:43:13,020 IMDB award there. 8538 03:43:14,320 --> 03:43:16,380 The next category is finance. 8539 03:43:16,820 --> 03:43:17,360 And I. 8540 03:43:17,600 --> 03:43:18,490 Between all the financial 8541 03:43:18,490 --> 03:43:19,780 information sites and online 8542 03:43:19,780 --> 03:43:20,520 brokerages. 8543 03:43:21,260 --> 03:43:21,930 The internet has made the 8544 03:43:21,930 --> 03:43:23,690 global stock market into a home 8545 03:43:23,690 --> 03:43:24,360 casino. 8546 03:43:30,360 --> 03:43:31,800 A lot of new and exciting ways 8547 03:43:31,800 --> 03:43:33,300 for normal average people to 8548 03:43:33,300 --> 03:43:33,980 lose money. 8549 03:43:36,020 --> 03:43:36,900 Right now. 8550 03:43:37,100 --> 03:43:37,620 And now. 8551 03:43:38,080 --> 03:43:40,720 The nominees for finance are. 8552 03:43:43,100 --> 03:43:44,660 What's the bets for finance in 8553 03:43:44,660 --> 03:43:47,100 1999? 8554 03:43:47,100 --> 03:43:52,120 Are we any guesses there? 8555 03:43:52,300 --> 03:43:52,920 AIB? 8556 03:43:53,020 --> 03:43:54,160 I don't think so. 8557 03:43:55,600 --> 03:43:56,760 Chase Bank? 8558 03:43:57,480 --> 03:43:58,400 It's American stuff. 8559 03:43:58,540 --> 03:43:58,920 PayPal? 8560 03:43:59,420 --> 03:43:59,760 Maybe. 8561 03:44:03,940 --> 03:44:05,180 Yahoo Finance. 8562 03:44:05,340 --> 03:44:05,800 Bloomberg. 8563 03:44:06,160 --> 03:44:06,580 PayPal. 8564 03:44:07,580 --> 03:44:08,920 You ain't seen nothing yet. 8565 03:44:08,920 --> 03:44:08,980 Yes. 8566 03:44:08,980 --> 03:44:18,820 Clear station. 8567 03:44:19,400 --> 03:44:20,300 Nobody had that. 8568 03:44:20,780 --> 03:44:21,580 Nobody had that. 8569 03:44:26,480 --> 03:44:27,120 Elon. 8570 03:44:27,840 --> 03:44:28,780 Elon Musk. 8571 03:44:31,080 --> 03:44:32,110 Before he did PayPal, he did 8572 03:44:32,110 --> 03:44:33,080 that. 8573 03:44:36,860 --> 03:44:37,920 Investor Home. 8574 03:44:38,220 --> 03:44:39,660 Nobody's guessed any of these 8575 03:44:39,660 --> 03:44:40,060 yet. 8576 03:44:44,620 --> 03:44:46,080 The Motley Fool. 8577 03:44:48,840 --> 03:44:50,040 Fool.com. 8578 03:44:53,040 --> 03:44:54,230 The Wall Street Journal Interactive 8579 03:44:54,230 --> 03:44:55,620 Edition. 8580 03:44:55,960 --> 03:44:57,240 That should have been a guess. 8581 03:44:57,620 --> 03:44:58,520 Nobody guessed that. 8582 03:44:58,640 --> 03:44:59,380 Should have been a guess. 8583 03:45:00,640 --> 03:45:02,470 And the winner of the 1999 Webby 8584 03:45:02,470 --> 03:45:04,720 Award for finance goes to. 8585 03:45:05,900 --> 03:45:07,020 The Motley Fool. 8586 03:45:07,300 --> 03:45:09,020 If I were a rich man. 8587 03:45:13,420 --> 03:45:14,940 All day long. 8588 03:45:16,560 --> 03:45:18,780 If I were a wealthy man. 8589 03:45:19,000 --> 03:45:21,140 Open a Northe IRA today. 8590 03:45:22,460 --> 03:45:24,260 My first day as a fool. 8591 03:45:24,260 --> 03:45:25,520 I have to work hard. 8592 03:45:28,020 --> 03:45:29,740 I think I'm scaring him. 8593 03:45:30,200 --> 03:45:33,340 If I were a bitty bitty rich. 8594 03:45:33,340 --> 03:45:37,580 I did a diddle diddle man. 8595 03:45:38,440 --> 03:45:40,020 I feel. 8596 03:45:40,540 --> 03:45:41,160 Oh God. 8597 03:46:01,160 --> 03:46:02,440 Harley Quinn. 8598 03:46:02,440 --> 03:46:05,780 It's about power. 8599 03:46:06,360 --> 03:46:07,400 To the people. 8600 03:46:08,980 --> 03:46:09,660 Discipline me. 8601 03:46:10,980 --> 03:46:11,960 Had to take it in a weird 8602 03:46:11,960 --> 03:46:13,460 direction. 8603 03:46:14,260 --> 03:46:15,560 He couldn't just leave it there. 8604 03:46:18,260 --> 03:46:20,080 And how weird man. 8605 03:46:20,140 --> 03:46:21,230 I don't even have to put the 8606 03:46:21,230 --> 03:46:22,180 fucking music on. 8607 03:46:22,580 --> 03:46:24,370 Because they've got that 8608 03:46:24,370 --> 03:46:26,700 strange sound coming through. 8609 03:46:26,840 --> 03:46:28,080 And he's walking off to it as 8610 03:46:28,080 --> 03:46:28,520 well. 8611 03:46:28,740 --> 03:46:29,800 Look at the swagger on him. 8612 03:46:31,080 --> 03:46:31,920 How bizarre. 8613 03:46:32,260 --> 03:46:32,820 Discipline me. 8614 03:46:32,900 --> 03:46:33,200 He said. 8615 03:46:33,320 --> 03:46:33,660 Pardon me. 8616 03:46:39,100 --> 03:46:40,840 Maybe we can just slow it down. 8617 03:46:41,020 --> 03:46:43,200 Just for old time's sake. 8618 03:46:44,560 --> 03:46:45,840 And maybe even just a bit of 8619 03:46:45,840 --> 03:46:46,700 this. 8620 03:46:53,800 --> 03:47:20,240 The next category is games. 8621 03:47:20,240 --> 03:47:22,000 And as I said in my opening. 8622 03:47:22,000 --> 03:47:23,940 It seems like people talk about 8623 03:47:23,940 --> 03:47:25,430 computers with the same 8624 03:47:25,430 --> 03:47:26,300 language. 8625 03:47:26,300 --> 03:47:27,500 They talk about vehicles that 8626 03:47:27,500 --> 03:47:28,260 actually move. 8627 03:47:29,920 --> 03:47:30,560 Computer games. 8628 03:47:30,560 --> 03:47:31,860 It's really fast man. 8629 03:47:31,920 --> 03:47:33,030 But I haven't heard anyone say 8630 03:47:33,030 --> 03:47:33,280 yet. 8631 03:47:33,300 --> 03:47:34,140 Be careful man. 8632 03:47:34,180 --> 03:47:35,120 A friend of mine got killed 8633 03:47:35,120 --> 03:47:36,140 running that program. 8634 03:47:39,580 --> 03:47:39,960 He'll come back out the other 8635 03:47:39,960 --> 03:47:41,100 side. 8636 03:47:41,160 --> 03:47:42,420 I'll get my zip drive working. 8637 03:47:42,860 --> 03:47:46,140 And now the category for games. 8638 03:47:46,140 --> 03:47:47,080 Let's see them. 8639 03:47:47,080 --> 03:47:48,140 The nominees are... 8640 03:47:48,140 --> 03:47:57,400 Digital addiction. 8641 03:47:59,920 --> 03:48:01,480 That's what we all have now. 8642 03:48:01,480 --> 03:48:01,480 That's what we all have now. 8643 03:48:03,480 --> 03:48:04,960 Gamers Central. 8644 03:48:11,200 --> 03:48:12,600 No one cheers for that. 8645 03:48:12,600 --> 03:48:14,560 Java on the brain. 8646 03:48:20,740 --> 03:48:22,900 Multibar arcade machine emulator. 8647 03:48:23,320 --> 03:48:24,960 Decent emulator isn't it? 8648 03:48:29,120 --> 03:48:30,200 Shock rave. 8649 03:48:31,020 --> 03:48:32,480 Downloading the shock rave. 8650 03:48:33,120 --> 03:48:34,720 For all the ladies in the cave. 8651 03:48:35,280 --> 03:48:36,560 So get your groove on. 8652 03:48:37,500 --> 03:48:39,360 And it's chef from South Park. 8653 03:48:39,660 --> 03:48:40,720 Flash cards. 8654 03:48:41,620 --> 03:48:42,120 Bowling. 8655 03:48:43,400 --> 03:48:45,400 And something about flashbang. 8656 03:48:47,400 --> 03:48:48,360 Gamer zone. 8657 03:48:50,780 --> 03:48:51,420 And the winner of the 1999 Webby 8658 03:48:51,420 --> 03:48:53,960 Award for games goes to... 8659 03:48:57,120 --> 03:48:58,280 Gamer Central. 8660 03:48:58,740 --> 03:48:59,960 Give it up for them people. 8661 03:49:02,040 --> 03:49:03,100 Mech warrior 3. 8662 03:49:03,980 --> 03:49:05,180 Turok 2. 8663 03:49:06,200 --> 03:49:06,760 Summoner. 8664 03:49:07,960 --> 03:49:09,460 Summoner looks rubbish. 8665 03:49:09,940 --> 03:49:11,160 It's like a big block. 8666 03:49:11,340 --> 03:49:13,540 You're a giant block man. 8667 03:49:14,560 --> 03:49:16,680 Summoner is probably Volition's. 8668 03:49:16,680 --> 03:49:19,140 Most ambitious project so far. 8669 03:49:19,860 --> 03:49:21,380 Although the final release. 8670 03:49:21,680 --> 03:49:22,960 Is at least a year away. 8671 03:49:23,480 --> 03:49:25,160 And a lot may still change. 8672 03:49:25,880 --> 03:49:27,330 Everything about this upcoming 8673 03:49:27,330 --> 03:49:27,840 RPG. 8674 03:49:28,060 --> 03:49:28,720 Looks impressive. 8675 03:49:29,800 --> 03:49:31,320 This first look will get you. 8676 03:49:31,400 --> 03:49:32,740 Up to speed on this very 8677 03:49:32,740 --> 03:49:33,600 exciting. 8678 03:49:34,220 --> 03:49:34,660 Title. 8679 03:49:35,140 --> 03:49:35,660 Summoner. 8680 03:49:35,660 --> 03:49:40,500 I think Turok was about 8681 03:49:40,500 --> 03:49:43,620 dinosaurs. 8682 03:49:43,840 --> 03:49:44,720 I think he controlled the 8683 03:49:44,720 --> 03:49:45,380 dinosaurs. 8684 03:49:50,000 --> 03:49:53,820 On behalf of Gamer Central. 8685 03:49:54,160 --> 03:49:54,540 Thanks. 8686 03:49:54,720 --> 03:49:55,660 It's a team effort. 8687 03:49:56,000 --> 03:49:57,660 I must have played them all. 8688 03:49:57,880 --> 03:49:58,680 Too many words. 8689 03:49:58,680 --> 03:50:00,040 I ain't seen nothing like... 8690 03:50:00,040 --> 03:50:00,880 Gamer Central. 8691 03:50:00,880 --> 03:50:03,220 In any amusement park. 8692 03:50:03,760 --> 03:50:04,800 Coming up next. 8693 03:50:04,920 --> 03:50:06,340 The Webby Award for the best 8694 03:50:06,340 --> 03:50:07,480 health website. 8695 03:50:07,580 --> 03:50:08,850 It's so sad when you hear Stu 8696 03:50:08,850 --> 03:50:10,120 on the interstitials. 8697 03:50:10,220 --> 03:50:11,120 And he's just not there. 8698 03:50:14,720 --> 03:50:16,220 The next category is health. 8699 03:50:16,360 --> 03:50:17,420 And I try to stay healthy 8700 03:50:17,420 --> 03:50:18,020 myself. 8701 03:50:18,120 --> 03:50:19,020 I'm trying to quit smoking. 8702 03:50:19,220 --> 03:50:20,240 Which is being made easier. 8703 03:50:20,320 --> 03:50:21,450 Being that you can't smoke 8704 03:50:21,450 --> 03:50:22,480 anywhere anymore. 8705 03:50:23,220 --> 03:50:24,580 They used to be smoking. 8706 03:50:25,100 --> 03:50:27,260 They don't clap, you cowards. 8707 03:50:29,340 --> 03:50:29,770 I feel bad for people who've 8708 03:50:29,770 --> 03:50:32,160 never been addicted to anything. 8709 03:50:32,280 --> 03:50:33,080 They're the real losers. 8710 03:50:37,960 --> 03:50:36,450 Because they just don't know 8711 03:50:36,450 --> 03:50:39,880 what it's like to really want 8712 03:50:39,880 --> 03:50:41,600 something. 8713 03:50:43,180 --> 03:50:44,320 And get it. 8714 03:50:44,620 --> 03:50:47,080 Again and again and again. 8715 03:50:47,480 --> 03:50:49,010 Until they're sick and have to 8716 03:50:49,010 --> 03:50:49,580 stop. 8717 03:50:51,640 --> 03:50:52,640 That's passion. 8718 03:50:52,640 --> 03:50:55,440 No, but I was at the airport. 8719 03:50:55,540 --> 03:50:56,190 The answer is smoking section 8720 03:50:56,190 --> 03:50:56,680 at the airport. 8721 03:50:56,680 --> 03:50:56,800 Come on, man. 8722 03:50:56,900 --> 03:50:58,420 It's time to cut to the fucking 8723 03:50:58,420 --> 03:50:59,080 nominees. 8724 03:50:59,300 --> 03:50:59,480 Right? 8725 03:50:59,560 --> 03:50:59,920 No more. 8726 03:51:00,240 --> 03:51:01,530 They now have these glass-encased 8727 03:51:01,530 --> 03:51:02,040 rooms. 8728 03:51:03,000 --> 03:51:04,020 You're not just a smoker. 8729 03:51:04,260 --> 03:51:05,240 You're an example to other 8730 03:51:05,240 --> 03:51:05,780 people. 8731 03:51:07,200 --> 03:51:07,560 You're an exhibit at a 8732 03:51:07,560 --> 03:51:09,180 futuristic zoo. 8733 03:51:09,320 --> 03:51:11,480 You're in the nicotine terrarium. 8734 03:51:12,540 --> 03:51:13,020 There ought to be a sign out 8735 03:51:13,020 --> 03:51:13,960 front that says, 8736 03:51:14,020 --> 03:51:15,030 The Attic and its natural 8737 03:51:15,030 --> 03:51:15,720 environment. 8738 03:51:17,120 --> 03:51:17,740 Parents are walking by with 8739 03:51:17,740 --> 03:51:19,140 children, pointing. 8740 03:51:19,360 --> 03:51:20,280 Look in there, honey. 8741 03:51:21,180 --> 03:51:22,280 Isn't that sad? 8742 03:51:22,280 --> 03:51:23,580 Those are smokers. 8743 03:51:24,380 --> 03:51:25,680 And I'm in there going... 8744 03:51:25,680 --> 03:51:30,640 Stop running, honey. 8745 03:51:30,720 --> 03:51:31,500 You're teasing them. 8746 03:51:31,620 --> 03:51:32,480 Stop running. 8747 03:51:40,480 --> 03:51:41,480 I'll take it. 8748 03:51:41,480 --> 03:51:42,380 A lot of smokers in the 8749 03:51:42,380 --> 03:51:43,720 audience, I think, maybe. 8750 03:51:43,720 --> 03:51:45,880 And now the health nominees are... 8751 03:51:46,580 --> 03:51:47,260 Bam! 8752 03:51:55,260 --> 03:51:55,780 IntelliHealth. 8753 03:51:59,880 --> 03:52:00,740 Intelligent Health. 8754 03:52:02,060 --> 03:52:03,100 Wait, I was reading that. 8755 03:52:03,360 --> 03:52:03,940 Mayo Clinic. 8756 03:52:03,940 --> 03:52:05,500 Well done to whoever said Mayo 8757 03:52:05,500 --> 03:52:06,120 Clinic. 8758 03:52:06,280 --> 03:52:07,800 Somebody mentioned Mayo Clinic. 8759 03:52:08,600 --> 03:52:09,680 Nothing to do with Mayo. 8760 03:52:12,220 --> 03:52:13,540 Mediconsult.com. 8761 03:52:20,040 --> 03:52:20,880 On health. 8762 03:52:21,400 --> 03:52:23,440 When fungus gets a toehold. 8763 03:52:24,440 --> 03:52:24,720 No? 8764 03:52:25,080 --> 03:52:25,240 Yeah? 8765 03:52:29,240 --> 03:52:35,420 online.com and the 1999 webby 8766 03:52:35,420 --> 03:52:40,010 for the category of health goes 8767 03:52:40,010 --> 03:52:42,200 to telehealth 8768 03:52:42,200 --> 03:52:44,640 yeah congratulations people who 8769 03:52:44,640 --> 03:52:46,640 have problems or if they're 8770 03:52:46,640 --> 03:52:47,900 healthy and they 8771 03:52:47,900 --> 03:52:49,290 want to learn about problems 8772 03:52:49,290 --> 03:52:50,680 that other people might have 8773 03:52:50,680 --> 03:52:51,740 come to the site look 8774 03:52:51,740 --> 03:52:53,370 up information and can find in 8775 03:52:53,370 --> 03:52:54,960 problems that other people I 8776 03:52:54,960 --> 03:52:56,120 wonder what problem 8777 03:52:56,120 --> 03:52:57,730 might have come to the site I 8778 03:52:57,730 --> 03:52:59,270 can't see because when I zoom 8779 03:52:59,270 --> 03:53:00,380 in there there's a 8780 03:53:00,380 --> 03:53:02,470 title strand over picture man 8781 03:53:02,470 --> 03:53:04,490 had a condition with his face 8782 03:53:04,490 --> 03:53:08,960 there it made a bulbous jowl or 8783 03:53:08,960 --> 03:53:09,980 if they're 8784 03:53:09,980 --> 03:53:11,230 healthy and they want to learn 8785 03:53:11,230 --> 03:53:12,330 about problems that other 8786 03:53:12,330 --> 03:53:13,590 people might have come to the 8787 03:53:13,590 --> 03:53:14,660 site look up 8788 03:53:14,660 --> 03:53:16,830 information and can find in our 8789 03:53:16,830 --> 03:53:18,250 two million pages of 8790 03:53:18,250 --> 03:53:20,380 information trusted but and 8791 03:53:20,380 --> 03:53:21,860 developed with Johns 8792 03:53:21,860 --> 03:53:23,880 Hopkins all the information 8793 03:53:23,880 --> 03:53:26,120 they want to find Johns Hopkins 8794 03:53:26,120 --> 03:53:29,050 when you kiss me fever when you 8795 03:53:29,050 --> 03:53:30,380 hold me tight 8796 03:53:30,380 --> 03:53:34,160 fever in the morning 8797 03:53:34,160 --> 03:53:36,950 in telehealth like an EKG with 8798 03:53:36,950 --> 03:53:37,880 attitude 8799 03:53:37,880 --> 03:53:42,140 here's your health 8800 03:53:42,140 --> 03:53:50,140 we're nearly at the end that 8801 03:53:50,140 --> 03:53:53,530 the beatings will be will soon 8802 03:53:53,530 --> 03:53:56,260 cease is a humor and we have no 8803 03:53:56,260 --> 03:53:56,720 joke for 8804 03:53:56,720 --> 03:54:00,970 that. And now the nominees for 8805 03:54:00,970 --> 03:54:13,340 humor are... Berserk. Red Meat. 8806 03:54:13,340 --> 03:54:21,920 I don't want to visit any of 8807 03:54:21,920 --> 03:54:23,480 these now. I'd say the domains 8808 03:54:23,480 --> 03:54:24,980 have been changed and bought up 8809 03:54:24,980 --> 03:54:26,080 by other people. 8810 03:54:26,720 --> 03:54:30,540 Definitely not. Definitely not 8811 03:54:30,540 --> 03:54:34,530 going to risk that one. See if 8812 03:54:34,530 --> 03:54:38,970 that one's still going. They'll 8813 03:54:38,970 --> 03:54:43,570 win it. They won the one before. 8814 03:54:43,570 --> 03:54:48,930 I like that one. The 1999 Webby 8815 03:54:48,930 --> 03:54:55,440 Award for humor goes to... Suck.com. 8816 03:54:55,440 --> 03:54:57,440 Yeah! The Onion! We're 8817 03:54:57,440 --> 03:54:59,220 basically a satire of news 8818 03:54:59,220 --> 03:55:01,500 publications and journalism. 8819 03:55:01,500 --> 03:55:03,380 And our format parodies USA 8820 03:55:03,380 --> 03:55:05,700 Today style journalism. Yeah, 8821 03:55:05,700 --> 03:55:07,230 we've seen you. We've seen you 8822 03:55:07,230 --> 03:55:08,080 the last day. 8823 03:55:08,080 --> 03:55:12,730 Thank you very, very much. Oh, 8824 03:55:12,730 --> 03:55:18,040 yeah. Congratulations. Probably 8825 03:55:18,040 --> 03:55:20,720 the best speech. 8826 03:55:20,720 --> 03:55:23,870 And the next category is living. 8827 03:55:23,870 --> 03:55:27,010 No joke. Because it's important 8828 03:55:27,010 --> 03:55:30,060 stuff. And now the nominees for 8829 03:55:30,060 --> 03:55:33,360 the living category are... 8830 03:55:33,360 --> 03:55:44,540 baby center get on down to baby 8831 03:55:44,540 --> 03:55:45,520 center 8832 03:55:45,520 --> 03:55:50,160 epicurious 8833 03:55:50,160 --> 03:55:56,110 these are boring ones man 8834 03:55:56,110 --> 03:55:57,320 fucking epicurious 8835 03:55:57,320 --> 03:55:59,670 garden.com same shit from the 8836 03:55:59,670 --> 03:56:01,580 last year's one they're not 8837 03:56:01,580 --> 03:56:03,250 the yuckiest site on the 8838 03:56:03,250 --> 03:56:06,590 internet and the 1999 webby 8839 03:56:06,590 --> 03:56:08,940 award for living goes to 8840 03:56:08,940 --> 03:56:10,960 bring it all probably baby 8841 03:56:10,960 --> 03:56:12,460 center baby center 8842 03:56:12,460 --> 03:56:16,340 yeah 8843 03:56:16,340 --> 03:56:20,140 when we want to kiss we kiss 8844 03:56:20,140 --> 03:56:23,260 with a little petting 8845 03:56:23,260 --> 03:56:25,300 kasava children of kasava 8846 03:56:25,300 --> 03:56:32,660 when we want to work we work 8847 03:56:32,660 --> 03:56:36,660 when we want to play we play 8848 03:56:36,660 --> 03:56:38,260 look at this guy 8849 03:56:38,260 --> 03:56:42,980 thanks mom and dad 8850 03:56:42,980 --> 03:56:45,380 fuck off 8851 03:56:45,380 --> 03:56:46,580 for you next week. 8852 03:56:47,000 --> 03:56:48,020 I'm Stuart Shaffey 8853 03:56:48,020 --> 03:56:48,800 at the Herbst Theatre 8854 03:56:48,800 --> 03:56:49,720 in San Francisco. 8855 03:56:50,040 --> 03:56:50,820 And there we have it. 8856 03:56:50,920 --> 03:56:51,980 Join us again next time 8857 03:56:51,980 --> 03:56:52,100 at the Net Cafe. 8858 03:56:52,100 --> 03:56:53,260 That was the Webby Awards. 8859 03:56:53,540 --> 03:56:55,500 What a fantastic show that was. 8860 03:56:55,500 --> 03:56:56,260 The Net Cafe is made possible 8861 03:56:56,260 --> 03:56:56,780 in part by... 8862 03:56:56,780 --> 03:56:57,460 Beautiful stuff. 8863 03:56:58,280 --> 03:56:59,840 Standout moment, of course. 8864 03:57:00,460 --> 03:57:02,360 A young Vladimir... 8865 03:57:02,360 --> 03:57:03,980 Vladimir... 8866 03:57:04,820 --> 03:57:06,740 Putin, or I was going to say... 8867 03:57:06,740 --> 03:57:08,080 Oh, actually, this book here. 8868 03:57:08,700 --> 03:57:09,580 Fucking nutter. 8869 03:57:11,500 --> 03:57:12,560 Absolute dickhead. 8870 03:57:14,700 --> 03:57:15,260 Boom. 8871 03:57:16,260 --> 03:57:16,820 Scuffle. 8872 03:57:18,300 --> 03:57:20,160 What an arsehole. 8873 03:57:21,980 --> 03:57:24,040 And his wife is no better 8874 03:57:24,040 --> 03:57:25,460 for letting him carry on like 8875 03:57:25,460 --> 03:57:26,260 that as well. 8876 03:57:26,800 --> 03:57:28,270 Wearing the Tipperary shirt 8877 03:57:28,270 --> 03:57:28,920 here. 8878 03:57:29,240 --> 03:57:30,580 She just fucking lets him... 8879 03:57:30,580 --> 03:57:32,110 She lets him get away with 8880 03:57:32,110 --> 03:57:32,800 murder. 8881 03:57:36,680 --> 03:57:39,540 Ugly commercial, son of... 8882 03:57:39,540 --> 03:57:41,320 Yes, that's the spirit. 8883 03:57:42,780 --> 03:57:44,120 That was that one, 8884 03:57:44,120 --> 03:57:45,180 but again, 8885 03:57:45,520 --> 03:57:49,180 standout moment was... 8886 03:57:49,180 --> 03:57:49,900 For the Digerati... 8887 03:57:49,900 --> 03:57:50,740 Doring press... 8888 03:57:50,740 --> 03:57:52,300 The Digerati themselves. 8889 03:57:52,620 --> 03:57:53,520 Unless that was Jane. 8890 03:57:53,660 --> 03:57:54,220 Someone was on... 8891 03:57:54,220 --> 03:57:55,120 Look at him there, look. 8892 03:57:59,900 --> 03:58:00,420 Outfits. 8893 03:58:00,900 --> 03:58:01,580 Maybe... 8894 03:58:01,580 --> 03:58:02,840 That was Jane. 8895 03:58:02,840 --> 03:58:02,860 That was Jane. 8896 03:58:02,860 --> 03:58:04,020 Someone was saying Jane Withers 8897 03:58:04,020 --> 03:58:04,520 was there. 8898 03:58:04,520 --> 03:58:05,820 No, that's not her. 8899 03:58:05,960 --> 03:58:07,440 And weird outfits. 8900 03:58:07,780 --> 03:58:08,580 That's not her. 8901 03:58:12,160 --> 03:58:12,680 And... 8902 03:58:12,680 --> 03:58:14,160 Fits. 8903 03:58:14,900 --> 03:58:16,290 Yeah, we'll talk to you later 8904 03:58:16,290 --> 03:58:16,840 anyway. 8905 03:58:16,960 --> 03:58:18,560 Thanks very much for joining us 8906 03:58:18,560 --> 03:58:19,460 on this... 8907 03:58:19,460 --> 03:58:21,460 Situation edition... 8908 03:58:22,460 --> 03:58:23,460 Of the young... 8909 03:58:23,460 --> 03:58:25,720 Vladimir Putin chronicles. 8910 03:58:26,580 --> 03:58:27,680 Good evening. 8911 03:58:27,820 --> 03:58:28,540 Good afternoon. 8912 03:58:28,820 --> 03:58:29,820 And we'll talk to you later on. 8913 03:58:29,940 --> 03:58:31,020 Gird your loins. 8914 03:58:31,140 --> 03:58:31,840 Thank you very much. 8915 03:58:32,480 --> 03:58:33,220 We'll see you later. 8916 03:58:35,220 --> 03:58:35,960 Bye-bye. 8917 03:58:35,960 --> 03:58:55,860 Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck. 8918 03:58:55,860 --> 03:59:08,740 Yuck, yuck, yuck. 8919 03:59:08,740 --> 03:59:38,720 Thank you.